How I do EICR Testing | Thomas Nagy

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Thomas Nagy

Thomas Nagy

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@paullyons4624
@paullyons4624 4 жыл бұрын
C1 for that door
@daanwilmer
@daanwilmer 4 жыл бұрын
Given your pricing, this is how I imagine the checklist for a £100 (inc. V.A.T.) EICR would look like: [ ] Radio works when plugged into socket [ ] Wires are connected inside the distribution board [ ] House is not currently on fire due to a short circuit (pass if on fire due to non-electrical causes)
@Fishbait075
@Fishbait075 4 жыл бұрын
You'd even get out of the Car/Van? [ ] Property is located where address states. [ ] Property is a building. [ ] Property is not currently on fire.
@efixx
@efixx 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@paulsims8461
@paulsims8461 4 жыл бұрын
No
@videomaster8580
@videomaster8580 4 жыл бұрын
5:31 "If Mrs Jones falls down the stairs and snaps her neck, thats a C2" Strangely enough C2 is one of the Vertebrae in the neck! poor old Mrs Jones.
@markrainford1219
@markrainford1219 4 жыл бұрын
I'll give you a thumbs up for that.
@weptbody7613
@weptbody7613 3 жыл бұрын
Laughed out loud to that mate. 😂
@stefanmeier6763
@stefanmeier6763 4 жыл бұрын
Pricing (Nuremberg, Germany): I only do such inspections on an hourly basis. So i would estimate around 6 Hours for that kind of building, 85€/hour + 27.50€ (Tester) + 22€ (Car - if within the town) So: 510,00€(Labour) + 27,50 (Equipment) + 22,00€ (Car) =559,50€ + 16% VAT (89,52€) = 659,02€ I know, there are guys that do it for less than 200€, but if you pay peanuts, you'll get monkeys...
@shaunsparky5354
@shaunsparky5354 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps yours is a more suitable way of pricing....Unfortunately, being competitive (Commercially Viable) is a whole other argument! Actually, I like your model!!
@RubenKelevra
@RubenKelevra 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds pretty reasonable if you ask me, greetings from NRW :)
@kittsdiy
@kittsdiy 4 жыл бұрын
Ok i move to Germany ..if i ask that rate in Belgium .. i don't have any custumers anymore .. the rate you ask is for a mid level IT guy in Belgium ..
@Jack-hu7cb
@Jack-hu7cb 4 жыл бұрын
I think people think the expensive contractors are ripping them off. It’s hard to find a balance between paying the least you can but still getting a good job done.
@Marco-mg9tv
@Marco-mg9tv 4 жыл бұрын
Yah right so you basically charge 1000 uros a day fair play mate. Bullshit right there
@matt92h
@matt92h 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if those closet lights turn off when you shut the door.
@stevehenke678
@stevehenke678 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say the rcd is C3. Yeah you could argue there's a safety concern, but it's not an electrical issue. Old Fanny falling down the stairs cause the lights went off sucks, but she wasn't electrocuted.
@Graeme566
@Graeme566 4 жыл бұрын
Tom: how I do EICR testing Door: Lol, hello
@Dornacgove
@Dornacgove 4 жыл бұрын
Who's saying I watched the door fall several times in slow mo and laughed like a crazy person? Because I definitely didn't!
@EruElectrics
@EruElectrics 4 жыл бұрын
A minimum of £200+VAT for an EICR in London I think is a bit cheap. To be honest I'd expect someone like you to have much better prices. Maybe that's why you end up working 12 hours, 6 days/week. I charge a minimum of £215+VAT at North Kent, losing more that I win but I didn't start my own business to work around the clock for stupid prices.
@kevinwhite2380
@kevinwhite2380 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. I'm in Hertfordshire & may quote up to £300+ for some installation!! Depends on age, complexity, access, upgrades, etc...
@114hours
@114hours 3 жыл бұрын
My stomachs in agony and I’m fucking crying with laughter at that end bit. The whole timing of that clusterfuck is amazing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ryanhamdy9244
@ryanhamdy9244 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, love watching your videos especially this one, my pricing is pretty much the same as yours mate, I charge £18.50 per circuit and £60.00 for the report. I was debating with myself as to whether I should lower my rates due to all other companies coming in at £100 or less but I’m glad you have spoken about this and I have decided fuck it! if anything my rates should be going up. Any how keep up the good work mate and you never know our paths may cross as you work in the same areas as me. 👍
@paulmerchant9015
@paulmerchant9015 4 жыл бұрын
If front end RCD trips with correct times then C3 and if not then a C2.
@RubenKelevra
@RubenKelevra 4 жыл бұрын
No it's not. It shuts off the lights in the staircase, that's an issue when there's a fire. You have either battery backup on the lights per floor or you have to isolate the lights from the rest of the fuseboard.
@anoniemous2136
@anoniemous2136 4 жыл бұрын
I would agree with Paul, I don't think that the argument about it shutting off the lights is enough because from my experience the power goes out more than an rcd trips and even if it trips then it's only possible that there will be no light (I'm assuming that there are windows in the house). Also on top of that the likelihood of someone tripping down the stairs in their own home even when it's dark is low. Now because we are talking about things with really low chance of happening are we going to consider other rare occurrences like the rcd failing closed. About the fire comment Ruben, I'm not sure what its like where you are but here the fire brigade shuts the power off from the street and what's to say that the fire won't damage the lighting circuits first? I think because of how unlikely it is that the rcd will trip this situation will generally be a C3, however one should take into consideration other factors like the age/health of the residents and the condition of the rest of the house and if there is an elevated risk of the rcd tripping and causing injuries in that specific building then classify it as a C2.
@tobysherring1369
@tobysherring1369 4 жыл бұрын
You could argue about lights on stairs as a danger for thousands of older properties. But even with split RCD board, the light on the stairs could go off (blown lamp, circuit fault, nuisance trip, another circuit on same RCD is faulty). Even an RCBO could trip and leave you in the dark. The safety clause is about electrical wiring, not any possible imaginable scenario. A tenant could take off a faceplate and stick their hand in, but we're not going to code every faceplate as a C2.
@tonywainwright30
@tonywainwright30 4 жыл бұрын
@@tobysherring1369 Exactly!
@jimmylovescake6813
@jimmylovescake6813 3 жыл бұрын
@@RubenKelevra how many domestic properties have battery backups in lights, beyond communal?
@soundmangaz6833
@soundmangaz6833 4 жыл бұрын
Little switch on the door frame that turns the lights on whenever the door is opened?
@Redcricket65
@Redcricket65 4 жыл бұрын
8 hours ealier... That hatch knocked the r out of the word too 🤣🤣❤️
@dast_uk
@dast_uk 4 жыл бұрын
First thing i spotted haha
@THEELECTRICSIDEOFTHINGS
@THEELECTRICSIDEOFTHINGS 4 жыл бұрын
I find it fascinating the electrical difference between country have a great day and be safe 😊🇨🇦
@markrainford1219
@markrainford1219 4 жыл бұрын
Its "potential difference"
@callamtaylor387
@callamtaylor387 4 жыл бұрын
Never a C2 just because of stairs, I thought we code things for electrical safety I.E potential of causing death or harm through electric shock? C2 potentially dangerous under fault conditions.
@nathansheargold5413
@nathansheargold5413 4 жыл бұрын
Old firm i worked for would always c2 any non metal fuseboard under a stair case, even if it was dual rcd and they both worked fine. They said needs to be fire rated for staircase due to it being a fire escape, sometimes I was changing fuseboards that were less than a year old
@stuarnold7338
@stuarnold7338 4 жыл бұрын
If you used a C2 because of only one RCD on a multilevel property you'd have to C2 on a split board in a property with only one lighting circuit.
@zjzozn
@zjzozn 4 жыл бұрын
Open your mind and eyes 😳
@fumthings
@fumthings 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathansheargold5413 genuine question, did they not have fire retardant plastics then?
@TheChipmunk2008
@TheChipmunk2008 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathansheargold5413 That's why I'm self employed... crap like that makes me mad. I WILL argue the toss with a boss that he or she is WRONG
@Mark1024MAK
@Mark1024MAK 3 жыл бұрын
On the lighting question, how does a BC or ES lamp holder ever pass this kind of inspection? No tools required to expose live conductors… Lamp easily removable by the user…
@doctorelectric470
@doctorelectric470 4 жыл бұрын
For a regular domestic property I charge £300, I win about half of them but it will take me a full day to test a property fully
@andytap560
@andytap560 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree i always book a half day minimum or full day
@tresslerj1985
@tresslerj1985 4 жыл бұрын
6:48 C3, 7:20 C3, 8:00 C3, 9:20 I would C2 but its not readily accessible you needed a ladder and you had to remove the lamp, 12:14 C3 with FI as it's not good with the C1/2 any way,
@megazeus7972
@megazeus7972 4 жыл бұрын
There is no C3 with FI, it's one of the other
@Rose.Of.Hizaki
@Rose.Of.Hizaki 4 жыл бұрын
Tom: "Good Afternoon..." Door: *_"let me introduce myself"_*
@nigel1964
@nigel1964 4 жыл бұрын
And the lemon was holding the string attached to the wood which he pulled on and OUCH!!
@TheChipmunk2008
@TheChipmunk2008 4 жыл бұрын
The codebreakers book is wrong on a few things Example, Front end RCD is fine, regardless of safety ... if 'potential to cause danger' is a C2, every house in the UK would get a C2. Lampholders can give one a belt... We tend to do lots of C3's and only C2 or C1 things that are likely to be causing problems ELECTRICALLY. Someone falling down the stairs isn't an electrical issue and has no place in an EICR Linked main switch is a C3 fo sho. Not sure the downlight would be a C1 for me... I'd call it a C2. I'd say inner core is 'the copper' not the insulation. And the coding of non fire rated downlights with a room above is one example of where the book is heinously WRONG. Not required unless it's a separate fire compartment, so no code at all. And all my disagreements above notwithstanding, we've been called to look at EICR 'unsatisfactory' results by landlords... and have ALWAYS agreed with the original inspector. We've downgraded a couple of C1's to C2's, but that's still the same ultimate result
@asherrose4114
@asherrose4114 4 жыл бұрын
Is it still worth buying tho?
@callummcivor1094
@callummcivor1094 4 жыл бұрын
Hope you are okay after that
@richardemery9911
@richardemery9911 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see your charging sensible rates for a comprehensive test and inspect.. those companies out there charging £85 - £100 plus the vat for testing upto 10 circuits are seriously undermining the Quality Sparkies out there.. I recently re tested a 2 bed flat which had an EICR done. Satisfactory report issued . I found 3 C1s without even trying and 5 C2s. The worst being 2 junction boxes in the loft space with no lids on. A 32 amp cooker circuit still in use but spliced into with a connector block to also run a 7.5 KW shower no RCD insight. After giving the landlord the bad news. He said that the so called test engineer was only there for 45 mins and didn’t even look in the loft space. Luckily he hadn’t paid the bill for that test.
@paulwilson3759
@paulwilson3759 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Tom, just stumbled across you (big Clive recommendation), love your thoughts on EICR pricing, I shall be adopting it too (Hampshire based so might have to shave 10% off). I"ve re-watched from 18.01about 20 times........ and for that alone I'm subscribing. Keep it up!
@tresslerj1985
@tresslerj1985 4 жыл бұрын
I got code breakers, good read. Its not a Bible just a reference.
@stuarnold7338
@stuarnold7338 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Good book to have.
@persona250
@persona250 4 жыл бұрын
its someones opinion .
@leecartlidge4124
@leecartlidge4124 4 жыл бұрын
I have looked through the code breakers it's good for a reference, but some of there coding is definitely different to what the niceic say. Code breakers classes cable less than 50mm without rcd as a c2 meaning most installations Would fail Niceic recommends same fault as a c3
@solarrover9575
@solarrover9575 4 жыл бұрын
I agree cables in walls should definitely be a C3 if no RCD. Napit should revise their coding of C2.
@asherrose4114
@asherrose4114 4 жыл бұрын
Any other book similar to the code breakers that you recommend?
@shaunsparky5354
@shaunsparky5354 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Tom, great to see how you approach an EICR. Just a point on the 'Linked Main Switch', are we not talking about switching of both L and N and not a 'Single Point' of Isolation? Totally different issue! Loving your honesty online. Hope you don't take offence to my comment . PEACE Bro ✌.
@rogerbean393
@rogerbean393 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah clarify please. I assume the old Wylex had double pole main switch but the board below only had a RCD to cover the 2 circuits,so no main switch to isolate both live conductors.
@tomorichard
@tomorichard 4 жыл бұрын
Roger Bean the rcd in the bottom board would most certainly also be double pole.
@jamiecullen9075
@jamiecullen9075 4 жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time Tom says “you could argue” Well I’m plastered 🥴
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 4 жыл бұрын
watch 3+ videos in a row, now what? ;)
@michaelsands6738
@michaelsands6738 3 жыл бұрын
The bump on the head 😂😂😂 I missed that the first time I watched and you cursing £100 EICR 😂😂😂
@PJB71
@PJB71 4 жыл бұрын
C3 upfront rcd, C2 downlighters connections as they are not accessible, installed within the ceiling, C3 for non fire rated downlighters. Unless it was actually a fire rated ceiling. Napit code breakers does have errors, ie, cables in wall without rcd protection C2 is an error. I looked at an recent EICR on saturday completed by another electrician with his quotation for remedial’s. (The client wanted alternative quotes). The remedial’s were in excess of £1k, after reading the report & visiting the property, no remedial’s were required, the client is not happy. You can yourself into deep water if your not sure what your doing or just giving your personal thoughts on an EICR. The majority of the time you have to use your common sense & engineering judgement. We would all love to replace that old 3036 board. We can all make recommendations, but they are purely that recommendations. Pricing, if you want to do an EICR for silly low price & not inspect & test the property properly if something happens it will come back to bite the spark who signed that report. You cannot sample everything, but samples should be completed, if there are loose connections (C2), sort them out later.👍🏼
@Adit209
@Adit209 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on mate, I’m in agreement with everything you have said, regarding the downlights and regarding other sparks remedial work lists. I’ve had one recently C2 for 6mm main bonding, C2 for plastic DB, C2 for no RCD (even though it’s a first floor flat) the list goes on. We should all know these aren’t C2s but some sparks are either ignorant or simply trying to rip people off.
@AdrianColes
@AdrianColes 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t the downlights become accessible when you have to change a bulb??
@benevison7434
@benevison7434 4 жыл бұрын
Fan isolators not required if a window installed. That’s in electricians house to building regulations. However manufacturer probably states isolator.
@persona250
@persona250 4 жыл бұрын
Fire rated downlights belong in fire rated ceilings and not many ceilings need to be fire rated be careful with that .
@thomasbambridge6974
@thomasbambridge6974 4 жыл бұрын
@persona250 So many electricians don’t understand that a fire rated down light is maintain the fire rating integrity of a fire rated ceiling ... even if the ceiling is made of marshmallows they recommend them 😂🤣
@davidb3537
@davidb3537 4 жыл бұрын
All domestic ceilings have a minimum 30 minute fire rating ( plaster/ plasterboard). Don't know what kind of house wouldn't??
@jmohammad3762
@jmohammad3762 4 жыл бұрын
Like you pricing Tom. Unfortunately I don't have clients like yourself my clients cry and whinge for £150 saying I'm too expensive. And I do them according to guidance note 3 no short cuts. Wish you best of luck if your getting that sort of money.
@killerkhan
@killerkhan 3 жыл бұрын
Just started doing EICR's, It takes a longer than people would think. It's hard coding something as C2 or C1 because the landlord always argues it, then the estate agents get a bit annoyed. They never accept that they have get a new consumer unit. Also the estate agents bring us down to a ridiculously low price.
@metproltd
@metproltd 4 жыл бұрын
Great video - hope your head's okay!
@nicwhite1568
@nicwhite1568 4 жыл бұрын
£30 per circuit, no extra for Db. C2 for downlight becomes dangerous when someone pulls it out the ceiling, C3 for dB not fire rated in domestic premises and a rental. Personally I would recommend dB with split or rcbo type.
@alastairhumphries46
@alastairhumphries46 4 жыл бұрын
Mrs Jones falls down the stairs because of RCD trip and no lights.Fit a full rcbo board and Mr Jones falls down the stairs because lighting rcbo trip "BUGGER"
@fumthings
@fumthings 4 жыл бұрын
i would argue that only electrical safety need concern you, the safety of the stairs is a building matter, or use a torch.
@tonywalters5396
@tonywalters5396 4 жыл бұрын
You should add the cost of a hard hat on that job🤣 I do £50 for the board and £20 per circuit with a minimum cost of £190. To be fair, there are always additions.
@advertslaxxor
@advertslaxxor 4 жыл бұрын
@opening: If Linus was a electrician :)
@markobrien7802
@markobrien7802 4 жыл бұрын
F**k of a thing to happen when you are not expecting it. Hope you are ok!! On the EICR... We have them in Ireland too but we have a set list of questions to answer. You also have space for test readings etc. I'll send a copy of one to you if you are interested in taking a look to compare!
@tomorichard
@tomorichard 4 жыл бұрын
I believe the first defect you looked up is relating to rcd’s in series not a single rcd supplying a full installation. 👍
@CjsGfX
@CjsGfX 4 жыл бұрын
There not in series
@beardedsparks2825
@beardedsparks2825 4 жыл бұрын
He meant downstream.
@tomorichard
@tomorichard 4 жыл бұрын
Connor Stanley I was referring to what he was relating it to in the code breakers book 👍
@daveaustin53
@daveaustin53 4 жыл бұрын
If there’s ever a danger from lights failing (customer responsible for risk assessment), then surely the remedy is an emergency-type fitting. The cause of the power failure - RCD, MCB, power cut etc. - is besides the point.
@tonyyoung3437
@tonyyoung3437 4 жыл бұрын
TT earthing systems have RCD protection for all circuits !!!
@sean1325
@sean1325 2 жыл бұрын
Best ending to a video ever that yerno your reaction I'm crying hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣
@loosecannon5813
@loosecannon5813 4 жыл бұрын
Tape measure needed for checking bathroom zone limits
@09weenic
@09weenic 4 жыл бұрын
Yes very good point - I always have one close to hand
@davewright22
@davewright22 4 жыл бұрын
Your pricing is very accurate
@jayja45
@jayja45 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously a single RCD is not ideal, but if you counted the potential for lights to lose power as a C2, then wouldn’t you have to class every installation without emergency lights as a C2? Incase of a power failure, or a fault on the lighting circuit itself.
@marktaylor7288
@marktaylor7288 4 жыл бұрын
C2 for the spots, not immediate danger as you would have to pull the fitting down to get access for live parts
@chrisbleackley9318
@chrisbleackley9318 2 жыл бұрын
Had one of those doors on the cu at high level I a customers house used a Dyson stick to prop it open 😑
@AlfsMoon
@AlfsMoon 4 жыл бұрын
Love this video . As an apprentice I found this really useful. Hope your head is ok after that nasty bump.
@paultaylor4032
@paultaylor4032 4 жыл бұрын
If in doubt go with the highest safety concern so I would have put that fuse board as a C2
@AdrianColes
@AdrianColes 4 жыл бұрын
Are the lights in the cupboard switched by closing the door??
@waynebennett8640
@waynebennett8640 4 жыл бұрын
Doing my 2391-52 next month, thanks for the heads up with the codebreakers book. I will not be signing any installations for £100. Having a laugh, what's the point! I agree with your way of pricing or it's just not worth doing 👍. Great video Nagy
@KDC_Electrical
@KDC_Electrical 3 жыл бұрын
I charge £45 admin fee and 20 per circuit in Belfast. I'm expensive but most eicrs take 4 hours and an hour on the cert. If I find dodgy things I'll rip it apart and if it's just small things I'll likely fix it ie stickers, replacement socket etc. nabit, while good in parts, has some errors. I found myself in disagreement with most of your coding lol You did use a tool to assess that downlight so that's a c2 for me. C2 for broken rcd housing Rcd discrimination c3 Tails not secured c3 No rcd test sticker c3 No earth met sticker c3 No circuit chart c3 No access to socket c3 The double pole RCD is a linked main switch no code. Just my opinion of course. Cunt1 for that door!
@davidb3537
@davidb3537 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, Great video, couldn't agree more with going by gut feeling, it comes with experience. I like that you sort of promoted the NAPIT code breaker book, it's about time that a decent guide was produced, it will help create some uniformity in EICR observations. I use mine to back up my observations to the client, they can't argue if its printed in black and white.
@LordClunk
@LordClunk 4 жыл бұрын
Did you try shutting the door to turn the lights off in that cupboard? I only ask as I once had a house where a cupboards lights would come on when the door opened.
@zjzozn
@zjzozn 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a trap 😂
@teamsjonline
@teamsjonline 3 жыл бұрын
Cor, and I thought I had a bad day trying to find a fault on a ring, least I didn't have a door fall on me!
@leecartlidge4124
@leecartlidge4124 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I would not of coded the lights needing to be fire rated as the house is classes as on containment (ie not flat above) if you used the lights as a c1 you would need to isolate that circuit. I would of coded access to live parts as a c2 as it only becomes dangerous when light is removed so potentially dangerous. Just my thoughts on it. Well presented video though.
@rhysjones1189
@rhysjones1189 4 жыл бұрын
If its a house they are fire rated to protect the joist/floor structure above. Plasterboard has a resistance to fire which the downlights should match. Nothing to do with fire compartments.
@johnwaby4321
@johnwaby4321 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget if you put a C1 code then you have to fix it straight away ..
@ef7480
@ef7480 2 жыл бұрын
Only the private corporation (known as 'the courts') will decide whether a C1, C2 or C3 is relevant based on how much they wish to raid your estate. The legislation is set up in conjuction with the private (not public) oath of the barrister, solicitor etc in order to place the responsibility, and tie the hands of the operative whom has chosen to undertake the activity by way of contract, bounded by the said legislation that sets the position of the goal posts and places the average person at a disadvantage in every respect...
@kevinpoore5626
@kevinpoore5626 4 жыл бұрын
All right well I live in the United States of America and thank goodness our electrical quite that complicated we don't have to have certificates for our electrical system
@chrisdorrell1977
@chrisdorrell1977 3 жыл бұрын
Not only informative but comedy aswell!! Liking the channel 👌
@JoshMurphyDrums
@JoshMurphyDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Lets be honest, we've all had one of those moments there at the end and the rage just surges through your body, making you want to destroy your surroundings and change career all at once hahaha poor lad!
@markhorton8578
@markhorton8578 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the door drop being left in. So many of these professional videos edit out all the real life stuff.
@stewartharrod8562
@stewartharrod8562 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the spotlight exposed junction exposed live ends would be a c2 as it's only accessible via tools and ladders
@misstakenot9582
@misstakenot9582 3 жыл бұрын
No tools - just the removal of a spring clip. Householder changing lamp could easily be exposed to this.
@londontrada
@londontrada 3 жыл бұрын
Your definition of a "linked main switch" is wrong. Linked main switch means the L & N are isolated simultaneously as opposed to L & N being separately switched. There's no need to have an isolator for 2 seperate boards.
@7chappers
@7chappers 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry man. Have to say I did watch the end about 6 times 😂 hope you’re good
@davey6024
@davey6024 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly same tool set for me including the Larry apart from i use long nose not snips for removing cables out of tight boards for testing.
@stevecraft00
@stevecraft00 4 жыл бұрын
Was there a door frame switch or reed switch in the door frame for that closet?
@TimmyBoja
@TimmyBoja 3 жыл бұрын
You are not the only one to suggest that. I did look carefully at the footage and saw nothing.
@Nathan61705
@Nathan61705 4 жыл бұрын
Downlight connections C1?! It's in the ceiling. C2 for not being in an enclosure.
@michaelviney3737
@michaelviney3737 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting to get your approach to doing EICR. There is a balance to be reached on how items are inspected but in all cases it is to do with electrical safety only. Ie all your C2 vs C3 examples can only be C3. Falling downstairs etc is not relevant. Safety wise nothing wrong with a board of breakers and external RCD in it’s day and it is still not electrically unsafe today. But then what do I know? I completed my 5 year apprenticeship with the electricity board 60 years ago!! I think your pricing is about right ….4 hrs to do it properly
@davidmaxwell4834
@davidmaxwell4834 4 жыл бұрын
Check if there is a door switch on that walk in wardrobe upstairs to switch lights on an off when you open the door..
@robcamm7584
@robcamm7584 4 жыл бұрын
Had an enquiry about an EICR recently, used your price model and client basically said I was ripping them off, they reckon their normal spark did 8 bed houses for £100, I asked who it was and checked companies house, he’s gone bump! Shocker! Lights on perm in cupboard, is that why there is an extinguisher in there? The guy is a lemon, a lemon I say! Wallop, karma is a bitch! Give the door a C1! Entertaining Tom, back to the old style Nagy vids. 👍🏻
@jacekwojnarowski8597
@jacekwojnarowski8597 4 жыл бұрын
😂😱sorry Tom looks like your gut feeling was spot on....big thumb up as you are honest and talk about £££ , this really helps break the Taboo
@stephencoulthard1718
@stephencoulthard1718 4 жыл бұрын
Title for this video should be "Electrician C1's a gaint electrical man trap, following taking wood to head" :)
@twowheel_enthusiast5925
@twowheel_enthusiast5925 4 жыл бұрын
With regard to your pricing it only seems expensive due to the individuals willing to do an EICR for £100 then proceeding to do 6 in a day. Im a Glasgow company and for a new domestic property we have not tested before its £30 per circuit, for that you are getting an incredibly in depth inspection. Inspections thereafter we reduce to £25 per circuit as we know the installation has been brought up to standard and testing is much more efficient. Alot of the reasoning behind people thinking £300+ expensive is that they do not understand what a proper EICR is, that also goes for the Electricians carrying them out. Its almost a box ticking exercise and it is something which needs to be addressed. The sheer amount of EICRs i have carried out, signed off by someone else not even 1 year prior and they fail after opening the first socket or light fitting. Keep up the good work and keep driving home the importance of a good electrician. Its great to see, I have many of the same traits as you with regard to doing things the absolute correct way every time and no hash bash shit 👌
@adammiddleton3362
@adammiddleton3362 4 жыл бұрын
Why is non fire rated down lights a C2? I assume the house is all one fire compartment and therefore the downlights aren’t penetrating a fire barrier and therefore fire rated downlights aren’t required.
@sheargillsparkie9588
@sheargillsparkie9588 4 жыл бұрын
Flipping heck, I felt that. I had the exact same thing happen to me during an eicr! Only the door was twice as thick. You suffer concussion as a result. Blooming painful.
@creativejamieplays7185
@creativejamieplays7185 4 жыл бұрын
Cupboard door is a C-10. (And that's a minus not a hyphen). Improvement recommendation: Hydraulic thingy you get on a boot.
@andydownie5627
@andydownie5627 4 жыл бұрын
Mate, your videos are fucking brilliant! Keep them coming! Hope you're head isn't still pounding!
@Thefishyveteran
@Thefishyveteran 4 жыл бұрын
I’m afraid I did 😂 when door fell after calling the bloke a proper lemon. Fire rating of down lighters, there are a number of factors I’d consider but if it’s within the confines of a purpose flat it’s self then possible no need, if it’s a pre 85 conversion then possible yes. Down light wiring, I’d suggest c1 no tools needed to change the light bulb and potentially exposed to bare wire.
@rik061119
@rik061119 4 жыл бұрын
C2 downlights read the line above pvs connection not enclosed ABOVE the downlight
@andrewyeo2353
@andrewyeo2353 4 жыл бұрын
Dangerous notification pull the main fuse for front end rcd. Reason granny falls down the stairs to reset rcd then grandad get head injury when closing cupboard door
@masomadanish2961
@masomadanish2961 3 жыл бұрын
Great video n honest guy..
@cjmillsnun
@cjmillsnun 4 жыл бұрын
Lack of discrimination on RCD protection as shown is C3. By risk of danger, they are referring to risk of shock.
@shorty57red
@shorty57red 4 жыл бұрын
Just redone my 18th edition We must not use discrimination anymore we now have to use selectivity to be politically correct.
@graemetaylor8933
@graemetaylor8933 3 жыл бұрын
1st one of your videos I've seen, brilliant - informative & damm funny, pricing very interesting, too many people wanting us to do an EICR for under £100, all they want is the paperwork with our name on it
@leebutterworth7465
@leebutterworth7465 4 жыл бұрын
Tom great video as usual, But why did you think it was safe to stick your pinky through the hole in the base of that upstream RCD when the main fuse was still in and no proof of safe isolation the upstairs dressing room with the lights on was it not switched on the door casing with a microswitch???
@DavidE95959
@DavidE95959 4 жыл бұрын
as someone who is not an electrician i would think you would code something based on the electrical danger (loose wires, live backboxes) not based on the danger being caused by the power going out and per your example someone tripping on the stairs. But as i said i am not a electrician and maybe the regulations say to do otherwise.
@cprfenom
@cprfenom 4 жыл бұрын
9:30 is an excessive code imo
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 4 жыл бұрын
the start and clunk on head.. yep, we've all done it and we all still do, I still bounce head off things on the regular, breaking glasses/spectacles often.
@dexster747
@dexster747 4 жыл бұрын
Up here in lancashire, I charge between £80-£120 for an EICR in a domestic property (up to a 12 way board). I know of people who charge £50 per EICR and they are just not worth the paper.
@pulseelectrical595
@pulseelectrical595 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Tom! Pulse boys here! North London based. Our Charges: £70per board. £25per circuit. +Parking +Vat Possibly do a small discount if board has more than 10 circuits.
@rogerbean393
@rogerbean393 4 жыл бұрын
What percentage do you check of the install. Hopefully you take a meter unlike Naggy !
@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers
@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers 4 жыл бұрын
Add to the tools... an MFT? And, a laptop. Not much... Over £1,000?
@petehiggins33
@petehiggins33 4 жыл бұрын
And a hard hat.
@coralbay00
@coralbay00 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣💥 fuck sake dude.....noggin 💪 I trust my gut feeling mate....EVERY time 🤝
@Baron9969
@Baron9969 4 жыл бұрын
"Mrs. Jones is coming downstairs and the old RCD trips, she falls down and snaps her neck at the bottom of the stairs. Well that's a C2 then. If it was a bungalow would that be okay because there aren't stairs?" Nah, that's a C3 then. Plus get Mr. Jones a torch just to be safe. :-) My amusement might be inappropriate, but just loop Tom saying those words. You'll never find sentences like that again. Too funny. (Note: We may have different testing for levels of humour in the USA. This passed.)
@elco_os9355
@elco_os9355 4 жыл бұрын
If falling down the stairs due to lack of power is considered as a hazard you should install emergency lights, since the mains power could fail anyway.
@Daniells1982
@Daniells1982 4 жыл бұрын
Tom trips over the dead body at the bottom of the stairs and sprains his ankle 'awww ya bastard....right you're getting a C1 for that!'
@Nottsforest79
@Nottsforest79 4 жыл бұрын
Now we are taking into account people falling down stairs! Come on
@kriskris4552
@kriskris4552 3 жыл бұрын
Ive got storage room without conventional switch...Ive installed door switch. You open the door...magic...lights are on! Close the door...magic...lights off. Maybe you will get any idea??? Cheers
@TheYohtube
@TheYohtube 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Tom great video as always...is that NICEIC Software your using an offline version or the normal online version.???
@connordines5080
@connordines5080 4 жыл бұрын
Ever though about using iCertifi or electrialform both much better than the NIC software and have the NAPIT code breakers built into software still web based
@claas6504
@claas6504 4 жыл бұрын
Just done an EICR today at work!
@JugglingTeacups
@JugglingTeacups 4 жыл бұрын
Could that RCD not be considered a Main Switch as per the option in an EIC? And as long as it meets the disconnection time it should be fine shouldn't it?
@peterg.8245
@peterg.8245 4 жыл бұрын
But it switches 2 boards
@zjzozn
@zjzozn 4 жыл бұрын
No
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