How GOOD is VEYLE? + Astra Mythic Tier List: Analysis & Builds [FEH]

[@Pheonixmaster1]

Who is your favorite Astra Mythic to use?

[@5577Step]

Ashera. Bringing judgement to flawed mortals.

[@archimedes1355]

Plumeria. Been carrying me in both Arena and AR

[@Greideren]

Definitely Seidr. Future Focused is such a useful skill for Astra and Chaos seasons as well as PvE content.

[@giratinalight]

It's tough since it's between Veyle ashera and heithr but I would say Veyle although I love all of them equally!^^

[@PenguinWithInternetAccess]

I guess Reginn, her uber canto does wonders, and then ashera

[@justaman9344]

Thanks for the analysis! It's a bit funny with how IntSys handles AR mythics. They released Elimine to control B! Catria teams, then they release Freyr after like a year and a half who can directly counter her, and then they release Veyle just few months later to dunk on Elimine even more by having an overall upgraded version of Elimine's C skill.

[@evilhero3297]

Makes me happy to see more engage representation in feh. I really like the support Veyle has to offer, the base kit is already really good from the extra effects she gets, and the fact she color shares with Freyr and L!F!Shez is incredible. I'm very tempted to summon for blue.

[@slateportraichu5416]

Thank you for the analysis=3 I am so glad they are adding more Engage characters=) Wishing everybody, who is gonna try get her good luck=)

[@Cinderace836]

Actually the first dark tome for blue mage was Fallen Delthea

[@melomarianne]

Thanks for the unit and banner breakdown and Happy Halloween!

[@alexanderkashtanoff7006]

Veyle is definitely a pretty good mythic, thanks to her support and Fell Protection prf skill. Also, the blue color sharing is absolutely incredible and has such high value when Veyle is color sharing with L!F!Shez and Freyr.

[@kamer7687]

At least Claude can't run Blue and Colorless Feud at the same time... The Rally Spectrum example is pain though. Not to mention if you can't pull him away from Catria/Cordelia and avoid the quad.

[@thel-iteralone4592]

Oh, so *that's* what happened to dragon Halloween this year all along!

[@TheDjdeath45]

Real question is whether or not she can stop claude, the only unit that really matters atm

[@insxnemxnd3127]

Only info I can give you is that running bride Tiki with her is for sure going to stop Claude (probably even brave tiki?)

[@amanasd26]

her support can assist other units in stopping claude. She doesn"t have the color or the bulk to survive herself

[@richpichu1272]

She can stop claude unless he has Brobin or the unit you’re running has double scowl but you’re still vulnerable to his second hit so E

[@bobwantstobattle9542]

since everyone already answered I'll give you a short one, yes and no

[@frisolaxod3835]

If the tank has scowl and/or guard she does secure to stop Claude in most situations, or at least the first proc of his weapon. If you really don't want him to proc anything with his weapon in any situation (afaik) you'd probably need a combo of scowl + guard which only dragons (and I think V!Takumi) have. In the situation of Rally Spectrum then you'd need to use Bridal!Tiki or H!Duma since they're they're the only ones that can (with Veyle) run triple Scowl

[@esrohm6460]

and now that we have drive scowl and i no longer need to use bridal tiki for all far saving and still use only dragons for my astra save team with coring and spring idunn

[@ArataShizunai]

#Question This November we’re getting L!Dimitri and Plumeria Remix, so i wanna know what kind of refine they’re getting on their weapon and how to make their PRF skill even stronger?

[@adib3011]

Veyle is not just wclaudes rival but also a great friend. The resonance blade and shield is two extra effects for him and halloween anna.

[@bobwantstobattle9542]

Me: She seems like a really good support, wonder if I should summon? Me after seeing the blue color sharing: SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

[@giratinalight]

Omg PM1 being based and using the goated engage ost art of Veyle! So based like it such a nice art Veyle looks so happy!(⁠.⁠ ⁠❛⁠ ⁠ᴗ⁠ ⁠❛⁠.⁠)💖 Thanks for the information for Veyle PM1 as she's my favorite character from engage I really appreciate this! :)💖

[@saizoandoborobestduo6865]

IS really out here trying to get our orbs, especially when we have the ninja banner coming up, but I really do like the dmg and support she has, and the fact there's Freyr and L!F!Shez makes me want to summon even more.

[@Paiguy7]

Really worried about the double 8% in November. Could be the first time they aren't color sharing which would be really scummy and make it very difficult to get both.

[@LPKai99]

Got extremly lucky, pulled Veyle on my free summon with +Atk -Def IV's ^^

[@Greideren]

Thank Naga that my pseudo IP defense team is in Dark season since Veile is going to be a popular mythic.

[@Dakress23]

Tried Veyle in Aether Raids as soon as I got her with both Brave Dimitri and Brave Corrin and holy moly they just did not die no matter what.

[@Kingdramana]

Very nice guessing on the mythics of next month! I am eager for them. Also going to pull for dear Veyle eagerly.

[@georgecompleto5197]

was too early can't comment. also favourite mythic is definitely Veyle

[@veronoobbutpro8710]

after losing 2x consecutive in legendary banner since L alear and L elincia, finally my Veyle comes home after over 230+ orbs 💀 pulling

[@Tsuru8688]

Luck not on your side damn... I got her pretty much under 20 orbs.

[@luojinluoyi9252]

Thank you😊

[@Mene0]

Is Veyle just the best unit to be used with save tanking? I think so

[@jblen]

Well the best unit would be a save tank, but yeah she's the best support for save tanks by far.

[@MaucyStudios]

Love myself some Veyle!!

[@bobthehoboiscool]

Correction: Freyr doesn't get rid of the Gold Serpent's Guard status. He only removes Start-of-Turn debuffs, so nothing from dances, ruses, or anything like those skills.

[@sandervandertol7889]

Today was a good Engage day 😁 I wanted to summon Veyle so bad, and I also wanted another copy of Alcryst. I got both within 25 orbs! Alcryst showed up so fast on my 2nd summon, and Veyle showed up on my 7th 🥳 Absolute insane luck for once on a Mythic banner, and Veyle is just awesome and adorable. My Etie got some well deserved fodder material today from Alcryst.

[@ShadowDekar]

I had shitty luck. In 40 summons only got Alcryst as a focus unit and had to spark for Veyle...still missing Diamant, Felix and Citrinne

[@teko4752]

Really surprising to see Veyle early As a Mythic instead of Legendary in all of sorts. I was expecting her as a dagger first Then as fallen with this tome And finaly the legendary. What it would be great is the Lythic duos staring Nil and Nel as they're draconic forms. But to be fair they're kinda messing with engage units in general.

[@M4SKED2001]

I sniped Blue so hard and nothing. The gacha gods are frowing upon me

[@Pheonixmaster1]

Sorry to hear that man :(

[@tommynguyen5450]

Summoned 20 times and got 3 Freyrs oof lol. Also, Heithr’s Ruse debuffs won’t be cleansed as it is not a start of a phase debuff, but rather during the actual phase if that makes sense, also applies to Smoke skills and skills of that nature. This has been helpful for some units like my Brave Corrin who usually can’t get guard in her kit

[@ikaros6633]

With veyle, my brave marth with atk/spd prime and legendary alear support is now easily one of my best raid boss with ridiculous stats and hardly any weakness. I also enjoy using veyle with brave robin, halloween anna and rearmed grima.

[@oscarorozzie1210]

Imange its not gulveig and kvasir but gulveig and njorer 👀

[@krislee3155]

I have nothing to say for this character, but I'll still comment anyway to support you.

[@sapphyrus]

So Phantom Res works for when Veyle is checking to use scowl for allies? I’m confused with how it needs visible Res.

[@Susanoo_T]

Now I understand why L!Chrom got blue feud. It finally makes sense now.

[@afiron4856]

So Veyel with Timerra’s Scowl will stack??

[@natk205]

Byleth definitely did you a favor given how far Thorr has fallen. Her only means of redemption are her remix and refine. Also, I got Veyle on my free summon. She's so dang cute.

[@SalvaLP22]

Got Freyr on my free summon and then after around 20 orbs got my Veyle. So yeah, I’m very happy.

[@jerryberry8181]

#Question Hey PM1 lots of respect for what do you for the community. Does your back hurt from carrying the community so much? All love and good luck buddy ❤

[@Wyglafff]

I got very very lucky on this banner and got Nanna, Felix, Freyr, 2 Shez, Xander and finally Veyle in 40 pulls. Very happy

[@DarknessDpa]

All I have to find out is who is better, her or Acended Ishtar? (The one with the high attack and speed with an opportunity to attack twice."

[@randomviewer-]

In only 15 summons, I got super lucky by getting both veyle and Freyr. I was aiming for Freyr, but Veyle is nice for the bonus the rotation since I don’t have anyone to properly use her.

[@SeiryuuX]

Wasn't planning on summoning her. Somehow got her as a free unit

[@fenrir3164]

So glad I decided to save my orbs for this banner! Veyle is such a sweet bean…well, on a good day and mindset at least 😕

[@jblen]

Im surprised she doesn't have guard in her kit. The scowl effect and tempo would've stopped most units from being able to trigger specials at all, but as it is a special spiral unit will initiate, get their special put back, get hit by her, and then do the special next hit anyway. They only need to survive one hit from her, which most units can do even with halved DR because its not even a special unless you give her moonbow/glimmer/ruptured sky. Like sure claude can't instant lethality, but he's so fast and has NFU so will most likely double, and trigger the lethality on the second hit.

[@cjt217]

Cannot believe we're getting Ninja Zelgius

[@jackson8541]

I got her on my 1 free summon, plus resistance. I cannot believe I got so lucky!

[@miiko_senpai]

For the double special heroes I think that we will get S!Ashe for the red, ho I hope so but a lot of special red heroes are before Ayra so idk

[@ariellelefebvre]

is she a good support partner to legendary alear?

[@ariellelefebvre]

or is brave soren better?

[@GMStarworld]

She already has DR piercing on her B slot so It is not as powerful but it works.

[@ariellelefebvre]

@@GMStarworld thank you!!!!

[@bastionsmashgaming]

I think Gullveig has the cohort clause in her weapon due to Allegiance Battles, actually! I think she's very much ending up as a dark or anima mythic 100%

[@XennonZ]

Wind claude counter/solution

[@tecfrost4495]

I have yet to play Engage and I've loved the designs of characters that I've seen through Heroes. Veyle imo almost looks like a Vtuber or something and I'm for it

[@Natsu25100]

Ashera is now falling behind by other colorless tomes with support effects out there like Gotoh, New Year Askr, Legendary Guinivere, and Summer Ymir.

[@KevinLi3903]

Tho I feel like Veyle has too many restrictions than it should, I’m glad it does have its restrictions since I feel drive scowl is way too strong of an effect to be left unchecked, tho l!Robin was insane for so long so who knows what IS is thinking

[@tecfrost4495]

Damage Reduction damage... reduction?

[@naotohex]

Wooooo Heidr finally getting the respect she deserves! She is just such an amazing unit and she allows you to so easily break through stupidly bulky teams.

[@apairofsteeltoedboots4729]

I’ve gotten her twice trying to pull L! Shez, still don’t have her after 40+ summons at 10.5% pity.

[@ic3y_]

Thanks for the analysis! And very informative and supportive 🧵you put up recently on Twattir. 💪 Q: Wasn't Seiðr on a banner together with Ophelia, not the Engage roster? For DSH I have a feeling it's way too early to Tea units, they will come up with some replacements.

[@jasonyankovec8541]

I love her damage.

[@NightKnight13]

wow i didnt even notice that all astra mythics are a bunch of cute girls until now haha. can't wait to see who our first male astra unit will be

[@ghable23]

I know tempo 4 could do better than physical null follow up for arcane luin and devourer users and any other whose prf has NFU but I thought tempo stop being relevant within time due to precharging special like vital astra. Tempo 4 seems even worse as the Spd res/def variant would trade tempo effect over NFU while the Tier 3 were getting also the stats as NFU 3 didn't give any. I'm very disappointed on this skill as I thought it would be later and instead of the half DR piercing would double down on tempo effect giving us Null decharge and Null precharge effect.

[@CArkbird]

It was so real when you said they could have done better with Veyle's C slot description. The wording is so poor its just a word salad.

[@shuichichirocks33]

Wait SCOWL STACKS!? *puts Duo Duma back on my team*

[@lumenessente]

so excited for the blue fued claude meta

[@Tsuru8688]

Veyle is so strong in pvp.

[@Plasticsoldier64]

Hope the next month guesses are wrong. I realized I want L!Myrrh for Def / Res unity and have been waiting forever for her to appear. I missed the Hinoka banner, so it has been LONG!

[@Pheonixmaster1]

I am afraid that won't happen. Legendary Myrrh is planned to officially re-run in February 2024.

[@tasty_ham]

kvasir legendary gullveig mythic

[@znerd3664]

"mythics cant use pair up" Imagine thats the nezt mythic gimmick 😂

[@Mene0]

Bruh Altina higher tier than Elimine...times sure change

NO! Red is not good value, don’t pick units that kill my B!Edel… dammit 😢

[@Kuroikc]

Is it or the art of her looks kinda lame or simple

[@JackieWohlenhaus]

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