How I Taught Myself Perfect Pitch (True Pitch)

[@Saxologic]

Most people claim they cannot memorize pitch accurately. Their audiation (hearing a note in your head after you’ve heard it externally) may last a couple dozen seconds, then they forget the pitch till they hear it again. This video explains how to get a permanent audiation - where the notes you hear in your head never leave. You can generate it from your subconscious at any point without a reference. So yes... it’s not absolute perfect pitch. We’re out of luck on that one, folks. I made a follow-up video recently called “An Alternative To Perfect Pitch” where I admitted this video is a bit of a clickbait - to lure people without perfect pitch and show them that there is still a way that they don’t need an external reference to identify any note. Sorry for being misleading! I hope this helped out anyway. We don’t need perfect pitch to have strong ears or permanent audiation 😎 !

[@fernandoheighes4507]

You do what you have to! Wouldn’t have found this knowledge without the “clickbait” aspect. I have already improved twofold because of patiently listening to the “vowels” my acoustic guitar speaks ❤️ Thank you again!

[@marvingisset2358]

The way I did it was assigning a song to each note. For example: C with joy to the world, D with the theme from Papers please, and E with Fur Elise. I think this way is probably more effective if you know the song you're assigning by heart.

[@fernandoheighes4507]

Marvin Gisset yes! For me I would always be flat or sharp by a note or two when using that method, but everybody should use the method that works best for them! 🕺 All tips and tricks are tools, I may use both! 🤣

[@Flossboyss]

Yo bro thank you

[@surtaalrecords4659]

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[@chaosource1]

When I was 5 I discovered that our house vacuum cleaner was an F and now I recognize every F. Only the F's. Do I have the shittiest perfect pitch in the world?

[@mcmiilu308]

The F Pitch

[@fullmoonofus2683]

😂

[@daneoates8099]

That's a solid start. From that you can develop relative pitch and get most of the same benefits of perfect pitch

[@oof1291]

Lmao that's me but with the tuning A on the violin

[@alvinwe8396]

F

[@oompaloompa911MC]

Ive tuned my guitar so many times that the sound of the e string is engraved in my brain

[@niclaswerther1569]

Thats actally the levetin (i think thats how its spelled) effect! Maybe look at the video from twelve tone

[@MarsLos10]

Yeah that's tonal memory I can always sing a perfect middle C without a reference But I can't sing or recognize any other note without a reference so that's definitely not perfect pitch

[@Dprest-nd4yc]

I can sing a D because I always remember it from how Miles solo starts on So What

[@ericseuberth]

@@Dprest-nd4yc I do remember the D because of "Sweet Home Alabama". :)

[@ivanokmunoz]

All this examples are relative pitch and tone memory

[@alexandersanchez9138]

Rick Beato is having a heart attack over the title right now.

[@esteventorres4884]

Underrated comment 😂

[@wanderingmonkvinyl]

LOL

[@SilverShadic360]

LMAO facts

[@end-quote]

@@srhodes6963 tbh, the dude always comes off as a jerk, not suprised by what you said.

[@sinisxer470]

@@srhodes6963 Yeah I'm not surprised. He seems cool at times but during his live videos he can say some shitty things to people commenting.

[@8020drummer]

This is 100% possible. Every music student in Taiwan, where my wife grew up, learns to recognize absolute pitch in ear training class. For some reason, in the west, we have this idea that you're "born with it".

[@Johansebastion]

The 80/20 Drummer do you have any lessons or tips for the way the Taiwanese teach it?

[@myongpark]

Most teachers in Asia would hit you with a wooden dowel or a violin bow. It’s in your best interest to remember.

[@gyanpb]

@@myongpark bruhhhh that's so true 😂

[@csmihaly]

My children’s piano teacher just recently showed us - well before the COVID - that she has the perfect pitch. I was impressed. She acted, and I totally believed, that it was a secret talent in one in a million. I will practice this, and after the COVID I’ll shock her. By the way, I have it, too.

[@暧昧-u8e]

I went to school in asia, we would have tests where the teacher plays random notes out loud and make us write down which one it was but that was a guessing game. She would just teach us how to read Staffs and the Do Re Mi bullpoop and then plan surprise quizzes. I still love music though I didn't develope perfect pitch.

[@naveeeeed]

"I won't call it perfect pitch" *Calls it perfect pitch in the title*

[@Saxologic]

:D

[@magmion2783]

Gotta get a little clickbait yaknow

[@Khu6ai6]

😂

[@reubenshiflet]

@@magmion2783 read that as yak now

[@loot6]

Keywords

[@camerondowns3573]

I feel like 95% of people could make a video like this and it would be cringy. This was actually pretty funny and helpful.

[@Saxologic]

Lmao thanks I thought it was pretty cringe but that’s ok

[@bhuvankandel863]

@@Saxologic Actually laughed so hard at 12:20

[@sonic-excess]

This is like the only "perfect pitch" video on youtube thats actually helpful and not just talking about its imposible to learn perfect pitch as an adult.

[@osaze2708]

Dragonaut42 true...

[@Saxologic]

Dang shots fired

[@Cowboybebub]

Lookin at you, Rick

[@JC19021]

The truth isn’t always what you want to hear.

[@MaggaraMarine]

But the people who say "you can't develop perfect pitch as an adult" are correct - this seems different from "real" perfect pitch where you just know the notes intuitively like colors. This is a really good pitch memory, not actual perfect pitch. The issue is in the term "perfect pitch" that means a really specific thing that can't be developed as an adult (as far as I know). But pitch memory is something that can be developed (but I would still say some people learn it more intuitively, for example they can always sing the same song in the same key without thinking about it, whereas to me it's always pretty much random - though I do know the sound of the open low E string on guitar when I hear it, but that's because I know the timbre, and I wouldn't be able to sing that note without a reference, but I know it when I hear it). I mean, usually people who want to develop perfect pitch would want to be able to instinctively recognize notes like colors - that's the skill that people would be after (and they probably ask these questions because they have realized that developing relative pitch takes time and hard work, so they want to know if there's some kind of a "life hack" to ear training). And as far as I know, this can't be developed as an adult. And people usually also tell these people to learn relative pitch instead, because it's a much more useful skill (because in music, it's the relations between the notes that matter, not the absolute pitches). Also, if your pitch memory isn't instant, then there is little use for it in a real life situation where you would have to play a melody by ear - you need relative pitch to be able to do that, unless you have actual perfect pitch (and even then, developing relative pitch would probably be pretty useful, because again, what actually matters in music is the relations between the notes, not that much the absolute pitches). But this video actually made a good argument why a good pitch memory (or "true pitch") would also be helpful - the "practicing your instrument mentally" argument was pretty convincing to me, and it's not a thing I have thought about before. And I guess knowing what key a song is in without having to try it on your instrument first would also be somewhat helpful (though with a good relative pitch, you would be able to figure out the key just by playing a single note).

[@languagehacks3190]

I feel like Bruno Mars and Dwayne Johnsons baby just taught me perfect pitch. Thanks dude! EDIT: Haha so many likes. Check out my music: Rooze - Malibu

[@Saxologic]

LanguageHacks oh my 😂😂😂

[@falgunpatel8764]

I thought the same 😂😂

[@krishank9453]

yeah

[@potassiumchloride2542]

Same taught here lol

[@Kris102]

yep

[@hanquokka9544]

Every note sounds like C to me

[@geovaniraffaelli4508]

The 7 notes of the major scale: c1, c2, c3, c4, c5, c6 and c7

[@jo_nm9484]

If it's the first note played

[@imperfectlydreadful]

Chanchuri same

[@Mottherr]

@@geovaniraffaelli4508 wtf those are just octaves major scale is C D E F G A B C

[@wahucordero8115]

It's a joke because OP said that every note sounds like C to him

[@AshleyWalls]

“Eating dirt and playing super smash brothers,” that hits deep man. That hits deep.

[@fallenBM]

If this dude shaved his head... He would look like Dwayne Johnson

[@jaurellodragon1995]

I was thinkin bruno mars

[@Saxologic]

literally both of u. I get both of those so much....

[@Astrothunder_]

jaurellodragon not shaved

[@cron6435]

i just got u to 420 likes so ur welcome

[@Theohybrid]

2000's Dwayne Johnson.

[@34sillyband]

Me and him: C Shows keys it's a b flat My head is aguring it's a C then I rember I play a b flat clarinet.

[@feelthepunk2717]

Omg😂 SAME !

[@Musicrafter12]

This was my biggest obstacle to me actually learning clarinet as a teenager. I grew up on the violin, which is of course non-transposing. When I tried out clarinet in high school, mostly to learn a wind instrument for the sake of becoming a better orchestrator, I simply could not in any way shut off or recalibrate my perfect pitch, and I basically had to transpose all the sheet music in my head into concert pitch before I could play it.

[@Legalstraw]

I played trumpet in high school said c aswell...

[@MakeNjoy]

I played either tenor saxophone or soprano saxophone for most of my life and also said C.

[@catohung1020]

Same but trumpet

[@thatguymork]

Well son of a _pitch!_

[@thesicilygamers]

underrated.

[@bluejay796]

If my future child does not have perfect pitch, I'm getting a refund.

[@mortenrobinson]

Yeah, kids ought to come with a 6-year warranty! If your child doesn't have perfect pitch before his/her 6th birthday, you should be able to take your child back to the hospital delivery room and swap it for a new one.

[@christinasophiapaterno9022]

Surprisingly, the person who made this comment was Asian! Can you imagine and Asian parent wanting their unborn child to be perfect?? Unheard of! 😘

[@Soup.Theory]

10:45 imagine skipping to this part of the video or being somebody watching this without context.

[@Saxologic]

Adrian Cliteur LMAO

[@kingrat9741]

i've listened to the black parade so many times that i can easily recognize a g note on any instrument

[@FusingSeven479]

OMG I just tried singing that G note and checked on my guitar, and I sang it right!!! Btw MCR:'(

[@freddiestringer2728]

@@FusingSeven479 theyre back

[@astarothgr]

Shit, you're absolutely right! I can hear that G, like a fuckin' BELL in my head! Thanks fam, I didn't know I had that super-power in me all this time!

[@tiffanyizata3717]

king rat same

[@u3gw555]

😂 this is so trueeee

[@batlin]

I always felt like the prevailing wisdom that adults can't learn perfect pitch is lazy thinking. Just because we haven't found a reliable method for everyone doesn't mean we should give up looking. That's why I'm glad to see videos like this.

[@Saxologic]

I agree!

[@johncorson6599]

batlin I agree 100% I still wonder why my ears love notes in certain sequences so much .. saying it is impossible isn’t as accurate as saying we don’t know how .... yet

[@masonharris9166]

@@johncorson6599 The only way it is theoretically possible is if we somehow are able to force our brains to revert to a developmental stage even it only temporarily. Doing so would probably risk brain damage and a bunch of other brain conditions.

[@johncorson6599]

mason harris possibly ... but I’m already brain damaged so not worried about it lol

[@christinasophiapaterno9022]

@@masonharris9166 oh shut up no it doesn’t. Wtf.

[@Theosis78]

You nailed it! And it IS actually a stage of genuine perfect pitch. There are different stages of pitch awareness: 1. Chroma awareness = You´re aware of a fixed, octav independend quality of the pitches, called chroma. 2. Chroma discrimination = You can identify the tones on your own familiar instrument. Here true perfect pitch begins. 3. Refined chroma discrimination = You can tell if a tone on your instrument is too sharp or flat. 4. Universal chroma discrimination = All chromas are clearly perceived through the "disguises" of many different timbres. 5. Spectral discrimination = Refined chroma discrimination across all timbres and sounds. 6. Aural recall = Without actually hearing a tone, you can imagine its chroma and sing it out in the right pitch any time. These progressive levels of chroma awareness are not completely sequential or isolated from each other. "True pitch" is Chroma Discrimination. The vowels you "transcribe" are the chroma!

[@Saxologic]

Theosis78 Wow, I gave a tutorial and I ended up being the one learning. Thanks dude that’s super interesting.

[@spacevspitch4028]

@@Saxologic I have to agree. Considering native perfect pitch is already believed to be strongly linked to linguistic processing (which is mostly just rapidly shifting timbral cues - i.e. vowel sounds!), "true pitch" may simply be a kind of infant form of the same kind of neural processing that leads to perfect pitch development in children. So I don't think true pitch is really that far off from native born absolute pitch.

[@Saxologic]

KIBanshee9 infant form! Cool way to put it. Thanks!

[@williamboshi1855]

that's a cool theory I had never heard

[@FunDaBounceDJ]

This list of stages appears on David L. Burge's perfect pitch course. At least it's on the one I acquired some 25 years ago. What I find amusing is that you have re-discovered what was said on that course on your own, making it even more clear that these are trully universal principles.

[@Mineworks]

Going to try this and report back in a few weeks. I hadn't heard this method. It sounds way more intuitive than the "colour" method I've tried before. I have very good relative pitch from playing trumpet, piano, and being a vocalist but I've never been able to figure out perfect pitch. I think this is gonna work as your few samples, I heard the vowels you were saying and think it's genius. Great work sir.

[@kylezo]

Any update? I just found this and I'm feeling pretty positive about it, sorta makes sense to me in that you're listening to the entire harmonic spectrum of a note (and assigning a synthetic "vowel"/harmonic EQ sound to it on nothing but the merits of it's own harmonic series, which really helps things click.

[@markeymalarkey7614]

How did it go it has almost been a year

[@brynnsoren1291]

It’s been a year how is it going

[@iBakePizza]

Still waiting :O

[@sdjmixom]

Still waiting

[@Ryot_]

Every My Chemical Romance fan has perfect pitch but only for the G note

[@grey9914]

William Tran So true!

[@burpie3258]

Yessss

[@helenaban8380]

Yesss fr because I remember the G note, I can actually guess other notes using relative pitch! So whenever I'm trying to figure out what a note is I just kinda recall the G note in my head and compare the other note to it and like 90% of the time it works lol

[@agh9224]

Can confirm

[@laurenwelker355]

That's how I remember it! 😅

[@justintime2026]

Deaf people: nice try bro

[@_____c___482]

Justin Time Beethoven had perfect pitch and he was deaf

[@ijuice5641]

@@_____c___482 youre giving me depressiom

[@beans6724]

@@_____c___482 he had perfect pitch before he was deaf

[@_____c___482]

Perfection XJ yes but he still knew how the notes sounded while deaf

[@akashsky2010]

Beethoven no approve xD

[@vidbat9045]

Now explain to me how can I do this in my drums.

[@Saxologic]

Lmaooo

[@ideasonek3374]

Tune your drums.

[@joashsantiago6921]

Lol I was thinking the exact same thing 😂

[@roycearmstrong6970]

KA KAH TET TI TI KA BUM BUM TA TA KA KI KA

[@Ultraoof]

Idk just play timpani

[@JYSrx]

I accidentally developed perfect pitch. As a kid, I HATED sight reading (still do, but I was basically musically illiterate at 5 lmao) so I just learned to associate my piano teacher’s fingers with the correct sounds. Later, I didn’t need to visualize my finger or a keyboard in order to recognize a sound.

[@kait6387]

When I was 6 and started playing piano all I played was the C scale over and over and over again... I’ve since memorized C and just count up or down from there. Incredibly useful!

[@dmnddst]

Rick Beato: "Wait, that's illegal!"

[@threepe0]

King Harvick Rick Beato: facepalm, these idiots still don’t understand what perfect pitch is

[@johnvalentine3456]

@@threepe0 Rick's little kid has it and seems also as a bonus to be a frickin' genius, , I think he knows pretty

[@threepe0]

John Valentine yeah I know. That’s exactly what I was saying. I was saying it from Rick’s perspective 😆

[@LunaticTheCat]

@@threepe0 I feel Rick needs to be more open minded about what some people are able to accomplish. Everyone's brain is different.

[@threepe0]

Europa it doesn’t matter what Rick is open minded about here, and it’s irrelevant that people’s brains are different. There is a technical definition of perfect pitch. The poster of the video itself admits that this video doesn’t meet the requirements for perfect pitch. The title is click bait. It doesn’t matter what Rick thinks, and it doesn’t matter what you feel about what Rick thinks. Facts are facts.

[@22mingus]

This is what I did to an extent, but I guess I have really good memory. I memorized a bunch of songs starting notes and relate those notes to what Im hearing so: A to me is the first note of Paganinis 24th Caprice B is Rondo alla Turca by Mozart C is the main melody from Berliozs symphonie fantastique 5th movement D is Canon In D's first note E is either Seven Nation Army or Fur Elise F is the fortnite theme (yes, as a meme), G is welcome to the black parade Bb is The chicken by jaco pastorious Eb is Demons by Imagine Dragons C# is This is How I disappear by MCR G# is Na Na by MCR F# is All Star

[@largedarkrooster6371]

Same, but with different songs/pieces/Normal Violin tuning. A is tuning, B is Nobody Knows the Troubles I've Seen C is tuning D is Hungarian Dance no. 5 and tuning E is tuning F is In the Jungle G is tuning Bb is Caprice no. 23 C# is raising C a semi tone Eb is the second note of Caprice no. 23 F# is Jingle Bells or La Campanella G# is lowering A a semi tone.

[@MudStuffin]

Wow, I notice that when I hear a chord or a note I can relate it to a song, but this is usually only if it is the same instrument. I never thought if using that as a guide for perfect pitch.

[@sargek7]

Yeah, there are many strategies and paths to finally get perfect pitch, it's just auditive memory. Just like in maths, also there are many strategies to calculate a problem in your mind, without a calculator. When you are so used to the same notes everytime, with time you're not going to need that "template" that you made in your mind anymore. The name of the notes just come up instantly. Everything is practice.

[@mystii4842]

D is megalovania

[@Nick-pw9qk]

E is the beginning of just dance by lady gaga

[@bobfrediii2131]

Mi have perfect pitch but it only works for E A D G B E

[@ripsense8064]

゚BobFredIII then it should still be easy for you to hear a c and an f

[@enchantedgamer9428]

@@ripsense8064 Ur forgeting flats and sharps

[@ripsense8064]

EnchantedGamer9 oh yea true

[@ulasonal]

guitarist?

[@ajbayle5959]

Thats called relative pitch

[@flyingformation1878]

You are a very gifted musician. You are looking at the problem from the perspective of making the most of the ability we have and can develop, it is such an inspiring attitude. Thank you so much for posting this video.

[@operatic9537]

Fun fact: the sound in this video is half a semitone sharp. I wasn't sure if it was the piano or the video but the sax confirmed it.

[@mgmg116]

So like... 50 Cent would like this video?

[@christophersanguino7828]

mgmg this is under appreciated thank you so much oh fuck

[@purpledino5048]

Operatic how the fu-

[@operatic9537]

@@purpledino5048 I have perfect pitch. If you have a keyboard next to your PC/laptop you could do it that way too.

[@Iamyomari]

I thought I was bugging out

[@theodorbentzen9013]

I play piano, i taped colored tape on my keys, C (red), D (Blue) and so on. It really helped me, when i heard a note i was thinking of a color, this helped me a lot!

[@Saxologic]

Great idea!

[@lrzhi]

I’m colourblind :( damnit, I’ll try with shades xD

[@theodorbentzen9013]

I taped from middle C, and up to the next C! :)

[@lotsofteabutnonetodrink5843]

LRZ Zhi you could also try numbers or symbols, if that would be easier

[@jordanbrowne7417]

C is green and d is yellow and that's how it should stay

[@ayuu.]

"Your main instrument you play everyday" Me: "I play drums. Everyday." 😹

[@dinkfeatherhead8340]

Same

[@ayuu.]

@Julian Grubb all my drums are definitely tuned. Lol

[@whyskyjoy]

I play drums everyday till i developed true vibration. I can tell a snare from a bass drum

[@ayuu.]

Rian That's the best comment I've read! LOL

[@Frick-bv6xt]

sike

[@MrCaragen]

I got the impression, that the saxophon actually is one of the best instruments to learn true pitch.

[@Saxologic]

I think I agree! Oboe would be very good too, probably even better. Clarinet is great, lots of timbre differences. Flute is good. Etc

[@kingrat9741]

guitar is fucking shit for it lmao

[@sy5763]

What about violin? My violin teacher told me she almost had perfect pitch but had difficulty in low pitches. Because violin was her first instrument and it does not have low pitches. She said her sister started with piano and did not have this problem. This makes me wonder if the little kids who developed perfect pitch before 6 actually got it through this real pitch method too. It’s just that they got it so early and passed the stage of playing instrument in their brain very early, and they were kids they did not rationalize how and whys. So it appears they just got it.

[@dathunderman4]

before it gets better the darkness gets bigger why is guitar bad? Is piano good?

[@akrobeau]

Saxologic yess oboe

[@inxayn]

the amount of character you have makes this video so enjoyable 😭🖤

[@alantremonti1381]

My tinnitus gives me an unshakable reference for the rest of my pitch/tuning...

[@dreugh424]

What note is it?

[@alex_inside]

It can be useful.

[@agmonBeats]

Is this like Dwayne johnson and bruno mars rolled into one?lmao😂

[@asythekid9124]

plus x

[@tsrb8646]

He reminds me of a musical Trevor Noah

[@stxmpay4176]

Tiktok: MIX!

[@SuperRand13]

Dude. I've always though "Surely, if I can recognize a persons voice a week after I first meet them then surely there's a way I can also learn to recognize a note because of its distinct timbre." but i've been to lazy to come up with any method to test this out. So thank you for doing this for me!!

[@projectrk1347]

Is it weird that instead of color I can hear notes as numbers? When I hear notes I can mentally see a number and the note with it.

[@littlefishbigmountain]

That’s interesting! Which numbers do you feel for each note?

[@MarsLos10]

This may be a rare kind of synesthesia :) some people see colors when they hear notes. I see colors when I read numbers or individual letters and that's kind of a memory cheat. I can memorize phone numbers within a second

[@jeremyed9507]

I see dead people

[@frankharmer9352]

I understand this! Not quite to the extent of a specific number, but I hear/see notes as even or odd, and specific chords as even or odd, etc. I thought I was the only one with this kind of experience!

[@fifthdaniel6413]

You have synesthesia man

[@markthekeyman]

You have an excellent understanding of the subject discussed. Thank you for this. I have tuned over 45,000 pianos and this is the first time I heard something I can actually use to improve my sense of pitch. (Not for tuning pianos; pianos aren't tuned by pitch but by comparing dissonances and consonances).

[@Saxologic]

markthekeyman 45,000!! Holy cow

[@ZachariahMBaird]

I kinda figured this out on my own, also on alto saxophone, and at the beginning of the video I was within a half-step of most of the notes he guessed. It's nice to hear it explained.

[@raminmousivand4257]

You just spoke my mind, this is what I'm trying to do and worked. Your example of the baseball player was my exact words pronounced by you. Thanks for your video dude :like:

[@elshabonneveras8769]

@alterdestiny indeed

[@JustinMasayda]

“People who are ‘born’” Yeah, if you really were even born

[@Saxologic]

lmao, yeah those types of people are the worst

[@bryanpasian]

the weird thing is that me and two sisters were raised playing music since like age 3. Both sisters started at a conservatory music school at 5 years old with weekly piano lessons. Not me. i had sporadic lessons outside of school. But...I was the only one who developed perfect pitch ear..... Why?

[@stefaneduard8169]

Genetic shit going on

[@grayd4175]

maybe u got a higher IQ

[@Max-yp1iw]

Gray Dowsett hahahah wtf

[@MontoyaMatrix]

You were able to meditate and take the time to think out of the educational box.

[@bryanpasian]

@@MontoyaMatrix its possible. It was weird when I found out. Just one day at like 13yrs old my piano teacher was like “hold on turn around and guess what notes i play” And after a few rapid succession responses, he was like “oh my god…. You have perfect pitch!!!”

[@aphidnotfound9977]

I have never found a video so helpful and so simple to follow and understand. Thank you so much man. So much respect

[@wetpaperbag1346]

This was an excellent video and you taught me something that I had been doing subconsciously while I played clarinet. In high school band we would do ear training exercises and it was basically this: Note is played Hum the note Think of the fingering for that note Play the note This is effectively what you're doing, you are just doing it all mentally. Even today, seven years later, I still do that in my head to reproduce notes. I haven't played my clarinet in 7 years but I now use that practice to help me place tones on guitar. Very useful skill and anyone who plays an instrument can learn it.

[@eduardogarcia6625]

I have the G from welcome to the black parade engraved in my mind so I just check intervals but it's still a little hard You are awesome fam!

[@buttfarder]

Same

[@ManuelGonzalez-uy1fl]

Dude, your facial expressions throughout the video were killing me! xD Nah, but in all seriousness this actually makes me want to learn perfect pitch, i’ve never thought about giving notes literal vowel sounds and i can hear it all too, i also play alto sax and will begin to incorporate these tips whenever i practice, ty for thy useful tips siar!

[@ManuelGonzalez-uy1fl]

Saxologic ty

[@MontoyaMatrix]

Write down what you hear. (The differences in the colorings of each pitch). And especially start to compare notes that are close to each other. So that you can begin to see the subtle differences..

[@Koakoa45]

Something I never talked about but shocked my husband after 30 years. I was playing on my keyboard and then he put some music on and asked what was the first note and I just hit it on my keyboard. He tested me over and over and finally I told him I can hear and repeat the note. I sing flat lol I may not be able to sing in pitch but I sure can hear if you get even 1 semi tone off.

[@anxylum]

Thank you! You’re actually the first person I’ve heard talk about this. I’ve actually had music teachers argue with me that only each instrument has its own timbre, not each note. Finally. Thank you.❤

[@JohnShaw]

Great video!! Thanks for sharing!

[@Eichro]

Joke's on you, i was over 6 when the first smash came out.

[@emilbirk6144]

I’ve watched this a few times and wanted to try it as my transcribing is poor to say the least. I’ve tried multiple times ear training apps but I can never stick at it and usually I get frustrated because I might do it for a month and my ears seem to have not developed at all. This seems a good way to relate ear training to your instrument. I will update if I manage to get good at this or not

[@raphaelcardoso1194]

I want to bring this discussion to as Engineering point of view: when you talk about a timbre, you're talking about harmonics, or overtones, that are played at the same time. So If you use the tonic (the note you're playing) as reference, you can figure out which overtones are those, in the way of tone color, so True Pitch is literally harmonic Relative Pitch.

[@arikayemusic]

That's amazing! I love seeing the connections between mathematics, physics, and music.

[@theforrester2780]

Naysayers “perfect pitch cannot be acquired” This guy: “I acquired perfect pitch” Naysayers “it is not perfect pitch because you acquired it” Beg the question much? This guy has perfect pitch. Yes some have it better some have it worse. He has it

[@alejandroortiza8685]

I just loved the intro XD how casually you approached the camera

[@vishnusriram]

Super cool discussion dude! Thanks a bunch for this! I play saxophone too, and just by playing I've memorized a a handful of notes, but haven't put in the timbre reps to get them all. Before this, I hadn't really understood what people meant by "true pitch" or perfect pitch on a specific instrument (the audiation part by imagining yourself playing your own instrument). That was the light bulb moment. I did start learning perfect pitch by memorizing beginning notes of tunes I love though! That totally helps get the keys of songs very quickly too once you practice singing the notes of the songs. That's also audiation because you're recalling a tune, but it makes a lot of sense to learn your own sound for you instrument. I'll try it this way too now :D

[@csmihaly]

This was pretty amazing. The most interesting presentation that I ever heard on music. Nobody ever broke this down like this to me, and I’m playing piano, bassoon, guitar, violin. Ukulele? Anyway. This was fabulous. Thank you.

[@LePeppino]

At first, I was held off by the clickbaity title, but you really had some great points here. Well explained. It gave me some confidence for training more!

[@raulgil7389]

Developed whistle pitch early in life because the wind instrument accompanied me everywhere. My mother and my grandmother told me to never loose my head. Good thing it’s attached to my body, thus, whistling will continue until death do us apart. Thxs 4 sharing

[@bloomfilms]

0:53 left a like just for the accuracy

[@spacevspitch4028]

Dammit dude! You just outlined brilliantly how I did it (I have a video of me identifying notes this way). No one has ever described my own experience so well! I took it a step further though and really learned to hear into the harmonics of each note. I play a note and mentally focus my ear on each harmonic from the fundamental up to about the 11th or 12th harmonic. Each pitch sounds like a unique vowel sound. It also creates a kind of shape/texture experience. Each pitch a unique shape/texture. At some point, with years of practice, your experience of these pitch qualities expands to pretty much any timbre and you automatically identify notes, chords, keys regardless of timbre and without having to fish around in your head to find your "true pitch" instrument sounds. You just hear those sound qualities independent of timbre. I use apps on my phone and computer to work on this more. Also...I remember Shawn Thunder Wallace's video on "true pitch" from years ago. I took issue with it back then because at that point I had made a lot of progress with perfect pitch without even being aware of what I was doing. So his "true pitch" concept didn't really sound like my experience. But I realize now that that was going on under the surface the whole time. And since my recognition of pitch had expanded to include other timbres, I didn't see how it related to a single initial timbre. As of late, I've been referring to it as "micro-timbre" - the subtle differences between the pitches within a single instrument. And the way you described the vowel sounds while playing and singing the notes was exactly my experience! Friggin awesome, man! The only thing I want to add is that I really feel that there's more to it than just being a parlor trick. Developing this perception has really changed my entire experience of music over the years. Each pitch has its own unique character and this has a huge effect on the sound of different keys and adds an extra layer of meaning to songs and pieces of music. So it's not just this dry naming-of-pitches thing. There is a whole different dimension to music and has deepened my connection to it in a massive way. Like, a lot of times, the unique sound of a particular key that a piece of music is in is a big part of what I love about it. Like, it just wouldn't be the same in any other key.

[@maunichyr]

KIBanshee9 dude whoa .. friggin awesomeness.. woa

[@sy5763]

Yes. You are absolutely right. I am just a beginner in violin. I ask the silly question like why are many of the best violin pieces in D major. I got the answer that in D major more notes get resonance with open strings so it sounds better. That’s one example of your last point

[@lyndaszabomusic]

Thats incredible! I have been trying to find a source on learning perfect pitch for so long. I knew that it wasnt impossible. Nothings impossible. I read your comment with my jaw dropped lol. I am looking forward to learning this. Just wow

[@rooney1002]

when he played that first note at 1:50 , nocturne op 9 no 2 started playing in my head

[@EvanTateMusic]

Excellent video! I've argued for many years that perfect pitch is learnable. You can train it. For me, it's nothing more than long term memory. During my studies, in solfeggio class, all of the students had to buy a "C" tuning fork, and learn to memorize it. So, this is really the beginning of what you mentioned as "relative pitch". I agree with you that this is actually a more important skill to acquire for a working musician. Back to "perfect pitch", what you descried in your vid is exactly what I did to learn it; first and foremost being acquainted with your own main instrument. I'd love to discuss some training methods.

[@2D2Productions]

thanks for this. I have been working on this for a few months now and it REALLY has helped my ear. I can get to notes faster without thinking about it. They just make themselves available now. like magic! I am very much a beginner but already notice a huge difference in hearing.

[@Dankflamio]

If you can do this with your voice would that be best?

[@TylerDunphy]

Well that requires you to have really good absolute pitch and being able to hear if something is out of tune as well as being a certain pitch in this case

[@Saxologic]

Some people remember pitches from their voice just based off how their throat and vocal chords feel. But timbre wise, I feel like it’d be too difficult. The human voice can change the timbre at anytime just by moving your tongue or throat muscle. You need a constant. Unless you have a syllable system (like fixed do) that you dedicate yourself to training everyday, I think voice wouldn’t work very well.

[@TylerDunphy]

@@Saxologic I agree with this. Plus, it's a lot harder to perfectly tune a vocal note than it is to tune a wind instrument note, and a piano is basically perfect as long as it's either digital or stringed but in tune

[@sadboiwithaguitar2362]

This is the first time I've seen a 15 minute long vine

[@slowedtracks5951]

12:20 nobody: sound-sight synesthetes with perfect pitch:

[@arikayemusic]

yesss we do exist hahaha

[@jasonmingledorff4706]

Lol, I watched this whole thing at 75% speed without realizing it and thought you were totally stoned. Love your videos! Great content.

[@MartinManweiler]

Pause: What you said at around 4:30 was brilliant. When we hear a note; we know what note that is just by hearing it. We can identify that note linguistically just like we can identify colors linguistically by identifying the terminology. There are a lot of colors, and someone who hasn't went to Art school might not be able to accurately portray that color using words, but it still looks the same. It's the same with perfect pitch, we all have perfect hearing- it's just knowing and understanding the language.

[@kentosalazar]

that’s crazy. i have “true pitch” but never thought about why i have it. the vowel thing is so true but never did it consciously

[@fatbeast9367]

10:44 I tried doing this in class. The other kids thought I was mental...

[@ameonna8810]

OH MY GOD I HAVE TRUE PITCH!!! I didn’t understand what it was but you described my situation perfectly!!!!! Thanks!!!

[@ana7icia]

Friendly Yodeller the reason is that they can comment what they want to

[@ana7icia]

Friendly Yodeller and it’s relevant so no complaints

[@alainhalimi3821]

i am following a few sax channels but i grew to really appreciate the unique value of yours!

[@mccplayzmc7113]

in the middle of this video i got an ad for a website that teaches you perfect pitch... youve been outplayed, nathan

[@Royalskunk974]

To recognize a note I have 1 specific music to each note. Example : When I hear a D I immediatly think of "La valse d'Amélie" G# makes me think of the first note of "fantaisie impromptu" Bb its unravel etc... It's all based on a very distingued note of a song.

[@ATP980]

'Bb on unravel' Lol same

[@FioDavid767]

G Game of thrones. That is always my first G

[@chrisfitz7319]

That’s what I do to. E is Tetris theme, F is Axle F, G is Little Fugue, Bb is a Minecraft song, B is an etude I played freshman year, D is Megalovania. I also tend to use arpeggios for stuff like A and C. Working on the black keys rn.

[@rohannabendiola9897]

This helps

[@pe....]

Dude, that's probably the best technique ever...

[@craftyandtherapy2227]

That is why I struggled in Music Theory. We had to sing a scale without a reference. He would say, “Sing a Doran scale”. I always practiced with an electronic piano. So it all sounded the same. I get it now!

[@mkpianofab]

Also, Perfect Pitch is not just a "trick". It is wonderful in composing as your ideas go from you thoughts right to notation. It also enhances the listening experience.

[@craigiefconcert6493]

I doubt you have time to read 2k comments but I will comment anyway ;) I find that the more frequently and consistently that I practice, the more that the sound is in my ear. For example, I’m learning by playing 98% just by ear but my brain fills in knowledge of what notes I’m playing. When I start each session I play a few notes from Paul Desmond playing “tangerine”. I hear the notes in my head first and it is always bang on. During my practicing I move on to playing songs that I’m learning (and I always learn them by lifting). I don’t think about what key or the notes. I think about scale degrees and intervals and I just start playing. I’m consistently in the key of the recording. Those are examples of applications of your technique (true pitch). I have played other instruments for decades but just started playing saxophone this year. True pitch is certainly something that can be developed, and I’m an old dog. Young people have way more elasticity to their brains. I also find that other players’ timbre is useful for recognizing pitch. That first note of Dave Pollock’s solo on this I dig of you is so good, so hip, I can hear it at will. Just one note but for some reason it is unbelievable. The note choice, the timbre, the articulation, everything is just BAM! For example: Paul Desmond tangerine Illinois jacquet boddums up Johnny Ferreira Lucille Dave Pollock this I dig of you Hank Mobley walking the fence Lee Morgan the sidewinder Those are some songs I have lifted the melody or parts of solos and the notes come into my mind easily because the player’s sound is so freaking good. So that is another type of application of “true pitch”. Saxologic’s method has the distinction of using your own timbre and instrument to recognize the notes, and being able to apply it to all notes over the range. I will start this as a daily exercise. I also think you have developed this because you practice a lot a lot a lot a lot. One question is what about matching notes to the range of your instrument? What if the note is too high or too low? (Like for example it is a tenor solo with an Illinois jacquet Bb bomb but you play alto). 500 subscribers-now you are a legend! Thank you my friend!! I just watched a bit about the great Canadian pianist glen Gould. He developed perfect pitch very young through exposure to music and playing. He was certainly a genius and his brain was highly elastic at that age. We may be older with less pliable brains but that human ability is still there to a certain extent.

[@pallavisreetambraparni6995]

I was in chorus in elementary school, junior high school, high school and college. I was also in county level junior and senior honors choruses for 4 years during high school and masterworks chorus during high school. I have also taken voice lessons. But i need to work on developing perfect pitch and this video will help. Thanks so much.

[@Pianistos]

My friend has perfect pitch and this is exactly how he recognizes the notes.

[@mug875]

I’ve played heart and soul so much I’ve literally embedded the c scale into my brain

[@SadisticKillerXx]

1:51, I recognized that note instantly because of Chopin's nocturne :0

[@hanijan480]

I did as well but with the Russian anthem 😂

[@fernwehn5925]

SAME

[@Unity116]

It's so crazy how we can practice in our head when we can't do it in real time, we can almost improve just as much as we normally would by literally THINKING🤯

[@msquaredmusic2820]

Lol I always saw this video being recommended but just decided to watch it.. It's your personality that really sold this idea to me xD Thanks for the great info

[@jamesliamfigueroa]

So let me explain. I play the piano/keyboard for 5 hours everyday in 3 years. So what I did is I studied some music theory and learned a lot of songs. When I play a song, the specific not gets stuck at my head and basically, that is how you get the REFERENCE NOTE and just correlate it to a note you hear. When I knew things about perfect pitch, I kinda assume that I have one because its something cool for an individual to have. Also, I don't have perfect pitch but instead, a really strong relative pitch. I can know a note I hear and know ita pitch. In my hypothesis, colors are like music notes. We learned that ever color differed from one another and so does music. For example, when I hear a D, I am trying to remember a song that is actually like the pitch,( for instance, Megalovania)

[@lil_weasel219]

This is musical memory. And from guessing /knowing the g you can guess the rest

[@synthguy7774]

I'm also a drummer! It's fun. Keep it up! Anywho.... You don't learn perfect pitch, you either retain it or you don't. People who claim that they've learned perfect pitch at a later age simply refined what they already had. It's easy for the untrained musician with perfect pitch to get note names wrong even though they have the right pitch in their mind. It's through this training that you're able to correctly identify those notes in your head; nothing more. I didn't go into musical training until I've turned 12 and I have perfect pitch. I found out in music theory when my professor would tell the class to tune to "C" for solfedge exercises on an out of tune keyboard. I was one of the few to hear people singing in C# major which was very disorienting. My mom use to play all sorts of music from soundtracks, jazz, rock, hip hop, new wave, etc. Your dad playing the guitar had much more of an impact than you would think. Toddlers absorb everything which is why it's a shame adults underestimate them. I also use to do weird crap like arranging rows of Domino's according to pitch to form melodies or fill up cups with water at different amounts to you've guessed it, form different pitches! On the downside, having this "gift" is a kill joy, especially for something as arbitrary as music. I have trouble playing on out of tune pianos. It's unfortunate because I'd like to experiment with different tuning but it would throw me off. Guess I'll just soldier on! I assumed everyone had it due to how mundane this ability really is. For instance, when I hear a forklift at work, I would yell "that's an Eb!" *Crickets and tumbleweeds* The more important thing is relative pitch because music is about the relationship between tones and rhythms.

[@largedarkrooster6371]

I think I may have perfect pitch as I can find exact notes on my instrument or sing them correctly but it's hard for me to remember what the note is called. If maybe I train it more I can perfect it. And just as you say, it is good to have relative pitch because of those reasons. You brought up some great points that I agree with

[@SwimnBird]

Wow I tried this for about 3 mins and I pressed a note and it felt like a Ah or A to me, I verbally said “wow”. Also this is called anchoring in psychology, I guess I’m just surprised that it works so accurately in practical things like pitch. Thanks a bunch

[@chicken5130]

Cant wait till i have a child so every night i can try to give him perfect pitch

[@duartevader2709]

You are not the only one

[@calumgoetz3718]

This is exactly what I can do. I can recall any of the 12 notes but it gets tricky when hearing more than 1 note at a time

[@lloiddd3435]

I have perfect pitch and a really helpful tip to use is to finds songs that start with a particular note/chord. Example, let’s take a d note. Songs that start with D can include hey there delilah or something, Am: senorita , C: Imagine by John Lennon and so on. It’s up to you what songs to choose as long as you can tell what note they start with and once you can do that, you’ll be able to apply it to music or even random sounds and can tell which notes are being played.

[@diablo4660]

Me: *fart* People with perfect pitch: did i heard a C#

[@Rusty-METAL-J]

Great video Mane. Don't call yourself nothing. You are a musician, saxophonist, hornist, and pianist. You have way more of a handle on this absolute pitch than I do.

[@troycharbonneau8643]

Yours is the first video I’ve seen that describes something similar to what I did 30 years ago, when I taught myself around 18. I started with song associations, but with enough playing and practice, I no longer needed the songs which were a crutch that slowed me down. All the other associations came. Like the emotion, sometimes color, and voice of every note. A sounded like a quick “ack!” and G sounded like a boomy rising “broooooom” and C sounded like squeaky descending “beeeeerrom”, regardless of instrument. It made sense why certain songs were written in certain keys. Like C was sunshine innocent happy, and made sense why so many kids songs were in C. Not just because it was all white keys and easy to play. However move a half step up and C# was on the verge of crying. And a half step down and B was just a dull sadness. F was a melancholy happy, F# was angry, G was a more glorious happy. Those are all I remember right now. And no I never drank or smoked or used drugs. Just freedom of mind and time to develop musically. It’s been a long time. For various reasons life happened and I wasn’t able to keep up with the pitch recognition, or even the musical skill. But I miss it and wish I had the opportunity to get it back.

[@dancepants3399]

this dude's so chill

[@troliskimosko]

This isn’t exactly real perfect pitch but its basically the same, just a lot slower

[@ana7icia]

oh alrighty, pretty cool!

[@bikashth8539]

Doesn't matter if its fast or slow. Its about learning the right note. Its not a frickin race my guy.

[@mortenrobinson]

Nothing is perfect... not even perfect pitch. I bet that people who hear perfect pitch can't accurately hear cents... or millitones if we take it even further. There is a limit to how perfect so called perfect pitch is. And so by definition perfect pitch isn't perfect, only by naming convention.

[@jenyi]

this is so interesting! i've never heard this method. i'm a singer and dj and every now and then i hear a household noise and i'll instantly know it's the starting note of a certain song (for example, the other day, my shoe cabinet squeaked and I instantly knew it was the starting note of the record "Hips Don't Lie" - didn't know it was a Db just heard the song in my head). i wonder if your method could work with singing as your instrument? or with certain records that are ingrained in my head from playing them often? cuz i can always find the key to songs I've sung before but usually it's cuz i know the feeling of my vocal cords but not necessarily because I have a reference point of true pitch

[@danielstrong802]

Right on my man! Haven't thought about pitch on the keyboard from a vowel perspective. Even as a keyboardist, I find your videos quite helpful. thank you for the work you do.

[@ferialsouhail]

Dude, you are chilled I really admire your style ❤ I’m happy I came across your video on KZbin, it’s worth listening to!!

[@jkbleach4902]

I also said c :(

[@laurenwelker355]

I always remember C natural by thinking of the beginning of Praeludium 1 by Bach.