How I Would Fix Ledian in Pokémon HeartGold & SoulSilver

[@themutantspacedancer3891]

Everything about Ledian has always made me so sad, I love it's design and the base concept of being a PUNCHING bug, despite it being barely able to punch at all. It's forever in the pit of "bug types I get sad when I think about how bad they are" alongside Ariados and Beedrill. Thank you for doing my guy good.

[@weisstofall2615]

​@@ausiidndThey did my boy a good one, finally

[@MLPIceberg]

Exactly how I feel too! Especially with Ariados. IRL, I hate bugs of any- and every- kind. But in-game? Ariados looks so cool. Gen 6 did Beedrill good (barely) so not much to say on that lean, mean, stinging machine. That said... Poison Types. ... oh boy. My favorite type yet whenever I see a primary Poison type out there to catch (like Grimer and Ekans), I catch it with hopes to use it only to look up move sets to just sigh in disappointment and box them. Why do they learn so many special based poison type moves? It just doesn't seem fair.

[@stoic_rose]

oh hey i know you!

[@joaquinduverne6259]

​@@ausiidndAerilate is such a no-brainer for Ledian, the more I think about it. Even more so seeing its learn set, lol.

[@DemonMankeyMan]

I think that perhaps Wobbuffet was not the only punching bag design in this generation. Ledian was just slightly more subtle about it

[@riastarthay]

This whole series has been INSPIRED from day one, but this one left me gobsmacked. For one thing, I had NO IDEA power trick could be baton passed, that's the most outrageously creative thing I've ever seen. The shift over time from attacker to support, to account for Ledian's stats falling off but letting her still be helpful, is also amazing. I love that you're doing this series. Every single video has surprised me with your creativity and thoroughness. Thank you so much for these videos!

[@doomyboi]

NGL watching Ledian turn into a plucky trickster superhero over the course of the run was mad hype, when it finally clicked why he wanted a Guillotine user for the chuck fight it had me actually getting out of my seat

[@squish162]

bro said gobsmacked

[@PGJ0908]

It would be cool to see Dewgong get a video. It’s not a bad pokémon, but it’s just hopelessly outclassed by so many other water pokémon. Even in the water/ice world it’s outclassed by guys like Lapras/Cloyster/Walrein and it’s never had a time in the sun. It’s a shame since it’s such a cutie

[@DobriYutyug]

He's my favorite Ice Pokemon

[@MLPIceberg]

I'd like to see a couple Poison Types like Ekans/Arbok. Or Grimer. They have decent-to-good Physical attack, yet they learn mostly special based poison moves? ... why? And the learnset via TM are either meager with Poison types or are near-impossible to grab until late game. Kinda makes them useless for anything else unless you're willing to sacrifice a great deal of time or use them purely as gimmick Pokémon. I'm more casual so I just sigh in disappointment and box them. It just seems/feels like it's intentional. To make you, the player, use whatever Pokémon GameFreak thinks you should be using. Kinda tired of fighting against it and struggling in normal battles with handicapped/weak Pokémon. i.e., ones that I like to use.

[@lionclan4575]

ngl id probably make dewgong either straight up water or straight up ice typing to make it more unique. probably just ice lol.

[@PGJ0908]

@@lionclan4575 I was considering whether or not it could be a water/ice type - He would be a bit like Primarina then which makes sense. If that had been the case when he was introduced then he would at least have had his own niche

[@mathewellin4615]

As the only Water/Ice type with both Encore, Perish Song & Whirlpool, access to Ice Body, Substitute and Protect and a couple of OHKO moves it can be a surprisingly deadly in some rom-hacks. If only it had a bit more speed and bulk...

[@LukeCorreia]

Complete home run on this one. The combination of esoteric Baton Pass knowledge along with the narrative hooks really elevated this from an interesting idea to a captivating hour. Definitely a standout episode of an already impressive series!

[@jamesegg7372]

cool co... mment

[@Seto1997]

Well said!

[@BynineStudio]

you turned a rebalancing video into an anime about the power of teamwork. i'm in awe

[@Alex-mq6qi]

28:46 In Gen 4 and below, Wish passing heals the target Pokemon by half of *their* maximum HP. It's only beginning in Gen 5 that it heals by half of the max HP of the Wish user

[@theflashfan3234]

This video is a Pokémon KZbin Hall of Fame candidate if there ever was one. Improved a dogshit Pokémon without even boosting stats, constructed the entire team around it (all of those being dogshit as well) and did some fun, cathartic storytelling at the same time. Didn't even notice the hour go by. Love the content, bro

[@saigonara7902]

absolutely loving the characterization of both ledian in your moveset redesign philosophy as well as for the other team members in their intros and little storylines. this is my favorite series on youtube right now so please keep it going! i drop anything and everything to watch as soon as each episode releases.

[@IdentifiantE.S]

You’re not the only one !

[@airtempest8945]

What's weird is I think Game Freak likes Ledian too. They literally chose Ledian of all mons to have its own Pokéstars Studio movie where it's the Seraph of the Pokémon takeover.

[@ultimapower6950]

Yeah Future Being Ledian from the 2nd and 3rd installments of that one movie that I don’t remember the name of.

[@pastawater2969]

​@@ultimapower6950 Timegate Traveller I think

[@ImportedCheese]

We're fast so we go first!! ...and then what? 70 more minutes of cutting edge, iron-fist boosted (1.2x!!!) analysis, great video!!

[@ZenModeYT]

Thanks so much Cheese, that means a lot! :)

[@nachtaron]

I've been so invested into the narrative, I rooted so hard for all of them! Please continue with these little stories within your playthroughs!

[@ZenModeYT]

Thanks :) I had fun making them lol. Not sure if I’ll do it EVERY time, because most runs don’t focus on the rest of the team as much as this one. But I’ll give it some thought!

[@That0therG]

@@ZenModeYT oh please do! it made watching the team come together so much better! Can I suggest Pachirisu? It's my favourite electric type and seeing as it became world champion, I'd like to see you buff it in Gen 4

[@gabby5399]

Ledian always reminded me of Kamen Rider ngl. A bug themed superhero known for his crazy front flips, motorcycle riding, and giant flying karate moves. While I think other pokemon like Lokix are far more blatant Kamen rider references I still think it would be cool if Ledian had some similar moves in his learnset. And then electroball could've been a really cool pulseman reference.

[@hi-i-am-atan]

oh ledian is 100% a toku reference, with the dna it shares with pulseman being p. natural given that he's also a toku-inspired character that said, i think it's more sentai than rider, considering its more humanoid face and team-centric movepool. plus those stumpy legs do _not_ look like they could pull off a rider kick, and at that point, can you really call yourself much of a kamen rider pastiche?

[@liberalaco829]

@@hi-i-am-atanwhile i see where you’re coming from, i can’t help but feel like being a bug is a pretty big factor towards ledian being a kamen rider parody. although, it’s definitely taking elements from both series

[@Beavie]

I really like this series. Just trying to imagine how to make some Pokemon better.

[@ShinxBOOM247]

The most interesting thing about it is that Zen refuses to change the base stats of a pokemon for these videos, meaning he has to find other ways to make the pokemon better. Genuinely really cool

[@CoqueiroLendario]

@@ShinxBOOM247 Indeed! He could easily just went for "okay i'll give Ledian a bigger attack stat and now it can use the iron punch ability way better" and be done with it, instead we got a really really good insight on the nice looking sidekick bug poke!

[@leaffinite2001]

I dont really like the phrase "fixing" the pokemon since theres not anything wrong with having some pokemon that suck. Its more of a redesign. But if my biggest issue with a video is so pedantic thats frankly a compliment. Especially since the "fix" at the start kinda makes it obvious he knows as much

[@CoqueiroLendario]

@@leaffinite2001 I do disagree with the fact that there should be pokemons that just suck, because even the most less known pokes have at least one fan of it, i am a big Ledian fan actually so seeing the little guy get some love really was enjoyable to see. Not every pokemon should be competitive viable though, or be able to be strong at every second. But at least every pokemon should be FUN in some way, shape or form.

[@leaffinite2001]

@MrPoke20XX just cuz ppl like a pokemon doesnt mean it shouldnt suck; in fact some ppl like pokemon in part bcuz they suck. But i do think that its clear some pokemon, like ledyba, should be better, or at least different, from their actual design. And yeah, ledyba isnt suck in the way magikarp or butterfree is, which is why its a good candidate for redesign. In a primarily single player monster collecter there should, or maybe even needs, to be some weak monsters.

[@larryhunter6824]

Oh my goodness I knew I was in for a treat seeing how long this vid was going to be, love the new creative intros for each member of the "Star Squad" its so nice to see an unorthodox team being used to take advantage of a mon's supportive qualities (you've done this before but this team is far more unique imo) Just saw the Red fight as well, Starlight's power getting passed around the team to give them a fighting chance using Star's willpower itself was such a poetic and beautiful ending, 100% favorite Zen vid so far

[@obiguanche5512]

I think I figured out Ledian's connection with the stars in this video: She's the wishing star you and the team needed to make your dreams come true

[@SadaniNokos]

It's honestly wild just how good Ledian actually manages to be in XD of all games. Its early availability combined with Psybeam mean it's able to hit for solid enough damage early on, being able to set up Screens is incredible, and its solid enough speed tier and amazing special bulk allow it to do so for most of the game. It's far from one of the best Pokémon in the game for sure, but it manages to have a solid utility role and I'd highly recommend giving it a go next time you play through XD.

[@nateoverthehorizon1176]

Love it in xd!

[@Fredwood3000]

Most players would consider these moves useless, but this video proves that if you combine them the right way, they can reach unprecedented hights. It's so refreshing to see that many underused pokemon get a place in the spotlight. Well done

[@graceholbert2126]

I'm SO glad you respect the boundary of "Not every Pokemon should be able to sweep the Champion". When ROM hacks improve bad Pokemon (and this usually includes Ledian), they make every single Pokemon absolutely busted beyond what is necessary or appropriate. But you seem to think the same way I do! Ledian is an early-game catch; it just needs to be viable for a short while, not game-altering.

[@Following1000]

Ledian peaked as a Pokestar Studio Actor I guess... Dude really made Pokemon into a Suicide Squad movie. Now THAT'S amazing! And that it was actually a stellar team setup was even more phenomenal! I say this every time but you really are incredible at creating interesting Pokemon from their abysmal originals. So another Gen 4 mon, but just an evoloution of a previous mon... I'd guess Magmortar or Electrivire since they never really get talked about much. I'd also say Leafeon and Glaceon, but I don't know if you're counting other Eevee forms when talking about the Gen 4 evo 'saving it'.

[@BCMZeroZero]

My most anticipated fix by far! I'm one of the people that fell for Ledian's design, and I was super let down when I realized how disappointing it is. Great job giving it the tools to be a successful pokemon without just turning it into a super puncher. Also, the personalities and story you created for the team was a lot of fun. Thanks for the great video!

[@Yfighter2]

Ledian’s later game support era was really awesome!

[@historiansayori2089]

Not finished the video yet, but I love the Pokémon profiles for each party member! It’s a neat way to add more personality to each playthrough

[@northsouteastwesk3435]

Radar's back story for the goldenrod rival fight made me smile- this is why I enjoy your videos so much! The little stories alongside fixing certain Pokémon is so creative and fun!

[@Julford]

Absolutely adored this video. The narration and story arcs were a lot of fun, and brought a lot of life to a playthrough that would've otherwise been "set up with Ledian, Baton Pass to teammate that solos the fight". 10/10 video, will watch again. As for your hint on the next mon... Lickilicky, maybe? Feel like of the Gen 4 evolutions it was the most "is a pokemon that exists" entry of them, considering so many others went on to have pretty significant competitive careers. Probopass kinda fits that bill too, but Rock/Steel is incredible for in-game playthroughs so I don't think it would make for as exciting of a video.

[@berserkerciaran]

It's probably not enough, but Lickilicky does get Belly Drum + STAB Explosion, which is supremely funny to me

[@Maconviking]

This is astounding. I thought this was a 10 minute video at first with just some theories, but no it’s an amazing showcase of skill and mechanics.

[@dam777felover8]

They fixed ledian by create orbeetle. It's kinda hilarious that both are ladybug pokemon with alien inspiration with similar stats but orbeetle was blessed by new gen bug

[@xXDarkWolfXx21]

Im not gonna lie watching this with all the interesting narrative ideas and personality you gave to the team made this feel less like a fixing ledian video and more like i was watching a pokemon anime of some sorts. I was genuinely invested in the team and was rooting for each and everyone of them as they each faced their own little challenge in one way or another and i will continue to hold out hope that more of the pokemon you choose to fix in the future get this same treatment. Good video and you just earned yourself a new sub

[@giovannicirne5549]

Claire be like "No way I'm gving that Ledian-Kingler guy a badge"

[@Hydraina]

All of the Team Member Introduction moments were bursting at the freaking SEAMS with personality. words cannot describe how delighted I am. I absolutely LOVE your videos, but those moments alone blew all out other ones out of the water. You truly never cease to amaze me!

[@superzenmodeman]

Surprised Encore wasn’t mentioned. Encore is one of Ledian’s most redeeming qualities, and it’s the fact that it’s egg-move only that holds Ledian back a bit. Notably it works well with the ground immunity (when it does have the flying type) by allowing Ledian to switch in to a Geodude’s ground move without having to worry about getting hit by a rock move afterwards. The Power Trick usage here was my favorute part overall.

[@richarddavis2530]

Absolutely brilliant video. What a great idea to create a whole team around maximising Starlight's support tools and allowing her to show off the new baton pass comboes that you gave her. It absolutely fit with your narrative construction of Ledian as a sidekick at the start of the video and made her useful while keeping fixes within reason. This is one of my absolute favourite series on KZbin. I'm looking forward to whoever you do next, because I'm sure you're going to pick weak, overlooked pokemon who make by far the most interesting subjects for videos like this.

[@corenlavolpe6143]

I find Ledian to be extremely underrated and cute. It's too bad it sucks too much to be used in a playthrough.

[@IdentifiantE.S]

Yeees he’s really cool !

[@Truegear]

Ledian's really more designed after a Kamen Rider to be honest

[@kayoh9364]

Wonderful showcase of all of the things New Ledian can do. Such missed potential that Gamefreak never cared to fix.

[@michaeljbuckley]

Your narrative style is great. As someone who doesn't really play competitive Pokémon it was cool to hear how you would you the speedy baton passing Ledian!! Very creative stuff and to do it with a team of meh Mons too 🤣

[@SuperCosmicSpaceMagnet]

The fun little narrative style for the playtest was really engrossing - lovely video!

[@NicholasTSilveira]

Always had an affinity for Ledian but when I used it in battle I was so underwhelmed I couldn’t find any satisfying use for it. This is proper redemption

[@marshadx144]

I like the idea that the only way to save ledian requires 75 minutes to explain

[@julialumini8861]

Loving the characterization of this whole team! I will follow Starlight to the end of the Earth

[@ZenModeYT]

Yeah right

[@Tydrelin]

Dude I am so enamored by your videos. They're getting better and better with each one, and frankly the very first with chikorita was already awesome. Your content is a breath of fresh air, and you should be very proud of yourself. I hope your channel takes off like a rocket and you continue to have a good time makes these videos. When you have fun making these, we get to have fun with you by watching!

[@giovanninunziato6468]

This series is evolving FAST. Awesome content

[@nerin010]

these narrative sections have me absolutely HOOKED, and while i love all of your videos, the added characterization of the team makes it all the more rewatchable. in other news, i got a bit bored and wrote up some team headcanons. i'll post them in the replies :p

[@nerin010]

» STARLIGHT the ledian ♀️ naive heroine with big dreams. not the strongest fighter, but can hold her own. the emotional glue of the team. has a sweet tooth, favorite food is honey. manga reader. might have a crush on radar. lesbian ledian; bottom text » X the kingler ♂️ specializes in assassinations but LOVES the chance to killstreak. reserved, but gets the job done. enjoys his specialty. walks sideways in every situation except the ones you'd expect him to. number 1 cannibalism hater » PRECIOUS the onix ♀️ experienced mentor who got dragged out of retirement. can & will complain about "kids these days" at any moment. takes some things too seriously, but means well. has a mean sneak attack. makes great sandwiches » RADAR the umbreon ♀️ closed off, enjoys beig alone. runs away from social situations. abandoned by silver (ex-trainer) as a kid. not the biggest team player, but grows into her part of the team. starlight's baton pass partner & best friend (🏳️‍🌈?) » HITMAN the farfetch'd ♀️ confident active heroine. hones in on powerful blows against opponents, but can't do much otherwise. has adhd because i said so. impatient, wants to do as much as she can in a day. regularly hyperfixates on sticks » ZERO the cloister ♀️ selectively mute, but dedicated to her goals. most known hero of the group... mostly due to her family being famous. hates being a damage sponge or supporter. admires starlight's determination. gym bro lol

[@pokemnfan1]

I always love how you don't just make the pokemon more useful, but find creative niches for them.

[@ranchsauce3232]

This is truly one of the best videos I've ever seen, I was skeptical when you said you were gonna use other pokes other than Ledian but my god you did so in such a creative way, seeing the might of the ice shard power tricked cloyster was insane. I feel like you truly understand the spirit of the franchise more than the vast vast majority of KZbinrs, please keep blessing us with your content sire, I really think you've very quickly become my favourite Pokemon youtuber. Thanks for the 10/10 vid Jack

[@silverkyrie4714]

4:19 I think one thing to keep in mind is that, especially before the physical/special split, not every Pokémon has to be running stab. There’s something to be said for Pokémon that focus on wider coverage rather than using any stab, and it adds a lot of diversity that otherwise wouldn’t be there if every Pokémon tried to align it’s offense with it’s type. Gengar is one of the best Pokémon in Gen 3 and it doesn’t really use stab since it’s types are both physical and it’s stats aren’t, but it has plenty of excellent special type moves. You mentioned Ledian’s low attack as negative because its the stat it uses for both it’s stabs, then immediately followed with “not that it matters” because it doesn’t learn stab to gen 4, when I think the point is that yea it doesn’t matter. It’s not designed to use stab in the first place. It’s (theoretically) probably designed to be able to make better use of the elemental punches, given how much punching ties into it’s design (and why it later gets Iron Fist). Those were all special moves pre phys/spec split, so it got a bit more power out of those coverage moves and could fill out some offensive holes you may have on your team early game. That’s probably why the gen it first gets stab is the same gen the split was introduced and it became more standard for every Pokémon to have stab. Now of course, in the case of Ledian, it’s special attack is still also too low for that to actually really matter, and it means using your TMs for those punches on Ledian instead of a better Pokémon, and it still has problems with it’s typing defensively. Obviously Ledian is a badly designed Pokémon, not arguing that at all. But I do think it’s a decent example of the different design philosophies that come into play before the phys/spec split, and how some Pokémon don’t need to be designed with stab in mind. It may be something worth considering in future videos when fixing Pokémon for the first 3 gens (obviously since this one is gen 4 it doesn’t matter anyways)

[@hi-i-am-atan]

the big problem with this sorta philosophy is that it's really more theoretical than something that works out in practice sure, you have the occasional standout that complete succeeds without stab because its base offensive stat and coverage is just that good ... but, like, good stats and coverage _aren't_ actually mutually exclusive with a good stab move, even in early gens. hell, pokemon like rhydon get strong coverage by _having_ stab moves, because rock + ground are just that great of an offensive pairing. mons like starmie, meanwhile, have the solid pair of water and psychic bolstered by access to surf and ... psychic, yet _also_ get complete access to _boltbeam._ and nothing really needs to be said about the strength of normal type privilege in the early gens, considering gen 1 ou says all that needs to be said and stab really is such a huge difference. sure, a thunderbolt from gengar _hurts_ ... a little bit less than one coming from an electric type packing 87 special attack. it's scarier than starmie's thunderbolt, but its ice punch is about equivalent to the star's ice beam and it can't outdo either of its stabs without outright _blowing itself up._ sure, this all doesn't stop gengar from being an amazing pokemon, but that's the thing: gengar is an _amazing pokemon,_ so not getting to leverage stab ( + its stab types ultimately being a bit mediocre anyway ) is just a single mark against its fantastic list of strengths. less pushed pokemon don't exactly get to say the same and like, sure, there's nothing _wrong_ per se with the philosophy of overwhelming specialization vs. adaptive versatility, because it's a very real design ethos. it's just very much not one gamefreak used. sure, there's signs that they flirted with the idea in places ( normal type privilege in and of itself stems from it ), but ultimately system mechanics like the type chart and actual pokemon design make it plainly obvious that they had no real commitment to it. the proliferation of stab moves wasn't something that came about because of the physical-special split; rather, both stem from the same place of gamefreak gaining a better understanding of the systems they created back from the very beginning of the series, and making efforts to better utilize that understanding going forward

[@autumnwolverton4154]

This is my favorite video of yours yet! The storytelling with the quirky personalities and backstories of each team member is something I always love when FlygonHG does it, and you pulled it off perfectly! I was vaguely aware that Baton Pass could be used for things other than stat boosts, but I never would've considered Mind Reader or Power Trick! And Power Trick in particular is such a fun option; focusing purely on defensive stats doesn't usually make for particularly good team members, especially outside of competitive play, but you found a way to completely transform their playstyle! Incredible! It's not really a strategy that anyone can use in the base games, either; Gligar and Meditite can technically learn both Power Trick and Baton Pass, but only with the help of egg moves, except for Meditite in Gen IX where Baton Pass is a TM move. Maybe I'll have to play through Violet again to try the strategy out myself! The first thing I thought of when I saw the video topic was the Ledian Crest in Pokemon Rejuvenation, which takes a very different approach to fixing Ledian's shortcomings. As long as Ledian is holding the Crest, all its punching moves hit four times per turn, effectively quadrupling its damage output with those moves. It's got four arms, after all, so why not punch with all four of them? Moves like the elemental punches can potentially trigger their additional effects on either of the first two hits, so there's a better chance to get a lucky burn or freeze off to turn the tide of battle. And, hilariously, Comet Punch's multi-hit-ness stacks with the Crest, meaning it can potentially hit up to 20 times in a single turn! Rejuvenation's approach here - effectively taking Ledian's abysmal Attack and writing a big "x4" next to it - is probably the "stronger" option, and works better in a game like Rejuvenation, with a much higher difficulty curve than any canon game and all 890 Pokemon from Gens I-VIII available as potential competition. But honestly, your unconventional Baton Pass approach is probably even more fun! Being able to completely alter the playstyle not just of Ledian itself, but its entire team, is just such a phenomenal concept that really gets my teambuilding brain firing on all cylinders! You narrowed it down quite a bit for your next video topic, huh? I'm guessing it's either Dusknoir, who's famous for becoming worse than its own pre-evolution the moment the Eviolite came onto the scene, or Lickilicky, whose stats are just aggressively mediocre even after evolving. And as for requests, I'm still holding out for Lumineon, whose design I love, and who just really, desperately needs a reason to exist gameplay-wise.

[@gloomyfates]

The team bios were so charming, made the gameplay so much fun to watch

[@1krubby]

Fun fact! Ledyba is a top tier Pokémon in the original Pokémon Mystery Dungeon in the final dungeon and true test, Purity Forest. It effortlessly outperforms fully evolved Pokémon and legendaries because comet punch is an amazing move, early bird is really helpful and it levels up fast

[@Dzyntara]

Yet another creative and amazingly put together entry in this series! Well worth the long wait - you made Ledian so flexible!!

[@whalesequence]

That Red fight was extremely creative, this video should be called, the baton pass that could

[@MaxBurnHeart]

Yup, the baton pass power trick is an excellent idea. That gives a very interesting change of game flow in competitive. That could have a niche even in the Uber tier or something like Cresselia. I love that Technician idea. Ledian learns a ton of low-power moves, so even with that pitiful stats, it could do something now. Well, definitely not as much as Heracross, which could be caught relatively early in the game, but I suppose a lot of people who started their adventure wouldn't even know how to get Heracross. Also, good choice of moves. My only complaint about them could be maybe a bit too much focus on technician build. Swarm is not a good ability, but I would still give something, like Bug Buzz a bit earlier. Overall, a very good list of changes. I'm impressed. I like how smooth its transition from offensive to supportive pokemon it went through the game.

[@hardwaylearner]

Ledyba and Castform are AWESOME designs that came out painfully underpowered. My favorite bads

[@LemonAide132]

I have to say, this was my favorite video of yours so far. The supporting cast with their own stories helped keep me invested, and you identified some genuinely great and unexpected strategies that were hype as hell. Wonderful job!

[@laggingdragons]

That intro was brutal! I have always liked ladybugs and Ledian's design, and she was the lynchpin of some gym battles and, most importantly, the fight against Red in my bug-type only run of Pokemon Crystal.

[@Spedy_con_Lag]

in Pokémon Rejuvenation, there is an item called the Ledian Crest, which makes it so ledian's punching moves hit four times at full power, which is pretty fun to use, but unfortunately you get it really late in the game glad you made a video about it though, ledian is a cool mon and I wish it was better, too

[@liamaldrich2476]

Been here since the Chikorita vid was at 5k views, super stoked to see this series taking off as quickly as it has. Poor ledian is so dookie in every game that isnt Eternal X, you sure have a lot of ground to cover to get him even tolerable. Very interested to hear this one out.

[@oirdotcom4838]

Been here since Chikorita, still my favorite series on youtube. Stay inspired my man!

[@3twibles4sweetrevenge]

Like every good character Precious peaked on her main arc and got side lined 😂 love this video so much

[@beebo_omgwow]

This one was really something special. The fact that you made Ledian so useful and unique without even touching its stats is super cool, and I was so invested in the team that I ended up watching the whole playthrough.

[@fsfreturns5242]

Glad to see Ledian in the spotlight. I remember doing a Ledian solo-run of Pokémon Gold & Silver, having Ice Punch and Thunder Punch as the bread and butter. I had to level it up to 100 before fighting Red, but I was surprised that I was able to beat him first try without using in-battle items, only holding a Leftovers for the entirety of the fight.

[@MrPikaPowerz]

This was definitely the best video youve done so far, really outdone yourself, super entertaining and fun

[@jed537]

This is the best take on Ledyba and Ledian ive ever seen

[@thedeagle1007]

There's nothing that makes my day better than seeing a Zen Mode upload

[@lordinfernape4753]

This is probably your best video, u literally made the impossible ou of ledian to make it usable

[@Yfighter2]

Yeah definitely one of my favorite HIWF runs due to how Ledian’s changes affected your ability to make other Pokémon more usable. Baton Pass, Mind Reader, Power Trick… very fun tools to use in a playthrough!

[@whitefox411-gamer7]

The "unsalvageable gen 2 Pokemon" is usually considered to be Sunflora. The only thing Ledian needs is rotating it's stats. Make it's physical attack it's special defense, make it's special attack it's physical attack, and it's special defense it's special attack.

[@hicclesilly]

honestly this might be some of my favourite pokemon content to date, underpowered nigh useless mons getting the attention they deserve, taking into account character rather than blind buffs to stats, is so fun :) i’m very excited for future content from this channel !!

[@canned3880]

Seeing you go through the game design process is so cool

[@RandomFolk]

I can’t thank you enough for showing Ledian the love and care that they deserved! Edit: On a different note, I love how you gave the entire team their own intro cards and stories. I would love to see this in future episodes, but if this doesn’t happen, I’m at least happy that it was in a video about a Pokémon that was redesigned to support other Pokémon!

[@deltaknight2764]

X has to be the best party member hands down. Just the image of someone pointing at you and their pet crab starts BARRELING towards you sideways at mach 2, snipping its pincers with undeniably murderous intent is hilarious.

[@owenK1100]

This is such a genius series

[@paolotrevisanato9028]

Really nice seeing Ledian gets the -starlight- spotlight. Jokes aside, this was a great video, and using ledian to make work of power trick of all things was spectacular

[@Yfighter2]

Love the storyline in Onix vs Steelix!

[@corenlavolpe6143]

13:09 Fire Emblem reference is appreciated ❤ Arthur and Percy are fun characters

[@Yfighter2]

Focus Energy + Comet Punch seems like a neat combo for Ledyba, but yeah Sonic Boom is pretty strong early game.

[@EeveePrincessXD]

I love the extra effort you put into these runs to tell a story, but this one takes the cake with the wacky crack team of offbeat heroes. Truly an beautiful embodiment of Karen's philosophy: "Strong pokemon, weak pokemon, these are but the foolish perceptions of people. Truly great trainers should try to win with their favorites." Your dedication to giving these underdogs a chance to shine is truly impeccable.

[@thiffio9134]

What a fun Pokémon fix video. I love the story of each team member as misfit superheroes. I had a healthy amount of stupid grins. 🤩 This is your best video so far. Also, my best guess on the next fix is a twofer so I have a double chance to be wrong: Lickilicky or Gallade.

[@thevioletbee5879]

While I understand not giving it all the elemental punches, I feel like its Pulseman inspiration justifies Thunder Punch.

[@CoryLivingston-kg5zh]

I love this series. It’s always interesting to see how wildly a Pokémon’s usability can swing with what seem like such minor tweaks. It’s also great that the goal is always to find a reason to use the mon, whatever that niche may be, rather than just always making a powerhouse. Not that the occasional powerhouse (luxray) isn’t fun too. Mind reader-baton pass is just soo satisfying to watch.

[@shawverno.1130]

That entire koga fight was hilarious xD And the imported cheese reference is cute

[@NIMPAK1]

Considering that I requested Ledian before. I'm really happy with the amount of effort you put into this entire video. The little superhero deserved it.

[@spampharos]

Just found your channel today and these videos are great to put on the side while I'm hunting. This one especially was really good as it was amazing seeing how you took all these gimmicky strategies and moves and turned them into viable strategies that make up for your team's weaknesses. As for the next video, I'm guessing it's going to be Murkrow as that's a Pokemon that's pretty much never talked about and did receive a Gen 4 evolution that makes it viable yet outclassed by most other birds. I'll have to wait and see though, so I'm looking forward to the next one!

[@poppleton8727]

Absolutely loved this channel after discovering it through the paras video, the way you make so many mediocre or downright bad Pokémon worth using without even changing their stats is incredible, it feels like actual improvements instead of slapping on some busted stat buffs, or at least make them fun to use, your videos fill a unique niche in the Pokémon community and a really entertaining one, can’t wait for the next video!

[@ralonnetaph6450]

you didn't have to do Tropius fans like that at 9:27 man, we try really hard to enjoy our bananas

[@kelly_times]

Hey, at least you're not a Wormadam fan who got told flat out that it doesn't even look good lol

[@TanTanTanski]

Love this series, glad you’re still posting!

[@aaronkriever1361]

I know this is Ledian's video, but I was on the edge of my seat watching the Precious vs. Steelix fight. I loved the narrative direction and was rooting for her so much. I almost cried when she won. Precious vs. Steelix is now a canon event

[@supremeoverlordfallen5]

I really love this only series of your channel. You gave it at least right amount of tools so that Ledian can work. You really proved it was worth a wait.

[@Pacca64]

I had no idea ledian was a special attacker. Look at those fists! Look at it's early game punch moves! You probably could've convinced me it was a fighting type physical attacker if I didn't know better X3

[@JacobMoitt]

This was really good! Absolutely loved the character intros and I have to say the quality of the edits are very nice. You're super funny too I always look forwards to you next videos!

[@Xenojameser]

Crawdaunt is such an underutilized pokemon he deserves love

[@reginaldmeta2762]

You know, I love this series. It's made me realize just how badly neglected Pokemon's singleplayer experience has become. Instead of Pokemon being designed around early game, midgame and lategame effectiveness (as with the Bug types you mentioned in the earlier generations), they're designed around specific sets and niches for the competitive side, and as a result most Pokemon in the later games become easily capable of steamrolling it with a little bit of prior knowledge and itemization. I know there's the argument of "oh it's a kids game" but there really is some serious power creep in the recent gens, and I do wish the complexity of the strategies used in the gyms could level up along with the immense diversity in available Pokemon and items (eg. Iono's levitating Mismagius turning into an electric-type was really cool, I wish we saw more of that type of thing).

[@Amurwolf]

I usually am a silent viewer on KZbin but i had to write a comment here. I already really liked your channel, especially your philosophy of sticking to the core design of a mon while fixing it. It just shows that these Pokemon could have been fixed in the canonical games as well while the idea of the Pokemon stays roughly the same. But I really enjoyed this new storytelling even more, with you giving each team member a little back story to show the idea that it is the team that is important for Ledian as it is the helper that lets its buddies shine. I just wanted to thank you for over an hour of entertainment in this video alone. I am not an active Pokemon player, after playing a few other monster tamers, the whole randomness just doesnt catch me at the moment but I still enjoy well done content about Pokemon just like your channel because it was the first game i was ever obsessed with and for that it will always have a place in my heart, especially the first 3 generations.

[@tictacctical3030]

New zen mode video, woohoo! Can you do carnivine next?

[@agvangavatar5450]

I really like the story telling. Great video!

[@Disguised_Cat]

I like what Unbound did where they just gave him huge power and said "yeah, that's enough" no new moves or shit. Huge power ledian goes from 35 attack to 70 attack, still terrible but at least he's somewhat usable, my beloved

[@ultimapower6950]

Wdym no new moves it learns victory dance. But yeah Huge Power Ledian is a pretty powerful mon in the midgame of unbound especially if you delay it’s evolution from ledyba until level 40 when it’s gets victory dance at the exact level cap of marlon thundercap. In fact I even used it back in my mono-flying playthrough of unbound insane mode where with a moveset of Acrobatics, Knock Off, Ice Punch and Victory Dance, a held Flying gem to OHKO Dusclops with a +3 acrobatics as well some help from Normal Gem Swellow to scare off Zapdos with the threat of STAB Boomburst and cause marlon to switch in Agieslash and Help Ledian Get in for free to setup by switching it in on the same turn it was able to sweep his entire team.

[@Disguised_Cat]

Yeah but that's it, he doesn't get like first impression or random bs, it gets its normal moves. They made him usable but not broken, you would still rather have a Scizor

[@ultimapower6950]

@@Disguised_Cat you can’t get scyther until the postgame. But yeah even with the buffs it’s still outclassed by other options such as Archeops, Gliscor, Salamence and especially Gyrados.

[@galvsparks6295]

Huge power doesn't work that way, it boosts the stat after EVs IVs and nature, depending on those factors, Ledian's attack stat with huge power is between 75 (0IV, EV, bad nature) and 120 (31 IVs, 252 EV, good nature). Let's say that for an average ledian for an in game playthrough (15 IVs, 100 EVs, neutral nature) it's base attack will basically be 95 which is pretty solid actually, but its still lacking in good stab moves though

[@Disguised_Cat]

Yeah, I know So it's still very balanced.

[@Allen-qs2xr]

"A Pokemon even more useless than Onix" No way *peeks at next video* "Oh."

[@yomiel4]

hell yeah one of my favorite bugs finally gets the respect it deserves!!!

[@pokefabri]

I love that you don't change the Pokemon's stats to show that just a lil design can make them way better

[@elijahkonrad5130]

I like the bug/fighting type for Ledian but I also think it could be a good fit for a Normal/Bug type too, and it would give it STAB on comet punch and even Return

[@haidynwendlandt2479]

Personally I agree with Ledian to be Bug Fighting a bit more over Bug Normal as it’s based on Super Sentai and other tokusatsu heroes. Bug and Fighting type since Gen 1 have both been inspired by the genre

[@VCV95]

Aerialate would be a really neat ability for ledian imo. Gives it the option to almost have flying stab, and increases it's power offensively while leaving it's current bug/fighting defense alone