How Good Was Bobby Jones Actually?

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[@icebag2]

1913 U.S. Open winner Francis Ouimet said of Jones, "In the 1920's I still had a creditable game of golf, but Jones would give two holes per side and he still annihilated me. You have no idea how good he was!"

[@ag358]

Tommy armour said the same, Jones would give strokes and still beat you.

[@nicholasschroeder3678]

His books are wonderfully elegant and interesting. The other guy, very nearly as great--nearly forgotten--but just as interesting was Walter Hagen.

[@MichaelSisley-fw3xr]

Way back in high school I played Walter Hagen Haig Ultra clubs. The feeling of hitting those irons flush with a balata ball? Magical. Yes, Hagan was a colorful and extremely talented golfer. Jones was from a different generation. He was a gentleman. It was not socially acceptable to be a pro like it is today.

[@tv19463]

Walter is the man

[@tv19463]

@@karstenerdinger2167 what a legend

[@karstenerdinger2167]

@@tv19463 He is indeed !

[@nicholasschroeder3678]

@@tv19463 One thought of Hagen's that stuck in my mind and used to good effect when I played competitively is that he expected to hit half a dozen bad shots a round, so he didn't let them upset him. He was the only player of the age who could could give Jones a fair fight. He had panache and chutzpah: liked his wine and women, was fearless on the course, and was sweller than the swells.😏

[@tashawn2222]

What's up with the Walter Travis course shown as the 11th hole at the Old Course?

[@christianolson8543]

“Very few players will hit par before hitting puberty” More like very few players will ever hit par. Period!

[@Pud56]

Bobby Jones was great friends with Cyril JH Tolley and toured the world giving exhibitions with him Tolley was awarded the military cross for bravery, won the French open twice as an amateur, British amateur and was a stalwart of the Walker cup.

[@ag358]

Bobby Jones was indeed a friend of Tolley but didn't tour the world with Tolley unless you're talking about Jones red cross years of 1917-1919 but I'm sure they hadn't met at this point, he met tolley at the British am. No sooner than 1921. Now many players did tour south America and elsewhere but Jones wasn't one of them. He played in British open and Brit am during Walker cup years because it paid his expense for being a Walker cup player. Alistair McKenzie designed a course in Santa Cruz and Jones and Tolley played in a mixed foursome with the opening of the golf course but Tolley and Jones were in the area the play in the national amateur at Pebble Beach .

[@Pud56]

The USGA sent me facsimile letters from Jones to Tolley, where he talks about their exploits inviting Tolley to the Ryder Cup where Jones had his golf cart, first time we Brits had seen such a thing. They were clearly very close.

[@ag358]

@@Pud56 yes, they became great friends with much corespondents, but they didn't tour the world with expeditions. They met at either a British Open or British am. Bobby simply didn't have time for world tours as he competed in many majors each year and was collecting a law degree along with other degrees. After he passed the bar in 1928 he practiced law along with his golf in majors. They played against each other in us opens, the open and both national and. I said Bobby didn't tour the world with exhibitions, he did the red cross exhibitions in 1917-19 in the United States only for the war effort after that he had the two day Walter Hagen match and as I mentioned a mixed one afternoon match to promote a golf course opening while he was in the area for the 1929 us am as was c.t.. I meant no disrespect,I followed bobby Jones history. What I my mind made Bobby great was he went months without touching a club and usually went out and won a major, in 1929, he started to think about possibly winning all four majors in 1930 so he got in shape and practiced a lot more than usual in a early s.e. open he won by thirteen strokes, it should have been eighteen but there was a back up in play and he lost concentration, ty Cobb gave him a dressing down afterwards. Winning by even thirteen in those days was unheard of. Anyway, I apologize if I offended you, I was simply making a correction on golf history.

[@timfoster4582]

Bobby was also great friends with Francis

[@Chazthefurr]

Enjoyed seeing all these photos and hearing the Bobby Jones story but the Ticker tape parade photo was of Ben Hogan

[@michaelblass9789]

For me THE towering figure of golf.

[@timfoster4582]

The best there ever was

[@timfoster4582]

The best ever

[@alandesouzacruz5124]

Amazing player one my favorites

[@Mr.EeToMyself]

Bobbi Jones is actually the "Master" when we are speaking of the tournament that we all recognize easily with the famous Green Jacket. This video does not do him the justice. Bobby is the only person who understood Golf. His swing has such beauty. The rhythm and motion is so simple... Sports Illistrated said he was the most important Athlete since 1900.... Id argue even as far back as Roman times. Please research him....

[@timfoster4582]

He was then greatest golfer of all time, he beat the amateurs and pros anytime. If he had played full time instead of going to school, law school, and 3 or 4 other things he would have set a record that no one would ever touch. Remember too in Those days you took a ship to England and a train to Chicago or someplace. That all took alot of time

[@mkrbrtsn1]

at 4:16 it's Gene Sarazen

[@ClassicGolfSwings]

Great stuff 👍😊🏌🏿‍♂️

[@georgearmstrong681]

13 major wins in 21 majors played. He is the best there's ever been to this point, even better than Jack and Tiger.

[@timfoster4582]

He was the best ever

[@timfoster4582]

And that was playing part time and traveling on steam ships and trains. He was the best there ever was

[@7879386]

Jones competed in 31 major championships. And there were only 4 available , in a year, to him during his career. He was, as a young caddie once said to him, "My sir, you are a wonder!" And he was an amateur.

[@blujay9191]

4:13 .. That looks like Gene Sarazen to me. I could be mistaken.

[@kennethwood3984]

I agree. It's not Bobby.

[@MrDarknesstolight]

great video

[@frankbilotto]

at 4:08 is Gene Sarazen, not Jones.

[@edwardschneider6812]

Coolest accent in American history I’ll tell ya that

[@electricalstuff259]

Imo the GOAT.

[@GaryChavez-nu7uy]

Bobby jones was great and thất era no greed they played for the love of the game

[@Pud56]

Not totally true, Jones and Cyril JH Tolley toured the world giving exhibitions, both were independently wealthy and refused to turn professional, preferring to remain gentlemen golfers, they did however receive expenses and what effectively amounted to sponsorship. They were amateur in name only

[@LaLaLand11111221]

So getting paid expenses for exhibitions makes them professionals? At that rate current professionals will be parasites.

[@stevefoote7451]

Don't forget Gary, the P.G.A Tour didn't exist at that point and there was NO money to be made as a professional. I guarantee if he could have played in today's environment were you can make a million plus per victory, him would have turned pro. He contemplated turning pro anyway even with no serious prize money available. He loved playing golf.

[@ag358]

Those exhibitions were the red cross tour supporting WW1 1917 or 1918

[@allend2749]

well, jack nicklaus said they never played for the money, just the win and jack never lies.

[@ag358]

Im sure this video touches on the fact that Bobby didn't touch a club for months and then went out a won a major, he earned degrees and won majors and practiced law while playing. In 1929 he entertained the notion if winning all four championships. So he tuned up for the season with a couple southern tournaments, as one person already commented Bobby won the se tournament by thirteen strokes and could have been more he was up by eighteen ,there was a slow down in play and lost concentration double bogey last few holes to win by 13, which was crazy in those days with that equipment, bobby said ty cobb gave him a dressing down for not stepping on their neck, Bobby couldn't tell ty he lost concentration ty would've really got him. After climbing mt Everest of golf he retired at the ripe old age of twenty eight years old. Get bobby jones movie shorts How i play golf they are fantastic with i believe the first slo motion swings being shown along with other innovations. Bobby played in the era of no lift,clean and place on the green. Definitely great.

[@timfoster4582]

He was the greatest golfer that ever lived bar none

[@ag358]

@@timfoster4582 yes he was

[@hugowilliams1988]

yes

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[@beaupridemore9775]

Life was drastically different then to now.

[@btjh8391]

Captions?

[@partybhoy1967]

No part of this tells us how good he was. It's just a biography of Bobby Jones.

[@RippyClippy]

76ers All Time Great

[@colindakers113]

It’s The Open - not the British Open

[@jamesbaine580]

The fields are too full of good players for anyone to dominate like that again, although Tigers run was impressive

[@TheSawyerMeta]

I don’t think this comment will age well. Give it 5 more years, according to distribution statistics the more better players there are the more likely someone who can dominate more than anyone in history given a large enough field. 😊

[@jeffee1933]

Talk about kicking a dead horse

[@stevefoote7451]

In 1930, Jones played in a few 'tuhnaments' to ready his game fer his attempt at da Slam, which he planned and mapped out in late 1929. One of those 'tuhnaments' was the Southeastern Open, a professional event, played at Augusta Country Club, and Forest Hills, a famous old Donald Ross I grew up on, and at one pernt in time, owned the course record of 64 at. In said aforementioned 'tuhnament' which featured Horton Smith, who won two out of the first three Masters tuhnaments, Jones won by THIRTEEN SHOTS. It was a 72 hole event, 36 at each course. Him was quoted as saying "it was the best golf I played that year." Easily the best golfer in the history of the game.....as a PART TIMER. In those eight years you mentioned, he won 4 U.S. Opens, three British Opens, a British Amateur, and FIVE U.S. Amateurs. Keep in mind the fact that he didn't cross the pond EVERY year to compete in Britain. It truly is staggering. Whilst going to three different colleges, starting a family and practicing law. Three years to finish a four year degree at Georgia Tech, same ting at Harvard, only three SEMESTERS of school required to pass the bar. B.M.F'er.

[@ag358]

It's scary how good he was and you're right when he did practice he was unbeatable.

[@timfoster4582]

He was the best ever

[@timfoster4582]

Could not have said it better

[@UnearthlyKiss]

He was quite something, wasn't he!!!

[@garymalone547]

Keep the heel down and restrict the hips. Otherwise exemplary.

[@benwood7132]

Imagine trying to give Bobby Jones swing advice 🤣

[@bobt5778]

He needed a long free-flowing swing to compensate for the flexing and twisting properties of the wooden shafts he had to play.

[@darrinlygrisse5287]

LOL.

[@darrinlygrisse5287]

Great advise if you want to destroy your back. You might want to talk to Jack Nicklaus and Sam Snead as well. 😅😅😅

[@Whatzzzz999]

Ha ha take a peek at Jack Nicklaus...

[@johnalessi5724]

a poor little rich kid who had no real competition

[@987654321wormy]

Haters gonna hate...

[@Bigum99]

Brits were no competition?

[@Mr.EeToMyself]

@johnalessi5724 Just give that old club there a swing.... it's just like his. It's surely not hard. Look how easy it must be. If I had the chance that he did... All equally the same as crying about how a kid was no good, and yet better than anyone still. And to be loved for being honest is amazing to me.

[@timfoster4582]

@@Mr.EeToMyself He was the best ever

[@timfoster4582]

Shame on you he was the greatest golfer who ever lived and a really nice kind man

[@chrisbarras3908]

8 majors in 7 years. INSANE good.

[@georgearmstrong681]

He won 13, not 8.

[@timfoster4582]

And that was playing part time, traveling by train or ship etc

[@tfostercrx]

Looks like Joe Cole in the thumb pic