How I ALMOST CRASHED and ended up on PILOT DEBRIEF - Pilot Mistake - G1000 Cessna 172

[@MarcusJFloyd]

C'mon I know I'm not the only pilot making mistakes out here. What are some mistakes y'all have made?

[@hackxy1165]

Got a little close to stalling after take off as i was distracted by a right hand traffic pattern with an aircraft entering downwind and I could not find them in the sky, no stall horn though.

[@Kwame-ln5go]

Not going around. I was going too fast and bounced.

[@guitarmasterf18]

Until I started flying acro in a Pitts, I didnt fully understand the relationship between g loading/AOA and stall speed. There were a few times where I would really roll and crank while turning downwind to base. I was still coordinated, so I would have only had stalled; but none the less, I was unknowingly putting myself in a VERY precarious situation. Thankfully I have lived long enough to learn from my mistakes. Great video by the way sir!

[@Blash1]

@@guitarmasterf18what do you mean by that relationship? Were you doing steep and slow turns?

[@Arman4x1]

I was flying my cub and I Dived beyond my “”Never exceed speed”” and the wing strut snapped off, but luckily I was still able to land it before the whole wing folded up. You Make a mistake: You don’t do it again, You pay WAY more attention.

[@ianperry9571]

I applaud you, brotha. We pilots HAVE to be able to admit our mistakes and learn from them. I'm working on my CFII with 360 hours and I have made more mistakes than I can remember. Putting your mistakes out there definitely humbles you, which just makes you that stronger of a pilot. Keep doin what you do!

[@coreyjordan2745]

Keep posting your flight training. You are a huge encouragement for the private pilot students. We love to see. Thank you brother. Can't wait for more.

[@njbpaul]

Thanks for posting . We all have made this mistake before doing a go around . This maneuver is one that most pilots don't like to do. I did a few go arounds yesterday and felt more comfortable doing them.

[@GrimshawAviation]

Ehh...go arounds are more common than anything else especially at non towered airports. They're good to be very comfortable with because of this very scenario. Always be ready to go around...even on the bright sunny day when you think its safe....never know.

[@coreyjordan2745]

First, thank you, brother. Secondly, congratulations on obtaining your pilot license and continuing your training. And third, you taught me something. Doing all training and in becoming a pilot under no situation never end up on ( pilot debrief ) KZbin videos. That is the best lesson I have ever heard in pursuit of my own in pilot journey. Thank you again, my brother. "A good pilot is always learning."

[@pzsoulman]

It takes a big person and an even bigger pilot to admit to mistakes. Congratulations for being just that, and thank you for sharing and help make us better pilots, too. Subscribed 👍!

[@collinagne2509]

CFI here I think you are being to hard on yourself granted pulling flaps up like that low and slow can create a very sketchy situation you handled it perfectly and I can see you are a safety oriented pilot. Just keep on doing what you are doing and stay humble avoiding the hazardous attitudes and you will have a great career in aviation. Keep up the great work you definitely got a new subscriber!!

[@MarcusJFloyd]

Thanks for the feedback and the sub. Yeah, when training for PPL, my instructor told me "you're going to make mistakes, but you can't dwell on them, especially in the air"

[@GuyFromSC]

Most pilots won’t admit to their own wives that they’ve screwed up, much less post their mistake on KZbin. So big shout out to you for sharing this experience and providing us all with a real world mental rep of what not to do. We’re all here to learn and I’ve still yet to meet a “perfect pilot” no matter how many hours. Kudos for letting go of your pride for the betterment of us all. 🙏🏼 #BlueSkies

[@jamess6656]

Almost ended up on Pilot Debrief: Love the pilot graveyard humor. Also, I just started flying Cessnas after flying Pipers and keeping track of the runway with left traffic is such a pain.

[@azureskys]

Thank you for sharing and the reminder! I made this mistake, too, while refreshing on IFR stuff for an IPC. All my flights for many hours were approaches with going missed or one actual landing on the last segment. After doing that for a few weeks I then practiced a circle to land and for the first time in a very long time did a full go-around from full flaps. I was in habit to fully retract flaps from a 10° configuration for an approach while going full power on the missed, so when commencing the go around on my circle to land configured at full flaps on short final I did the same thing. The instructor caught it and I got a good reminder to brief things you haven't done in a while before actually doing them, even as common as a go around.

[@martygenska8117]

Thanks for sharing; all of us pilots out there constantly learn from our own mistakes as well as others who share. The reference about 'a good pilot is always learning' is from Jason at Mzeroa. BTW, the fellow Russ from Russ Can Fly is Russ Swan, a good friend of mine and fellow BPA member.

[@MarcusJFloyd]

Jason @ Mzeroa is exactly who I was thinking of. Thanks. Yeah I follow Russ and he left a comment on this video and started following me as well. I may join the BPA. The California RedTails is the BPA chapter here. I met a member a couple of months ago.

[@myfirstrodeo208]

For someone who aspires to fly but knows nothing about flying a plane this was helpful. Thanks for sharing your thought process and knowledge of this.

[@RusscanFLY]

I love the video Brother, and count me in as a new subscriber! I also love that you’re going to allow your aviation and KZbin journey to be a transparent one. I completely agree, the more we show what we’ve done wrong, will help other pilots get better. And yet, the last thing I want to end up on is Pilot debrief, or the Bloncalario channels! Anyway, keep doing what you’re doing, and I pray that your Pilot career and KZbin aviation careers, thrive abundantly!

[@frankiemae1302]

You da man, Russ! Glad we getting more nice channels on here!

[@MarcusJFloyd]

Aww man I've gained the Great Russ as a subscriber. I feel like I made it now haha. Big thanks! Your positive attitude is infectious. Thanks for the prayers and I wish you all the well deserved success as well man!

[@jaimeastin]

The one thing I'm working on, I'm still a student pilot.... Is taking it slow and working at checklist. You do not need to forget anything like your landing gear or anything like that. Yesterday when I was flying I did not make sure the door was closed and I was wondering where all this cold air was coming from. I expected it to be cold but not cold air. And the upper latch was locked, but the door was open. So it's just one of those things. Take your time

[@mattcorbett2916]

I just stumbled upon this video. You're attitude is awesome and humble. Thanks for sharing and good luck with your training and future.

[@VancouverIslandExplorer-mv9yl]

Love your video/audio work Marcus. I can say I’ve made countless mistakes, a few could have been fatal; I still make mistakes, just not major ones because I definitely learned from each scare. And yes, I’ve absolutely been scared in a few occasions.

[@djbluemiles3998]

I am new in my journey, 3 months in. First landing was rough.. took it in stride. Have to ensure concentration. I am taking my time with the process. Not rushing anything.the objective is to get better every flight. Thanks for posting.

[@ProPilotPete]

New subscriber, enjoyed it. Got to admit to mistakes to learn from them. Good job!

[@MarcusJFloyd]

Thanks Pete. I just subscribed to your page too. I'm working on becoming a pro pilot like you!

[@MI325A]

Noise abatement....heh. I never could understand that. 😮 If you don't want to hear racing, don't live near a racetrack. If you don't want to hear sounds of aircrafts, DON'T live near an airport. 😊 That's like saying, I want to live on a farm but don't want to smell manure. Geez. 😂😂 *(Granted, if you live somewhere and an airport or racetrack is built afterwards near you, then I understand you were there ... first.) Great video and thank you for sharing your mistakes as well as your successes. Yes, that is how we all learn.

[@KC-pq2dr]

Every flight we take should be a learning experience. No harm in learning from our mistakes to avoid future repeats.

[@Martin-od2hr]

I cant tell if that was full flaps, but it is generally not recommended to use flaps when doing a forward slip as it can cause structural damage!

[@mampasele]

that's why we have checklists 🙂thanks for posting

[@ChrisGtravels666]

I've done the same thing. Sat there in a slight panic, wondering why the plane didn't seem to wanna climb. Luckily there were no obstacles at the end of the runway. My instructor explained it well- flaps have a balloon effect when you extend them, and the opposite effect when you retract them

[@yamilcabrera2111]

At least you’re humble enough to recognize all the mistakes. A lot of pilots get killed because they’re not. good job doing that. We don’t do enough goal rounds so that’s a common mistake. It’s happened to me as well.

[@QuaxC42]

I fly a lot. And had not a single go around in 10 years. But then 2 times even in one day. Each time an unstable approach. I wasn't annoyed with myself but proud that I decided the go around early each time and didn't force the landing.

[@JB_Hobbies]

The nice thing about Cessna flaps is that although you can command them to go up all at once, because they are electric, there is some travel time from full down to full up. You seemed to have good control over the attitude of the plane, as the flaps were retracting, so I would say that the only thing that was in danger there was maybe your sense of pride.

[@tyethescrybe3807]

I like chair flying with checklist in hand is what I do to stay proficient on the basics, bcz I can't afford to fly as much as I would like. And always say my GUMPS out loud.

[@CarlosSarabiaflying]

Hey nice video. You just earned yourself a new subscriber. I’m a student pilot out of Van Nuys

[@MarcusJFloyd]

Thanks! Nice. How far along are you and which school do you fly out of? I flew at Corsair for a little bit.

[@craftykoala]

Great channel, great content. Subbed!

[@MarcusJFloyd]

Thanks! Much appreciated! I'll keep 'em coming

[@thefreedomguyuk]

Wasn't really that bad, thank you for sharing ❤

[@jpilegaaard1278]

Your honesty is refreshing…..thx for sharing

[@frankiemae1302]

Russ can fly is awesome. Thanks for sharing.

[@diegoramirez8674]

It’s really not the worst mistake you could’ve done. If you were on approach speed, 70 for the 172s I’ve flown, you’ll still be fine. You’ll definitely feel as if you start to drop, but you won’t stall at 70 knots unless you pull back on the yoke ridiculously. Once you’re slowing down and are at 55-60 knots, that’s where it gets tricky. Either way, good to see you’re safety oriented. Wish you lots of success

[@Semperf11]

Interesting knowledge ima use MSFSIM 😅

[@MarcusJFloyd]

Thanks for the info/feedback. I was at ~60 knots and did feel the plane sink a bit, but I didn't let the flaps go up all the way before I caught it.

[@joeprokopanko2730]

It's not a mistake if you caught it and went around. Stuff happens and you handled it perfectly.

[@MarcusJFloyd]

Thanks. Definitely no shame in going around over here.

[@dak2005vn]

I think we've all done stuff like this at least once. Good learning experience and you'll never do it again. Regarding the gear on landing,.., nah.... I think you'll run through your GUMPS check each time to prevent that. I appreciate your candor and humility. You ever make it up to any airports in Norcal area? Good luck in your journey!

[@MarcusJFloyd]

Thanks. The furthest up I've been is Stockton/KHWD. Where are you based out of?

[@dak2005vn]

@@MarcusJFloyd Well, I'm old now and live overseas but back when I flew I did my PPL out of KCCR (Concord Buchanan) and instrument out of KSTS (Sonoma county). Saw that you flew up to Modesto? That's about 50 miles south/southeast of Concord. Well, best of luck to you with your training and channel!

[@bushbomb21b9]

I enjoy the debriefing series don’t be one, please turn around if you don’t feel safe, always ask tower for help no matter your experience please, check weight, ⛽️ check fuel, plan your every trip. 😊

[@jamesdixon3298]

Yeah I've done that before it's good you caught it.

[@frankiemae1302]

And good thinking about the parallel runways!

[@yurimig253]

I done that. My instructor slept the crap out of my hand when I reached for the flaps😂. Instructors are awesome if they catch that stuff and make sure The student remembers...

[@KandGadventures]

I actually saw a girl that got herself killed doing that exact thing on a pilot debrief. She had to go around several times in a class B airspace because it was so busy and ended up retracting flaps at a low speed. RIP to that yound lady

[@abdhullahahmadh6078]

Great video. Once I tried to do a touch and go in a Cessna 150 with nose up trim. Luckily my instructor was there to help me lower the nose and adjust the trim. By the way, what's your GoPro settings? Thanks

[@jaimeastin]

I want to go around. My instructor said never do that again. And you just have to treat it like a short field or Southfield take off. Start removing those flaps once you climb up and things like that. So I'm going to go around keep everything exactly the way you came in on until you start to you know get your climbing speed

[@skyp-u3b]

You got a nice landing, want to see you as uniform 👨‍✈️ soon brother

[@MarcusJFloyd]

Thanks man I'm working on it. Are you a pilot too?

[@turbo2ltr]

I did this as well when I first started. Instructor called go around, and I went full power and slapped the flaps to zero. Fortunately the C152 flaps are slow so the instructor immediately put them back down. Never did that again.

[@jzerious4523]

In my private training I asked for a downwind departure from 30R (two runways 30L/R), I was told to make a left downwind departure and I made a right downwind departure; because in my mind it was right pattern for runway 30R. Minor mistake but a good learning point nonetheless.

[@johnfarago3363]

Were you trimming down enough for full flaps? It looks like you were fighting the yoke forward. I'm thinking maybe the subconscious idea of full power and fatigue prempted flaps up now reaction?

[@hackerdaneplanes7]

Underrated

[@jaimeastin]

I start posting my flight stuff online as well. I use an in-flight audio recording cable. I record my audio to a Sony external recording device. That way I can sync up the audio between my two to four cameras I might be using at the time.

[@MarcusJFloyd]

Hey I just sub'd to your channel too. I saw some of those fish frys haha. Reminds me of my grandfather. He would go fishing and hunting and about once a month he'd do a neighborhood cookout. Yeah, I have a recorder, I just forgot to grab it on my way out the door. Mine is much older, but it'll do the job just fine. I wanted to get started with KZbin without spending a ton of money so a lot of the stuff I use to make videos is stuff I already had.

[@Pa27pilot]

Without pointing it out yourself this camera angle doesn’t show the flap lever so there’s no way for us to catch it. Learning from your mistakes is how you get better. Stay safe and good luck on your journey.

[@bigyaksd]

Everyone’s made that mistake. Especially common when you’ve been doing a lot of touch & go’s. The muscle memory gets built up

[@greenminer255]

you wanna stream yourself and post it online then get ready to get hated on by everyone. that is the world we live in today. YOUR CHOICE Fly like we used to back in the day , just enjoy it

[@crooked-halo]

No, I can't see you operating the flaps, so I didn't catch it. A modern 172 has electric flaps so you could stop the retraction if you catch your error quick enough. Also, since they retract slowly, you might be at a safe climb speed by the time the flaps are up. The 172 POH has Cessna's go-around procedure, which includes flap position per airspeed on climb out.

[@thomasmixson7064]

Commercial Training? I was confronted with six full volumes covering flight from aviation meteorology to tie down. A minimum of at least 80% correct on all those phases were required to continue training, and on completion, we were expected to know and understand all materials presented. Staring at that pile of loose leaf binders stuffed full, I began. I KNEW WHAT FACED ME WHEN, "....in the course of study concerning aviation weather we will begin on the molecular level...." Oy Vey!

[@johnamin7858]

Did that before. Only took one time to (hopefully) never do it again. 🙏👍👍👍

[@FrapachinoPlz]

I got locs as well, you’re going to keep it when you get hired ?

[@MarcusJFloyd]

Yeah I'm gonna keep 'em. I don't plan on going to the airlines. I plan to do contract pilot work or corporate. I don't value any job enough to cut my hair for it lol.

[@flightsimplays]

Hey there! Im looking to start IFR training at Vista. Hows your experience with them? Instructors/aircraft availability, management, etc.? Which instuctor would you recommend? Thanks.

[@MarcusJFloyd]

I can't speak much for in depth training at Vista. I did my PPL and instrument rating at GCC (Glendale Community College). At Vista, I've only done flight reviews and an IPC and my experience has been really good. I've flown with Frank Bagheri for my IPC and complex endorsement and I can highly recommend him. I also hear Robert Illian is a really good instructor and has a really good relationship with Mark Boss when you're ready for your checkride. I haven't flown with him yet because he's usually booked up way in advance. Management is really good. They have mechanics on staff so when planes go down for maintenance, they're usually back on the line within a very reasonable amount of time. If you have an open schedule, then you shouldn't have a problem with availability although you may have to book a week or 2 in advance. Hope this helps. Let me know if you have anymore questions.

[@flightsimplays]

@MarcusJFloyd thank you!

[@MarcusJFloyd]

No prob

[@ЮрійГордієнко-х2з]

Actually, not too critical mistake in C172 - flaps are retracted not so fast, but in anyway... I, personally, prefer to visually check the flaps are off (for touch-and-go) - one time they failed and I have had a chance to land immediately before starting climbing in our rocky-airport.

[@alk672]

Nah you're fine. As long as you push while adding power you won't lose that much altitude even with this mistake.

[@Biohazard_Toxic]

subbed!

[@TheBeedeegee]

I've left them in and been sitting there like "why the hell can't I get it to Vy?"

[@jeffgermanich8105]

I’m not a pilot but aren’t you supposed to bring the flaps back to neutral and apply power?

[@MarcusJFloyd]

When doing a go around from an unsafe landing, you apply full power first and you are supposed to retract the flaps slowly as your plane builds up speed, not all at the same time like the mistake I made.

[@jeffgermanich8105]

I wanted to try and get my private pilot certificate but realized I was too afraid when I did try my fist lesson, then I quit. Too old now.

[@JosiahZedok]

Im a student pilot but i knew it rught when i saw the drop i made the same mistake on the way back frkm an xc instructor had me do a mimic emergency i was halfway down the runway i over shot in an amergency i couldve made it but we went around i waited until i was at a climb of 75 to take them out but i still took the first notch out and my instructor got on me right then lol.

[@RealWorldAviationandGaming9392]

I wonder why pilots go thru a take-off and landing checklist

[@rockybolin3093]

I know you didn't ask for our opinion, but if we are only going to have one camera, I would rather it be on the instruments and what is out front than centered on you.

[@sG-fn9mv]

We all make those mistakes.

[@ahmadsamadzai8255]

you wouldn't want to make that mistake in a cirrus.

[@shadowdriva1]

That background music is very distracting, I never have understood that. It takes away from the message, that’s just my humble opinion. Great content though.

[@jwald6795]

Pilot Debrief,, "The Mistake that Really got Marcus killed" Let's hope it never happens , right.

[@MarcusJFloyd]

Alright so I'm going to need you to delete this comment lol. Definitely don't want to see that.

[@scottstp7084]

Almost crashed??

[@NytiaHenry]

lol at almost ended up on pilot debrief

[@ArkansasBassMan]

I was like this guy contorts his mouth alot and then you said it in your video. Hey im sure i do some stuff too.

[@MarcusJFloyd]

Haha. Yeah this was my first time watching myself fly and was like "what the"

[@jaimeastin]

No one wants to end up on pilot debrief or the Dan Blanca... Show

[@MarcusJFloyd]

Yeah not at all, that's bad for business

[@dang6369]

Sorry, what is TAA?

[@MarcusJFloyd]

TAA stands for Technically Advanced Aircraft. For your commercial pilot license you need 10 hours of TAA and/or complex aircraft time. A TAA aircraft has 3 things - a PFD - Primary Flight Display; an MFD - Multifunction Display; and an autopilot. I was flying a G1000 172 with an autopilot so that's considered a TAA.

[@rocksteady8232]

have a check list on paper bro , avoid high banks, modern pilots count on engine too much they LOVE 45% angle turns for some reason , cant climb with nose up only with speed , all the basics or Pilot Debrief , stay safe bro

[@MarcusJFloyd]

Thanks man. That's the other thing, I had a laminated checklist right in my lap. And yeah I'm with you on te bank angle when turning. I have my instrument rating so I'm perfectly ok with standard rate turns.