How Greg Monroe's NBA Career Faded Away...

[@HenryZhoupokemon]

As a pistons fan, I remember in 2013-14 there would be games where Blaha would commentate, “KCP makes a 3, brining the pistons back within 20” every other game or so

[@walterwhite1215]

😭😭😭

[@WildDanHibiki]

😂

[@Terror832]

*Victims of the Modern NBA* Al Jefferson Roy Hibbert Jahlil Okafor Greg Monroe

[@wzg8804]

Enes Kanter + NBA prospect Vernon Carey

[@im_waffles2920]

thelegendsqb1 yo I haven’t heard the name Roy Hibbert in a while.

[@smittywerbenjagermanjensen4737]

thelegendsqb1 Roy hibbert destroyed himself Rudy gobert plays the same way he does and al is not a victim whatsoever

[@im_waffles2920]

William Garcia from what I’ve seen (which admittedly isn’t much) but Vernon Carey seems to be able to stretch the floor a little bit.

[@adhiyaksamahardika7310]

Drummond too

[@SpeedHomeAttack]

Greg Monroe simplified •Wrong Era •Wrong Team •Terrible defense for a center

[@ethanuy2261]

Couldn’t develop an outside shot

[@SpeedHomeAttack]

@@roboticactivities Yes I saw his strengths, that's why I said he was in the wrong era & team. Any other team could've help to develop him better, and a better era would have his game used perfectly.

[@notoriousmedia4575]

I was just about to say that.. my man playing in the wrong era. And that’s all there is to it

[@peterlin5032]

So jahlil okafor is pretty much him

[@sarc4sm68]

Hey jokic is terrible on defense also. So why is that?

[@BrandonGiordano]

I remember when Andre Drummond and Greg Monroe were a nightmare to play against on 2K. I always wondered what happened to him

[@soullessSiIence]

Video games are the perfect example of what would happen if talent was taken to its full potential. If players actually committed 100%. Maybe in another universe Josh Smith, Monroe and Drummond would have taken the Pistons to the conference finals at the very least.

[@aaronsutter1155]

Despair nah josh smith was so bad for the pistons they should have never played him at SF

[@BrandonGiordano]

@@aaronsutter1155 word, he played alright defense but I think he was a little too slow to compete against SFs. Plus he couldn't shoot

[@aaronsutter1155]

Brandon Giordano it especially sucks when he take 4 3s a game because he’s a sf and has to shoot, but only shoots like 24%

[@TheAfghan72]

Funny, i had all 3 on my leauge on the pistons and we won 3 championships.

[@a1gamer561]

Remember when the Pistons had Monroe Josh Smith and Andre Drummond in the same starting lineup

[@taintedtapper]

A1 Gamer dont forget brandon jennings who turned into a beast right after smith was traded ... then got an achilles smh

[@garyserminio1487]

that was actually good team in 2k

[@lightningjimmyjoejohnson8499]

Yeah the SB Nation video of the Piston’s downfall made me know that

[@Terror832]

That lineup would’ve been killer in the 90s/early 2000s. Paint would be super clogged tho

[@lilkodak8702]

A1 Gamer that was not a good lineup😂😂

[@antmj2335]

He got his chance tonight! Good to see him back helping lead a young team to victory!!

[@reactjj20hp46]

Back on the bucks nowwww

[@TheMeefive]

Even at Georgetown he didn't have a winning mindset. Sometimes he was unstoppable other times he was unmotivated

[@Nothing-nd2rz]

Do How good was Zydrunas Ilgauskas actually?

[@bakgammon]

Great jumper.

[@TheyCallMeSledge]

@@bakgammon Agreed and that's what I usually see and expect from European big men. Their lack of inner physicality is made up for their high percentage in mid-range jumpers. A big similar to the Big Z today would be Nikola Jokic with the added trait that the Joker can shoot from anywhere.

[@Milesgoat]

Nothing yes the goat🐐💯

[@abdulmajidsalleh4700]

Lowkey he was the best centre that LeBron ever played with. If we consider Anthony Davis and Bosh to be power forwards

[@h4rshturtle456]

@@abdulmajidsalleh4700 true

[@StreetsAhead120]

It’s sad that Greg Monroe faded away & classified himself as obsolete OBSOLETE!

[@kl2389]

DELETE! OBSOLETE!

[@marin3933]

DELETE! DELETE! DELETE!

[@zg8493]

The Pistons of DEEEEEETROIIIIIIIT

[@lastfewtokes]

Fucking tremendous wrestling thread. Makes me happy.

[@joshuaesteban1120]

OBSOLETE!!!

[@tmac731]

I always thought Greg Monroe was 30s his whole career. GREG MONROE, that name sounds like a old person

[@Tokenblackguru101]

Tyler McGee Such a basic name 😂😂

[@casanjt8515]

All the gregs..greg oden lol

[@KingDayDayDay00]

Lmao I said the same thing about his name.

[@tmac731]

Jervon Casanova Greg oden looked old in 2007

[@darkangels119]

Lmao he really belonged in the earlier decades of the NBA, he even looked like he did...

[@Lenrom12]

Same thing that Happened to Jahlil Okafor and Al Jefferson. The NBA changed right under their feet and doesn’t value straight post up players and longer. Sad cause Greg and Jahlil woulda been stars in the early 2000’s

[@TheFrostbite324]

Lenrom12 Jefferson just got old before the NBA shifted to pace and space

[@joecool8290]

Exactly, had he been drafted 10 years earlier, extended his range out to the three-point line or become a better/more versatile defender then he would still be in the NBA. They play more of a physical, traditional game inside in Europe & he'd dominate in China, so his career won't likely end anytime soon.

[@Lenrom12]

TheFrostbite324 true he was on his last leg, it’s just the change made him useless like 3-4 years earlier

[@Lenrom12]

inttruders Easier to defend when you aren’t being forced out to the 3 point line though.

[@545047]

Lenrom12 Al was still getting buckets, even during the time the league was changing. Just got old

[@sedricgo1563]

He would fit more in the 90s or early 2000s because big men are usually posting up instead of spreading the floor.

[@sedricgo1563]

True Andre Ricardo Bryant

[@sedricgo1563]

He could be effective if he has a 15 foot jumper. With a jumper, he could be effective but defense is still a problem.

[@sedricgo1563]

I'm not saying that he needs the elite defense to succeed, i'm just saying that he could be effective if he changed his game even a bit.

[@MultiCardsfan1]

I forgot all about him! I always liked him thought he was underrated. Sad he hasn’t gotten another shot

[@jakewallace6501]

He played for the 76ers last year

[@yayhay1]

He just got one with the Timberwolves and was one assist from a double double

[@ViNguyen-tt2in]

Damn Andy Hoops is underrated Keep it up ✊

[@z4ng3tsu1ch1g0]

I remember facing the Pistons on 2k13 and 2k14 and it was so annoying cuz u couldn't grab a single defensive Reb on some possessions cuz of Monroe and Drummond

[@JocaloPR]

Not me watching this video, right after he got signed

[@GothPaoki]

He's underperforming even overseas.He never developed his game.

[@SonicDMonkey]

@Keevon Jones Not great, not terrible. 13 points, 7 rebounds. Here: www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=009835&seasoncode=E2019

[@BoxCJ206er]

Probably a fitness issue

[@charlesandrecuadra8569]

He played great overseas, what are you talking?

[@slayerfotis7]

He is really underperforming. Bayern had hopes for Euroleague Playoffs bringing a lot of ex NBA players, instead they are one the worst teams in the whole league, especially defensively. They were doing relatively bad even in the German League. Monroe against the good Euroleague teams often disappeared and was very detrimental on defense. Him and Booker are a nightmare defensive duo. He could flourish in a different team, but it is hard because the game in Europe is going really small and really fast paced for the last 8 years or so. Maybe China would be a better fit for him.

[@grabynko936]

@@slayerfotis7 of course China would be a better fit. Beacuse in China basketball is on way lower level

[@Jared1C]

That “Death Lineup” was dominate in 2k14

[@legendarycollection7184]

Not so dominant, but totally playoff team like nets, all overall team was good even it bench.

[@emo_LeBron]

bro KCP jumpshot was a glitch, i would drop 20 with him in the first quarter and have ppl quitting right after

[@stats2002TheSportsEncyclopedia]

The correct word would be "dominant", not "dominate".

[@drawval6984]

Am i the only one whos gonna point out that he said "without any further ado, lets get started" then ..he does the complete opposite?

[@darraarljod8911]

Yo what fr

[@1antoniodelao]

Just had a great game with the wolves, it’s not over yet

[@robertlee3584]

Do a video on John Salmons or Jason Richardson. I think that would be interesting. Keep up the good work Andy.

[@adamamster1279]

He did one on Jason Richardson today.

[@SuperNoah160]

As a Bucks fan I was so excited when they signed him. Then he never really made a huge impact

[@bentep0511]

Same when he went with the Celtics.

[@hibachiagent0249]

Not true, he's my backup center in 2k20. Averaging a nice 11ppg and 6rpg.

[@kevooffsanpedro4252]

Facts 😂💯

[@supratrd900]

Do one if Run TMC never broken up. Even though all 3 ended up having solid to HOF career elsewhere. Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond and Chris Mullin would've been something special had they remain together. To me Richmond was the 2nd best SG next to Michael and Clyde. Use to give MJ fit offensively.

[@POPINTHETAPE]

I remember liking his game and not wanting him traded from the Pistons

[@benn255b3]

I think when he got to his prime the league had no room for a big man who couldn't spread the floor and shoot 3s.

[@sevy12006]

Men this guy used to be so good back when he was with the bucks and pistons, I came here right away after I randomly remembered him

[@LordeSwaggy]

“Without further adue, lets get started..... but first i would like to talk about my sponsor”

[@TC-pp7hx]

Me: skip, skip, skip

[@theblocknewz1518]

Do Kurt Thomas He was In the nba for 18 years

[@solascriptura-e7t]

I was hoping that my Hawks would make a play on Monroe, when the Pistons were looking to scrap him. Was thinking he might be "a poor man's version of Tim Duncan" (based on the pre draft scouting report).

[@rh_312]

I can’t wait till you hit 1 million subscribers

[@emanboatengjr]

Who’s here after the wolves signed him

[@jamespatricknacisvalencia7418]

I think in 2019 he played for all four Eastern Conference semi-finalists; essentially securing a championship in case any of those East teams won it in the Finals.

[@Zlics]

"people would rather die than watch them" lmfaoo

[@daking3189]

As a pistons die hard this video is very accurate to the way we felt

[@joro808]

I was a big piston fan during this period he was a walking double double

[@SunsGeek]

I was always a fan of Greg Monroe, i was at the Suns shoot around his first day in Phoenix during his short time with the Suns. Too bad what happened to his career, i hope he's happy.

[@hendrygiandynantheo2324]

Man, this guy was a beast on 2k14

[@PJJ196]

Dude I love these videos .. keep em coming

[@miguelbraz2629]

Hey man great video as always. Could you do one about Nick Van Exel, Glen Rice or Antoine Walker too? Very overlooked careers

[@gallurah]

He can thrive in the Heat Culture 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@tiowillyasmr7451]

Ernst Gall not with toxic jimmy

[@wdr1419]

@@tiowillyasmr7451 yeah because having a 41-24 record and 4th in the east is so toxic right??

[@chrisweber6090]

@@wdr1419 don't mean shit they could ony beat like the pacers in a series 76ers boston Toronto would smack them out the year easily

[@chrismathgenius]

@@chrisweber6090 Well your take didn't age well since they eliminated the Bucks.

[@nashcajeda5801]

Nice video as alwasys andy. I hope we can find a story about michael finley.

[@Levan4KGaming]

Loved Monroe so much his offensive game was so impressive

[@robertolebron2296]

Are you gonna do Andrew Bynum? Chris Kaman? Elton Brand? Also it’s not the trumpets but it’s still a good video Andy

[@okcthunder0872]

Roberto Lebron I think he did all of those videos already if I’m not mistaken

[@TheAfghan72]

It seems like any player that gets drafted or traded to the Pistons always either has a mediocre career or is out of the league. Like Stanley Johnson, Brandon Knight or Greg Monroe. And this pains to say as a Pistons fan.

[@benvenutojn8960]

You better hope Cade aint a bust cause he looks unconvincing.

[@seandaniels7938]

Man Monroe was one of my favorite players on the Pistons if he could have developed his game to play power forward him and Drummond would have been a great duo

[@sharonhagai3425]

You can't really be good with two traditional big men in today's nba

[@seandaniels7938]

@@sharonhagai3425 ik but rebounding and points in the paint would have been insane

[@abdulmajidsalleh4700]

Great video Andy You should do a video on all the players that the NBA left behind

[@phillysports9242]

he actually looked to be somewhat of a serviceable backup center last year in the playoffs. he just isn’t the typical modern day center. i think he would only fit with certain teams that are used to having a center that clogs the lane and gets rebounds.

[@jovanbelegisanin289]

That assessment of Josh Smith's game was just over the top Andy, come on... He was signed, coming off his best 2 seasons as a pro, averaging 18/9 on a playoff team that emphasized passing and teamwork, being one of the most versatile defenders in the league (being top 10 in DPOY race is not THAT impressive, but still, it says something about his defense), being a pretty nice passer, and up to that point in his career, although still inefficient, he would typically finish season shooting from high 40's from the field (and 50-ish percent TS%), which i guess led them to believe that, with age, he would be more disciplined and stick to his strengths. Had he played 4 as he should've, i do believe he actually would've paired quite well with both Drummond and Monroe, but alas, we got to watch the Death lineup. To be fair though, it's not like the frontcourt was the only issue, Jennings and KCP were both terrible shooters in their own rights, Jennings being a big time shot chucker, and generally having subpar IQ offensively, while KCP was a rookie and took him some time to get used to NBA 3, on top of being inconsistent as hell.

[@KingClipps]

I remember him from last year on the Sixers. He deserves to be in the nba.

[@theoriginalstrechbig6413]

It chance that Greg Monroe to come back. He just needs become mid range marksman to make opportunities for him as well as others. Shout to you @AndyHoops been subscribed with the bell on blue settings all for min. Keep with the good content.

[@itsthatatm8345]

Spot on take, I like Monroe but I like old school bully ball and I think that he has an 80's style play... Thank you for your videos, they are nothing short of amazing...

[@abduugas]

Josh Smith really never played defence 🤣🤣

[@TheAfghan72]

He did on Atlanta

[@75aces97]

This sort of thing never happened until a few years ago. Monroe didn't get injured and didn't become any worse, but the brand of ball that teams play rendered him the kind of big that no team wants anymore.

[@SirRiley2]

Shocked that the Spurs, Warriors, Heat didn’t sign him as a C

[@kameronallen2181]

I always thought that the reason why he didn't succeed was because his style of play practically died because of the rise of the 3 point shot and stretching the floor

[@robertmanalo]

Sir Andy hoops how good was Derek Fisher my request.. thank

[@laila2607]

You

[@rayboy5508]

REALLY GOOD YOU DIMWIT. JUST GOOGLE HIM AND YOU'LL SEE

[@lil_james1584]

A great role player. Not a superstar or even a star individual wise. But a great role player. A guy who knew his role and played it to perfection.

[@dwaters279]

Wolves fans what’s up!

[@muhammadbarokah81]

So Detroit is a current hell hole for sports city, replacing Cleveland. Pistons : Complete mediocre without future Tigers : Still tanking without end Lions : Wait until they blew up their Walmart. Patriots Red Wings : Still no indication of coming back

[@geraldclydeabella3350]

All in Common: Bad Front Office and Miss Chance of top pick

[@jakelane579]

Monroe could work on a team like the nets because they have a lot of shooters so he would be the only one in the paint

[@rohnitnarchal]

This sum Illuminati stuff cause yesterday I went on Greg Monroe’s insta to see where he was playing

[@emmyjohnny970]

Great analysis; and video.

[@Milesgoat]

Yess andy hoops do Zydrunas Ilgauskas please he is my favorite cavs big man of all time

[@davidparedes3377]

I still don't understand this NBA's "new era": Monroe has no fit in this league anymore, but players like D'Andree Jordan, Clint Capella, despite both don't even know how to grab the ball in order to shoot, and Joel "turnover" Embid, are "elite centers". Just because they are "athletics"?! Come'on! These kind of players have the lowest basketball IQ that I ever seem.

[@davidparedes3377]

@T Mitch yeah, but still: at the end of the day, they have no basketball IQ.

[@reeseszn4513]

I remember where Brandon Jennings was ballin out his last years in Detroit. I've always entertain when Drummond and Jennings making pick and roll play.

[@stats2002TheSportsEncyclopedia]

a great big man on the down low is still important

[@raymondkusuma97]

He is back to nba, sign by timberwolves

[@henricjudesuresca8863]

Played at the wrong era A typical.. Right place at the wrong time

[@gvalk4771]

He developed hes game around the 90s center. He did hot had a 3 point shot. He now plays for bayern in germany.

[@LoveSensationnn]

Andy, please do how good was Sarunas Marciulionis, thank you =)

[@xopgoat10]

I thought we were talking about Greg oden

[@sauceemup2080]

I used to think he was an all-star 🤣🤣🤣

[@slattt8454]

Who else remembers the death lineup being godly in 2k14

[@Kornreis]

10:23 Oh hell yeah, in 2k11 Association Mode I have him on the Suns... My lineup the 2nd year after a wild lot of trades (all accepted by the CPU(!)) Starters: PG: Jrue Holiday SG: Alonzo Gee SF: Thaddeus Young PF: Al Jefferson C: Greg Monroe Bench: PG: Jordan Crawford SG: Arron Afflalo SF: Jared Dudley PF: Serge Ibaka C: Hasheem Thabeet Reserves: Marcus Banks, Sonny Weems, Rodney Carney, Joel Anthony

[@narcozz9670]

It’s sad how bigs nowadays can be good at every part of the game but are overshadowed by this era and without a three pointer people have to be ELITE on other things

[@thisisfaka]

Andy how about a reggie jackson's career so far and how he was not respected at all in detroit

[@deds3932]

Always hurt!! Trash anyway!!!

[@mrsky67]

D Eds He’s not trash. But ok.

[@thisisfaka]

He's no trash and i love the pistons but come on man.. had players like dj augustin and will bynum and they never got booed like him

[@deds3932]

Y'all opinion!!! But 👌!! He what we call a 21 king!!!😄

[@allentheskywalker]

Detroit could’ve drafted, Klay Thompson, Kawhi Or Kemba In 2011🤦🏽‍♂️

[@Macabre124]

I know. Its crazy. I guess the league didn't expect the style of ball to turn into more of a 3 point style and small ball nature rather than big men

[@SuperNASCARrocks]

The problem with Monroe was that he was a traditional old school back to the basket, post up, tough physical in the paint center with tremendous rebounding. Unfortunately with the way the game evolved you had to have your center space the floor and be able to shoot. That was not Monroe’s game at all. And when the pistons drafted Drummond in 2012 who was another hard nosed center with tremendous rebounding ability, Monroe was kind of stuck in between a rock and a hard place because the pistons had to play him at PF instead of his traditional position at C. And because of this he suffered greatly.

[@kevinyu8320]

Man he just needed that outside shot and he would've remained useful in Toronto. The Raps could've used his rebounding prowess this year so it's sad to see that he's gone. His speed isn't necessarily the biggest issue as both Ibaka and Gasol are slow-footed. The difference though is that both of them have an outside shot, can defend (Ibaka more than Gasol), and can facilitate (Gasol).

[@ja-zhyounlaing3520]

What’s the beginning instrumental ? Andy good stuff man keep striving

[@laofoto]

The exact opposite is Brook López, he was really similar to Greg, but he changed his game and now he is a cool 3 point shooter. The era of the game is one revelent factor , but the individual improvement is much important. Another example of LaMarcus Aldridge, he waz so good and still playing, even Pau Gasol he changed his game in the latest seasons. Monroe should get into gym more often, with his soft touch, he could still develop a decent shooting ability.

[@vamoneygroup]

Nba is not real basketball

[@narayandejesusreyes5843]

Thanks Andy, I didn't even know he was out of the league. I thought he was still getting dem checks on some teams bench.

[@ZackZ-mg9uq]

When he was on the Pistons I thought he was future All Star caliber, a poor Man's Tim Duncan. Some of the best post moves I've seen ....How did he not work out?

[@Victoriousemsel]

I met him at a concert in munich lol he was so humble

[@guitarherofreek08]

7:57 I am never going to recover financially from this

[@o7_AP]

He’s only out of the league because people think “yOu NeEd tO sHooT To bE GoOD”

[@ShezzasVideos]

Then explain to me why Ben Simmons, Clint Capela and Rudy Gobert are in the league? Yes, Monroe can't shoot, but that isnt the only reason. The reason is also coz he has week defense

[@chrisgibson2106]

I questioned a lot of Joe Dumars decision making as a GM. He made a lot of questionable decisions that have cost the Pistons over time.

[@MyAyeNusHurtz]

Agreed heavy.

[@ocstunna]

if you know andy hoops, you know he likes greg monroe. This video was inevitable

[@movementman9777]

I feel bad that this is the case, but there is no team that needs him.

[@chronoxiong]

He was solid offensively for a Center. But yeah, the game was advancing to smaller quicker guys so he didn't fit in today's game of basketball. Sucks for Monroe. I used to pick him a lot in fantasy during his time with the Pistons.

[@champmagat3298]

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[@socialistbatman1211]

The pistons in 2k14 were nice af

[@prometheuspeanut3935]

I just ran into Greg Monroe at the airport. We talked a whole lot of basketball. He’s very down to earth and a cool guy.

[@nickinvietnam1989]

To Monroe's credit, Jason Kidd was fired due to the very same aggressive defensive scheme. It worked the first season, then every other team adapted to it and from that point on it was just a huge waste of energy. And there comes Bud, who instead of having the big guys hedge out and trap at pick and rolls, he has them drop back at the basket and the Bucks become one of the top defensive teams in the NBA.

[@gloupg8726]

I saw him and derrick williams in germany last season :D Greetings

[@AggravatedMan365]

I totally forgot about the Josh Smith signing. The pistons have to be the worst run franchise in the league behind the Knicks, Kings, and T wolves

[@adventuresofbilljohnson8271]

The Gooch with 3 titles though

[@thechoosenone9213]

Moose is slept on... he could be a 14ppg 9rpg an 2ast guy now a days if he was on da right team

[@farrgone]

Matt Derosa Agreed

[@6ix_dizzy]

I was just thinking the other day we had on the raptors for a bit.

[@AWorldofKayos]

as someone that lives in detroit we had hopes for greg, he had a good game but he was never a #1 guy same issue we had with drummonf if they were the #2 guy it could have worked but nobody want to come to detroit joe D was not good at his job and stan van was even worse,

[@immichaeljordansubtomeoryo2041]

Greg Monroe became an up and coming player but on tv id see him miss wide open free throws