An Alternative to Perfect Pitch

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Saxologic

Saxologic

Күн бұрын

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@Datmexican
@Datmexican 5 жыл бұрын
How to get perfect pitch: 1. Get relative pitch 2. Get tinnitus 3. Compare every note you hear to the tinnitus, find the interval, and calculate the pitch.
@shgh2695
@shgh2695 5 жыл бұрын
Datmexican0143 people have tried that and they say that the pitch of the ringing changes
@ElCalvazo
@ElCalvazo 5 жыл бұрын
I have really high pitch tinnitus and can confirm that sadly, this doesn't work.
@MartinManweiler
@MartinManweiler 5 жыл бұрын
😂
@shiloh.patten
@shiloh.patten 5 жыл бұрын
You don't have to have to go deaf if you learn to flex the inner ear beyond the rumble and then you will hear a G#5 in the right ear. Don't act like that isn't common knowledge by now.
@Saxologic
@Saxologic 5 жыл бұрын
Shiloh Patten literally never heard of that lol
@chrisfitz7319
@chrisfitz7319 5 жыл бұрын
I just hear songs in my head that start with the note that is played. For E, Tetris theme, for F, Axle F, for G, Bach’s Little Fugue, for B, an etude I played freshman year, for Bb, a Minecraft song, for D, Megalovania or Song of Storms. The others I use arpeggios.
@joshdarragh492
@joshdarragh492 5 жыл бұрын
Chris Fitz THIS. EXACTLY THIS. I remember each note by a starting note in a song and no one believes me when I tell them. Finally, someone understands.
@wohnjick8833
@wohnjick8833 5 жыл бұрын
Megalovania 😂
@chrisfitz7319
@chrisfitz7319 5 жыл бұрын
Wohn Jick it’s a good one to use because it also has an octave leap for its first interval.
@R0bilicious
@R0bilicious 5 жыл бұрын
That’s what I do
@matsuoka9559
@matsuoka9559 5 жыл бұрын
yes!!! this!!
@neillmoscoso6698
@neillmoscoso6698 5 жыл бұрын
I love you comical-ness, it really makes playing music and wanting to learn more fun. Also that C# or Concert E was probably the only note I could recognize because it sounds so nasally on every sax (even though as sax players we should try and make the C# less nasally and middle D less muffled 😂).
@joshdarragh492
@joshdarragh492 5 жыл бұрын
I’m convinced C# sounds nasally in every woodwind, no matter the player
@kapperkermit1098
@kapperkermit1098 4 жыл бұрын
For middle D you could use the palm key with no octave key and you get D with no muffle-ness same with Db and E.
@rossedge6202
@rossedge6202 5 жыл бұрын
This is actually the first time I’ve never heard of the concept of true pitch before, but I know for certain I’ve only memorized notes based off the timbres of the notes on saxophone. Thank you for answering one of the biggest mysteries I’ve had with music the last few years!
@TooManyEditsProductions
@TooManyEditsProductions 5 жыл бұрын
Recently I've been able to identify C by singing "giant steps in C" in my head, no joke.
@Saxologic
@Saxologic 5 жыл бұрын
Nice dude! That’s how it starts!
@benjaminmarks8765
@benjaminmarks8765 5 жыл бұрын
Yo that worked
@rafaelpernil
@rafaelpernil 5 жыл бұрын
That's quite a nice harmonica solo
@ivanknezovic8451
@ivanknezovic8451 5 жыл бұрын
You crazy hahaha
@ronaldo.araujo
@ronaldo.araujo 5 жыл бұрын
I love this video
@TrustmeimexperienceD
@TrustmeimexperienceD 5 жыл бұрын
you could easily play Owen Wilson in his future biopic
@jordanlewisgoodmusic4502
@jordanlewisgoodmusic4502 5 жыл бұрын
I started developing "perfect pitch" in high school, and was pretty 100% (and quick) by college. The key is to start with one note with which you have a strong association. Perhaps the first note of a song you love or play a lot. The first time I started remembering a pitch was when my high school marching band was repping the first part of our competitive show over and over. The song was "Caravan" and the first note is C. I was telling people "we're starting again back at 🎶C....🎶" and realized I was singing a C, even after a break, and even the next day. For a while I was using C as my reference point and then using relative pitch (knowing what a fifth sounds like, etc) to find the other notes. But soon, I had a song for each note, and each one learned got easier. Like Saxologic, I recognize that some people are born with or develop very early a finely tuned perfect pitch, and we probably can't compete with that. But we can remember pitches and develop associations with them. And pitch is not just some abstract idea - it’s a physical process, from the different ear hair cells in your cochlea that detect different frequencies, to the neural pathways in your brain that physically strengthen when one sensory input frequently triggers another. This is pitch memory. And if you can remember pitches quickly and indefinitely, I struggle to find a definition of “perfect pitch” that doesn’t include you. It’s almost certainly true that this ability is easier to develop at a young age, when the brain is more malleable. And if your brain latches on to pitch early, you can make exponential progress, like those kids who hear cluster chords and instantly hear all the notes. But my friend developed perfect pitch at 25, and mine is still getting better. It’s not too late, and the best time to start learning something new is now.
@Nomatterwhat69
@Nomatterwhat69 4 жыл бұрын
Thx so much for this comment... At least it makes me want to do smth ! I also want to say I really started learning english when I was in the middle of middle school, and now I'm understanding it without thinking (it's like colors lmao). We don't need to be as good as some kids to get useful skills.
@belidairene3579
@belidairene3579 4 жыл бұрын
The question: y r u her?
@bennemann
@bennemann 3 жыл бұрын
I independently found out for myself that what you said is absolutely true. Weeks ago before I read your comment, I did some semi-scientific testing (noting down results on an Excel spreadsheet and all) to see if I could accurately produce the correct pitch of several songs I play on piano, and found out I can reliably whistle an F (starting note from a song I've been practicing a lot recently) and C# (starting note from the Dead by Daylight theme song, which I've played hundreds of hours of). Other songs I will err by a half-step or whole step often, and some songs I fail spectacularly at, but the important thing is that your "theory" is really true! Pitch memory also exists for non-perfect pitch people and can be trained!
@plasmaearth1796
@plasmaearth1796 2 жыл бұрын
I tried to develop perfect pitch when I was 12. I previously only knew what the notes G, C, A, and E sounded like instantly. I've trained so much that I know what each note is instantly. I'm not sure if it's actual perfect pitch or not, but now I'm at the point where I feel like each note has a distinct sound so it's easy to recognize them.
@ethansmithmusic
@ethansmithmusic 5 жыл бұрын
“alright that was just for my thumbnail” **doesnt use that pic in the thumbnail**
@jordansprecher259
@jordansprecher259 5 жыл бұрын
Does this guy just like every comment
@WestphillyRhythmconnection
@WestphillyRhythmconnection 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan Sprecher maybe just paying attention to us and being nice instead of acting like a rock star.
@Double00P
@Double00P 5 жыл бұрын
3:13 a quote to live by... "If Chris Potter doesn't have perfect pitch I think we're all safe... WE ALL HAVE A CHANCE" 😂😂
@chrispotter3190
@chrispotter3190 5 жыл бұрын
Bro you’ve got great content and your videos have such unique, comedic style. I love these videos, and I appreciate the amount of thought and effort you put in to them
@Saxologic
@Saxologic 5 жыл бұрын
Cole Parker Thanks man that made my day!
@chrispotter3190
@chrispotter3190 5 жыл бұрын
Saxologic no problem! You’re a great player man. You look to be about the same age as me but you play better than most people at this level (including myself lol) I know this is a broad question but do you have any tips that you could pass on? Maybe some things that you did that led to your biggest breakthroughs. I know every player has their own strengths and weaknesses, but I’ve been stuck at the same spot for a while and not been able to implement any of what I’m practicing into my playing
@Saxologic
@Saxologic 5 жыл бұрын
Cole Parker I’d say one of the best things you can do is to get another hobby that you really want to master. It will re-teach you what it means to learn and advance. My other hobby is Super Smash Bros. When I am not playing sax and I have no responsibilities due, I play Smash competitively and really try and push myself on it. I transfer so much of what I learn on smash bros to saxophone, and vice versa. Everything is interconnected. All the answers are there; you just have to discover them yourself.
@marcosmcm86
@marcosmcm86 5 жыл бұрын
@@Saxologic kkkkk what a troll
@souldreamer9056
@souldreamer9056 5 жыл бұрын
I once had a lead singer with perfect pitch, but no musical ear. We practiced a song in F#. We later decided to transpose it to F. With the band playing in F, the lead singer still sang the song in F#, and he could not “hear” that it sounded wrong. In his brain he sang correctly because he sang the notes he had learned. For most humans, singing a semitone out of key to the band is an impossible feat. He didn’t know he had perfect pitch, until I discovered it. I hear he sings in musicals now.
@Saxologic
@Saxologic 4 жыл бұрын
Impressive! In that case, perfect pitch is a curse and not a blessing haha
@NormalLunk
@NormalLunk 5 жыл бұрын
After four years of band class I think I have a concert Bb memorized just from tuning it so much.
@martifingers
@martifingers 4 жыл бұрын
Energy, enthusiasm, actually humility, clarity, knowledge and skill. And good humour too. Thanks for this.
@munzutai
@munzutai 5 жыл бұрын
I think this is kind of similar, I memorized concert C by just singing it a lot and remembering how it feels in the throat.
@Musicrafter12
@Musicrafter12 5 жыл бұрын
Even perfect pitch itself is stratified into tiers: Tier 1: can identify single notes instantly. Tier 2: can identify common tonal chords instantly. Tier 3: can identify arbitrary collections of 2-4 notes instantly. Tier 4: can identify basic chords in their harmonic context instantly (i.e. "this is Fr6+") God tier: can identify large stacked polychords and clusters instantly. Poor me is a bit below Tier 2. My composition teacher is on Tier 3. A conductor in an orchestra I once played in was on Tier 4. Rick Beato's kid is on God tier.
@Nomatterwhat69
@Nomatterwhat69 4 жыл бұрын
I'm at tier 0 😂, I have like a debut of perfect pitch for the C note...
@souldreamer9056
@souldreamer9056 4 жыл бұрын
In your examples, only Tier 1 is a product of perfect pitch. For Tiers 2-4 + God, you can work these out with relative pitch, as long as you can identify one single note.
@PickinNgrinin
@PickinNgrinin 5 жыл бұрын
This is so encouraging! It's always tempting to get discouraged when we compare ourselves to other musicians. The cop out is to say to ourselves that they are musical freaks who can make their instrument do whatever they want by virtue of being who they are, and that we just don't have the skill. But the truth is that doing music well takes work. It's like mastering a language. You have to challenge yourself, push yourself to learn new musical vocabulary and to make your playing more colorful. It CAN be done! We just have to be willing to put in the work.
@dylantrochsler516
@dylantrochsler516 5 жыл бұрын
It would’ve been more impressive if you played the banging on the keyboard
@Saxologic
@Saxologic 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@euclidera
@euclidera 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to add to the great advice in this video, for anyone still having trouble remembering the timbre of the instrument: associate the notes with songs you know, specifically the first note of the song. For instance, if I have any trouble remembering the timbre of the G note on the guitar, I'll sing Wet Sand (which opens with a very clear G chord) by the RHCP in my head, and very quickly I'll recall how the G sounds. You can do this with endless songs you know very well.
@devilshark6694
@devilshark6694 3 жыл бұрын
Miles used to say he would have to just touch his trumpet and he'd know what the note was. Then after awhile he didn't need the trumpet to know. I can pretty much do the same thing like you're doing. Your explanation you gave was great.
@RafFail47
@RafFail47 5 жыл бұрын
This is so true! Your instrument basically becomes your musical voice. In Aural Training class, I would use my clarinet fingerings to figure out intervals and stuff like that. And whenever I hear a melody, I have to finger it... so to speak.
@paolopicchi7642
@paolopicchi7642 4 жыл бұрын
I tried to use your method while watching the video and I discovered that I got the right notes (or get very near them)! I was like...WHOA!!! WHEN I GOT THIS POWER!? Now I will practice a lot more on this. I subscribed to your channel like one month ago, it's truly amazing. THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIDEOS!
@compadrejakey799
@compadrejakey799 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, your videos are really informative and funny. I haven't played my sax in about a year and a half but your videos have really inspired me to pick up my horn again so thanks!
@Saxologic
@Saxologic 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that!!
@agemarinho
@agemarinho 4 жыл бұрын
dude. you have the perfect blend between entertaining and valuable content for sax learners. Love it
@RetroPlus
@RetroPlus 5 жыл бұрын
I think I subconsciously developed this sort of technique, I have practiced everyday for more than 2 years now without missing a day and I think that possibly might have helped. I can play any song in its original key and isolate each part of the song. It makes covering songs really easy, shame I never do song covers anymore but it's still a nice skill to have.
@jacobhornak4461
@jacobhornak4461 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that little edit at 11:21 caught me off guard and had me dyin. Awesome video man!
@themusicmega2
@themusicmega2 5 жыл бұрын
bro I've been doing this shit for years but never realized what I was doing. great vid
@DomHawthorn
@DomHawthorn 5 жыл бұрын
10:24 Semi tone off from the hunger games whistle thing
@cyomara89
@cyomara89 5 жыл бұрын
Again, have to tell you: am so grateful for this, and your other vid! So glad i found them. Even though i'm not there yet, because of your confidence, i'm inspired to keep at it till i get true pitch. Cheers, and thanks again, jeff
@kylemorrison6162
@kylemorrison6162 4 жыл бұрын
6:16 wow, I was never able to describe what I was doing before to semiaccurately identify notes, but that's a very clear and simple way to put it. Nice
@lilpiccolo6519
@lilpiccolo6519 5 жыл бұрын
This is so true so many people want perfect pitch, but don’t know their instrument well.
@arturobelano6243
@arturobelano6243 5 жыл бұрын
i just instantly think of giants steps when hearing f sharp
@duality4y
@duality4y 5 жыл бұрын
Why (just curious)
@dylankubilus1422
@dylankubilus1422 5 жыл бұрын
Valentin Wogg I thought I was the only one who did this! Literally giant steps
@antoniopaonelumastro
@antoniopaonelumastro 5 жыл бұрын
Duality Because F# is the first note of the theme (I think this is the reason, for me it works in this way)
@duality4y
@duality4y 5 жыл бұрын
@@antoniopaonelumastro oh yea stupid of me i thought he was talking about imagery
@totallyfake2852
@totallyfake2852 5 жыл бұрын
This is facts... the f# at the beginning of Giant Steps is burned in my head
@meatsupplies5282
@meatsupplies5282 5 жыл бұрын
can u put ur mic closer to ur mouth? i have to turn the volume way up when ur talking and way down when you're playing the piano
@wyndhleodumegwu253
@wyndhleodumegwu253 4 жыл бұрын
This is For Me "adoration at first sight". Excelentissimo!
@RK-yg7ne
@RK-yg7ne 5 жыл бұрын
Ling Ling will always have perfect pitch
@howtobehuman8260
@howtobehuman8260 4 жыл бұрын
But he practiced 40 hours a day
@lucaslazarescu9112
@lucaslazarescu9112 4 жыл бұрын
@@howtobehuman8260 u hav to aswelllll
@thegallery
@thegallery 5 жыл бұрын
Even though I can't do this yet I came up with a game and I seem to be pretty good at it: Remember a favourite song (recording) in your head. Hear the beat, hear the music, and hear the vocals. Think about it carefully, then try to pick out the notes on a piano or other instrument and see if you can get key correct to the original recording? I tried this with a few songs and was amazed that I was either dead on or within a half step over 80% of the time. Even songs I haven't heard in years! A couple songs were so old I'm not sure they were recorded to a standard turning, but even then I was close. It gives me hope that one day I'd be able identify the actual notes or a key of a song just by hearing, or even just thinking, about them.
@gettindizzy8836
@gettindizzy8836 5 жыл бұрын
I’m super excited to try and learn true pitch this summer
@mattsterne9034
@mattsterne9034 5 жыл бұрын
I know this sounds kind of ridiculous but this has had a profound effect on me. I go to a high-achieving high school but I've felt like I don't belong there, that people are more gifted than me. This really helped me rediscover where my confidence came from.
@Saxologic
@Saxologic 5 жыл бұрын
afc quixote you got it brother.
@TurtlesCast
@TurtlesCast 5 жыл бұрын
I've been playing alto sax for 8 years and never realized that I developed this skill!
@craigiefconcert6493
@craigiefconcert6493 4 жыл бұрын
I like your definition of true pitch. I like how fast you’re able to identify the pitch on the saxophone. I find the saxophone is a great instrument for this because the timbres of the notes are so distinctive. I have played bass and guitar for many years and I can hear EGAD pretty easily but also because Christian macbride made a song “EGAD”. On saxophone I really love the songs tangerine by Paul Desmond and the opening track from Illinois Jacquet “boddums up.” I can hear the first note of that album very distinctly and also the right key for tangerine. I have no doubt I can develop this skill too. Thanks for this video!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@MartyMusic777
@MartyMusic777 3 жыл бұрын
I always referred to it as pitch memory. Not quite perfect pitch, but it allows me to start anything I sing without bothering with a reference pitch (to the confusion and actual frustration of many accompanists).
@sequoyahcisneros8719
@sequoyahcisneros8719 5 жыл бұрын
The only person I've seen explain wtf is going on in my mind transcribing while bogged down by random ass ornette coleman stuff. Good job.
@JarodJesus
@JarodJesus 5 жыл бұрын
Dude I saw your Mario Kart video and I don't know why I didn't subscribe but that intro totally made it you're a legend
@rogeralleyne9257
@rogeralleyne9257 3 жыл бұрын
Great video lesson!!!🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@jpupp
@jpupp 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro! I love how you aren't too serious, because music is supposed to be fun, after all. Super helpful and entertaining; you earned yourself a like and a subscriber :)
@Saxologic
@Saxologic 5 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah. Life is too short to be so serious all the time lol
@martyg374
@martyg374 Жыл бұрын
I have added "sax pitch" to my repertoire, able to identify the note by timbre of sax note. Middle D is quite stuffy compared to open C#, for example. I am very accurate with this method on tenor.
@Jae77
@Jae77 5 жыл бұрын
This video perfectly reflects what i can occassionally do on my sax when hearing a note. Love it!
@frankscapsules6855
@frankscapsules6855 5 жыл бұрын
I can see where you are going with your explanation! At first I was like how did you do it and there's no way I can do this.. But the more I think about it, I actually have somehow developed what you called "true pitch" a little. Very informative and thank you for the video! Will venture and meditate on long tones and zoom in in every details that I possibly can. Cheers man
@Saxologic
@Saxologic 5 жыл бұрын
I look forward to your progress!
@gabrielpianolad2462
@gabrielpianolad2462 5 жыл бұрын
I came across your channel very recently and it's like a treasure trove! As a sax player myself, I can definitely relate with what you do a lot more. This true pitch stuff is very interesting but that thing about seeing colours is to do with an extreme form of synesthesia, not perfect pitch ;).
@shiloh.patten
@shiloh.patten 5 жыл бұрын
The timbres become more prominent in scientific pitch tuning. It will expand your awareness just by hearing the tones. You don't have to keep listening and listening over and over. You can get it in 24 hours (collective practice). Less than 2 weeks with 2 hours a day. I on the other hand stayed up all night. Lol
@Saxologic
@Saxologic 5 жыл бұрын
You’re scaring me lol
@DaJackCat
@DaJackCat 5 жыл бұрын
I got a better ear from just transcribing songs. It also helps if you get to know your instrument through lots of dedicated practice either by playing with people or learning songs. Awesome video! Subbed!
@spyrodoom956
@spyrodoom956 5 жыл бұрын
i learned that the lowest comfortable note in my vocal range is a D2 so i sing that then use relative pitch to figure out the notes. Or u could just imagine the black parade opening i used to do that
@tristanhmusic
@tristanhmusic 5 жыл бұрын
Cool stuff, man. I'm really enjoying your informative videos! I have something like this, as well as good relative pitch. There are a few pitches I can play in my head as reference points, but it doesn't always work. It's occasionally off by a half-step. When I tried to figure out what it's called I found that some people call it "incomplete perfect pitch", but I guess it's more like true pitch. I also have a type of synesthesia where I associate pitches with euphonium fingerings which came from years of playing the instrument. Sometimes when I'm sight reading or listening to music, I'll play along by pressing down my fingers. I have "music clips" stored in my memory that I can recall most of the time to use as reference pitches. For concert A, I hear a saxophone tuning to A in two octaves. Bb, I hear the first note in the Star Wars theme. B is a "clip" I acquired when I started learning the chord progression to Giant Steps since it's the first root. C, I hear the first 3 notes in a C minor scale, usually on a tuba. Db, I recall the 3rd part of Dancing Mad from Final Fantasy VI. Eb is my most frequent reference. For Eb, I hear multiple clips such as The Stars and Stripes Forever, Holst's 1st Suite in Eb, and different sections from the 2nd and 5th movements of Mahler 2. F, 1st note of The Star Spangled Banner in Bb. F#, 1st note in Giant Steps. G, 1st mvt of Bach Cello Suite no 1. I currently don't have references for D, E, or Ab.
@spacevspitch4028
@spacevspitch4028 5 жыл бұрын
That's cool that you have a pretty elaborate scheme of reference points from internal musical clips. I have a handful of those but I don't use them as often as I could/should. Heh. I'm always challenging myself to just listen to the pitch and "feel" what it is. My experience has been, with more and more consistent eartraining, you can fill in the "gaps" and really take things to the next level. I have grapheme synesthesia, also some other weird things, like smells have texture, absolute pitches have shape and texture (but not color), and a kind of synesthesia for timbre but since there are so many timbres and instruments involved in music, I'm often left with a sense of, "that was colorful" but I can't always identify the exact color scheme of each timbre. But it has a strong impact on my emotional connection to music. Also, even after many years of dedicated absolute pitch eartraining, I still make half step mistakes from time to time and I also have moments where the whole perception is just "off" and I can't identify a particular pitch to save my life. Yet, more often than not, the identification is effortless and my brain just does it for me. And there's a confidence that, that's DEFINITELY C, or Bb, or whatever. Like, the sensation of the shape/texture of the pitch is so clear, like an old friend.
@Saxologic
@Saxologic 5 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! I think ‘musical clips’ - as you referred it to - is how my true pitch began! After constantly playing with all district bands, my favorite sections of my favorite songs would get stuck in my head. Eventually it evolved into me falling in love with the tone of the classical saxophone, and getting obsessed with each note sounding good, which forced me to focus on the overtones/timbres! Keep it up and thanks for the comment!
@gregdearmond3309
@gregdearmond3309 5 жыл бұрын
Really cool video, I intuitively did this with my trumpet and this told myself what I’m doing or what I was doing, so that’s pretty cool
@yoelhooper-antunez1016
@yoelhooper-antunez1016 5 жыл бұрын
I know exactly what you mean I can never really name notes off the bat but if I have a saxophone I can play notes I hear
@carlpowell0
@carlpowell0 5 жыл бұрын
Never knew this was possible. I thought only perfect pitch and relative were real. This is very impressive. I want to learn to zoom into the timbre of the sound. Thanks so much man youre awesome.
@QuintenRobinson
@QuintenRobinson 5 жыл бұрын
This is awesome, Nathan! I never realized what I had wasn't actually relative pitch. Learning something new every day!
@Saxologic
@Saxologic 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet man, cool to see you here Quinten!!
@NolanWillsMusic
@NolanWillsMusic 2 жыл бұрын
After watching this I’ve noticed that with certain notes I’ve developed a memorization of the note E on a Bb instrumental (my main instrument is bass clarinet in Bb) because of a song I played in concert band where a played the rhythm “Quarter note, triplet, quarter note, quarter note, eighth note, quarter note, eighth note, eighth note” for like 10 measures all low E
@wtmqwq
@wtmqwq 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, now I'm confused every time I hear some melody played on soprano and try to reproduce it on alto. I can tell the pitch but then need to transpose it by a fifth to get the correct note on alto lol
@jreynolds0505
@jreynolds0505 5 жыл бұрын
I can play things by hearing it and so people are like yo you have perfect pitch right?...never have been able to find the word for what I have but true pitch is what I will go by!!
@StefanHoffmann84
@StefanHoffmann84 Жыл бұрын
This makes perfect sense for "mouth-based" instrument, I mean it is similar to singing the same note, which also everyone can do. Would be interesting how this transfers to other instruments like guitar.
@phenyovictorsako4173
@phenyovictorsako4173 4 жыл бұрын
I really agree with you about this
@maximilianschramm8609
@maximilianschramm8609 5 жыл бұрын
My problem is, that i play all Saxophones, from soprano to bass (Bb and Eb), clarinet and bass clarinet (in Bb) too and at last also bass trumpet (in C). xD By the way, in german it's called "Tongedächtnis". The best way to learn that skill is by singing for example in choir, where you have sheet music. Then you connect your singing to certain notes ;D
@shiloh.patten
@shiloh.patten 5 жыл бұрын
The timbres within the timbre train your mind to hear things the way they are in objective reality. Then the next step is to hear how each note sounds consistent with it's objective visual color association. C is in the middle of the rainbow just like green is in the middle of the piano. It sounds and looks neutral. Likewise, playing a violet E and then playing a yellow A# above it will pop out in sound just like yellow does to the eye next to violet.
@Rylee_G
@Rylee_G 5 жыл бұрын
I use the first two notes of here comes the bride to recognize fourths and the first two notes of the star wars theme to recognize fifths
@Rylee_G
@Rylee_G 5 жыл бұрын
When I'm tuning anyway. I use a lot of different tunings
@augustineliu7543
@augustineliu7543 5 жыл бұрын
I just find that I could found out the D3note without any reference note because it was the beginning note of my favourite song... it will not disappear no matter what key I am hearing or playing, when I recall it, it will still here.. it is just like a memory, but store in a way that we Unknow. Sometimes I use this D3 note as a reference note for finding out the key of a song. Lucky I found this video, aso I could further develop this skill.
@ethanl.1699
@ethanl.1699 5 жыл бұрын
Easy, just use Winterwind as a reference piece For those that don’t know, it’s a descending chromatic scale with other tones added under
@jment34
@jment34 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone has a different definition of what ap is. Have you listened to the perfect pitch course by D.L. Burge? It describes the technique you are using in detail.
@anuragdeshpande6918
@anuragdeshpande6918 3 жыл бұрын
4:48 that was a new feeling yet to be discovered
@TimothyGondola
@TimothyGondola 5 жыл бұрын
What if my instrument is the piano? I feel like the piano's tambre is more consistent over the range of pitches, unlike a saxophone. Can I still develop true pitch? Also I'm still not 100% clear on how true pitch differs from relative pitch. In both you are referencing a note you have in your head already?
@crimsonair8890
@crimsonair8890 5 жыл бұрын
Timothy Gondola relative pitch is not referencing a note that is in your head, but the intervals between the notes. Same problem about the piano here, I thought he was my savior for a moment there. RIP us my friend
@Saxologic
@Saxologic 5 жыл бұрын
A piano is possible, but much harder. You’d have to put in extra effort to find the timbre differences between each note, because the piano is pretty uniform!
@crimsonair8890
@crimsonair8890 5 жыл бұрын
@@Saxologic I think you've got a point if it is an acoustic piano, but if it's a digital like what I have I think it's near impossible if not impossible.
@OwenCampbellMoore
@OwenCampbellMoore 3 жыл бұрын
+1 that woodwind in particular have very distinct timbre per note. Can’t speak for brass or strings, but this for sure works waaay better for woodwind than piano players.
@otar_kublashvili
@otar_kublashvili 5 жыл бұрын
I don't even play saxophone or piano, but i actually can do that on my guitar pretty easily. I actually did the exact thing you did for several years. Its pretty cool that you can do that on other instruments. I do still need practise thou. ;)
@cleverclover7
@cleverclover7 3 жыл бұрын
I am lucky to have always had perfect pitch, and have done a lot of transcription, but my kid does not have perfect pitch and always seems down about it, but nonetheless is an incredible musician already at 13 and can sight read Mozart and Debussy, like with all the inflection, and fast - something I could never really do. I always just commit music to memory and use my ear to guide me through the parts. Different people have different gifts.
@grongy6122
@grongy6122 5 жыл бұрын
Why The Rock is telling me about music theory?
@australiancomposer
@australiancomposer 2 жыл бұрын
@10:50 - sounds like the Beatles to me - "I believe in yesterdays"
@xylophone897
@xylophone897 5 жыл бұрын
The memorize the tambor thing doesn't work as well on trombone. Adjacent pitches sound basically the same. I also have absolute pitch though.
@Saxologic
@Saxologic 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wouldn’t recommend it on trombone.
@sebastiantant1304
@sebastiantant1304 5 жыл бұрын
@@Saxologic it doesnt work well with guitar either, rip
@XX-gu6gh
@XX-gu6gh 4 жыл бұрын
@@sebastiantant1304 Perhaps if you get one of those guitars with a wiggly fretboard so that the pitches are accurate?
@sampatsinharoy271
@sampatsinharoy271 4 жыл бұрын
@@sebastiantant1304 works fine for me even though I sometimes get like half step away from the note I'm targeting so I guess I just have to work on it.
@darllacarron9487
@darllacarron9487 5 жыл бұрын
This is so cool man MOAR
@klm5973
@klm5973 5 жыл бұрын
esstentially you play notes on your piano and copy the pitch to my trumpet(instrument) and do that with every note and you wont be sharp or flat?
@Naomi-rf1bl
@Naomi-rf1bl 5 жыл бұрын
your neckstrap is cool
@marselmusic
@marselmusic 5 жыл бұрын
I Remember just listening to the guitar strings and just memorizing it! it was really weird but it worked. I actually didn't believe david lucas burge but when you said you could tell the different tambre I'm starting to wonder. I will defintely watch that video!
@marselmusic
@marselmusic 5 жыл бұрын
oohh the tambre in general! yes! I actually believe people somewhat have a sense of when a song is slow, like when my siblings play some song or we all do an acapella one of us points it out that _"hey, its a bit low"_
@UltimaFunk
@UltimaFunk 3 жыл бұрын
This was EXCELLENT
@user-se6tl5dq3t
@user-se6tl5dq3t 5 жыл бұрын
Keeping making videos, we love youu
@Saxologic
@Saxologic 5 жыл бұрын
Eya Sanchez Thanks!
@ofeliaperez4323
@ofeliaperez4323 5 жыл бұрын
no offense but you sound like McQueen from cars SPEED I AM SPEED TUNE I AM IN TUNE
@eliasgrunig4021
@eliasgrunig4021 3 жыл бұрын
Ok but isnt it still kind of relative pitch accept you are able to identify the pitches in your head and get a reference point?
@elh3323
@elh3323 5 жыл бұрын
This is like learning how to whistle on your instrument
@danieljong144
@danieljong144 5 жыл бұрын
As someone who has perfect pitch, i admit i can see music and hear sheet music,
@australiancomposer
@australiancomposer 3 жыл бұрын
If a person has perfect pitch and doesn't mention they have perfect pitch, do they really have perfect pitch? Lol
@michaelharvey702
@michaelharvey702 3 жыл бұрын
Am I right in saying that the Saxophone has such distinctive timbres for each note that whenever you hear a note played by another instrument, you imagine how that would sound on the saxophone and it reminds you of the saxophone timbres which is a sort of indirect absolute pitch? To develop this ability it seems like someone would have to learn the saxophone to become familiar enough with the timbre of each note before they can name random notes played by another instrument. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
@Rylee_G
@Rylee_G 5 жыл бұрын
4:21 what you always hear coming from at least one practice room at uni
@JaeCole1
@JaeCole1 3 жыл бұрын
I developed the true pitch kinda, by memorizing the notes themselves without the instrument but if I don’t practice it starts fading. Also I have trouble deterring notes that are really high or low.
@shiloh.patten
@shiloh.patten 5 жыл бұрын
Remember the internal reference in your right ear. If you flex your inner ears beyond the rumble, you will hear a G#5 in standard A tuning inside your right ear. This is an internal reference, not an external reference. So, by definition, because we can't do away with the relationships between the notes, like I said, by definition, that is perfect pitch: determining pitch without "external" references.
@Jdman5000
@Jdman5000 5 жыл бұрын
Dude , your wisdom is outstanding - I just sent you some cash as a thank you. Btw- you should create an online course which teaches people how to obtain ‘true pitch’ in a step by step manner and charge for it- I’d be your first customer! That will easily cover the cost of your laptop! Seriously, please think about creating it as there’s massive demand !!!
@Saxologic
@Saxologic 5 жыл бұрын
Damian Muirhead Wow, that’s great to know. I was really thinking about making an app for it - I’m not sure how to make an app though. But I’ll consider that option too! And thank you so much man, I really appreciate your support!!
@Jdman5000
@Jdman5000 5 жыл бұрын
Saxologic no worries your video has literally opened my mind to a whole range of new musical possibilities. In terms of the app, if I were you I’d personally begin with some kind of video course where people can watch videos of you playing etc as well as practise exercises to improve their True Pitch and charge a one off or monthly fee to subscribe. Then once I had enough money from this I’d transfer this knowledge to an app. Apps can be expensive to create so unless you have a lot of spare cash lying around or are or know a programmer you’ll need a strategy to finance the app.
@Saxologic
@Saxologic 5 жыл бұрын
Damian Muirhead Oh, I had no idea they were expensive to make! Okay, so I think that would be possible using pattern. Would you say making a patreon would be a good idea, or should I wait till I get a bigger fanbase first?
@Jdman5000
@Jdman5000 5 жыл бұрын
Saxologic personally I know that the demand for people wanting to learn True Pitch or teach it to their kids will be massive. So I would start by making more content about True Pitch on KZbin. Lots of videos explaining your thought process and going into detail how people can identify the unique characteristics of each note. I would talk about learning True Pitch using a piano or guitar as these are likely to be the most common instruments used. Focus on making content and getting subscribers Then once you have a few more subscribers you can begin marketing your course. Patreon is good to get you with start up costs but I would focus on creating a step by step guide for people which they can pay for. I recently bought a play by ear course of about 30 or so videos I watch- I paid about $200 for the year for it and was happy to do so. Google- “how to create an online course”. You’ll be successful for 2 reasons- 1) you have a clear easy to understand style 2) I searched for ages for something on True Pitch and couldn’t really find anything, yet I know this skill is in high demand.
@mafercalderon4463
@mafercalderon4463 5 жыл бұрын
Oh God, thank you bro💜
@soniaruns
@soniaruns 5 жыл бұрын
Your vibe is just great :)
@kraintorent45
@kraintorent45 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think that using the soflege (do re mi fa so...) would work for the noises?
@guszimbalist8416
@guszimbalist8416 4 жыл бұрын
Yo can I use this on a piano
@shiloh.patten
@shiloh.patten 5 жыл бұрын
6:50 and shortly onward, you play the G# that you hear in your head at the wrong octave. It is a G#5 in standard A tuning equal temperament. Don't lie about this. Share it so everyone may know what I discovered. I'm tired of everyone vaguely talking about what they learned from me and then try to act like they came up with it.
@Saxologic
@Saxologic 5 жыл бұрын
Who even are you LOL
@maco5708
@maco5708 5 жыл бұрын
Just so good...
@9594233768
@9594233768 5 жыл бұрын
Wo thanks .. you helped me to solve my problem .. appreciated thanks a lot .
@sureshhirawat
@sureshhirawat 4 жыл бұрын
Please share what evety note sounds like to you it would be really helpful, im playing on guitar and struggling with voicing a bit, thnx.
@kq1247
@kq1247 3 жыл бұрын
You look sooooooo good!!
@juandalg4907
@juandalg4907 5 жыл бұрын
Every time he turns around it’s like he’s getting robbed lol
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