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@micahowenaby72524 жыл бұрын
I was just about to ask you if you'd do Mr. Robot, but it seems like you're already on it lol.
@onesuperiorman4 жыл бұрын
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@G-04 жыл бұрын
Also going to say it now, I absolutely love this KZbin channel. Got sick of video essays interpreting rather than hearing the creators speak for themselves. Having their own words compiled into these short, concise videos has helped me understand filmmaking tremendously. Thank you so much Behind the Curtain!
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
Dude, this is the best type of comment. I love to hear that my videos have helped you a lot. I'm building some exciting stuff right now and I hope that people like you will continue to enjoy it.
@LuisSierra424 жыл бұрын
@@BehindtheCurtain This is amazing work sir, i really enjoy your videos
@guillaumemartel49993 жыл бұрын
@@BehindtheCurtain dont ever stop ! 🔥
@Gtex5553 жыл бұрын
@@guillaumemartel4999 he stopped loo
@brownieboi1691 Жыл бұрын
Understandable, but the Auteur Theory says that both interpretations are purposeful! The author of the work and the audience members that view it! :)
@aarond95634 жыл бұрын
"Narrative is a means to an end" - COMPLETELY AGREE!
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jla3694 жыл бұрын
This movie changed my life. Damien Chazelle is a genius and a young legend.
@eobard13284 жыл бұрын
How so ?
@jla3694 жыл бұрын
@GFrank As a former law student turned film student who was inspired to pursue the arts by this film, I can say that I understand your feelings and views towards Whiplash given your own passions and musical background, but also that I believe it serves more purposes than to just chronicle the experience of a musician for the sake of music. Ever since I first watched it and researched about it, I've seen the criticism aimed at Chazelle for how he depicted the various aspects of music here, but we have to understand that there are creative choices that need to be made for the sake of the narrative and cinematic experience. Damien Chazelle is a filmmaker with a passion for jazz music, but a filmmaker nonetheless. He translated the story he wanted to tell about a musician onto the big screen in a way that he felt best captured both the cinematic and musical aspects that he wanted to portray. The film is made to be intense, gripping, artistic, and to have a payoff by its end that is built around scenes that show a musician hard at work to achieve his goals, its a film about both passion and music. As much as it's more grounded in realism than say an Avengers film, it's still a film - and that entails bending reality to get a message through to an audience that isn't composed entirely of musicians and to make them interested in this musician's story. It's an inspiring film, at least I found it inspiring. I'm sure Chazelle doesn't have the experience or know-how that you may have, but he did put your craft at the forefront of his own, and that shows a level of respect for music and musicians that I rarely see in film. And speaking as someone with no background or experience in music, I can say that my respect for musicians skyrocketed after watching this film. That's just the way I see it, mean no disrespect.
@thunderfister75364 жыл бұрын
@GFrank bro who are you to tell people you dont know what to do lmao?
@PWS8594 жыл бұрын
@GFrank hey bro, you have 30 years of music experience and a degree from berklee and you're still here commenting on a KZbin video (about a movie you don't even like) like the rest of us.. So hey, maybe music just isn't for you.
@PWS8594 жыл бұрын
@GFrank perhaps opinions of films aren't for you either, considering you've based your entire opinion on someone else's video.
@johnornelas4 жыл бұрын
love the expansion on the idea of movies being too narrative focused. It's not hard to find reviews of whiplash that totally miss the point of the movie, talking instead about elements of jazz missing from the film. the movie is not about jazz, or music. It's about a person trying to be the best version of themselves. It could have been about flyfishing, or baking, or playing street fighter. It's not a movie ABOUT jazz, jazz is just a vehicle for the rest of the character drama.
@atlasshrugd4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS!! Completely agree holy shit
@elevencyan2 жыл бұрын
Wait, if you say people complain about the jazz when it's just a vehicle for the narrative then people aren't driven to focus on the narrative.
@johnornelas2 жыл бұрын
@@elevencyan i said the jazz narrative is a vehicle for the character drama, which is more interesting (imo)
@dennylibertario22462 жыл бұрын
John, I completely agree with you. However, it seems like the entire cyber-world has it in for this movie on grounds ranging from why did the director make Fletcher such an interesting, complex and arguably hilarious tyrant, in reality, a sociopath that would be tarred and feathered if applying that teaching style in today's snowflake/woke culture/environment? Other criticisms have been on the deviations from musical conventions, phony music terminology, false and unclear plot twists, etc. But, this is the ultimate canard. The criticism is that Whiplash was about jazz and the music in the film is not "jazz". Such holier than thou observations ironically lack a clear understanding of musical genres. Whiplash focused on big band sound, big band standards, and not about jazz, other than in holding out jazz great Charlie Parker as some kind of musical god. There wasn't one pure jazz standard covered in the movie. Damien gave a tribute to Buddy Rich era big bands with wonderful solo artists, compelling takes on big band sound, music that high school and prep school orchestra and jazz bands practice on to this day. Whiplash was as much about Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band as it was about "jazz". Yet, we have the king of musical self-loathing and arrogance, Mr. Donald Fagen, declare that Damien didn't know what the F jazz was all about, as if Mr. Fagen and his former self-loathing and arrogant accomplice behind Steely Dan, Walter Becker, knew anything substantive about jazz. What Fagen and other YT channel owners who lambaste Whiplash have in common are out-of-control ego and an obsession to knock any celebrated, successful creative work about their field, music, albeit jazz, big bands, or other genre. They want to be regarded as the crown-jewel on music forms, music values, music conductors, players, etc. Thank you for making your point.
@alexanderthegreat1270 Жыл бұрын
@@dennylibertario2246 Jazz in the modern age seems to attract the most pseudo-intellectual pricks imaginable that want to lambast anyone that expresses an interest in it, the same way that people in the 1940's were probably critiquing symphony orchestra's arrangements of Vivaldi. Everyone critiques Whiplash for 'making music seem like a sport' or a competition, without getting that that's the point, that people like Fletcher and the upper eschelons of the music world have turned Jazz away from its experimentative, fun roots towards rigourous study and zen like focus. That's why it always makes me laugh when Fagen critiques it, as much as I like Steely Dan, it's obvious that Fagen and Becker were complete tyrants in the studio. How much fun can you have as a musician when you take a million versions of something so you can mix, meld and overproduce it into the cleanest possible version of it. Perfectionism and Jazz are actually at direct opponents of each other. I like Seb's quote in La La Land, "You had all these guys together in a New Orleans flophouse who couldn't talk to each other, they couldn't speak the same language but they could play music. Jazz isn't relaxing, Sidney Bechet shot someone because they said he played a wrong note. It's dramatic, and its new every time and its very very exciting"
@smoothie_gamer4 жыл бұрын
I re-watched whiplash for the 6th time last night and now this video gets upload
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
Great timing! I've watched Whiplash so many times as well. It never gets old!
@matthewrobinson20533 жыл бұрын
Chazelle is the first filmmaker I’ve followed like you would a sports team. Whiplash, La La Land & First Man are all absolutely amazing.
@elijahalbiston6 ай бұрын
I think his first two (La La Land and Whiplash) are incredible. First Man and Babylon are either not engaging enough or a way too over the top. So, while I like what he does and think he always succeeds with several aspects, I hope he moves back to smaller projects.
@Stallnig4 жыл бұрын
This movie is emotionally really hard to watch. Like really hard. And that just shows how great it is.
@areeanachowdhury90703 жыл бұрын
@@ishitrealbad3039 .......
@nataliesparks86263 жыл бұрын
I agree, if you are emotionally mature enough to appreciate the tension and artistry of such a film it's a masterpiece in the way that it creates a tension and anxiety so well crafted it's sickening. It's incredible, in it's film shots and psychological depth of the characters. You FEEL the pressure, it's amazing.
@Mububban23 Жыл бұрын
I watched it, loved it....but don't know if I can put myself through it again!
@seeexy Жыл бұрын
im not going to agree with the last part but yeah it was hard to watch and i remember only that feeling from the kovie strongly and nothing else
@richardlopez2932 Жыл бұрын
Or Requiem For A Dream. Or listening to Hubert Selby, Jr. talk about his life. Or having almost any conversation with me.
@TheTuubster4 жыл бұрын
The movie is basically about a psychopath that raises a sociopath.
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
Haha
@mariovillanueva24424 жыл бұрын
Ba dum tsss
@llmehdill4 жыл бұрын
The movie is basically about the greatest teacher that raises the greatest dtummer in the world...
@jatinsinghyadav59413 жыл бұрын
@@llmehdill GREATEST TEACHER WHO AMDE HIS STUDENT KILL HIMSELF BY PUTTING TO MUCH ONTO HIM
@cherusiderea13303 жыл бұрын
@@llmehdill You want a teacher like this? lol
@2MuchSwag4Funzies3 жыл бұрын
This movie was not intended to be a narrative. It was meant to be an experience and that's exactly why I want to watch it again and again
@doctorfantastic004 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite movies of all time.
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
It's mine as well.
@draytond4 жыл бұрын
"You can’t be normal and expect abnormal results" ― Jefferey Pffefer "Greatness is a decision" ― Mike Maples Jr. Both quotes were said it in a business context, but they definitely apply here. I'm not a film guy at all, but your channel is awesome! Superb work!
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic quotes. Thanks for watching, Drayton!
@bw-xv2rz4 жыл бұрын
Ah, Mr. Gay pride of the upper west side himself
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
So many good lines in this movie
@patrick_dy3r4 жыл бұрын
Behind the Curtain Agreed! Should’ve won the Oscar for Screenplay that year!
@dragonyoshi14 жыл бұрын
I love the theme of expressive effort, of getting good at something through suffering in this film.
@realm82864 жыл бұрын
This movie is not about Jazz at all.
@Sillylittletotebagqueen3 жыл бұрын
Its just as much about jazz as black swan was about ballet
@The.Kyle.Scott.4 жыл бұрын
“The idea of originality in art is overrated...too narrative focused” I agree, especially being too narrative focused, because it usually comes at the expense of character development. Edit - a word
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
As much as I love Christopher Nolan, sometimes his films can lean too heavily into concept and away from character. Still great films though.
@The.Kyle.Scott.4 жыл бұрын
Behind the Curtain agreed. There’s no one correct way to write a screenplay or direct a movie. When done right narrative driven stories can be just as effective as character stories, but the overemphasis on narrative in modern cinema done by lesser directors or writers than the greats like Nolan, has resulted in a weaker cinematic experience OVERALL. But that’s just me nitpicking haha
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
@@The.Kyle.Scott. It's important to be able to articulate an opinion on it (regardless of the answer you arrive at) - especially if you want to be a writer yourself.
@G-04 жыл бұрын
@@The.Kyle.Scott. I rewatched Inception recently, essentially backs up the notion that Nolan focuses too much on narrative at times. The script in that film is a little weak compared to some of his others. Also I believe your assumption on narrative over character is the main reason why 2019 was so great for movies. A lot of character driven tales over just high-concepts. I believe this is the root of success for the Marvel movies. The reason people love those movies is because they believe in the characters. It does not matter whether or not the films themselves are great-- it's the characters that drive people to the cinema.
@The.Kyle.Scott.4 жыл бұрын
G-0 exactly! You can’t relate to a narrative. Well, you can, but only in broad strokes. For example, you can relate to a situation or stakes in a specific narrative, but generally you aren’t going to feel a connection to a narrative driven film. In contrast, character-driven films are relatable in various ways..you relate to the character personally, or you know someone the character reminds you of, or you wish to be like that character. Hell, even if you don’t have any connection to a character or their actions, you can relate on a innate human level, you can FEEL for them, empathize, emote at their hardships, etc. Thanks for the great conversation friend Edit - I should clarify something. You can relate to a narrative driven flick, but on a more artistic level. You can appreciate the gravitas, the technique used to display the narrative, etc. it’s less personal, but that doesn’t mean you can’t connect or be inspired by it.
@cinesheikh4 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video on one of my favourite films of all time! I really related to the idea of wanting to become the greatest at something being a filmmaker myself. I highly recommend doing a video on the narrative structure of Dunkirk, plenty of interviews with Nolan to pull from. He based Dunkirk's structure on an audio illusion called the Shepard's tone that gives a never-ending feeling of rising tension, I think this will make for a great video from your channel.
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
That could be a really interesting video! Thanks for the suggestion!
@awesomevanessa22664 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏 I just watched Whiplash & really enjoyed the movie. This breakdown is spectacular!
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the club! It's such a good movie. Glad you enjoyed the video.
@killthecatpodcast63003 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite movies and screenplays! I learned so much, thank you for sharing!
@IvanLendl874 жыл бұрын
I watch this movie at least once every couple of months. Absolutely love it. Thanks for the video!
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
It's so so good. Glad you liked the video!
@G-04 жыл бұрын
This is my personal favorite film for a reason. It does everything right, well save for some drumming (source: I'm a drummer), and is endlessly entertaining.
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
It's one of my favorites as well!
@G-04 жыл бұрын
@GFrank Good for you
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
@GFrank This movie isn't about jazz
@notyouraveragegamergirl5524 жыл бұрын
@GFrank I mean at a basic level, the movie is about obsession and abuse, you're right, the movie does use Jazz as a pretext, because it examines other aspects. Just because you don't like a movie doesn't mean it doesn't talk about anything meaningful. Even bad movies can have interesting messages.
@NoiseThatLaughs3 жыл бұрын
Calm down dude. Movies are not made to be accurate, they’re made to be entertaining. That is the primary function of most movies (excepting documentary) I play music professionally and have noticed that most movies do not accurately display the playing of instruments. While this does annoy me in the moment, I know better than to denounce the movie and director. This movie isn’t made for drummers and pro musicians only. Black Swan was not made for ballet dancers dancers only. Mid 90s was not just made for skateboarders. Movies are made for the general public to consume and enjoy, and they often take liberties with details for the sake of entertainment and getting the themes across. I went to Berkee too, and I find people like you so embarrassing.
@james2thewilson4 жыл бұрын
Such an amazing movie. Damien truly crafted a masterpiece. Is success worth the torture and isolation? For Andrew, it was.
@SatishTorani4 жыл бұрын
Hi Amaya , really appreciate the way you have structured the video. I plan to do the same for hindi movies. Can you kindly inform how you get access to footage of these films. Would help a lot. Thanks
@sanjaymaurya55203 жыл бұрын
there is one fellow indian channel "cinema beyond entertainment". i think this might help you.
@richrent4 жыл бұрын
Yes for the most part work defines the level of success you will attain. In my younger years when I looked at being in a band I had no idea that fame or riches were fleeting. As I progressed as a songwriter (not artist), I saw people who had very little talent but could play like they were machines. Once I realized there were roads that were harmful in my quest, I became less interested in the Rock-Star scene. Whiplash skirts the whole greatness process scene. Does it nail it? No not really. Damien merely told a story that had unfortunate realities to it. If anything it told a tale that too often gets overlooked. Fletcher was not concerned about other's well being. Andrew saw that whatever he wanted, Fletcher was the wrong way to get it. Damien Chazelle wrote a good commercial film with incredible performances, with a reminder at the end to tap into yourself first even when it may be the last thing.
@idanlewenhoff2295 Жыл бұрын
the fletcher vs Nicole contrast is very interesting views on the main characters process.
@CraigHinrichs4 жыл бұрын
"She's pretty, but doesn't know it"
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
Only a true auteur can write description like that!
@thesusandaniel3 жыл бұрын
My god, this is so amazing 🤩 I think I need to to watch Whiplash again for the fifth time!
@moratuwamaleke69234 жыл бұрын
Great video! It’s like a good film school lecture.👌🏾
@ctfhb2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, they're an absolute inspiration for us in the narrative craft. It would be great if you could add more subtitle options, perhaps in spanish? Or maybe enable the function so users can add subtitles in their own languages too, so we can share with non english speakers 🙏🏽
@snehasutradhar13122 ай бұрын
great editing for the voice over
@austinjohnson1271 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t even notice the subtle name change, but yeah that works. If I were in his shoes it would have bothered me a bit for sure.
@TheShapingSickness Жыл бұрын
This movie is incredible. You can have entire conversations and get to really know and understand people when you begin to discuss whether they approve of fletcher's methods or not. It is fascinating.
@BehindtheCurtain Жыл бұрын
Ohhhh absolutely. I have had many haha. Any other films you'd like to see a video about?
@AntonellaCipriani4 жыл бұрын
this channel is a gem
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Antonella! Lots of great content is yet to come!
@tag65023 жыл бұрын
This is a great channel. Thank you for sharing all of these videos.
@angelthman16594 жыл бұрын
Best film of the decade.
@dvd-pro4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos and the amount of work you put into them 👌
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, David. I appreciate that.
@CamoFFAArmy4 жыл бұрын
So I recently re-watched Whiplash and fell in love with this movie again, and to see this video be uploaded 4 hours ago, I was shocked!
@bmatthews154 жыл бұрын
Greatest climax of all time!
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
It's so thrilling!
@alexispapageorgiou724 жыл бұрын
It was incredible ... The car accident could've easily destroyed everything in a less masterfully crafted story. I always wonder whether he purposefully dropped the curtain just a touch sooner than, perhaps, expected.
@alejandrovillegas177 Жыл бұрын
This is a film made for whomever is willing to risk for somenthing and give all the best of themselves. Of course is an extreme representation of the situation but the philosophy that's in the story is an eyeopener for anyone willing to understand it's meaning. We're living very weird times when succes is measures by algorithms no mater if we are really mediocre, the moment Fletcher says "theres no more harmful words on the english languaje tan good job" really got to me. I'm a professor and a father and I use this film to motivate mi kids and my students to go further to not being complacient with the basic effort. It's treu that the metods of both Fletcher and Andrew are wrong in the practice but I really believe that we have become numb as a society in a global sense (I'm in Bolivia and I feel how younger generations lack of willingness to make the maximum effort even when they have so many resourses to go beyond what my generation could back in our time), and that is a shame. This film is probably one of the 10 best of this almost quarte of the century. Thank you Damien.
@koflight4 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown, thanks for posting!
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.
@nathanneff40734 жыл бұрын
great series, hope it continues. very cool
@netric4011 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of tiger moms who may make a balance between tough/ruthless and loving/caring.
@viking879610 ай бұрын
"You don't just roll out of bed and become Charlie Parker. You work for it."
@Kishan_Baijnath4 жыл бұрын
Damn good stuff, as usual. Thank you. :)
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Kishan.
@hawkeyenextgen71173 жыл бұрын
Back when I was in 10th grade, I was in the wrestling class. I was only approximately 120 Ibs at the time and underweight. One day early in the season, my collarbone and ribcage became misaligned. My arms horizontal movement became restricted due to the pain. I asked everyone; my coach, my teachers, my parents to help me see a Chiropractor. No one took me seriously. Because of this injury which I was forced to wrestle with or fail the class, I never won a single match. I felt absolutely devastated. I refuse to see this movie because I am afraid of reliving my own trauma. It’s because of this trauma I fail to understand how so many people including Chris Stuckmann can praise a work like this, and because I fail to understand I feel weak, incompetent, and outcast. Sometimes I feel like all the critics are begging me to see it else I’m missing out on something great; the performance of a lifetime. Is it okay to feel deathly afraid of a film such as this?
@D00Rb3LL2 жыл бұрын
Ur being a bitch bro, grab your balls and either watch this movie or don’t, but none of us give a fuck whichever you do
@avengemybreath3084 Жыл бұрын
No. It’s totally understandable, but not ok. Face your fears. Stand up for yourself.
@Stratword_ Жыл бұрын
This screenplay is a wonderful read.
@BehindtheCurtain Жыл бұрын
One of the first screenplays I fell in love with
@BroughtCat2 жыл бұрын
I love this movie!!
@epg964 жыл бұрын
Are you planning to make video about Makoto Shinkai?
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched much of his stuff!
@sebastianalegria34014 жыл бұрын
My brother suggested me to watch Whiplash, I watched it, and I actually liked it. Without make any spoilers, the movie's about an obsessed artist who wants to prove himself with the purpose of knowing how far you would get to be the best one, it's also known art makes people take risks, and Whiplash is a right example of it. So if you haven't seen it yet, don't wait anymore, just fuckin' watch it.
@Gedagnors3 ай бұрын
It is weird that the one very important thing that makes every musician great one - is simply missing. Everyone likes something short and flashy. Something you can understand right here and right now without growing as a professional. This magical thing is called... practice. And you don't need to end up in a car accident. And you simply can't start playing good by getting crazy. You need to practice. And it takes time. None of this was shown in the movie. Because it's "boring". Because music is when you just take new instrument, go through mental breakdown - that's it. Boom! You are genius. "Everyone must eat fast food". And this is not how real life works, fortunately.
@dandai84 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks man, this was great!
@sebastianalegria34014 жыл бұрын
When I was younger, my older brother suggested me to watch this film. At the beggining I didn't care about it but, when I saw it all, I said; "here's something important". To be honest Miles Teller's performance was terrific nevertheless, JK Simmons stole the film, in spite of the fact he was the supporting actor, so it's worth to watch it once in the life. On the film director (Damien Chazelle), I had the chance to watch his two famous movies "Whiplash & La la land" however, I don't consider him as my favourite director yet, so if I had to watch his 3rd or 4th movie, he'd likely become one of my favourites filmmakers.
@superprecise4 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@biggestronald4 жыл бұрын
Great channel! I appreciate your work!
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@kdizzle901 Жыл бұрын
Babylon was so underrated i real enjoyed it
@FirezAper464 жыл бұрын
Really good stuff. Thanks!
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Sarim!
@nate47324 жыл бұрын
Great movie and channel!
@Josh-do5cl4 жыл бұрын
please do black swan
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
It's on the list!
@stu90004 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@DomskiPlays Жыл бұрын
Amazin fucking video holy shit this makes me wanna write a script when I've never done anything of the sorts lmao
@cxa0115004 жыл бұрын
JK Simmons is such a great actor
@JeffKeffs4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you! How did you manage to get this interview? :o
@Serriniverse2 жыл бұрын
wow that commercial cant come at a worse point.
@andrewwhite87623 жыл бұрын
I loved this film.
@emilioalvear84404 жыл бұрын
More like Andrew breaks down in whiplash
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
Very true haha
@emilioalvear84404 жыл бұрын
Behind the Curtain great video btw
@ieishabell76204 жыл бұрын
Love this movie
@mankytoes4 жыл бұрын
I loved this film, and it's fascinating hearing them talk about it, but I feel its' weird the film and the creator don't seem to acknowledge that the whole goal of both the leads seems totally delusional. There aren't famous jazz musicians anymore. Everyone they talk about is from a previous era. I listen to jazz, but I can't name any contemporary performers, and neither can the vast majority of people.
@jonathancampbell52314 жыл бұрын
In the small world of professional jazz musicians though, it might be quite different. He's trying to be famous within their own subculture. Which, in a way, is actually LESS delusional than trying to achieve mega fame on the global stage. Easier to achieve greatness in a niche, and then hope that the world will discover your work later, or at least future generations within your sphere. I would argue that the reason it's harder to name contemporary jazz musicians is not because there aren't any great ones out there, but because jazz now has to compete will all kinds of other genres, subgenres, fandoms, subcultures etc For comparison, the most viewed TV show of 2017 was The Big Bang Theory, while the most viewed of 1997 was ER, but ER got almost double the viewership of BBT. That's not (only) because one show is better than the other, it's because TV ratings across the board have dropped considerably over the decades as the number of channels explodes, and other forms of media like KZbin show up. Basically, we've moved into an era where people are increasingly drawn towards subculture than culture.
@mankytoes4 жыл бұрын
@@jonathancampbell5231 That isn't what he says though, he wants to be like Charlie Parker. The Charlie Parkers of today are rappers or DJs or singers.
@jonathancampbell52314 жыл бұрын
@@mankytoes Most people don't know who Charlie Parker is even if he was famous back in his day, ergo it's obvious that Neiman on some level loves jazz and loves the art. I mean, even back in the 50s, Charlie Parker was no where near as famous as some people living today, or on-par with someone like Sinatra. Neiman compares himself to Parker because Parker died at the age of 34 and Neiman is thinking "if I die early but am remembered, so be it". Yes, Neiman obsessively wants to be famous, but he wants to be famous for something he is good at and passionate about (and/ or feels it superior to other forms of music). He's not going to be a famous rapper, DJ or singer because he's not good at that nor is he interested in that, but he's good at drums and he's good at jazz, so that's his best shot at fame of any kind. Maybe on some level he's also just a bit of an art snob too.
@williamschlass45983 жыл бұрын
Thats the point. Did you forget fletchers monologue in the bar? Watch it again
@adriancarrera75234 жыл бұрын
Is there a link to this as a podcast?
@archangecamilien18792 жыл бұрын
11:01 yes, lol...operas are definitely not about plot...I hate most of those plots, lol...I mean...they're cliché, etc, it's the music I like...but in film, lol, I'm not sure I agree...I prefer strong plot to dream sequences, etc, I tend to like films that have stories in them, or character studies, not too abstract, lol...
@joehera83114 жыл бұрын
Originality is not overrated Scorsese has made movies that can't be made again ragging bull. Goodfellas. Casino.taxi driver that what makes him a masterpiece legend
@The.Kyle.Scott.4 жыл бұрын
Joe Hernandez I don’t think he means that originality isn’t necessary or can’t be great. He’s simply saying that EVERYONE emphasizes that everything be original. No one in their right mind would question the greatness or the originality of those classics🤗
@joehera83114 жыл бұрын
@@The.Kyle.Scott. Good insight
@1997residente4 жыл бұрын
Man,it´s a bummer Fant4stic ruined Teller´s career. He could have been in La La Land.
@dylanfarnum41214 жыл бұрын
Ruined Teller's career? Lmao. Fant4stic reflects poorly on the director and the studio. It stars Teller, Kate Mara, Jamie Bell, and Michael B Jordan, all of whom are remarkably talented, successful and popular. Have you seen "bleed for this"? Miles Teller is a full blown movie star, he could continue to act for the rest of his life based on the films he has already made.
@ApocryphalDude4 жыл бұрын
Tell him so shove his apple commercial us where his Oscar was.
@mrstephenpariah Жыл бұрын
Why would Fletcher seek to sabotage his own performance though? I never understood the rationale there.
@fightingblindly Жыл бұрын
eh, i lived through something similar to this shit with a band direct. nah, lol.
@DylanWOWilliams Жыл бұрын
Encouraging
@thecourtdijaster4 жыл бұрын
Him and Colin Moriarty sound kind of alike
@GSProductions33 Жыл бұрын
6:12
@vickybeee25074 жыл бұрын
Wow this dude's vocal fry is wild HAHAHA
@kponly4 жыл бұрын
stealing is the wrong analogy for exploring methods of other artists in your own work. It isn't okay to plunder the houses of others. People should use their creativity to find another way to talk about it.
@samzheng58034 жыл бұрын
Nice
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@makemoneymorawski27524 жыл бұрын
Nice
@The.Kyle.Scott.4 жыл бұрын
Niceee
@The.Kyle.Scott.4 жыл бұрын
Jr Beans dyslexic and he can’t spell ;( sorry bud
@artistsingerwriterproducer8288Ай бұрын
I like la, la, land
@xFrostyDZN Жыл бұрын
"The whole idea of originality in art I think is really sort of overrated." Not listening. He is unlikely to have anything valuable to say...
@kendalljamesmusic3 жыл бұрын
How I wrote Whiplash- I just watched Officer and a Gentleman, GI Jane, One On One, and several other films about a sadistic mentor abusing a young protege, then adapted those stories to a jazz band background. Originality is indeed over-rated!
@ReactionShot3 жыл бұрын
Immature artists imitate. Mature artists steal.
@jeffl1032 жыл бұрын
Originality in art is overrated? My god. Could he be any more pretentious? You lost me within 15 seconds.
@devinmichaelroberts99544 жыл бұрын
I was so stunned and loved this film and then so confused when he made La la crap.. worst movie i've seen in a decade. So cheesy and shitty compared to whiplash
@9WAYSRECORDS3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of this film. Looked it up and was instantly annoyed people find this good. Go watch the big lebowski. That's actual art.
@joshwebster38163 жыл бұрын
Here's the key. Take a real life scenario and make it as over the top as you can. I can't even tell you how many musicians hate the way this movie was done. It's so over the top with the drama that never would actually exist. As a movie it's ok...as far as anything that is remotely close to a real story. We are watching his overly exaggerated interpretation of what he thinks was going on. It's a horrible representation of musicians and how they are taught. But we love fake ass drama...so here you go. My favorite part was when he was talking about how phony it sounded....then he makes this.
@EFCkingTom Жыл бұрын
Nobody wants to watch two hours of a passive aggressive jazz teacher and a pretentious student shooting sly digs back and forth. Besides the film only uses jazz as a means to an end, to help the actual story of the relationship flourish.
@batgurrl4 жыл бұрын
Love your breakdowns. Thanks so much for doing them. JK Simmons was more lethal in this than even as white supremacy leader Vern in HBO’s OZ. One of the greatest performances of The Decade
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. He is fantastic here. I can watch this film over and over and not get bored.
@originaozz4 жыл бұрын
Great timing for this upload! This film really reflects my life right now or more precisely the life I've decided to put behind. The first few times I've watched it I still see the ending as a happy one. But now, being quite successful at my job in exchanged for 2 years of harassing comments and toxic bosses (whether it's directed at me or seeing my colleagues mistreated) just made me realize how bitter that ending is. In the end, Andrew did successfully proved himself to Fletcher, but the success was on Flether's term. In life, esp. creative fields of work, the "best" is never definite. It's when you allow one person to shaped yours and everyone else's thinking, that you lose a part of yourself and lose control of making your own success.
@chaeyoungvideos57424 жыл бұрын
Yo this is so timely I just rewatched this a few says ago
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thanks for watching
@leyezreal73344 жыл бұрын
Harold Tan Wtf me too
@chaeyoungvideos57424 жыл бұрын
@@leyezreal7334 it's a sign. We should make a movie
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
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@markguitarlfk4 жыл бұрын
If by chance Damien reads youtube comments: I just finished a script entirely inspired by the third scene with Andrew and Nicole. My way of saying good job.
@Santana1054 жыл бұрын
The two most harmful words in the english language.
@thedoode7749 Жыл бұрын
harmful >:|
@andrew-se6gb Жыл бұрын
These writing videos, which combine bits of different interviews from the creators to expand on particular ideas that perhaps no single interview covers, are really awesome. Great job.
@aarond95634 жыл бұрын
Oh boy! We're in for a good one here! Thank you so much for making these videos Nehemiah! I don't know how yu get to sit down with these directors for such an indepth analysis but I'm glad you do! These are fascinating fascinating videos and I loved this one. Chazelle did so well in delivering the wanted themes here and was it a unsweet victory indeed. This is my 3rd favorite film of all time!
@sohndustin3 жыл бұрын
The opposite of this was Pixar’s Soul
@bj117554 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely the best film channel on KZbin. The pure commentary of the actual author of the work is composed and edited so incredibly well. Amazing stuff.
@BehindtheCurtain4 жыл бұрын
Hey, I really appreciate that. Glad you're enjoying the channel. Lots of exciting stuff on the way!
@kapilk8074 жыл бұрын
I love this movie..
@jasonkav10 ай бұрын
It also reflects my 15yrs in the US Army. Nothing wrong with high standards.
@loveeveryone1142 жыл бұрын
Mr Chazelle is an excellent director but one helluva stout taskmaster. Good folks to work for he really works one on one with even the bit parts. Deicated to his crew.
@Adrian-bt4nf9 күн бұрын
Whiplash is one of my favourite movies !!! It’s the way a winner is made 👍