How I Have Saved Over $50,000 in Two Years in China

[@albert794]

What makes China a good place to retire is the fact that it has no property tax. A retired person basically has no cost of living except food, water, electricity, and internet in China. My grandparents bought their old house in upstate New York for $6,000, the house was evaluated to be $860k by the county and their property tax is $24.5k a year. A bit crazy for retired old couple.

[@budawang77]

That's insanely expensive. I'm paying $4000 per year for our 3 bedroom house in a good suburb here in Canberra, Australia and I think that's a lot.

[@tuppenceworth5485]

There are a lot of retired folks who have to get by with $24.5k a year from their pension!

[@beeroseinchina]

That is a crazy amount to pay! Based on all the perks in China, including the no property tax thing, I am considering retiring here

[@opticandersonopticanderson3364]

​@@beeroseinchinagood luck with your visa. 😅

[@Jayjay-2007]

there are a lot of countries with low property tax as there are a lot of poor people like in China. And they own property for 70 years only and no one knows what will be later.

[@laojizhou20]

Internet speed in China is extremely fast. I went to a small village (!!) during the last Christmas holiday and checked the Internet speed there, it's >600Mbps. I use Comcast's 600Mbps plan in Silicon Valley (!!!) and the actual speed never exceeds 300Mbps. Looks like Internet going to every house in China is optical fiber based, I was so amazed.

[@yukonzhang3034]

Yeah, thx to Huawei!

[@zhouwenzong]

@@yukonzhang3034 and ZTE

[@saiusmc]

Also complementary censorship from the PRC. You can save some much on VPN.

[@gelinrefira]

My internet speed is 2500 Mbps. I usually get 2300 or so.

[@vectorthrust7417]

It has been stuck at 600 Mbps in most cities in China for quite a while. We are currently unhappy about being unable to fully utilize the popular 2.5G or even 1G Ethernet connections🤨

[@tyraelk7629]

The cost of living in Beijing is among the highest in China. A second or third tier city would be more affordable, and the quality of life is just as good, if not better

[@beeroseinchina]

thanks for watching and really appreciate your support ❤️ more to come soon!

[@林北就是唱秋]

You have to strike a balance between how much you earn, you get and spend. I believe Beijing gives more high end job opportunities and higher income, at the end net saving and convenience justifies.

[@thomasantn]

@@林北就是唱秋 And famous ancient sites for sight seeing.

[@lm-pw9ul]

Air is cleaner in smaller Chinese cities if you don't mind the more 'boring' and traditional lifestyle. Though compared to living costs in Western countries, China is still significantly cheaper. Shanghai is more modern than a lot of Western cities but the living cost there is still significantly lower than in Western cities i.e. Sydney, Melbourne, etc. Shanghai metro/subway system is much better than Melbourne's and the tickets are much cheaper.

[@xiba8703]

but wouldn't the salary be lower in a second or third tier city too?

[@jogana6909]

It must be noted that the consumption level in Beijing is higher than that in other cities in China. If you live in a small city in China, the expenses will be much lower.

[@beeroseinchina]

exactly!!

[@vjthemad4852]

It's actually way way way much lower

[@yutian5884]

Chaoyang, the area she lives in, would be considered the Chelsea area of both London and NYC. It is a expensive neighborhood with similar vibes. So the living cost will be higher compared to other areas of Beijing. Beijing functions on a ring road system. The further out you go from the city center, the cheaper it gets. The east and north side are also more expensive compared to the west and south side.

[@galoise5364]

Chaoyang is very large though. The peripheral part of Chaoyang isn't expensive.

[@weizhang2834]

@@galoise5364 yes , even ring 5 belong to chaoyang , the two universes CUC etc

[@hmegadeth]

Now I understand why you are so laid back and chill on your videos. You are from the south of the US!

[@beeroseinchina]

you know it!! 😉

[@阿琳-f9e]

what makes difference? the South will be more chill?

[@林北就是唱秋]

Wireless Internet is classified infrastructure in China, just like the old Chinese saying, 'Wanna get rich? built a road to your place first'. Speedy internet brings online shopping to next level, you can order your lunch box, and it creates more job opportunities.

[@jogana6909]

The American people are suffering from inflation. However, many places in China are experiencing deflation, and prices are lower than a few years ago.

[@ahkoy973]

After watching this vid, retiring in China sounds very tempting... thank you

[@beeroseinchina]

thanks for watching!! more to come soon~

[@nuo.not1033]

Buying homes in China is different from buying homes in the United States. Once you pay the full price of the purchase, you will get 70 years of use of the house, and no longer pay a percentage of the value of the house every year for life. The Chinese do not like the various complicated taxes on the purchase of products, the service fees for using products, and the price is the final cost. There is no tipping culture, go to the restaurant only pay for the food, of course, now there are some restaurants to learn the tipping culture, this is not right!

[@weizhang2834]

In the USA , you got bills almost every day of per month, too much bills

[@beeroseinchina]

When I went back to the States recently, I had reverse culture shock when I realized I had to tip again. It's nice not having to tip in China!

[@peanut0brain]

After 70yrs you can pay maybe $4000usd to get another 70yrs . I think.

[@nuo.not1033]

​@@peanut0brain If we assume that an adult is 20 years old and can control his income, when you use 20-30 years of savings to complete the house purchase process, you still have 40 to 50 years of use time, by this time you are 90 years old.

[@peanut0brain]

@@nuo.not1033 pay the 4k and save the house for the kid or let him her sell it for a profit

[@lordlee6473]

In Denver Colorado, you have to make 100k to be considered a middle income person who can afford rent, food and other expenses, but you still won’t be able to afford buying a house, not even close.

[@peanut0brain]

I'm paying 4000rmb per month for a 160sm 4 bedroom apt in chongqing , nice modern remodeling 😂

[@dlf4298]

Yeah We are planning to move back to china next year. Been Live in USA for 4 years now. The cost of living is nuts. Btw. My wife is from the South too! Tennessee～

[@mariato7245]

What part of China did you live in that you're going back there and how is the cost of living? I'm 71 years old and thinking of retiring over there. I can't afford to retire here in Las Vegas, Nevada

[@TONYLIU-m3e]

@@mariato7245 you can choose to live in yunnan or guizhou , low cost and good wether.

[@gelinrefira]

You have to factor in the cost of owning a car because you literally cannot get anywhere in the US without a car. You cannot use NYC subway or any public transportation as a comparison because that is not available for like 90% of the US population

[@TheHongbu]

Most cars are cheaper in China than in the United States, with the exception of pickup trucks and luxury brands.

[@peakserv]

Hi BeeRose, Can you tell us how you ended up in China, how you master the Chinese language and how you met your husband. Looking forward to your videos.

[@beeroseinchina]

I would love to talk about this stuff soon! Stay tuned~ and thanks for watching 😄

[@peakserv]

@@beeroseinchina Suggestion: Make multiple videos, one for each topic. Limit each one to 10 minutes or less.

[@dyrectory_com]

Thanks for the cost of living in Beijing. 👍🏻

[@0animalproductworld558]

It is nearly impossible to live in the US. One month of work sometimes isn’t enough to pay for rent. Prices of products went up but my salary did not go up.

[@beeroseinchina]

this is a big problem 😢 things are getting so expensive. people's salaries should reflect the price increases

[@0animalproductworld558]

@@beeroseinchina Yes but there is no way the government can do that. We don’t have enough technologies (:

[@aranduser]

When the gov raises the salary up, the shops close down, just like Mc Donald's.

[@0animalproductworld558]

I live in the US and I don’t have to pay for my insurance. The company pays for it. As an engineer with 1 year of experience, I am making only ~$60,000 a year though and a raise every year until it is capped out. I pay for my dental at $50 a month. I live with someone so I don’t have to pay for rent which takes some stresses away.

[@garylee9668]

my house in florida, water is more than $100 per month just for watering the lawn😭 even i don't live there for a single day,

[@Gopherminator]

In California is $2900 for 3 bedrooms and two bath. Not including utilities.

[@beeroseinchina]

this is so expensive 😓

[@garylee9668]

guess you don't live in big cities. in Manhatan or SF, one bedroom is more than $5000.

[@JSG-m1t]

in DTLA one bedroom apartments is about $4000

[@hallowwin2721]

U.S. is ranked no.1 in the world on healthcare spending, yet the average life expectancy of Americans is the lowest among all developed countries😂

[@drflat9223]

Drugs. It is a huge contributor, all thanks to China.

[@PurdiSuhirah]

because the cost of healtcare so high that make americans get strees a lot even with insurance still pay alot... they even better ride a uber when accident happend instead ambulance if can be done

[@jt6231]

It takes roughly $10,000/month in the SF Bay Area to live as a middle class family of 4.

[@MarcoAshford]

Time to move back to Van life. I'm in LA and there's no way I'm getting a kid or buying a house anytime soon. My ultimate goal is live in a sh!t hole and save up money. Once the passive income is big enough, I'll start travelling to lower cost country to have some quality life.

[@jamalgreen3056]

The bottom line is you make more money in eastern countries and you also save more money.Because in eastern countries they don’t focus on a certain class or group of people unlike America,Germany,France,Canada.When I think of China,United arab emirates I think of new age money.

[@LW78321]

Cost of living is incredibly affordable!! Melbourne Australia would be 4-5x the cost. Also kudos to you for changing clothes for each section, that's effort! 😆

[@catchingpanda]

I think you should compare salaries. The cost of living may be lower in Beijing compared to Louisiana, but most people there don't make as much money as in the US.

[@GinaZheng]

I thank you for loving China. I want to live there too. I hope to be able to visit for the first time.

[@garyevergreen5035]

It's amazing! Thank you very much!

[@curtisdrago]

What a very helpful breakdown.

[@garysenn1115]

Apartments are cheaper here in Tbilisi Georgia! I only pay $400 a month for rent! I can get a 2 bedroom apartment (if I wanted) for between $500 to $700 a month! And everything is cheap here. WiFi, Electric, Gas, Water and FOOD! I am only living on SSDI ($1600 a month) and I live very comfortably! and YES, I feel safe here!

[@心在远方-p1m]

完全赞同你的观点，因为我也住在北京。如果你是为了在中国享受生活，不工作，那么不推荐在北京 上海 广州 深圳这些大城市生活；生活成本高 ，拥堵，汽车污染都会给你带来困扰，当然这里也有最好的医疗、服务、学校、高档餐厅、商场等等，尊重你的选择，祝你在中国生活愉快！

[@ikevinckub]

Even working in Beijing, paying rent isn’t easy. Rent has increased significantly over the past decade. If you don’t buy a house, you’ll face frequent moves, but purchasing a house comes with a hefty cost.

[@schoolyogaluo9468]

how do you manage to stay in China? extended tourist visa, family visa? do you have to leave China to renew Visa when visa expires?

[@qingshanyipian1936]

Family of 4 in sugar land Texas. Monthly cost for our household is $6500 per month. We need to move to Louisiana or Beijing.

[@figgbx112]

It‘s unbelievable. If you have this budget in China, you can enjoy the emperor’s life, although it‘s a little exaggerated.

[@BTS-zq2vy]

About private school: when my kids were growing up, we paid about US$35,000 per school year each in Beijing International School and we paid almost the same amount when we moved them to a private school outside Toronto. Today, the same private high school near Toronto charges about CAD78,000 per school year or about US$55,000 for high school. My grandchildren are costing about CAD39,000 (US$28,000) each per school year for private primary day school in a different school near Toronto.

[@heimuk]

Beijing is one of the most expensive city in China, and Louisiana, i suppose, is not the most expensive state in US... I can't imagine how much cost if you are living in NYC...

[@12567NoYouCannot]

NYC, Washington State in the Pacific Northwest, and California, are Extremely EXPNESIVE US States.

[@cnpdb]

I'm from Beijing, and if I look back on 30 years, prices are always rising, so I will probably make myself feel a little happier when I see your video 😁

[@黄冠-s5k]

BBC,CNN：so you took CCP"s money

[@beeroseinchina]

😂

[@原子小金剛-c1y]

😂😂😂😅

[@BryanDeng-oc7ft]

She is a CCP member and pay monthly membership fee to CCP 😂

[@GeraldBeagan-ee6se]

@@BryanDeng-oc7ft She's planning the Taiwan takeover as we speak......

[@stevensun1258]

What about tax in China? For someone who lives in California, including federal and state tax, on average, at least 1/3 of your income goes to tax (it does depend on your income bracket).

[@yuehchen7308]

Very interesting and very educational, thanks.!!! 😍🥰🥰🥰🤩🤩🤩

[@LarahVlogs]

Even though these costs are comparably lower than the U.S., it's good to note that other cities in China are actually much lower. 🙂

[@薯芋]

just googled the electricity price in Lousiana, only 9.37 cents, nearly the same price as in China. AC is really an energy black hole.

[@TheHongbu]

Electricity prices in China include all costs. The price of electricity in the United States is not the same. There are also some fees such as service fees. The actual cost in the United States is probably 2 times the price of electricity.

[@dyrectory_com]

Curious, what are the popular real estate websites in China? Thanks.

[@beeroseinchina]

for renting, Ziroom is very popular amongst foreigners. www.ziroom.com/ for buying, beike and lianjia! bj.ke.com/ and bj.lianjia.com/

[@dyrectory_com]

@@beeroseinchina Thanks for that info.! 👏

[@kimmypee4813]

The last part 😢 schools are so expensive

[@ΑρετήΠαναγιωτοπουλου-ω2ο]

What is the average salary in china ? Also what do you do for a living?

[@gvhuang]

The internet/phone combo is a good deal, but I would still consider it a bit high in China. Here in Shenzhen we are getting three phone numbers with shared 30 Gig 500 min and home internet for 90 RMB per month.

[@TheHongbu]

Her fiber optic broadband speed is 1000M

[@poonchisanglouis]

Thank you for sharing 😊

[@jt6231]

Too bad they don’t have retirements visa option.

[@BryanDeng-oc7ft]

Maybe China government will consider the retirement visa to some developed countries soon.

[@LisaTao]

Vet bill is way off. My dog gets annual check up in Denver Colorado for roughly $550 every year.

[@stevensun1258]

I believe it is accurate in Louisiana

[@jimmyhoang83]

Used to live in New Orleans east.

[@Earthman99999]

I enjoy your videos and agree with your assessments about living in China. I would just be a little cautious about trying to persuade everyone that they should move to China. At other countries and places... I have seen many American expats living there and complaining that "things are not as great" as they were told it would be. Now they are stuck there because they got scammed of most of their money and they bring a toxic vibe to the area with their bitterness. Some of them are mentally ill and are also very disappointed that they thought moving to that country would "fix all of their problems"... and it did not. Moving to another country is not for everyone. I'm genuinely happy to see (from your channel) that it worked out great for you.

[@12567NoYouCannot]

I think Bee got lucked out because of her husband. A lot of people Do Not have the kind of SUPPORT that Bee has, husbands and wives, and their families, a lot of times Help Out in transitioning a New Place/Country, thus making the experience a Lot less Challenging.

[@Earthman99999]

@@12567NoYouCannot Yes... moving to another place will not fix everyone's problems like in the movies. There is no such place as "Fantasy Island" in this World.

[@terrima4064]

Beerose, i would like to know how easy or difficult it is for foreigners to get a driver's license and own a car in China. Here in Taiwan, I travel around with a gasoline powered scooter as it allows me to go far, unlike electric scooters.

[@beeroseinchina]

Hey! I have my license in China and it was very easy because I just transferred my license from the states, and took a very easy online test (in English! phew!). As for owning a car, that is also very possible. The only thing is, if you are in Beijing, you have to enter a lottery to see if you can "win" a car plate, and then you can buy a car, but not before that. In other cities, it's much easier

[@terrima4064]

@@beeroseinchina That's good to know because China is a huge country, with so much to see. Having a car would allow me to explore more.

[@xjj-dd3jf]

China's car price is low, Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen and other cities salary to buy a car is relatively easy, you need to limit the number of cars through the license plate, otherwise it will lead to traffic congestion, the license plate in big cities is more expensive than the car, if you do not plan to drive to these big cities, the Chinese driver's license test only needs about 500 dollars. Don't get on the big city license plate is almost free,10000 dollars can buy a good car, you can travel all over China

[@skychoitw4034]

Support 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@ericye3777]

I want to make a point: the cost of living in Beijing is one of the most expensive in China

[@peterwu8471]

Where do you get such a cheap place in Beijing!!!! That is a very good price!

[@galoise5364]

I'd say the most major part of living in the US is cost in health care and education.

[@ttemp2631]

It doesn't make sense to compare cost of living without relating to the income

[@calvyncraven1141]

Didn't she paste in the thumbnail that she managed to save USD50K in two years? Thats 25k per yr or ~2k per mth. Thats ontop of her monthly expenses of ~2k a month. So her income should be ~4k-5k a mth

[@ttemp2631]

@@calvyncraven1141 nothing is mentioned about this in the video, remains guessing

[@beeroseinchina]

unfortunately, I can't legally disclose what my salary is because of the contract I signed. But it seems like @calvyncraven1141 did the math! 😉

[@tn18977]

Tons of Beijingers make less than USD 1,000 a month.

[@bobsmith3983]

@@tn18977 And they can still save money. Imagine that.

[@dav5253]

Let me tell you that if you say in the US, going to public school is free, you would be wrong because your parents are paying school district through their property tax, even if they don't have children.

[@peterwu8471]

However - what is your earning potential in Louisiana? How much can you make in Beijing? That's an important consideration - though very hard to calculate. Also, there is job security. How long will you be able to maintain this comfortable life. I love living in China, but with the chaos swirling in the world today, I don't know how long this will last.

[@TONYLIU-m3e]

west people sometimes have advanages in some job market, which bridge between countries and cultures. like international trading, education, etc.

[@TONYLIU-m3e]

also on some high tech sector, stem graduates would get high payments.

[@weizhang2834]

I pay 199 dollars water feee per month in California, most of the fee from the local government, the real water I only use around 20 dollars, the government charges a lot of weird fees which I really don’t understand

[@beeroseinchina]

that's a lot to pay based on only $20 of water usage!

[@nepaleseinchina]

500 for electricity still a lot for that big apartment

[@beeroseinchina]

I agree, I think we need to cut back somehow as a family and use less!

[@Glory-to-God.]

I am paying $110 Canadian for 150mbps in Toronto. My rent is $2300 Canadian per month for a 55 sq meters

[@beeroseinchina]

so expensive holy moly 😓

[@44jwong]

Internet in China surprisingly very cheap!! I wonder though, what's the average salary in China and can they afford that monthly costs vs US salary,

[@budawang77]

The US seems really expensive these days, partly because of the strong US dollar. Australia where I live is often considered expensive, but seems to be cheaper than the US for a lot of things.

[@jogana6909]

In fact, the Internet expense in this video is very expensive. I have a friend who lives in Wuhan, and his monthly Internet (Broadwidth 10M/s，can share to all equipments) fee for his house is RMB23, which is equivalent to USD3.24.

[@beeroseinchina]

for locals, the average salary can be within a wide range of about 3,000RMB-13,500RMB

[@Jayjay-2007]

average in country around 3000. 40% live under 150 usd

[@vjthemad4852]

I can give you a positive answer: it's indeed very cheap, 500MB/120RMB/month in avarage 3,000RMB salary region

[@susiewyy]

I'm skeptical of the analysis. Best to ask local chinese who may experience a different perspective and different cost of living standard than a foreigner.

[@Camus886]

If you always buy a apartment in China, the cost much lower❤

[@rocketmangenesis]

It may seem like you are saving since the cost of living is lower, but your paycheck is lower, as well. A nurse in the USA makes more than a nurse in China An IT worker in the USA makes more than an IT worker in China. A McDonald's employee in the USA makes more than a McDonald's employee in China.

[@leealex3320]

LOL, what you said about income are all right, but any McDonald's employee or a nurse in the USA has $50,000? maybe $5000 is pretty hard for them:)

[@darend8896]

I am a Chinese Canadian, my grama and grampa was from China, guangdong, i should be in China.

[@bobsmith3983]

Different era. Your grands probably moved to Canada when China was poor.

[@Jindinhackerhelp]

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[@apec3100]

If you make money in the U.S. and spend it in China then it’s cheap. Otherwise, China has higher cost of living for most Chinese people.

[@apec3100]

I don’t know whether or not you’re making only RMB in China or some USD on platforms like KZbin. Considering the minimum wage for China is 15 RMB and 15 USD for the States, no doubt living in the States costs less. If you convert the 15 RMB to USD, that equals 2.07 USD. What can you do with 2.07 USD in America?

[@JG16888]

❤

[@1694KK]

我以为美国人都不爱存钱的😂我觉得中国政府有一点是全世界最好的，可以用最低廉的价格提供人民体面的生活。你可以10块钱吃饱饭，20-30元吃好饭，也可以1000元10000元吃一顿奢侈的饭。没有谁比谁更高贵，而每一个人都能有跨越阶层的希望。

[@skysthelimitrai7590]

5:18 so true.

[@yingxu7908]

Yes，in China alway go miter

[@EduruChan]

Ye

[@rickyrecuerdo1582]

😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@shawnzhsh]

move to shanghai, where maybe more pleasant of climate :)

[@galoise5364]

I'd say you still paid too much rent when you were linving single. You didn't have to live near city center. If you moved to the more peripheral parts, rent would have been much lower.

[@beeroseinchina]

you are right! It is way cheaper the further out you go. I picked that apartment because it was close to my old job (in Haidian), and the rent there is so high, even in the 5th ring of Beijing (due to all the tech companies there)

[@stephanieluk4992]

lovely❤

[@lokaskarak3442]

Why western girls in China dress modestly but not in America?

[@Hua_Dong]

Because the minimum of people who can afford immigration is the middle class, or they are usually people with higher quality, I guess

[@GeraldBeagan-ee6se]

Smart women who are capable of living abroad do not act low class

[@xiba8703]

now I'd like to know your salary cuz if that is significantly lower than in the US you're still broke like in china too... like you can't make such a calculation without income!

[@birdyashiro1226]

😂😂哎呀，不要把秘密说出去啦！

[@tomtom-uo7lf]

but u earn much more salary then us in Beijing,so ...

[@johanqian1858]

your electircty bill is a little too high,for a single,you can not uaw higher than 30 dollar😂

[@laviebanale]

Save money and then move back to the U.S to buy a home. I lived in China, so, I know the game. 😀

[@ponuni]

lower costs of living also comes with lower wages and vice versa. this only makes sense to people who are looking for places to retire and are on a fixed income, but then again why would you want to retire in a country with a gazillion people. it sounds stressful and not very relaxing if you ask me.

[@thewiseone7286]

The PPP index is much higher in China than in the US. Which means the standard of living is higher in China than in the US. The PPP takes into consideration the exchange rates of both countries.

[@ponuni]

@@thewiseone7286 this has nothing to do with what I said. You can keep lying to yourself but you’re not fooling anyone. Nobody is lining up to go to China, but we got a bajillion people lining up to come to the U.S.

[@12567NoYouCannot]

@@ponuni That's because the USA lies to the World about the standard of living here. YES, we have it Better than most countries in certain areas, but the people here AREN'T LIVING, besides; you have No idea about other problems we Are facing here in the USA, that resembles communism, but Americans Are Great at making things look "PERFECT" in Appearances. There are many Americans and Europeans that went to live in China and they Absolutely LOVE IT, but I guess Not Everybody is going To have the same experience.

[@sigmaboy1995]

Lmao If you want to compare, the average salary in the U.S. is several times higher than in China.

[@thewiseone7286]

The PPP index is much higher in China than in the US. Which means the standard of living is higher in China than in the US. The PPP takes into consideration the exchange rates of both countries.

[@sigmaboy1995]

​@@thewiseone7286 Of course I know that China's rich have a lot of purchasing power. but Did you know that 600 million people in China earn less than $300 a month? lol

[@jeffreysetapak]

Yes, you managed to save so much money after you carry out iron fist style control over your husband's money. Hee hee hee hee 😁😁😁😁

[@life3600]

But why there are still so many young Chinese people choose to "躺平"? After watching your video I felt like we live in a parallel world 😅

[@zaidiao]

你忽略了Rose显然不属于"躺平"的人群，人家有高学历和丰富的人生经历，以及有自己的梦想。你在看到有很多人躺平的同时，更应该关注有许许多多的年轻人开始承担各顶尖行业的先行者。

[@zaidiao]

在中国，你可以找最简单的工作选择躺平依旧可以不愁温饱，这在美国就已经无法实现😂

[@zaidiao]

如果你有更加远大的梦想，中国也有足够大的舞台让你去追求，事实上更多的人选择了奋斗，不然你以为中国为啥发展这么快😂

[@良江李]

作为一个中国人，我想说你在这里说这些是没有流量的，不符合KZbin算法

[@michaeltse321]

wow - you're rich - 20 years and you're be a millioare

[@kevinaa114]

you pay too much for electricity

[@waldenlaker]

把你妹妹介绍给我呗，我还惦记着呢。would you please introduce me to you sister? I am still thinking about it. I have three apartments in Chengdu, we could live a pretty chill live style.

[@12567NoYouCannot]

You think her sister would like You??

[@biancoinu1619]

Is this state run channel?

[@georgegong4626]

Although living expenses is lower in China than US, but the other important part of the equation is missing. That is income. American in average make a few times more than Chinese. So if we talk about living standards, US is still much higher than China.

[@TheHongbu]

China's regional development is uneven. The per capita GDP of Beijing and Shanghai is as high as 30,000 US dollars, which is significantly higher than China's average level. But on the other hand, Beijing and Shanghai can enjoy the low prices throughout China. Since China stipulates that industries such as water, electricity, communications, and transportation must be operated by state-owned enterprises, these state-owned enterprises provide services at basically the same low prices throughout China. China is also the country with the most complete industrial categories in the world and can produce almost any kind of industrial products. The price of these industrial products when sold at home is always much lower than when sold for export. All these have led to low prices across China. So the quality of life in developed areas of China is actually very high.

[@GooseGander]

Ok, no offense but not all uni grads are created equal. This one appears to have the mind of a spoiled 10 year old.

[@donm-v5s]

but the salary is much higher in usa than that of china, and don't forget china is still a third world country although she has made gigantic progress.

[@GingiLzfungu]

America sucks. I cant believe I was born here and not in China. I am moving to China with my Chinese husband.

[@jobslolo7387]

in france i pay what... 39$ unlimited data on phone 5G and 1000M internet, free education (yes including university) and we get (almost) free healthcare, does not mean life is not expesnive otherwise in france. also ... various cost of living in various countries without an income reference per year is ... well uselss. private school in china can be pretty expensive, my friend has a kid and he pays 50k usd a year in xiamen. The average monthly salary in Beijing is around 13,442 yuan (approximately $1,920 USD). Average in NYC $8,925 so .. yeah ... i mean basically who would have guessed things get more expensive when the average salary is higher ? flabbergasted if you want to make thing actually fair. State your income, and put various spendings as a total of your income. then you can comapre % spending from one country to another. your apartment costing 5000RMB is the minimal wage (3500RMB) of most workers in my factory when i worked in sichuan for instance.

[@budawang77]

The French love to complain about their country, but I think life is pretty good there if you have a decent job of course.

[@beeroseinchina]

I can't disclose my salary because I signed a contract saying I wasn't allowed to do so. if you google it though, you can get a rough idea. Also, it's hard to compare Beijing to Sichuan as rent in Sichuan is way cheaper on average

[@jobslolo7387]

​@@beeroseinchina you could just combine your household income without breaching anything. since you would not be stating related to your own only. Your answer also perfectly goes with my statement, if you cannot compare beijing to sichuan both being in china, how can you realistically compare china to usa the way you do it. Just lke i said without a reference, in your case Average income where you live and also your own household income, it's just numbers, nothing more. And regarding the legality of said NDA: such an NDA is deemed too broad and unreasonable, since its not related to trade secret or confidential business information and is generally deemed unenforceable in any chinese court as it directly goes against basic labor rights of workers to freely discuss and disclose their salary. if i were you i'd ask the legality of that NDA to a lawyer because its dubious, just like a lot of things companies try to force own your throat when signing contract in china.

[@12567NoYouCannot]

Still, I understand where Bee is coming from, I live here in the USA, and NO matter how Much MONEY you make in Salary, for Some reason, you never have Enough money; there are people here making $150K, $75,000 a Year, and Some around $50-60K and are still struggling, and those are the ones who are frugal in their Spending. Yeah, Beijing Seems Expensive, but they still get some perks, here in the USA, everything Costs Money & Landlords kill people with their GREED, So No matter how money people Make in Salaries here in the USA, life Seems to be a Constant Struggle, no counting the bitter culture, where you could NEVER make any friends, and where You Cannot trust anybody; Plus Education and Healthcare are other major issues Americans have to face for their entire LIVES.

[@zill8021]

I would disagree on that. She hasn't arrived at that phase yet. Raising kids in China is the most expensive in the world. Due to the population size competing for the limited resources or jobs, parents invest a lot in their children's education. Watch this. She will most likely send her kids back to US for education when they are older.

[@thewiseone7286]

Don't think so. The quality of education in China is way better than those in the US even most of the English speaking world made to believe that the US universities are the best. Chinese students migrated to the US always ended at the top of the class showed.

[@12567NoYouCannot]

I highly DOUBT that she will Send her Kids to School in the USA. Schools in China for children, from Elementary to High School, are WAY BETTER than the USA.

[@chinaiscoming1017]

问题是在中国，哪怕是北京这样的城市，也有很多人一个月收入只有500美元不到

[@speedshen4085]

3000元收入的梗吗？看来你的确生活在社会底层

[@chinaiscoming1017]

@@speedshen4085 发达国家也曾经月薪3000号吧，我觉得中国如果能保持稳定，10年后底层收入也能至少增加一倍

[@zaidiao]

@@chinaiscoming1017事实上我很好奇，在北京选择什么样的工作才能月薪3000😂

[@Ukie88]

Housing market in CCPland is collapsing….haven’t you heard?

[@alrent2992]

Western propaganda 😂

[@Jayjay-2007]

@@alrent2992lol. Bankrupcy on the main developer with a lot of debt is “propaganda”? You must be crazy…. Discounts on real estate is also “propaganda”?

[@chrissong2763]

I am 30 years old, and I have got the news about china collapsing for at least 20 years......

[@shaundudley4576]

Yes, prices are falling. How terrible is that.

[@alrent2992]

@shaundudley4576 No property taxes and prices are falling. Sounds like a buyers dream. Affordable housing in China 🇨🇳 😍