How GOOD was Groudon ACTUALLY? - History of Groudon in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 3-7)

[@ironman-uc7ek]

Groudon: The king of the ground Primal groundon: Ground is its only weakness...

[@Salnax]

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[@gnammyhamster9554]

Except for goulduck's hydro pump

[@bohanxu6125]

"the king of the ground?" mixed primal ogre: "hold my bear"

[@shiennohajime1495]

@@bohanxu6125 *beer

[@catherinestickels2591]

I used the groudon to destroy the groudon

[@hammdogporkington3058]

11:32 Kyogre using Earthquake to beat Groudon "I used the stones to destroy the stones"

[@kingwoomy8781]

Ha

[@bwackbeedows3629]

@@kingwoomy8781 Ka. Me. Ha. Me.

[@1ksubscriberswithnovideosc484]

Charge Beetle ha

[@zescreaminmoose1821]

When you plant weed in the ground and then use earthquake vs Groudon I used the stone to stone the stone

[@haiderpoetryandnasheeds6301]

*I used stone to stone the stoned stone

[@beebobber546]

Gamefreak: alright guys we need to make the Hoenn trio incredibly overpowered! First off let’s give Groudon a fire typing. Employee: but it will be x4 weak to water? Gamefreak: ..... let’s get rid of that completely

[@Dz73zxxx]

Original : make hay when the sun shines GF : *make primal groudon when the sun harshly burns the planet*

[@bitchd7839]

Tbh Primal Kyogre isn't incredibly op as its Choiced sets. The only reason why Primal Kyogre is more viable is because it can cancel Primal Groudon's weather. If P-don gets banned, Choiced Kyogre would be the king of ubers again, with mixed Primal Kyogre only appearing from time to time. Primal Groudon and Mega Ray are definitely overpowered though.

[@boomburstgaming3727]

Employee: brilliant

[@GIR177]

Why are Game Freak and its employees separate? lol

[@koishikomeiji3888]

It's not completely gone. Rayquaza (and Golduck but good luck with Duck) can ignore Desolate Land's water shriveling.

[@Grandflea02]

As a Great man once said: "The only real way to beat primal groudon is to scare it off, but good luck striking fear in a guy who strikes fear into 71% of the planet's surface"

[@secondace9495]

rainbow bambi and sky lizard:

[@agentblackbird9435]

If you’re talking about the planet’s surface, isn’t 71% of it the oceans? Idk, maybe I’m just misremembering something

[@wakingdragon7538]

@@agentblackbird9435 Kyogre

[@jacksonsmith2955]

@@agentblackbird9435 in the gen 3 games the main plot revolved around groudon trying to dry up the oceans and kyogre trying to flood the contintents

[@gamesnig]

cloud nine golduck:

[@CritsuKirby]

The legend. The monster. The thing that's on EVERY Ubers and Unrestricted Team.

[@skiffy8121]

and then shuckle comes to fuckle up the strongest mon

[@skiffy8121]

@Mordecai Israel shuckle has custap forretress's help with toxic spikes, youd have to play carefully to avoid those to begin with, if you can get a sub up without being toxiced, then yeah shuckle will be fuckled

[@GIR177]

Technically Arceus has the highest usage, it's just that all of its formes are counted separately.

[@williamhuynh869]

@@GIR177 too many arcei

[@CaptainMantine]

Ah yes! The legend Kyogre!

[@Mr.Sh1nyHunter]

Dynamax Groudon is going to be a threat ... for mankind

[@deezmodsonly1497]

for legit reasons.

[@joshuakim5240]

Ah Dynamix...yet another new gameplay mechanic in pokemon that's going to almost exclusively be used to give more broken overpoweredness to already broken legendary pokemon to the point of monotony just like Mega Evolution and Z Moves instead of their intended purpose of varying things up.

[@galarianblades5674]

Mr. ShinyHunter Primal Groundon Dynamax

[@toadgatter7512]

Dominic Anderson Omega ruby story restarts

[@johnpaulmacasaet7375]

dynamaxed mega ray counters groudon. xD

[@matteussilvestre8583]

It's over, Anakin! I have the Primal Groudon!

[@mewtationssb]

You underestimate my power!

[@toadgatter7512]

I don’t like san- wait wrong scene

[@sayvionwashington1939]

Anakin: You underestimate my power! *Sends out Golduck with Cloud Nine*

[@fernandoguillenperez7686]

@@sayvionwashington1939 critical *precipices blades* destroys golduck

[@stevenmattrell3448]

M Silvestre You underestimate my Primal Kyogre

[@nickluckman1872]

Can we talk about how when people use "less optimal" special Primal Groudon, it has "only" base 150 special attack? Ridiculous.

[@BigLoloFrmDaO]

Yeah I'm surprised he didnt mention the Rock Polish Eruption set

[@melancholicthinker9291]

Gen 8 gives us Physical Kyogre and Special Groudon

[@baszko6152]

@@melancholicthinker9291 Kyo i Gro to each other. " STOP COPYING ME!"

[@squidgysquid7856]

Melancholic Thinker physical kyogre is already a thing with liquidation eq

[@melancholicthinker9291]

@@squidgysquid7856 yeah and special Groudon runs Eruption/Overheat, and at times Earth Power and HP Ice

[@NerdX151]

Game Designer: "How strong should I make Primal Groudon?" TPC: "Yes"

[@waterboy126]

YES YES YES

[@dustin3294]

water boy 12 YES YES YES YES oh my god

[@Magic_Ice]

P.Groudon: ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA

[@birch3]

Mega Rayquaza: Am i a joke to you?

[@JohnZ-]

@@dustin3294 YES YES YES, JoJo reference

[@albertorios2491]

Hi False Swipe Gaming, Alberto Ríos here (Panamá Special Event winner), thanks for the mention in the video and i love Groudon ♥️✌️

[@banisco6394]

@Super Greyflash Aí sim doido

[@DavideKuras]

One year passed but gg!

[@user-wh1uc4qi7y]

@@banisco6394 um br aqui olha so kk

[@DarkPurpleDude]

Talking about how Kyogre and Groudon go at it against each other in Ubers weather wars is probably the most accurate the Pokedex is going to get.

[@thedecafe1]

😮

[@mattfry6716]

Loki: I have a Primal Groudon. Tony: We have a Golduck.

[@Alexandre-gg7qd]

Cloud nine op

[@goldreaper9283]

That means next week hopefully it's How Good was Golduck Actully?

[@thewhiteninjaminington8953]

This is the most genius thing that I’ve ever seen

[@M3rtyville]

I used Psyduck with Eviolith in VGC 2016

[@mattkarge]

Cloud nine doesn't work on pg/pk, I've tried believe me

[@TT-hw6ie]

Groudon: *Jumps* Metagross:AW shiet *Dies*

[@Dragrath1]

That animation from XD Gale of darkness was probably the most awesome thing in that game so monumentally glorious and terrifying

[@JoshuaTheTransitProdigy]

😭😭😭😭😭

[@doubleace11554]

1:47 *F*

[@sm-yu7dt]

Here we go again

[@angterrastriker]

YEE

[@demi-femme4821]

Arceus: "I'm the most powerful Pokémon in Übers!" Primal Groudon: "Please allow me to introduce myself."

[@dumpsockpuppet5619]

Mega Rayquaza *[Laughs in Anything Goes]*

[@zeno1099]

Mega Ray **~laughing by being in a higher tier~**

[@coot33]

Fun bro : exist Every other Pokemon : I want to get out of funbro's wild ride.

[@Alexandre-gg7qd]

Arceus ground would like to have a word with primal groudon

[@zeusoi2854]

Arceus: I'm the god of ubers Primal Groudon: hold my evaporated beer

[@StickMaster500]

When Groudon got it's Primal Reversion, I could hear it laugh in the face of Primal Kyorge as it's Water moves evaporate into nothing

[@HardGuess]

Until Rayquaza destroyed it with waterfall

[@vladtepes2667]

I hope we get more primal forms for fossil pokemon

[@worshiperofthelegendarypig9429]

@@vladtepes2667 that... Makes no sense, Groudon and Kyogre have primals because they created the sea and land and are now dormant. So they would need to be more powerful when they were doing stuff

[@whydoiexist2180]

@@worshiperofthelegendarypig9429 primal bidoof

[@solaimanshahriar6202]

Only 21 minutes? I was expecting this to be 2 hours long.

[@bitchd7839]

Wait till Kyogre's video. It's been the king of ubers for three and a half gens unlike Primal Groudon's one and a half so it should be longer.

[@TheBornageFobbie]

Would have been if he named normal placements instead of just worlds

[@alkaspoon9282]

To be honest I was expecting that too

[@sayvionwashington1939]

This isn't a GameXplain analysis video

[@HeilRay]

I took the extra time to go out and watch Godzilla King of monsters. Movies apparently not doing as good as hoped.

[@paulbatut842]

I remember in vgc2016 when, in order to underspeed Kyogre, Groudon was level 49

[@alsparkproductions7849]

Why tho?

[@fulgenzio89]

And then Kyogre was level 48, and then Groudon level 47 and so on until they were both level 1

[@MisterSleep1123]

@@fulgenzio89 the usual is at level 50. Only nutkobs go for level 49 because of the lack of power.

[@cooperm4185]

@@fulgenzio89 you can't have Kyogre/Groudon lower than level 45

[@Marcusjnmc]

@@fulgenzio89 no, kyogre never went below 50, groudon made up for the lost power with swords dance

[@MakoShiruba]

Groudon is what many backyard kids believed Charizard was: Boosting for a Turn and then Earthquake'd everything not inmune to Ground and if it was, Burn it.

[@curts7801]

“Quake and Burn” is the mantra for many kids playing Pokémon. Can’t blame them. It’s satisfying and it works.

[@past874]

Groudon, the Pokemon that can cause droughts strong enough to dry up entire oceans. Wasn't a fire type until gen 6.

[@M3rtyville]

still waiting for Lugia to get a form with water typing

[@shutup1037]

well he made land

[@solismax65]

@@M3rtyville yuck x4 electric weakness. Nah he’s fine how he is

[@Vichola]

@@solismax65 just give it a electric immunity

[@woomynation]

@@solismax65 you talking smack about moxie dragon dance gyarados?

[@ElectroBlastLuigi]

*Kyogre wasn't covered yet because it's still swimming around in Alola with Lana.*

[@TheAdventuretrainerRuby]

Yay, someone is watching sun and moon😎😎

[@M3rtyville]

it heard she lied.

[@SharyK-_0]

I watched till 80 episodes

[@spacejunk2186]

And it actually happened.

[@shockwave3648]

The guy with 6 Primal Groudons on showdown be like: “Hi Noob, use good pokemon”

[@bustin1946]

the garbodors: hey

[@coldore6734]

You cant use 2 of the same Pokémon in showdown

[@urhsusnikvrecic1478]

@@coldore6734 you can in AG

[@coldore6734]

@@urhsusnikvrecic1478 oh cool didnt know that

[@urhsusnikvrecic1478]

@@coldore6734 yeah, but i doubt its even worth knowing, since AG is the dynamaxed mega rayquaza tier with 12 YOs packing multiple arceuses per team

[@matthorseirons6791]

9:08 - RIP Fairy Types (Before Fairies Existed)

[@piers1796]

I may prefer Kyogre, but Groudon was an amazing Pokemon and I'm glad it still is.

[@magicmagikarp7425]

same i prefer kyogre but groudon is *AMAZING*

[@myheroandmadaralover2372]

@@magicmagikarp7425 i love all three

[@fernandonguyen1197]

These two are the defining metagame in the golden days

[@USSFFRU]

@@fernandonguyen1197 Now they did the great switcharoo

[@GygasDistruttore]

Groudon powers up Cherrim. Therefore Groudon is ok in my book.

[@Kristalya]

Cherrim is so cute and unique 🍒 she needs love from Game Freak 🌞

[@ronswanson7371]

@@Kristalya yes 😊

[@permabanter7770]

This comment eating well this week

[@arhkadian2389]

groudon has been one of my favorite pokemon since gen 3, to see it reborn in gen 6 was awesome.

[@thedecafe1]

My favorite 🤩 legendary Pokémon.

[@thedecafe1]

😅

[@claymathewselevator8121]

Ruby was the first Pokémon game I ever played

[@stevn2827]

How good was chetsoberry actually?

[@briankim1098]

Lemonade HP THIS! I’d love to see an item series FSG!

[@rossthemoss6827]

Oran berry best item hands down

[@penapower894]

How good was everstone actually?

[@krosshair450]

This is a great idea!

[@polypolar715]

Lemonade HP How GOOD was Pretty Wing ACTUALLY??

[@pujo1227]

Looking like pokeaim's uber road to top 10

[@matthewsun6374]

Pujolly I really liked how Joey gave groudon some loved, he’s so underrated!

[@CubeBizz]

Lmao

[@xDoctorxFaustusx]

I always liked Groudon for its kaiju looks. ...Shame its actually not as big as one like how the anime always depict it.

[@andrevanderlinden8722]

Crow the BOOLET venomothra isnt huge either unfortunately

[@kazoorion7993]

Crow the BOOLET I think Colosseum and XD does justice to it's size despite the size restrictions.

[@wanderingrogue3039]

Dynamax!!!

[@beta511ee4]

Crow the BOOLET Isn’t it, like, 11 feet tall?

[@Dz73zxxx]

Meanwhile its counterpart...legend says that Kyogre resembles an expensive aquarium fish

[@salthesalmonshark6849]

I used to have dreams as a kid where Groudon lived in my closet. Not really nightmares, just Groudon chilling on my closet and I panicked because I couldn't find my pants.

[@jackofspadesman]

Hey, thanks for the shout out (Jake Magier here!) Groudon was awesome and will always be awesome. You should do Volcarona sometime soon ;)

[@TheDiego908]

Gotta love how each VGC gen gets exponentially more anime

[@thedecafe1]

😅

[@fatfuck2384]

Groudon was my first legendary Pokemon. I'm glad it's such a beast

[@octoslut]

lol braa its OP now days, just hope gamefreak are not dumb enough to give it dragon dance.

[@XO_Hikari]

@@octoslut oh no

[@octoslut]

I have a tiny wee wee but no what??

[@XO_Hikari]

@@octoslut if it gets dragon dance I'm ded lol

[@octoslut]

I have a tiny wee wee but lol yeh but game freak is not too bright when it comes to balancing

[@Rich.p126]

Ubers: *exists* Primal groundon: *hello there*

[@seaside503]

Everyone in ubers: General Groudon!

[@pirateclick1d169]

yeah yeah same thing every year I'm already on the list

[@MightyMobileMatt]

Everyone in Ubers; "You are a Bold one!" Primal Groudon; "Actually I'm Adamant."

[@tonyflynn1801]

"History shows, again and again, how nature winds up the folly of man" - Blue Oyster Cult

[@calebelbrock3156]

Godzilla: I'm the king of monsters Primal Groudon: hold my precipice blades

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

You want Groudon to die, don't you?

[@andrevanderlinden8722]

Alejandro Hernández yeh groudon would 100% lose. Godzilla is like 5000x its size

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

@@andrevanderlinden8722 this is what I think are the right Groudon's measures of height: Normal Groudon: 60 meters tall Primal Groudon: 80 meters tall Now Godzilla's size: Godzilla (2019): 119.78 meters tall Conclusion: Groudon, if you want to live, you better kneel before your King

[@dumpsockpuppet5619]

@@alejandroelluxray5298 good idea, crouch to eat his legs

[@iaxacs3801]

@@andrevanderlinden8722 That's why you Gigamax it. Also Alejandro you should've looked up heights cause Groudon in Primal form is only 5 Meters tall

[@nathanf1149]

I'm so sorry you had to do all this Kellen...

[@heartofthefluft8541]

Don't be sorry. I think he loves to talk about the Pokémon's competitive scene, and he will be taking a rest eventually.

[@nathanf1149]

@@heartofthefluft8541 it's just a meme in he patreon discord

[@shawnli4746]

Can't beat the 25 minute script for Mewtwo in which he was talking like twice as fast

[@researchinbreeder]

You: kyOGre NeXT Me, an intellectual: Kyogre in 2 mo. so the trio is evenly spaced.

[@alexandradordzhieva3835]

@Student Rohan Joshi The fact that you wrote "b" instead of "be" really triggers me.

[@samd2612]

@@alexandradordzhieva3835 Don’t b so angry

[@alexandradordzhieva3835]

@@samd2612 Noooooooooooooooo *dies*

[@samd2612]

@@alexandradordzhieva3835 r you okay? I don't want you to b dead

[@alexandradordzhieva3835]

@@samd2612 No I'm dead

[@ThumberBulls6]

>How good was Groudon ACTUALLY? Haha haha hahaha this is a joke video right? Haha right??

[@chendror872]

Answer: Really good

[@DivadRovert]

@@chendror872 Correction: Omnipotent

[@chendror872]

@@DivadRovert all hail the red dinosaur of doom

[@murlocmaster6192]

My ditto crushes groudon!

[@darkrose8328]

This would just apply to any of the weather trio lets be honest

[@okaten3522]

I love Groudon's Gen 4 sprite because it looks like he's mad at his best friend for stealing all the chips at a party. He looks like he's saying "Yo, dude, what the hell? Why'd you go and eat all my chips?"

[@oodogla]

Tyranitar's gen 3 sprite is similar and I really like them too.

[@finchinator990]

You could say Primal Groudon made the VGC & Ubers tiers a Desolate Land

[@aryksnag1935]

DiceH Indeed!

[@xavierberton4714]

Corny

[@Vinlie]

Groudon also made an appearance in the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games, don't forget. He played a pretty substantial part in RRT and Explorers of S/T/Sky

[@thedecafe1]

😅

[@JB-bc2ry]

Last Week's Gen 3 Ground Type: Good for all of one Gen, then Trash. This Week's Gen 3 Ground Type: Good for all of its Gens, never Trash. If I may quote: "Of course, interesting manuever"

[@raver-kun2035]

I've been waiting for this video, and I was not disappointed, Thanks FSG team

[@thedecafe1]

😮

[@thedecafe1]

😮

[@iamcarnitas]

I've been so excited for this episode! My favorite Pokémon!

[@thedecafe1]

😮

[@uigpoe]

Ive been watching these videos since the Charizard episode and I just knew you would make it this far one day. Kudos to a fantastic series that the pokemon community DESPERATELY needed.

[@thedecafe1]

😮

[@thedecafe1]

😅

[@jonathanrogers959]

The way I see it, kyogre is surrounded. What's under the ocean? That's right, more earth.

[@itsninjaboy7985]

It's cool that Groudon was delayed and uploaded on the same day I caught it in Omega Ruby

[@thedecafe1]

😮 lol 😂

[@stupidhead_2812]

I'm really happy that Groudon has always been fantastic. He's one of my favorite legendaries and has a special place in my heart

[@thedecafe1]

😅

[@sirtimothy92]

Dynamax Mega Rayquaza: *exist* Anything goes: "GET OUT!!"

[@superhappygamer1162]

No megas in Gen 8!

[@spiritflame8453]

@Super Happy Gamer! so far...

[@spiritflame8453]

@@berrycool3433 yeah I know

[@XLRATEable]

Oh boy i wonder what next weeks pokemon i gonna be! 🐟

[@shanem8957]

Casper Fransen magikarp?

[@HintedImage]

Clearly Wishiwashi.

[@snakeywakey3893]

@@HintedImage That thing is OP. It makes Mega Rayquaza look like a joke.

[@Mayank-mf7xr]

wailord ?

[@XLRATEable]

You are all idiots it will obviously be "How good was REMORAID actually?"

[@darianclark3980]

I used to thought Groundon was part Fire when I first saw it. Anyone else who agreed with me?

[@nixuniverse5240]

When I was younger I automatically thought every Pokémon’s type was based on their color. So when I first saw him I thought he was Fire because he was red.

[@voltingmaster5458]

Darian Clark I thought so to, Which made it hilarious when Gamefreak added the fire typing to its primal form!

[@robertharris6092]

Same. Emerald was my first and only pokemon till i playex x and y. And i used to always think groudon was always ground fire.

[@royhe3154]

7:59 The lack of "Sorry if I butcher your name" pained me.

[@doubleace11554]

18:45 *M E N A C I N G M O O N R A Z E M A E L S T R O M*

[@alexandermcmillan8056]

Groudon, the face of sun in Ubers. Man what a beast.

[@lecanoscoptical3455]

Groudon's tiny hop in the Sonority games is adorable and I hate having never seen it until now

[@thedecafe1]

😅

[@aa7146]

Who's Groudon? Don't you mean *walking barber clippers*

[@jaschabull2365]

Mega ampharos: Uh-oh.

[@alexandradordzhieva3835]

@@jaschabull2365 It's super effective!

[@mx.e2176]

Kyogre will flush him down a really blue toilet. If you understand the reference, you’re very cultured. The reference is Terminal Montage’s Legendary Pokémon Battle Royal

[@1AMdoesSomething]

Mr. E *screams in Terminal Montage*

[@Magic_Ice]

bork Volcano explodes

[@nikc101]

Mr. E i gotchu

[@Plainguy8]

Bah! Bah!

[@fallenchao]

Entei: bark

[@officersoulknight6321]

Primal Groudon; 4x weak to Water Also Primal Groudon; *n o*

[@MrFabioxz]

I’m always sooo happy if i see that u posted a new video!! Keep up the good work!! And i just find out after watching u for almost 1,5 year that i wasn’t subscribed!! From now on u have 1 extra loyal fan!

[@omegafuzi0n479]

Something about the way you explain all of this is super captivating, it made me sub

[@aroobism]

Another great video by fsg In other news grass is green

[@richman6974]

Not where i live, Only trees are green, everything else is yellow

[@aroobism]

Rich Hernandez ok well then trees are green?

[@richman6974]

@@aroobism yes

[@jaschabull2365]

Rayquaza Is Green.

[@funninoriginal6054]

@@jaschabull2365 *laughs in shiny*

[@NanaKyoto]

If you thought Primal Groudon was titanic, wait until Generation VIII.

[@ZakanaHachihaCBC]

Shiro-Luna assuming you can Dynamax it.

[@Magic_Ice]

Dog with Sword vs Godzilla that made the Continents.

[@Mr.Feather130]

*Godzilla Intensifies* Milo:Oh My Gosh run!,its Godzilla! Sonia:it looks like Godzilla but due to copyright laws,it wasn't Milo:we still had to run away from Godzilla! Sonia:no it isn't (Both run away in fear)

[@sophiawilliams8650]

L

[@toadsagejacob7896]

@@Mr.Feather130 nice to see someone else saw that movie

[@balloonperson1115]

Can't wait to see just how terrifying Water Spout Kyogre was

[@thedecafe1]

😅

[@davionblackburn9318]

Welcome back, FSG!!! 🎮😎🎮

[@thepredator4207]

I have been waiting for this video for sooooooooooo long and it didn't disappoint

[@thecathat2725]

Roses are red The fan seems to be on Im running golduck Only for groudon

[@Alex-wd8en]

Just some day's ago I fought a primal Groudon for the first time ever. Seems like solar beam on Groudon doesn't go well against mirror coat Milotic

[@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283]

Well yeah. Milotic is a special wall afterall

[@chamber8234]

Yes! Groudon is by far my favorite Pokémon ever ❤️

[@thedecafe1]

😮

[@ilovedogs2642]

Omg yes been waiting for this one for ages!!!! Thank you

[@seangalvin672]

finally! ive been wanting you to do groudon for the longest time

[@supersmashbro596]

you know what would have been a neat mechanic for the blue/red orb in the remakes? if making kyogre hold the red orb or groudon hold the blue orb would cause them to act as if they were traded pokemon you don't have badges to train, regardless of your actual badge count.

[@oodogla]

That would be awesome

[@johnnyblocks7956]

1:27 it’s also what decides the weather here in Florida

[@shade08538]

PREACH THOUGH 😔👊

[@henriquecarballoaranha9100]

Who would win? The embodyment of the geosphere or One clueless quacky boi

[@jinxcurse6113]

YESS YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME

[@milkman8878]

Been waiting a long time for this, thanks

[@bdt2002gaming]

It's scary to think that the banning of Mega Rayquaza may have actually made Primal Groudon slightly worse in Ubers than when both were allowed at the same time.

[@MasterlyRex8789]

Huh? Yeah absolutely not. Primal Groudon is one of the few Pokemon Mega Ray scares out so easily. You’re in the very uncomfortable position of wanting to switch out against Mega Ray. Except switching against Mega Ray is one of the most dangerous things to do.

[@bdt2002gaming]

@@MasterlyRex8789 My rationale behind this comment at the time was that Primal Groudon tended to match up well into Pokémon that were good into Mega Rayquaza, or at least as good as you could be. Stuff like Xerneas, certain Steel-Types, heck I’ll throw in Mega Gengar for good measure, all lose to certain Primal Groudon variants.

[@wilhelmsarosen4735]

I never understood how Groudon could go toe to toe with Kyogre in the story, given their typing......

[@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283]

Lore does not equal gameplay. Otherwise lugia couldn't be the master of the kanto birds.

[@Lauren_C]

@@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283 In the anime, Groudon fought Kyogre with Solarbeam. In competitive, Primal Groudon tends to have the overall advantage against Primal Kyogre. Reason being that while Kyogre is effectively neutered in the sun and is forced to fall back on Ice Beam for damage, Groudon's Precipice Blades is still astronomically powerful, sun or rain, and gets STAB. Thus Groudon is still a very threatening foe in heavy rain.

[@wilhelmsarosen4735]

Libra The beautiful War Monk Well, it has multiscale, so it should be enough for it to strike back :)

[@wilhelmsarosen4735]

Lauren C But isn't Primal Groudon good as dead in the rain though?

[@andreescalona8902]

@@wilhelmsarosen4735 2 years later: no. Kyogre's STAB moves get cancelled in harsh sun, while Groundon's ground STAB can still hit it. So it's safer to switch Primal Groudon into Primal Kyogre than the other way around

[@surite2573]

How Primal-Groudon hasn't been moved to AG I don't know

[@christianwai1796]

It holds the tier together. Xerneas and primal ogre would skyrocket fi you banned pdon then you would have to ban them too. Then the mons kyogre keeps in check rise and so on. It itself is not broken in that way that it forces a specific teamcomp but if you took it out pogre and xerneas would cause they would wreak havoc

[@stevenmattrell3448]

I remember catching Groudon in Omega Ruby. I used a Gyarados which made two of Groudon’s moves useless (earthquake and precipice blades) due to Gyarados’s flying type and made two of Gyarados’ moves useless (hydro pump and dive), due to desolate land. Leaving lave plume and rest as Groudon’s only usable moves, as for Gyarados, it could only use crunch and ice fang.

[@otakufreak40]

Groudon was my first legendary since Ruby was my first game. It had a lax nature and the reason I remember this is because before I checked its summary page I didn’t even realize natures were in the game. I decided to look it up and found out that Pokémon was a much more complicated game than nine-year-old me could have ever possibly imagined.

[@thedecafe1]

😅

[@smievil]

my first game was red, i carefully taught my charizard ember, flame thrower, fire spin and fire blast. worked like a charm as a kid.

[@PokeRetroFan]

Thank you!!! My favorite pokemon. Also it seems this may actually be the best Pokémon overall period

[@blackpow3r]

Mega Rayquaza is the best pokemon. It's the only one that's banned from even Uber tier lol

[@oodogla]

@@blackpow3r not anymore.

[@leekyonion]

Do you think you can add the Pokemon's nature to these sets? It'd be great so I can build these in the future! Thanks :)

[@thedecafe1]

😮

[@arminxvs3372]

Mine had also Solarbeam. With Drought it could use it immediately and screw up some Water ennemies. As a kid it felt like a genius move haha ^^

[@thedecafe1]

😮

[@luissantiago5163]

Didn't know about this channel. These vids are hype. You've earned a new subscriber. Keep up the great work dude!

[@Chrisboy265]

This isn’t the video we needed, but it’s the one we deserve. Thank you FSG, very cool!

[@frozenlettuce293]

Groudon, the thing too strong for everything. Godamn

[@The1_Static-X_Fan]

Groudon was also a good challenge in Explorers of Darkness/Time

[@thedecafe1]

😮

[@fadeddragon123]

Imagine if in the remakes of gen 4 the dragons got the primal treatment

[@Choomba78]

):

[@renegade6578]

Welp.

[@valet2972]

Yeah…they should have..

[@parad0x765]

The 2nd legendary pokemon I ever saw, years ago I had got like a small magazine showing the anime sizes of Groudon and Primal Groudon, ever since then I fell in love with the design(primal Groupon is satisfying for some reason), even though not my favourite competitively(I still somehow try to make it work in gen 9), one of my favourites in design for all time. The first pokemon movie I watched was Jirachi the wishmaker, Meta/Virus Groudon's design ws just amazing.

[@JayDayX116]

Groudon, kyogre, and rayquaza are still the best box art legendaries. They felt so powerful and looked so iconic.

[@-MankoMan]

4:37 Garchomp: oh, he's coming, HES COMING, what do i do? Trainer: eh... Just, die. Garchomp: NANI DA FFAAK?? *Dies*

[@ShadowCoH316]

Kyogre is teased to be next but every time there's a trio is gets broken up so I'm expecting something else entirely.

[@olympusgolemoflight7198]

If it happens, it will be Jynx.

[@MrSpartanspud]

I always forget how fast Groudon is.

[@octoslut]

base 90 slow until the damn thing uses rock polish

[@smbroos8316]

And then? What happens? ​@@octoslut : You prey.

[@elmatias7922]

I really like Groudon for the design and also because he is a monster at the competitive thanks False Swipe, I was really waiting for this video

[@ganning1174]

I'm not into the competitve Pokemon scene, but your informative documentaries are adored by this subscriber. Have a like.

[@danielribeiro3252]

Can't wait for the 1 hour and 20 minutes Deoxys video!

[@rossthemoss6827]

Deoxys base - not deoxys attack or speed Deoxys attack - definition of a glass cannon Deoxys defense -...50 hp :( Deoxys Speed - the hazard man

[@sarasaland4709]

So is Kyogre next or will something random like Stantler delay it?

[@KeizerSosebee]

Look what you gonna make happen now. Don't put ideas in the minds of bored gods

[@UltraAryan10]

*How GOOD was Butterfree ACTUALLY?* I will keep suggesting it for the sake of the butter less butterfly who did not even got a mega.

[@mithenmedina540]

I've been awaiting for this.

[@smeltstarverse7306]

Gen 3 was my first Pokemon generation, and Ruby was my first Pokemon game. I always loved Groudon. Though I've never really been into competitive Pokemon, I'm glad to see my boy doing well competitively