How Good Is Doomfist? (Overwatch)

[@gibz5700]

People will always complain about anything harder to hit than a Rein shield

[@coyotezzz]

Regardless of his balance, you've gotta say he's lived up to the hype.

[@jonathanbezeau8213]

Wrong there. We got ANOTHER offense hero. Doomfist is cool, but ffs there are far more offense heroes than tanks and supports, and people wonder why its so hard to have a team comp with enough tanks and supports. Blizzard should stop making offense heroes until there are similar numbers in each class :P

[@coyotezzz]

Jonathan Bezeau I completely agree, and second this notion fully. Healers filling 1/5th of the roster and being expected to fill 1/3rd of a team comp is absolutely ridiculos. That being said, its hard to deny that the hype surrounding DOOMFIST himself wasn't lived up to. We received all that we wanted (minus Terry, rip) and more, and despite it not being what we NEED, it's still incredible.

[@jonathanbezeau8213]

Oh yeah, totally. Doomfist is a super cool hero. His lore is bad ass, he is fun to play, and he fills an offensive role that is very active which is nice! as opposed to passive damage dealers like hanzo I like doomfist, I just really thought he would be a defense hero :P Maybe we'll get another support next though

[@coyotezzz]

Personally, I'd like to see a support defense hybrid! It'd be really great to play a situational healer who defends their team as much as they heal them.

[@YukitoOnline]

Support Defense Hybrid? *cough* Symmetra* cough*

[@RoderickR07]

The world can always use more melee Heroes.

[@LukeWayne1939]

roderickuw That should be a new voiceline

[@woei4877]

roderickuw "The world could always use more conflict" would be a pretty good one for Doomfist

[@RoderickR07]

Ryan den Ridder Doomfist: "The world could always use more conflict." Tracer: (¬_¬)

[@jerrycoolmanio1]

Can't wait for the day we can play overwatch like a fighting game.

[@khinlop]

Except he has got 4 shotguns in his left fist

[@khidir813]

He's definitely the best fister in Overwatch

[@contracteddiseases6025]

LOL

[@travisporter357]

Loser lol

[@michaelsiders9319]

Waluigi Jumpman I spit out my corn flakes from laughing when I read that comment

[@ivansantos2134]

SunBro's \[T]/ 69 likes

[@exmilitia2296]

profile pic checks out

[@I_am_ENSanity]

My only complaint is that his primary move isn't regular punches. Also, that he isn't voiced by Crews.......POWEEEEEEEEEEEEEER!!!!!!

[@azurblueknights]

Crews would have sucked voicing Doomfist, hands down. Perhaps if Doomfist had kind of been a hammy villain Crews would have worked, but as an actual legit villain who's one of Talon's leaders? Crews would have ruined Doomfist just with the voice work alone.

[@lucasburnett-hornburg151]

Fwazangalang Entertainment jeff talked about how hard genji was to balance when he used to be melee only(because hes an offensive hero) . it never felt good to anyone testing it, so they gave him shurikens. every hero (except rein cause he is a tank and swings slow)is gonna have a gun.

[@maddoxbellrose7679]

Elder Maxson looks at zenyatta "I have hands and a foot melee master" said zen zenfully

[@lucasburnett-hornburg151]

Maddox Bellrose zens kick is badass though lmoa

[@FatalFist]

I like to think that is because Blizzard probably offered him a better role.

[@Duckman1616]

Maybe this will make Symmetra or Torb more viable, as they can buff people to 275hp, out of Doomfist's one shot range.

[@emergency.jergens]

quick melee lol

[@jakjak9797]

Emergency Jergens Still not as reliable and gives them the chance of escape with no bonus to doomfist.. Plus syms turrets will certainly become very annoying for him if he wants to combo someone in a defensive location and torbs turret will force him to take the damage or go up to it rather then an actual hero.. In many ways doomfist will make defence heroes more reliable in general. Mei will be able to freeze him a lot since he wants to get in close, as well as wall off his incoming charges sometimes.. widow will be able to be more free to fire shots (with him on her team or on the enemy's, alike) Bastion obviously is fairly effective against him, especially if bastion has any good team supporting him junkrat can spam around him and do huge damage, probably a favourable fight for junkrat obviously torb will be fairly effective even hanzo will probably do better against him then many offence heroes doomfist will be the most effective against tanks and other offence, plus healing supports like zen and actually Lucio.. he'll be less effective against mercy and Ana if she has a sleep dart ready, probably.

[@noicemcnoiceface4006]

I asked for an Old Spice hero and Jeff gave us SpeedStick

[@jollycooperation7446]

Guy next hero is going to be another Offense hero. He does 1 Damage per shot, has 1 shot, and no reloads. Has 100 health, self damages for 99 health per shot, and his ult is to respawn back at spawn. His abilities are to jump, cower, and run away. From which he takes self damage of 20 for every cast. He takes an increased 500% damage from Every damage source, he cant be healed or use healing packs, and he cant Be rez by Mercy. I would say this next hero is the most OP hero to be announced yet.

[@maddoxbellrose7679]

SunBro's \[T]/ and his name is that punch kid

[@NiraSader]

Doomfist's rocket punch oneshot is pretty similar to Reinhardt's charge oneshot: -you have to knock people into a wall to kill them -you bring yourself out of position with the ability -the ability is pretty well telegraphed

[@milomaguire3554]

The charged punch parallels better with rine's charge rather than hog's hook. It's similar in kill style, just on a longer cooldown. And some obvious stuff.

[@foxeh123]

0:14 Doomfist punched so hard that Roadhog turned into a flat spray on the wall.

[@sssssnnnnaaakke]

Thank you, force for being the one person to not put out a video with a title like "doomfist too op"or"doomfist best oneshot" and actually just went out and said whats actually the case. doomfist(250hp) has a unreliable 1 shot ability(which displaces him) with a damage of 49-100 or 98-250 if you hit a wall roadhog(600hp) has a much more reliable one shot(which displaces the enemy) with a damage of 96.66-180 or 163.32-330 if you hit headshots in the end roadhog still has the better oneshot(also hanzo still has a 450 damage oneshot) also a good way to look at this is, thats his right click...i mean i see it less as a ability and more as his secondary fire(yes i understand it is an ablility because sombra hack stops it) but hes a dps hero so his alternate fire can do up to 250, roadhog alternate fire can do up to 300.

[@DokuDoki]

Doomfist's shotgun does a surprising amount of damage

[@KhunShawn]

Didn't the lore say Doomfist was supposed to be a badass and damn near everyone waned him? Now that he's in the game people want to nerf him because he's a badass?

[@m3tr0id86]

I'm probably going to do a " *AND HERE COMES THE GIANT FIST!!!!!* " type moments here and there.

[@RazzaDazza0]

Holy Shit i just realized Doomfist is essentially Captain Falcon from Super Smash Bros, His up b is similar to Doomfists uppercut, his side b is similar to doomfists right click, and his earthshatter like move is essentially Falcons down b, as Falcons down b disrupts moves and it lets him move farther midair!

[@jordanr2244]

LightningShadow7 he's not actually from super smash bros originally. he has his own game

[@RazzaDazza0]

Well yes but im talking about his skillset in Super Smash Bros

[@samsinks9591]

LightningShadow7 his rocket fist is falcon punch

[@jimokun4768]

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[@GuyThatCantSing]

i cant see this comparison at all to be honest. 1: falcons up b makes him grab the opponent. saying that its similar to doomfists is pretty weird considering doomfists uppercut basicly just knocks people upwards... which you should expect from any uppercut in a game like this. 2: falcos side b is an actualy uppercut when used on the ground... the only likeness is that they both travel sideways. 3: saying that falcons down b disrupts enemies is a bit weird, as it all comes down to situations. (what move got priority and such). sure they both go downwards when used in the air but thats about it. IF doomfist should be compared to any smash character it would most likely be littlemac... (except for the fact that little mac dont have good mobility)

[@rohantyagi7511]

I swear all Overwatch KZbinrs use the same font/thumbnails.

[@АлександърТренчев-э2я]

"KZbinrs" LMAO. Is that even a thing?

[@randomcomplex6155]

*@Александър Тренчев* What do you mean?

[@miat9301]

Hes got a huge fkn golden right metal fist yet he punches with his puny little left fist?

[@Lopo13]

TheRealN 97 makes sense since the doomfist is so powerful that if he did use it it would do so much damage for just a regular melee attack

[@DTDdeathmas]

yeah that annoys me too.

[@johnnyrhec]

TheRealN 97 he also punched down a reinforced prison wall to break out of jail. Without the gauntlet. Showing he is well above normal physical strength.

[@DokuDoki]

He should flick people with one finger for a melee attack

[@Stlwartheart14]

a boxer leads a punch with his/her indominant hand, doomfist is clearly right handed since the gauntlet is on his right arm. a boxer with a dominant right hand normally leads a punch with his left hand then with a more powerful strike with the right hand while the opponent is busy blocking or dodging left. Doomfist (despite relying on right hand windup punches) is using proper form within the ring, and applying that in real combat. Dont want to waste your one trick if the enemy can block it, right?

[@TheITTman]

Force you make every character look OP in your vids XD

[@dylanolexa8408]

wanna hear a joke the amount of time we wait for new heroes

[@WierdEnuf4Ya]

I don't know why everyone is comparing him to Roadhog when in reality his ability is more reminiscent of Reinhardt's charge. Both Rein's charge and Doomfist's rocket punch have oneshot potential if the target hits a wall. Just like Reinhardt, there are risks to charging headlong into the enemy team. You screw up, you're as good as dead. The difference, however, is that the risks are lower with Doomfist, considering he's a smaller and faster target with other abilities that can get him out of there if things get hairy. That, and the shorter cooldown. I dunno, I think people are kind of jumping the gun, as they do with every new hero. Given time, players will learn to predict and bait out his abilities. I would also argue that the matchmaking on PTR is far less reliable than live servers, what with so little players, so you should take what you see with a grain of salt.

[@LawfulNugget]

Most Overwatch players are just whiney squeekers. I hope Blizzard doesn't listen and break this character before he gets a chance to live.

[@victor97O6]

Idk about squeekers, but idiots sure sums up a lot of them, maybe on consoles? He'll get nerfed, and there will be undeserved nerfs. Blizzard have two options: Face the wrath of the stupid mass or face the wrath of the intelligent minority. You think you can teach most of the Overwatch community why they're wrong without loosing your mind in the process?

[@alsween218]

Rorik Son IKR! Look what they did to my beloved Roadhog😥. Claims of him being OP are totally exaggerated. He's strong but not THAT strong!😑

[@blooper5li]

I honestly think that Doomfist's biggest counter is one that Force didn't mention: Zenyatta. The fact of the matter is that focus fire is a Doomfist's worst nightmare. He has good mobility, but is a pretty large target. His rocket punch is also a double edged sword, being great for starting fights AND being his main way to get out of danger. Being able to melt his 300 health as quickly as possible should be a team's primary concern when they see a Doomfist, just because of how much damage he can put out. The best hero for doing that is Zenyatta, thanks to his orb of Discord.

[@anthonytarnowski5105]

Answer: very good

[@stannisbaratheon6637]

Genji Shimadamada Can u make blizzard put ur triple jump and old combo back into the game?

[@mooxyx]

Shit Post its now 3 months into the future. Do you still think hes good? Lmao.

[@keyanklupacs6333]

Honestly using his ult as an escape seems almost better than going for the avoidable stun. Or for getting behind the enemy and cause the enemy team to have to turn on you while your team free pushes. I think he would work really well in a dive comp.

[@mmmkoolaid4678]

Can't wait for the "what 1000 hours as Doomfist looks like" video. LuL

[@mykeyboy9810]

Your the best at what you do bro!! Keepemcomin!!

[@Loran93]

I was about to say, damn Force you got good, then I checked the video source in the description...

[@azurblueknights]

He's going through the same bullshit D.Va did. Lot of people bitched and complained that her health and armor values were the reason she was "so strong", but 75% of D.Va's effectiveness has always came from being a disruption based character. Her ability to disrupt most things the enemy team is doing (DM'ing an ult, knocking players aside with her boosters, harassing squishy targets) is what makes her as strong as she is, especially in Dive comps. Fortunately instead of her boosters getting nerfed (or anything else that effects her role as a disrupter) her health and armor values got changed. But now we've got Doomfist, who's kit is designed around the idea of wreaking havoc, and the community is bitching about him being overpowered and trying to blame his strength on his stupidly situational one hit kill. News flash, that gimmicky mechanic isn't why he's as strong as he is! Here's to hoping Blizzard doesn't listen to the whiners, we could use another disruption character.

[@Dindosh98]

doomfist is a fun character. I think he's going to be the first non underrated new hero. Just thinking about it ana was broken but nobody knew how to play her, we are just now realizing sombra's power (buffs help too) and orisa well bah. I really look forward to play him

[@cphtfluke7565]

Pretty much everyone was expecting Doomfist to be a tank. Instead, he's an offense hero. Therefore, he does more damage, by design. I wonder if part of the reason people are saying he's OP is because his attacks are stronger than what they were expecting, because they were expecting a tank.

[@s7robin105]

Tbh you're one of the most level headed people who make overwatch videos. Everyone else cries about roadhog and doomfist but you come to this like an adult and make your points

[@FatalFist]

His disruption is going to be BIG for the Barrier Meta, that's for sure. You wont have to worry so much about your team's Rein using Charge in hopes of taking out the enemy Rein. Your Doomfist just needs to disrupt the enemy Rein enough and faster at that than the enemy Doomfist.

[@curlytops01]

I actually want to play Doomfist a lot and get way better with him. Hard to do so when everyone just wants to pick him for the sake of playing the new hero. Maybe I'll wait a couple weeks until everyone gets bored and gives up on learning the character?

[@Robotfan987]

He's going to be the new Genji. Fun to play and really hard to deal with if you're facing a good one.

[@jacobfoxfires964]

I am thinking it's just in part of people who use Doomfist are also VERY aggressive. I had seen so many videos where Doomfist is all up in your face and constantly kicking ass. And the mentality of all of this is that "I am made of pure iron and power, I can handle this". And it's interesting to see development of this and it can also lead to people realizing this over aggressive nature that can be dealt with if you are good in certain characters like Sombra.

[@icampexfils3637]

I think hes very similar to Gengi by the fact that in order to deal tons of damage, get kills ect... the skill cap is rather high, you need to combo your moves, be smart with your cooldowns but has great damage potential.

[@Hob0mancer]

Doomfists body hitbox was made to be scattered and his head is enormous I would chalk hanzo up as a counter as well.

[@Haidan199]

I will say, I personally feel like doomfist's rocketfist, is more like reinheart's charge in the fact they both can one shot the same people under the same circumstances

[@survivor458]

you keep saying that roadhog was too good in this video I'm not a roadhog main his win rate was 50% his current win rate is 43% and his pick rate is below 1% right now yeah he is in a good spot right now "43%" LOL he is a troll pick, a walking battery

[@sniff1197]

people dont see his weaknesses only his strengths so here is a couple of em 1. his ultimate is pretty hard to use and will mostly do 150 dmg since the middle area can be avoided easily, actually the whole ult can be avoided easily 2. he pretty much only have rocket punch to deal his dmg, the other abilities of his dont do much dmg at all 3. he can be countered pretty easily, and destroyed by pharah and sombra, and now sombra will be used a ton more. isnt that what people wanted? 4.his hitbox is really large and can easily be sniped because both his uppercut and rocket punch makes him go in the same pattern and is easy to predict, making him a very easy target just the ones that came out of my head right now (sry for horrible english :P)

[@Worgak]

It's not just his rocketpunch that oneshots though. You can use uppercut and seismic slam to instantly close a gap that's 30 feet or larger (not accounting for elevation) and then use punch and a shot to combo healer in the blink of an eye. Slam; at elevation deals up to [125] + shot [66] + rocket punch [50] = dead healer And given how quickly that combo is executed and how easy it is to perform it seems to contradict the philosophy of "no oneshots" I'll wait and see how he performs in comp, before I call him broken but he definitely seems strong.

[@ZergforLoser]

For now, it is safe to presume Doomfist as Genji Jr.

[@Kettvnen]

Doomfist is like the mix of hellboy, one punch man, and Terry Crews.

[@scottm9502]

How long is it before you tubers stop making the same video about doomfist with a slightly different title

[@victor97O6]

Well he's had a chance to play Doomfist and see the community's reaction to Doomfist, so a video compiling a few opinions is good, find a better video to post this comment on next time, perhaps other youtubers are better examples for your nagging?

[@famoussession7426]

Til you stop complaining. Doesn't affect your life at all.

[@crawlingpigeon9223]

until they milk the shit outta that revenue

[@maddoxbellrose7679]

KB gamingtime they ain't a orginization once lone hawk did this expression of relization anouncing the suppocive Halloween update

[@marxman5284]

KB gamingtime until late 2019

[@Malidictus]

I'm not sure why people keep comparing Doomfist's Charge to Roadhog's hook when it's most directly comparable to Reinhardt's charge. Yeah, anyone remember that? 50 damage for bumping into people, another 300 damage for slamming them against a wall? Instant death against anything that's not a tank? Yet people don't bitch that Reinhardt still has his own one-shot charge alongside Doomfist's.

[@thekirbycrafter7229]

Malidictus A FUCKING MEN

[@TrashMasterTV]

I honestly believe his ult needs a change. From everything I've seen and experienced, his ult is almost as bad as Junkrats because every avoids it and even if they don't, I've seen alot of squishy heroes live through the damage falloff. It seems like it's just used more for spacing and mobility in a way to get out of situations or knock people off high ground. Idk We'll see

[@drawingspider7798]

Yes, but he is invulnerable during the ult, and you can use it to relocate to a safer position instead, considering how fast you can build it up. And anyway, almost every ult can be avoided in some way or other, why should Doomfist be different? If he can get guaranteed kills while being invulnerable, I demand the exact same thing for Junkrat, Phara, DVa and so on. How would you like that?

[@crunkplaya6929]

This is by far my favorite Overwatch news source because Force doesn't uptalk like an airheaded valley girl. It makes everything so much easier to listen to.

[@mas8705]

Honestly, I think that Doomfist's inclusion works perfectly so far since it isn't like he is completely broken while at the same time, can easily be countered by the opposition since he is rather reliant on his skills as compared to other heroes, especially the offensive heroes. Fight the guy from a distance while disabling his skill usage and you can easily make a Doomfist player regret picking him. Still, can't wait to see how well he does when we finally get our hands on him in the main game.

[@DaBlackX]

Just don't be near a wall, or within 20m of him if Rocket Punch is off cooldown.

[@KodiHammon]

I feel like Mei and Doomfist will have some pretty good synergy combining wall and rocket punch

[@angroid-oy3ws]

the best thing about Doomfist is the fact that Seagull has a new main.

[@Voidward]

Roadhog has the biggest hitbox in the game as is extremely hard to miss. Kind of negates his health. He also has no movement abilities. Doomfist is flying all over the place, has a low cooldown escape, even his ult lets him escape, along with giving him another one-shot ability. Also, hook is an 8 sec cooldown, where as rocketfist is 4. You can literally use it twice as much, and it doubles as a movement ability when you're not in range. "But he isn't exactly the same" seems like kind of a retarded argument. They claimed they don't like one-shot mechanics, then they nerfed one of multiple heroes that has a one shot mechanic, then released a new hero directly after that with a one shot mechanic. I feel like the dev team don't actually know what they want from their game.

[@hudson2228]

Doomfists one shot ability is similar to Reinhardts one shot ability as far as feel, in that its not super reliable. Watching these pros trash on subs in custom games makes it look very easy, when in reality the one shot rocket punch is very finicky, with a lot of people kinda sliding off of geometry on walls and shit. And if their team is paying any attention or has speakers of any kind (the rocket punch is very loud), they'll slam you instantly unless you're really good with his combos. It really is nothing like roadhog's old hook. You have to be smart with the punch, make sure nobody is looking, make sure there's a wall nearby, and make sure you can get the hell out, as oppose to roadhogs whole, "uhh I hooked the guy from inside his deathball and uhhh now he's dead with no penalty to me." Tbh the punch is better and more easily used for mobility, with the occasional sneak kill on a zen or something.

[@wherethetatosat]

Don't forget ults.

[@pie1056]

But he isn't exactly the same. You can counterplay a doompunch- you hear that shit from a mile away and around corners, you can stay away from walls, and you can just jump on top of an object like a car to negate it completely. What warning do you have of the old roadhog hook and what could you do if he landed it? Nothing. That feeling of being able to counterplay an ability is the big difference between fun and unfun, and what blizzard wants to keep or remove in the game, respectively.

[@FourScore460]

Stan V A one shot mechanic that takes a fully charged punch to land and to be smacked into a wall as well. Yup so much one shot potential I can almost feel myself raging. Yes Doomfist can us rocket punch twice as fast as Roadhog but that's only if he tap it and let's it go which nets him absolutely zero mobility. To one shot you need a full charge and a wall which makes that one shot potential one of the worst we've seen in this game yet, and since all Overwatch maps aren't just walls this means that Widow had better one shot potential than Doomfist. Case closed

[@djthebigman1]

+The 4th Solution - There's also the fact that using Rocket Punch literally "rockets" you into danger, straight into the enemy team, whereas The Hook was completely safe. And as said before, Rocket Punch is loud and requires charging, giving the enemy team time to look around and spot you. Rocket Punch also NEEDS a wall to one shot, and even then, it can only one shot 250hp and below heroes. Hook has no warning at all, and if you're caught, you're dead.

[@1un4cy]

0:46 lucio in the outer ring, still gets 1shotted

[@Than211]

I think getting one shotted by his rocket punch probably isn't going to happen all too often, however, that doesn't mean that he can't just kill most ~200HP characters still. Regarding Sombra as a potential counter, she can't hack if she takes damage and her damage is pretty terrible for the most part, that aside, Doomfist can just uppercut out of the way and then just be able to join the fray again with his rocket punch. I'm thinking that Doomfist does have some legit counters like Pharah but for the most part, he's going to be a problem for a lot of characters.

[@lordofthepatrick]

if you want to balance the charge simply make doomfist yell while charging it then people can tell where he is coming from and try to avoid it this way it can still move fast and be somewhat avoidable like a rein charge

[@darkomihajlovski3135]

Patrick Wood wait so he says all his abilities out loud except his charge?

[@Putrefax]

Finally, a hero in this game that's mobility isn't super janky

[@scartioantolare5825]

if Roadhog was nerfed that bad i've no desire to return.

[@ShamballaWatchpointGibraltar]

It took 5min for seagull to become a pro doomfist...

[@lordofthepatrick]

doomfist charging people into a wall doing 200 damage op damn I guess reinhardt ought to still be big in the pro scene as his charge does 300 damage pushes further and he has more health and a shield to help him survive

[@nuggetoffreedom]

a new addition to the dive meta.imagine him,winston and dva.

[@emcdavee]

Thank you for saying that roadhog comparison at the start. Tired of people comparing doomfist to hog

[@Diceux]

They will let him sit on live as is for a while. However, Blizz will nerf him right after the upswing in active players starts to trail off. Just watching some of the random Doomfist videos, his rush down game is a bit too crazy. The "wtf just killed me?" factor will be really high for the players on the receiving end of "the hands" or "the Fist" as it were. The cascade of endless bitching will force out silly nerfs until he is dumpster juice tier.

[@Argon2022]

I think he's perfect right now, his damage makes sense, and in my play time, he never bothered me

[@awrybowtie5591]

I would like to see his ultimate tweaked. He has the only "offensive" ult that grants immunity and you can't interrupt it. I would like to see it buffed slightly to compensate.

[@DaBlackX]

It's fine as is. Since it's a nice breathing room skill. Since no other hero is such an "all or nothing" hero who completely relies on their toolkit as much as DF. He has to gamble a ton.

[@jordanjacquin9177]

What's the music in the background? I love it

[@from_pengu1103]

With all of his mobility, is it too much to put his hp to 200 and allow him to gain slightly more overshields upon successful ability usage?

[@devigradoshyper8649]

i know this isnt about doomfist but i want to watch jo jo bizarre adventures and their is lots of them which one do i watch first in order?

[@dawndastardly]

I really hope he doesn't get nerfed, I love him as he is

[@Krashy2]

I think he is good, not amazing, def not OP. He is awesome and thats what i love. Combos combos combos, once you learn them you are a force to be reckoned with.

[@shudson970]

Want to know how good DF is? I sit in Quick Play for literally 12 hours on the PTR yesterday...trying to learn this guy before he goes live... And don't get to play him ONCE. Because my ping is literally just a tad slower than the insta-lockers. and that is with the game turned to low.

[@contracteddiseases6025]

"How good is Doomfist?" Well, he did just smash a bunch of robotic horses without his Gauntlet, so I'd say not that strong...

[@turtato2155]

I would say lets wait until he comes live

[@chickenwheat6406]

Also, genji would need a buff to compensate because doomfist is genji 2.0 more damage, more mobility, more health, more chances to disrupt but then again genji can slip in and out

[@Jacob-sb3su]

Also, is nobody going to address the fact that Doomfist is Blizzards version of Nintendos Lil Mac?

[@noahsewell9615]

Just Jake *Captain Falcon

[@Jacob-sb3su]

bigboy99 bigboy99 im not gonna argue pver this but his miveset is definitely more like lil macs

[@Void_Sol]

I was going to re-install the game when he releases because I thought he would have a melee like Rien for his weapon but because it is a shotgun I won't I will just wait. I really wanted another melee but it seems that is not going to happen.

[@Moshpitti]

I absolutely hate the fact that he is now the first Hero to literally leave the game when throwing his Ultimate. Every single other ability and ultimate can be countered and reacted to one way or another while it's going down, the players and the abilities are tangible throughout their function but now we have this MOBA guy literally flying into the heavens and darting down at will. Just making it a charged groundslam from any elevation (think Halo 5's ground slam), or a quick jump up high like Pharah and giving him instant 350 health while charging the attack (his maximum shields I believe) would've been perfect. As it stands, it's literally uncounterable outside running away from it, and no amount of limiting it's mobility is going to remove the fact that he quite literally leaves the universe for the duration of the Ultimate.

[@GreenXintent]

The thing about the comparison between doomfist and roadhog is that you only discussed the pros of roadhogs one shot. Roadhog is slow as fuck, easy to see or hear before he becomes an issue. He also has no other CC aside from his hook which is also more obvious that a massive man-bullet from space - zarya can bubble his hook target but she cant bubble somebody before they get one shot by doomfist. Doomfist also has a much shorter CD on his one-shot capable ability. You say it puts him out of position, but he has plenty of tools to get out of dodge. His E and Shift allow him to quickly gain cover or literally scale buildings to get away. Dont forget his ult which allows him to be completely immune and move across an entire map during its duration. Roadhog on the other hand is a walking pinata whenever his hook is on CD - he has no other escape potential and fuels ultimates. Its going to be a reaper/roadhog situation where Doomfist is just going to do Roadhogs job better and nobody will pick Roadhog.

[@Naedox]

Was anyone else concerned that Seagull's CPU temperature was reaching near 80 degrees Centigrade? Because that worried me...alot.

[@nightknight506]

he ia op,he can counter most of the ults with just 1 ability and he can fly over the map while he can 1 shot you with right click and 2 shot you with left click and becomes invincible when pressing q and pharah wont counter him becouse there arent a lot of pharas that know what they are doing below dia and he is instant counter to any suports below dia

[@yobebob7346]

People relate doomfists 1 hit ability like old road hog, the thing is though, road hog is a 600hp tank with sustain. Doomfist rocket punch could use some tweaks to make it feel more rewarding and more fair to the player being fisted lol.

[@Lopo13]

Yobebob it always feels good to be fisted

[@sean6750]

i hope we get a healer next Thats fun to play.

[@DudeRetro]

Sucks he's been nerfed heavily on the ptr, a character like doomfist who is really op in lore shouldn't be nerfed as heavily as he has. Hopefully they up the distance on his rocket punch after he goes live

[@soul-5]

what they did is kind of evident; they made roadhog less annoying, but they felt like the gane needed somethig similar to roadhog's oneshot, so they made doomfist also to satisfy players' hype

[@soul-5]

problem: pharah was already very strong, now she is gonna be crazy strong.

[@MahriKing14]

Video in a nutshell; "dunno lol, let's wait for him to hit the main game"

[@ChrisKeeper29]

Force wants to be this good as doomfist, that's why he put seagulls footage

[@isparrow995]

"Pharah ... She is totally out of reach. He can't get up high enough ..." At 1:22 says otherwise

[@JustJaySama]

Maybe Sombra will get more play to counter him and just lock him up so he's stuck with the pea shooter...

[@whoplays7061]

OMG THIS WHOLE FOOTAGE OF GAMEPLAY CAME FROM SEAGULL!!!

[@bubbleicious6765]

Who Plays yes we know. It says in the beging that this is seagull's video

[@TheJCghost]

He forces people to group up i like it

[@tanasaky]

I'll say this - with every new hero Sombra gets a little bit stronger. Got a buff, counters Orisa, counters Doomfist and so on.

[@ziggyzuggy5791]

Yo Force how did you get footage from a seagull, that must be hard since they are always stealing my chips Also they are pretty good at playing games.

[@Impaler722]

Yeah so many counters it's so easy to hit a target flying super fast across the map and into the air over and over again.

[@GoodGuyNickPT]

Isn't Mei a counter too? I mean, she can just wall him out. Sure, he can jump over her wall, but he's not gonna jump in most of the times, only jump out. but still...

[@chickenwheat6406]

He is like pre nerf genji, combos and burst capabilities

[@Monkey-md9gn]

Doomfists one shot is very similar to reinhardts charge and no one is complaining about reinhardt charge, therefore he's not op in that section and his mobility is very helpful to him but if you make the wrong move with these movement abilities and you can get eliminated fast especially with his rocket punch because even though it's powerful it can easily make him be put out of place, so that's my opinion I feel he's good where he is.

[@Gamechanger_4444]

Blue Biscuit Gaming as someone who has invested lots of time on the ptr over the past 5 days. I have to disagree. Doomfists charge is on a 4 second cooldown compared to rhyn. He gains automatic shield on hit and easily escapes. Does that mean he needs a huge change? No just reduce the cooldown a bit. His shotgun is my main issue with doomfist. His shotguns do a surprising amount of damage and results in easy kills at close range. They are very similar to reapers shotguns per damage. Those probably need to be toned down but honestly is he OP? No. Does that mean he doesn't need changes? No. Just my opinion.

[@Monkey-md9gn]

Kaleb Stohr very true

[@DaBlackX]

You can't reload his fist gun though. And you need to hit with all 6 bullets in order to do decent damage. So they're fine.

[@ShellShock794]

Next we should get a melee healer

[@x_man7567]

I'm feeling I don't need to play him anymore

[@Spika94]

Roadhog was fine before his sledgehammer nerf.

[@MrLuizilla]

I think people are underestimating Rocket Punch. "Oh you can only one-shot heroes if they hit a wall", dude, there are walls EVERYWHERE in this game. Pretty much every single point in Control mode? Surrounded by walls. Tight chokepoints in Payload maps? Surrounded by walls.

[@BkBerkelium]

Turns out he's preeeeeeeeety good.