How I work a hand fired anthracite coal stove.

[@toms641]

I have a Harmon SF 1500 furnace (made in Harrisburg, PA). I burn PA anthracite. Can 't beat that. Thanks for the nice video and sharing some pics of your very nice home.

[@josaljo1]

Thanks for the comment Tom, yes Harmon is the brand with the outside shaker. I could not remember the name. Thanks again.

[@olddawgdreaming5715]

Good information Joe, safety is a must with any wood or coal stove. Got to understand them when using them for sure. Thanks for sharing.

[@josaljo1]

Especially one that is hand fired. But I enjoy having them.

[@Hertog_von_Berkshire]

I was brought up in a 1950s house that had a coal-fired stove with back boiler. All the houses in the estate had the same ... thousands of them. Those beautiful blue flames bring back some good old memories. The stove had a damper at the base of the chimney, a cast-iron lid and a removable ashpit door. The damper had an embossed warning cast into it, something like "WHEN THIS LID IS DOWN DO NOT CLOSE DAMPER AND ASHPIT DOOR". We managed to do so a couple of times. The lid casting glowed red hot and we were lucky not to get a chimney fire.

[@josaljo1]

When I was a kid in grade school i used to help the janitor shovel ashes. No matter the winter it was always warm in the boiler room and the smell of his coffee is a great memory for me.

[@Hertog_von_Berkshire]

@@josaljo1, that's a great memory. Thanks for sharing.

[@Brzcastas]

Try top to down burn - lit wood on top of coal,and when goes to the embers, slide them on one side of the firebox and ad more coal. This way new coal gonna burn sideway,no black smoke out of the chimney. It's very efficient and clean method - fumes and gasses burn to,so less fuel needed to warm the house.

[@josaljo1]

I will have to try that. Thanks

[@lorenzo42p]

I've been using a similar stove for 3 seasons now, but still learning. maybe you can learn something from my comment as I learn from your video. I start a fire with a few small pieces of hard wood, get it burning hot to heat some of the coal. then can slowly add coal to heat the whole stove good and hot, but don't want to smother it or add coal too fast and remove too much heat. I leave the ash door open to get it started, but must keep a very close eye on it cuz it can go from barely a flame to glowing bright hot in only 10 minutes or so. once it's up to temperature, I've learned to leave the chimney damper wide open, I only use it if burning wood. depending how cold it is outside, I can adjust the fresh air vent on the ash door, and it'll keep burning at a steady rate all day or night. once it's going that vent is always more than half closed or the fire will eventually go out of control. on occasion I've even closed that vent completely and it'll stay barely burning all day from just the little bit of air leaks into the stove and from air circulating down the chimney. then when I need it at night I can open that vent and the fire kicks right back up again. it works well for me, although I have damaged the banking plate from excessive heat, from starting the fire then falling asleep before it's ready, not good. it only starts with an invisible crack, then grows and deteriorates the metal until it splits in two. from what I know, can't weld cast iron, so I'm looking for a solution or a replacement plate. I think a contributing factor was a small gap below the banking plate, which let in a slight bit more air, got it hotter in that area, and caused the fracture. one more thing to note, coal likes to be piled deep. get a thick bed of hot coals, rake and shake the ash out once or twice a day, and it'll keep burning hot.

[@dballard8660]

We have a Jotul Oslo 500 wood stove which gives off quality radiant heat. The central HVAC system is geothermal loop electric but there is nothing quite like the feel of radiant wood heat coming from a cast iron stove. I've never had experience with a coal stove, but as a kid way back when I remember my brother and I had to take turns shoveling coal into a hopper for a coal furnace. Great channel.

[@herrprepper2070]

Here in Wyoming, bituminous coal is cheap and plentiful. I don’t like to use it in our Hitzer coal stove for a couple reasons... first, it’s soft and crumbly... it also fuses easily, creating clinkers... last of all, it stinks when burned. I have been bringing in a few tons of Blaschak nut size anthracite every year, but this month, I bought a ton of anthracite nut from our local Tractor Supply for the same price as Blaschak back east. I’m pretty impressed and will use Tractor Supply anthracite from now on.

[@josaljo1]

Yes anthracite is good coal. I have used it my entire life.

[@poolguy101]

I have the same stove except my doors are brass and sliding to the right closes it. I've had great luck with filling the stove 3/4 of the way up on the front side and tapering it up to the top of the fire brick on the back side. Leave the door open on the bottom for about 15 minutes or until you see embers starting to glow through the coal. Shut the door and set it to about that pea size. And in the morning it still doesn't need to be touched. But I just shake it down a bit in the morning and wait until late afternoon before filling it again. Most 30-40 degree days it only gets filled once a day. Great stove. Try that method and see how it works for you.

[@JoshNoss]

If you should buy yourself a good humidity monitor like mini thermopro you'll quickly see that little pot of water does next to nothing to affect the humidity of the house.. I have a modified '76 fisher I heat with, and use a large humidifier that puts out 5 gallons per day and its still not enough to hold above 30% when temps get below 15° outside.. now if you have a newer stove that draws its combustion air from outside the home that'll cut your water requirements considerably because you're no longer exhausting your room air out your chimney and are then keeping more of what humidity you have in the house.

[@johncollado1151]

Morning Joe.... Thanks for the stove follow up. A couple of questions I'd like to ask, and you're probably going to answer them in the next video. First, how long did you have to wait before closing down the stove after you added the coal to the wood embers? And what you'll probably answer in the next video is, how dusty does your house get using wood versus coal or both? When I first moved into my home I had a combination heat pump with electric backup and wood stove and the house used to get pretty dusty over a heating season from removing the coals and cleaning out the ash bin every day. When I purchased my outdoor wood stove and piped hot water to heat ex-changers in the house I almost totally eliminated the dust on everything. I have allergies and it was a major improvement getting the wood stove out of the house. I still use a fireplace (can't have a log cabin without one!!) but I don't have those issues like when I had the wood stove in the cellar. I only have to load up my outdoor wood stove once every 24 hours, sometimes twice a day if we stay below zero temps, and I like that because I'm not always tending it. Other than the Winter season, I only clean out my stove twice, maybe three times a year. During the Winter the coals build up more so I'm cleaning them out every three weeks or so. A lot less maintenance than having a stove in the house and I think, a lot healthier. The only draw back with the outdoor stove is when the power goes out, which is quite often here, I have no heat to the house, hence a generator is a necessity. The water from the stove is pumped into the house by a small 75 watt pump so it doesn't take much to get it there. I'm wondering if coal would be a better heat source in an outdoor wood furnace, maybe tending it less than the wood stove itself. But like you mentioned earlier, we're getting to an age that is making it more difficult to deal with all the work. Looking forward to the next video, thanks.

[@josaljo1]

Morning John, I will be answer in the next video. Pouring here today.

[@johncollado1151]

@@josaljo1 Rain and wet snow mix here so far.

[@phillipjones3342]

We put water on the stove to keep moisture in the air also Jo you guys stay warm and thanks for the info on those coal burning stove’s

[@josaljo1]

You are welcome Phillip thanks for watching.

[@ArchangelArchangel-tq3xo]

Good morning Mr Jo Good information on burning coal and wood. I have a Nashua wood stove up in my mountain home. I’ve had it for 20 plus years and heats up our downstairs of the house beautifully. I burn red oak when I have it , burns nice and hot. I think the company is not in business anymore because I wanted to buy another one. My wife and I will be up staying up there after Christmas for s few months. I love being there as my home is like yours with my closet neighbor being s quarter of mile away. There’s nothing like wood or coal heat. Our downstairs is about 1200 sq ft and I can get the bottom floor up to 75 in a couple hours. Come on down and cut some trees. Lol I have plenty!! Stay warm my friend

[@josaljo1]

Nashua is a pretty good stove, I use to sell them in new homes when coal stoves were "in" back in the 1980s. I bought many of them. I have seen them last 25 to 30 years with just a change in the fire brick. Don't be tempting me, I am considering moving if the sun does not shine soon.

[@ArchangelArchangel-tq3xo]

Josaljo Won Come on down Mr Jo and Sally You are welcome at house anytime !! I own 236 acres that I bought years ago. Only 3 acres are cleared around the house, the rest is all timber. Through the years I have remodeled the whole house. There is not one length of original pipe or electrical wiring. I just rebuilt the whole kitchen AGAIN lol as my wife is a fantastic cook. I built her a 10 ft island with her 6 burner gas stove top and farm sink built into it. The house originally had 1 bathroom built in 1948. I tore that one out and added 2 more bathrooms total of 3 now. Now when my kids come with their families there’s plenty. I have some really big cherry trees that I am going to cut down after the Holidays and mill A couple of the General Contractors who hire me out to trim out their houses are not happy when i disappear with my wife for 3 months. I laugh and tell them at 66 yrs old I get to do what I want. Lol After 40 plus years I still love being a carpenter and love the smell of cut wood. Come on down Jo, the coffee is on and we will go cut some trees. Stay warm up there my friend 😄

[@josaljo1]

@@ArchangelArchangel-tq3xo What a tempting offer, sounds like you have a piece of heaven as well. I know what you mean about doing what you want. I had a guy offer me 3 times my salary to come and run a project for him. NO WAY.

[@variniaspartacus5860]

Are you using anthracite beans or grain? I'm new to the multi burner world and I prefer coal in the colder months and wood in cooler nights. I'm trying to grasp a good idea of what variety to burn. I am in the UK so things are a little different.

[@josaljo1]

I use what is known as pea coal in Pa.

[@steveadams99708]

Excellent tutorial for anyone burning wood or coal! Thank you!

[@josaljo1]

Thanks Steve.

[@cynthiaherr9029]

Thank's for the great info. Mr.Joe, I have propane, for heat and cooking, but it appear's coal last's longer, the snow's coming down now and blowing like crazy, we're expecting up to 6in. and by the look's we'll get it, temp. is 28 as long as it stop's soon..LOL Have a great day and I won't send this mess..

[@josaljo1]

I thought you were going to keep this mess?? Snowing now and it rained hard all day. I came home 3 times to dry out from deer hunting.

[@cynthiaherr9029]

Mr. Joe, I really tried to keep it but the wind was too hard headed and I couldn't stop it..LOL Sorry about that, We have had high wind and mixture of snow/rain all day as well, One of my tree's lost it's top sometime last night, I feel your pain..LOL Hang in there..

[@josaljo1]

@@cynthiaherr9029 Well we got 2" of snow last night which does not affect much. But again no sun in the weather forecast for another 5 days.

[@a.luchesa6823]

Hello, would the blower thermostat read stove temp or room temp? Thanks

[@pavman1000]

very cool!

[@joequillun7790]

Such a big beautiful glass door for viewing, and all chard up. Bet your using wood to fire it off. Try "Matchlight" in the future, and save your glass.

[@colbolt54]

How come i never see any potbelly stoves with any gaskets? Not even the new ones like the vogozane or 1869 railroad potbelly?

[@josaljo1]

There is a brand called Warm Morning that use to have one with gaskets.

[@scopeboy66]

The shells came from the flood. I have found them in places they should not be, also.

[@JanColdwater]

I didn't know you could burn coal and wood at the same time. My father used both but that was in an old, huge furnace in the basement. It was beautiful. I actually used to make fires in the morning cuz when we got up in the morning, it was freezing in our big, old, drafty house. I wouldn't want to get out of bed as a kid, but we built a tolerance. Until this day, I sleep best with little heat. 😆 Can you clean the window with the ash from coal, like you can with wood ash?

[@patriciaharmon1215]

I don't know if you will read this but I am have one of the old pot belly stoves bought it 29 years ago don't know how to tell if it is coal or wood are both you seem to be really knowledgeable was wondering if you could help me

[@josaljo1]

If the grate that the fire sits on can be shook or turned from outside, it is a coal stove. If no way to shake the grate it is wood.

[@patriciaharmon1215]

@@josaljo1 I have another question for you and thank you for your answer is it safe to use the pot belly stove outside if I build a small house around it I wanted to run the heat into my dog house

[@josaljo1]

@@patriciaharmon1215 I believe you could do that but the house for the stove has to be big enough to handle the heat that will come from the stove without catching fire. I would get a little help from an insurance inspector just to be sure things will work.

[@patriciaharmon1215]

@@josaljo1 thank you so very much for that info that really helps me I live in a mobile home so I can't put it in my house but I'm also far out in the country

[@patriciaharmon1215]

Sorry I'm getting tired I meant Far out in the mountains and my stove does have a Shaker so it is coal

[@rickyamsbaugh7397]

I have a question. Do you use a manual and biometric damper

[@josaljo1]

Manual

[@rickyamsbaugh7397]

Thanks

[@boxwoodgreen]

You need to have not one but several Carbon Monoxide detectors if you heat with any method that burns fuel. Yes that includes natural gas. Redundancy is the key. Two on each floor. If you have plug in detectors the second detector on each floor needs to be battery powered with an audible low battery signal. Never enter an area with a high level alarm. Leave the house fast, Then, Call 911. Fire / Rescue will enter with Scott Air Packs. They'd rather fan bad air out, than carry you out.

[@josaljo1]

Good advice. Cannot argue with you.

[@boxwoodgreen]

@@josaljo1 Thanks for the great video. When I get to build my cabin, I'm using coal as my main heating system. It's very safe. If I sounded preach-y it's because I've lived my whole life in a city with three oil refineries. Safety is the first step.

[@josaljo1]

@@boxwoodgreen No problem, Thank you.

[@eliotreader8220]

do you clean the window in the door so you can see how the fire is burning?

[@josaljo1]

Occasionally but you get use to what is happening without seeing it.

[@keving52002]

Nice video , How much coal approximately can you fit into one of those 5 gallon buckets?

[@josaljo1]

A bucket is about 30 lbs. That is around 67 buckets in a ton.

[@jimmyp6443]

What size coal do you use in this stove ? I have exact stove., seems to burn better with stove coal

[@josaljo1]

Pea or nut

[@jimmyp6443]

@@josaljo1 do you think there is any advantage to burn stove coal ? I was told bigger coal ( stove coal ,)burns hotter because of the larger space between coal pieces .thank you

[@falfas55bgas]

Is this the only type of heat in the house? Who will live in the new house you built?

[@josaljo1]

The house is total electric, the coal stove is only for ambiance. Nobody will be living in it. It is a pet project of mine. Just like my vehicles.

[@falfas55bgas]

A house nobody will live in?? that is unusual. You're not going to sell it, or rent it out? Air B&B?

[@josaljo1]

@@falfas55bgas Not unusual at all, this is the 14th house for me.

[@pavman1000]

where can you buy that stove?

[@larrydawson3881]

Thay were built in Florida was told they went out of business years ago because they couldn't get the quality of materials their standards were built to only way to get one is find a decent used one to my knowledge I have to and they work very well are overbuilt compared to anything you would buy new today

[@mikemcfadden3601]

The Bible says if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. We're living in the end times. Jesus will be rapturing his church before the 7 years of Tribulation begins. He will come back after the 7 years. If you miss the rapture don't take the mark of the beast, you can't go to heaven if you take it. It will be on your right hand or your forehead. Wake up folks, God bless you.

[@LordJesusChrist1968]

Amen Amen...1 Corinthians Ch. 15:1-4

[@LordJesusChrist1968]

Romans Ch.10:9

[@1984SheepDog]

A pre tribulation rapture is a completely made up teaching. It never existed before the 1800's. You'll be going through the great tribulation, not escaping it, wake up.

[@mossymaple]

*GOD REBUKED THE PROPHETS MADNESS, WITH A JACK ASS, MAKING IT SPEAK TO THE PROPHET IN THE OLD TEST FOR NOT WARNING HIS FLOCK OF PEOPLE BACK THEN,* *56 Hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky. HOW IS IT THAT YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO INTERPRET THIS PRESENT TIME?* *57“Why don’t you judge for yourselves what is right?* *42The Lord answered, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? 43It will be good for that servant whom the master finds doing so when he returns. *MATHEW 24:19How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now-and never to be equaled again. 22“If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.* *JESUS CLEARLY TELLS US WE WILL BE HERE THROUGH TRIBULATION AS NEVER SEEN SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN OR EVER WILL BE EVER AGAIN. AND HE SAID IF HE DIDN'T SHORTEN THESE DAYS OF FAMINE, DISASTER, ECT. FOR THE ELECT'S SAKE, THAT NO ONE WOULD LIVE THROUGH IT. SO DON'T LET PEOPLE TELL YOU ABOUT A PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE. THAT WILL NOT OCCUR UNTIL RIGHT AFTER THE TRIBULATION IN THOSE DAYS IS CUT SHORT BY CHRIST. THEN THE SUN AND MOON WILL be DARKENED & JESUS COMES GET HID ELECT, JUDGE THE EARTH & BRING DESTRUCTION* *MATHEW 24:44 SO YOU ALSO MUST BE READY, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. *45“WHO THEN IS THE FAITHFUL AND WISE SERVANT, WHOM THE MASTER HAS PUT IN CHARGE OF THE SERVANTS IN HIS HOUSEHOLD TO GIVE THEM THEIR FOOD AT THE PROPER TIME?* 46It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. SO BE PREPPED WITH YOUR FAITH, all these things shalll be added unto you,,,,DON'T BE WITHOUT FOOD STORAGE, WATER, ECT, AND HE SAID, DON'T BE A HYPOCRITICAL AND INSTEAD WATCH & DISCERN THE CURRENT TIMES SO YOU'LL BE SEEING THE SIGNS OF THAT GREAT DAY GETTING CLOSE, SO YOU'LL KNOW WHEN TO AND CAN BE PREPPED AND READY FOR THE LORD.* *AS THE APOSTLE PAUL WROTE, WHAT IS OUR HOPE? WHAT IS OUR JOY, WHAT IS OUR CROWN IN GOD'S KINGDOM SOMEDAY? WHAT HE'S SAYING IS , THAT HE HAS BEEN PERSECUTED VERY SEVERELY, NEAR DEATH, HUNGRY, POOR, WORKING HARD, BEING BEATEN, IMPRISONED, ALL TO GIVE EACH AND EVERYONE OF US THE MESSAGE OF JESUS CHRIST. AND HE CONSIDERS IT A RACE, FOR US TO STRIVE HARD FOR, TO GET TO THE FINISH LINE (WHICH IS ETERNAL LIFE IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD).* *PAUL IS NOT TRYING TO JUST PREACH THE WORD OF GOD & LEAVE ANYONE BEHIND IN THIS RACE, BY RUNNING AHEAD OF THOSE WHO STUMBLE/ FALL/ OR GET HURT/ OR THOSE WHO MAY GIVE UP OR CANT SEEM TO CONTINUE. PAUL IS NOT TRYING TO SEE HIMSELF, SELFISHLY GET TO THE FINISH LINE & LEAVE OTHER'S IN THE DUST BEHIND HIM SO HE CAN GET A CROWN ALL FOR HIMSELF FROM JESUS CHRIST WHEN HE RETURNS AGAIN. NO, NO, NO MY FRIENDS, PAUL CLEARLY TELLS US THAT ALL THE PERSECUTION HE ENDURED, & WHAT HIS HOPE IS , HIS JOY IS, HIS CROWN IS, IN GOD'S KINGDOM, IS TURNING AROUND AND HELPING US FINISH THE RACE.* *1 THESSALONIANS 2:18- 20 *PAUL SAID HIS HOPE AND JOY AND CROWN FROM JESUS WILL BE HIS JOY FROM US RECEIVING ETERNAL LIFE AND FINISHING THE RACE. NOT HIS OWN SELFISH PERSONAL ACHIEVEMENT OF MERELY BEATING US ALL TO THE FINISH LINE AND NOT EVEN WORRIED IF ANYONE ELSE MAKE IT TO THE FILING OR NOT!* I HOPE THIS HELPS SOMEONE SPREAD LOVE AND ENCOURAGING OTHER'S THAT WE ALL SHARE A RESPONSIBILITY IN HELPING OTHERS RECEIVE THE PROMISE GIVEN TO US THROUGH OUR FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST, AMEN!* PAULS CELEBRATION IS IN THE HOPE, JOY, IS ALL OF US. MY FRIENDS, I LOVE U ALL AND PRAY that YOU ALL TURN TO JESUS CHRIST, THE SON OF GOD, AND ASK HIM SINCERE INTO YOUR HEART AND ASK FOR FORGIVENESS OF ALL YOUR SINS, AND BELIEVE IN HIM AND READ & DO THE GOOD TO ONE ANOTHER AS THE BIBLE SAYS. SO YOU'LL BE SAVED. AMEN.* *29“Immediately after the distress of those days “ ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ 30“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.* *CLEARLY HE SAYS THESE THING AND ALSO AFTER THE DISTRESS/TRIBULATION, (and God being pleased, because we are taking care of our households with met in due season ect,), (AND (the tribulation being cut short for the elects sake, so everyone doesn't die),THEN THE SUN SHALL BE DARKENED, & THE MOON SHALL NOT GIVE ITS'S LIGHT, AND THE STARS FROM HEAVEN SHALL FALL FROM THE SKY, AND THE HEAVENLY BODIES WILL BE SHAKEN, THEN GOD WILL COME AS FAST AS LIGHTNING AND GATHER HIS ELECT(TWO WILL BE IN THE FIELD, GRINDING AT THE MILL, AND ONE WILL BE TAKEN AND THE OTHER LEFT BEHIND* *DON'T BE NIAVE TO THE SCRIPTURES MY FRIENDS. OF COURSE NO ONE KNOWS EXACTLY THE DAY OR HOUR, BUT JESUS SAID TO NOT BE HYPOCRITES, but DICERN. *WITH HUMBLENESS IN YOUR HEART TO ACCEPT WE ARE TO HAVE FAITH & WORKS HAND IN HAND FROM THEN ON. The Bible says in James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?* *James 2:17 *Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.* *James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.* *James2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble! MATHEW 24: but the end is not yet. 7“For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8“All THESE ARE THE BEGINNING OF SORROWS. 9“THEN (THEY WILL DELIVER YOU UP to TRIBULATION AND KILL YOU), and (YOU WILL BE HATED BY ALL NATIONS FOR MY NAME SAKE.) 10“And then MANY WILL BE OFFENDED, WILL BETRAY ONE ANOTHER, and WILL HATE ONE ANOTHER. 11“Then MANY FALSE PROPHETS WILL RISE UP AND DECEIVE MANY. *THESE MODERN FALSE PROPHETS DECEIVE THEIR FLOCKS BY MIXING TRUTHS YOU'LL ACCEPT THEIR TEACHINGS, BUT THEN INCLUDE TEACHINGS WITH LIES MIXED IN IT TO DECEIVE BY PREACHING RAPTURE LIES. 13“But HE WHO ENDURES TO THE END SHALL BE SAVED.* 14“And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. 15“Therefore WHEN YOU SEE THE ‘ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (WHOEVER READS, LET HIM UNDERSTAND), 16“then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17“Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. 18“And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. 19“But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20“And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21“For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22“And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be SHORTENED. (IT DOESN'T SAY AVOID TRIBULATION BY RAPTURE), 23“Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24“For false christs and FALSE PROPHETS will rise and show great signs and wonders to DECEIVE, IF POSSIBLE, EVEN THE ELECT. 25“SEE, I HAVE TOLD YOU BEFOREHAND. 26“Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it. 27“For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 29“IMMEDIATELY AFTERNOON HE TRIBULATIONS of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30“Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31“And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER HIS ELECT from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. CHRIST GATHERS HIS ELECT AFTER THE TRIBULATION!