How Good Was: Tokyo Mirage Sessions

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[@Bladehound83]

When we tried to fuse FE and SMT, there was a fusion accident and this popped out instead.

[@Kougaon]

💀💀

[@heroicgangster9981]

And it was an peak demon of a game

[@johanandersson8252]

It pooped

[@Quatro921]

We shoulda just been happy with devil survivor

[@digitalshadowfox720]

@@Quatro921 best serious change my mind

[@Igorcastrochucre]

When the Switch port was announced, they advertized it as Atlus X FE instead of the original SMT x FE. SMT really became an afterthought in its own crossover.

[@PervertedNovaxc3]

Pretty much yeah. You can DEFINITELY see it in the game itself.

[@aokyoutsuki7744]

embarrassed to say persona, i see you atlus

[@Vanity0666]

The game's title is literally TMS I don't know what you're talking about

[@giak0000]

​@@Vanity0666The SMT reference is only found in the western name. In Japan TMS is known as "Genei Ibunroku #FE" meaning "Illusory sidestory #FE". It's the same naming convention they used for the original Persona on PS1 (Megami Ibunroku: Persona or "Goddess sidestory: Persona")

[@allanmhanson]

Should've been Persona x Fire Emble. Persona fans would've love this.

[@davidgeorge1943]

Something I really liked about this game that I wish would at least seep over to Persona is that the Mirages are actual sentient entities capable of talking with their Masters, even outside of the Dark Hour I mean Midnight Channel I mean Metaverse I mean Bizarro World.

[@bored4033]

I mean, in persona 2 characters would reference that their personas would try to warn them about danger. Like they'd say something kinda like: "My persona seems to have a bad feeling about this.... there's danger around."

[@HollowGolem]

...That's just every Shin Megami Tensei game. In those, the demons have personalities, especially in V.

[@unknownuser494]

​@@HollowGolem even in P1 and P2 demons have personalities.

[@forsetimaster0689]

Fun fact: This game exists because Pokemon Conquest (another banger) was already in development, so instead of FE x Pokemon they chose SMT instead.

[@Cyrath89]

Really? Pokemon Conquest was really good. Still waiting for a cheap copy to found (they go around € 200,00! atm)

[@COZYTW]

I actually like TMS, weird as it is. The feel of the game isn't half bad, with some intertext of SMT and FE thrown in here & there. It's got great songs, nice combat and excellent self-aware humour. "Just because you got rejected from a job, that doesn't mean you got to destroy the whole world" is peak comedy

[@Kougaon]

Oh yeah if you can accept the game for it's silliness and what it has to offer it's a good game. I still don't recommend this game at $60 full price though.

[@kurothefox6020]

gasp, I'm not alone

[@GreysonMacAllister]

Yeah I really enjoyed the game too.

[@BlackfangDragon]

I think the most interesting thing about TMS, well besides the fact a post apocalypse caused the inhabitants of Arcanea to turn into emotion/soul-eating demons, was the fact it happens after the bad ending of Mystery of the Emblem.

[@ivanbluecool]

Wish Tokyo mirage sessions would get a discount. I'm not paying full price for it.

[@Chelaxim]

Wii U version is going for 20 bucks on Amazon but the Switch version is going for more than launch price. Nintendo RARELY puts thier games on sale so your best hope is to use the Nintendo Switch Online voucher.

[@therealjaystone2344]

Still to this day at $60 because it’s a Nintendo game. Good luck paying even more via resellers online.

[@allanmhanson]

Just buy a pre owned copy

[@JustaGr8GuyHere]

@ivanbluecool, have you considered buying used physical copies? They can get a good discount.

[@HoodedLefty]

Tokyo Mirage Session fucking slaps, not even joking.

[@Kougaon]

The music is a banger

[@waterpig84]

Yessir, 8 out of 10 for me

[@chaotic_froggy]

Literally just began playing and it's really fun!

[@lunatic0verlord10]

Shame they made so many mistakes that drove away potential customers.

[@Livingeidolon]

If it were a stand alone game I'm sure it'd be a cult classic by now

[@battman505]

this is like the mario and sonic crossover where they went to the olympics

[@DoctorDisasterDracula]

I remember liking Tokyo Mirage Sessions from the little I played of it, but the more I reflect on this game, the more I tilt my head on what it was trying to do. My only guess to why the finished project came out like it did was either Company not feeling synergy with the other, so this was a compromise, but like… why idols??

[@jvts8916]

I think the original was a case of "wrong place, wrong time". Wrong time because nowadays hololive has given a more appealing idea of idol culture to the masses and several of their talents openly admit to being fans of the series. Also because it came out as we were focused on the Fates cast. Wrong place because Fire Emblem isn't exactly known for musicals (even less so in the west that didn't get the JP commercials) as opposed to something more niche like the Marl Kingdom series.

[@mateusgreenwood1096]

Good, the last thing smt needs are simps and their gross cults of personality.

[@therealjaystone2344]

Not to mention 2015 was Nintendo’s worst year of the 2010s decade too

[@DanBickeru]

From what I've read Nintendo also kind of screwed over expectations for the project by jumping the gun and releasing that SMT X FE trailer before the game's concept had even been properly ironed out. Had they waited to announce the whole collaboration with actual footage I think people would have been more willing to give it a shot instead of writing it off as not being what they were "promised."

[@TheNorilla]

A few things with this game. All Switch versions are censored, including the Japanese one, the only one not censored is the Japanese WiiU version (which led to the WiiU version TMS getting a huge spike in sale in the JP eShop when discovered, which was kinda funny). A feature added in the Switch version was the ability to get through battles faster, in the WiiU version, you HAD to watch all of the animations play out ever single time (making nearly every attack take over a minute if you're playing the game effectively). You actually don't have to defeat Yashiro when fighting Excellus (didn't even know you could do that, since Yashiro full healed himself and the boss the one time I attacked it; didn't even figure out what to do with the last part of the fight and just threw Empty Wave at him, use Magic Mirrors (which you can buy for somewhat cheap), and just have the boss defeat itself).

[@sothisthebeginning]

We were robbed. We could’ve had Ashera, Goddess of Order, fist fighting Lucifer! And instead we got the ‘Idolosphere’

[@TheMurphination]

I remember being REALLY excited about this game back when it came out on Wii U! It’s not my favorite game in the world, wouldn’t say it’s a great game either, but looking back, this was actually my first introduction to SMT to an extent, and I look back rather fondly on this game for it! I do wish there was a bit more variety in the character selection though, the FE Warriors games had the same issue.

[@someguywithabirdface2583]

tms is a good game but it was false advertising . we expected medieval fantasy devil survivor

[@renotv3860]

I get what people mean when they say that, but the final product wasn't false advertising because it became a new IP and was no longer SMT x FE.

[@TheMaestroMizerous]

@@renotv3860 That drove away people who might have played this game though.

[@enzoforgets9456]

Thank you tier 3 spell from hit game persona 5, kougaon himself

[@GameBooAdvancePlus]

A Villain From Awakening. A Villain From Awakening. A Villain From Awakening.

[@BigBrotherGnE]

For what it was worth, its a solid experience and perhaps more like a decent introduction to the combat style of SMT. I actually enjoyed the themes of the Japanese entertainment industy and how it really causes people to lose their sense of humanity, all due to chasing fame and fortune. I judge it on its own merit and i feel like its a solid merged entry. I think when the crossover project came together, it was very hard for them to come to a concept without drastically losing one or the other. In one concept, Madeus was supposed to have absorbed the Knowledge of a god, and slowly merged Tokyo with Archanea, essentially bringing The Hero and Aleph into this newly merged world. At least that was rhe rumor before it turned out it was hard to execute.

[@BelBelle468]

It def feels like Persona 4 x Fire Emblem. Since P4 had an idol. It’s funny cuz even tho P4D’s story (all about idols) was just ok, they managed to make an almost worse story w/ this one. And that game was a dancing game where story was mostly unnecessary.

[@Kougaon]

They really should've just said Persona x Fire emblem :(

[@BelBelle468]

​@@Kougaon even the UI reminds me of P4. Considering how much they milked P4, you’d think that saying that would feel way more accurate and would bring in the right audience. I remember not even having played persona or knowing anything about SMT when the game was announced and even I knew the tone was off

[@ventusthekey5187]

I actually like the game. The story isn't spectacular, but if you take it as it is the gameplay is really fun and addictive. And the side stories are really fun! It is fun to note that the game takes place after one of FEs bad endings. I've put over a hundred hours into the switch version just cause I wanted to try and figure out the longest session possible.

[@Nihonguy]

As a fan of both franchises to say i was dumbfounded when i saw that first trailer is an understatment, the fact that it was heavily censored was found out before they released the game in the states, and the switch port is the censored us version in ALL REGIONS nintendo didnt tell anybody that part, i swear its almost like they wanted it to fail lol

[@Kougaon]

It's really interesting how many lengths the went to censor many things. Even the first trailer release had to undergo many changes since the final game.

[@therealjaystone2344]

Intelligent Systems also wanted us to forget about the game existed too

[@torreychapman8114]

I played it about 3 years back. Definitely enjoyed it. It filled my persona void since I had just beaten persona 3-5 for the first time.

[@XshadowcardsX]

“I will never forgive the Japanese” -Joseph Joestar

[@kurokutarou9355]

😭 I always see people say this game is horrible but I gen really liked it and would 100% play again on my switch

[@Kougaon]

One playthrough is enough for me LOL but yeah the game wasn't that bad

[@orangeboi523]

These long form videos are great. Hope you keep making more of them.

[@Kougaon]

Oh thanks man I appreciate that!

[@Noumakara]

i played Tokyo Mirage Sessions before any smt and fe games and I ended loving it a lot. And I started to play smt and fe games too

[@Kirusei]

Despite most people being disappointed for it being an SMTxFE crossover, I actually loved it a lot. Ended up getting a copy of the special edition a while back when the Wii U was still relevant and also got the switch version

[@korinomeku5957]

I played TMS#FE on the Wii U and it was one of my favorite Wii U games ngl

[@gayjebus4079]

I'm going to be honest. I know that there are a couple of games that beat this one on the Wii u but God was this one of the few good ones. I would put Xenoblade Chronicles x above it though

[@korinomeku5957]

@@gayjebus4079 xenoblade X is personally the only one i would put above this. But i really enjoyed my time with this game. I truly think a lot of the "problems" stem from people having false expectations.

[@gayjebus4079]

@@korinomeku5957 I 100% agree. I think that if this was just released as its own game it would lose some of its charm but part of the issue for the game was people's expectations. Also I love the fact that the final two dungeons cannot escape atlas's love of block puzzles.

[@Kougaon]

I am thankfully for the switch port for having many quality of life updates. I honestly would lose my mind at some of the stuff I heard from the Wii U version.

[@simone5760]

​@@Kougaon100% completed it on Wii U some months ago. What did it change

[@ivanbluecool]

Fire emblem collabs: codename steam. Tokyo mirage sessions. Warriors. Project x zone 2. Smash. I think monster hunter too. Wish the amiboo had more functions like codename steam and fire emblem fates giving you the characters to play with. It's awesome and makes amiboo a good purchase knowing they get many uses in the future for free. Didn't find Fe warriors that good. Compared to other warriors games it was bland. But I did love the supports we got from tharja and robin Camila and all the other people. It was cool to see how they interact

[@vida23legal]

i love tokyo mirage session is so good and have so good music ( i have the wii u and swtch ver.)

[@vida23legal]

but it was persona x fe

[@iambecomegameend2972]

I still remember being hyped for the collab from the teaser then being sooo confused when the game released lol. I was expecting a project X zone since they showed all those characters. It would’ve been really interesting seeing them interact. Also, I wanted to ask, does itsuki seem like too much of a blank slate in this game? When I was watching a playthough it felt like he didn’t have any hobbies or aspirations. Like he just sits in a room and stares at a wall until the plot calls for him again lol.

[@Kougaon]

Oh yeah Itsuki was 100% a blank slate. He was just a background guy to help everyone else shine better.

[@kindred6453]

From what I've played I enjoyed my time with it, I do want to finish it eventually. Its just kinda chill rpg game to me.

[@Eclin]

No one would bat an eye if this isn’t advertised as a SMTxFE, it would be a hidden gem.

[@danipatac7210]

I recently bought the game, IT'S FREAKING AWESOME!

[@kossemoore3342]

Its funny because game like atlus' upcoming game metaphor is what is what mybrain was envisioning when i first heard of a project cross over between fmt and fire emblem.

[@lukedelameter7961]

I really wanted to like this game and I did enjoy a good deal of my time with it, but it’s just immensely average. Every plus has a con attached. Allow me to go into detail. Music: the J-Pop is really good, with The Labyrinth being one of my favorite tracks. The dungeon themes however are irritating by and large, which isn’t something you want to hear when you spent a great deal of time in them. Gameplay: The way characters learn new skills from weapons is a fun bit of customization and growth, so you’re not grinding excessively for levels or skills. However, the way Sessions work in this game means that your reward for an optimal team is longer battles. The switch port does have a fast forward button, but that’s really more of a bandaid than a cure. Story: There’s no getting around it. The main plot just isn’t interesting. It really burns because there was one very easy change they could have made: have Tsubasa fail in chapter one, and make saving Aya a recurring thread; gives Tsubasa a more compelling motivation, and adds stakes to these miniature episodes. Itsuki’s blandness is well documented. To my knowledge the only personality quirk he has is becoming an incredibly verbose food critic. I think a lot of his problems stem from the fact that he isn’t allowed to have a hobby; he doesn’t watch a lot of TV for the express purpose of having other characters exposit to him about their projects. Take FFX in contrast, Tidus is an audience surrogate in that he doesn’t know how Spira works, but he’s also a fully fledged character who develops over time. If they’d given Itsuki something, anything, to have a little bit more agency to him, he could have been a compelling addition to an already good cast. For all my gripes though, the cast is genuinely fun, and the side missions are a perfect bit of side content. If I were to improve on it, I would probably want to add two-person stories where we see more individual dynamics. The bottom line is, try it for yourself if your truly interested, spend a good fourty hours or so, but not at 60 dollars, and not if you know you’ll enjoy other games more.

[@Scerttle]

I have a deep appreciation for this game. It helped me get a bunch of people into SMT as a “my first SMT” style game. I got a fair bit of fun out of it myself, but using it for recruitment is the biggest part of its appeal to me.

[@nnetto]

I love this game so much that I bought it on both wiiu and switch. It's silly, of course, but the gameplay is soooo good...

[@Kuroshor]

Love this game. So happy they rereleased it on the switch!

[@BigBossBelmont-tk4hj]

This game is a true masterpiece and deserves so much more credit than it gets. Would buy it a hundred times over with my hard earned dollar.

[@selectioncrescimento]

The middle boss theme of this game fucking slaps tho

[@Arsilfarid]

I actually really loved this game. It absolutely has flaws and rough edges--dungeons in particular feel extremely tedious and even somewhat archaic in their use of "puzzles" and gimmicks--but the lighthearted idol-story and bright, snappy colors were an extremely refreshing change of pace. The music was a banger, the characters were very likable even if they weren't revolutionary, and the carnage system was really sweet. It's not a 10/10 game by any means, but I do think it receives an undue amount of criticism. I guess I'm one of the few people who enjoys both FE and SMT and also liked this game. I did feel like the battle system is where the most homage was paid to SMT--even if Sessions weren't exactly the same as press-turn mechanics, they were obviously inspired by them, and I'll even say I had a lot more fun with Sessions than press-turn mechanics even if the latter are technically more refined. Basically, I think TMS made for a great comfort-food kind of game. It wasn't amazing, but if you could check your expectations at the door and enjoy it for what it was, I think it had a lot of really fun ideas on offer. I also really do think my only major gripe with the game was in its dungeon design--I'd be lying if I said their nonsense bs didn't sometimes almost put me off from the game and make me want to quit playing. The manakin dungeon in particular can go straight to hell for how obnoxious and dull it was. Lastly, it might be worth mentioning that I played on hard (glad Lunatic wasn't available right away). The game definitely had teeth and wasn't a pushover, although sometimes certain battles felt extremely unfair/unbalanced on that difficulty. For that reason, even if the normal difficulty is a bit too easy, I'd still recommend it over Hard. Or, it might be one of those games where it's worth changing difficulty as you go based on your frustration-level. I definitely enjoyed the Hard difficulty most of the time, but I think I would have enjoyed the game more if I had dropped it down to normal for certain, specific boss battles.

[@heroicgangster9981]

Tokyo Mirage Sessions is a great game to me that basically feels like it could be the prototype for a Persona 1/2 remake. I love the gameplay, the dungeon explorations, the added-on social events between each chapter of the game, the use of all available characters in the game itself via the Sessions mechanic, and also THE MUSIC IS BANGERRRRR.

[@AmberStallion]

Well one good thing for me came from it. I got this as a gift for Christmas, and I'd never played a Persona game before. I did play Fire Emblem (just some newer games), so that helped peek my interest. The story is nothing to write home about, but I liked the fight style enough. I've played many rpgs and turn-based games before, but not specifically this style. It's what pushed me to finally try Persona 5 Royal, because I figured I might like the fight system in that as well. Not to mention, I did hear much better things about the stories and characters of the Persona games. Not sure if I'd recommend Tokyo Mirage Sessions as a starter pack to get one interested in the Persona or Shin Megami Tensei games. Probably just better to recommend one of the real deals outright. Only thing I'd say TMS has over them is it's less complicated of a game. Can't mess up too bad in TMS other than dying on a boss fight due to being under-leveled or not catching onto the boss's weakness in time. But everything worked out for me at least.

[@nyx3983]

finished this game a few yrs ago on switch. solid 7/10 rpg. improving equipment && fe upgrades were a lot of fun. wish we did get something more grounded in both series.

[@Kougaon]

I feel the exact same way 100%

[@astreakaito5625]

I liked seeing something new. The concept is wild and was interesting to me. But then Nintendo goes and censor it all, because blood = good, cute = BAD garbage colonialism- I mean, """localization"""". Being on the WiiU didn't help. Yes this game should have been announced as an SMT spinoff but that's it's only mistake.

[@luissaumeth8000]

The game had potential, and marketing as a crossover with persona instead of SMT as a whole would have helped it 100% more. Hope it doesn't become a totally dead IP and we get a second game somedya (copium)

[@chasecollins3720]

Having 100% this game, all I can remember is the boss theme kinda slaps, and the grind, combined with the map design, brought my blood to a boil just shy of Soul Hackers 2.

[@sekkushi]

i loved this game when it came out on the wii u and i played through it all again when it came out on the switch, one of my favorite ips for sure, and funnily enough, even though i went in as a fan of neither FE or SMT/Persona, i ended up playing more of those games because of this one LOL

[@gfkgrgrkm]

Ask a friend how the game was, he said it was Persona Lite😂

[@madelinerodgers9072]

Ok before I watch this video Tokyo mirage sessions was an immensely fun and silly game and I loved every second of it

[@BruntPixels1234]

4:25 This scares your average Persona fan to the core.

[@Balbaneth]

I loved this game and putting it on hardest difficulty i didn't feel it was horrendous but spoke of how good the combat system was when really put to the test. Being a fan of both games i was pleasantly surprised and ended up enjoying the entirety of this game as a whole. Wish the combat system from sessions to duo attacks etc would come back in a different form. Hearing the crowd cheer you on when you played correctly was quite adrenaline pumping with the Ost was so damn good. I dunno this was severely underrated

[@FreakinSweet1987]

The game was excellent. I didn't know people had a problem with it. Extremely underrated gem.

[@Sigismund697]

literally and I mean LITERALLY all they had to do was take the opening of FE Awakening and change time travel for demons then literally just copy paste the gameplay of Devil Survivor, make it HD and Misson accomplished, you have million seller on your hands but no, somehow and I really mean somehow you end up with an idol game and somehow your game flops TWICE yet you still have a job and the first thing you do is make Soulless Lackers 2 where you SOMEHOW manage to make another game that alienates two fanbases and appeals to literally no one Damn

[@SnailBot]

Really like the review of old game other than FF14 which I don't really play anymore.

[@Kougaon]

Glad to hear!

[@gayjebus4079]

I have so many questions. One of them is why do people so mad about the censorship for visuals. I really enjoy not seeing scantily cloud women in my video games mostly because I'm gay and just not interested. Also, I'm even more okay with not seeing skin to decline when one of them is 17 precensorship.

[@Kougaon]

Yeah the outrage from the censorship was a bit more than I expected at the time.

[@michaelhall736]

Because people don't enjoy cut content. If you're actually defending the censorship of that wedding dress then there is something wrong with you. Also, who cares? She's a video game changer, not a real person. It's sjws like you games are continuing to be censored because you bootlick the companies for doing because something you personally don't like got censored.

[@michaelhall736]

Because people don't like cut content in their games. If you're defending the censorship of that wedding dress then there is something wrong with you. And who cares? That girl who's censorship you're defending is not real, she's a video game character. As in she doesn't exist.

[@NicoTreecko]

Advertising really hurt the game. Actually playing the game is fun, and honestly, the best RPG battle experience because of the session mechanic, the ad libs are fun surprise super moves, and DUOs are cinematic mega moves that enhance your sessions. It's just very light hearted and heavily stylized, and it nails the style that it's going for. Plus the music is great and the performance focus makes sense in respect to the theme and tone of the game. I honestly would love a sequel with more characters (the switch port added them to sessions but I would've loved Barry as berserker, Maiko as a dancer or wyvern rider, and Tiki as part members would've been amazing) and even more mirage classes to use with a 4 party system.

[@TheMaestroMizerous]

If they make a sequel I fear it will likely sell less personally I would want a real SMT x FE game to see if it could do better.

[@tuney7319]

Tbf the stories in smt aren’t that varied either, it’s mainly just “demons are breaking out in tokyo again, and you’re the chosen one, go fight god or something”

[@kohphran]

SMT is more character based in that regard. They can be very basic Law n Chaos like in SMT 1 and 4. or a bit more nuanced like in Nocturne. TMS has none of that

[@HansAlRachid]

I actually bought and completed the Switch version, but aside from some basic visuals and parts of one song I genuinely can not remember a single other thing about that game. I'm sure it must play okay, otherwise I would have dropped it, but to leave absolutely no impression whatsoever? That's kind of an achievement in and of itself.

[@pseudorider050]

I adore this game! Easily within my Top 10 favorites

[@Cruddyhorse]

I don't care if TMS actually ended up being good on it's own I can't play it without feeling eternally robbed of what could have been.

[@makisbizarreadventure4669]

Man people hated this game but I loved this shit. AND YA KNOW WHAT? IM BOUT TO RE DOWNLOAD IT AND I CANT BE STOPPED

[@Cyrath89]

I still have to finish the game (that's on me, I'm bad at finishing games), but I do want to return and finish it.

[@Zwangsdemokrat]

This game has more endings than Return of the King.

[@SammaS423]

The only reason i know about this game is because scott the woz talk about it

[@lemon.1036]

12 year me even confused if this was a SMT-FE crossover game or persona-FE, or FE in postmodern era.

[@grotus5549]

This game having to be SMT x FE murdered it from two fronts. I loved what this game was trying to be, and more probably would have enjoyed it if it was its own thing from the start. I also have trashy taste, so I could be horribly biased towards the idol culture aspect of the Archanean Persona Idol Game.

[@ShermTank7272]

For what it is, TMS is fine. But so many of us wished it was quite different.

[@RatKingRussian]

I never this game even existed but god knows imma video essay addict

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

ah yes, the game that was supposed to be a crossover between SMT and FE, but instead took the lamest of persona and a bunch of fanservice. and then censored the fanservice. I'm glad this game got destroyed, I don't want to see something as misguided as this ever again -_-

[@BelBelle468]

It’s got its fans. There’s a good idea in there, they really should’ve taken cues from P4D. Both talk about the idol industry, and the game is so reminiscent of P4. They should’ve leaned more into that in production and even marketed it with Persona over SMT. The mirage powers are like personas too. And rather than having characters look like or just reference FE, they should’ve maybe tried to treat it like an FE AU. An FE AU in the modern era. The personas could’ve been the same, tapping into the old medieval side, but the cast could meet this universe’s Tiki for example

[@GalderaVG]

I'm ngl I went into this game not expecting much as FE Engage kind of soured FE for me personally, but ngl I really enjoyed Tokyo Mirage sessions I just wish there was a dash button lol

[@gazeffmhu2374]

played it on wii U i loved it and i am saving up for when it goes on sale ln switch, the game is silly but i loved the gameplay

[@therealjaystone2344]

Just emulate it better for $0 because no discounts for the switch version (digital too) at all other than you paying more via resellers

[@Missiletainn]

It wasn't bad, easy question.

[@LLnic]

When I started the game I didn’t know what to expect but after that opening intro with reincarnation I was fully hyped to play just to see what other banger songs was in the game. My only disappointment was that the dia witch theme song didn’t have a amv.

[@davidgeorge1943]

Oh man, if the elitists don't like the Persona newbies, wait till they hear that this game was my SMT introduction. Also, does anyone else remember that very early announcement trailer with an M rating?

[@BMoser-bv6kn]

Hahaha..... .... and then they wouldn't even allow us normal everyday cleavage. Awesome marketing. Meets consumer hopes and expectations.

[@therealjaystone2344]

SMTV and they hated that too because the bad storyline

[@flastyy_]

I never finished TMS because one simple thing that threw me out of it completely: "The game relies heavily on idol culture, your teammates are idols, they sing in battle, they wear idol costumes... Oh by the way, you're playing a random generic fucking guy who literally doesn't give a shit about idol culture. Have fun!" What made it even worse was that he got to have his own Persona style awakening, but the girl? Nah, she couldn't do it on her own, she had to be given her awakening by Generic MC #251646 That cutscene pissed me off so much I uninstalled the game immediately after.

[@therealjaystone2344]

Not to mention he is also the manager too

[@shiningstar737]

9:09 so kinda like arcanas, they are the means by which all is revealed

[@kurtmorales7644]

I think it was a miss fire, they collaborated with the wrong Megami Tensei series. Mainline and most Spind off SMT games have quite serious themes of freedom vs safety, destiny vs. self-actualization, and a lot more heavy stuff. An FE and SMT still could work, but they added an idol theme to the mix?! It was out of left field! It blindsided the two fandoms, turning off many fans. If Fe Mirage Sessions was a Persona colab then the idol-theming wouldn't be that much of a turn-off. While Persona still deals with heavy themes and subjects, it's lighter compared to mainline, especially later entries. At the time P4 was the main Persona game, so the Idol theming wouldn't be that out of place thanks to Rise and Dancing all night.

[@Kyubeyisbestboy]

I actually remember a lot of the fe fans i know of loving this game but i didnt know any smt fans so i couldnt say what they thought of it. At the time i didnt know smt or anything atlus for that matter aside morgama from persona 5 so i just saw it as another fire emblem game.

[@JoshuaPAMployee]

This is such an underrated JRPG. I agree it should have called been calked PERSONA x FE but SMT PERSONA because it's OLD SCHOOL PERSONA where you play through a story and NOT THE BORING DAY TO DAY LIFE NEW AGE PERSONA forces on everyone. It was such a refresher to be reminded of the old school Persona

[@boshwa20]

So being an idol was old school persona?

[@therealjaystone2344]

Atlus x FE crossover was also far too late

[@TheMaestroMizerous]

I don't remember idols being that important in Persona 1 and 2.

[@isegard2957]

fan of both serie here and I love TMS. the theme not the best but man story and gameplay is quite unique and fun

[@Kougaon]

I'm with you

[@koemon_exe]

This game needs a sequel

[@bladerdj3503]

It was really good

[@LynKazoyuu]

I wish I played more of FE but hey we got 14 😅

[@Kougaon]

FE is a goated series if you ever plan on playing!!

[@The_Pikaboi]

"They made Tiki Hatsune Miku" So yeah, better than any other Atlus game

[@dave9515]

Censorship stuff was kinda creepy and absurd but outside of that game is really fun and a great goofy ride. The duets and showtimes were fun to use and Yashiro counter killing everything will never not be funny. Session system was really fun as well. The grind system wasn't implemented the best so the bandaid of teh books was made but outside of some of the grind stuff its really fun and the switch version made getting incenses easier and the bonuse dungeon boss is beatable as early as level 25 so its pretty great. It would have probably been recieved better if it was treated as its own thing more. Music is also pretty good.

[@Dalehan]

With all the in combat banter they do, I really wish they would've at least added subtitles for those somewhere. But I guess the UI is full enough as it is, and adding in some subtitles there wasn't even a consideration from the Japanese branch of development.

[@jellyface401]

The Persona of Jpop Games

[@SagaSagaVGM]

TMS is a great game. Cool clickbait video title though.

[@funninoriginal6054]

Yeah like who would even dare criticize the mediocre weeb game with idols where the fans openly got mad about just because nintendo decided it should have less cleveage

[@thereseemstobeenanerror1219]

Is it click bait if it actually reflects the creator's feelings?

[@erensy641]

I'd say not having a Joker from Persona 5 costume is a technical problem Also ngl I really like the SMT DS 2 protagonist

[@darciheadswillroll]

IMO I think Pokémon in a competitive sense or in fan made rom hacks that push the mechanics for pokemon is the only thing that comes close to persona and smt combat Also then increasing the ages is the best thing they could’ve done

[@gayjebus4079]

I 100% understand cringing at this game, but at the same time it's a fun romp of an adventure where the entire point of it is essentially just the power of friendship and being an anime star. If you take this game for what it is, it is a very enjoyable experience. If the power friendship makes you want to go kill something, don't play the game because that is the plot. Like every modern fire of them game. A very big part of it is going to be the power of friendship

[@Kougaon]

Oh yeah I accept the cringe 100%

[@MartinHernandez-xv1mc]

Sessions feel adjacent to the demon co op in SMT Strange Journey to me.

[@allanmhanson]

It's made by Atlus themselves. I adore this game.

[@yoshimansxl]

I actually quite like this one......lol.

[@grumpysheep3710]

Sorry but I don't believe that Tokyo Mirage was a bad game or collaboration. I thought it was fun and REALLY good. It was fun to play and listen to the music, I though it was a pretty good game. Especially since I'm not that into Fire Emblem, not that I don't like it, but I'm not playing EVERY single game. Just here and there.

[@Kougaon]

I agree

[@latinogamer1012]

It would've been well received if it wasn't announced as a crossover between SMT and FE.

[@toledochristianmatthew9919]

It should have been a crossover with persona especially since p4 had rise as an idol and Atlus was releasing that p4 dancing game at the same time as tms.

[@Hawkatana]

1:14 Out of curiosity, which FE games have you played?

[@The_Blunicorn]

Yooo I love this game, it's one of my most played gamed on the Switch