How good are small Floor Modellers? Mooer vs. Hotone

[@Seraphial]

"Do I really need that many amp models?" he says, in front of 16 amp heads.

[@fritsvanzanten3573]

An abacus won't hurt

[@sansocie]

More is more!

[@soundtrue6560]

hy love your video about the fender new amp and i was agree with you for the pedal compatibility but i see the "in the blueus" video about the same fender and i sound it was sound bettter! how can you explain the différence between you and him? he use the other in of the amp!!! or maybe because he use more "blues" overdrive? thanks!!!!

[@slash7741]

yeah, he doesn't need too many amps in the the modeler if they don't sound good, 10 great sounding amps is better. Amp heads, they are original.

[@tperry5839]

Seraphial 😂🤣🤣right

[@Martyballin]

The back half of this video is perfection, in terms of just showing the gear and quickly cycling through various sounds and use cases. No wasted time, no talking, just doing exactly what a user would do out of the box. Thank you! Purple James was probably the best sound I heard from any of them.

[@philf4086]

I like your approach - "this isn't a which one is better video". Just a show of the features will lead us to figure out which one we need.

[@dougb256]

Hi Henning - you can use the rotary encoder on the Ampero to flip thru amps, cabs, etc. Click on the list of amps so that it’s highlighted, then push down on the rotary encoder (knob). You can now turn it to quickly go thru the list.

[@jfrankcarr]

The main thing to me when it comes to these multi-effects units is their ability to load impulse responses. Both the Mooer and Hotone offer this feature while competitors like DigiTech and Zoom don't. I prefer Hotone products due to their better build quality and better written software.

[@donparkison4617]

I got the Gigboard and I certainly wouldn't have if you couldn't load IRs. Its speaker cab stuff is really not that great, but the amps through some good IRs sound really good. Looks like the Hotone has more amps and a cool computer interface, where the Gigboard has a better hardware interface but no computer app. But yea, in either case, the ability to use IRs are a must.

[@mjsthx1138]

You don't need to swipe through the amp list on the Ampero,. You can use the scroll wheel.

[@cruisenguitars7554]

I know we have the output to go straight into the board with the Ampero , and I'm an old fashioned guy, I run out 2 to tube amps, both are using a very good quality clean tone, 1 amp is a Peavey classic 50, the other head is an Egnater tweaker 40. So you realize I play stereo most of the time,The Ampero has some great Fx...but I sometimes wonder if the Fractal FX8..wasn't the way to go...But I have gotten compliments that shows we have done here in Chicago on the way my guitar sounds using the Ampero.

[@paulheavenly]

I had all this units and used them live. For me the Headrush is the best decision, cause of his touchscreen operation and sound. The Mooer and the Hotone have a little gap when switching the patches. That's a no go for playing live.

[@jcugnoni]

Thanks for this great comparison video. I have had a quite a few entry level modelers in the past: a Zoom 404, the Line 6 POD XT, Amplifi Fx100, Mooer GE 200 and now an Hotone Ampero. All I can say is that the GE200 and Ampero with IR loaders are just incredible. I loved the GE200 high gain sounds but found it very stiff and a bit sterile for lower gains. I prefered the Ampero as it feels more natural (feel more tubey) and as overall better effects and more realistic clean and crunch sounds.

[@JanSzedlak]

Agree my man. Ampero is all I need for my playing. Great shit.

[@aaronshortmusic]

I like the form factor of the Headrush. The Kemper Stage is my favorite. HX Stomp if you need something ultra portable.

[@kupaam74]

i love your high pitch voice in the beginning hahahahaha 'Hello there, how are you doing?'

[@LinhNguyen-im4uu]

I had the Gigboard. What I found is that I had to EQ it pretty aggressively to even get it to sound right, but it sounded GREAT when dialed in properly. I was a tube amp and analog pedals guy and never bothered with EQ pedals, so I was frustrated at first, but thanks to the Gigboard I learned a ton about EQ'ing and filtering. Fortunately, the touch screen made everything so easy to adjust at home or live. Not to mention it has something ultra useful that many others don't: a precise drop tune - similar to the DIgitech Drop and just as good, so I could play songs in Eb without having to tune down. Using the Helix now I truly miss that feature - can't believe Line 6 still hasn't figured out how to do it yet.

[@brainycrunches2359]

Could someone tell me please the difference between a phenomenal sound and a pretty damn awesome sound? Thanks.

[@neilswan8015]

phenomenal = $$$$$ for tube head cab, effects, mic etc./ damn awesome sound = $$ for multi unit. i don't think many people could tell the difference with a full band mix anyways

[@jancreighton]

at 4.01 you ask what is OTG. At 4.13 you answer your own question.... "On the go" - it refers to an "On the go cable" ie a usb dongle cable for attaching another device or memory stick etc. just like you might use with your android phone etc. Great vid - love your stuff :)

[@brainycrunches2359]

Hi. How about Mooer GE 250 vs Hotone One?

[@AutismRocksOfficial]

How would you rate the Ampero Vs the Pod Go? They are both similarly priced here in the States. I'm looking at getting one or the other. I like the XLR ports on the Ampero. If you were forced to choose, which would it be?

[@cathousemike]

I own a Helix and a Headrush Gigboard. The Helix is my main rig but I get GREAT tones out of my Gigboard and it takes external drive pedals like a champ. The secret is user impulse responses and using EQ. I was a big time OwnHammer IR user until I found Live Ready Sound IR's. They are the best I've used and make a big difference.

[@bigtrouble4447]

thank you for the comprehensive look at these... i am really leaning towards the ampero to replace my mooer GE200... you've helped inform my decision... peace

[@bluematrix5001]

you can scroll the sounds with the big knob in Ampero!

[@2n3chordjams70]

The title on this video is limiting views I'm afraid. It's an EXCELLENT what's available out there video IMO!!!!!!

[@sqwert654]

Unreal Engine 4 is getting the inbuilt DAW treatment from the Epic developers. 4.23 saw some nice additions for audio. This is going to be interesting for making audio for my games. Also R.I.P. EytscPi42 if the splinter kills you.

[@BlazzingSpeed80]

Henning I'll add an alternative to these floor modelers. As an example. A Marshall Origin 20H Head (298€)+Two notes Torpedo C.A.B amp sim(279€)+Two Notes Torpedo loadbox (229€)=806€. Yes you don't have a CAB but you can record directly to a PC. Plus you get the all tube amp and just like the OX loadbox the two notes one has great cab sims in it. Downsides are, you need to buy all pedals and other amp heads if you want a more diverse sound. But through the years, I'd bet that most just keep to the sound they like the most and that's all. The above solution is for those who play at home, and can't have a 4x12 CAB maxed to 10 killing all their neighbors.

[@BigMetalDaddy1301]

The ge300 is indeed a different animal and shares another sound engine like the mooer preamp live which is something like a tone capture, comparable to the kemper. (maybe 75-85% like the kemper sound and feel wise) and it does sound a lot better then the ge 200/150 which already sound pretty damn good for the price! But i returned it because of the most of the time lacking support and got the kemper. (also tested the helix lt and it is nice, but i thought why not go full top tier)

[@akaalgaming9537]

would ampero one mp-80 be a better option since its similarly priced to ge200 and has all effects of ampero mp-100

[@fritsvanzanten3573]

'Fun thing': I was practicing the intro riff of Prince's When Doves Cry, which uses an octave pedal (I understood). So, I wanted to know whether they had such an effect onboard. Not all brands offer a walk in the park finding that out. Which is weird. You are supposed to buy 'a lot', but not really care what this lot contains.

[@RickyTickyTV]

I don't know man, Pete Thorn got some amazing sounds out of the Headrush but he is also Pete Thorn. I generally trust your opinions, however.

[@MapleAudio]

Being honest, I was just listening to the sounds whilst surfing on the web, so I haven't seen what pedal you played. When you switched to the Gigboard, which I found out when I opened the tab with video I was shocked how nasty and harsh it sounded. I was convinced not my type of pedal, BUT then again I listened to it in the background and did not watch it and when you just switched between cabs and mics it sounded sometimes pretty awesome. I think you just have to fiddle around and find the sound that you want as always. Anyway thanks for the review. It is really a good overview of all the ''budget''-pedals out there. HoTone and Gigboard win for me in terms of ease of use, sound and price.

[@leslawrenson9305]

I've got to say that I like the sound of the Headrush. Get some decent custom IRs loaded up, and those amps will rock good and hard.

[@donparkison4617]

I have one and all I use are the IRs. You can download some Celestion IRs that were made for the unit that sound great. My only complaint is the effect list is fairly small. You have everything you need but the variety is a bit limited. However what you dont get in effects, the looper makes up for. The looper function is amazing on this thing with ridiculous amount of loop time and stacking options. I combined it with a pair of the 8 inch powered frfr speakers and it sounds pretty awesome. Key point, if you get one of these, turn off the global eq. Its a serious tone suck and makes everything sound terrible. I fought with it for a few weeks before I realized what was happening.

[@dathioz]

I actually dont like touchscreens on everything, fingerprints everywhere and I like the tactile feeling of a button/knob

[@burnnlearn]

Same here - in fact, I don’t like screens at all. The one on my multi-fx got damaged, and now it’s basically unusable although the sounds still work.

[@sirius_li]

Are manufacters aware that 100% of guitar players are full on or occasional desktop players? Could they not make nice desktop versions of their boxes without the footswitches like the boss rc-202/505 loopers? Just askin'.

[@redllamajg5890]

You hit that Gspot!

[@sirius_li]

@Steve1963 D Silly! The interface would obviously be different. Not punching footswitches with your hands. Could even have a rainbow "keyboard" Korg type for expression, or sequencer or arpeggiator. Touchscreen would be a great option too.

[@eddiejuarez]

Headrush got better Prossessor and you tried out with the cabs modeled.. IR's make a reeeal difference in Gigboard.. there's many videos on YT where you can download good ones.. I DID!!

[@markmeloney2643]

The headrush really comes alive when you use the parametric eq. I always use henning's 5000 hz trick for guitars. I have the older eleven rack and still get good tones. Just takes some messing around.

[@ArcanumA]

Could you please clarify what is that 5kHz trick?

[@etanramoz]

Yeah! Please exlain!:)

[@markmeloney2643]

@@ArcanumA just boost around 5 khz and play with the amount and width of the bump until it sounds good. Sometimes i do as much as 8 or 9 db depending on the amp. that frequency area is where most of the clarity in distorted guitars is. I also recommend a high pass filter up to somewhere roughly around 150hz to clean up the full band mix.

[@amirkhalid5449]

I have the Mooer GE100, which appears to be the predecessor of the GE150 (or maybe it's bottom of the range, below the GE150). I have a user preset which turns off the amp voicings, and I use it purely to supplement my amp's onboard effects, as well as to provide a noise gate and tuner. It and the GE150, I agree, are perfect for beginners educating themselves about effects.

[@sqwert654]

As a noob player I have this , IB SIX6, GE150, Crush 35RT, Mooer150, IK Axe IO. OTG is the AI into Presonus. USB is used to control the unit from PC. Perfect for home playing with headphones. With a LiPo to power , you could play anywhere.

[@georgebarry3153]

Thank you so much for that part about Animal Shelters...You Rock!!!!!

[@christianzorn5191]

Nice video, but what is with the Boss boards ? I Think th Boss Gt-1 for example would perfectly fit in this comparison with it's features and the low price ...

[@johnong2655]

I feel boss offers the best control configuration and footswitch. Having expression pedal, parameter value ctrl switch, momentary switch and so on. Sound wise, and amp, nope. I would recommend only for those into progressive, experimental and electronic genre

[@maomao180]

Zoom stuff is super underrated

[@mcr0741]

Apparently... :/

[@mihnea358]

I have a g3xn it's all right for home practice, but connecting it to a PA system directly it is pure shit and i'm considering getting the line6 pod go when it's out beacuse of the price and the advanced technology

[@TelevizijaDA]

MihneaGaming 358 - i think the same!

[@isaiahfurrow7414]

Hello.... Thanks for the videos.... Our household is still pretty new to guitar. Looking to get something relatively small, for learning with, hoping to not meed the full Helix or Headrush pedalboards. Our main needs, is something easy to use and learn, as we are new to guitar, and also new to effects. I'm hoping to be able to dial in sounds "similar" to a range of 60s, 70s, 80s, and some newer songs... and then easily access them again later for practicing. So, wanting flexibility in the sounds available, easy use, etc.. not super concerned with perfect models or the best sound, we are beginners, not playing in a band or anything... I don't know yet that we would NEED an expression pedal, so the Gigboard was one on the list, we could add a pedal later if needed... We also have looked into just a few normal pedals, as well as possibly a Mooer(cheaper option), and others. Considered incorporating a small multi-effects along with standard pedals... There are just too many choices to know where to start. Now Line 6 has announced the Pod Go at NAMM... Price looks ok for the Pod Go, but the user interface of the Gigboard just looks so easy, especially for young people used to touchscreen devices. My daughter will be using this as much as me, she will be 10 in a couple months. The main drawback I see with the Pod Go, it seems limited to choosing just 4 effects, I dont know if that is enough, or if it would be limiting us....and it makes no mention of a looper. So, which few multi-effects should I keep looking at? Or should I start with a tuner pedal, an overdrive, and then later just add one effect at a time, like delay, reverb, phaser, chorus, etc...? Your video are full of info, we need someone knowledgeable to help us get started playing with effects... any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

[@p_mouse8676]

I really like these modeling things nowadays. Especially from a practical point of view. But the problem is that I always run into the same issue. I get choice anxiety. There are just to many sounds, that I keep just fiddling around, instead of actually making music. Maybe you can cover it in a video once? I am curious if people have the same issue and how they cope with it?

[@kenmasters007]

Just download/buy patches.... less fiddling...

[@iagobroxado]

​@@kenmasters007no way, since you are still going to fiddle with those too after the download.

[@iagobroxado]

It's just the nature of the thing.

[@IwoIwanov]

When recording, what set-up would you prefer? (1) Multi-effects unit via USB into DAW. (2) Multi-effects unit via two 1/4 inch jack cables into stereo interface into DAW. - Thanks

[@raibard8886]

There's no accounting for taste. First, great video! Second, on my studio speakers which are accurate, more or less, the Headrush, after you tweaked it, sounded the most like an actual amp, and not just an effect. Third, when were you at Berklee? I graduated in 98'

[@Slap63]

All Guitars in this song are completly recorded with the MOOER GE200 Amp Modeler. Rain Air - Sitz Platz Bleib (Rammstein Style) Official Video kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqnbm6agh9l8iMk

[@jamesconn4226]

Hi Henning, love ur vidz and zany style. Keep up the good work. 😊👍

[@dm976]

Amperon is currently 285€ on Amazon, thats a steal.

[@spada60]

Wow the Headrush didn't floor you? I have all of these modelers every single one of them and for plexi sounds none of them comes close to the Headrush for sound amp feel and dynamics. I guess different strokes for different folk but you Henning are in the minority when it comes to the Headrush.

[@jeremyhuffman101]

spada60 Just based on this video alone I’d agree, HR sounded much more natural to me than the ampero. I’ve heard ampero sound better than it did here in other videos so not sure what to make of it overall. Right now SW has Ampero for $400 and HR for $650 so they don’t really compete in the same segment.

[@IntheDAW]

Hotone honestly is impressive when you think of the price and all the options you get. the headrush sounds really bad but often times what I do with my eleven rack is use a pedal with a impulse loader in it to make it sound less digital. that said lately i have been using a xtomp mini as the head and the impulse pedal as the cab... i might need to just buy a ampero.

[@joehervey84]

I've had a few over the years,to tired to type any more. Fine here is 1 the rp90

[@heldersguitar489]

Hi, I've got some doubts about the mooer that you may have the answer for. When using the looper, the first two foot switches are to slow down 50% and play it backwards, right? (on the ge200) If so, can they be assigned to more practical functions like changing presets or turn pedals on and off? I really don't see the use for the standard functions. The play it backwards seems like a bad taste, useless gimmick, and the slow down option would be useful, to practice, on a sub menu with the tempo being adjusted, by a button, on much smaller increments, preferably 1%. I know that you can change presets, when using the looper, by pressing two foot switches at the same time, and then using the first two foot switches as normal, but then, you got to press the two, again, in order to use the looper functions, am I right? This seems very impractical, and a way to mess up, either by pressing the wrong switches or getting distracted about the pedal instead of what you're playing. So, all I what to know, really, is: when the looper is being used, can the first two foot switches be assigned to their original function (change between presets)? By the way, if you know any good use for the play backwards thing please let me know. I'm interested in buying one, but this is putting me of. It seems like a joke, not a proper function, and I really don't like jokes on the client's dime. Also, can the loop tempo be slow downed in more useful increments inside the menus, or is it just 50% or 100% (again, if that's the case, that's a joke, not a function, I'll still have to loop the parts if I want to learn something. If I'm struggling with a song, I'll get there by playing it marginally faster every time, not twice as fast). Thank you!

[@user-ny4lx3vt2p]

Thank you, for tolking slowly! My English is bad, but i'm understand 80%)

[@TyRobertsmedia]

Thanks for showing the features and giving us a good basis of sounds. I know which one I prefer, but it will be different for other bloks. For giging I'd go full helix for sure, but for desktop, practicing and traveling I'd pick the Ampero. FYI: My current stage rig is an old Marshall MP-1, a TC G-Major, stereo into a Mesa Boogie 20/20 (EL84 Stereo) power amp - controlled with a Behringer Midi pedal - through 2 separate 1x12 cabs = HUGE TONE. No modelers I've tried to date have matched the dynamic range and feel of that rig for live. ;-)

[@Bcwilderness]

wow the ampero into a neve 1073 standalone or api preamp will work in the studio, cool

[@gilmarriner3011]

Henning, nice video. I’ve had the GT100 in the beginning, sold that and got the HR when that came out. One thing is for sure........it’s digital and sounds like that also. Always had a problem getting the same sound and there was always some tweaking involved. Got tired of that, sold it on Reverb and got me a decent amp with some good pedals. I think these are great for a home studio but I wasn’t really impressed in a gig situation. Just my opinion.

[@LordSonny94]

The GE-300 they say is A LOT more + Tone Capture ("Like a Kemper") - YES! I said it xD Would actually LOVED to see you do a video on this. Just because you are honest :)

[@Cluless02]

Headrush - Line 6, which is the problem. They've never been known for quality. Mooer is quite good and a great value.

[@sunnytaufiq07]

Really live to get GE150 but after try G1X Four.... and felt that sound much better.

[@Paul_Lenard_Ewing]

Sorry not to hear a mention of the Strymon Iridium. True it is a different approach just 3 basic modeled amps etc. BUT it is small and it is in the budget range covered. Best of all it has the sound quality of the big guys like Fractal Audio's Axe III and Kemper. Whats better a few superb amp models or dozens of mediocre ameteur entry level junk models.

[@mattparker9706]

Yeah Henning, this guy needs validation for his Iridium purchase that didn’t improve his mediocre amateur entry level junk playing the way he hoped it would! How could you not cater to him? (Btw, you could have saved some money and just bought Nu-x Solid Studio)

[@Paul_Lenard_Ewing]

Mediocre? Yes asshole I am so bad my band Tallis could only get a gig opening for Rush!! I have worked for Ibanez as a product specialist. You don't get that gig if you can't play!!! I am 73 but can still play triplets clean at a 160 BPM. I also run a blog Stomp Box Steals with 246,945 readers who come to me for equipment advice!!

[@EytschPi42]

I just haven't had an Iridium in front of me... I can't talk about stuff that I haven't tested.

[@Paul_Lenard_Ewing]

@@EytschPi42 Why not I talk about stuff you have tested all the time. If you love it I buy it and you are always right. LOL

[@johnstitt2615]

You need a green screen fireplace to go with the comfy scarfsweater.

[@FLdb-wj4wc]

I had the headrush for about an hour. It was really really bad compared to the helix. I like the UI on the Mooer but I have to try it to see how it sounds.

[@KateLynnBeatty]

Nice to see a review of some of the less expensive products in this line of pedals.

[@georgebarry3153]

May I add that Tech21 NYC does the flyrig and it deserves a place in these comparisons. Many working musicians use them. They definetly have a a place.

[@napalmhardcore]

They have a place, but not in this video. They aren't comparable. These use digital modelling and give you lots of different amps and effects. The Flyrig emulates one amp with a fixed selection of effects.

[@georgebarry3153]

@@napalmhardcore fwiw the Tech21 flyrigs do 2 amps..and use digital fx. Sure its not a whole lot of modeling but the price point is similar to the cheaper modelers..so some folks may want to see these as an alternative.

[@napalmhardcore]

@@georgebarry3153 The original Flyrigs emulated one amp (the Sansamp part) and a built in overdrive/distortion could be switched on in conjunction with it. You must be talking about the V2 versions. If I remember right, the only digital effect (in the original) was the reverb. I do agree that it is an alternative some people may want to see, but it is very much an alternative rather than a comparable product.

[@ERPRocks]

Why did you not include the Zoom in the comparison.

[@BuildYourOwnBass]

6:58 can't tell us any MOOER? 🤣

[@user-vp1jl1vb2g]

Hotone or headrush gigboard? What do you think is better?

[@PooNinja]

Diamond plate backgrounds make eryting cool 🤘🏽 just like the wipes 🔹🔄🔷🤘🏽

[@GregK5550]

Have you tried atomic amplifire box/3/6/12? I think its killer for the money!

[@Singerswapnillive]

How does hotone ampero compare to the nux mg 30 in terms of amp simulation (specially the fender and marshall amps),audio depth quality of reverbs and modulation ?? Plz tell

[@usta028]

I’m in the market for a helix, hell I had an helix lt, but even that is still too big.. and the hx stomp too small. I like the form factor of the small headrush, but tbh I’m not convinced by the sounds. I wish line 6 made something about the size of the hotone ampero or the small headrush. I would immediately buy it.

[@Schizmatizmify]

Agreed! All I want is an amp model that chugs well, in a unit that isn't the size of my house. Is that too much to ask?

[@Stefan-]

I could maybe be interested in a a Helix (or Lt), but hauling that huge heavy beast around is not really an option, they should make a Helix mini with a similar size to the Mooer GE300. I have been pretty interested in the GE300, i really liked interface, functions etc, but most of the sounds ive heard wasnt that great. I wish i could try some of these pedals for myself, but possibilities for that is not that good.

[@robertregalado1015]

Bought the Harley Benton DNA git. I'm sorry I got it. It's a fizz machine...at least the presets are. I'm sure it might be ok for recording or playing at low volumes. I own a JCM 800 and an Orange Rockerverb. It doesn't make sense to me to replicate these amps thru a prosesser. I like my analog pedal board..a boost and some verb and delay in the loop works and sounds much better to me. I had high hopes for the HB...but just another modeler ...nothing special. I should have bought a chorus pedal instead.

[@vksolanki]

Aren't they working with Fricker? And you kept yelling that Fricker was wrong. It all makes sense now...

[@Bcwilderness]

get a nice api or neve preamp from these to interface and that really kicks it up, software killer, or hit a plugin with a tube pedal

[@patrickpierson6079]

two questions... why are the most modellers so expensive? I bought a BossGT100 a few years ago for 360€. It would be great to show the time between two patches. Is there a gap ? do you recognice it or not? My BossGT100 has no Gap between the sound. The (very expensive) fractal audio II has a remarcable gap (heard it at a show with steve vai a few years ago...) And i thought taht the Line6 Helix has a gap too...

[@livekaos]

how do you compare these new inexpensive systems with the m series from line6?

[@bluematrix5001]

The Headrush sound very versatile.....no idea why he did not like it at all

[@ntanglr]

I am waiting for delivery of HR Gigboard right now and I must say, I wouldn't have gone for it if I were able to find this video beforehand. I will check it out and might still like it though

[@gordonfreeman9368]

Hi! HR is great. Do not worry.

[@ntanglr]

@@gordonfreeman9368 It is indeed, I love it. Never tried other top notch modelers, but this one is just good enough for me. I went from playing 6505+ with vert 212 to Gigboard + FRFR 112 and I don't miss the feel or the sound, it's just convenient and great.

[@gordonfreeman9368]

@@ntanglr In a master mix all modelers sounds the same! 😂

[@jamesconn4226]

Henning, I'm thinking of buying either a firehawk fx or Boss ME80. Can you advise me which you think is better in terms of patch sound quality and ease of use. thanx.

[@robj144]

Did they do a firmware update after this was made for the Ampero? You can scroll with dial too now. (For the amps... you don't need to use the touch interface.)

[@SPRSNCalive]

I have a Headrush and all I can say is: Never ever use the factory presets! They are really bad. I use Celestion IRs with great results - especially the Suhr-Speaker-Pack is great. With the touchscreen-interface and firmware 2.1 you can easily navigate through IR-Folders :)

[@Crunchifyable2]

That is the most tasteful collection of amps ever. Only thing I don't see is a Fender.

[@AlShieldsMusic]

I'd be keen on one of the Mooer ones if they would ditch the rubbish expression pedal and do a 'lite' model. Like a budget HX Stomp.

[@ozmusic3035]

Don't know whats wrong with you(your settings I mean) but the headrush sounds bigger and more real...you didn't make the ampero sound great...though I liked your presentation...and agree that stating you don't need more than 5 amps in a room filled with dozens is ridiculous...thanks anyway

[@spekenbonen72]

What I think is weird is that only MOOER has an update list on their website. This makes me wonder if they other brands even bring out updates.

[@monkklein8282]

Hotone does

[@mcr0741]

Love the sound of the Ampero, but from what I've read, it's got the most failure rates. No idea about the Headrush. The only Line 6 product I've ever used is the POD HD 500X. The problem with Mooer is that they seem a bit too overpriced. They work good, have no/very few failures, have a nice interface, good sound. But seriously the pricing? GE 200 looks like a good deal but then it doesn't have individual control knobs or stomp switches. GE300 is suddenly too big and too overpriced for basically the same sounds as a ge200 + a few extra switches and knobs, which are useful though. But not worth the extra $500. They recently came up with a GE250, which I had high hopes for, and it's good too, but then its basically just a ge200 with 2 extra foot switches for $200 more. Really hate the absence of control knobs. It's a real PITA when you're on stage and need to make quick adjustments according to the sound system. It's like cycling through the alphabet with only one rotary knob on a keyboard for typing something. Edit : Now, look at a Zoom G3XN for example, it's got such a good interface, 3 displays, 6 foot switches, ability to add multiple instances of the same effect in the signal chain, decent sounding amp models, about 12 individual control knobs and all that in the same footprint as a ge200 but for just $220?! TF! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@lessthanpinochet]

The Ampero has malware in the firmware updates when you download it straight from Hotone's website. It also doesn't have a native ASIO (Windows 10 blocks unsigned software (probably because that too has malware)) which you means you need to use a third party one, and all of them sound bad. It defeats the whole purpose of the Ampero also being an audio interface if you can't use it's native ASIO driver. I want to get rid of mine now that I can't update the firmware. Hotone is awful.

[@mcr0741]

@@lessthanpinochet See, another failure report about the Hotone.

[@lessthanpinochet]

@@mcr0741 Actually, here's an update. Hotone just released their own asio driver on their website. But... in FL studio you still need to use asio4all if you actually want to record via usb and still be able to hear the DAW(metronome for recording). You can plug the headphones directly into the ampero use that as an audio interface but it sounds super digital and fizzy, and so do the recorded tracks. However if you plug your headphones straight in your computer and then select asio4all and then within it, you select Hotone's native asio driver, it sounds good to very good. But man, I'm not a noob at this stuff and it took me months to figure out how to get a decent sound out of this thing. The ampero is the most user unfriendly product I might have ever used.

[@phi2771]

Is the Mooer 150 relatively new? Also, can you go out of one side to your amp for affects only, and the other side to the PA or front of the house, with the amp modeling, at the same time on any of these units ?

[@yesh3]

Thanks! very helpful

[@DocHollidayGames]

I used to be interested in Mooer, but after seeing their attitude towards product reviewers, I'm not anyMooer. Think I prefer the Ampero

[@alvaroantonioocampogrey2823]

Hello, In terms of tone, Ampero or Zoom G3xn? (Zoom is more easy to use onstage and less expensive)

[@ahall3823]

The fractal gear sounds better than the line 6 imo

[@ozmusic3035]

The lne 6 gear sounds better than the fractal imo

[@6MileHouse]

I think the HEADRUSH sounded the best in this video.

[@andreatanzi9269]

I have found a mooer ge200 used for €199 and a hotone ampero ex-demo for €350. Looking many videos on yt I am convinced ever more that ampero sounds way better than the mooer. So my question is: do you think I have to go for the ampero or I have to search something more espansive maybe more close to a real tube amp sound?

[@lessthanpinochet]

I have a Hotone Ampero and as much as I wanted to like it , it kinda sucks. I recently downloaded the latest firmware and it had malware on it. I couldn't believe it. I downloaded it directly from their website, and they thought it was a good idea to put malware on it that my anti-virus caught immediately. That's an automatic 0/100. Despite it being an audio interface, when I try to use it via USB cable to record, there's no native Hotone Ampero ASIO driver that shows up in FL studio. This means I need to use FL studio's ASIO driver which sounds good but has horrible latency that I can't get rid of. Or I need to use ASIO4all which sounds mediocre to pretty bad, depending which patch I'm using. Apparently, Windows 10 blocks the ASIO driver from Hotone, because it is unsigned, which is super suspicious. Why is it unsigned? I'll just have to assume that it has malware too. This is a -100/100 because I essentially can't use the Ampero for what I bought it for which is quiet direct usb recording with my headphones on. The sound quality doesn't sound anywhere near as good as it does in any of the youtube videos I saw when I was researching the Ampero. Just with my headphones directly plugged into it, it sounds very digital and fizzy. When I use the overdrive pedals into my real amp, it sounds... OK at best. Not bad per se. The only time it sounds quite good is when I use it via direct USB recording, and with FL studio ASIO driver (not ASIO4all) but the latency makes it extremely hard to record. I haven't found a way around it yet. I haven't sold it yet, because I really really want to like it and I want it to work but after downloading malware of their official website, I have a seriously negative view of Hotone and will never buy any of their products ever again. I don't want to sell my Ampero but it has been collecting dust for the most part since I bought it. Deeply disappointed.

[@christophegragnic8681]

OK but what about the Amplifire 3/6/12?

[@davidmurray9193]

Is there any floor modllers that has a bypass that cuts off the effects then can be enabled, so I can use my own amp sounds then effects with ease instead of pulling all of my cables out and replacing? Looking at the Moore ge300, boss gt1000 ect (tried the pod go after I was told it did this but didn't so I sold it, plus wireless coming out pissed me right off just afterwards) some clever little boffin must of added this feature to a cool modeller

[@Crunch0123]

Es tut mir leid, mein Deutsch ist nicht so flussig, wie ich mochtest, also werde ich auf Englisch schreiben. I hope that is ok. Great review, as always. I watched several ov your reviews. Give me a piece of advice, if possible, brother. I have a Boss ME 80, and I am looking for a new multieffect unit, just to try something new. What would you recommend? No modelling, just a fx int my tube amp. I am leaning toward hotone ampero.

[@EytschPi42]

I haven’t tried the new Amperos yet, but they are on their way. Maybe look at the Line6 HX One

[@Crunch0123]

@@EytschPi42 Thanks for the reply. I need the expression pedal. Otherwise I have to haul an extra wah.

[@ukuk907]

What is the difference between ampero and ampero one?

[@ruckusguitars8191]

Glad I found this older comparison. How would the Pod Go stack up against the more expensive Ampero and the GE-200 & GE-300?

[@EytschPi42]

I would go fo the PodGo before I go for any of the others

[@gauravlama2079]

Could you also please do a review with Boss gt100 and Line6 helix lt.......

[@rveurope]

Boss Gt 100 I agree..the Gt 001 has already great potential!

[@dustrider9306]

He(y/nning!) I'd like to know if you can compare the 150 and 200 directly. I've read that the 150 would sound not as good due to some worse A/D D/A Couplers and s**t... Could you do a comparison? Use case cenario would be home recording, jamming, fx for tubeamp incl. ir-loader. Ich weiß, das ist viel gefragt, aber vielleicht hast du da ja auch eine Meinung dazu. Danke und Grüße aus Leipzig!

[@Germanmarkar]

Hello! Thank you very much for your reviews, watching them is always very interesting. Great presentation of information. I'm going to buy a processor, but am lost in the choice. I watch reviews, I like everything! In real life, there is no way to see, listen and compare. Glance and desire cannot focus on one of three options - Boss ME-80; Boss GT-1; Mooer GE150. The Mooer GE150 is very attractive, the presence of Drums, Boss, it seems to me more convenient to use. If I understand correctly, the sound can be tuned to whatever is necessary, I’m not good at it. Please help with advice on which to choose, I’ve been suffering for more than a month, the Tomann catalog has already become a reference book! Maybe you advise which other, no more expensive than the ME-80? What is the best option in your opinion? 🤔

[@idanshahar]

Henig do you know a band called Strata? you almost played a clean riff of theirs at 22:00 !

[@brianburke808]

It would have been perfect for me if that had been a midi out (or an in/out) rather than an in. I'm confused why Hotone thought a midi in on a multieffects/amp modleler was more important than an out.