@NBA ZONE 72-10 is the second-best record in NBA history, not the ten. LOVE THE VIDEO!!!!!! MJ GOAT!!!!!!
@conservativefolk72485 жыл бұрын
I like the video and subscribed but have some criticism. Your narration is very well done and well researched, but you show multiple highlights that have nothing to do with your current narration in the video. Match the two up and it’ll be great.
@massdagod5 жыл бұрын
NBA Zone Jordan retired after his 6 championship and retired for 3 YEARS. Not 2 years like you said several times He missed the 99, 00 and 01 season. Please do the correct research before you make vids like this
@iig23104 жыл бұрын
AiKhan the 96 bull's in this soft era probably don't lose 5 game's
@iig23104 жыл бұрын
Steve Jobs both are facts but make no mistake about it, Pippen was vital for both 3 peat's and was Jordans only all-star teammate in 4-6 championships.
@Almostyours5 жыл бұрын
“ I take what the defense gives me, Mike takes whatever he wants “ - Scotty Pippen
@timerban36465 жыл бұрын
That's cute if only he had consistently faced the athletes of today on the perimeter and faced zone concepts where he could consistently get double and triple teamed. He was definitely fortunate to have played for a franchise that surrounded him with great defenders who were selfless offensively and he was also fortunate that all the teams that kept pushing his shit in that actually had championship experience got old and retired. Those teams he faced in the finals were some of the worst teams to ever win the western conference.
@feelcollins43584 жыл бұрын
@@timerban3646 You think he wasn't consistently double teamed or triple teamed? My dude gets double teamed more than MyPlayer on 2k 😂. 5:33 In that sort of situation I guarantee LeBron would pick the easy way out and pass the ball but MJ has so many creative moves that he can do that all day. Yeah I agree he was fortunate to be surrounded by 2 great defenders at a time, Pippen and Grant/Rodman. They were never "selfless" offensively though it's just how they play 😂. Read what that guy said “I take what the defense gives me, Mike takes whatever he wants" - Pippen. Basically meant he's an opportunity scorer unlike MJ who CREATES opportunities and scores. "Selfless offensively" means something like an extra passer. Grant was basically a defensive rebounder who was not as good as Rodman. Also keep in mind when Rodman joined Bulls he was like 34 y.o and not as great defensively as during his Detroit years, his rebounds were still insane though. All things said MJ never relied on them on them to avg 25+ pts or close a game unless he was insanely triple teamed, only then he'd pass the ball. Unlike LeBron who had to have Ray Allen save his ass after he bricked, which he later then got PTSD flashbacks of that moment in Cleveland and handed the ball to Kyrie to close out the game. When the Bulls had a rematch against the Pistons, they were around the same age as Jordan with Bill Laimbeer being the oldest at 32 or 33 so I have no idea what you're talking about "those guys who had championship experience and beat him before got old and retired". That's just an example of modern media brainwashing right there. The worst team Bulls faced in the finals were the Lakers with Magic Johnson and it was actually the Bulls' first finals appearance where their team wasn't as complete as the next few years. Other than that they faced great teams in the finals even though they obviously weren't as great as superteam GSW with KD, because in 90's as the Bulls got more experience they BECAME the 90's greatest superteam even though most of their players consisted of defensive players. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJysf4xqqqeflaM
@napolitano9154 жыл бұрын
@@timerban3646 i hope you're 10 or 11 years old..if not ,you're stupid
@markalterado884 жыл бұрын
Tim Erban misguided and ignorant. He got triple teamed hard and trapped hard many times. You’re an actual idiot
@SancquoQT4 жыл бұрын
@@timerban3646 Oh jesus...This is a paul"I am better than dwayne wade" level idiot. This boy thought that the detroit pistons and EVERY OTHER TEAM didnt triple and double team MJ I legitimately thought which player is this guy's favourite, possibly Zaza?
@strawhatz26895 жыл бұрын
i am glad i was alive to witness his greatness.. MJ is the Goat...
@potentially__94455 жыл бұрын
strawhatz 26 I’m telling you!!!!
@BigDaddy-ei8ks5 жыл бұрын
Thank u for the compliment!!!
@Sejr04205 жыл бұрын
strawhatz 26 i grew up right down the street from the UC on Madison st during the bulls 90’s run. It was a major part of my childhood. So thankful i lives to see the bulls play. It’s not the same watching it on KZbin. These kids don’t know what they missed.
@Piripiao_YT5 жыл бұрын
Lucky guy, if only I could've watched him play
@armandodelossantos7365 жыл бұрын
Olajuwon was 11-5 against Jordan between 84'-93!
@credewernke23425 жыл бұрын
Jordan in 92-93 was the perfect mix of athleticism, intelligence, competitiveness, skill, and dominance. No one else even compares.
@AnHebrewChild4 жыл бұрын
Agreed 90-91. Peak athleticism / super hungry / and more finely-tuned than 80's MJ)... 92 Jordan was stronger in the post / fade-aways / and still *highly* athletic, but in the Bulls' first championship season the world saw, what is imo, the perfected version of a perfect basketball player in Michael Jordan.
@AnHebrewChild4 жыл бұрын
Max Jacob Ishimwe - I can't _disagree._ For me, apex was 91... but also not going to sit here and argue against 89.
@donaldallen91834 жыл бұрын
Amen
@davidca964 жыл бұрын
@@AnHebrewChild Yea in my opinion, he was physically perfect in '89 but wasnt peak mentally. He became both in the 91 season and just kept going, but he did lose a small amount of hops after his comeback but became even better at everything else that it didnt matter. 91 was when I think he had the perfect balance of both mental and physical ability. Just my opinion of course.
@shelikesgrey69403 жыл бұрын
Facts
@JayZoop5 жыл бұрын
Once Jordan weight lifted, he was unstoppable. He was not as bulky and tall as Lebron but he was crazy powerful.
@teamdeo63135 жыл бұрын
Speed quickness super energetic
@paulpiatt68875 жыл бұрын
And bigger hands 👋
@paulpiatt68875 жыл бұрын
23kDollahz Do I really need to explain why big hands are an advantage in basketball? Educate yourself about what Phil Jackson, bulls head coach said about MJ’s advantage with his exceptionally large and powerful hands.
@paulpiatt68875 жыл бұрын
23kDollahz u ain’t ever strung together a coherent thought or argument?
@cq_el74095 жыл бұрын
I can't argue when my channel is Roblox.
@deflandre82865 жыл бұрын
Title is "how good was mj in his prime" and movie is about his whole career. This is so accurate.
@JayyVee415 жыл бұрын
Deflandre 😂😂😂
@jcjc2484 жыл бұрын
It lasted that long that's why...Go watch Bronny..
@corkystorky4 жыл бұрын
@@jcjc248 watch bronbron's 3-6 no thanks
@mchutube4 жыл бұрын
MJ was in his prime during his entire Bulls career
@subhub69684 жыл бұрын
lots of inaccuracies here
@AHMAD-23245 жыл бұрын
In his prime and in his second repeat of a 3peat I've never seen anything like him PERIOD. Not just in basketball but not in any sport EVER. That man was SIMPLY AMAZING!!!
@ben1ben2ben15 жыл бұрын
He was definitely better in the first repeat
@copyrightstrikez_bandit1434 жыл бұрын
Ahmad2423 what got me was Jordan never let u down. He always put on a show. It was like watching a movie, u knew how it was going to end. Jordan hititng the last shot & Bull's winning the championship
@slashbxe28324 жыл бұрын
@sumanth chowdary no one cares about cricket its a sport for nonathletic people
@identifyyourself56844 жыл бұрын
@@slashbxe2832 hahahahah that was great
@slashbxe28324 жыл бұрын
@@identifyyourself5684 what
@jpjp42815 жыл бұрын
michael jordan is the greatest of all time no doubt.
@marioguti98875 жыл бұрын
Nor since, despite several players copying his moves
@chinohall93985 жыл бұрын
No he isn’t!
@AHMAD-23245 жыл бұрын
@@chinohall9398 So who's the best then?...
@robjames41605 жыл бұрын
@@chinohall9398 Yes he is!
@MGeezydaWarrior5 жыл бұрын
No question
@edge12475 жыл бұрын
1988 Jordan winning MVP DPOY 35 ppg is absolutely terrifying
@armandodelossantos7365 жыл бұрын
That was really Olajuwon's dpoy! Olajuwon recorded at least 100 steals and at least 200 blocks every year for 13 seasons while averaging 24p and 13r!
@vlbinladen30195 жыл бұрын
@@armandodelossantos736 yea but 200 blocks and 200 steals in 1 season is great aswell.
@armandodelossantos7365 жыл бұрын
@@vlbinladen3019 yeah and Olajuwon is the only player in history to do that too
@armandodelossantos7365 жыл бұрын
@@vlbinladen3019 Jordan never recorded 200 blocks in a season
@vlbinladen30195 жыл бұрын
@@armandodelossantos736 i meant a 100 blocks as guard is great thats something to take into consideration
@lock5145 жыл бұрын
One of the things that made Michael Jordan the greatest NBA player of all time is the fact that he made his teammates play better
@timerban36465 жыл бұрын
I love how Jordan gets credit for the Bulls front office's work. I'm sorry Jordan made his teammates better by doing what?? Sucker punching Steve Kerr?? Being a ball stopper on offense?? By genuinely being an asshole towards people?? He certainly didn't look to get his teammates involved offensively and he shouldn't get credit for how hard other players try on defense... It was the front office that brought those guys in and those guys put in the work themselves but of course they have to try to give Jordan all the credit so they can keep selling those shoes...
@NoName-gv6nm4 жыл бұрын
@@timerban3646 he averaged more assists per game than almost any SG ever. Go watch some footage of him collapsing defenses and dishing out incredible passes for assists. You're just a hater bud.
@copyrightstrikez_bandit1434 жыл бұрын
lock514 Jordan is indelible. We keep talking about Him despite being retired since 2003. True legends never die like tyson, ali, etc. Their games and matches age like fine wine
@mskidi4 жыл бұрын
@@timerban3646 Jordan was playing mostly off the bal from as early as 1987. At some point he was averaging a 3.30 minutes with the ball in his hands for a whole game. You must be talking about some other player, your favorite one perhaps that Jordan fucks up in every facet of the game.
@DINER00003 жыл бұрын
@@timerban3646 all of what your saying have literally been the reason why his teammates became competitive and why he infused that type of dominance and energy into his teammates. So yes he has been a great asset to his team, without Jordan on their team their tenacity and competitiveness to win games would have been more than divided by half of what it was.
@UnsignedMusiczPromotions5 жыл бұрын
He was so good he won a 3peat, retired, and came back to win another 3peat without losing.. nuff said
@suntansuperman265 жыл бұрын
He was like I'ma dip ya'll better get what ya'll could get because when I get back I shutting it down again.
@MVSkrazywhytboi5 жыл бұрын
He actually lost to the magic when he came back but go ahead 😗
@timerban36465 жыл бұрын
But he did lose... He got his ass kicked in 95 so the Bulls superb front office landed him another lock down defender and hall of famer in Dennis Rodman. Jordan was surrounded by selfless team oriented players that didn't care about the offensive spotlight they just did what they had to do to get the job done and they never get the credit they deserve because casual fans only look at PPG stats and highlight videos and come up with misguided fanboyish conclusions that show their ignorance about the game.
@geraldgreen9195 жыл бұрын
@@timerban3646 Coming back from not playing pro basketball after 1 and a half years probably had something to do with why the Bulls lost.
@timerban36465 жыл бұрын
@@geraldgreen919He played for months before they got eliminated that's a weak excuse.
@basha88365 жыл бұрын
So basically Prime Jordan was every season he played in from 80s to 90s?
@amoonpoint5 жыл бұрын
Ba Sha yes and should have been MVP each full season that he played. No individual player was more valuable to the success of their team.
@solemagus47615 жыл бұрын
I'll keep it 100. it was 86-93 Now he was still pretty damn good his next 3 peat tho. Especially in 98 he played the season with a Broken index finger and didn't tell anybody until the retirement press conference the 2nd tie arorund. He put up 46%fg which was Kobe's season high
@fatboy59265 жыл бұрын
Sole Magus this is true. 96-98 he was still the best player who relied on his IQ more than any other time in his career but his physical prime was the first 3 peat.
@solemagus47615 жыл бұрын
@@fatboy5926 facts. his Intelligence at that later 3pt was really nice to watch. especially how he conserved energy and played a lot smarter
@fatboy59265 жыл бұрын
Sole Magus people say MJ couldn’t shoot the 3.... he never really did. When he did he shot it well. Playoffs and finals when he did use it more he shot it very well but the only 2 seasons that he did shoot the 3 (and only counting the original 3 point line distance) in 1990 he took 3 attempts a game and shot 37.6% and in 1993 he took 2.9 and shot 35% no other season (again with the original distance) did he take more than 1.5 per game. When he wanted to utilise it he did
@kaospat41735 жыл бұрын
well in Washington he was still a legit All-Star at the age of 38 thru 40 and played all 82 games his last Season averaging 37 minutes a game...let that sink in
@timerban36465 жыл бұрын
Well when you take two multiple year long breaks in your career you will stay fresh that way. Too bad he didn't bring Scottie to lockdown the other teams best player or Rodman for offensive rebounds when Jordan was bricking all those shots or maybe Jordan wouldn't have lost more than he won and actually made the playoffs or something.
@josephweber25025 жыл бұрын
Wow Tim. Lebron jumps teams and picks his players. You cant he serious? You know how many titles if lebitch wouldnt of jumped ship? Zero!
@sappel14785 жыл бұрын
@@timerban3646 Yeah, because I am sure he really cared about taking care of his game so he could "stay fresh" the year his father was murdered. Saying this is probably futile but, just say you like Lebron better... it's okay. Don't go at someone on a video that is literally about them because of it. If you don't like him, don't watch!
@timerban36465 жыл бұрын
@@sappel1478 No I'm against the idea that against way better competition on a global stage where talent from all around the world plays that hes gonna put up better numbers today then he would have then that's a lie
@sappel14785 жыл бұрын
@@timerban3646 I forgot I even watched this video, let alone commented. Tim, don't know why I bothered in the first place. Seriously though, If you do thats truly fine. Either way, it seems like a waste of your own time to watch something about someone you don't seem to like. Enjoy your week!
@floridagator17655 жыл бұрын
It was an honor to see him play in his prime. 🐐
@kcire-tv3wy5 жыл бұрын
Yes it was!
@ericduncan74214 жыл бұрын
His whole career was his prime lol he’s the goat 🐐 and it’s not even close
@christianr19414 жыл бұрын
@@ericduncan7421 lebron and magic are close
@kfl164 жыл бұрын
Trippy gameing nah bruh Jordan is on his own tier
@christianr19414 жыл бұрын
@@kfl16 nah bro lebron, larry, magic, kobe, and Kareem are close. Mj the goat but to say they are not near his level is ridiculous
@tesaract5 жыл бұрын
The eye test tells you Michael Jordan is the GOAT. But it wasn't because of his above the rim game. It was for so much more. MJ should stand for Medium-Range Jumper. That bread and butter served him so well even when he lost a step. There was no where on the court where he wasn't ruthlessly efficient. His post game was too good to guard. He was arguably the best 2 defender of all time. His vertical leaping ability was unmatched. He used both hands with close to equal proficiency. Real men feared him like no other. They knew they could not beat him. That's part of the eye test that is often overlooked. How the other team looks in the face of MJ. As stated by David Stern when he gave MJ only his 3rd MVP award, "You are simply the standard to which basketball excellence is measured." That was in 92 before he had even won his 2nd title. That statement in relation to MJ, may never change.
@johnruggiero42055 жыл бұрын
It’s not even close. The dunks & buzzer beaters was great, but his will, displayed time and again in this video, was super-human! His drive, & genes combined to create the ultimate GOAT. He so synonymous with greatness the best surgeon or trial attorney in the world is referred to as the “Michael Jordan “ of his or her field.
@kfl164 жыл бұрын
Facts bro
@angienatoyn5 жыл бұрын
Dude was a machine.
@PoliticallyAffiliated4 жыл бұрын
6:28 he was def not thinking " i cant believe im doing this" He was thinking "i told you man, i dont shoot threes, but i can"
@kristianpetersen75624 жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯, a reporter challenged him before the series due to Clyde the Glide's three point shooting. His response was a six for seven three pointers 1st quarter in Game One.
@Rezzylite5 жыл бұрын
Drexler said you get lucky if you get a steal on Jordan because most good players have 3 or 4 go to moves, he said Jordan had 9 lol
@timmaz24s5 жыл бұрын
Chrisper07 now today most players have only one.
@at21305 жыл бұрын
LeBron has none
@brendagray49584 жыл бұрын
@@at2130 😂😂😂
@datsumcrzysht4 жыл бұрын
Alex Tafoya You’re wrong, you forgot about “The Flop”.
@craigcampbell18434 жыл бұрын
Jordan was so good that when he didn’t like how his team was performing he would just beat the other team by himself.
@hectorbatang30235 жыл бұрын
Isiah Thomas was so bitter about MJ's talent. So much for creating his own legacy.
@stephenclarke84495 жыл бұрын
That's why he was left off the dream team he's a hater
@ericgurganus51935 жыл бұрын
Isiah**
@hectorbatang30235 жыл бұрын
@@ericgurganus5193 thanks, i got the spelling wrong haha...didnt notice that
@ericgurganus51935 жыл бұрын
@@hectorbatang3023 you good probably autocorrect
@Fabulos15 жыл бұрын
Thomas was mad because he is from chicago, and everyone was saying mikes name in his birthplace.
@JayZoop5 жыл бұрын
That first play is the best play that I have ever seen in basketball. Not only did he spin around two guys, he only took two steps to accelerate and jump over Ewing.
@MarkSmithhhh2 жыл бұрын
That has to be the most humiliated Ewing has ever been...just dirty
@BloodReaper955 жыл бұрын
If he never retired, he just could have 8-peated possibly even up to 10 chips in a row, and 10 fmvps, thats just ridiculous.
@kingwizop78135 жыл бұрын
of the pistons didn't have the expansion happen they wouldn't have broken up and Jordan wouldn't have had 1 ring
@xavierlopez70965 жыл бұрын
Lets not overreact..
@BloodReaper955 жыл бұрын
@@xavierlopez7096 overreacting? Not even close. Others not just me agree on what I said, its just the facts!
@xavierlopez70965 жыл бұрын
ICE KING 100 I know MJ was the goat but 10 straight finals is pretty insane even for MJ. Don’t forget he took a year off in 94’ so he got a break to rest up to go after his second 3peat. Look don’t get me wrong I would have love to see greatness like that but in my opinion 10 rings in a row would have been out of reach.
@BloodReaper955 жыл бұрын
@@xavierlopez7096 Nah, if he didnt retire in the middle of his career he would've have 2-3 more chips.
@Lanse19845 жыл бұрын
Thing is Jordan never left his prime until his second year in washington. Even the first year before he got.injured was averaging over 25ppg
@natedablack78575 жыл бұрын
Oh, he left his prime alright. 2nd 3-peat MJ wasn't nearly as explosive as 80's/early 90s MJ. And that was CLEARLY evident. What he was during those seasons, however, was more mentally sharp/methodical. He learned how to pick spots and carve up defenses with geometrical precision. There was no wasted movement whatsoever. He only tried to exert his physical prowess in spurts, instead of going all out, all game.
@popeyeisgood5 жыл бұрын
@@natedablack7857 yea pretty obvious decline in athleticism for those who observed his entire career. but his fundamental had never left him all the way til he finally retired. during 96 he was quite a bit slower than 89-93 self, but still probably the top 3 in speed and quickness in the sg position during 96-98. his finesse in layups had declined quite a bit since he started lifting weight. he used to do really crazy shit ( like double/triple clutch jump shot or insane hang-time layups with multiple adjustments in the air) in regular basis up until maybe 91 when he started to bulk up. still from 91-98 he probably had more quality acrobatic layup highlights than lebron will have in his entire career when lebron retires. but with that said, he was still being able to super explosive in 98 season. one of the examples i still remember is how he blew pass a young allen houston in his last game as a bulls against ny, when there were about 8ft distance between the two of them while jordan was standing still facing a defensive ready houston. he took off to his left and completely drove pass houston like he wasn't even there. i havent seen lebron or kobe being that quick when they were 33. the difference is that jordan was not only able to put his head down following his first step dribbles with his big hand, but he was also moving his feet far better at old age compared to the so-called super stars of today. he was able to go around someone with quickness instead of bulldozing his way into the defender's body.
@timerban36465 жыл бұрын
When your usage rate is stupid high and you shoot a bunch your PPG should be high.
@raurman49465 жыл бұрын
@@natedablack7857 He's physical prime was gone by the time he was 32, but MJ had an unsurpassed balance of mental and physical capabilities that lasted him until his body gave wave at 40. I'd say that MJ was his most dangerous at age 33-35. He knew when to take his foot of the gas and when to put the peddle to the floor and knew exactly where to be and what to do and had complete trust in his teammates. Kobe learned that very late in his career and looks like Lebron will never learn.
@solo72535 жыл бұрын
If he wasnt past his prime, why did the wizards suck so bad. Oh yeah, he wasnt averaging 25 in Washington when he got hurt. However he was putting up 22 shots a game n making 9 of them at 22. something points a game.
@marcusaureliusantoninusaug21615 жыл бұрын
MJ in his prime was absolutely absurdly good. Not just the stats, the winning, but what he did on the court and how he did it. Totally insane, most games in the late 80s looked like a pro baller against a bunch of semi pros, that's how dominant he was in every aspect of the game.
@eracer3505 жыл бұрын
He retired to go play baseball because nobody could stop him. He then comes back after a hiatus and is still just as dominant. Unquestionable goat imo.
@blackkeys83073 жыл бұрын
Big facts ultimate dominance
@ΕΥΑΓΓΕΛΙΑΓΕΩΡΓΑΡΑ-ν6ι3 жыл бұрын
18 years have been passed since his third and final retirement and we stil love wathing MJ. That says a lot.
@doccentralstation25925 жыл бұрын
That first move was the Nastiest move of all time. He hit starks and Oakley with the Smity then dunked on Ewing ..
@slimaintplayan5 жыл бұрын
I seen that highlight a million times and still say damn every time I see it, lol
@dmv1185 жыл бұрын
Nah, the nastiest is the reverse against the Nets in '90-'91
@brandonpharis14805 жыл бұрын
Slim Aintplayin Did them dirty
@joeblack84185 жыл бұрын
Agreed! A master at work! Pure art! It was wavy or something! Almost superhuman! No other move has ever come close to that! If you don’t believe in God you will after you see that move!😳
@jerryheaton93224 жыл бұрын
Doc Central Station this move is what I always go to when people wanna compare athleticism. This play makes MJ the best athlete that has ever played.
@joeyc71055 жыл бұрын
MJ was rob imany times in the MVP award
@casanovaaaxx91765 жыл бұрын
DragonKing23 facts. But Jordan showed him in the Finals
@pauloaustria77985 жыл бұрын
So Lebron 2007, 2011, 2014 LBJ should the have 7 MVPs.
@pauloaustria77985 жыл бұрын
If this your case CP3 should the beat Kobe in MVP race in 08 and Shaq should the beat Steve Nash in 06.
@hittman235 жыл бұрын
Joey c because sympathy to other players lol
@ricklozano504 жыл бұрын
@@pauloaustria7798 he no longer plays defense that's why he hasn't won it in 7 years
@GeneralFrance115 жыл бұрын
Only thing I don’t like is that the footage doesn’t rep the season described at all times. GOAT
@momoneylessproblems91835 жыл бұрын
How good was prime Michael Jordan? Imagine the archetype of the perfect basketball player. Imagine how high this archetype's skill level is. Now double it. That was prime Jordan.
@zik7445 жыл бұрын
04:38 the most insane move in Sport history. Look at the reaction of the adversary team bench
@subzero3083 жыл бұрын
That bench was finna pack it up and hit the bus to head home 😂🤣... Jordan was a different animal.
@blackkeys83073 жыл бұрын
They tried so hard not to react 😂😂😂
@lilhandsome94963 жыл бұрын
nigga h say sports history are u drunk
@troliskimosko2 жыл бұрын
@@lilhandsome9496 fuck you talking about
@DrSlasher2 жыл бұрын
I'd put Dr. J's out of bounds shot ahead of it
@jonathanparks1075 жыл бұрын
Michael Jordan is definitely the greatest player to ever play the game that's just a fact and all the records show it
@squaredcircleathletics71525 жыл бұрын
What do you mean 'just like Kobe Bryant?' He (MJ)was first...
@leokennedy45575 жыл бұрын
squaredcircle athletics right
@edentaylor2115 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@akuzikechipasula33035 жыл бұрын
My thoughts as well pal
@maxpatana91575 жыл бұрын
Slip of the tongue😂😂😂😂
@stevencoardvenice5 жыл бұрын
It's for the kids that didn't grow up watching jordan like we did. He retired 21 years ago
@larrynunez87655 жыл бұрын
The "Shrug" was MJ saying "I told ya so", cuz prior to the series people were saying Drexler was the better overall player because MJ "couldn't" shoot 3's, he responded by saying he chose to not shoot 3's because it takes away from HIS game, which was driving the lane and pressuring the defense, he also felt shooting 3's made players lazy and they would get into the habit of staying around the 3 point line. He used that series to prove to the world that he could indeed shoot the 3 and that HE was the best overall player on the planet.
@kcire-tv3wy5 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@larrynunez87655 жыл бұрын
@@kcire-tv3wy I kinda felt sorry for Drexler though, because Drexler never said anything, the media gave MJ the fuel and motivation to go out there and destroy Drexler, I bet after that series Drexler was like "Ya'll need to STFU, I have to guard him, not you!" LOL
@Jadulinchannel4 жыл бұрын
In today’s game, watching NBA games are like watching 3 point contest 😅😅😅
@tracoes5 жыл бұрын
Far better than anyone in the league today
@copyrightstrikez_bandit1434 жыл бұрын
Chuck Daly quote: "He's literally embarrassing the league. Watch those Olympic collegiate exhibitions vs NBA Stars circa 1984. Nobody on those NBA teams was comparable to MJ's talent, defensively and or/offensively. Jordan was already the GOAT! Bobby Knight's collegiate team won all exhibition contests vs NBA talents.
@elgee36525 жыл бұрын
Before entering NBA he was already considered as one of the greats.
@alexzapf64224 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing a story. A scout, I believe it was Bobby Knights son, called him and said. I have just seen the greatest player ever to play basketball. Jordan was playing in a game were the best college players played. Bob knight said you mean in college. He said no. On any level. How prophetic.
@djbhe5 жыл бұрын
I grew up on the southside of Chicago and had the pleasure to see MJ's whole career and I always tell people the best MJ was the early years 1984-89 because he was so athletic he would make NBA players look like kids.
@rankarat5 жыл бұрын
86 to 93
@armandodelossantos7365 жыл бұрын
1992 was the best I've ever seen Jordan play. Right after he started to bulk up from lifting more, he was phenomenal that year
@rushrush12095 жыл бұрын
How often did the opposing guard outplay Jordan in his career? Maybe only a handful of times. Then again maybe never at all.
@armandodelossantos7365 жыл бұрын
@@rushrush1209 it depends on what you mean by outplay. Jordan was going to be the best scorer on the floor every single night, but sometimes his scoring wouldn't be as much of an impact as what his opponent was doing like defending, distributing the ball or rebounding. Sometimes his opponent might have helped his team more than Jordan which doesn't always show up on the stat sheet
@antoinoewing29965 жыл бұрын
You know what?I've said that a few times but i think he also got more surgical and percise as his game got older,hence,the post up and fade away shots,more long and mid range shots and less penetrating to the hole.
@Rubberbandman05294 жыл бұрын
Yeah, even after all these years, still the greatest I’ve seen. Ultimate competitor, unbelievable athleticism, unstoppable on offense & 1 if the best defensive players ever. I can’t see anybody ever passing him
@alldayk80685 жыл бұрын
Dang soooooo he did all this in 14 years? People still debating who the GOAT is 🤷🏾♂️
@tearealdavis22125 жыл бұрын
All day K against nobodies tho
@alldayk80685 жыл бұрын
Teareal Davis Knicks Pacers Jazz Trail Blazers Rockets Pistons Celtics Lakers And some he stopped a lot of greats from getting rings
@tearealdavis22125 жыл бұрын
All day K he didn’t stop no greats in thier primes tho . Instead they was stopping him in the first round 8 times !! Smh
@Bruh-pb5os5 жыл бұрын
@@tearealdavis2212 charles barkley, karl malone, ewing, stockton, reggie those guys have no rings cause of mj.
@Bruh-pb5os5 жыл бұрын
@@tearealdavis2212 when did mj lose the first round 8 times, he lost 3 I belive.
@MrChrismlamorte5 жыл бұрын
Imagine todays players having to play in Jordans time when hand checking was allowed? LOL! In todays NBA if u have bad breath and breathe on someone its a foul. Truthfully theres really no debate to be had. MJ is definitely the GOAT
@flufychickens5 жыл бұрын
Yes.... and you can thank MJ for the league for being so soft these days lmfao
@peterstark45625 жыл бұрын
@@flufychickens lol can u show me a video where he flops? Early 2000's NBA is still physical. It's that ugly incident in detroit that started this cupcake era.
@flufychickens5 жыл бұрын
@@peterstark4562 mj got phantom calls. Tim donaghy even said that refs were told to just blow the whistle when mj went In a crowd. Mj only shot about 100 free throws a game.
@Tippotipo5 жыл бұрын
@@flufychickens Wrong. Thanks the league for making NBA soft. MJ was also targeted by the referees when they wouldn't call fouls for him because he could score anyway. Note the league chose to focus on the offensive part of MJ plays while overlooking his defensive gameplay as a guard. Let remind the league was so desperate to find the next MJ for decades they softened their own rules to increase the team score thus favoring the perimeters. Lets face it, MJ performed much better in a tough NBA current players never faced. You just chose to have selective memories to fit your arguments.
@flufychickens5 жыл бұрын
@@Tippotipo not saying mj didnt preform well. But he always had refs on his side, the nba loved mj so they wanted him to succeed. But the mj era wouldn't have happened if he wasnt so good.
@SidJustice15 жыл бұрын
Prime...he was never out of his prime.
@DuckHunterGaming5 жыл бұрын
Only his second season on the wizards after coming back from injury was he out of his prime..
@SidJustice15 жыл бұрын
I don’t even count his years in Washington...that was just him “playing for the hell of it”.
@copyrightstrikez_bandit1434 жыл бұрын
SidJustice1, true lol. Ron Artest said guarding Wizard's Jordan was harder than guarding prime Kobe and prime Lebron. Artest aka Metta World Peace never guarded prime Air Jordan. insane
@ssfouryou5 жыл бұрын
It's not even debatable that Jordan is the GOAT...….Its just the way it is.
@grosskopf27795 жыл бұрын
Nope
@brendagray49584 жыл бұрын
@@grosskopf2779 YEP
@grosskopf27794 жыл бұрын
@@brendagray4958 The answer is No. The GOAT was Wilt Chamberlain and offensively the GOAT was Magic because he could play 5 positions. The Greatest Marketed person World Wide EVER was Michael Jordan
@brendagray49584 жыл бұрын
@@grosskopf2779, ok we have can have difference of opinion. I'll stick to mines. Cool 😎
@grosskopf27794 жыл бұрын
@@brendagray4958 OK.
@boons325 жыл бұрын
The Unquestionable GOAT 🐐
@trustno10645 жыл бұрын
Not true, he most known player, they all great in their own way they all did great things , all had flaws this is an NOT A FACT THEIRS NO GOAT
@solo72535 жыл бұрын
Unquestionable 🤔. Pretty sure Wilt Chamberlain dominated basketball more than any player ever n it's not even close. Look it up. N if ya wanna bring up titles then I will reply with this. Michael Jordan was 0 for everything without Scottie Pippen. 5 seasons n 5 losing records. N if ya dont like that, let me know n we can go look at their careers as a player.
@josephweber25025 жыл бұрын
You're talking about jordan now winning a title without pippen? Was he supposed to win with no help at all? Name a player who did that ever?
@solo72535 жыл бұрын
Nope. I'm talking about how Jordan never played on a winning team without Pippen. If Jordan was so good. How come every season without Pippen, his teams finished under .500. I'm not talking about winning championships without Pippen, I'm talking about finishing .500 or better without Pippen. The bulls won 57 games & th ship n 93' n then Jordan retired. They won 55 games in 94' without him. To me Jordan made good teams great but he couldn't make a decent team good. Take a look at what Lebron did in his first stint in Cleveland. 7 yrs, 6 playoffs, one finals, a 66 win season, a 61 win season, 6 seasons above .500. All while Anderson Verajoa was the second best player on the team. Definitely no Scottie Pippen or even a Phil Jackson. No player before or since has dominated the game of basketball like Wilt Chamberlain. It's not even close. Jordan could never do the things that Wilt Chamberlain did. You should check out some vids on Wilt. Wilt is the GOAT n Jordan is a distant 2nd.
@josephweber25025 жыл бұрын
I'll take a look at lebron going to the finals in a weak eastern conference and never winning anything unless he had to jump teams. Jordan's early teammates were absolutely horrible. Jordan didnt leave when times got tough like Lebron. Without leaving and forming super teams Lebron would have zero titles. Wilt wasnt even as good as Russell by the way.
@nyk2000m4 жыл бұрын
For younger generation that never saw MJ live game, rarely seen prime Kobe, here's what I think of MJ. Imagine Kawhi, plus Zach Levine vertical leap, plus Chris Paul vision + handle, oh and he's super clutch when the game was on the line. Thats about there.
@RWBprototype4 жыл бұрын
Actually, the Wizards' version of Jordan was pretty good! It just seemed like he played poorly because he set the bar so damn high by himself that when he failed to perform at the same level consistently, he was ripped for it. Before his meniscus tear in 2003, he was averaging almost 30 points a game.
@Jestir12345 жыл бұрын
How good was MJ? Imagine someone who was skilled and athletic enough to play baseball on a professional level...but was even BETTER at basketball
@ram06664 жыл бұрын
@Ulysses432 If his name was Dan Jones he wouldnt have played baseball
@alexzapf64224 жыл бұрын
The coaches that were training him said he would have been a great baseball player if I’d hadn’t been for the strike. I’m glad the strike happened.
@jakedooley53003 жыл бұрын
@@ram0666 yeah, obviously a minor league baseball league would love to have jordan, there viewership would triple what it was before just for having the most famous athletes ever, I heard Jordan wasn't that good of a baseball player either
@nealschieberl96013 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah he was, is the best ever! He made the NBA what it is today. Only they can’t find another as impactful or great. There will never be another Michael, or Tom Brady. They both are icons of their respective sports and cannot be replaced!
@leeaaron70824 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching MJ since 88 I think or maybe 89 and up till now, long after he’s retired, his moves still astounds me. He is a players player. Nobody better.
@mrsilkysmoothd5 жыл бұрын
The goat and is not even close
@ssfouryou5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, not even debatable
@chadstone95615 жыл бұрын
Still has the highest vertical jump in nba history, 48"
@ivanvansysinoy10794 жыл бұрын
@Litty 3 Titty more like 50 inch. He had an interview on high can he jump. He replied that he can put almost his forearm above the top of the square inside the board
@jcart0114 жыл бұрын
@Litty 3 Titty No, it was 48. Lebrons was 46.
@shinakuma94 жыл бұрын
There is always someone trying discrediting Jordan nowadays 😂 his jump was 48"
@maan72594 жыл бұрын
@Danny Green Is A BRICK MJs vert is 48 but once he got injured in he's 2nd season it got to 46 inch
@OculusOfficial4 жыл бұрын
Yeah officially its 48 but im pretty sure hes jumped 50" before, dude could fly lmao
@warwick8024 жыл бұрын
People seem to forget what a GOAT looks like
@jordanalia45955 жыл бұрын
Mike was in his prime from the day he was drafted til the day he retired (for good)
@DKxRAMONESxSP5 жыл бұрын
Its incredible how storybook his career is. From hitting the game winner for the college title to bursting into the NBA with record numbers, breaking his foot and coming back and setting records and creating a legacy of the greatest basketball player of all time.
@jecobico60895 жыл бұрын
MJ is so advance that his moves at his prime are the moves that players nowadays should acquire
@ericjordan60593 жыл бұрын
KD and Kawhai watch tapes of him to add to their game.
@qceaz115 жыл бұрын
10 times better than ANY other player
@78Richardab5 жыл бұрын
mmmm
@jakedooley53003 жыл бұрын
No not 10 times, Larry bird was the second greatest and he was about half as great as Jordan was, Jordan was obviously on a whole other level of greatness than anybody else but he's not 10 times better than anybody else
@royfablooo28104 жыл бұрын
Jordan Was already Prime for me in his Rookie Season, he was indeed a monster already.
@Hicks-g1m5 жыл бұрын
MJ is the greatest basketball player of all time no one even comes close undeated in the nba finals 6-0 with 6 finals mvp 72-10 87-13 in the 96 season including playoffs and finals along with his other accomplishments make him one of the greatest NBA players of all time
@herbertnelsonjr.98995 жыл бұрын
Highest scoring average in regular season, playoffs, and finals. Third all time in steals per game, and steals in a career. ONLY player in top 3 steals in both categories, career and per game. 10 scoring titles and HIGHEST shooting % for a shooting guard.
@theguy91505 жыл бұрын
buT LEBrOn iS thE GoAT
@robjames41605 жыл бұрын
@@theguy9150 Well, Lebron is A goat... as in the barnyard animal type that just makes a lot of noise and climbs on everything. However, as for THE G.O.A.T., that title is reserved for God (disguised as Michael Jordan) Almighty.
@potentially__94455 жыл бұрын
The Guy but you’re an IDIOT! 🤷🏾♂️
@chinohall93985 жыл бұрын
No the goat is Muhammad Ali, mj was just a overhyped basketball player that the league was pumping up. Dom Wilkins out slammed in the dunk contest but they gave it to mj because it was good for business 📈nba stock went up to were it is today he couldn’t even dribble the 🏀 without carrying it 😂
@matthewc90175 жыл бұрын
@@chinohall9398 mj got screwed out of an mvp and dpoy award when his stats were clearly better..you know nothing
@basketballisasport40625 жыл бұрын
i am glad to witness the dominance of Michael Jordan,the era we're greatness was born.
@davidca965 жыл бұрын
MJ at his prime was simply the greatest of all time.
@kalelwilson83374 жыл бұрын
And that's why he will always be the greatest ever..
@navbuoy5 жыл бұрын
MJ was like a human cheat code. They say players like him are once a generation - smh - nope gotta wait far longer than that.
@prodigalosu5 жыл бұрын
Kobe was drafted 12 years and there is no way anybody can convince me that kobe isint at least 98% as good as mj and then lebron was drafted 7 years later and he came very close to kobe and mj. So nah its about once a generation
@armandodelossantos7365 жыл бұрын
@@prodigalosu you're ridiculous, Kobe was great, but he wasn't MJ and don't ever put Lebron on the same sentence as Jordan. That 1984 draft produced an all time top 5 or a #1 player at pg, SG, pf, and center! This will never be duplicated
@josephweber25025 жыл бұрын
Kobe was the finals mvp 2 of 5 titles. And you're going to compare him to a guy who was 6-6? You just sound dumb.
@ssfouryou5 жыл бұрын
@@armandodelossantos736 Agreed, that dude is clueless. Jordan is the undisputed GOAT, just a fact.
@armandodelossantos7365 жыл бұрын
@@ssfouryou I think Olajuwon's the goat but yeah that guy is clueless
@kiLLinEmSoFTly4 жыл бұрын
His stat lines are absolutely out of this world. Black Jesus
@mrmartywaring5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I was able to watch him through his entire career. The GOAT!!!!!!!
@universalpeople15 жыл бұрын
Jordan did moves and made shoots never seen before on the court...
@xxn1ghtw0lfxx535 жыл бұрын
Zan Yarborough you got curry and jordan mixed up
@universalpeople15 жыл бұрын
I remember when MJ got the ball around the rim surrounded by five players on the opposite team and still made the basket. All we could say was, how did he do that? Curry wasn't in the NBA at that time.
@themaster8045 жыл бұрын
Because a majority of the league was not athletic.
@chinohall93985 жыл бұрын
You mean To tell me Dr.J stole all his moves? 🤔 or Elgin Baylor was trying to be like mike? 🤔 you pups don’t know what you are talking about 🤫
@mprubio845 жыл бұрын
He made the game revolutionary, before him no one was doing moves and scoring the way he did he made the game evolve🐐
@emmanuel39285 жыл бұрын
Of course he is the greatest ever. That man was unbelievable
@seanwilliams27644 жыл бұрын
1 WORD THAT MOST DESCRIBES HIM IS UNSTOPPABLE In His Prime!
@emel73413 жыл бұрын
Im blessed to see him play. What an honor to see true greatness
@ancientwarriors673 жыл бұрын
I love that 89 Jordan, my favorite season and playoffs games he ever played🏀
@kevinwade6855 жыл бұрын
AMAZING! He was playing chess while everyone else was playing basketball..
@reneperezjr83835 жыл бұрын
I think he was always in his prime
@roc80835 жыл бұрын
The reason MJ shrugged his shoulders after hitting six 3's vs Blazers is bc the nba tried to compare MJ and Clyde and Clyde Drexler made a statement before the game that MJ cant shoot. So MJ came out shooting the lights outs. As to say..Clyde, you are not on my level.
@mr.goldfarmer48834 жыл бұрын
MJs competitiveness at its finest. Scary.
@foosinaround86484 жыл бұрын
He was saying ..."l can't miss" .... too hard to say anyone else is better...he did it with style and grace....he pretty much....always came thru...I was a Pistons fan too...so.....it was unbelievable how many times he stunned the opponent like no other...Kobe is the only other player with Jordan like play...he too...was point blank...a killer too!!!
@jayesonmack31084 жыл бұрын
MJ was so great that he had 3 primes..He put up prime numbers in the 80s that are over looked because his team was not good. Basically on a bad team as a young player MJ changed the NBA and grew its popularity and viewership. This is before the championships
@wadestilwell42284 жыл бұрын
I always felt like MJ shrugging in that game against Portland was more him mocking people who doubted his ability to shoot the three. Like "I thought I couldn't shoot three's". It fits his personality better than acting like he couldn't believe what he was doing. Just my opinion
@vinceloga36204 жыл бұрын
The definition for greatness is Michael Jordan..
@juswa15925 жыл бұрын
If mj didn not quit in 1995 and 1999 he could have 8 rings beleived that
@ricksjordan28635 жыл бұрын
yes i believe that, mj still could have played and still gotten multiple rings like 2 or 3 rings until 2000 with scottie and rodman if they still had stuck together.. mj was still schooling players in 2003
@potentially__94455 жыл бұрын
The ONLY team i think that could’ve beaten the Bulls during their first three peat is the Houston Rockets.
@juswa15925 жыл бұрын
Bulls chemistry is just solid at the time 1994 - 1995 is just too smart to fast jordans I. Q that time just advance , houston will give bulls a good fight for the ring in 1995 but its just jordan was too much of a killer, chemistry wise bulls is better 1995 bulls might be better than 1996 bulls if rodman arrived early that year facts just facts No one can beat jordan in the 1990s he will trash talk you out of your game plus he can back it up that time
@gdc6155 жыл бұрын
They put him out before the gambling and cheating scandals ruined him and the league. Once it blew over he was allowed back.
@steal955 жыл бұрын
Anthony Fabian I’m a Jordan fan but I doubt it injury and fatigue wouldn’t caught up to them
@cesarsanchez12525 жыл бұрын
Jordan, simply the G.o.a.t
@tristonwalls66922 жыл бұрын
My father got to go to Michael Jordan's flu game with my grandfather and boy, the stories they tell me about it, I'd give anything to have seen it in person with my own eyes.
@terrellroberson16374 жыл бұрын
Averaged 30 or more pts in 7 straight NBA seasons led the league in Scoring 10x, led the league in steals 3x, the only player besides Scottie Pippen to have 200 stls and 100 blks in one season undeafeated in NBA finals, averaged 28 or better in every finals he played averaged the most assists in a NBA finals by a shooting guard the MJ the GOAT
@mitjamurko785 жыл бұрын
Offcourse he is the GOAT😎🔥
@wallacesharpe1965 жыл бұрын
Joshua Daniels you are absolutely correct and I have been saying that for a long time; if he never retired of broken his foot he would have more points and more titles and more MVP finals. I can see him being a finals champion in 91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98, and if not retired 99 and 00
@jp38134 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but how about actually matching the clips w/ your narration? Most of the time, what you're describing isn't what's being shown in the video.
@calvincorum63153 жыл бұрын
Wins league MVP . Scoring title . Defensive player of year. Leader in steals and averaged 8 rebounds and 6 assists and 2 blocks a game. ALL THIS IN ONE SEASON. HE made superstars look average and so many hall of fame members dont have rings because of MJ. He was the best offensive player and best defensive player and mentally dominated in every game. And some still think Lebron is GOAT lol. If MJ played today he would average 45 pts and make break Lebrons will to compete.
@alexzapf64224 жыл бұрын
He was so good it was scary. He made it look so easy. But. Anyone who knows, realizes how hard he worked. Practices were legendary. What made him the best ever, is that he expected the best out of everyone else. He was selfish in wanting to be the best. But. He knew he couldn’t do it without his teammates rising with him.
@jmh47slc5 жыл бұрын
Kids these days will never know! There has not been a competitor like Jordan ever since!
@ben1ben2ben15 жыл бұрын
Kids these days will never know? Jordan is still by far the most talked about player in the NBA. You can't watch a game without them talking about him being the GOAT.
@jmh47slc5 жыл бұрын
@@ben1ben2ben1 you heard me child.
@ben1ben2ben15 жыл бұрын
@@jmh47slc I did hear you. It was just stupid. Most kids these days still say Jordan is the GOAT
@rolandbaron58135 жыл бұрын
"How good was MJ?" This shouldn't be a question. He's the GOAT!
@marcbibanga56014 жыл бұрын
Roland Baron Different eras
@yankeeed15pr4 жыл бұрын
He is and always will be "the GOAT"; 'nuff said!
@nikeetime75815 жыл бұрын
INSANE Basketball player, athlete that put in incredible HARD WORK! His HEART, and COMPETITIVE SPIRIT was ABOVE the level of his TALENT!!!🏀🏀🏀🐐🐐🐐
@marfigue7774 жыл бұрын
As a rookie he went straight to all star and rookie of the year!!!digest that!!
@IamJoshuaElijahReese5 жыл бұрын
Before opposing team bench players realized their reactions were also being recorded. We saw you dawg, we saw you....
@nickphillips65465 жыл бұрын
People can bring up all kinds of crazy reasons that LeBron is the GOAT. But the advantage M.J. has over everybody is he is the greatest WINNER of all time. 6 trips to the finals and won them all. And he didn't have to use a superteam. Pippen was a great player, but a big reason for that was being on Jordan's team.
@timerban36465 жыл бұрын
Really?? Im pretty sure Pippen almost made the finals when Jordan "retired" serving his gambling suspension. Jordan without Pippen in his career was 1-9 in playoff games and under .500 for his regular season career. One could say the evidence shows that in order to be this greatest winner you're claiming him to be he would have had to either benefit from playing in an incredibly weak era (he did) or he would have had to have been surrounded by a stacked team. (He was, mutiple hall of famers, almost won it all without Jordan, deep team hall of fame coaching.) MJ didn't play 6 seasons. The other years he was busy losing repeatedly in the first round of the playoffs (When other teams were actually good before the expansion weakened the league.) or missing the playoffs altogether.
They did have a crack epidemic in the 🇺🇸 that would explain the LBJ >mj situation.
@davidhowell4882 жыл бұрын
Scotty developed after playing 7years with MJ before he retired
@nikara54235 жыл бұрын
Michael Jordan is simply The Best basketball player that ever grazed the game!!! 😝 Just check the stats, they don't make No Mistake!!!
@adidas20zero4 жыл бұрын
Hell yes he is the greatest. I'm a Chicago native, I've seen him play with no help and score 50 being triple teamed. Some people will get hot a couple games, he would go two weeks straight scoring 40. Hanging in the air, no one like MJ!!!
@flexjay874 жыл бұрын
There are not enough superlative terms, to even describe how good Michael Jordan is. But, no one then or now, is as good as he was !
@thecolorapplegreen5 жыл бұрын
Nothing conpares to MJ. Hes god of basketball...
@armandodelossantos7365 жыл бұрын
Hakeem Olajuwon owns Jordan, and he didn't even learn what basketball was until he was 16
@vlbinladen30195 жыл бұрын
@@armandodelossantos736 boy stfu no he dont. Olajuwon was great no doubt but to say he owned jordan u trippen
@paulpresto81405 жыл бұрын
He put basketball on the map- Nike too The sports era owes him big time-NBA should build a shrine to him
@Tyokok5 жыл бұрын
dude at prime kills KB and LJ together, no questions!
@donnelladams83623 жыл бұрын
From 1988 until 1993 Jordan was the greatest player ever, in that 5 year span Jordan never had a dominant center or an all star power forward in that span. But he and Scottie led the bulls to 3 consecutive championships without a Super team behind him.
@oliverdennis31154 жыл бұрын
Short: Possibly the greatest sportsperson to play, not just basketball, but any sport, ever.