How I Quit My Day Job and Made Millions Trading Virtual Loot

[@StevenB237]

How I quit my job, and lost millions to Blizzard Entertainment via lawsuits.

[@austen5709]

Y'Know just lost 13k "It Happens"

[@TheHostUnknown]

When I was younger, I would scam people out of their accounts, and sell them to make money, often through your website. I was fourteen at the time, and had no real sense of how villainous my actions truly were. Watching your videos has really made me feel remorse for my actions, knowing that I could have been doing honest legitimate business the whole time.

[@wavemotionburn]

Markee don't listen to the trolls. I can see integrity and honesty in you. Regardless of what your past might be. Your future is what you make it and your honor and validation is strong within you. Good luck on your travels. I wish you the best. Cheers. Big fan.

[@MaFoO3523]

Just because someone sells an item for more than what most people usually do it's not scamming or ripping off. I've seen people using those terms quite often in virtual economies recently and no one seems to understand the difference between scamming/ripping off and buying low selling high.

[@GehnrLee]

I love you Marcus. I could (and often do) listen to you talk for hours. Thank you so much for making these videos.

[@Creelian]

Really easy one. Go to Office Depot/Office Max... Check out how much it costs for a Cat5 ethernet cable. >.> Note, at my job working for an ISP, we just threw out about 2600 ethernet cables, because they're worthless besides the tiny bit of copper in them. Buy them at New Egg...

[@jaminboy]

I saw the Markee Dragon somewhere and then it clicked, it had to do with Ultima Online. I played that game for 8 years. UO Grandfather of PvP and MMORPG's, love it.

[@PennyDreadfuI]

I used to buy gold in UO... probably several thousand dollars worth. The only thing I can remember about the transactions is that a female avatar dressed in white and black with long white hair and a beret would make the delivery and would want to meet in out of the way places like Skara Brae. Was this a MarkeeDragon character? She was always nice and speedy. If I purchased gold at 2pm, I would have the goods by 2:30 or so. I wish I could remember the character's name...

[@JohanFreds]

Exactly. Go through what he's going to say before he starts the video, like a script in his head, no doubts, no uhms.

[@CatastrophicalPencil]

His whole style is what pops into his head and almost like a natural conversation. Although he probably should have some better outlines.

[@Larkinchance]

You were right to keep your day job because these sorts of things have a finite life expectancy. It is the essence of human nature to look for exploits and loop holes. They are the engine of survival but once everyone catches on, it is all over.

[@BanditLeader]

and that is why you find new exploits and loop holes

[@Larkinchance]

Bandit Leader agreed

[@ConsiliumB]

Im envious of you and your experiences - you're doing and have been doing exactly what i wish i could do hehe. Ive never really thought of myself as one with an "idol" or such, but man.. if anyone, its you. That mightve sounded rather .. corny - still though, i really wish i could get myself into the risky but fun, interesting and rewarding world of .. well, bussiness related to video games. Could almost call it a dream. Who knows, maybe its possible to get something going with Diablo III.

[@Mystosia]

Markee you always entertain and somehow teach me new things every video, this is quite inspiring like most of your other videos, keep going bro you are a very smart and kind man. I will be sure to read that book aswell sounds good

[@Casemaster3000]

Use to have a very high traffic website/forum that dealt with virtual trading in accounts and items with a vast amount of online games (mainly MMOs). Against EULA of all of said games most likely, grey business. He has since turned "legit". I believe the forums alone were worth 6 perhaps bordering 7 figures.

[@Settings_YouTube-1]

Fine line between ripping people off and profit. It's just a matter of how well you cover it up with image and posturing. Look at the cellular companies. Do you have any idea what their profit margins look like? Or the oil companies? They are the ones truly ripping you off.

[@aaronhargreaves8437]

I can never listen to him, I end up counting how many times he says "And, umm & ughh" in a video.

[@lbowzronpc2653]

The second I read this comment, he said "annnndd... uhmmm... ugh.. lemme grab a book." -_-

[@StrugBugz]

same with obama

[@hogandromgool2062]

This comment killed my high >:|

[@BanditLeader]

And um whats your problem?

[@NATIK001]

It is a monopoly if a person, cooporation or group of either holds the majority of the marketshare. I think the word you are looking for is a Cartel, forming business Cartels is illegal because it means you can artifically keep prices at levels the market otherwise couldn't hold and thus gouge your customers which is bad for the economy in general. That said it depends on the details whether what he did qualified as a Cartel, just working together doesn't make it that.

[@TheReddaredevil223]

It doesn't seem counter-intuitive at all that working with your competition makes you more money. It works so well in businesses that it was out-lawed because it was too unfair for the consumers (corporate trusts, monopolies, price pooling, etc).

[@stupidfrog]

Ladies and gentlemen… We are dealing with someone with no life… "But how do you kill one with no life?"

[@HardsYo]

I can usually understand hate, but i can't think of a single bad thing MarkeeDragon has ever done

[@TheFluffyYeti]

Its not called ripping off, he buys cheap from other countries and sells good in other countries. Kinda like the shops :)

[@ZalthorAndNoggin]

How are we supposed to see the WoW code you flashed up on the screen at the start of this video when the code wasn't large enough, dark enough or steady enough to allow it to be freeze-framed and written down? So far as I'm aware - and I've been a WoW player for 7 years now - some activities are definitely illegal. Selling gold is one, selling game items is another - but if these codes you display are genuine, always assuming they can actually be read and written down correctly, how and where can one hand them in?

[@TheNinjaStealth]

Stop bitching. It's not like he had to give any codes.

[@xMizuKun]

code was clear as day. turn on HD...... also its a video. PAUSE IT.

[@richardfry2069]

ZalthorAndNoggin, The concepts of an act being "illegal" or and act being "against company policy" are very different. One can land you in jail, and the other only get you banned from a service. Your comment makes me believe you are mixing the two.

[@spencerholmes]

OMG you are always losing money! Do you ever make money lol?

[@Smartiezs]

i just watched the old video where you lost 14k, kinda sad that you get so less views nowadays, but your content is still interesting

[@lequebecois2]

Markeedragon is one most interesting man in the world.

[@thade842]

Deriums is cool, talked to the owner ( I think) he gave me a code just for thanking him

[@fatknightsss]

Markeedragon did not get to where he is today without ripping somone off or tricking them. thats a fact

[@retrospectical]

Someone on Kil'jaden (US) got the code. That server has redeemed codes before. Hope the person who got it wasn't just burning the code so others couldn't get it. If you are on Kil'jaden and want to confirm, the code you need to give Landro Longshot in Booty Bay is 3840979580109510439443858

[@seanyboy107]

Not only that, but look at banks and how much they are ripping you off. Look at how much your money makes them and how much you make from them.

[@purepaprika]

This video was 10 minutes longer than it should have been

[@Loaki9]

There are actually laws against competitors colluding to raise prices on the consumers.

[@retrospectical]

Also, for those with problems reading the code on the video, you can make it out (just barely) by changing the quality to 1080.

[@i2Shea]

"I started being a middle-man" You're like a mini virtual drug dealer, props !!

[@TheOfflineRaider]

Nice video like most of the time, but put the code closer so that people that play the game can read it. Ultima online is a great game. I'm sorry, was a great game.I like hearing stories about what people did back in the day.

[@iAeonarial]

Actually he is a middle-aged man with a pet of his preference,there is nothing wrong with that.

[@petrini73]

Marcus, or MarkeeDragon always wore a yellow robe I remember. I, Thor, always wore blue with a yellow chest piece, honoring my Swedish colors. It might have been Goldie that you traded with. There was also "CH" and "Hmmm/Aridiva". Who else was it? Bob from UOEmporium but I dont remember his ingame name, might have been Bob actually...

[@Bondie11]

Competition could be as simple as making more transactions then the person working next to you.

[@Strifezilla]

thanks for answering!

[@ImTheBatchMan]

Everything you have ever bought has been by someone like this. Your computer probably cost about half of what you bought it for, that pop you just finished drinking cost about 15 cents to produce, and the cost to build your house was a hell of a lot less than what you paid for it.

[@kchabwa]

So... He doesnt mention his income, only the loss of 13k, and only ever brings up how he kept his dayjob for security reasons. Misleading title.

[@CleaveBritneyAlone]

He's like Jonathan Higgins from Magnum P.I , has experience pretty much from everything

[@There-Is-No-Virus]

On some servers a castle would sell for thousands of US dollars

[@shakaama]

saying you quit your day job, isn't the same as saying HOW you quit your day job. you should change the title of this video.

[@xrawxtalentx]

Are you still playing TERA Online? I've got a few characters, trying to find the playstyle I like best. So far Archer and Sorcerer are my favorites.

[@Sllice]

By the way markee, there is a word for "Co-oppetition" It's called a "Cartel" look it up.

[@twincann0n]

Hello Marcus! Any thoughts on Diablo 3's potential for virtual to real currency conversion? Do you think the legitimizing of this will boost the potential to make money, or without sales being "black market" driven will the price of items drop so drastically that it will no longer be realistic to make good ROIs? Curious what you would think of it and if this is a major step for the future of gaming and micro-transactions etc.

[@GustavoMsTrashCan]

I think you are playing with something that Is hard to find these days: Trust. And you can't expect that from random strangers on the Internet, expecting to gain money by playing videogames.

[@MixtapeMong]

So why would you quit your job to play with fake money? Where does the real money come from now then?

[@verticostate]

good talk, thanks

[@EpicSamurai]

Oh my gosh that cat is awesome!!!

[@jean9910]

also competition or wtv you called it isn't that kind of like some sort of monopoly? obviously to make it a monopoly you would need to work with EVERY one in the business but still? nothing against that just a question. I'm interested in your opinion.

[@jordanmiller9097]

people who may be rich dont walk around everywhere in a tie and dress suit...

[@Creamy_Durian]

I find it strange how these videos tend to sidetrack so often....

[@JohanFreds]

No, I'm just giving him tips on how to be a better speaker.

[@SpicyFPV]

So "Co-Opition" sounds awfully a lot like price fixing to me. Working with your competition to improve the market for yourselves and collaborate to all make money. Good for you yes, but normally illegal in a majority of US business. Good thing laws about video games are still in infant status.

[@Coootane]

True, he made his money ripping people off. Then he tries to go legit and doesn't really make any money

[@Jeff55369]

Working with your competition "for the greater good of all of you" is also called a cartel. :P

[@jean9910]

hay I dont watch all your videos il be honest but i like them i just dont have the time xD! but could I ask what you do today if you dont do brokering? id like a bit more info I will be getting a copy of that book to bad its not available on the Kobo store...

[@Smartiezs]

code was redeemed on „Kil'jaeden“ (Vereinigte Staaten).

[@retrospectical]

I have no idea what the code is for. My guess is spectral tiger as I believe that has been the prize before.

[@kemando12]

My dad was into Ultima Online a long time ago when I was a kid, back when we had dial up! lol

[@Larkinchance]

The quest for artificial rarity in real world terms is exactly what drove me out of the game..

[@jean9910]

whats a good place to buy WoW gold? and would I get caught easy buying 10K gold?

[@984079]

how does he get all the codes and what is his job ... he is a realy interesting guy

[@TheHostUnknown]

What would I possibly gain from lying about my age? Also, why would being fourteen disqualify me from being able to trick people into giving me their accounts? Maybe you were a dull child, but I was quite astute back then. Also, the word you meant to use was "were".

[@Fourthirteen82]

Why don't you write a script before you make a video, or practice once or twice before you record.

[@nananina982]

I expected a story on how you quit your job at mcdonkadonk and made millions of dollars by trading in-game items yet what i heard was bullshit

[@GlassDeviant]

And what does that have to do with a) the legibility of a piece of paper held up to a webcam or b) a person with over 1k vidoes who doesn't know how to add annotations? Pot meet kettle.

[@coletrain7124]

What is the code I can't see it clearly?

[@vinx98]

Very unfocused.

[@kimonides12]

uhm well you know if you say that he scammed ripped etc etc to get the money he has its same as saying that buying x product from x country for 1 dollar and selling it in y country for 10 dollars because that is the price there is also scamming/ripping/non legit

[@GlassDeviant]

Holding up a piece of paper with an illegible code to the screen? Seriously?

[@thade842]

Hey Markus! Was wondering if you could give me some financial advice on the new diablo 3 Real Money AH, I dont plan on making a living, but some spare change would be nice lol

[@BigWyatt01]

If you call Botting Honest then by all means keep saying honest work

[@Blackomega95265]

So people now if they should even bother going to the website and inputting the code...

[@ClearlyThePro]

according to certain studies if someone doesn't say anything for a period of time because they are thinking of what to say the viewers get more suspense filled enjoyment out of it... he does need to work on the uh um and eh

[@Comicsluvr]

An entire video to sell a friend's book? Disappointing...

[@PinchySkree]

2 minutes of information compacted into 11.

[@harrygillon1]

Awww love the cat

[@thade842]

Well, I would do that, but I suck at poker, I was just wondering about Diablo lol, but apprec the suggestion

[@kennethm1818]

Did he really just put a wow tcg code that anyone can steal at the beginning of the video?

[@Nijugarami]

Just like pawn shops..make money off of people who need money or have spare money.

[@SenseiAizawa]

code is not readable

[@marcisthabest]

he is indeed

[@steamAwesOmeS]

Was i illigal selling ingame items in Ultima Online?

[@601Hijun106]

If it was just information though would you really watch it? It would be like a robot talking

[@StaK_1980]

Your word. I can't find it in the UD, where is it?

[@Pokemonmeester]

Yes

[@JohanFreds]

Seriously Markeedragon, work on your "script" before you start a video, so you don't have to "uhm, eehm, uhm, uhm, ehm," your way through it, it makes it very tedious and boring to watch when you stutter your way through like that.

[@CopyrightXory]

marcus giving the codes away in your videos is not fair , can't you just okz pick a random person from the video ?

[@cryptsys]

but hey someone doing price fixing doesn't feel a damned bit ashamed about it.

[@milkcartenlmt8939]

DUDe your living my dream! please give me advise.

[@sasdragonologie]

MilkCarten Lmt have ONE objective and work for it, never give up, and be sure that your objective is what you really want. It's how peoples become rich

[@milkcartenlmt8939]

sasdragonologie Thanks for advice. Trust me I've been trying so much things trying to make it big. My recently got banned from RS gold framing only made $50 US. not worth it for the amount of effort I put in. But I'm still trying other things.

[@sasdragonologie]

I think you should use programmation and make some bots. It could be awesome. If i got time one day I will make a bot for Eve, because mining is not very difficult and can be worth the money and it seems to be made for people to use programs "right clic on veldspar, left clic on begin mining, right clic on veldspar, left clic on begin mining, etc. " I don't know if they have put a big anti-bot security

[@PeterbiltEmzie]

+MilkCarten Lmt I know how to do it, shoot me a message and I'll give you some start up advice.

[@milkcartenlmt8939]

Emzie Blankenship Hey bro, looking forward to your advice :D..Feel free to message me. Although keep in mind I'm not interested in "scams" or issuing out payments, just so to make it clear.

[@czcss]

LOL wish I could go "I lost $13,000 one time" and shrug my shoulders and not fucking care then say "It happens." Fuck no it doesn't JUST happen.

[@icervoid]

So, a thing is true ... Comunity.

[@siesonekmk]

Skip this video he does not really talk at all about how he made or how to make money. He just talks about how he was in Wired magazine and how he was one of the first to flip virtual goods for real cash. Pretty useless video, not informative at all.

[@cryptsys]

wait so you say you and your friends where competitors against each other, BUT you worked around each other to get prices out that you all wanted. pretty damned sure thats illegal to work with competitors...

[@Thunderstruck324]

What a cute cat.

[@SuperSaiyanAD]

markee i can barely make out the code on 1080p, im trying to crack it but i cant do it xD

[@BigWyatt01]

How about with hundreds of others ruined the economy of every game he has been involved in