How I flatten my knife sharpening stones | Knife sharpening tips 4

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@thehomemadedisease9485
@thehomemadedisease9485 7 жыл бұрын
I swear man I'm thankful I found ur videos. U took away all they mysticism associated with sharpening. I was never able to get my knives sharp before I stumbled on ur stuff. Now I got all my knives to shave. Thanks man
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! glad I could help! Thanks for the comment😀
@tonydavila2606
@tonydavila2606 7 жыл бұрын
I had to stop in this comment because that is exactly how I feel too. Before I used to think sharpening was like for experts, like only experts can get their knives sharp and they have to spend hundreds of dollars , find $200 stones and all of the specialty items and strops, thinking your Stones had to be flatter than glass in order to get any sort of edge. But then we have this channel like flat Stones? Nah it doesn't matter, you don't have stone? Well bring out your car window or a mug a simple strop made from a belt or cardboard and BAM you can split atoms in half lol
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Haha! It's a big secret, the cheap stones work just as well as some that cost 10x more. If your after a mirror polish edge you can comfortably shave your face with, than the expensive high grit stones are a must. If you don't plan on shaving with your edc blade than you can get a way with pretty much anything. It can still be hair whittling sharp on cheap stones, it won't be a comfortable shave though 😉 I think too much attention is put on gear and what you use. Rather than how you use it. Just my opinion, thanks for the comment 😀
@Dr_V
@Dr_V 7 жыл бұрын
Great practical tutorial as usual. I'd like to add a tiny bit of advice if I may. If you do this by hand don't throw away the sandstone dust, you can use it on a wet cloth for surface rust removal and rough polishing of large irregular metal objects.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting, ill keep that in mind👍
@Kurokubi
@Kurokubi 6 жыл бұрын
It's also used in the clay for yaki-ire (differential hardening) the whetstone powder is added to a 1:1:1 ratio along with clay powder and charcoal powder. It's then mixed with water and applied to the blade with little to no clay on the edge.
@moxee33
@moxee33 2 жыл бұрын
That's very clever 👍
@nessimbenammar4494
@nessimbenammar4494 Ай бұрын
I must thank you for the amazing tip. I bought 3 sheets of 120 grit water-resistant sandpaper, put on a thick glass surface (in my case short table), added some water and flattened my 3 Shapton Korumaku stones. I had no vice, so I held the paper with one hand and moved the stone with the other. Not even 5 minutes I was done. After, I rinsed the sandpaper with water and let it dry for later use. I marked each one with the grit of the corresponding stone to not mix them up. Total cost 3$. You're the best!!!!
@neilreid9005
@neilreid9005 6 жыл бұрын
Plain speaking expertise, like working with an experienced machinist. Perfect- thank you!
@PACKLEAD3R
@PACKLEAD3R 6 жыл бұрын
Hello. I just wanted to say thank you for some great tips, very helpful info on each one so far. Beginner here. thanks again
@LTT.Official
@LTT.Official 7 жыл бұрын
Man I love your whole outlook on your videos, the whole it's not rocket science, a lot of these other channels like to overly complicate things. I actually sharpen my knives on sandpaper sometimes and it works out great.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
It can be complicated if you want it to be, but doesn't have to be. Its a simple process to sharpen. But like many things theres a lot of different ways to do something.😀
@375halomaster
@375halomaster 7 жыл бұрын
I really like your simple presentations with plenty of knowledge. I wouldn't mind this channel getting huge, but please, don't let the fame go to your head.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend! It would be cool to be a huge channel, but no amount of internet fame could make my head any bigger. I already have a problem finding hats that fit😉 Again thanks for the comment, I really appreciate it!
@allenwright947
@allenwright947 4 жыл бұрын
I have astone that became too cupped to be useful. The belt-sander idea was perfect. I put pencil lines all over and sanded (with a mask) until the lines were gone. Now it is like a new stone. Thank you.
@javierantoniovarasgenestie5313
@javierantoniovarasgenestie5313 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Your videos are realy good stuff. I eas able to get a razor sharp edge with your sharpening techniques. Realy thanks and keep rocking!!
@Uncle_Red
@Uncle_Red 7 жыл бұрын
Just be careful with the dust it can kick up. Silicosis is no fun. That's one big reason for using water.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
You'd have to breath a lot of dust for silicosis to occur. That typically happens over years of exposure. Ive worked in areas where silica dust was a problem. Even with proactive gear I've probably breathed more of it in that environment than I have flattening stones once or twice a year. Id still recommend using a mask or water if the thought bothers you. Thanks for the comment😀👍
@andreachinaglia5804
@andreachinaglia5804 5 жыл бұрын
@@OUTDOORS55 The fact that one had already exposure to dangerous dust is not a reason to avoid to protect ourselves, maybe is a reason to protect us more carefully as the risk grows with the amount of the exposure. My 2 cents are that for someone that flattens occasionally the stones without power tools there is no reason to worry, using the belt sander it is completely different, you had to switch off the camera to protect it, the same is true for lungs. A protective mask is really cheap, even the professional ones, and flattening the stones as last work of the day the next day the air should be clean enough to breathe without any risk.
@timothygraves1531
@timothygraves1531 4 жыл бұрын
Dude this is just what I was looking for I really appreciate what you do thanks
@XsplosionBR
@XsplosionBR 7 жыл бұрын
You are so serious and so funny at the same time lol Talking From Brazil :D
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Hahaha😂! Thanks for watching my friend👍
@scottecooke
@scottecooke 7 жыл бұрын
Personally I would recommend flattening whenever you put a straight edge like a steel ruler against the stone, hold it up to the light and see light come through the gap. You will find that even though you level it more you will wear the stone down less. Especially with these more expensive stones that can be desirable. To explain why it wears less imagine a pothole in a dirt road. It starts off really tiny. But you will notice it will double in size faster each time (up to a point and with the same amount of traffic). This is because as it gets bigger the gets hit harder each time and therefor grows faster. With the stone you are basically doing the same thing with the gully in the stone. Typically I am a little lazy and don't do all my stones at the point I mentioned unless I am doing other peoples knives. This is because you get a more consistent angle on the blade when the stone is flatter. But for my knives I don't mind so much.
@UmarRosyad
@UmarRosyad 2 жыл бұрын
simplet short video that explain every thing we need thank you!
@DAVIDMILLER-nc9vo
@DAVIDMILLER-nc9vo 11 ай бұрын
At 1:48 don't continue flattening, use the flat surfaces of the ends to sharpen your pen knives and other items like scissors. You don't have to flatten the stone all at once; conserve! And if you use the right technique you can even use those flat spots to sharpen your 8-inch chef's knife.
@MCraftize
@MCraftize 7 жыл бұрын
I was searching a solution for long time. Thanks for solution it helps a lot
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome glad I could help😀
@rockets4kids
@rockets4kids 6 жыл бұрын
A much better and cheaper way to do this is with a piece of scrap glass (very easy to find on trash day) and some silicon carbide blasting grit. Also, learn to better utilize your stone's surface area so your stones don't get so dished in the first place. And finally, as many others have said, never do this dry for safety reasons. Using a lubricant also makes the process go faster and cleanup easier.
@jamesfarmer2748
@jamesfarmer2748 Жыл бұрын
Atoma diamond plates and water for me. I try to protect my lungs as much as possible.
@austiny6512
@austiny6512 5 жыл бұрын
But wont that change the grit surface of the stone?????
@kenrickchow
@kenrickchow 7 жыл бұрын
Great video and thanks! But will a corse sand paper corse out a fine stone?
@DawahTrucker2024
@DawahTrucker2024 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the great advise, I have a 500/2000 grit stone that the soft side is getting with out in the center. Next time I will use sanding paper to flatten it cause it looks like your work out Norton stone.
@manifestgtr
@manifestgtr 3 жыл бұрын
I think flatness has gotten WAY OVERBLOWN in the knife sharpening world. The internet has given rise to the “super amateur” who thinks that certain details are of the absolute, utmost importance at all times. I notice it in the guitar world, too (which is my actual profession, blah blah). Guys yapping away about the absolute NECESSITY of buffers, true bypass, proper impedance, etc. Meanwhile, you start discussing these things with a professional and their eyes glaze over. They look at you like “what’s this guy even talking about”. Here’s the reality. I inherited my grandfather’s old, handled whetstone and the thing has an enormous valley...like, half of it is gone. My grandfather could gut a trout or filet a perch in his sleep. The moral of the story: Skill and experience are your two biggest assets...ALWAYS. Just understand that knives don’t need a pitch perfect edge and they weren’t designed for whittling hairs. Should you improve your skill and shoot for the top? Absolutely...but just know that certain things can become a bit of a distraction if you allow them to.
@SmiTTyy-sh8nc
@SmiTTyy-sh8nc 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, always learning something from you. Thanks for the good tips !! I remember my pop's had some old wood clamps in his work shop just like that one.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are nice clamps. Expensive to buy new. I got these from my grandfather when he passed. I used them for everything😀
@Griff33
@Griff33 7 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the info. I guess i never really thought about it (flattening). Still trying to get good at sharpening on a stone. Its taking longer that I thought. Anyway thanks for the video
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah it can take practice. Once you "get it" its like riding a bike. Definitely worth the time to learn.
@-IE_it_yourself
@-IE_it_yourself 10 ай бұрын
have you tried a lower grit?
@threedogsandacamper503
@threedogsandacamper503 6 жыл бұрын
Shapton makes a reasonably priced cast iron lapping plate that comes with carborundum abrasive powders. They also sell an unreasonably priced diamond lapping plate, but it is extremely flat....
@pauljs75
@pauljs75 7 жыл бұрын
Some people just use two identical stones (pairing a set when new), then it's possible to true them against each other. You just have to remember to alternate between them when sharpening too.
@andreachinaglia5804
@andreachinaglia5804 5 жыл бұрын
the correct technique is to use 3 stones, as with only 2 is likely that a convex face and a concave one are obtained, the method can be used sometimes with not too dished stones if the sand paper is not available for some reason, as the surface will be very close to flat, but using only and every time the 2 stones method does not give a good result as once a pattern concave face and convex face is established each subsequent flattening make it worst.
@redangrybird7564
@redangrybird7564 5 жыл бұрын
@@andreachinaglia5804 I do flatten my two stones against each other and I've never had a problem. Please explain to me how having two equally concave stones of the same brand and same grit, you end up with one concave stone and convex the other, it really puzzles me. Thanks.
@andreachinaglia5804
@andreachinaglia5804 5 жыл бұрын
@@redangrybird7564 because even if you try your best to have an even movement you can end in 2 flat mating surfaces as well as in 2 mating surfaces that are 1 concave and 1 convex. Actually the old method used to obtain lenses was to rub one against the other 2 discs of glass with some abrasive in between, while to obtain those perfectly flat granite blocks that the mechanics use as reference 3 blocks of stone are used alternating them constantly. I don't doubt that you obtained 2 flat enough sharpening stones, but using exclusively the 2 stones method it is sure that you will end with 1 concave and 1 convex surface in the long run. And as the surfaces will mate perfecthy your only chances to correct it is to introduce a 3rd stone or use a flat surface and sand paper. Keep what i say in the correct proportion, you can flatten your 2 stones many times with the method you use, but as soon as you start to see that the obtained surfaces are 1 concave and 1 convex go to the sand paper using the most true surface you have to back it. I hope that now it is clear to you.
@-IE_it_yourself
@-IE_it_yourself 10 ай бұрын
@@redangrybird7564 oxtools has a video about flattening. i dont fully understand but you need three.
@RamonMarais-k2k
@RamonMarais-k2k 9 күн бұрын
I use a offcut block of granite from a headstone maker and sifted river sand. Use a fine kitchen sieve. Sprinkle the sand on the block, sprits with water and apply elbow grease. Ad sand and water as the previose lot turns to mud. All comes free, and I am cheap, so it is a good deal and system. I use Nortan stones and selfmade pure cement stones, and sandpaper just dulls too quickly.
@mlammikko
@mlammikko 10 ай бұрын
The usage guide that comes with the Shapton 1000 tells you not to use sandpaper for flattening to prevent the stone from getting clogged. I don’t see how that could be a real problem with coarse sandpaper. Do you still use sandpaper with your Shaptons? Any idea why they say this?
@TACHILL
@TACHILL 7 жыл бұрын
as always bro, great info and video! the belt sander would be scary dust!!
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, don't breath this.
@rexlanderson6685
@rexlanderson6685 6 ай бұрын
Hi I enjoy your videos, and have learned a lot.. Please tell me how much pressure in pounds to use while sharpening.. I have good stones. Diamond, Dans whetstone,and water stones. all good quality. Hope you can help me. Thanks
@yellowdog762jb
@yellowdog762jb 5 жыл бұрын
Well darn, I never thought to use my belt sander! I have two stones from the dollar store that I switch between to flatten my third, good stone. I also have a 1 foot by 1 foot square piece of granite. It's about 0.5 to 0.75 inches thick, and fairly heavy. I got it from a company that does granite counters. They had free machine cut samples. If you don't care about the shape, anyone installing granite counters will have lots of cast offs they will probably give you. Another source is granite floor tile. It's a little thinner, but still machine cut and smoothed, and heavy enough that is unlikely to move around on you. You can get a discontinued piece for one dollar. None of these are "machinist" level stones, but you can tape sand paper to them and flatten whet stones, or even sharpen items on them.
@martinbugge6220
@martinbugge6220 4 жыл бұрын
Big fan of you man. Thanks for the good content!
@JukeboxJake
@JukeboxJake 6 жыл бұрын
I once tried to flatten an old oil stone on my belt sander, but the stone was harder than the belt and the belt dulled right out, and just burnt the wood in stead of sanding it.
@sudo_nym
@sudo_nym 6 жыл бұрын
Once you get close to flat, draw diagonal lines on the centre of the stone with a pencil. When the pencil no longer shows, it's flat!
@jeffclarkofclarklesparkle3103
@jeffclarkofclarklesparkle3103 4 жыл бұрын
You need to try a nice big flat piece of mudstone. Im not sure the grit but im guessing 300 to 600. The best part is they're free 😁 and they make their own slurry with a bit of water
@olivermilutinovic749
@olivermilutinovic749 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips there. For something like a coarse Shapton glass 220, what grit paper would you recommend ?
@Smokinstrainstation88
@Smokinstrainstation88 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man you should do a video on the dmt credit card stones for portability
@heyarno
@heyarno Жыл бұрын
Nice, this is easy to teach to others. My method is to eyball where I use a diamond sharpener to gently rub my wetstone. And I don't know how to teach others how not to make things worse with that method.
@davidforsberg4113
@davidforsberg4113 3 жыл бұрын
thank you very much I was looking for a way to restore my stone and this helped me out a lot. I was about to go buy some fancy shit that todo this saved me some money!
@jonilenov8291
@jonilenov8291 7 жыл бұрын
hi Alex thank you for all the information and skills that you are sharing. is it possible for you to make a video on how to sharpen a karambit
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't have one currently but if I come across one I definitely will. Narrow stones are what you need. Something like the lanky turn box system works as well. I have a short video on the lanky turn box where I quickly sharpened a kukri style cold steel spartan. Hope this helps😀
@jonilenov8291
@jonilenov8291 7 жыл бұрын
thank you
@autiseedllc8661
@autiseedllc8661 11 ай бұрын
Me like, you smart man. All other videos get into high tech this and that. flat surface, sandpaper thumbs up.
@user-cg9oi5ug4d
@user-cg9oi5ug4d 6 жыл бұрын
So I set it up then go to town, will it be done when I get back from town? Does someone come in and do it while I'm at town? I'm not sure i want a stranger in my house while I'm at town
@chinh101
@chinh101 4 ай бұрын
Doesnt the sand paper grit get changed if you sand it with sand paper?
@BackcountryExposure
@BackcountryExposure 7 жыл бұрын
I was literally just about to ask what stones these are and where to get them. I have used that sharpening kit thing that comes in the box that doesn't close and I just don't feel like it's doing the job. Im going back through Outdoors55 University in sharpening and getting some real stones and learning. Just need that cash... dang adulting and buying diapers!
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Haha! I'm surprised your lansky isn't working out. Been using mine here and there. Only thing is the stones don't cut the greatest and it takes time. I don't know if I'll buy these stones again. They work great but require getting used to. They are slurry stones and very soft. They also take a lot of time to use. Ceramic stones are great and easy to use if you buy a super coarse and fine. The edge pros are great too if you can deal with the size. A lot of good stones out there. Just a matter of finding one you prefer. And I hear ya on the diapers 😂
@tomturbuckle0076
@tomturbuckle0076 Жыл бұрын
Some stones on concave to give a convex grind. Such as are used for katanas. So depends on what your aim is. Still I agree flatter stone is best.
@jhonnybravosc
@jhonnybravosc 2 жыл бұрын
Piece of picture frame glass and some SiC powder. I like 120 grit....and a splash of water. Done in 60 seconds. Takes longer to get out the glass and sprinkle the powder....pencil hash marks to check when done.
@randmayfield5695
@randmayfield5695 4 жыл бұрын
Again, a well done instructional. Subscribing. Thx.
@joeyates1428
@joeyates1428 7 жыл бұрын
You have great videos, I find them very informative
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I Appreciate the kind words, thanks for watching my friend😀
@oldgeccko8207
@oldgeccko8207 7 жыл бұрын
PS, about time you got us another video, we are Jonesing for knowledge man😵😆
@Blakes123
@Blakes123 Жыл бұрын
What cheap diamond stone would be good for flat
@justinhorn4246
@justinhorn4246 Жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to do this to mine for a long time but didn't wanna ruin it. Thank you
@-IE_it_yourself
@-IE_it_yourself 10 ай бұрын
does this work on oil and ceramic stones?
@NWHomesteader
@NWHomesteader 7 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thanks. Just went shopping with hubby for our 30th anniversary. I got a Spyderco Para Military 2. OMG, what a knife!!!! 💕
@NWHomesteader
@NWHomesteader 7 жыл бұрын
Matthew M LOL! Yep, I’m not the typical girl. All these years later, he used to it - although for our 10th he got me a mens carhartt coat, that didn’t go over too well!! 😂😂 #complicated.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Lucky! had my eye on another para for quite awhile. I lost one years ago after 3 days. That ruined me on expensive knives for quite some time. Don't loose it!!😀
@NWHomesteader
@NWHomesteader 7 жыл бұрын
OUTDOORS55 that WOULD be heartbreaking!
@oldgeccko8207
@oldgeccko8207 7 жыл бұрын
I've seen the Norton's Stone Beginner's set on Amazon and it comes with a stone flattener, have you used one of those? I'm still saving up for a good middle priced set of water stones, I think I'll try those Edge Pro one's you showed, don't want to spend a lot and end up going back to my faithful Lansky set.😎
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried a dedicated flattening stone. Im not sure they are worth the money unless you need to flatten a lot. The edge pros are great if you don't mind the small size. They cut great and last forever. I wish they made them slightly bigger though.
@johndifrancisco3642
@johndifrancisco3642 6 жыл бұрын
Does the grit of the sand paper matter? Like if you used 100 grit paper on a 3000 grit stone, would you ruin the stone? And thanks for saying that they do not always have to be flat. I did not know that. I will subscribe to see more of your videos. Thanks!
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 6 жыл бұрын
notgrit doesn't matter but you do want something aggressive. Ive flattened mine on a side walk before. Maybe not the best technique but it works. Just be sure to wash the stone off before use.
@stefanwolf88
@stefanwolf88 7 жыл бұрын
I like that you use the word "relatively" several times - sharpening is personal thing and every man has its ways. Sharpening cutting tools can be really relaxing and enjoyable hobby. I catch myself sometimes trying too hard and makes simple process difficult. P.S. These Norton stones look too soft and it is sad to see so much abrasive to go into the trash - can I suggest: Naniwa Professional 400 and Sigma Power Select II - 1000 in the lower grits? Keep the good work and the interesting videos coming.
@Uncle_Red
@Uncle_Red 7 жыл бұрын
Stefan Wolf, why not naniwa professional 1k?
@stefanwolf88
@stefanwolf88 7 жыл бұрын
Frederick Kunitz only reason to suggest the SPS II 1000 (it has no bonding agent/material) - to try different types of stones
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Stefan Wolf- For sure, sharpening is a personal thing and everyone has their ways. What works for me may not work for others. The Norton stones are soft stones. They are slurry stones and really need practice in order to use efficiently. They work great when used properly. Although if I had my choice I would use splash and go stones over slurry stones any day. I use the edge pro stones more than anything. Im not super picky as to which stones I use. As long as they do the job thats all that matter to me. I guess I'm a simpleton haha. Thanks for the comment😀
@eyeslo4206
@eyeslo4206 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you couldn't get a wicked sharp convex edge on a stone that worn.
@akaimon3
@akaimon3 6 жыл бұрын
Have you tried dry wall sanding screens?
@r1w3d
@r1w3d 7 жыл бұрын
Another great video 👌 gotta say after seeing it a few times you have a nice little shop there. Do you work with wood? I only ask because the tools occasionally seen and wood clamps show up now and then.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, I've been a finish carpenter and worked in the construction industry my whole life.
@r1w3d
@r1w3d 7 жыл бұрын
OUTDOORS55 that's awesome :)
@myxboxcnq
@myxboxcnq 4 жыл бұрын
That was a perfect stone for convex edge.
@bushlifeaholick790
@bushlifeaholick790 6 жыл бұрын
Easy peezy thanx man
@seangordonrichards
@seangordonrichards 7 жыл бұрын
really enjoying your videos
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I really appreciate it!
@tacticalcenter8658
@tacticalcenter8658 7 жыл бұрын
i dont know if it will save that much money vs SP. but i get a jar full of SiC powder in a lower grit and put it on glass or granite tile and a lil bit of water. i dont let my edge pro stones get that flat typically, so i don't use much of the powder. its basically make your own sand paper without the paper. i assume this could save money depending on how much you get and the cost for it vs 5 sheets of sandpaper which is pretty cheap to begin with. SiC, even tho its harder it wears out faster than say ceramic/Alox. you would think it would last longer and not dish so often. i like using ceramic but i avoid it at all cost for vanadium steels where SiC and diamonds cut Vanadium etc without effort.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
That was one of the methods I was referring to. I am usually always stocked up on sandpaper so thats what I use. The Sic powder id have to order. Thanks for the comment😀
@tacticalcenter8658
@tacticalcenter8658 7 жыл бұрын
Matthew M SiC = Silicon carbide
@saigyl9149
@saigyl9149 4 жыл бұрын
When every stone i've bought has been concave, this is good info
@JeffyNguyen
@JeffyNguyen 4 жыл бұрын
Someone else has been using it. 😂
@mark4prez20
@mark4prez20 7 жыл бұрын
If you used water wouldn't it "carry away" some of the removed material and make the sheets of sandpaper effective longer?
@mt_baldwin
@mt_baldwin 7 жыл бұрын
yes it would, I use the same method but it never takes me 5 sheets to flatten a stone, 1 sheet for both sides. Of course his stones might be harder.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
My stones were in bad shape thats why it took so many sheets. I don't like using sand paper after it starts cutting poorly so I change out a lot . I suppose you could stretch it but at the cost of time. Thats my opinion anyway, your milage may vary😀 Thanks for the comment!
@coryjournell1104
@coryjournell1104 7 жыл бұрын
what would be some tips for someone beginning sharpening and I've done some sharpening before but I've never been good
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
For absolute beginners, a good place to start is with chisels. They teach you the basics and hard to mess up. Ill be releasing a video on chisels soon. if you don't have a chisel, and are jumping straight into knives, maintaining an angle, and fully apexing is the most important part. Hope this helps😀
@coryjournell1104
@coryjournell1104 7 жыл бұрын
OUTDOORS55 What are the best stones and how do you know that it's apexed
@martinblouin3639
@martinblouin3639 7 жыл бұрын
you know what i do when i need to grind something that make a lot of dust, i don't have a fancy dust collector, so i jig my shop vac near the bottom where the dust blows and it collects not all but a good part
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, I've done that before! Thanks for the comment!😀👊
@JoseMiguelSantosPT
@JoseMiguelSantosPT 7 жыл бұрын
Suggestion, use an 8 (eight) figure pattern or path to ensure a more even surface. You sound like Clint Eastwood, any relation?
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion, I actually do use that method but forgot to include footage of it. I was trying to keep the video short as stone flattening isn't the most exciting thing haha. And Clint is actually my dad😉
@JoseMiguelSantosPT
@JoseMiguelSantosPT 7 жыл бұрын
I assumed he was lol. Continuation of the good work and greetings to your father.
@welchianachi7707
@welchianachi7707 5 жыл бұрын
This method is good for relative soft stones, the problem is to flatten high quality ceramic I.e. (SiC, Al2O3 ZrO2) in they pure from and all sorts of mix of them. The only way there is to use another as hard stone and arm yourself with patient. You may use diamonds but it is expensive. I writing it cause I allerdy flattening one of this hight tech stone, and it is not a easy task.
@osbaldohernandez9174
@osbaldohernandez9174 6 жыл бұрын
Where did u buy your stones at
@martinblouin3639
@martinblouin3639 7 жыл бұрын
might be a dumb question but is it critical that the stones be flat? like how far yours was, would that produce a poor grind or the wrong angle?
@Uncle_Red
@Uncle_Red 7 жыл бұрын
martin blouin it will just cause a convex grind/bevel.
@tacticalcenter8658
@tacticalcenter8658 7 жыл бұрын
yes, you will need to have flat stones for a proper V edge. if it's a little off, it may not make a huge difference but better to flatten them more often than not. unless you want Convex edge (which if your daily tasks benefit from a convex edge, then its great idea, google edge types). does Outdoors55 have a video on different Edge types? that would be a great one for him to do. what the different grinds are and what they specialize in.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Tactical Center is correct. It doesn't hurt anything but will give you a slight convex edge. I have found, even with a flat stone, I will still convex a little. Im not sure a human is capable of maintaining any angle, as to not convex even a little. Im sure someone out there can, but its definitely not me haha. Knives with large bevels like scandis it is possible to get an accurate perfect v shape with a flat stone. It just depends what your looking for.
@tacticalcenter8658
@tacticalcenter8658 7 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree. its hard to not convex a little unless you get a guided system like KME, Edge pro, lansky etc. but as long as you apex it will cut.
@luciusirving5926
@luciusirving5926 5 ай бұрын
I use a brick with silica sand to flatten an oilstone.
@kevinragsdale6256
@kevinragsdale6256 7 жыл бұрын
I use piece of glass and some carbide grit.
@tonydavila2606
@tonydavila2606 7 жыл бұрын
150 Grit? I wouldn't mind using 150 on my 1000 Stone, but is 150 still okay to use on a 10000 Stone? I mostly only use this stone for straight razors, and I may need to flatten it soon but I'm not sure what grit sandpaper to use
@scottecooke
@scottecooke 7 жыл бұрын
Depends how bad the stone is. If you have to do a lot of work and it has a big gully in it like the stone on this video the do most of the work with something like 150 grit. I would still probably do most of the work with 150 grit anyway or lower. Then when it gets close I would finish it with a finer sandpaper, I would recommend 600 grit. If you don't like the way it feels then you can adjust up or down from there.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
If your stone is bad it will take awhile on anything finer than 150 grit. I flattened my 8000 on 150. If you need it to be super smooth for the first blade use a finer paper and smooth it out.
@chadpound9204
@chadpound9204 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@elizabethsnead1059
@elizabethsnead1059 6 жыл бұрын
Can you do 6000 and higher with sand paper
@jamesbunnell7436
@jamesbunnell7436 2 жыл бұрын
Sidewalk looks pretty good it's how I've had to do it
@2011musashi
@2011musashi 7 жыл бұрын
Very good vídeo...
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you😀
@vinniesdayoff3968
@vinniesdayoff3968 7 жыл бұрын
Good tip, thanks
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching friend😀
@willthecameraman
@willthecameraman 5 жыл бұрын
If you dont want to waste all that stone material to flattening you should just use the whole face of the sharpening stone to sharpen your knives. Im pretty new to sharpening my chef knives for work. But i always try to use every part of the stone to avoid just flattening.
@marvelousmaker
@marvelousmaker 2 жыл бұрын
I used a concrete slab to flatten one of mine it worked alright.
@ahhhuchiha3834
@ahhhuchiha3834 6 жыл бұрын
Does that affect the grit of the stone ?
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 6 жыл бұрын
No it shouldn’t.
@alcyhodzic8259
@alcyhodzic8259 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you been waiting for this :D
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!😀
@derekmatthews3714
@derekmatthews3714 3 жыл бұрын
WHAT GRIT SAND PAPER ARE YOU USING?
@kris7791
@kris7791 3 жыл бұрын
When he peeled the sand paper over the backside revealed he was using 150grit sandpaper
@CreativeRedundancy
@CreativeRedundancy 7 жыл бұрын
great. I ll keep this mine. when i see a big dip in one that maybe to flatten it :D TFS C.R.
@yeaman992
@yeaman992 7 жыл бұрын
If you draw a checker pattern in pencil on the stone, you can see more accurately what's being ground away, so you don't take too much stone away. Over time it really adds up. Also you would save money over time if you used a diamond plate vs sandpaper. P.S. You will lose cutting performance sharpening a knife on a dished stone.
@Kurokubi
@Kurokubi 6 жыл бұрын
Herb Toker yes, i had to comment to tell you that I like your profile pic. I've always wanted a mitsu tomoe tattoo. Something about it just looks really cool to me.
@ardvarkkkkk1
@ardvarkkkkk1 6 жыл бұрын
You could also use oilstones and not have to worry about it.
@ChickenPermissionOG
@ChickenPermissionOG 2 жыл бұрын
just use a lapping plate
@peterlafayette5595
@peterlafayette5595 6 жыл бұрын
Straight forward, no bull shit video Thanks.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching my friend!
@murnahan
@murnahan 3 жыл бұрын
I have flattened some of my stones on nice and flat sidewalk.
@codybryant8684
@codybryant8684 7 жыл бұрын
What part of the states are you in beautiful site
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Pennsylvania😀
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Haha although the time-lapse at the end in in North Carolinas blue ridge mountains😀
@ImpureGunner
@ImpureGunner 3 жыл бұрын
I've used it on sidewalk before it work but thn u gotta hose off sidewalk it works tho
@ared18t
@ared18t 7 жыл бұрын
I use water to prevent dust
@RisenCitizen
@RisenCitizen 7 жыл бұрын
Good video! Way to keep it simple for people like me XD lol.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt, as you can probably tell, I'm simple as well haha😀
@Laszlomtl
@Laszlomtl 2 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@michaelt6413
@michaelt6413 7 жыл бұрын
That's all I do. Just I use waterproof sandpaper. 220 grit and a flat floor tile.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah its really not a complicated process. A floor tile is a good idea!👍
@actanonverba1385
@actanonverba1385 5 жыл бұрын
man those norton water stones are soft as hell compared to shaptons
@atomichabanero9101
@atomichabanero9101 7 жыл бұрын
my personal stone is fine but the one in the kitchen is bad on the coarse side I might touch it up on the sidewalk since its so bad
@Splash111
@Splash111 2 жыл бұрын
People moan and groan about Diamond Flattening stones or the coarse stone variety with angles slots. I've been flattening mine like this for years....and my chisels will shave hairs. Good video video.
@Splash111
@Splash111 2 жыл бұрын
Oh...new subscriber. Well presented videos. 👍
@dw7444
@dw7444 7 жыл бұрын
Why don't you stone your stones after using them each time? It keeps them them clean and flat.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Cuz im lazy..
@jacobpannell9652
@jacobpannell9652 7 жыл бұрын
Do you have to flatten ceramic stones? Is there any sort of stones that will last you a lifetime? Thanks
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, all stones need flattening at some point. Ceramic will last the longest but won't last "forever". Ceramic Is also expensive so so depending on how much you sharpen, might not be worth it. Hope this helps🙂
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