How Imu Tricked The 20 Kings Into Going To War With Joyboy

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@MrMorj
@MrMorj 6 ай бұрын
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@peterlynch9929
@peterlynch9929 6 ай бұрын
Where’s the Adidas link? I don’t see it in the description
@MrMorj
@MrMorj 6 ай бұрын
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@jacquespolome9097
@jacquespolome9097 6 ай бұрын
@@MrMorj Sorry but that ain't the case. Cannot find any link
@IvyDrip-g6w
@IvyDrip-g6w 6 ай бұрын
The adidas ads are honestly kind of impressive for a one piece KZbin channel I hope they give u a pro model shoe one day
@KizaruGlazers
@KizaruGlazers 6 ай бұрын
Link isn't visible anywhere. At least not on PC
@Freedom_iwant
@Freedom_iwant 6 ай бұрын
Oda:- you cant leak my plan if i dont have one Morj :- Nah I'd cook
@dothangbui4918
@dothangbui4918 6 ай бұрын
222
@suneelj93
@suneelj93 6 ай бұрын
Like the guy that shoots 1/7 FG and celebrates his one make.
@dothangbui4918
@dothangbui4918 6 ай бұрын
@@suneelj93 wdym
@lr_n1752
@lr_n1752 6 ай бұрын
Imu only deceived them by telling them the raid will end in fail
@jeromebranchetti6002
@jeromebranchetti6002 6 ай бұрын
To this day I still go and watch those videos 😢 hoping it ends in failure
@Problemsolver434
@Problemsolver434 6 ай бұрын
Give it a rest 😏
@sals4767
@sals4767 6 ай бұрын
*failure
@SyedAfaq-u7q
@SyedAfaq-u7q 6 ай бұрын
U gotta let it go man
@Ktbcuts
@Ktbcuts 6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@tysongoudie6158
@tysongoudie6158 6 ай бұрын
It is also interesting how opposite paths were taken to rule by Crocodile and Im. One sought to rule by depriving the land of water and one ruled by overflowing the world with water.
@NickolasNick-wo3tl
@NickolasNick-wo3tl 6 ай бұрын
Rayleigh also thought that the conflict had no direct right and wrong parts, he said something like "follow your own path to find out, maybe in the end you get to a different conclusion", meaning that it is open to interpretation.
@ultimatehaki1
@ultimatehaki1 6 ай бұрын
Morj going for the world record on how many times he can spoil the story.
@ralph4370
@ralph4370 6 ай бұрын
Like his theory on the Wano Raid failing...
@xdj_doritox6200
@xdj_doritox6200 6 ай бұрын
@@Nobody0117 ahora que lo dices de esa manera tiene mucho sentido
@mannythegrandfather2291
@mannythegrandfather2291 6 ай бұрын
@@ralph4370 Ohhh, what about Luffy unlocking Advanced Conqueror's Haki, or Zoro unlocking Conqueror's, or Shanks being at Elbalf, or Momo using age manipulation to become an adult or even more recently with the reveal of the true world being lost underneath the sea? I'm guessing those don't count as well lmao
@Vitalykazual
@Vitalykazual 6 ай бұрын
@@jimbeam-ru1my, big mom coming to Wano
@kennethcampbell1934
@kennethcampbell1934 6 ай бұрын
​@@mannythegrandfather2291 Big Mom going to Wano was the biggest one
@poutineausyropderable7108
@poutineausyropderable7108 6 ай бұрын
Alabasta is the void century. Dressrosa is the present/future. And Skypia is the entire story.
@ItUnidentified
@ItUnidentified 6 ай бұрын
Well played mate
@JiviteshBakshi
@JiviteshBakshi 6 ай бұрын
what is the future?
@infinioda108
@infinioda108 5 ай бұрын
​@@JiviteshBakshifuture is wano 🤩🤩🤩
@mrknight221
@mrknight221 3 ай бұрын
Glazing midpeia
@zero1188
@zero1188 6 ай бұрын
Imu: the raid will fail 20 kingdoms: we believe you
@EA-dweller
@EA-dweller 6 ай бұрын
In my opinion there was never a void century and some of sophisticated futuristic Empire. The current One Piece story is in fact the void century. Luffy is not a “new Joyboy or nika” Joyboy and Nika have always been different names different nations gave Luffy. Joyboy in Wano, Nika in Elbaf, Warrior god in others,.. Joyboy was pirate? So just like Luffy. Joyboy made a promise to the Mermaid Princess? Well,Luffy did make a promise to Sharahoshi. There was an evil Ling that once ruled Dressrosa 900 years ago and enslaved the small people the “Tonta kingdom”, the old wise Tonta oldest guy said and apparently they were liberated by warrior and the new king apologized to them. The evil King is Doflamingo, the other king who apologized to them is Riku. All hear things were happening right in front of our eyes. The only cities that live under water are caused by the action on Imu. But Vegapunk wouldn’t know that. When Roger found the one piece he laughed and said he wished he had lived in the same era as Joyboy. He never mentioned if it was in the future or the past. And who else could make them laugh with a very silly and goofy dream more than Luffy who’s been doing the same to us for decades? My theory is that Momonusuke will learn to scripture the poneglyphs from his grandfather. Robin can read and also write the message. Which would explain why his kingdom Ohara was the last to read the poneglyphs. Vivi might acquire the devil fruit to travel in the past, which she would use to send a coded message 900 years ago to prepare for what’s happening right now. Also the 20 kingdoms were probably aware of this and that’s why they decided no one should access that throne in order to avoid this coming war but Imu managed to do it and took over the throne. The devil fruits might actually simply be creation of Vegapunk and he just never realized it. So is mother flame which is technically nuclear power. Just like Albert Einstein he developed nuclear power thinking he could fix the issue of energy which seems to be the main reason for war around the world but instead the United State and their Allies NATO (which is very similar to the world government in one piece) decided to use that power to weapons and literally destroyed everyone who refused to yield. The murdered and displaced populations around the world. They pillaged African, still have them under neocolonial rules, they literally depend on Africa for natural resources while Africans suffer and starve. The celestial dragons are simply the “Juuuz” and Marijoie is Israel. They murdered and displaced millions to occupy their land that they now call “Holy Land” but recently the whole got to witness that that’s where the demons of this world reside just like where the demons in one piece also reside in Marijoie. But although many of those privileged settlers (the celestial dragons) are extremely stupid, sadistic, racist and just like the settlers in Palestine. You also have very evil powerful geniuses. Like the Figarland family in One Piece. In our current world those are people like Netanyahu, The Rockefeller Family, Rothschild Family, Nuland, Henry Kissinger, Larry Fink of Blackrock that owns almost every American and Western European corporation, the Antony Blinken, Victoria Nuland, Lindsay Graham and other Christian Siononists would idolize Israel. Saying they wil sink the world is into darkness is exact what’s happening. With Zelensky and Netanyahu who are both from that group have started wars in Europe and the middle that could escalate into a WW3. The last War in Onepiece seemed to be inspired by the American civil war. There is a reason Oda used A guy who looks like Abraham Lincoln to host the last world government reverie.
@Robss_
@Robss_ 6 ай бұрын
@@EA-dwellerbro most of the examples you made to claim that the current time is actually the void century are literally parallels. Just the fact that Zunesha said that he hasn’t hear the drums in 800 years proves that there actually was a JoyBoy living during that time, it can’t be just current Luffy or else it would’ve been Zunesha’s first time hearing them. Or even the ancient robot apologizing to JoyBoy, but Luffy just met him, so he gotta refer to another JoyBoy. Or literally the fact that Vegapunk’s research led to that period of time 800 years ago is debunking your theory from the start.
@dothangbui4918
@dothangbui4918 6 ай бұрын
@@Robss_ but his headcanon !
@bananaman7637
@bananaman7637 6 ай бұрын
At this point Morj should consider putting spoiler warnings on some of these videos
@WiiSage
@WiiSage 6 ай бұрын
anime only watchers can kick rocks, these discussions has always been about where the manga is currently, not the anime.
@throwaway_69
@throwaway_69 6 ай бұрын
@@WiiSage wooosh
@MagimonOfficial
@MagimonOfficial 6 ай бұрын
​@@acrane3496 just googled poes law, til...
@koolkid533
@koolkid533 6 ай бұрын
@@jimbeam-ru1myit was a joke
@mangobuster2460
@mangobuster2460 6 ай бұрын
​@jimbeam-ru1my woah look out we got a smart guy over here 😮 smart enough to not even realize it was prob mostly a non serious statement 🙄
@pooryorick2967
@pooryorick2967 6 ай бұрын
The million-dollar question as the void century clears up more and more is what it is the connection between God Valley, Xebec, and Blackbeard. The story is becoming more and more understandable, but I feel like Blackbeard is the one component that blows up any attempt to guess where this story is going.
@willmael7914
@willmael7914 2 ай бұрын
I have a crack theory that Blackbeard will somehow become the final villain after helping Luffy take down Imu, or he'll take down Imu himself somehow. When analyzing Blackbeard's future role in the story (the details of which are very unclear at this point); and taking into account how he always seems to walk into battles, struggles and gets stomped for a bit, then comes out at least semi-victorious anyway; and how he seems to be an underdog, to me it's not a stretch to say that there might be a path where he gets powers that are equal to Imu's and he presents a major threat to Luffy and the world It might even connect to Xebec and how maybe he knew about Imu and the truth about the void century, way before Roger did, and the incident at God Valley was related to him trying to somehow take some of Imu's powers
@Alphadanielmon
@Alphadanielmon 6 ай бұрын
How Morj tricked us into waiting for the Wano Analysis
@shanelebeau5891
@shanelebeau5891 6 ай бұрын
Speaking of Imu having Lilly killed… Oda is gonna have you killed… lol
@wojciechszeler2
@wojciechszeler2 6 ай бұрын
xD
@antyey6437
@antyey6437 6 ай бұрын
Morj...never existed
@Robss_
@Robss_ 6 ай бұрын
@@antyey6437👁️ 👁️
@elaichimohamed6617
@elaichimohamed6617 6 ай бұрын
Maybe he tricked 18 kings, but the doflammingo king was already evil as he enslaved the tontattas
@devingrayman8497
@devingrayman8497 6 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly, completely ignoring the narrative.
@PineappleBaconPizza
@PineappleBaconPizza 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, and Vivi's ancestor probably realized it after everything went down and helped spread the poneglyphs.
@Nubin2000
@Nubin2000 6 ай бұрын
Don Quixote King. Doflamingo is a first name like Rosinante.
@Nubin2000
@Nubin2000 6 ай бұрын
The 20 Kings seem to have demonic powers and are the precursors to the Holy God Knight they probably are evil or became evil due to Oni Devil Fruits.
@elaichimohamed6617
@elaichimohamed6617 6 ай бұрын
@@Nubin2000 🤣🤣🤣 memory can be so malleable, I have engraved in my memory a whole lineage of doflamingos
@justadonut1
@justadonut1 6 ай бұрын
ANOTHER MASTERPIECE FROM MORJ!
@germanbrandeburgo5925
@germanbrandeburgo5925 6 ай бұрын
To your point at 4:45: In chapter 1114, when Vegapunk is talking about the void century, we see a panel of Celestial Dragons reacting. Among them is Saint Shalria (Charloss’ sister), whose reaction seems to indicate that the younger people in Marigeoise don’t even know where their status comes from or why. That scene may be Oda planting the seeds for at least a portion of the Celestial Dragons to turn face. Edit: I posted this comment before watching the rest of the video. I see you address it 😅
@Anshelm77
@Anshelm77 6 ай бұрын
14:08 Is that really a fact though? Imu didn't seem to be 100% certain of Lili's betrayal, until Cobra revealed her to be a D 800 years later.
@17tgtgy
@17tgtgy 6 ай бұрын
Maybe he wasn't certain about it but couldn't take the risk of her knowing as well.
@mcrrodan
@mcrrodan 6 ай бұрын
The Don Quixote family were already enslaving the Tontatas long before the Lost Century. I can't imagine them being ''good guys''
@purplephantom2441
@purplephantom2441 6 ай бұрын
I wanted to write the same
@kylemullen2371
@kylemullen2371 6 ай бұрын
I think he thinks the Riku family was 1st then Don Quixote! Instead of DQ-Riku-Doflamingo-Riku. He see’s a reoccurring pattern & is using that formula to guess the IMU formula. I personally don’t think it’s that cut & dry this time & Oda’s got a nice surprise for us
@mcrrodan
@mcrrodan 6 ай бұрын
@@kylemullen2371 The Don Quixote were part of the Alianze of Nations that fought the Ancient Kingdom, so i don't see the Alianze as good guys. That is what i meant PD: Sorry, no native english speaker
@kennethcampbell1934
@kennethcampbell1934 6 ай бұрын
That is a good point. I don't think it'd be crazy if some good ones allied with the Don Quixote family though. Luffy allies himself with Midd and Wano treats Midd like a hero. We dont see Luffy as wrong although, Luffy is written very naively.
@JinxeBlaq
@JinxeBlaq 5 ай бұрын
Just because one of the kingdoms was morally questionable doesn’t mean they all were. It’s more likely they simply thought the Ancient Kindom was a big enough threat for them to work together.
@goodnight1119
@goodnight1119 6 ай бұрын
The Arabasta parallel is striking, great video morj!
@ayushnayak6138
@ayushnayak6138 6 ай бұрын
He definitely planned for celestial dragons into becoming inbread disasters.
@isaacgavey7762
@isaacgavey7762 6 ай бұрын
Funny things is that Imu and crocodile are both theorized to be luffy's mom😅
@CC-ed9lf
@CC-ed9lf 6 ай бұрын
A blue haired princess introduced as a villain who helps luffy retake their homeland. We all know who I'm talking about, BUGGY D CLOWN IS A CELESTIAL DRAGON.
@lilacangelblue2404
@lilacangelblue2404 6 ай бұрын
One of the silhouettes in the recent chapter does have a buggy-esque nose 👀
@GourSmith
@GourSmith 6 ай бұрын
@@lilacangelblue2404Just stop. That “nose” is literally about the size of that person’s head 😂 buggy’s nose is about the size of a strawberry … Not a basketball. Just stop.
@PER578
@PER578 6 ай бұрын
I just realized viola wasnt at the reverie because she would have seen imu
@stormfox7592
@stormfox7592 6 ай бұрын
She was at the reverie
@Nightlingbolt
@Nightlingbolt 6 ай бұрын
@@stormfox7592 Then how did she not see Imu? Like, are Imu and the Five Elders' rooms lined with Seastone or something? Or is their Haki simply invisible even to the Glare-Glare Fruit?
@Ashlake__
@Ashlake__ 6 ай бұрын
​@@Nightlingboltfrom what we've learnt, having very strong haki makes devil fruits not work on you, so it's easy to from what we've seen in egghead arc that gorosei and imu have incredible strong haki thus Viola isn't capable of seeing them.
@stormfox7592
@stormfox7592 6 ай бұрын
@@Nightlingbolt I don’t know ask Oda
@gamechaser94
@gamechaser94 6 ай бұрын
She didn’t use her devil fruit
@goofywill90
@goofywill90 6 ай бұрын
The promise that joyboy failed is connected Calgara & Nolan probably leading to Lili to help the 20 kingdoms. Heck laughtale, the story of Noland "laughing liar" which Sanji knows about. Which has what is known & what actually happened. Comedy & Tragedy the core of One Piece.
@iconiclittlecharacter9726
@iconiclittlecharacter9726 6 ай бұрын
Bro ate the Cook Cook fruit ordered from Factor with code Morj
@stewgamin3294
@stewgamin3294 6 ай бұрын
Adidas sponsorship with 200k subs good job morj thats unprecedented
@GourSmith
@GourSmith 6 ай бұрын
Really just shows how down bad adidas is …
@vanlassthegreat9734
@vanlassthegreat9734 6 ай бұрын
@@GourSmithor how far Mr moji has come.. don’t downplay his hard work.
@GourSmith
@GourSmith 6 ай бұрын
@@vanlassthegreat9734 I’m not downplaying anything. I’m literally stating a fact … They’re literally have an “everything must go” sale 🤨 We’re talking about a guy with 200k subs. That’s a great achievement-but adidas sponsoring a video who won’t even touch 200k views is proof of how down bad they are. They didn’t go for a guy like pewdiepie or Grand Line review or Joe Rogan … They went for the guy that said the raid would fail 😂 They down horrendously
@Oejak
@Oejak 6 ай бұрын
@@GourSmithyou are bitter like your father. It’s not Morj’s fault if your Pa cannot see anything good in you. So now you are a hater just because of big brand can appreciate good content.
@LarsCaesar
@LarsCaesar 6 ай бұрын
20 kings using the ancient weapons against eachother while knowing it'll sink the world. Not saying anything until it's too late. Enemies that decided to ally to hide what they did. Like Flevance, an old government classic.
@dimitra3867
@dimitra3867 6 ай бұрын
Oda has been trying to hammer into our heads that what individuals want and what entire factions want should not be confused with eachother. God Valley, were pirates or marines in the wrong? Roger and Garp seemed to just be on the same page at that specific key moment and battle. It does not mean marines and pirates are allied. It could possibly even be theorized that Joyboy and the 20 kings were on the same side, and seeked for the ancient kingdom to share its power and technology. But AFTER all was said and done Imu turned the tables and became the new king of the world and simply rewrote history.
@matthew4780
@matthew4780 6 ай бұрын
My headcanon is that Imu had this enormous crush on Lily and he spilled the beans to her when he was about to win so she could be his queen, but she refused and was horrified by the truth of her (and all 20 kings) mistake, that's why she acted like that in the end.
@LordFlack0
@LordFlack0 6 ай бұрын
This makes perfect sense given that Lily seems to have found out they were wrong after Joy Boys defeat.
@kshitijsavla
@kshitijsavla 6 ай бұрын
Joyboy and Imu were both from the Ancient Kingdom. Joyboy was all about sharing and exploring, like he wanted everyone to benefit from the Ancient Kingdom's riches. He had this charm that attracted people who shared his views, kinda like how Luffy makes friends everywhere he goes. Now, Imu was a whole different story. He was rich and sneaky, kinda like Blackbeard, always plotting and scheming. He wanted power and only recruited people who were tough and ruthless, promising them all sorts of stuff. Both of them left the ancient kingdom to explore the world. Joyboy explored the whole world & even the depths of sea where he found a trible of people called fishman. He was friends with the fishman kingdoms Princess. He promised the fishman princess that after he goes back to ancient kingdom he will come back & take them to the land where they can stay forever. When Joyboy and Imu came back to the Ancient Kingdom, they had a major disagreement. Joyboy was all for sharing the wealth and making peace with other kingdoms, while Imu wanted to dominate them all. The ancient kingdom people agreed with Joyboy & disagreed with Imu. After that Imu stole these super powerful ancient weapons and started spreading lies about how the Ancient Kingdom was evil and out to destroy everyone. People believed him, after Imu secretly used these weapons & manipulated the 20 kingdoms in thinking ancient kingdom used the weapons to destroy them and soon there was a huge war. Joyboy tried to stop it, but he didn't want to hurt anyone from the 20 kingdoms, so he couldn't fight back effectively. In the end, he lost to Imu, and the Ancient Kingdom fell. This person named Lilly, who was loved by both Joyboy and Imu, found out the truth about Imu's lies. She tried to expose him, but Imu couldn't risk it, so he got rid of her. - Kshitij Savla.
@animeinkpower9854
@animeinkpower9854 6 ай бұрын
*sprinkles a dash of salt* #DinnerIsServed
@lilacangelblue2404
@lilacangelblue2404 6 ай бұрын
Another chef who cooks expertly 🤌
@theone4821
@theone4821 5 ай бұрын
Very Great thought! I was starting to consider the slight possibility that Imu could have been from the Ancient Kingdom instead (had the thought about 10 minutes before reading this, the world seems to work in mysterious ways 😁)
@kshitijsavla
@kshitijsavla 5 ай бұрын
@@theone4821 i had this theory for a long time. & The previous chapter just confirmed the theory for me to post.
@kaychan7242
@kaychan7242 6 ай бұрын
Wouldnt the biggest resource they were fighting for be Land. My current theory is - Imu got access to the mother flame and fired it off causing the sea levels to rise and this caused the other kingdoms to revolt against the ancient kingdom as the land their nations were on was getting consumed by the new ocean. LILY found out the truth that the World Government was actually the ones who were making the world flood causing the war to happen.
@theone4821
@theone4821 5 ай бұрын
This is an excellent theory!
@truffle6082
@truffle6082 5 ай бұрын
Man not a bad at all this Theory is very good. Sounds like exactly what occurred!!
@ak3nodxd674
@ak3nodxd674 5 ай бұрын
And the land was all in one piece before imu tore it apart 😂
@IndiaTides
@IndiaTides 6 ай бұрын
I think Joyboy and Imu used the ancient weapons in their war. It was not just Imu's use caused the calamity. Joyboy at least had pluton as it is hidden under Wano which is obviously with Joyboy faction. Both sided justified their crimes. The justice won. Doflamingo view.
@jtthomas7349
@jtthomas7349 6 ай бұрын
I'm curious how Oda does plan on making the conflict morally complex.. cus right now it looks like the literal "drums of liberation" vs a bunch of monarchs that keep slaves and commit crimes like genocide. 🤔
@sunnysangha2097
@sunnysangha2097 6 ай бұрын
bruh oda is just gonna fumble here and make imu giga tier evil. its not a deep moral issue. oda cannot get is writing to be that complex -.-
@karoltv4390
@karoltv4390 6 ай бұрын
Keeping slaves/servants has only been morally wrong for the past 100 or so years every good monarch in our history had them
@hattyhattington3381
@hattyhattington3381 6 ай бұрын
@@karoltv4390 having slaves is always an evil, and given that this is a modern piece of art, it would be bad to depict the slave owners as good people.
@crazybrothers5544
@crazybrothers5544 6 ай бұрын
​@@sunnysangha2097 I mean I'm pretty sure he's done it a numerous amount of times
@kradiie
@kradiie 6 ай бұрын
I think Lily was a part of Joyboy's crew, that's why she'd been to all the places where she sent the poneglyphs using her DF. Then she went back to her kingdom, just like Vivi did and became the Queen. After that Imu had her turn against Joyboy and fight him in the war. Then she regretted it and carried out his will before Imu disposed of her.
@dpad_
@dpad_ 6 ай бұрын
I always thought Imus story was the mirror of Blackbeards. A seemingly unimportant noble with godly ambitions. Perhaps even with modest beginnings, much like Teech. Royal Nerona line mightve just started and will end with Imu
@rathinsinha5646
@rathinsinha5646 6 ай бұрын
I think he would have killed Lili anyway. I also think that the rulers who formed the world government together with Imu were not the ones who fought against the ancient kingdom. Imu probably must have chosen 18 people (one from each kingdom) who were willing to help his plan prevail. He replaced the original 18 monarchs( killed them) with his 18 minions and they helped him form the world government.
@christophervalentine4474
@christophervalentine4474 6 ай бұрын
1. First we get the set up in Alabasta. An evil force, represented by crocodile and his people, insidiously undermining the authority of a noble regime, so they can seize power in the bloody aftermath. 2.Present the current world structure as just and noble, or at least the best possible option. But gradually show how corrupt and broken it is through the protagonist’s journey of befriending people the system abused and ruined. However, never have average citizens protest against it because they’ve been so thoroughly brainwashed that they would accept that killing children was for the greater good if the government officials said so. 3. Some time later we get Doflamingo and his crew that have seemingly succeeded where crocodile failed. They overthrew the previous noble regime of Dressrosa and had near complete control of the land by the time Luffy and the others arrived. And in its place they formed a supposedly utopian kingdom that was in reality a dystopian nightmare like the larger world. Additionally, factoring in the numerous intentional parallels and similarities between the two arcs and the fact that doffy was a celestial dragon like Imu a pattern starts to emerge. 4. Finally, we reveal that the previous arcs were practice sections for the main event. Luffy’s journey of liberating smaller countries from such insidious forces was preparing him and foreshadowing to us in the audience that he would have to conquer the biggest insidious force that did what doffy did to Dressrosa but on the biggest scale. I say the logic checks out!
@perezjesus8jp
@perezjesus8jp 6 ай бұрын
My theory for lily is that imu originally used the personality switching ability of the op-op fruit before using the immortality operation. Cause lily and imu’s silhouette look familiar, as well as to vivi herself
@ejelder
@ejelder 6 ай бұрын
Nice video! There’s a line from someone at the start of Sabaody (i think hachi but can’t remember for sure) that each generation of Celestial Dragons has been worse than the generation before. This comes right when the Celestial Dragons are first introduced. Not to say that characters today would have had insight into Celestial Dragons 500 years ago or 800 years ago, but from the moment they are introduced Oda’s been planting seeds that these Celestial Dragons are worse than their ancestors Also, another though. Just like Crocodile did Alabasta because he wanted the ancient weapons, what if Imu did the same? Imu wants to flood the world, and if the ancient weapons can do that then Imu should have wanted them for that purpose (and maybe even used the ancient weapons to frame them, or even tricked Zunish into using them to frame him). There’s connective tissue to fill in here, but it seems to make a lot of sense
@Shingo_Aoi
@Shingo_Aoi 6 ай бұрын
This doesn't explain why Lili has the D. Imho it's more probable that she was already at Joyboy's side while being officially at the other side - like today Vivi goes to the Reverie while being Luffy's allie and actual nakama.
@sonnyechols5140
@sonnyechols5140 6 ай бұрын
I have only been watching one piece for a year now but I figured this was common knowledge it’s pretty obvious because it basically happens every time they get to a new island…spoiler alert there is gonna be a massive battle like marine ford at the end and all the people the strawhats have helped along the way will show up and fight for luffy like everyone showed up for whitebeard but this time EVERYONE will show up
@primesonic4459
@primesonic4459 6 ай бұрын
I wonder how long One Piece manga will last especially with how many chapters this flashback alone will take ? The flashback can include Joyboys story similar to Oden + Imu manipulation of the 20 kingdoms like Alabasta civil War + the actual fights between Joyboy and the 20 kings + the epilogue with Lilys discovery of manipulation, the making and the spreading of poneglyphs and her death + the hiding of joyboys crew and/or allies
@CallmeTheDon
@CallmeTheDon 6 ай бұрын
I believe imu and Joyboy where probably good friends or even brothers but at some point imu saw the power that could be had if him and joyboy joined forces and took over all the kingdoms but joyboy wanted no parts of it and wanted everyone to be free and liberated so imu thought of a plan to get everyone to turn against joyboy so that he (IMU) could rule over everything behind the scenes and slowly kill the other 20 kings one by one
@bluestarsaberstarwarsfan3838
@bluestarsaberstarwarsfan3838 6 ай бұрын
Why does Moji always say 150 nations when the pannel clearly says 170?
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa 6 ай бұрын
How about 192 nation in real world.
@LoudWaffle
@LoudWaffle 6 ай бұрын
@@carkawalakhatulistiwa uhhh... idk, how about them?
@unnamedshadow1866
@unnamedshadow1866 6 ай бұрын
I think there's more to it. I highly believe Imu is the example of what happens when you fail to Awaken a Mythical Zoan. The entity within the Fruit takes over. And Imu had a Devil Fruit that had the power of the Devil itself. Imu failed to awaken his fruit, and the Devil took over. Because if what Imu wanted was just Power, then there is no need to Destroy the World by Flooding. It is the Devil that took over Imu, manipulated the other 18 Kings.
@DJMilez
@DJMilez 6 ай бұрын
Loved this video! Excellent job Morj!
@thebladerunner5226
@thebladerunner5226 6 ай бұрын
Here's a theory ive had for a bit could Imu have stolen Nefertari D Lilies body with Law devil fruit and taken it as punishment for her actions with the ponaglyghs and thats why she went missing ,never returned home and her sword is missing in front of the "empty throne". Also doesn't Imu's shape bear a striking resemblance to Nefertari D Lili's
@pianoman3255
@pianoman3255 6 ай бұрын
This is a decent theory.
@zero1188
@zero1188 6 ай бұрын
I think joy boy got too powerful. Imu gathered all the kings and went against him. Also BIackbeard being who he is might be a representation of a D that betrayed joyboy because he is different
@TheManyFacedGawd
@TheManyFacedGawd 6 ай бұрын
Head cannon,but could crocodile mirror Imu in the sense that Imu was a man but became a woman (potentially taking Lily’s body orochimaru) the CrocoMom theory, but reverse
@LoudWaffle
@LoudWaffle 6 ай бұрын
I'm a simple One Piece fan. I see CrocoMom theorizing, and I upvote.
@calebcarver5082
@calebcarver5082 5 ай бұрын
So basically How did they defeated joy, boy, and ancient kingdom because they stole one of the ancient weapons, the ancient weapon, Uranus they use the ancient weapon, Uranus to defeat joy, boy, and the ancient kingdom, and as a result flooded the world 🌎 and after the world was flooded, the ancient weapon ran out of power, and because they destroy the ancient kingdom it’s power source was lost so spend the last 800 years trying to re-create the power source of the ancient kingdom to use the ancient weapon. I told today when Dr. Vega punk made the mother flame 🔥 and stole it from Vega punk the power of the ancient weapon to destroy the Lucia kingdom!
@arunabhalahiri4931
@arunabhalahiri4931 6 ай бұрын
This feels too simple... I believe this is not that simple as Vegapunk himself is in the dark.
@scrump_4949
@scrump_4949 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely stunning dish by chef Morj today 👌🔥🔥🔥🔥
@suckmycliticism
@suckmycliticism 6 ай бұрын
But they were all of them deceived...
@Passdcash
@Passdcash 6 ай бұрын
Unrelated to the topic of the video but…. If giants live to 300 years old, ain’t it possible Jarul’s (and other giants) grandparents lived through the void century and told their stories directly to currently living characters?
@paytonturner1421
@paytonturner1421 6 ай бұрын
I just like how things in One Piece might have been foreshadowed in other chapters. It shows how the writer leaves clues for the reader to put together.
@ET4KK
@ET4KK 6 ай бұрын
I feel like the fact that devil fruit users cannot swim and the fact that the world is sinking leaves a pretty obvious power up that is needed for luffy to have , and that is to be able to float or swim! also if you look at the mother flame its just floating there in the water and its been a few theories that Buffy will "eat" the mother flame so shat if when he eats it he gets the ability to go into water. (which would allow him to uncover the secrets hidden to the flood) what y'all think?
@Team4CD
@Team4CD 6 ай бұрын
After a recent reread I believe the D. Stands for Dawn
@xemnadicaxolando2217
@xemnadicaxolando2217 5 ай бұрын
Every arc is just going further and further along the "bad guys take over from the good guys" story
@jamesvaldez5071
@jamesvaldez5071 5 ай бұрын
I can imagine being rallied together by saying the ancient kingdom didn't want to share their creations that (as they were told) will solve all the problems they are going through. Perhaps they had something (although nothing that will fix all problems) they didn't wish to share because it's too dangerous.
@animealpha4795
@animealpha4795 6 ай бұрын
Did he just get sponsored by fracking adidas?????
@animeinkpower9854
@animeinkpower9854 6 ай бұрын
This is pretty spot on 👌🏾
@Vellan.
@Vellan. 6 ай бұрын
Great video morj!
@K4inan
@K4inan 5 ай бұрын
I'm noticing huge parallels with this and with Montblanc Noland and Calgara... It would not surprise me at all if Montblanc is actually the name of a family of celestial dragons. Calgara when he runs for Noland to ask for forgiveness, he says ''I've committed such a sin'', that reminds me of Joyboy apologizing to the fishmen.
@re_striker3431
@re_striker3431 6 ай бұрын
Gonna stop watching morj videos so I can enjoy the ending of one piece😭
@jeremyringkamp2490
@jeremyringkamp2490 5 ай бұрын
Bank sake tells the story of Joy boy and the betrayal that imu did. So it starts out with Joy boy traveling the world and drinking sake with the other kingdoms. Then it continues to go on and discuss how Joy boy was. Then later betrayed and the oceans Rose every single time, one of the ancient weapons was used.
@warwulf1889
@warwulf1889 5 ай бұрын
11:09 Don't forget, framing others almost netted them the Blueprints to Pluton.
@goddcamera123
@goddcamera123 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the analysis ❤
@ljwilliams6161
@ljwilliams6161 5 ай бұрын
Man your takes are so good that I felt compelled to subscribe! Good job!
@trashwizard7055
@trashwizard7055 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the shoes morjy
@Haseeb_1010
@Haseeb_1010 6 ай бұрын
Morj is really consistent in dropping these videos every week .
@toadounetlovesyou
@toadounetlovesyou 6 ай бұрын
I feel like the truth might be a bit more complicated than that. I believe that the 20 Kingdoms fought together for a greater good, based on their own ideologies. It might be related to a resource like the mother flame, or to the rise of technology, just like the debate on nuclear weapons in the real world. I feel like Imu tricked the other kings after the war was won, and it might have been the plan all along, but I don't think he tricked about the reason to fight this war, it makes the other kings feel a bit dumb. What I'm concerned about is that Joyboy's side most likely had all three ancient weapons, but it seems that the 20 Kingdoms are guilty for the water rising, as the Gorosei say they want to finish the job. Uranus in particular had to have been built by the Ancient Kingdom. Was it stolen? I'm very interested in what happened there.
@kinggilgamesh013
@kinggilgamesh013 5 ай бұрын
Biggest issue i have is Imu having an obsession with nefertari to this day. It means something to the story that I don't think any theorist has quite grasped in the right way.
@animeeditz4568
@animeeditz4568 6 ай бұрын
bro just fucking cooked 😮‍💨🔥🔥
@clarenceawiahblay7430
@clarenceawiahblay7430 6 ай бұрын
I honestly feel like imu was obsessed with lily .Spoilers ahead.... Why does imu look at a picture of a woman who is allegedly lily
@ernestoddelgado3350
@ernestoddelgado3350 6 ай бұрын
Legends says that if you say “the raid will fail” three times in front of morj’s channel icon, the raid on Wano will fail
@EllieisaBanana
@EllieisaBanana 6 ай бұрын
I think Imu wanted to take out Lily, but I think she became the founder of Amazon Lily to hide from the World Gov’t. It would make sense since it’s in the calm belt that was only recently accessible to the outside world. And it was protected by sea kings. If Lily and Joy Boy became Allies and Poseidon was also allied to Joy Boy, it stands to reason that they ordered the sea kings to protect the island.
@DonutSwordsman
@DonutSwordsman 6 ай бұрын
Ez sub, you're the elden ring lore master of one piece
@blackouthorus1519
@blackouthorus1519 6 ай бұрын
Alabasta playing iut like the og war made me have restart my brain for a second there
@timonegal2274
@timonegal2274 6 ай бұрын
I love how youtuber did not understand rhat 90 % of their viewers/possible buyers for the stuff they want to sell are watching on their phone and therefore not see the links they made
@stewartlangdon7198
@stewartlangdon7198 6 ай бұрын
Theres something more though, Imu seemed to take Lily's betrayal personally. Like he lived her at some stage.
@AceCreationsAz
@AceCreationsAz 6 ай бұрын
Your theories are so good i feel like im spoiling one piece
@GeorgeMesaros
@GeorgeMesaros 6 ай бұрын
See the title, agree immediately, watch video, mind blown. Loved it!
@loupe500
@loupe500 6 ай бұрын
The Gorosei also have to be in a part of smth. Maybe 6 families were actually evil, Imu and the 5 Gorosei’s familry, and the rest were manipulated. Meanwhile 2 families discovered the truth, the Nerfetari and the Donquixote. One tried to change things from the inside and lost it’s purpose, being the Donquixote, and one remained loyal to the cause, the Nerfetari.
@KittSpiken
@KittSpiken 6 ай бұрын
I need shoes. Picked a really inconvenient video to watch tomorrow.
@Team4CD
@Team4CD 6 ай бұрын
Lili discovered the giant Straw Hat Imu kept
@arrownibent5980
@arrownibent5980 6 ай бұрын
Now that I have a pretty concrete theory of what the One Piece is I can make the boldest assumption: Imu and Joyboy actually worked together to take down the Ancient Kingdom and trick the 20 kings
@Ectoplasticy
@Ectoplasticy 6 ай бұрын
Interestingly, Imu would have also needed the Gorosei (if they are from Void Century times as well) to back him up as well. Assuming each Gorosei is from a different 20-kingdom family, the conspiracy of the world of One Piece might have been between 6 of the original kingdoms while the rest were innocent.
@adelg8
@adelg8 6 ай бұрын
I liked the war parallels. Fire: Mother flame. Was the reason for the 1st war. Water: Rain. For the Alabasta war. Earth: land at skypia. Air: Oxygen. the next war will be fought to not drown the world.
@RaffyDGoat
@RaffyDGoat 6 ай бұрын
The parallel between the void century and Alabasta seems obvious now that you point it out. I can’t wait for the void century flashback, hopefully Oda dedicates a lot of time to it.
@meh9045
@meh9045 6 ай бұрын
I'm not sure I agree completely because the Donquixote were supposedly really cruel before the void century
@Adex767
@Adex767 6 ай бұрын
Blackbeard: I’m going to rule the world! Imu: … (T/L: Not if I drown it again)
@OsamaKhan-we7xi
@OsamaKhan-we7xi 6 ай бұрын
Imu: haha yeah..
@HeadbutKneecap
@HeadbutKneecap 6 ай бұрын
It’s possible the ancient kingdom was hoarding the advanced technology and resources, and the other kingdoms were left with more primitive resources and decided to rise up against them. In the process they got their hands on one of the ancient weapons which helped them defeat the ancient kingdom and instead of using and spreading the technology through the world, decided to destroy and hide the technology in order to have greater control over the countries of the world
@zotax3186
@zotax3186 6 ай бұрын
I don't know if I agree with all 20 Kingdoms being lied to by Imu. Some of them might've still been evil. Like the Donquixote Dynasty. The Tontata themselves said that, back then when the Donquixote used to rule Dressrosa, the Tontata were enslaved and abused by them. So I believe that only some Kingdoms were inherently good and led to believe they actually fought for a good cause.
@Manny301
@Manny301 6 ай бұрын
I love falling asleep listening to one piece theories
@woodycannon
@woodycannon 6 ай бұрын
My head cannon says Imu swapped bodies with Lilly via the ope ope no mi. Had the original Imu killed while lilly was still in that body.
@Azraelstellar
@Azraelstellar 5 ай бұрын
The way Imu talks about or watches Lily shows that it is impossible that Imu killed her. It might be an accident but I think she died because of Fate like what was going to happen to Sabo in lulusia
@ChamplooEvan
@ChamplooEvan 6 ай бұрын
I mean that's gotta be how it is right? "A Crocodile who succeeded" is just Doflamingo, and what is Doflamingo if not the representation of Imu on Earth
@steveturner9034
@steveturner9034 5 ай бұрын
Really solid theory once again 👏👏
@freemygrandma956
@freemygrandma956 6 ай бұрын
I think lily is Imu and she’s taken over by a devil fruit….that would sorta explain it’s obsession in the flower garden her pic was the only one being held and stared at 🤷🏾‍♂️
@Truck-kun11
@Truck-kun11 6 ай бұрын
Nah, I'm sure that a good amount of the 20 Kingdoms were just evil, take for example the Don Quixotes family who were already enslaving the Tontatas long before the Lost Century. Oda likes to sprinkle gray morality here and there, but in the end he always ends up going with the good old "Good VS Evil", especially when the Celestial Dragons are involved.
@ReiseLukas
@ReiseLukas 6 ай бұрын
Morj didn't say all of the kingdoms were good, just that some might've been.
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