How Gay Was Abraham Lincoln?

[@philosofried710]

Comment for Mary Todd. Like for Hairy Bod.

[@kiayaraa]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee mary todd

[@philosofried710]

@RedRide TEDDY Why so mad, my dude? Sending good vibes back.

[@krishlama6167]

@@philosofried710 don’t mind him, keep up the great work my dude

[@krishlama6167]

@RedRide TEDDY how so?

[@sidtheshuckle]

I’m bi but I don’t like hair so imma unfortunately have to go with Mary Todd

[@Remsaxillas]

Men in 1800s: we will protect the father land! Men in 2020: how gay was a president from almost 200 years ago

[@arinanamjin2622]

@jeebla keebla respect and strong, non-toxic masculinity makes a man, not whether you wear skirts or pants

[@gibbonbasher8171]

@jeebla keebla This video is also a stretch.

[@nobody9858]

@@arinanamjin2622 says the girl who's not a man, man who acts like a man with toxic masculinity makes a man, men who got no toxic masculinity are coward, you know nothing about anything you say

[@sillywetrat]

Lol

[@LucianCorrvinus]

'Fatherland'....oooooo bad referencing....

[@tuwuesday]

I love how historians (and people in general) seem to forget that bisexuality exists ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@philosofried710]

Good point.

[@Toodyslexicforyou]

They where just best friends

[@kevinmorgan8534]

@@philosofried710 It's called Bi - erasure.

[@LetsGoUSA]

Sleeping together in a bed for 4 years!!! 😮😮😮​@@Toodyslexicforyou

[@that1joe929]

No you people just gotta try to call everything gay.😂

[@babyseal8822]

This is the reason why he refuse for eternal life from his vampire friend so that he dont need to see this

[@philosofried710]

Shhh... you'll ruin his secret.

[@tessa2157]

For some reason I wanna put my homophonic teacher on the spot and ask if Lincoln is gay

[@philosofried710]

Do ittttttttt

[@jyellowhammer]

Do it!

[@kiayaraa]

good vid i was wondering this for a while

[@LetsGoUSA]

Gay

[@RoseUnseen]

Now if you excuse me imma look up daddy Lincoln get topped by a streak of lavender

[@jessemorris744]

Find anything?

[@Mr_Valentin.]

5:24 this is irrelevant, abviously Gay men can love women too

[@Mr_Valentin.]

@Lexis Kaser by love a woman I didn't mean sexualy, like... A gay man can love his mum ya know... Or if a gay man's bestie whom is a girl dies and that gay man falls in a state of depression, does not mean he's bisexual nor straight, also in the old day the concept of homosexuality is different from what modern western Society believes, in some ideologies today believe that a homosexual is the submissive gay person not the dominant one, same in the old days in western Society i don't have many proofs nor examples but am sure in the viking era the Scadanavians have a curse word for a submissive gay man, and it was considered manly so dominate a man in a sexual intercourse, again this idea is still alive in many societies.

[@BulletZoid]

@@Mr_Valentin. oh dang.

[@voiceofreason2691]

As *friends* , right?

[@philosofried710]

True.

[@LucianCorrvinus]

@@Mr_Valentin. Dear Heart...sexuality and attraction are a spectrum of fluidity...yes a Gay man who is attracted to men find a woman he also has the hots for...you think it's all "ewwwwwww"? And it's purely Western or Roman belief that you aren't gay if you are the "pitcher" but not the 'catcher' goes all Ng with thier opinion on the sexes. And the amchient Nordic tribes had a very fluid non biased and judgement free view on sexuality and who does what to whom...and they aren't alone or an unusual case....and lemmie finish with this...I know some extremely masculine gay men that prefer and love being the 'catcher' and don't feell it affects thier masculinity at all...I should I sleep with enough of them...

[@mushroomwriter]

my history teacher said lincoln was the first president to have a beard 😉 and i started laughing really hard

[@leokneedus]

Lincoln definitely would've been sus by today's standards but way back when the friendships between men were highly treasured.

[@philosofried710]

Good point

[@LetsGoUSA]

SLEEPING IN THE BED WITH ANOTHER MAN FOR FOUR YEARS IS GAY.. AND YOU KNOW IT!

[@Treymaxx]

I think he is bi

[@34r343]

No he is not

[@hollierose8500]

mr so in so did you know him personally?

[@gibbonbasher8171]

@@hollierose8500 Abraham Lincoln had a wife. So he was at the very least straight. Do you know him personally? Did he ever tell you that he had a fondness for men as well? You have the stupidest line of reasoning, ever.

[@pheonic3665]

@@gibbonbasher8171 Are you stupid? So many gay people had and still have wifes to hide the fact that they were gay

[@Actualbowlofsoup]

@@gibbonbasher8171 i don't know if he was gay or anything but... you can still be bi and marry a woman bisexuality is bring attracted to men and women

[@Sicksmiley_]

I pray for any teacher who accidentally put this on

[@philosofried710]

Proper education.

[@Kajiukiller]

I can't tell if this is a joke or a real investigation.

[@LoopsXP]

Definitely real

[@Kajiukiller]

No I think its a joke

[@gibbonbasher8171]

@@LoopsXP I was hoping it was a joke. I’m not surprised that there is a cult of people that believe in this nonsense.

[@pheonic3665]

@@gibbonbasher8171 Why does the question sound that ridiculous to you ?

[@gibbonbasher8171]

@@pheonic3665 Because the “evidence” of Lincoln being gay thus far brought forth is just rumors and hearsay.

[@j.j.hector735]

I mean He kissed Gandhi

[@internetpapaya1454]

Lol

[@philosofried710]

Checkmate.

[@cardboardheadguy7814]

I see your a man of culture

[@crimony3054]

Sharing a bed with another man for warmth implies that you both have your shoes and overcoats on. So Lincoln has about four summers to explain.

[@LetsGoUSA]

that was just one guy for 4 years

[@robertn800]

Not unusual for 2 men too share bed...but unusual to do so for FOUR YEARS is, 🙀 especially since Lincoln, soon a practicing lawyer could afford his own room & his own bed ! Even when President, a White House maid discussed how Lincoln shared his bed with handsome men (when Mary Todd was away) In almost all his letters to Joshua Speed, he ended “Yours, Forever, Lincoln” something he never used with anyone else- including His Wife. 💜 Lavender ? How about the whole Rainbow. 🏳️‍🌈

[@philosofried710]

🌈

[@h-tinetowing2042]

A whole queen”” damn history is amazing

[@tuwuesday]

Back in the day, the color and word lavender was used to allude to homosexuality :)

[@tuwuesday]

@𝐒𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐢𝐠𝐧 𝐀𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐜𝐬 Us talking about Lincoln possibly being gay is us seeking out the truth. He doesn't have to be gay. He could've been straight, but if he had been gay, that means that the US had a gay president long before it would've been socially acceptable. As queer people, it's always going to be exciting to learn that an important historical figure was like us, and we're going to talk about it. When some important historical figure is being talked about, usually they're straight and cisgender, which is the norm, so mentioning that Benjamin Franklin slept around with a bunch of women probably doesn't seem like we're getting too much into his personal life. But to you, talking about how Abraham Lincoln might've slept with men and other women besides Mary Todd is getting too personal. We're not asking for or discussing graphic details, just wondering if he did in fact sleep with other men and women, because if he did, the implication would be that a gay or bi president freed the enslaved people. Of course we wanna acknowledge him as part of the community if he was queer, because he changed the course of American history forever, and brought us out of the dark ages

[@tuwuesday]

@𝐒𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐢𝐠𝐧 𝐀𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐜𝐬 I didn't say he freed enslaved people because he might've been gay or bi, just that if he were gay or bi, then the LGBTQ+ community has yet another hero who changed the course of history forever. If he were straight, then we can't claim him as a queer hero, but regardless, he still freed enslaved people. His sexuality obviously wasn't a factor in his decision and to misconstrue what I said shows that you didn't understand what I said

[@kurtsupreme]

Until Society starts accepting sexuality on a spectrum instead of just heterosexual or homosexual orientations, it will continue to be difficult for people to understand the complicated concept of human sexuality.

[@jtinalexandria]

They say sharing beds was common for men in the 19th century... Then why is it we only hear of this in the context of Abraham Lincoln? Were any other presidents or famous men confirmed to have done it?

[@aeholmstrom]

John Adams wrote in his diary about a time he shared a bed with Benjamin Franklin and they argued about whether to leave the window open or not.

[@Nitaka12]

Subscribed for how well done this video is.

[@gibbonbasher8171]

That's funny.

[@philosofried710]

Thanks :)

[@gibbonbasher8171]

@@philosofried710 You sure do like distorting history.

[@TheJimBobgaming]

That fuckin sucks !

[@dasun13]

Same here.. shit was hilariously brilliant 👏🏽

[@Girish_Rao]

The question is...... Who cares whether he was gay or straight?

[@philosofried710]

Solid point my dude

[@LetsGoUSA]

Oh you care!!! You just don't want to look down and shame but you care!!

[@NovaProspekt19]

You cared enough to comment

[@robbienl8176]

Gay means happy right? Maybe he was a happy president.

[@philosofried710]

Idk... he was prone to melancholy...

[@robbienl8176]

@@philosofried710 not an easy thing to have.

[@LetsGoUSA]

Gayness

[@alankent]

What is wrong with mustard on a hot dog? That is the obvious condiment for a variation on a sausage.

[@TheHippoBLT]

Another great vid! The quality is rlly astounding, keep it up you will become big.

[@philosofried710]

Thank you!!

[@GtBaeigh]

^ 🤙👍🤘

[@jac4020]

Taft didn't get stuck, but he did order/install his own tub.

[@philosofried710]

Still a legend though, no doubt.

[@redjirachi1]

Hopefully we had an LGBT president who isn't James Buchanan. You don't want to use the worst president ever as an example

[@gibbonbasher8171]

Hopefully, you’ll realize you can’t just assign a sexuality to someone who is acclaimed for being a good leader.

[@LucianCorrvinus]

You want Queer leaders to admire? Von Stubing, Hadrian, Zappatta, Harvey Milk... the whole Sacred band of Thebes....admitted and certified Queer...you're welcome...

[@LucianCorrvinus]

@@gibbonbasher8171 why not don't we do things like that to each.of us...we believe what we know, some even will deny what they are.told and go by thier opinion and feeling over the truth given them, about anything and everything of a person or people...it's called prejudice...

[@gibbonbasher8171]

@@LucianCorrvinus We know for a fact that Lincoln wasn't gay. He had a wife. No proof to the contrary. Stop living a fantasy.

[@KobraAssassin]

I only know this because the simpsons made a lot of jokes about it

[@philosofried710]

The Simpsons always do it first...

[@gibbonbasher8171]

Know what? Abe was straight.

[@Baslium]

We have multiple record of him being with different men but he only be with one women. He presfered in bed with his male bodyguard even though his wife was sleeping in next door.

[@mobigsly9595]

I bet the Lincoln log explored all possibilities

[@Cruz-ep3jv]

HE WASNT GAY

[@philosofried710]

So you're saying there's a chance?

[@camadams9149]

2:30 I disagree with the assumption of heterosexuality. Any man can marry a woman. Children use to be an economic necessity. Ancient Greece was a perfect example. As long as you had a wife and kids, your duty was fulfilled, and you could smash any guy you wanted on the side 4:30 Sleeping in the same bed as a man do to accommodation reasons, sure, for a short period of time that don't sound gay. Sleeping with a man for 4 years, that's gay. "They were roommates" or "they were close friends" is a meme at this point 6:20 Now there is a gay poem How to uncover gay subtext: Mentally switch one of the men for a woman. Is the situation now romantic or sexual? If yes, you've got a gay

[@philosofried710]

He was a poet, no doubt.

[@tanyajantz6376]

Not that hard to build another bed back then 🤣🤣🤣

[@Orphen42O]

In the 20th century, people tended to suspect that men who did not marry were gay. In previous eras, people were far less judgmental about "confirmed bachelors".

[@anthonytroisi6682]

@@Orphen42O In the past, many men who never married were actually in heterosexual relationships with women who were not considered "suitable" as a wife. If a "gentlemen" feel in love with an actress, a divorcee, a married woman or a woman of a different race or religion, he could not marry her and maintain his social standing. Often men maintained long-term relationships with women they felt they could not acknowledge. The men's bachelor status did not mean they had no interest in women.

[@angeloc.6550]

Had to stop this video due to the author sounding like a teenage girls exclaiming “GAAAY!” You lose in your attempt to justify an argument when you begin sounding like an extra from Mean Girls. Next.

[@philosofried710]

A little tongue in cheek my friend, but thanks for watching what you did. Take care! :)

[@LucianCorrvinus]

He didn't sound like steam escaping a radiator pipe...did he?...he didn't even say 'Mary please' once....it was s elf depreciation, and if you got so uncomfortable you dumped the whole video because of it, you might want to ask yourself why.....

[@MichaelDespairs]

The teeth meme visuals... is everyone perpetually mentally 9 years old in the future?

[@vincegarza6302]

The last name Hancock originated from somewhere

[@philosofried710]

From the Will Smith movie I believe.

[@rowenfox5545]

I think he was pan or bi honestly

[@Xosidhe]

Historians: Oh my god, they were roommates.

[@pagaldo9642]

He introduced the 3 dollar bill if I’m not mistaken

[@cade8986]

This video/channel is way too god to have this many subs

[@philosofried710]

Thank you. I hope it grows

[@kyrstenlindblad8432]

This video is actually so fucking good

[@lan2941]

i n t e r e s t i n g

[@gibbonbasher8171]

Interestingly false.

[@bonelessvegetal818]

hes straight because he didnt own another man

[@mobigsly9595]

Lol.. I love how you put Pete Butt..igieg in the video

[@glitchyrhythm6749]

Since this video released the Pentagon has declassified there was CIA involvement in the JFK assassination.

[@julietbihary9811]

He scored 4 times with guys he called daddy er... father his four fathers😂

[@charanjitbansal7443]

... *YES*

[@gibbonbasher8171]

Nope!

[@brownsugawithouttabag]

No

[@novatheredwitch1573]

Possible

[@MrKirby365]

I don't know why people so easily erase bi people. My husband is bisexual.... He has gay sex 7 days a week with me, and we're in a monogamous relationship... However he still bi.

[@edlutz7218]

Was Andrew hos Big Johnso n ?

[@Jeff-ff8lg]

Lincoln was never poor and he never wanted for a bed. So why pray tell would he share a bed with any man. And why would he rather sleep with Joshua speed rather than his wife Mary Todd? 🤔

[@LucianCorrvinus]

Intimacy be and s ex can be be separate things....in fact I'm many cultures today and in our past men and women had strong partnerships with thier own sexes over thier opposite, because women lived in one world and men in another....

[@superdude899]

No

[@philosofried710]

So you're saying there's a chance

[@superdude899]

@@philosofried710 There's a better chance of my soccer ball becoming sentient and nuking England.

[@bebbz72]

I'm gay but what

[@philosofried710]

How gay?

[@bebbz72]

@@philosofried710 gay enough to click on this video, and be intrigued by the other president

[@gibbonbasher8171]

@@bebbz72 Who is not gay.

[@bebbz72]

@@gibbonbasher8171 wat

[@gibbonbasher8171]

@@bebbz72 Abe wasn’t gay.

[@mannygutierrez7654]

This president's vice... Was a Vice president 😅😂😅😂😅 Ahhhh 😅

[@tonycooper4437]

Great video

[@gibbonbasher8171]

Terrible*

[@MrKirby365]

Yeah this whole video almost feels like bisexuality doesn't exist or isnt an option. I can't imagine what that is like because I have been gay my entire life. But how should he mustn't feel to be outright Disregarded... To be told that you don't exist

[@tracer2002]

First the alphabets took the rainbow now they after Abe

[@clf8668]

This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard Abraham Lincoln was not gay stop it

[@Actualbowlofsoup]

Huh Never thought to see this in my information

[@philosofried710]

2021, yo.

[@BoogDude14]

Well.... Gaybraham Lincoln...

[@philosofried710]

How did I miss that one...

[@hunter_lite]

maybe either/or isn't the best perspective here

[@Rottenkirsche13]

Who cares if he’s got the big gay lol he probably was people always freaking out about Lincoln being straight or not

[@LambentOrt]

Perhaps he was just an opportunist.

[@jamesbassett1484]

We need to fae the reality thaat everyone who is or ever was famous iss/was gay (eye roll).

[@BoundInChains]

Franklin was not a president? 😱🤣

[@philosofried710]

Nope, but he was a player.

[@JohnWilliams-tt3yi]

What's life without love,, I'm 40 single gay,, you?????,.

[@philosofried710]

I’d like a McDouble and a large cola

[@carojung189]

Bisexual?

[@philosofried710]

Definitely possible. Wish I would've discussed that option more.

[@itsQuiffer]

Abraham Lincoln was hot

[@philosofried710]

HAWT.

[@emperorpalpatine2531]

I’m pretty sure I heard a rumor about LBJ or JFK having homosexual affairs

[@philosofried710]

Rumors spread even to galaxies far far away.

[@Markkiisi]

How the *fuck* did I end up here

[@philosofried710]

The internet.

[@brandongiorlando6284]

All you had to say about Obama is a suit and mustard. Hard to take you serious after that…

[@philosofried710]

I think that’s the point of the joke my dude

[@brandongiorlando6284]

@@philosofried710 Could have at least treated him in the same vain you did the rest.

[@jyellowhammer]

Gay is gay whether bi or just a little bit!

[@jerimiahpatterson5383]

He was not gay he was straight get your facts right people

[@gibbonbasher8171]

The people here in the comments aren’t exactly fans of facts. They twist history at their leisure because they want to claim historical figures for the LGBT community.

[@fruitybnnuy]

@@gibbonbasher8171 true, I love gay people so much and want every historical figure to be gay, in order to build my gay army

[@philosofried710]

So you're saying there's a chance.

[@itsQuiffer]

Maybe he was bi, get over it

[@philosofried710]

I'm like so over it, it's like whateverrrrrr

[@tanyajantz6376]

Watch the Book of Queer on discovery plus.. episode Gay to Z

[@sirmungus7113]

He was a total flamer

[@philosofried710]

Deep.

[@gibbonbasher8171]

Ahem, he wasn't.

[@alexsch2514]

He was VERY gay. Or AT LEAST bi.

[@gibbonbasher8171]

@@alexsch2514 Keep dreaming, buddy. Ridiculous conspiracy theories like these fall in the same category as the Flat Earth “theory.”

[@alexsch2514]

@@gibbonbasher8171 the flat earth is something that goes aga science. We know that gay people exist. And statistically it's likely that one closeted gay person must have been president. Why not Lincoln?

[@gibbonbasher8171]

@@alexsch2514 Because the “proof” of him being gay is just a book laden with hearsay and not a shred of tangible evidence.

[@novatheredwitch1573]

The video didn't confirm that he was gay. It's just meant as a result of entertainment while educating that there are people, either they know it or not, that yes homosexuality exists in history. It's just not well understood at the time and everyone now is trying to find out the same as any other journalistic research in the history profession.

[@seanmckeownyoung]

Teddy Roosevelt, Proto-Cub 😉

[@philosofried710]

Ayyyyyyyyyyy :)

[@iamsuperfritz]

Bisexuality also exists.

[@tescovnts3575]

Chille

[@philosofried710]

Oh.

[@ScottWhitfield-y3o]

Americas first Dl 😮😮😮😮

[@Random51960]

Not gay at all

[@ericstevendennis3206]

Does anyone really think that Franklin was president?

[@aymansyrisk]

Robert E. Lee

[@hb2495]

what

[@gibbonbasher8171]

@@hb2495 Robert E. Lee

[@novatheredwitch1573]

What about him?

[@philosofried710]

Great conversation... solid dialogue here... :)

[@martinz626]

Funny how you defended the gayest of them all obama 🤣

[@philosofried710]

Deep.

[@LetsGoUSA]

@@martinz626 hhhmmmm did Obama sleep with another grown man for 4 years in the same bed??

[@tiosam7764]

🇺🇸

[@jamesbomb5658]

who asked

[@philosofried710]

The garlic asked, since you're wondering, onion.

[@markelcoleman2418]

I think they need too make a movie about Abraham Lincoln married life with his side lovers okay let do this the real life of him okay 💜♎️😇🌎

[@ariesatrio3119]

Hear me out! He wasn’t 😐

[@MrSpartan117]

Bro failed history class💀💀💀

[@davidwheeler3451]

Does it matter? Who really cares?

[@ThepupsnameisBrian]

Oh my God who fucking cares?

[@davidwheeler3451]

Does it matter? Who cares?

[@thisismyname3928]

🤮🤮🤮

[@jackiecurl6171]

Well I mean yes. He was a homosexual and he had other mental illnesses besides that

[@berniecasey7592]

When your famous everyone tries so hard to spread lies about you - this is Garbage

[@AdlerFollhit]

Smh bruh🤦‍♀️

[@Wind-oh-Wishp]

Bisexuality is also a thing.

[@user-yp7be3vz2e]

I would have been sweet on his friend