How INDUCTOR's work & How to make your own

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Schematix

Schematix

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@sleepyduck
@sleepyduck 3 жыл бұрын
THIS IS the best JLPCB advertisement among all JLPCB advertisements :)
@coolnic1137-duofficialmaven
@coolnic1137-duofficialmaven 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the first C in JLCPCB.
@user-mp3eq6ir5b
@user-mp3eq6ir5b 3 жыл бұрын
Too Bad he didn't clip them to the the tree branches, too. I first thot he'd get shocked by the electric barbed wire fence. Whew, Lad!
@poloska9471
@poloska9471 2 жыл бұрын
Came to comments just to say this or see someone else saying this… and… well, I am not disappointed… first comment 🤘
@poloska9471
@poloska9471 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-mp3eq6ir5b same, I was like… is it going to zap him? I was confused why he was going out there dressed like that 😂
@samuel-br.man__3571
@samuel-br.man__3571 2 жыл бұрын
*MARKETING*
@zyxonn
@zyxonn 4 жыл бұрын
Man, you're a legend, wish I had professors half as interesting and clear in expression as you are.
@MittalGadgets
@MittalGadgets 4 жыл бұрын
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@JimK0QJC
@JimK0QJC 4 жыл бұрын
My courses were all math with a rare lab---too bad I did not have you Dr. Schematix!!! Hands on is the only way to learn.
@outerrealm
@outerrealm 2 жыл бұрын
He must’ve flunked English. There’s no apostrophe in the plural word “inductors”.
@deniprlic8461
@deniprlic8461 Жыл бұрын
Pravda!
@jimle22
@jimle22 6 ай бұрын
@@outerrealm It's OK, he is smart as hell when it comes to inductors.
@jamesstevens2362
@jamesstevens2362 3 жыл бұрын
I spent my career working with digital, now I’m jumping over to analogue for my midlife crisis. Coils... bugged the hell out of me because I just didn’t get them. After watching this video, I get it! Thank you for a very well explained and demonstrated video! 👍🏻
@wessippily
@wessippily 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched so many inductor tutorial videos and I swear none of them were even close to being as informational as this one. Thank you.
@SVSunnyJim
@SVSunnyJim Жыл бұрын
Yes mate, a no nonsense, straight to the point, clearly described presentation bursting with facts in a perfectly digestible format.... This is a gold standard introduction to inductors and their properties. Perfect.
@oasntet
@oasntet 2 жыл бұрын
I recently started winding my own toroids for some low-power ham radio kits. It's worth mentioning that even on a high-end RF-rated toroid (e.g. type 43 ferrite) the proximity of turns can make a pretty big difference in the final inductance; if they're all bunched together, you get more inductance but lower efficiency, and if they're evenly spread out, the inductance is lower but the efficiency is higher. Not having a component tester, though, I had to come up with an alternate way to test inductances; the simplest way is to build a resonant circuit with a known-value (measured) capacitor and see what frequency it resonates at. With a decent oscilloscope, this should be a lot more accurate than a component tester.
@monalong8900
@monalong8900 Жыл бұрын
I have done that. The tolerance on the Capacitor and the accuracy of the frequency counter or Oscilloscope sets the tolerance of your final answer.
@ristomatti
@ristomatti 4 жыл бұрын
Inductors have been quite a mystery for me this far. Your excellent demonstrations helped a lot in understanding them better. This was likely the best practical intro to them I've seen. Keep up the great work, thanks!
@PinkeySuavo
@PinkeySuavo 7 ай бұрын
i still dont get what theyre used for tbh
@ristomatti
@ristomatti 7 ай бұрын
@@PinkeySuavo Me neither.
@stevensmart8868
@stevensmart8868 2 жыл бұрын
I've just started working on superconducting magnet coils as a technician. And asked the team leader about inductance, long story short your explanation is awesome.
@After_Tech_Industries
@After_Tech_Industries Жыл бұрын
One thing that you can also use for the winding of the inductor is "layered" enameled copper wire, it can handle more current at higher frequencies * layered enameled copper wire just means multiple enameled copper wires put side-by-side (aka in parallel) and then wrapped around the core; only electrically connected at the ends. Hope this helps!
@d614gakadoug9
@d614gakadoug9 Жыл бұрын
Layers in an inductor are not paralleled wires. They are physical layers, one on top of another. This is important because the number of layers influences the AC losses in the winding due to proximity effect. Each layer _could_ be made of paralleled strands.
@DocMicha
@DocMicha 4 жыл бұрын
Nice theoretical and practical demonstration. In the same manner I would like to have a look at chokes!
@gautamrao544
@gautamrao544 3 жыл бұрын
Loved that "if flyback were a person" thing. I wish I had a physics teacher like you 🙏 🤓👨
@formedpineapple2997
@formedpineapple2997 9 ай бұрын
Thank you. Very informational video. I am a complete rookie in electronics and I am just beginning to find the fun of this hobby. Thank you for your Lesson.
@richard180961
@richard180961 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic to see some real life practical examples of inductor usage. Inductors have always been a bit of a mystery to me. Love the analogy of a coiled spring.
@alext8828
@alext8828 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. The simple explanation of how an inductor works by using examples of things that are far and away more complex than a simple inductor seems counterintuitive.
@erikev
@erikev Жыл бұрын
One important comment from an old winder: *Always* start winding the wire from the middle and wind both ends separately. This way you dont have to thread a long wire so many times. The total length of wire to thread is reduced by x4.
@BlueSky-cy5nw
@BlueSky-cy5nw Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation of theory and good examples.
@imnewtothistuff
@imnewtothistuff 3 жыл бұрын
I built a 60 watt transistor stereo from Heath kit back in the day. I would bridge a 47 mf Disc capacitor across each speaker output To keep from hearing my neighbour talking on his CB radio through my speakers, It worked!
@lederhudler
@lederhudler 2 ай бұрын
I had the same comment that someone else made. With inductors, you increase the voltage, not the current. The maximum current is what you pass through the inductor while connected to the supply. When disconnected, the current decays, based on the resistance in the flyback circuit. The rate (aka speed of the decay) is related to the inductance/resistance time constant. The higher the resistance, the higher the voltage (and faster the decay). But again the current never exceeds the what it was passing at the instant before being disconnected. Without a flyback diode - the resistance is infinite - or whatever the rest of the connected circuit is, as parts begin to break down. A related phenomenon is that the high voltage can actually cause a spark, as the collapsing magnetic field attempts to maintain the current. When one unplugs a high inductive load - such as an iron or toaster - from the household mains, you will likely see a spark - that is the flyback voltage trying to dissipate the current.
@d614gakadoug9
@d614gakadoug9 Жыл бұрын
- probably already in the comments somewhere, but I'm not going to read over 600 comments to find out: The peak current at turn-off of an inductor can *_never_* exceed the current at the instant turn-off starts. This is a fundamental property of inductance. If a relay coil operates at, say 100 mA, the current at the instant of turn-off will be 100 mA and decline from there. For small relays a 1N4148 or 1N914 or similar diode is entirely satisfactory. If the coil current exceeds half an amp then you might go to something rated at 1 amp. I've used dual transistors in surface mount packages for driving relays. One transistor is used as the switch and the other is used as a diode (collector-base; the base-emitter diode has some better properties for some applications but small reverse breakdown voltage, typ. 6 or 7 volts for common types). This makes things very compact. ~~~ That HY-2 inductor core is a Micrometals Type 52 powdered iron material, or a counterfeit thereof.
@cjespers
@cjespers Жыл бұрын
That flyback person demo is awesome. Well done video. Thanks!
@musaayidenis7118
@musaayidenis7118 Жыл бұрын
Hello thanks very much for teaching I have learnt something new looking a head to more videos like this
@hamradiofun5527
@hamradiofun5527 Жыл бұрын
Looking at inductor's for antenna matching and came across this video. Very interesting especially about making them and the difference between the two with the same inductance. Tnx mate
@chuckholmes2075
@chuckholmes2075 3 жыл бұрын
the best inductor/inductance explanation since my days of electrical engineering at Tulane.
@Ibenbowlbowlah
@Ibenbowlbowlah Жыл бұрын
I studied this at university in New brunswick. The prof who taught the subject was very good explainer. so this video.
@cycadaacolyte6349
@cycadaacolyte6349 Жыл бұрын
As someone who's fried a few boards early on in my days of home building CnCs, this a huge resource.
@BillySugger1965
@BillySugger1965 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t need to overkill catch diodes. When sizing catch diodes, remember that current doesn’t increase with fly back. The inductor does what is needed to keep the previous current flowing briefly, however much voltage it takes to do that. So if your 70mA relay coil is switched off, it will continue to pass that 70mA briefly. A 1N4148 catch diode will handle that easily! And with your power inductor at 1A, a IN4001 will do the job just fine.
@jesusgranados3624
@jesusgranados3624 2 жыл бұрын
From the coil32 page......Another case is the inductor in the switching power supply. The commonly used ferrites have a relatively low value of saturation flux density (about 0.3 T), so in the power switching circuit the inductor is switched between the maximum value of the field when it almost gets a saturation and zero-field value, when it is demagnetized to a value of residual induction (curve [4]). As we can see the slope of the major axis of the ellipse 4 is much smaller than that of the ellipse 3. In other words, the magnetic permeability of the core in this mode is greatly reduced. The situation becomes worse if the choke core has DC bias (curve [5]). The major hysteresis loop of the real ferrite is more rectangular than on our schematic image and, in the end, the dynamic magnetic permeability of the power inductor on a ferrite ring falls to several units. As if there is no the ferrite! In the end, the inductive reactance of the inductor decreases, the current increases dramatically (which results in an even larger decrease in µ!), the key transistor heats up and burnout. The calculations of Coil32 for this choke give an absolutely wrong result. Because, we used to calculate the value of initial magnetic permeability, and in a real circuit, the permeability is two to three orders smaller. You will get the same situation if you will measure the relative permeability of the toroid by the trial winding. The solution is to use a ferrite core with the interrupted magnetic circuit. In the case of the ferrite ring, it is necessary to break it in half and then glue that two half with the non-magnetic gap. The major hysteresis loop of such a core becomes more sloping [2], the residual induction is much less [B'r], the effective magnetic permeability is also less than that of the core without a gap. However, the curve of magnetization [6] shows that the dynamic magnetic permeability of this inductor is much higher than that of similar, but with a core without a gap. It has permeability about 50..100. Coil32 also is unable to calculate this choke, since it does not take into account the non-magnetic gap. Another solution is the use of special rings for the power supply as powdered iron toroids (not ferrite). Such toroids can be found in pulse power supply units and motherboards of computers. The non-magnetic "gap" in such ring is distributed along its length. Conclusion. The Coil32 program calculates only low-current ferrite toroid coil working in low magnetic fields. For the power chokes calculation, it is necessary to use a completely different methodology.
@craxd1
@craxd1 2 жыл бұрын
In RF parlance, especially in the amplifier arena, capacitors and inductors are labeled as tank blocking capacitors which pass RF current and block DC, while the plate chokes block RF current and pass DC, unless they're making up the tuned resonant tank circuit, where you want the cap to charge and discharge, and the inductor to ring, forming the flywheel effect in class B and C amplifiers. Another choke is used off the load capacitor to ground, which is for safety if the plate cap fails, connecting the HV to the tank. This, of course, blows the fuse before allowing HV into the antenna circuit. However, that choke's ringing causes HV to appear across the tuning and load cap's plates, and they have to be rated for that. In the plate power circuit of tube amps, the cap passes the anode's RF to the tank circuit while blocking HV DC, and the RF plate choke blocks the RF from entering the HV power supply. It's like using two types of check valves in a hydraulic circuit, and very similar to a diode's action.
@BaronVonSTFU
@BaronVonSTFU 2 жыл бұрын
I work on refrigeration systems. We put vfds on the condenser motors a while back. They were blowing up motors left and right. Aside from the motors not being rated for vfds at the time (over a decade ago) they added these electric filters on the outputs of the vfds. I'm no electronics guy, but are those filters we added essentially just inductors for taking out the spikes like you mention in this video on the buck converters? The output of vfds are dc that mimic ac as far as I understand. Which isn't much.
@busman2000
@busman2000 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to re-iterate a previous comment. You are so easy to understand and don't leave anything out. Which a lot of Electro tech tutors have a tendency of doing.
@rt5hrnbfa304
@rt5hrnbfa304 Жыл бұрын
Best video about electromagnetics I've seen so far
@gsperanza07
@gsperanza07 3 жыл бұрын
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@kiranranjitkar2748
@kiranranjitkar2748 3 жыл бұрын
Your video & Demonstration has relief me from some misunderstanding the nature of inductor. Thanks for the video.
@WhisperWinds-jh8hj
@WhisperWinds-jh8hj 4 ай бұрын
Awesome ! I’m building a voltage current sensor for I2c bus 😅 .300 mA 😮 all going to be part of my oscilloscope / logic analyzer build
@ComedianDinger
@ComedianDinger 3 ай бұрын
Teach me how to do that brother
@MoltenSamurai
@MoltenSamurai 2 жыл бұрын
These ads are actually great. Most KZbinrs make the ad spots boring af, but these are hilarious
@OFF_169
@OFF_169 7 ай бұрын
Between the natural grown PCBs and the flyback "as a person" demonstration, you have earned my sub and like good sir. I don't often audibly laugh from youtube videos, let alone electronics related ones, but this one really got me. As a budding electronics enthusiast and (hopefully) future Electronics engineer, I hope to learn alot from this channel!
@sithembisothwala4670
@sithembisothwala4670 Жыл бұрын
Very informing!! I am in the process of learning more and indulging in projects involving inductors
@lincolnseloane1813
@lincolnseloane1813 3 жыл бұрын
You're very articulate...and make it nearly effortless for others grasp the content. I highly recommend your approach. You will make a great mathematics lecturer 👌
@amirrezafiroozi4080
@amirrezafiroozi4080 3 ай бұрын
One of the best videos I have ever watched on youtube! Thank you for sharing your knowledge so effectively xD
@jimle22
@jimle22 6 ай бұрын
This is the best video tutorial on Inductors I have seen thus far. Much appreciated, thanks.
@guilhermeaires2723
@guilhermeaires2723 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best video of concepts of inductor. I really undestand when you make analogy with spring. The diference aboult capacitor and inductor is very interresting. Thank You!
@ElectronicsCuriosities
@ElectronicsCuriosities 3 жыл бұрын
Finally I got proper knowledge about inductor and it's used nice video 👏👏 thoroughly practical enjoyed your video Thanks 👍😍
@khanqaiserster
@khanqaiserster 4 жыл бұрын
Best possible explanation of inductors I have ever came across.
@burtybasset4486
@burtybasset4486 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation. I mainly deal with AC, but your clarification of DC circuits is massively helpful. Small point of contention though regarding definitions, an inductor I believe doesn't so much "resist" current so much as "impede" it. The definition and distinction I was taught is that resistance is work done that produces heat, whereas impedance doesn't. But then I guess no matter the length of copper wire you are using it will have some inherent resistance to it. Great video!
@dotanuki3371
@dotanuki3371 2 жыл бұрын
impedance includes resistance. are you thinking of reactance?
@burtybasset4486
@burtybasset4486 2 жыл бұрын
@@dotanuki3371 Yes, both are included in the term impedance, but inductive reactance is not the same as resistance.
@TheUmaragu
@TheUmaragu Ай бұрын
Very nice explanation... I listened to this multiple times. Thanks a lot.
@DarrenHughes-Hybrid
@DarrenHughes-Hybrid Жыл бұрын
Before watching this video, I had a basic understand of inductance, coils, magnetic fields, etc., but now after watching this video, I not only feel I finally understand inductance, but how it's used and dealt with! Thank you!!
@mikex691
@mikex691 3 жыл бұрын
The best inductor video on KZbin!!!
@roamingwesty
@roamingwesty 3 жыл бұрын
I had to pause to comment, "oh my god," as you smashed LED, resistor and cap, and I'm an atheist. You are a Kiwi treasure. I salute you with subscription, sir.
@moonhowler667
@moonhowler667 Жыл бұрын
Just a grammar tip to help polish the old image: Apostrophe S after a noun denotes possession. "Inductor's" implies there's something that belongs to said inductor. For plural, just drop the apostrophe. "Inductors". You also don't need to capitalize after the ampersand. Best of luck to you
@charleswoods2996
@charleswoods2996 3 жыл бұрын
@bringer-of-change
@bringer-of-change 5 ай бұрын
When people.say they don't trust youtube to find knowledge.
@tonyrebeiro
@tonyrebeiro 2 ай бұрын
​@@bringer-of-changeThis too is part of the Scam, to justify and exonerate the role of the Bogus, rigged Education system.
@Anik_Biswas_Gamer
@Anik_Biswas_Gamer 22 күн бұрын
69likes🌚
@dradrigapatrick
@dradrigapatrick Жыл бұрын
How can i build something like that inductor tester? Am so much at the right place. This is the best ever tutorial after i wasted my two years on other channel to keep on feeling like quiting electronics.
@MedSou
@MedSou Жыл бұрын
*Finally, an inductor tutorial that makes sense* 👍👍👍👍👍
@simonruszczak5563
@simonruszczak5563 3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully explained. So electrically an indicator is like capacitor that has had its two parallel separate conductors shorted together at the end. And would become a capacitor again if "unshorted".
@sagerman6779
@sagerman6779 3 жыл бұрын
Automotive ignition systems use this principle to fire the spark plugs. In the old days they used mechanical points along with an ignition coil to open and close the circuit.
@DavidTLutz
@DavidTLutz 3 жыл бұрын
Love your presentation. I am glad that I am not the only one to notice the "black hole" in one's workshop that gobbles up all erratic kinetic objects never to be seen again. LOL. Like other commenters here, I have always been perplexed by inductors, but you make the concepts crystal clear. I guess the birds in NZ do not like PCB seeds which allows the PCBs to grow in the wild.
@standardbassbox
@standardbassbox 3 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT INFORMATION. Very good Presentation. Thanks A LOT.
@tradward
@tradward Жыл бұрын
It's PCB season here in Australia. I'll be heading to the hills to pick a few bags worth next weekend.
@ediposantos6574
@ediposantos6574 3 жыл бұрын
After inductance, the next most important property of inductors is it's saturation current. Basically when inductor reaches saturation current its inductances decreases to almost zero. This is the probable reason those inductors presented different results.
@vlogcity1111
@vlogcity1111 3 жыл бұрын
Does that mean its resistance drops as well? At the same time it reaches above saturation
@droomahbroo9291
@droomahbroo9291 2 жыл бұрын
This is by far the best sponsor acknowledgement I have ever seen :D
@Frco03
@Frco03 4 жыл бұрын
I am a starter mechatronic and stuff like this is really helpfull...not every proffessor explains stuff like this...love your content!
@monalong8900
@monalong8900 Жыл бұрын
The hammer demonstrates the flyback best. Swing the hammer with low force but when it hits and stops quickly it suddenly has torque greater than what you swung it with. When the current in an Inductor stops suddenly it creates a higher voltage.
@majorpygge-phartt2643
@majorpygge-phartt2643 10 ай бұрын
That's why you always connect a diode across a relay coil, or solenoid etc. when switching it with a transistor other wise the flyback would soon destroy the transistor when it switched off.
@master_shake
@master_shake 4 жыл бұрын
THAT PCB INTRO WAS GENIUS!!!!
@rofiiqyla
@rofiiqyla 3 жыл бұрын
JLCPCB needs to pay this man more
@LordPhobos6502
@LordPhobos6502 Жыл бұрын
Your examples of flyback at 5:15 and 5:30 are... absolutely perfect 😎❤👍
@Theo0x89
@Theo0x89 4 жыл бұрын
A better analogy for the stored energy is the kinetic energy of a moving body, because inductors give inertia to electric current. Interruption of the circuit (creating a voltage spike) corresponds to collision of the moving body with an obstacle (exerting a high force for a short time). A compressed spring is an analogy for a charged capacitor. Movement created by the released spring corresponds to discharge current from a capacitor.
@vicruzr
@vicruzr 3 жыл бұрын
Those are the best mechanical analogs. Add a dashpot (shock absorber) as the mechanical analog for a resistor and you can visualize RLC circuits as masses, springs, and dashpots - or vice versa. One good example would be examining the response of a suspension sytem to a bump in the road. The tire/wheel would be the mass (inductor) connected to the spring (capacitor) and dashpot (resistor). The damped system can then be analyzed as an RLC circuit responding to a step input.
@Pemmanator
@Pemmanator 3 жыл бұрын
@@vicruzr wow😳 wonderful analogies. Please where can I get more of these analogies (any detailed basic e-book at all🙏 )for better understanding of circuits, bit by bit to complex level.
@ronniepirtlejr2606
@ronniepirtlejr2606 4 жыл бұрын
I have that very same component tester. It doesn't work too bad. The LCD screen lost its seal on mine shortly after I bought it, but still works. Every once in awhile it will give some erratic readings. I bought mine and assembled it. I had to come up with my own case for it.
@genebartle7715
@genebartle7715 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and information, thank you very much! FYI, I haven't sanded or burned the insulation from this kind of wire for many years now. Modern coated wire is made to solder through, at least on all the wire I've dealt with. Just hold the soldering iron and solder on it for a few seconds and it works like magic, instantly tinned.
@d614gakadoug9
@d614gakadoug9 Жыл бұрын
Magnet wire insulated with a nylon/polyester blend can be soldered without stripping. Lots of magnet wire cannot and has to be mechanically stripped or striped in a "salt pot" stripper at very high temperature. One of my clients, which made large iron core transformers in house, used an oxyacetylene torch. If you set the flame to oxidizing (more oxygen than needed for the acetylene) and put the wire in the oxidizing part of the flame, the insulation is cleanly stripped. You can't do this with something like a propane torch. It will simply burn the insulation leaving a mess that still has to be removed mechanically, though more easily than unburned insulation. I used to buy magnet wire from a supplier to motor rewinding shops. They didn't stock the stuff with solder-through insulation because it isn't robust enough for industrial motors.
@abiodunilori8647
@abiodunilori8647 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for concrete simple and clear teaching on inductor.
@demef758
@demef758 3 ай бұрын
5:43: "Placing a diode backwards to the power source across the inductor/coil allows the flyback to flow back through the diode when power is disconnected from the inductor/coil." While the sentiment is correct, the description is not. Inductor voltage "flies back" as the result of a discontinuity of CURRENT, not "power." V = L*dI/dt, where dI/dt is theoretically infinite when the current suddenly is disconnected. Inductors will do all they can to prevent current discontinuity by the voltage suddenly flipping trying to find a place for the CURRENT to go to. That's what the diode does. No current can flow through the diode when it is biased off, but during this voltage flip, the diode is suddenly forward biased, giving the current a place to go. If you put a current probe on the diode, you would see current changing smoothly from its DC value, then ramp downward with a ramp shape that is I(t) = integral (Vdiode/L)*dt until the current goes to zero, and which point the inductor energy (1/2 * L*I^2) has been dissipated by the diode. You do a disservice to your viewers by interchanging current and power. They are completely different animals!
@black56night
@black56night Жыл бұрын
Gotta love your Widlariser at 5:30. 👍
@lonewarrior3257
@lonewarrior3257 3 жыл бұрын
Best explanation of inductor Thank you very much.
@schaltnetzteil495
@schaltnetzteil495 9 ай бұрын
Nice video! I especially love the JLCPCB advertisement. I also love how you showed how flyback would be if it was a person.
@msf7168
@msf7168 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome... waiting for next inductor video that it can cause issue in circuit with practical and theoretical explanation...
@NTF-zb9wi
@NTF-zb9wi 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your flyback to a spring example! I need to find out the opposite of what you showed after that, however... I need to figure out how to best protect any other circuitry while, at the same time, getting the highest possible flyback voltage. It doesn't help that my limited amount of electronics background is close to 50 years old ~ with a LOT of "water under the bridge" during that time... (I'm having to go back & start over from scratch via youtube, etc.) Fortunately, I DO remember enough to have a healthy respect for HV & how to discharge scavenged flybacks, capacitors, & condensers without "knocking myself into the next county ~ if not the next life..." I'm wanting to set up at least 3, horizontal shaft, Briggs & Stratton 4 stroke motors with to run off of HV produced HHO on demand. These motors, in turn, would spin "smart drive" stator/rotor motors, rewired to be generators, with a bit of the output getting diverted to charge the flyback system for HV/LC... Any suggestions on how to protect the other circuitry withOUT reducing the flyback voltage???
@vagishgpatil3013
@vagishgpatil3013 2 жыл бұрын
That's one of the best demonstration of flyback ..
@sledzeppelin
@sledzeppelin 3 жыл бұрын
This helped me with inductors more than any other video I've seen. Thank you!
@maurosobreira8695
@maurosobreira8695 3 жыл бұрын
Very good Intro to inductors! Best in helping visualize Flyback effect! Thanks!
@herzogsbuick
@herzogsbuick 8 ай бұрын
this is my first time watching your channel, and man, you didn't hold anything back with picking wild PCBs, that was fantastic!
@mkepler5861
@mkepler5861 2 жыл бұрын
thank you, a very good tutorial on inductors mike
@davidharms3562
@davidharms3562 4 жыл бұрын
Best inductor video on KZbin! Thanks!
@sunnysurwade464
@sunnysurwade464 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I know all this at my university, it is so clear and visual thank u👍👍👍
@boostedbuiltgarage
@boostedbuiltgarage 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't even searching for this topic but I'm glad I found it, super interesting 👌
@MiniLuv-1984
@MiniLuv-1984 4 жыл бұрын
That was such a clear and concise description and explanation as well as providing many useful pointers. Thanks.
@ozgemmo3445
@ozgemmo3445 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent and extremely thorough presentation (technical content and instrument results) plus totally understandable physical speech and phraseology!!! Plus, plus, plus - no bloody annoying and distracting music!!! Previously subscribed to your site - cheers from Down Under.
@yehudacern5311
@yehudacern5311 3 жыл бұрын
The diode current rating only needs to slightly exceed the coil's dc current, as it is that coil current that will continue to flow (briefly) through the diode, when the current source is disconnected.
@diptree
@diptree Жыл бұрын
Inductors store energy in airgaps. Magnetic field energy density u = B^2/(2*mu) (where B is the magnetic induction in the medium and mu is the permeability. The actual energy stored is therefore u times the volume of airgap. Using ferrite is like short-circuiting the flux path (if mu is very large, u will be very small, defeating the purpose of inductors which is to store energy), so it is not recommended (except for very low currents). Powdered iron cores distribute this airgap over the length of the core. You should use AL value published by manufacturers to decide on the number of turns (rather than use permeability and geometry to decide on the number of turns, for more accuracy). Powdered iron cores are not good for very high (>50kHz) frequencies, and become lossy. So ferrite EE cores with airgap is the way to go for high-frequency power inductor. One could even use plain air core inductors at very high frequencies, and use litz wire to reduce eddy current losses). Also, other than air-core inductors, be aware of the saturation of cores at high currents. Hope this helps. Inductors remain a mystery due to the poor way it is taught in engineering books and schools. As a practicing power electronics engineer for more than three decades, I see this mystery continue, even with experienced engineers.
@d614gakadoug9
@d614gakadoug9 Жыл бұрын
Powdered iron generally performs quite acceptably up to 200 kHz or so, depending on what you are doing. You DO have to understand what you are doing to make the judgement call. I've used the very core material used in the video (Micrometals type 52, green with one blue face) as the output inductor in half-bridge supplies operating at 100 kHz (full cycle, so ripple at 200 kHz) at up to 1 kW. But I've resorted to vastly more expensive molybdenum permalloy powder cores for a non-isolated buck converter at about 500 W, iirc (client wanted to push my original design to about double the power originally intended). I used Magnetics, Inc's KoolMu cores in the 100 kHz power factor correction stage of a 150 W switcher and a 1 kW. It's more expensive than powdered iron but a good deal cheaper than MPP, with pretty decent properties. (If I were doing that PFC for the 1 kW supply today I'd probably do it as two interleaved converters.) None of the supplies I mentioned used forced air cooling. Years ago I heard Lloyd Dixon, a name you may well recognize, say "Most engineers know about resistors. Some of them know something about capacitors. Not many know much about inductors." (not an actual word for word quotation, but close). When the maker of this video was talking about using a diode across the coil of an inductor it became clear that he didn't understand inductors. The diode would, of course, never be subjected to current higher than the coil operating current. That's as fundamental as it gets in understanding inductors.
@sambut87
@sambut87 4 жыл бұрын
Inductors are useful for buck-boost converters too. They take advantage of the voltage spikes to produce higher outputs than the input voltage.
@sambut87
@sambut87 3 жыл бұрын
@Fred Garvin how come?
@sambut87
@sambut87 3 жыл бұрын
@Fred Garvin So how do you get a higher output voltage then? As far as I know it occurs when you cut the supply to the inductor, causing its field to collapse and it generates a back emf. The duty cycle is to regulate the output voltage and with higher switching frequencies you can get higher voltages from smaller inductors because faster current disruptions cause higher back emfs.
@sambut87
@sambut87 3 жыл бұрын
@Fred Garvin boost needs the back emf of the inductor that occurs when you disconnect the power and it tries to keep the current going.
@majorpygge-phartt2643
@majorpygge-phartt2643 10 ай бұрын
This is interesting as I've tried building a switching PSU using a chip maker's application circuit diagram, but it doesn't work, and from various tests it looks like the chip's oscillator is running but there's no output from the main switching transistor, and it's a step down series regulator circuit, so it makes me wonder if I've used the wrong coil, it's the right inductance near enough, but possibly the wrong core material. Or could it be yet another circuit I've tried building where the design looks ok on paper but it's not been properly tested, and while that seems highly unlikely believe me I have known that to happen with other stuff I've tried building to someone else's design and I've had to alter it to get it to work. And the coil I tried using was a quite large toroidal one from a major supplier but it could still be unsuitable, but I'm not that familiar with switching supplies as they're far more technical than the more basic linear series regulator.
@arletpaz8010
@arletpaz8010 3 жыл бұрын
you just killed me over here with the god dammed spring bouncing all over the place LOL good one.
@majmoomahrooyan2054
@majmoomahrooyan2054 8 ай бұрын
Awesome - Awesome-Awesome-Awesome-Awesome-- I do like your Method in teaching
@garymucher9590
@garymucher9590 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting for sure. Nice to see the factual results with the scope, between the different inductors. Thumbs Up!
@joetu6520
@joetu6520 Жыл бұрын
Excellent details but I had no idea what is an inductors or do either than magnets?
@stevethompson7059
@stevethompson7059 3 жыл бұрын
Sir you are a genius at explanation and teaching. Your video was so clearly done and while interesting. I applaud you. Well done.
@awizardalso
@awizardalso 4 жыл бұрын
I always used a diode wired backwards across the relay coil terminals to prevent a voltage spike effecting the circuitry elsewhere in the project.
@InssiAjaton
@InssiAjaton 4 жыл бұрын
Using the diode in parallel with the relay coil slows down the release of the contacts. If the contacts carry some considerable current, you mau get an arc that damages the contacts. Most of the time I make a compromise between the kick-back voltage and the speed by adding some resistance (up to the same as the relay coil resistance is) in series with the diode. By the way, the relay coil also presents at the release time to the diode loop energy stored in the spring that opens the contacts.
@victortitov1740
@victortitov1740 4 жыл бұрын
A good way to speed up the release is to wire up a bidirectional tvs diode rated to a voltage your switch will withstand, in parallel to the relay coil. Most of the time, you'll be using mosfets to control relays, and mosfets will have that tvs diode "built-in", so to say. Look for "avalanche current" spec in the datasheet: if it is greater than the current consumed by the relay, you don't need to add anything, the mosfet will safely absorb the energy stored by the coil, and dissipate it as heat.
@InssiAjaton
@InssiAjaton 4 жыл бұрын
@@victortitov1740 Fine as far as it goes. I am uneasy about, say 24 V relay producing a maybe 300 V kick corresponding to a likely FET avalanche rating. A list of different "safe" voltages has several confusing numbers, of which I have derived 48 V as my favorite (just below the 50 V list value).
@RogerBarraud
@RogerBarraud 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, Flyback is specific to CRT (TV/monitor) displays .... at the end of a scan line (for the horizontal deflection), the spot "flies back" rapidly to be in position for the next scan line. TV's and monitors used the rapid collapse of current and the resulting voltage spike to charge a high-voltage circuit via a diode... thus recovering a large portion of the energy that was stored in the deflection circuit's inductances. What you are seeing is Back EMF (ElectroMotive Force)... which is *used* by Flyback circuits. See Lenz's Law for more. And be prepared for some Differential Calculus :-)
@ampedandvolted
@ampedandvolted 4 жыл бұрын
The PCBs growing in the forest like mushrooms were great
@Schematix
@Schematix 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. I try to keep my sponsorship segments entertaining & fresh :)
@gustinian
@gustinian 4 жыл бұрын
Copied from Marco Reps :-(
@twentycentpiece
@twentycentpiece 4 жыл бұрын
@@gustinian Nah. Marco Reps can only harvest capacitors where he lives, PCB's don't grow in that climate
@thomastruant8837
@thomastruant8837 4 жыл бұрын
Wait you guys find components in your forests my forests only grow meth labs and tires
@jebsjohn6104
@jebsjohn6104 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomastruant8837 Indiana?
@jjones7837
@jjones7837 3 жыл бұрын
Ok that ad was great. Got me.
@court2379
@court2379 4 жыл бұрын
Ideas for other videos: I would like to better understand inductor saturation, and see if we could show that it eddie losses is why one worked better than the other. How to select low cost capacitors for high output induction heaters (high current applications). Using a microcontroller to monitor and control an induction heater, frequency matching and to protect the mosfets. How to test if mosfets are still good, and general trouble shooting of SM power supplies.
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