How Good Was Ricciardo Against Verstappen at Red Bull?

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[@Noavaileblenames]

Don't forget that Danny did a testdrive in the RB19 at Silverstone and managed a lap time good enough for the front row of the race that weekend. In a car he has never driven before and does that, impressive.

[@sadsadasdsadasdsadas]

Overrated, nothing special.

[@varffman1053]

Max is a machine now, in 2017 he was a young fast boy

[@cassandrarose11]

Exactly. This is a ridiculous comparison right now. 😅

[@LucasMueller18]

Is he? He kinda looks like he has the same pace but much less mistake prone. I don’t believe the moment Max got a fast car he rondomly became better

[@chiefqueef7332]

@@LucasMueller18I don’t think it’s getting a good car that made him a machine. It was getting in such a close championship battle I think he’s just a lot more calculated now that he understands how important every point is.

[@LucasMueller18]

@@chiefqueef7332 good point but it’s also the absence of having to push. Same reason drivers like Leclerc, Russel, and Lando make stupid mistakes. Max doesn’t have to push anymore and it just shows his natural easy pace and it’s pretty fast

[@AD21chagedmylife]

​@@LucasMueller18young and fast as in immature and fast. Immature in the sense of not understanding limitations of the car and not always being aware of his surroundings. Now that he's been in the sport for several years he's managed to "mature" out with experience, race wins and of course championships.

[@robertcarr4172]

Danny Ric would be a great fit for Red Bull (if he finds his old form) He left Red Bull and made his money. Now he would return knowing he is 2nd. But he could add wins to his legacy which is more important now.

[@luigidacosta1914]

Yeah right

[@crystalracing4794]

Australian Coulthard

[@matiasbiondolillo5217]

Like Lando against Sainz. You could see their ceiling was much higher, but at that moment their teammate's experience made the difference to get results with more consistency.

[@tanyaghosh2277]

Sainz is still miles better than Lando. People who think otherwise are smoking something good man.

[@Kanyf1]

They were close in qualifying pace, but in race pace Verstappen was clearly ahead with very few exceptions (Baku 2018 for example). In 2017 he had a lot of retirements while being in front of Daniel, on the other hand Daniel had most of his retirements while being behind Max. Also for example in Monaco 2017 Daniel was given the better strategy despite being behind on track. I think after his bad start in 2018, from Montréal and onwards he was on an another level. Lets don't forget he was 19 in 2017 and 20 in 2018.

[@hurronivich2652]

Agreed this is generally forgotten that when there were DNFs Max was most of time ahead of Daniel. For me that's the only reason people can even debate whether Ricciardo was better than Verstappen. If there weren't that many reliability issues for both of them, it would be difficult to argue Daniel was better in 2017 or 2018.

[@Reaz399]

They weren‘t close in quali pace either. Max was ~ 2 tenths faster on average in 2017 and 2.5 in 2018. That‘s a bigger gap than Hamilton had to Bottas between 17-21 in quali.

[@jarrodparker760]

Not saying Ricciardo was faster but you have to take into account the fact Ricciardo only retired behind Max the majority of the time because he had to take a stupid amount of grid penalties due to using too many engine parts because they kept blowing up on him. Not only that but the engine reliability was not only during the race. Happened 3 or 4 times in qualy too.

[@Kanyf1]

@@jarrodparker760 Verstappen also had similar problems, also had some retirements that wasn't his fault but misjudgment of other drivers. Of course, he also took out Ricciardo in Hungary. Max spent 70% of the laps in front of Daniel during.

[@Lburt07]

They were both equal but Daniels experience against Max's inexperience put him ahead but Daniels bad luck put him closer to Max in the standings then he should have been. So they were equal except late in 2018 were i think Max started to edge ahead. And the Baku crash and Honda uncertainty said to Daniel time to leave is now.

[@danny838]

That's a seriously fair assessment. I can't disagree 👍

[@danny838]

@@BuriedDutchman the video literally says Daniel had more retirements

[@NardKoning]

You're ignoring quali times etc. Max was already outqualifying Riciardo in 2017 and the average gap increased slowly. They were equal in race results indeed but the writing was on the wall I would say.

[@best___0999]

Perfectly said

[@z24-p8e]

@@danny838 but the video didn't say that ,at the time of most his DNFs ,Daniel was already behind Max.

[@dominicbarden4436]

2016 may have been an 'acclimatisation' year for Max but he still got 17 races in the RB12; that's still a lot of races. 2017 and 18 were tight but for me Verstappen had the better of it both years in terms of speed, even if 1) his inexperience held him back and 2) it was all skewed due to him getting the brunt of Red Bull's DNFs in 2017 and Ricciardo getting the brunt in '18.

[@Scollsy]

I think Max fans like me accept Ricciado is a better driver with three seasons of obvious dominance but Max has improved recently, so the gap is not as big as it used to be. Ricciardo is probably still a fair bit better and more likable but its not as big a gap as it used to be.

[@karenjonstone8763]

The gap is the same.

[@kazza3075]

Ricciardo is a more pure F1 driver. In 2018 Daniel beat max in races both cars finished 158 to 144 points. Ricciardo beat Max in 2016, 2017, 2018, three seasons. There is simply no comparison if you consider F1 purity, race craft and love of the sport.

[@3dmaniac119]

Another impressive publication @aldas. Good work Now!!! here's my question: Have you seen the exact same seasons as we all did? 😁 Max completely obliterated Ricc on every season they drove alongside each other. And let's add 2016 as an adaptive season for the young fella, shall we (why not)? 😉 - After the end of his rookie season, some 18yrs old boy, changed teams at 2016 mid season, and without ever testing his new beast of a machine, he simply destroyed the all competition (after those two mercs muppets, ended each other's race, at the very 1st lap), ending with a symphonic win... with some insane skills, after battling against Kimi. I'm not even mentioning, those mid season races (nor Interlagos... why should I? ;) )... with glimpses of sheer brilliancy, a few DNF's and "rookie" mistakes. The last race of the 2016 season - The still young man... spun at those very 1st corners... and became last (at 22nd place, 4 seconds behind everyone)... while Ricc was already 4th, by the end of that same 1st lap: Max ended 19th... already 10sec behind Ricciardo and 0.3s behind Ericsson, although....1sec in front of Sainz. Basically, he drove 6s faster in just one lap, than the Spanish fella and, 10s faster than KMag, being the last to cross the finish line. A few laps later... 8 to be precise, the frontrunners started to pit for some fresh rubber boots and Max opted for a different strat... by the end of lap 9, he was already 2nd, 1.5s behind Lewis. Good battles happened during the race, which ended with with Nico becoming WC, and Max finishing 4th... just 1.65s behind, after being overtaken by Seb, wearing new boots. Ricc ended 5th. Nothing that Ricc did till today, was even close to what Max has achieved in his 1st season, driving for the the Bulls. - 1st win without even testing his new machine - One of the most brilliant performances ever, from any driver, at any circuit... at Interlagos (wet race) (being considered as "driver of the century", by the same legend, that brought Lewis to the Mercs) - An insane race at Abu Dhabi, from last to 3rd, losing that place, for some fresh rubber boots, Ferrari... while on the very last laps. Ended in 4th place, 0.8s behind Vettel and 1.685s behind the Winner. Seasons stats | Max vs Ricc (also considering that Max, just raced 17 races, against 21, from Ricciardo, at 2016) 2016 Wins 1 - 1 Podiums 7 - 8 Points 191 - 220 2017 (lots of machine problems for Max) Wins 2 - 1 Podiums 4 - 9 Points 168 - 200 2018 (more mistakes and Machine problems, for Ricc) Wins 2 - 2 Podiums 11 - 2 Points 249 - 170 TOTALS Wins 5 - 4 Podiums 22 - 19 Points 608 - 590 Guess this resumes, those 3 seasons. I have almost half a century of F1 over my shoulders... and my reaction to what the still young man did, the minute he arrived the circus, was... "This kid will be the new Gilles, mixed with some Lauda, Prost, Senna and Schumacher, all together". The young man is an Alien (and... at the early age of 25)... a bit Like Messi/Maradona, Jordan, Federer, Pelphs, Bolt and a few others. Keep up doing such an awesome work, @aldas. Even if I disagree with some of your opinions, you have my outmost respect. From a passionate fan to another Regards

[@m.fadhilakbar3693]

Daniel's experience already known as a race winner against a super 18 y.o Max should be in the conversation why they were matching each other that times. Daniel is an estabilished driver, he's a proven race winner, no doubt he's the third best driver in 2014-2018 behind Lewis & Seb but already we've seen something more special in Max, we saw Max already had that natural speed & killer drive on such a young age, even if he got beaten by Daniel in 16 & 17, we saw that how close Max to him in 2016 on average pace, in year we know probably it was Daniel's strongest season but he already that close after just joined the team prematurely, 18years old, & so raw. Max in 2017 deserve to beat Daniel as he was already faster than Daniel, he also outqualified Daniel already in his first full season in RB, but of course he was still raw that times, his mistakes prone is not avoided yet. In 2018, although Daniel had really unlucky, but let's not forget that most of the times he DNF, he was behind Max. So there will not change much the results, Max was already much quicker than him and that made him thinking to go out from RB as he seen that Max will be a superstar driver and will soonly take that sovereignty as a number 1.

[@jarrodparker760]

lets also not forget that most of the DNF's he finished behind Max were because of grid penalties he had to take race after race because they kept having to change engine parts. Up until 2021 their pace and skill level was very very similar

[@m.fadhilakbar3693]

@@jarrodparker760 nah be realistic, even 2020 Daniel will never match Max. He will be a lot closer than Albon did but he will never touch Max. Max has that natural killer things that Daniel doesn't have.

[@emelle1283]

RiccarDOPE was THRASHED by Norris - he would be SLAUGHTERED by Max now Reply

[@jarrodparker760]

@@m.fadhilakbar3693 I was being realistic, he wouldn't beat current max but he'd definitely take some races and be alot closer than any of the other teammates have been. All I was saying in my other comment is 2018 Ricciardo was just as fast if not faster

[@arroe8386]

That Alonso was in a shit car doesn't mean he didn't exist

[@ladymanners618]

Max and Danny are mature, almost 'cerebral' in their consideration of most things, especially driving and people. They behave like cousins and I'd love to see their bantering and laughter on the grid again. As far as I can see both have maintained their understanding and trust of the each and that's almost priceless in that competitive workplace. Max is much more mature than his years and Danny will always be young at heart. I hope that it happens if Redbull and 'the boys' want it, why not? Then watch some of their competitors lose their cool.......

[@tundaslug07]

I dont really agree with the analysis of Daniel being the one to push max, he doesn't need a team mate to push him regardless to who he has as a teammate he's going to give it 110% every free practice, every quali and every race that's just MAX

[@Scottie_S]

I disagree with Aldas about Ricciardo's decision to leave. His last season with Red Bull in 2018 saw his car collapse in a heap and DNF'ed in 8 races in that season. I think that this would be enough to throw your hands in the air and say "I'm out". I still think it was an unwise decision, though. He should have stayed on and I believe we would have seen some great racing.

[@Elvewizzy.]

Daniel saw the shitshow that ws Mclaren Honda at that time also, and REALLY didnt believe in the RB Honda partnership. Ultimately he made the wrong call, but we all understand why.

[@pantrofl]

But.. the reason his car kept DNF'ing was because of the Renault engine. And he left red bull for Renault. So how does what you're saying make sense?

[@Elvewizzy.]

@@pantrofl RBR had to cram that engine in a much tighter area and I believe Renault built them a specific spec which never really worked for them. It did just fine in their own car so they always put the blame on RBR. (And after many heated exchanges they re branded the engine into 'Tag Heuer' So Daniel felt pretty safe to go to a team where engines actually lasted. Also keep in mind, the alternative for next year was that awful 'gp2 engine' in the mclaren.

[@martinusv7433]

Yep, he simply missed seeing the chequered flag in 2018. Just imagine having to push to the limit lap after lap while constantly fearing in the back of your mind that the car might break down at any moment 😐

[@keiton9512]

Daniel outside of Mclaren has always been incredibly competitive. I think he 100% deserves a seat given his past. Whether at redbull or another team.

[@quentinhirschfeld9382]

He was bang average at HRT and Toro Rosso as far as i'm concerned, only showcased great one lap pace there but was sometimes out-drove by Jean Eric Vergne. Only scored 30 points in 2 seasons there.

[@sergioferrero46]

As a Max fan that also loves Ricciardo (even more when he was in his prime in RB), I have to admit that they were very close, but at that time Max was in his very-early 20s and Daniel was in his absolute prime

[@callanharvey2293]

Max truly is a prodigy. I think DR got into f1 at the worst time, because if you weren't driving a Mercedes then you had no chance of a WDC

[@selder_7]

I’d say Abu Dhabi 2020 is when Verstappen really hit his stride. Just bulletproof consistency alongside pace since then. 2019 was a big step up too though

[@downydutch3203]

Nah the car just became better after that, Max was at his peak from the second half of 2018. Barely made a mistake since than. Beating the faster Ferrari's in 2019 and occasionally splitting the rocketship Mercedes in 2020 and made that RedBull look faster than the arguably faster Racing Point (Merc clone). Also no teammate has really come close since that point, while all of them have proven to be good to very good F1 drivers after or before being Max's Teammate.

[@hoya1178]

Max was faster in both 2017 and 2018. In 2017 Max was faster in both race pace(0.210) and quali pace(0.151), Max outqualified Ricciardo with 13-7 and in the races were they both finished Max won 5-4. It was only due to bad luck and DNFs that Max didn't have more points that season. In 2018 Max was faster in both race pace(0.220) and quali pace(0.215), Max outqualified Ricciardo with 15-5 and in the race were they both finished Max won 8-3.

[@kr1ptac]

Watching this on 8/25/2023😭😭😭

[@teamrainbow7674]

A video on the short teammate battle between Sainz and Verstappen?

[@Uzair_Of_Babylon465]

Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍

[@TarakKakkar]

amazing content bro been seeing your channel on the rise

[@Akash__Verma__]

1:48 I saw Blake from Braake F1 noice

[@moonbathing2002]

Dan is the man, perhaps the fact no other team racer has matched how good him and max were together has heald some hurt feeling at Dannys end, as long as Rebull show him respect this time - even though Max is now super human!

[@NicotineRosberg]

Like everybody else I too was really shock how Danny was at McLaren. I just couldn't understand. Danny was always a top driver so it felt really weird seeing him like that

[@robertcarr4172]

Max clearly was better than Danny boy. It was clear he had an advantage with raw speed. However it was pretty darn close. No one has run Max as close as Daniel did. If Daniel was firing on all cylinders as a team mate to Max, he was easily capable of beating him. The strongest driver pairing!!

[@robertcarr4172]

Bottas was never that amazing (love the guy tho)@@gameofender4463

[@thisaraperera3678]

⁠Norris and Piastri I'd say.

[@robertcarr4172]

Ok sure. with zero wins @@thisaraperera3678

[@Jude74]

Everyone wants another 2016 but with Max and Daniel taking the Lewis and Nico roles.

[@tigerpjm]

Nice vid! I honestly think that Daniel has recalibrated his expectations with regard to his own career. I think he understands that he probably won't beat that Red Bull is very much Max's team now and will remain that way. But if Daniel can come in, perform consistently, beat Max from time-to-time and nail down second place in the driver's championship, he'll mark himself as among the very top echelon of drivers who, on his day, could beat a once-in-a-generation talent and dominant world champion.

[@richboy900]

Max was better imo, but Riccardo did have a lot of bad luck with reliability. You have to remember Dan was in his prime whereas it was still early days for Max. Red bull had the best line up of the grid with those two imo

[@hoya1178]

Max had just as much bad lucky when they were teammates.

[@tfulookingat55]

Hamilton and Rosberg in 2016 was a better combo (19 wins). Hamilton and Bottas in 2017/2018 (12 wins in 2017, 11 wins in 2018), as well as Vettel/Raikkonen in 2017-2018 (11 combined wins; not even with the best car). All 3 were better lineups.

[@seanmatthew9943]

2018 would have been an Iconic Season 🏆. If it was a 3 Way Battle for The Championship Between ( VETTEL 🇩🇪 5, HAMILTON 🇬🇧 44, and RICCIARDO 🇦🇺 3)!!!!

[@kiaya20]

Max has said he wants Daniel back.. because Daniel understands team decisions and follows them.

[@danpaton9744]

Let’s face it, Danny got scared off by a foetus, he’d stand no chance against Max today

[@swampcat4901]

Max and Ric were pushing one another to new limits. If they´ve stuck together they both would have grown to new heights. Hopefully that happens again.

[@Simphony12]

No way, without watching the video I can tell you Max has worked hard enough to be at the level he is now. I really don't like that kid but I have to admit he is one of the greatest of all time. That alone is achieved by consistency and super hard work, also a little bit of luck and support from the team but it does not take anything from Max talent and results

[@PickupthePieces76]

Why don't you like him? He is honest and straight forward with some humor in there.

[@LearningHistoryTogether]

Max came into red bull being extremely young, keep in mind when (normal) drivers where coming in f1 they were 20-22. He was 17, and 18 when he came into red bull. Verstappen generally was quicker than Ricciardo but ricciardo was more experienced and more consistant than max. Any post 2017 max (19 year old) would beat Ricciardo in a fair 1 vs 1

[@randymashawn5029]

did yall realize in f1 2024 drivers standings that Ricciardo is 16th in drivers standing and yuki 18th in the standings.

[@inflatable2]

You say 2019, I say after Monaco 2018 was the moment Max changed from a young impatient talented rookie making unforced errors into the relentless consistent dominant champion driver he is now.. Daniel felt that as well and knew he was losing the team to Max.. Apart from DNF's Max never lost a race to Daniel anymore since.. Because of that I was not that surprised Daniel left Red Bull, but I was suprised it was to Renault.. The manufactor of the engines that were the main cause of all the reliability issues Red Bull had in those days, besides the lack of performance.. I guess it was Daniel only viable option to leave at the time.. And look at him now, 4 years and 2 teams later, in Alfa Tauri trying to get back into Red Bull again.. How times can change..

[@PickupthePieces76]

Whether prime Ric was ever better for a longer spell than young Max is up for debate. But I think most would agree that even with Ric being a very good driver, he does not belong in that upper echelon of drivers like Schumi. Ham, Senna, Prost. Max in my opinion does. If he comes back and could approach his form of years past he would do a bit better than Perez, but I don't think he would be able to really push Max consistently at all. But he would be grateful to drive in a competitive car and scoring podiums and an occasional win. And RB has a consistent number two who is content with being number two.

[@waynemanna1402]

To my mind, when MV first got to RB he was already super fast and I think DR really did "step up a gear" because of the threat MV posed. Did he step up enough to really challenge MV over subsequent seasons given that MV has gained experience and maturity so has only got better? I suspect not. If DR was driving at his peak I think he would definitely be quicker than Perez, but MV is now the class-of-the-field by a good margin - it's hard to see an area you could call a weakness (and I am no fan of MV). Hamilton is perhaps his only genuine rival as long as the Mercedes is good enough. Sadly, Red Bull's (i.e. Marko's) appalling handling of the 2018 contretemps, which I thought then and think now was definitely MV's fault for weaving, took a toll on DR and led him to some decisions that just didn't work for him.

[@rulifaller8474]

Max had a shocker in the first 6 incident filled races of 2018, after that he calmed down and became the superior driver to Daniel.

[@bw8818]

He was better than Max bcoz of the experience and Ricciardo was also just sensational driver who just steals races just like that.

[@milseq]

I think Ricciardo would be a great fit to RB. He's a PR goldmine, and if he finds his RB pace again, a serious contender for race wins!

[@alexanderzwollo3825]

I think everyone wants to see this pairing again. Dan in his prime was equal to a young Verstappen but i think we can all agree that Max's ceiling was way higher. His improvements year after year scared Ric for sure. I think if DR came back he would have to fight to regain his form of old whereas Max has reached the level that we have seen from F1 royalty like Schumacher, Senna. I think its more a question of what could have been, unfortunately in the case of Ricciardo.

[@beatdown444]

2024 DR3 will be back in that redbull seat. you heard it hear first...

[@mikecostanza303]

Drinking game: Watch Aldas videos and take a drink every time you hear "undoubtably" or "undoubtedly".

[@hultii]

Riccardo let his ego get the best of him but at least he made a few millions at the expense of more possible race wins and podiums

[@jamesmcgregor8314]

I don't believe people can always just say that Max was so inexperienced and young compared to now and Max would crush Ricciardo. Look at the response from Horner when he realised the times Ricciardo was setting in a completely unknown car to him (he had never driven the car before this and set a time Horner said would be on the front row) in testing 2023. The fact is and always will be with F1 that you have to be in the right car at the right time. Ricciardo's Red Bull years were plagued with unreliability even though he managed to scramble for wins. The car only started winning in 2021, he would have had to wait another 3 years (8 years of racing from joining in 2014) to get anywhere near a championship and even then the tides were against him with Red Bull backing Max. No wonder he left. No F1 driver waits that long. Max is fast but no faster now, just way more consistent and even tempered and the best car on the grid hands down. I hope they give Ricciardo a seat there to see what he can do. Checo has had too long to catch up.

[@tobiasz6613]

Best case is he'd probably do better than Checo but not that much better, worst case he'd probably be about the same as Checo. Danny now, even assuming he gets back to something like his red bull days, is not as good as Max but is he better than Checo, probably and he's been happy slapped into knowing that being the red bull Bottas is the best he can hope for now. Unless he really is washed up, he'll be in the red bull next season at the first sign of "uh oh here comes the perez mid season drop off"

[@KingWeir]

I know he's had his struggles but at that moment in time, there was no case to say Max was the more gifted driver. Yeah Max was looking like an incredible talent, especially for his age but so was Riccardo, he was a proven racer winner, he had legit taken on Seb and beaten him, a 4 time world champion, for many it was a case of when not if Danny Ric would become a World Champion. Of course, history hasnt gone his way, with moves to slower teams proving his downfall, especially at McLaren, as it was only at McLaren did he truly struggle, the guy was clearly the better driver at Renault, meanwhile Max stuck at Red Bull and that team bounced back and he has become champion but its easy to say what you should have done in hindsight but nobody knows which team is going to produce a title contender, especially going into a major rule change.

[@quentinhirschfeld9382]

Max had shorter corners already, he was the better driver.

[@aoife1122]

And why would Red Bull even want Ricciardo in that seat? The job of their #2 driver is anything but pushing Verstappen, let alone compete against him. This is not how you secure/maintain dominance. Look at Mercedes, Lauda and Wolff would have never put up with another season like 2016, hence Rosberg's "shock retirement" was all but inevitable. As for Red Bull, no driver has ever made it back into the team, once you're out, you're out. And when Red Bull was shifting away from two drivers competing against each other to the "wingman" strategy, this had big implications for TR/AT and their junior driver program... and for now, there is absolutely no reason for RB to put some young aspiring hot shot into the second seat. This has to be an experienced driver, willing to accept his role as #2 driver... not someone looking to "upset the apple cart".

[@dcsyd16]

The Baku incident did not help & Christian handled that whole saga very very poorly. The other contributing factor was DR ex manager Glenn Beavis (which he sued for non-performance & poor advice). The dude was a complete snake . Daniel could have done so much better by staying with Red Bull Honda. Daniel would have spoken to other senior drivers on the grid, who all would have reminded him about the Gp2 engine at McLaren and Fernando Realistically Daniel also should have stayed a third year at Renault, he would have been better off…he dragged that pos up the grid to 2 podiums and would have more money off the euro market

[@tacoflash71]

The Problem was with McLaren is that they didn’t adjust to both Drivers well enough and just blamed the Car if you get that experience at a Team are they really only relying on one driver Alpines Driver Pairings have been pretty even threw the years given a Car that they can be really close in points Realiabilly hasn’t been the best but the Midfield Mechinces can make one of the 2 Drivers Shine a chance at a Race Winning Seat.

[@glenrobinson10]

How did Ricciardo "clearly not click with the environment" at McLaren? All parties have said that the failure was purely down to the handling characteristics that Danny couldn't work around. Everything else was fine.

[@henrywilliams8313]

It was down to Mclaren micromanagement of Ricciardo's issues with the car. They should've just let him figure the car out by himself.

[@mlyten67]

In short, the McLaren solution to the incompatibility between Daniel and the car was to adjust Daniels driving style, rather than rectifying the car’s inherent flaws, which by all understanding, we’re a core design issue and not easily remedied. Daniel has always preferred a pointy car that tends to oversteer on corner entry and the Macca was basically a tyre scrubber by comparison. This preference is very similar to that enjoyed by Max. Funnily enough, Checo prefers the particular under steering car characteristic of the 2021 Macca. Looking at the current RB, it appears to be in Daniels sweet spot, hence why he was able to turn it on in the mid year tyre test.

[@JohnH1]

I think on his day Ricciardo would equal Verstappen but I don't think he's better. I do not count qualifying as it's a different requirement, it's a one-lap throw-everything-at-it situation. In a full race situation, implementing tactics of fuel and tyre saving while still putting in competitive times is a different kettle of fish. I think Ricciardo showed his maturity and ability to deliver.

[@alchemist3938]

Tough time don't stay forever ,same in case of good times..... Dany will bounce back again we all believe in him

[@pooledogg775]

I believe if DR came back he would beat Max occasionally on pace and would give that competition that they crave.

[@jockdee2442]

You have to take into account that Redbull have built their cars to suit verstappen driving style. All the other teams have compromised between their 2 drivers.

[@Platinumtrophyguy]

Belgium Grand Prix finished above tsunoda redemption for Daniel in the coming months trust me

[@steffighter144]

It makes no sense to exclude 2016 especially not for Red Bull drivers

[@russtaylor385]

Red Bull are not a charity. Keeping Max and giving him the right tools is what matters. He will do the winning with today’s reliability. They will not want a really fast guy in the other car. Good enough for good points is all that is required. Checo fits the bill and so would Daniel and others. Cheap wouldn’t go amiss either. The second seat at RB ain’t that great.

[@golemer]

in my opinion max and daniel have never had a true fight because of that very reliable renault engine

[@aaeb1291]

If Riccardo went back now up against Max at Red Bull, he would get hosed!

[@henkormel5610]

Conveneatly you forget one stat. Were were Max and Riccardo driving when technical DNFing. Statistcs are just lies when wrongly aplied.

[@marinus6719]

If Ricciardo didn't leave red bull, we might have had a Rosberg v Hamilton type of rivalry now.

[@abel6846]

Overall yes, but primarily more consistent than Max. Although Max showed flashes of his potential.

[@gunjantripathi9271]

why does horner think these two will work as teammates again???

[@norbertjanssen814]

These are the stats i could find of the total time Verstappen and Ricciardo were teammates. I´ve excluded DNF´s because both of them had a lot of DNF´s in 2017 and 2018. In the races they both finished Verstappen 32 and Ricciardo 24 times ahead. Verstappen got 22 podiums and Ricciardo 19. And Verstappen got 5 race wins against Ricciardo´s 4. I couldn´t find the qualifying results but i believe Ricciardo beat Verstappen there. But in these stats you could already see that even as a teenager Verstappen´s peaks were higher he just needed more experience and consistency.

[@jarrodparker760]

stats are slightly skewed for race pace and podums/wins. In 2018, especially in the back half of the season, Ricciardo had to take alot of grid penalties for engine changes which meant he'd start close to the back of the grid quite often so ofc Max was taking those races. Your point still stands tho

[@norbertjanssen814]

@@jarrodparker760 Yeah your right. I would love to see how Ricciardo would do now next to Verstappen.

[@NardKoning]

Actually Max outqualified Ric in 2017 13-7, and 15-5 in 2018. Agree with the overall assessment though.

[@jarrodparker760]

@@norbertjanssen814 He wouldn't beat Max now, I genuinely believe Ricciardo is still there but Max is just a different beast and will finish his career amongst the all time greats. He'd certainly be closer than Albon, Gasly or Checo have been though

[@angus_bangus]

I think Riccardo is more of a Button, Hill, or Rosberg. WDC capable in the right machinery but not absolutely dominant like lewis, max, or vettel.

[@AndrzejHeller]

I still think Daniel did the right thing leaving Red Bull. The only reason he’s back there is because it was his only option to stay in Formula 1. I lost all the respect I had for him when it was announced he’s returning to the team he left at the end of 2019. I do not believe he can replicate the level of performance people may remember. The team won’t allow anyone to challenge Max. No matter how he or anyone else performs, they’ll never have equal treatment as long as the current team management is in place.

[@santiagooehler]

I think is the same reason he left, he saw that team was going to be Max Verstappen team, and that must have hurt to him (he was there before) so he left to renault who were always selling air and then to mclaren, a team that was coming back to the top but it got stuck again. So they were not bad projects to be in when he was. His time at mclaren is a big question of what happened cause the team was supportive to him, so really weird it didn't work and obviously it puts into question wether or not he can get back into form. Him returning to Alpha tauri just show the bad state the Red bull academy is being managed at the moment, and how difficult time drivers have at Red bull, besides MAx obviously. Marko it's always ready to pull the plug on any of them, if checo had come from the redbull academy and not having more of a conventional contract in f1, he would be already be sacked, and the second driver of redbull would have changed 2 or 3 other times since 2020

[@crowkid5553]

He's the only driver to beat Max in terms of rankings, so hes a very good driver

[@instenalable]

Max was fast but inconsistent, he was barely an adult at that point.

[@David-v7b7r]

Max may have been quicker but he also got into stupid incidents and mistakes, Daniel was far more sensible and reliable. Now max is the ultimate racing driver, I don't think Daniel will get close to him

[@hugomontanez3601]

It is because of fanatics that don’t see further than the tip of their nose sports a becoming boring and less competitive! the reason why Ricciardo left was clear in 2018 and the situation in RB was clear in 2023!

[@blinkhornklinkhammer999]

No respect for Checo.

[@kenlewis2353]

Lets just say that DR is his teammate and is his equal Max will get dirty, Max has not had an equal and the car is that good he has not had to worry about wins. If DR is good enough and starts to pressure Max this wont suit Red Bull they go on and on about Cheko but same deal they want a driver good enough to come second but not good enough to beat Max.

[@Igbon5]

Albon has gained enough experience to cream Ricciardo in the same car, especially a McLaren. Or anything. So has Gasly for that matter.

[@strobeuav8003]

Checo shouldn’t be disrespected like this.

[@ploppyjr2373]

Like what? Checo has been pretty shit

[@joseferreol2353]

If he´s that good, he should´ve not left when he as in his prime, now, the only reason he might get a chance at Redbull is because Max doesn´t want a top racer next to hi;, if he did, why not go after Piastri or Charles Lecrec? No sir, he wants a laydown wingman, which Checo was for 2 straight seasons, all of a sudden he wins 2 races, Max doesn´t like his thunder stolen. Is as simple as that. Care to make it exciting? Give Lewis a one year deal, he´d be happy to take it. Let´s find out once and for all who is who. It´s be the most watched Season EVER, take my word.

[@davidgordon7461]

Lol if Ricciardo does get a Red Bull seat, max will spank him and Daniel will get butthurt and leave again. Danny Ric wants a seat! But only if he doesn’t have to compete!

[@TrumpAndKamila]

Helmut acted very poorly re Baku. Max is a dirty driver when under pressure

[@saurlex1368]

Don't get it twisted Ricardo left RB for a reason.

[@willlong3564]

Humility, not humbleness. Good video otherwise

[@theracingban]

If he goes back to redbull he will get demolished maybe less then checo but demolished non the less, the team has built around max so much that anyone else who joins isnt gonna have much of a chance

[@jarrodparker760]

Ricciardo and Verstappen have almost identical driving styles and characteristics (assuming Ricciardo is back to them now that hes left Mclaren). He'd get beaten, but I could see him taking some races here or there

[@tomsilver8241]

Smileyboy is a BAD driver. The only one he can beat is Sargent. Aldas has a crush on smileyboy. LOL

[@arijordan1392]

Dani Ric was better but the team pushedfor max and eventually pushed dani to leave

[@quentinhirschfeld9382]

He was better on what basis exactly? Max has shorter corners and already had softer inputs in the initial turn in phase. He was unpolished, but was faster despite being a teenager, it was clear he was the one with the better potential, RB were right to prioritize him.

[@tommybambam]

Max is a generational talent, let's be real Daniel is not..... If anything i tink Max pushed Daniel and not the otherway around.

[@kitalaham]

Riccardo? His just Clowning around! Afraid of facing Max before, so he went to other team!

[@Paul_C]

Any more open doors you want to kick in?

[@PREDATOR07]

3 Doritos later ...😂

[@willyhwang1059]

RB would take Albon back before Ricciardo

[@Robert1187]

Daniel has no business racing against max, max will destroy him in the worse way possible😂😂😂😂 daniel raced a kiiiid back then. Those days are long gone. Daniel needs to stay at alpha and get handled by yuki.

[@willyhwang1059]

it's nightmare

[@webrevolution.]

The issue for Ricciardo is that he believes he's up there with the big guys, when in reality he is not. There are many interviews he's had where you can see what his goal is and he really believes he can become a world champion. And I have to say that I like him, he seems to be very chill and cool so I'm sure he is a great company to have around and all. But the results speak for themselves and being a nice bloke is not something that helps for the argument of him having the necessary skill to achieve what he says his goals are. Never at any point of his F1 career there would be a moment where you could undoubtably argue him being either the best driver on the grid or even the underdog, aka 2nd best who chases for that championship. He simply is not at that level. There has always been at least a handful of better drivers than him. And even if he manages to find his way into a very dominant car which can give him a head start from anyone who isn't his teammate that wouldn't be enough. He still has to beat the team mate and whoever his teammate in that dominant team might be, he will almost always come out behind. Even if that team wasn't RedBull with Max, it could have been Mercedes with Lewis or Ferrari with Vettel and then Sainz/Leclerc or even McLaren with Lando. He is not good enough for his final goal. And it's genuinely sad to see him being delusional sometimes in some interviews where he talks about what he wants to achieve.

[@moosploum6689]

Riccoardo ATM not better than max in the beginning 2 years yesh but verstappen had to get used to f1

[@Dream-Academy]

A completely imbalnced look. You missed a whole year!! Ricciardo holds the odd distinction of having won more races for McLaren in the last 10 years than Jenson Button, Sergio Perez, Kevin Magnussen, Fernando Alonso, Stoffel Vandoorne, Carlos Sainz and current teammate Lando Norris combined We are now seeing the final nails Perez's coffin. Last year we saw Checo's face when the "third driver" (not "reserve driver") was announced for the first time in history, they would have told Perez that Max wants him out. For Perez's honour and also RB's honour, there will be no public announcement until the contract is actually broken and paid out. He knows he is out and isn't happy. Of course, this makes his driving worse as he is trying to drive as well as Max, and he doesn't have the skill level or the clear, relaxed thought and just blames the car or something else. Perez is more than a major D to crash on purpose in Monaco Q3 last year to ensure he was the lead Redbull in the race and get pit priority and treatment to get the Monaco win. You wouldn't want a driver like that to continue in the team after knowing this for sure. What happened is they looked at the telemetry in detail weeks later and confronted Perez with it. Checo finally admitted to it when confronted with the evidence. Again, they are not going to announce that publicly since RB would be penalised, but this info was leaked after Max refused to give up 6th place for Perez last year. The press has been told to STFU, however, and toe the official line, "RB have a contract with Perez for 2024". Yes, they do until it's broken. Suppose Dan can get a car he likes and get back to where he was before. When he was with Red Bull in an environment that Loved him, his performance was beating Max on points for 2.5 years until he had 6 mechanical DNFs. Likely, he can again match Max beautifully and always pick up the win when Max can't or get a podium as he did in the past, even in a mediocre car that you literally need to throw around corners to be quick. Max and Dan love each other. It's more than respect. They are a marketing bonanza together. Perez, in comparison, needs a charisma transplant. RB doesn't care about his Mexican money; they have sponsors falling over them as world champions and design leaders. RB is now built around Max. In 2018, that was a problem for Dan, particularly after they blamed the Max double move under braking crash on Ricciardo. RB have a history of favouring Blonde Euros over dark Australians, and he left. Now Dan will accept to be No.2. RB doesn't need a driver who is going to come in and do everything he can, including dirty tactics to beat Max. They just need someone to be very close to him, and if that driver can be close to Max personally and have a good vibe at promotions, then that is PERFECT. It couldn't get any better, particularly if Dan is close but not quite as good as he was when he beat Max for 2.5 years until he had 6 mechanical DNFs. Talk of Lando at RB? Even if Lando was available, they don't really want him. Sure, Max, Marko and Christian like and respect him, but he is not the perfect fit or known quantity. Max wants Dan beside him, and so does RB; if he continues to show, he can get back to race fitness and look like he will be solid in an RB again. In Dan's test in RB19, he showed he could get back to where he used to be with some encouragement. The deal is to show you are race-fit and competitive, and we will get you back into the RB as soon as possible. This is why Dan turned down drives for last year from Haas and Williams. He knew that he could have a break and have a good chance of getting his RB seat back.

[@NarcisJunior-m4p]

RICCARDO MADE SOME DUMB DECISSIONS

[@Jvdoka]

hi

[@Igbon5]

Except where Lando kicked his butt from here to Christmas. And then a really good Australian driver arrived and showed how bad Ricciardo was, really.

[@shatest8920]

Too late

[@tonycheung1559]

as much as i like Danny Ric but he is not as good as Max

[@8tonystark8]

just wish you wouldn't talk like a robot...

[@bobodomino]

I love Ricciardo but he was never close to Max's talent.

[@martinusv7433]

Even when he managed to beat VET right after the latter's 4 straight WDC titles, lol?

[@ploppyjr2373]

@@martinusv7433yes, even then