how i create a score reduction (boring)

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[@zoltan902]

Brad, please stop deprecating yourself. Completely contrary to your claims, what you are doing here is utterly fascinating, and indeed the way you explain yourself is charming in its lack of pretension. I own a very large collection of the JW Signature Editions, and with a few of them have managed to feed them, note-for-note, in to Sibelius, so I do know the painstaking nature of your work here - all for the noble cause of educating your viewers on the orchestrations of such iconic music. All I can add, which others have done here, is to express my wholehearted gratitude for the work you do, and indeed the highly elegant delivery of it, and we certainly hope you never get bored of doing it, because as your viewers, we will NEVER get bored of watching it. With love!

[@szymonkusior9719]

Clickbait this film is not boring. ;)

[@bradfrey]

Recorded this video once, then accidentally deleted half of the footage, then recorded it again, then realized I messed up the color balance, then said who the heck cares this is a boring video anyway… next one will maybe hopefully be a little more interesting

[@tomwheeler1082]

No it's actually very cool and interesting!

[@YonsungLee]

How do you source the original scores? Obviously a lot of John Williams's scores are available for purchase, but I'm assuming most orchestrations don't get published...

[@MrRbjunior83]

Your work is precious for professional composer like me, we are studying all of our lives

[@Butlinsgvn6]

Nothing boring about this at all - this is fascinating. Exactly the kind of explanation I was looking for. Subscribed to you. Thanks Brad.

[@albusdumbledore1218]

Love the Zimmer reference in the description... "i liKe wRiTiNg iN Dddddd"

[@valkyriesound3888]

This is great - it's good to see how you put these together! I've been watching your videos for a while and this just gives me a greater appreciation for what you're doing. Thanks!

[@vladvkonte]

Hi! I'm from Russia and I don't speak English well, but I'm always inspired by your videos. I'm probably the only one you have a "views from Russia" because of. I really like your presentation. And comments. I first listen to music and look at the notes, and then I translate what you sign and start reading, watching the notes and listening. Thank you! How do you feel about Classical music? Do you play a musical instrument other than the piano? I love Bartók. Do you have your own musical works? I really like to follow the refrain. With the repetitions of themes, their development and return to them. John Williams, John Powell and Howard Shore are Brilliant composers for me

[@scottaciousmusic2159]

This is amazing. I love composing music. I agree with what you said in that being able to transpose parts in your head is very important. Great job and keep up the good work!

[@dissonanceparadiddle]

Sideways sent me here and I gotta say really impressive stuff.

[@oskarhrankowski]

Great! I've also made some score analysis videos of John Williams' music and I'm going to do more. Your videos are very helpful. Thank you!

[@JohnMassari]

🎼 Reductions are so crucial! I spent a few summers doing score reductions of Dmitri Shostakovich Sym #13 and various movements from Sym #6 and # 9 along with Bartok's 2nd Piano concerto etc, etc, etc! So much was gained. Also, doing your own Schenkerianesque reductions are great for the study of form. Keep up the excellent work, Brad! We are not worthy!!! 🎹

[@martingravel1157]

Brad, this is soooo interesting! Thank you so much! Not boring at all!

[@Cloudgirl778]

:D i love how you always say this is so boring. - you’re so down to earth. Give yourself some props ;)!!

[@brandonskelton]

This was not boring it was fascinating and educational!

[@MiyazakiKnight]

I love your work dude. Keep it up

[@artofcomposing]

Love your reductions. I think a great term for "things" at 4:34, is "auditory streams". It's what your brain separates out as individual voices. Check out the wikipedia on auditory scene analysis or David Huron's book, Voice Leading.

[@davidnevillemusic]

Hey Brad! Thanks for the amazing video and content! My brother and I are going to be doing some full score reductions soon as well! I believe we are going to start with some Terminal cues! Hope life is well!

[@composercode]

HECK YES BRO this is what I've been waiting for

[@trinityng1135]

im writing a thesis that is heavily reliant on analysing film scores and this video was a godsend, thank you very much

[@thepianonanny]

Thank you for doing this! This is very helpful . . .

[@tomcalderaro7164]

The honest 'dues-paying' work can, at times, seem to be boring BUT... it's the surest way forward. Good work! This work used to be done with pencil and paper that was a job!

[@oscarmike1131]

Nah man this was far from boring. All it did was make us realize how much time and effort you put into this. Thank you very much

[@hannahsung9787]

I enjoyed every second of it. I’ve always been wanting to learn how to do that. Thank you for sharing your strategy. Can you share more of these? :-)

[@braedenrawa]

Amazing stuff man!

[@ErnestoComposer]

Super cool man, thanks!

[@krane.kk8827]

I'll support you , keep it up

[@georgeioan9223]

Great video, not one bit boring! Really valuable stuff

[@mastermike4716]

Not boring AT ALL! bro. I am fascinated by your godlike abilities...lol. Keep up the good work.

[@youtub4925]

This is actually helpful for thinking about how to make better sketches.

[@Muzicluvah2]

Absolutely on point...another score for the wizard

[@JohnMassari]

Excellent.

[@FilmScoreandMore]

20:35, great idea but... where does one typically get the score? Did I miss that earlier?

[@mydogskips2]

Sheet Music Plus has a lot of scores, including many of those by John Williams.

[@jean-lucdegbo2496]

This more interesting than what you think. Sometimes when you are used to something to usual (to your taste) you start to think everybody knows about that... But sure i have learned something today. Thank you for this opportunity. AND KEEP UP! :D

[@FilmScoreandMore]

Later in the video you started talking about how much more difficult it is to read full score sheets; I found the full score for John Williams' "Escapades" suite around when I found your channel and yes it can be a bit overwhelming. I really need to find it again to finish my work but it was mysteriously removed from Scribd.

[@MAR-mo2qv]

Gracias!

[@27jyp]

Yo do video game score reduction this is very important man. Keep up the good work.

[@nmkmusic6396]

To FilmScoreAnalysis: Hey man. Your videos are great! I also have a KZbin channel (NMK Music) with orchestral score reductions. I'm lucky to get 1 page done in a day sometimes. I have a question: How do you get in touch with the copyright holders of the recordings to request permission to use their music? Have a good one!

[@dobromirkisyov3171]

Really awesome job, man! People can learn a lot from your channel, keep doing this great thing! Greetings (:

[@noc1211]

Watching the video now, but first I have to ask: Where do you get the sheet music from which you create your reductions? I’d love to find/buy more sheet music of OSTs I like but I have no clue where to find them.

[@dormouse97]

I'd also be interested to know where these scores come from

[@krane.kk8827]

Me too lol

[@lolzkittenz]

Hal Leonard sells a lot of John Williams's scores, just look for the "deluxe orchestral" editions 😀

[@oskarhrankowski]

Scores of suites by John Williams are published by Hal Leonard in John Williams Signature edition and you csn buy it for example here: www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4490056 Cues from movies are available in some libraries at music universities or in private collections, but a lot of scans are available on the internet. Look at pages like swappano.com Ps. I've some cues and if you private message me, I can share something to you 😉

[@sebastianminnes2575]

He trades scores with people on Swappano and other trading sites, as do I. I have quite many of these original scores, and I can tell you that’s definitely the best way to get your hands on these scores. If you don’t have anything to trade, there’s always people who will be more than happy to start you off - just look in their bio!

[@DavidSeekolaMusic]

Great video. Dorico has made this 1000x easier with their Condensing feature

Please come back 🥺🥺🥺

[@jsnell126]

I thought this was super interesting, for the record. Makes me realize I really need to practice transposing, and also speed up my sibelius note entry skills.

[@ChoiKwangShin]

Thanks for the awesome videos. You're so funny. :)

[@garyb8373]

@filmscoreanalysis Where do you get your scores?

[@josephf2960]

please do Duel of the Fates from star wars. Also I love your work. Thank you

[@iamarthorse]

Let your viewers decide what is interesting or boring and we can vote with our eyes. I think its fascinating to see score manipulation. I have no idea (even after watching this) how to adequately reduce or expand a score. I would ingest more videos like this. What you call boring is akin to magic for many of us.

[@Gonzeloth]

Great!!!

[@sreepurammike]

Hi Brad! Thanks for the lesson, how much time did you take to write the whole score reduction.

[@abadmusician2176]

Where do you find the original scores?

[@sebastianminnes2575]

A Bad Musician He trades scores with people on Swappano and other trading sites, as do I. I have quite many of these original scores, and I can tell you that’s definitely the best way to get your hands on these scores. If you don’t have anything to trade, there’s always people who will be more than happy to start you off - just look in their bio!

[@jb1980ist]

Sebastian Minnes Ah, i didn’t realize another site had replaced Pianofiles!

[@Theomite]

DAMMIT! I have nothing to trade so therefore no way to procure them! Let alone have them bound in hardcover!

[@jb1980ist]

Theomite I didn’t at first either. You start small and then, work your way up. Just gotta find friendly people to help you get started.

[@FilmScoreandMore]

@@Theomite Hey, I just signed up for Swappano and I was just about to get started there, see how it all works. You mentioned you don't have any scores yet and I have exactly one on a Google Drive if you want it. No trade required. It's the score for the first HTTYD and it's incredibly detailed.

[@FocusMrbjarke]

When i saw in the title it was boring i just had to click it

[@mauiztic]

Despite the modern belief, learning is different than entertainment. Thanks for your work.

[@CharlieDraper]

Hero.

[@nadavsaltzman2624]

Hi, can you tell how do you source the original scores???

[@Pasewicz1]

I love you Brad:))))

[@GrumpyOldMan9]

Never combine your working place with your sleeping place.

[@larshanhart7138]

Where do you get the full scores to reduce?

[@kevinarthurjr4006]

Hey, could you share what notation font you used for this reduction?

[@inkysaur]

What instrument do you play?

[@benoahstudios6355]

Brad, where do you find the scores?

[@Kanoppo]

What you call "things" i call "thematic material" (in spanish Material Temático), because it's material that belongs to each theme of the piece. I don't know if it can apply in English too. Thanks for the video.

[@conforzo]

Does Film Score Analysis only do reductions of existing scores or does he also transcribe orchestral pieces by ear?

[@lolzkittenz]

It should be illegal to be that smart AND that good looking 😭😂😍

[@ChizFreak]

What app is he using on the iPad?

[@composernahum698]

What version of iPad is it?

[@GuyVignati]

Could you make a score Reduction for 'The Mummy' - jerry Goldsmith? It would be very interesting to analyze :) One more question: where do you find film score sheets for all orchestra?

[@typo1345]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKDddKOXZpaDaKM

[@GuyVignati]

Thank you! I didn’t find it since now

[@sebastianminnes2575]

Guido Vignati He trades scores with people on Swappano and other trading sites, as do I. I have quite many of these original scores, and I can tell you that’s definitely the best way to get your hands on these scores. If you don’t have anything to trade, there’s always people who will be more than happy to start you off - just look in their bio!

[@typo1345]

@@sebastianminnes2575 Sebastian Minnes I have one original score and am interested in trying to find one of these: Ramifications--Michael Giacchino Getting Past Security--Alan Silvestri Walk and Stalk--Michael Giacchino Concerning Aunt Josephine--Thomas Newman Case of the Manchas--Michael Giacchino Gate to the Underworld--Alan Silvestri Ants! --John Williams (I have a small portion of it but not much) And 52 Chachki Pickup -- Michael Giacchino The scores I have to trade are: The Call of the Crystal (Williams) Irina's Theme (Williams) Journey to the Island (Williams) The Adventures of Mutt (Williams) Ramifications (cello part) (Giacchino) The Journey to Akator (Williams) Yeah. A lot of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull stuff. Any suggestions?

[@sebastianminnes2575]

Ravenclaw 14 Check on Swappano if anyone’s offering it, otherwise it may not be available...unfortunately not all film scores make it to Swappano, since the whole premise relies on scores being leaked - for example trying to find Pirates of the Caribbean scores is a lost cause, same for some specific films (for no apparent reason). Basically if it isn’t on Swappano, there’s a good chance it never left the studio’s hands.

[@HenryThuss]

Where do you get the scores from?

[@sebastianminnes2575]

BattleS500 He trades scores with people on Swappano and other trading sites, as do I. I have quite many of these original scores, and I can tell you that’s definitely the best way to get your hands on these scores. If you don’t have anything to trade, there’s always people who will be more than happy to start you off - just look in their bio!

[@HenryThuss]

Sebastian Minnes thanks so much!

[@itznoxy7193]

>how i create a score reduction (boring) "I'll watch this one first"

[@Metalpazallteway]

I didn't know you were transcribing from another score.. All this time I thought you wrote everything by ear lol I'm a bit slow with the topic

[@jerrygates6811]

Score reductions are SO important to your learning. If you think doing a score reduction is boring, then you are not learning from the process and not observing what you are seeing and hearing from a particular composer. If you are going to put down the process with negativity, why do it at all?

[@tommasoannoni4836]

How do you put the actual score into a video editing software? Pdfs? Png? I can't find a software that actually can use those kind of formats!

[@samuelconnolly347]

You can export videos from Sibelius. I just have the cheap version (Sibelius First), but you can easily export video from there in MP4 format. If you can't import a PDF, why not just try taking screenshots of the score and converting it into a file format it'll accept? Free converters are available.

[@tommasoannoni4836]

@@samuelconnolly347 Thank you for the suggestion. That's what I am doing now, from noted pdf to jpeg to video. Sibelius video export would not work, because I cannot make the same analysis, with color-highlighted sections and all the arrows and notes. Look like I found my method tho. Hopefully, I will upload much more soon! Here is the last one I made, if you're interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4O8aHiwqMiEqLM Thank you.

[@samuelconnolly347]

@@tommasoannoni4836 I liked your video! I can see why the video export wouldn't work for your style. Your annotations are interesting (and what a great piece of music - I've never played the game). I just tried to watch your analysis of Princess Mononoke, but it's been blocked, sadly. I've never done anything like this before, but I'd like to. I feel like my knowledge of music theory is reasonable, but recognising all these things in an actual orchestral setting? Not sure. It'd be a good exercise though.

[@tommasoannoni4836]

@@samuelconnolly347 It's a good exercise for sure. Worth the time? It really depends, but if you enjoy the process, then why not. What I did for now eas by ear, and it takes a lot to identify all the doublings etc. I may experiment with scores in the future, like this guy does, which is sooo much of a time saver. But yeah, go for your passions! Maybe you can do something similar for electronic music, if that's your passion! PS: Yes, my second Mononoke video (the one with the little movie in it) has been hidden, I may reupload it in some other way to make sure it stays up.

[@gabriel_kyne]

WHERE do you find the original scores?? The original movie scores are so difficult to find, even for money!

[@gregorymoore6794]

"I'm Brad Frey and this is my masterclass... i liKe wRiTiNg iN Dddddd". A bit "dodgy" if you ask me!....No, seriously. I really appreciated your doing this and really enjoyed it!

[@Nenn-qs2yw]

NOT boring!

[@TheLibrarianUU]

Ook! [Not boring. Can you reduce from ear? I have a melody, but have no score.]

[@Lucky_AL]

Why are you so awfully hard on yorself? We are more than greatful to see you work step by step, with in depth commentary. Film music analysis is hard to get by, and frankly, we‘re not looking for an easy-digest 2min video about how to reduce JW scores! Keep it up exactly as „boring“! ❤️

[@ignaciojimenez1898]

Analiza la música de dragón ball z

[@garyb8373]

I would suggest reediting this to remove the piece where you say this is boring. It'll turn people off, and the process itself, while somewhat simple and straightforward, is still interesting and people will learn something from it. Don't undersell it just because you think it's boring.

[@jeremybuenaventura808]

Explain score “reduction”

[@nou6990]

Jeremy Buenaventura the score is “reduced” to a minimal state, hence “reduction”

[@Theomite]

"Boring." #SezYou

[@EddieCarreteroSaborit]

BUT WHERE DO YOU GET THE SCORES FROM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@IntoTheBass]

IMHO: Boredom Not Included, Excellence Not Excluded. - Education at the Speed of "What?" is Useless. This Video is Educational. Take It Slow. And, "Thank You!" for creating and sharing these videos.

[@XWayOfficialChannel]

I'm not worthy, man lol

[@jeremybuenaventura808]

Music theory is never boring (do you know da wae?)

[@FilmScoreandMore]

Thanks for the peek behind the curtain! I just finished my "This is Berk" cover/music video (in Notion 6). Thanks for the snippet you posted and I really hope to see your full transcription one day! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIjWpaykfpyrgc0

[@wolfie8748]

Do you always transpose it to C major - A minor ? Why dont you just put it as it is?

[@MonoIce350s]

“Trying to have this not take forever” >Manually clicks everything in the keypad instead of using right number pad ????????

[@user-ht7mb5cl3j]

boring but funny.

[@yoverale]

It's soooo boring lol

[@nlshd4006]

Disliked for self harm

[@FilmScoreandMore]

20:35, great idea but... where does one typically get the score? Did I miss that earlier?

[@sebastianminnes2575]

Score Piano Covers He trades scores with people on Swappano and other trading sites, as do I. I have quite many of these original scores, and I can tell you that’s definitely the best way to get your hands on these scores. If you don’t have anything to trade, there’s always people who will be more than happy to start you off - just look in their bio!

[@FilmScoreandMore]

@@sebastianminnes2575 , thanks a lot for the tip! I'll definitely have to check that out soon!