How is SVC CHAOS different on Playstation 2? PS2 / XBox to Steam Comparison - Many Changes

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How is SVC CHAOS different on Playstation 2 PS2? Comparison Video 2005 PS2 to 2024 Release
SNK vs Capcom was released on xbox original and on PS2.
Here are a few things that differ between the PS2 version and the 2024 Steam version.
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@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
*Interesting to see these differences. Survival Mode and Infinite Continues would be nice to have in 2024* 😀 Next Video kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJrFgJ99ndCVq9k
@AWMonopolyMan
@AWMonopolyMan Ай бұрын
I could certainly see the latter happening sooner than the former to be fair.
@GamerGee
@GamerGee Ай бұрын
They always go cheap. They take the Roms and release them. They don’t add cool stuff like an arranged soundtrack cd quality vocals etc etc
@Slayerthecrow
@Slayerthecrow Ай бұрын
2:03 Man, I need my glasses for this one.
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
🤓
@SeelkadoomandJokic00
@SeelkadoomandJokic00 Ай бұрын
I like the slow moves. Gives it a lot of impact.
@jediknightgeo
@jediknightgeo Ай бұрын
Agreed
@jeremyhall2727
@jeremyhall2727 Ай бұрын
Me too
@J3ss4u
@J3ss4u Ай бұрын
they sound so satisfying
@theedwardian
@theedwardian Ай бұрын
It balances things out for the addition of Samurai Showdown characters
@shadowopsairman1583
@shadowopsairman1583 Ай бұрын
It reminds me of Ryu's Shin Shoryuken in SF3, it has more definition of being felt
@Original_Katros
@Original_Katros Ай бұрын
I'd really like to know what is it with PS2 ports of SNK games having colour edit and subsequent modern versions losing it. That and the fact the original port had survival mode and the new one doesn't baffles me... I don't like it when a fighting game only has arcade and training and calls it a day, I hardly play online.
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
sometimes changes are good and other things aren't. I think cause the 2024 release focused on the arcade version which did not have survival so it went unnoticed.
@Original_Katros
@Original_Katros Ай бұрын
@@AcidGlow Yeah that's one thing that's gotten me tired of arcade ports, just having versions that lack content of the console releases feels cheap. It's why I worry that if we do get a Capcom Vs SNK collection that Capcom will just choose the arcade versions and we won't get half the content.
@mikeg2491
@mikeg2491 Ай бұрын
Color edit in 2024 would be so much more fun nowadays too because you could show off your creations
@AWMonopolyMan
@AWMonopolyMan Ай бұрын
@@AcidGlowArcade and AES (which is why we got AES’s training mode specifically).
@AWMonopolyMan
@AWMonopolyMan Ай бұрын
⁠@@Original_Katros”Lacking content of the console releases”, but this version is based partially on a console release, AES (and also PS2/Xbox to a lesser extent with its hidden character selection method).
@HiTechLoLife
@HiTechLoLife Ай бұрын
I still have to wonder why it was Xbox exclusive in the US, considering Europe did get a PS2 version.
@Rei_Tatekei
@Rei_Tatekei Ай бұрын
Sony of America was anti 2D back then so games had to sell in bundles like KOF 02/03 or not at all
@000mjd
@000mjd Ай бұрын
Sony America has a restriction to only sprite based games that werent part of a collection so was imposible to release the game in USA Sony Europe never had these problems so publishing the game there never was an issue
@felixcruz5556
@felixcruz5556 Ай бұрын
​@Rei_Tatekei i hated scea for that
@hammond8692
@hammond8692 Ай бұрын
@@felixcruz5556 I hate that Sony's policy slightly ruined the 32 bit era, it should have been a time full of amazing 2D sprite work that probably would have still held up today, as well as 3D games, but because of that policy we have a vast amount of games with very poor 3D graphics from that era instead that, while impressive at the time, look absolutely awful now, some of them still look decent and a lot still play well, but we could have had so many more fantastic 2D games too, I feel like they forced the home console market in to almost exclusively 3D games far too soon
@felixcruz5556
@felixcruz5556 Ай бұрын
@@hammond8692 my point exactly.
@mgbenz
@mgbenz Ай бұрын
The Steam version is a direct port of the arcade game running on AES mode (a.k.a console mode). That's why it only has 4 continues and has barebones practice options.
@RigbyIsTheMan
@RigbyIsTheMan Ай бұрын
So we got a worse version?
@HypnoSwag
@HypnoSwag Ай бұрын
​@@RigbyIsTheMan Most re-released arcade games are just emulation nowadays. The new MVC Collection will be arcade version emulation as well.
@Monhamd1000
@Monhamd1000 Ай бұрын
Why not the PS2/Xbox versions?
@PedroAndrade25
@PedroAndrade25 Ай бұрын
@@Monhamd1000 Because they're lazy. It's easier to just emulate the arcade version than port from consoles.
@NewGabeOrder
@NewGabeOrder Ай бұрын
Even confusing is that there's no visible credit counter. If they are going to do it right, make sure unlimited continues are a thing before removing the credit counter. That's how it worked in Pulstar's and Blazing Star's AES modes.
@ewrooney
@ewrooney Ай бұрын
Some additional things about the early console ports. The transparency effects can be disabled by changing the graphics setting from "normal" to "arcade". The OG XBOX ver. does have the Red Arremer and Athena transformations. The OG XBOX ver. have a different announcer from both the arcade and PS2 ver. of the game, he sound very similar to the NEO-GEO Battle Coliseum announcer. I also tested the supposed changes listed in the article from Tips and Tricks. Kyo can 1000% still juggle from qcf+K,K into Orochi Nagi, Geese can 1000% still do more than 4 loops of his infinite I'm guessing the tester at the time didn't have a better pad or stick because I tried it on an XBOX controller S and had trouble doing it at all but switched to a stick and got 5 loops pretty quick. That Earthquake special move looks the same to me and I didn't learn Zero's infinite well enough to test if its actually harder.
@Komusho
@Komusho Ай бұрын
Steam version in a nutshell: A f*cking ROM in a f*cking emulator
@prodbyhostile
@prodbyhostile Ай бұрын
Except the emulator version has unlimited continues
@usernameRika
@usernameRika Ай бұрын
​@@prodbyhostileplayed in AES you only get 4 continues.
@milosmisic89
@milosmisic89 Ай бұрын
​@@prodbyhostileneogeo games have 2 modes in every emulator. Mvs and aes. Mvs is arcade aes is home conversion. I prefer aes because you got proper menus, settings and extra modes. Downside is only 4 continues
@yoman8027
@yoman8027 Ай бұрын
@@usernameRika But you get to save the game. Whenever you load your game, your continues revert to four, so you have unlimited continues, in practice.
@sanjijito185
@sanjijito185 Ай бұрын
Thats pretty much what code mystics develops, an all round emulator, they dont even touch the game ROM
@Zachary_Sweis
@Zachary_Sweis Ай бұрын
Yeah I am kinda sick of the arcade versions of games being re-released without the console content.
@jeremyhall2727
@jeremyhall2727 Ай бұрын
Same here.. they was too lazy to add stuff
@Ifalvarado
@Ifalvarado Ай бұрын
Even the data files for the steam version is the exact neo geo rom content from the chipsets
@TrueBlueMajikDewd
@TrueBlueMajikDewd Ай бұрын
Yeah. Last great fighting game port was Street Fighter 3 Online Edition.
@crimsonframe47
@crimsonframe47 Ай бұрын
​@@TrueBlueMajikDewdyou should check Guilty Gear XX Accent Core +R. It's the last decent fg port for modern system with a tons of contents and improvements. Also MvC Collection is on the way, I hope Capcom doing it well for this.
@XCharizard100
@XCharizard100 Ай бұрын
Can you give me more examples? Genuine questions
@NewGabeOrder
@NewGabeOrder Ай бұрын
0:43 That's in the PAL regions. The Japanese PS2 port displays "2003" instead, as the arcade, Neo Geo and Japanese PS2 versions all came out on the same year.
@PoderOtaku
@PoderOtaku Ай бұрын
The same problem with Cacpom Fighting Collection I waited for years to get a fully complete edition of Darkstalkers 3 to steam with the PS1, PS2 and PSP extras, but they gave us arcade version with less characters no extra modes, it's sad but the PS1 version is the most complete, even nowadays with original character mode, extra option mode, ending gallery, system change mode, and all the characters in every single system change mode, the ps2 version had one extra secret character called Dee and the PSP has an alternative mode and extra stage, but neither PS2 or PSP got all the stuff the PS1 version had, it's just sad to know that the best version of a game released several times is in 1997.
@jeremyhall2727
@jeremyhall2727 Ай бұрын
It's weird how they didn't just added all that in one game at the end
@markg5480
@markg5480 Ай бұрын
Do you not realise that the reason console versions back in the day received more content was due to the port not being arcade perfect? Companies had to give you extra. Players like myself back then wanted arcade perfect ports over lots of extras. As for PS1 Darkstalkers, it's not "complete". It's missing frames, animations, and it has loading times. Why would Capcom put that into a pack?
@rukayuki6332
@rukayuki6332 Ай бұрын
​@@markg5480 I don't know about game engines but how the ps1 version rom that is over 20x bigger file than the CPS2 file could be worse and has less frames? I also don't know about pixel perfect and stuff but for me casual player, the ps1 version plays exactly like the arcade version in gameplay and animation.
@PoderOtaku
@PoderOtaku Ай бұрын
@@rukayuki6332 That's exactly the point I consider most of PS1 ports of capcom 95% faithful to their arcade versions in gameplay and we casual players don't even notice that diference most of the time, the darkstalkers 3 had 3 arcade versions, vampire savior, savior 2 and hunter 2 and those 3 are missing 3 characters in each one the ps1 had those 3 versions in one game with all the missing characters, and for me is unbelievable that capcom would put the missing characters versions instead a more complete version, also the loading argument doesn't work since that apply only in PS1 hardware, even the PS1 emulation has no loading screen time, it just appear and disappear and doesn't last 30 seconds like it was on PS1 hardware. Most fans are casual and not competitive pro players, so the basic is to give all the extras we wanted.
@-castradomis-1773
@-castradomis-1773 Ай бұрын
PS2 version is probably overall the best version. It has hidden modes/options, huge art gallery, Dee, the arcade versions of every game in the series, plus you can unlock the complete roster in Vampire Saviour/Hunter-effectively turning them into Darkstalkers 3.
@lightwarrior7091
@lightwarrior7091 Ай бұрын
They sold us A ROM WITH NO CHANGES. I'm gonna stay with fightcade fuck this
@jeremyhall2727
@jeremyhall2727 Ай бұрын
😂 they did the most laziest thing they could.
@KimSamaVideos
@KimSamaVideos Ай бұрын
We're forced to play the AES version which is why we only have 4 credits
@4501Kevin
@4501Kevin Ай бұрын
​@@KimSamaVideosand the game is already hard to pass with 3 coins for me thats imposible
@sammyramirez6869
@sammyramirez6869 Ай бұрын
​@@jeremyhall2727its not lazy only thing missing is survival and color edit they more than likely dont have the source code for the ps2/xbox port
@jeremyhall2727
@jeremyhall2727 Ай бұрын
@@sammyramirez6869 No it's lazy.. they could ported the PS2 version. Emulate it like how they didn't for this version. Yeah 🤣 don't have it huh.
@PikangsFutaba
@PikangsFutaba Ай бұрын
Yeah, is very stupid that the current re-release has the game on NeoGeo AES mode (and AES version of the game has 4 credits... ONE that must be used to start to play, the other 3 are for continues... the worst part of this is the fact that the credits remaining are hidden compared to the original NeoGeo AES release. Edit: There's a SECOND unique difference between OG Xbox vs all other releases... a different system voice (probably the one from NeoGeo Battle Coliseum).
@danchavyn
@danchavyn Ай бұрын
The movelist is move visible on PS2 version.
@Monhamd1000
@Monhamd1000 Ай бұрын
I hate to say it but the Steam release is pretty inferior.
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
all it's really missing is survival mode and color edit. 2024 has online while the older versions cannot be played online (as easy). I'm just glad it's available to a wider audience now.
@mbz6272
@mbz6272 Ай бұрын
Agreed
@MrDmoney156
@MrDmoney156 Ай бұрын
@@AcidGlow well Xbox version got Xbox Live for that and with Insignia being a thing nowadays, people can play the console ports online with Xemu emulator with insignia installed.
@Juan_Pablo_81
@Juan_Pablo_81 Ай бұрын
It seems to me that the Steam version is actually the Arcade version. The lack of extra content, absent Survival mode, the Gallery is outside of the actual game and Limited credits just like the AES Neogeo settings ... Steam = Arcade (What a rip off)
@jeremyhall2727
@jeremyhall2727 Ай бұрын
Yes it is 🤷🏾‍♀️ I wonder why they just didn't do the PS2 version
@MrDmoney156
@MrDmoney156 Ай бұрын
@@jeremyhall2727 probably lost/deleted the source code, typical of japanese game companies as usual 🤦‍♂
@jeremyhall2727
@jeremyhall2727 Ай бұрын
@@MrDmoney156 I don't believe it.. they always say that.
@ShadowSumac
@ShadowSumac Ай бұрын
Eh, I take it. Beter for it to be available as this, rather than being locked on Arcades and old consoles.
@sullysuvann1380
@sullysuvann1380 Ай бұрын
Glad I still got mine original copy xbox
@docnom
@docnom Ай бұрын
You got some $$ there
@4501Kevin
@4501Kevin Ай бұрын
You lucky my bro take care that gem
@FelipeVerdugodaSilva
@FelipeVerdugodaSilva Ай бұрын
Damn dude, you really love this game, lol. I'm a SNK maniac but even though I like it, the flaws made me drop it really quick hahaha
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
I like this and art of fighting 2. NGBC is alright but not a fan of the roster or game speed
@doomedspacemarine5076
@doomedspacemarine5076 Ай бұрын
What is a good snk game to get for steam, KOF 13?
@FelipeVerdugodaSilva
@FelipeVerdugodaSilva Ай бұрын
@@doomedspacemarine5076 That is a good start, yeah. Or KOFs 98 / 2002 UM
@NewGabeOrder
@NewGabeOrder Ай бұрын
2:55 Like the PS4 port of Fatal Fury: Mark of the Wolves, I believe you must press the Confirm button to continue or the Cancel button to subtract one second from the continue countdown.
@ElSandwich777
@ElSandwich777 Ай бұрын
If this was 2002 people would be more upset that the port isn’t Arcade faithful. Swings and roundabouts.
@Xerzene
@Xerzene Ай бұрын
Mmmhh idk maybe cuz this lacks content from the console release? It also looks worse somehow
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
To me it's fine. I wanted online features, if they had no online then I would not have bought it. I would really want a balance patch though.
@ElSandwich777
@ElSandwich777 Ай бұрын
@@Xerzene I just think it’s pretty funny is all. I remember when this game first released in 2003, and the biggest issue at the time was that it was not an arcade perfect adaption. It was something that plagued so many console releases at that time. It’s far less of an issue today because arcades have been on the wane since the onset of certain social events. I bought the game brand new for Xbox anyway because I didn’t care about the Arcade accuracy, I just thought it was cool that there were SNK and Capcom characters fighting each other. I should note that while I am a little sad that the Color Edit and Survival Mode were not included, I’m at least grateful they cared enough about the game to give us additional options to preserve it.
@granixo
@granixo Ай бұрын
That was usally a complain regarding performance and graphics, but ever since the 3DO and SSF2T, arcade-perfect ports of 2D games have been possible. Besides, the PS2 port does include the option to make the graphics look just like the Arcade version.
@GamerGee
@GamerGee Ай бұрын
5:10 ps2 uses studio vocals 5:21 2024 uses the neo geo arcade cart samples. The ps2 port is better. Cd quality vocals. 44.1khz not 32k
@aleksiremesart
@aleksiremesart Ай бұрын
Used to play the PS2 version a ton back in the day, interesting to see it had surprisingly many differences from the arcade original. The 2024 port seems to also have noticeable input lag, at least on the Switch. Don’t have a real way to test it and not sure if Steam or PS4 have the same issue, but it feels a lot less responsive than before.
@MakotoTsuguri
@MakotoTsuguri Ай бұрын
Yet another example of superior home console releases being tossed aside for arcade versions. This is why I skipped on Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection. I still support this game regardless, but I ain't gonna be blind to the facts. I just hope that if Neo Geo Battle Colosseum get a new port, they'll choose the HD remastered games from 360/PS3.
@Zontar82
@Zontar82 Ай бұрын
Same here those 3d stages areawesome
@TheTrueBro
@TheTrueBro Ай бұрын
Nah the Atomiswave versions had way better backgrounds. Those generic 3D things they added are meh. Only thing they would have to fix are the long loading times from the arcade.
@Jahn_Pah_Jonz
@Jahn_Pah_Jonz Ай бұрын
There was other versions of battle colosseum besides the arcade and ps2 versions?
@MangorushZ
@MangorushZ Ай бұрын
​@@TheTrueBroWrong.
@jeremyhall2727
@jeremyhall2727 Ай бұрын
I fully understand that 🙏🏾
@brunoramos85rj
@brunoramos85rj Ай бұрын
Conratulation man, great video. You have too much patience to do that.
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
Well I've done the same thing with alot of games/characters I'm interested in. Just to look at more things about the game 🙂
@Essu_
@Essu_ Ай бұрын
PS2 version is an actual port, Steam version is an arcade rom running in an emulator.
@iorijericho
@iorijericho Ай бұрын
I hate when the re-releases just are EMU+ROM based on the NeoGeo AES version. Why they don't release the console versions? Remember KOF NESTS for PS2. For those collection they portayed the Dreamcast versions, not only the NeoGeo AES ones.
@EmptyKingdoms
@EmptyKingdoms Ай бұрын
The move list in PS2 seemed so much better, the art gallery was rocking, but the 2024 art gallery playing Ryu's anime hadouken theme was awesome.
@znmrtns
@znmrtns Ай бұрын
I really dig the 2024 version. I doubt they would do it, but I would a vs. cpu option on two player mode and a survival mode
@gzsfrk
@gzsfrk Ай бұрын
Life bar is different. PS2/Xbox version is semi-transparent. Arcade version is simulated transparency using dithering.
@ShadowJerry1998
@ShadowJerry1998 Ай бұрын
7:12 Can someone please translate the dialogue between Athena and Red Arremer? 🤔
@TsutomuXD
@TsutomuXD Ай бұрын
She says: "Re... Red Arremer? I... I won't lose, no matter who is my rival." and he just do some grunts
@0DlNN
@0DlNN Ай бұрын
​@@TsutomuXDvery nice, even she is worried about him. I would like this conversation in the steam version...
@DiegoSilva-lc8pv
@DiegoSilva-lc8pv Ай бұрын
OMG PS2 version is better than the 2024 version
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
depends on what you are looking for. survival mode is extra content but I dont like the sprite changes. I'd rather have 2024 online modes than play alone on PS2.
@TwinbeeMint
@TwinbeeMint Ай бұрын
The PS2 is the easy one to hear Zero (Z) voices
@JoshuaLowe-ci3wo
@JoshuaLowe-ci3wo Ай бұрын
1:12 That sounds like Geese Howard's theme And Geese is in the game! That theme should have played during his ending
@Jahn_Pah_Jonz
@Jahn_Pah_Jonz Ай бұрын
Meh. I got tired of his theme; they put it in almost game. I like his theme from Fatal Fury 3 more.
@truecauseofchaos
@truecauseofchaos Ай бұрын
Great video! I was around as they were ripping the arcade ROM; playing WIPs and showly watching the emulators play more and more. I did buy it in Japanese on PS2 also. Really surprised to see a 2024 re-release to be fair; would have loved an updated KOF Orochi collection instead!
@lordvega3112
@lordvega3112 Ай бұрын
Steam version looks much more pixelated than the PS2.
@chrisb9179
@chrisb9179 Ай бұрын
Last night I beat Mr Karate using Hugo. This morning my palms are still sweating.
@nathanbalazonbautista418
@nathanbalazonbautista418 Ай бұрын
There is also different in the Western Xbox release. The announcer was replaced with John Hulaton, same announcer from KOF '94 Re-Bout and Neogeo Battle Coliseum in that version, but only in some regions but Japan.
@CarlosAsRayMax
@CarlosAsRayMax Ай бұрын
Fun Facts, For the Japanese Version on PS2, it shows “Press Start Button” on the intro, and the SVC Chaos logo looks more clean and not pixelated.
@probablyjinxed
@probablyjinxed Ай бұрын
ugh i’ll miss the athena/red arremer transformations dude, that change upset me the most tbh 😭
@Drumtech08
@Drumtech08 Ай бұрын
That was the Street Fighter V animated series theme on the gallery section. Nice touch
@ergastolo4281
@ergastolo4281 Ай бұрын
I think that instead of the AES version Code Mystic should've used the MVS one... Just input the credits with a button and you're ready to go, or just set the game to free play mode
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
They are considering to fix it since it's a small thing to recode unlike a balance patch (which they were not allowed to do upon release) but I do hope it gets balanced
@aaqibrawat3863
@aaqibrawat3863 Ай бұрын
Damn all this attention might make code mystics and snk patch the bloody game properly
@Gamersgoinblind
@Gamersgoinblind Ай бұрын
What's funny is that not patching the games are what people wanted for all their other releases like Mark of the Wolves and the KoF games, but SvC is probably the one exception.
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
If Code Mystics were to be granted permission to alter the game for a balance patch.... that would be so damn good. But they would have to take alot of info and suggestions on what to balance.
@SamwiseTheNotSoBrave
@SamwiseTheNotSoBrave Ай бұрын
Thanks for putting this together! I thought I was crazy when I hit the credit wall in arcade mode. I'm hoping they do patch in infinite continues. Heck, they can keep the 4-credit option if people wanna do challenge runs. Otherwise, I'm loving the release.
@vdfritzz
@vdfritzz Ай бұрын
it's interesting how the ps2 version has some upscaling happening on the character sprites but only on the outline that shitty lazy bilinear filter is unforgivable, they are selling it on computers in 2024, they should have done a bunch of different upscaling shaders cmon, it's not hard
@NewGabeOrder
@NewGabeOrder Ай бұрын
6:36 The bad thing is that Replays cannot be saved in VS mode. Looks like the VCR and recordable video tapes will have to be used to simulate such feature.
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
I went through the xbox manual and i think the replays were only for online matches
@AmestrisSquare
@AmestrisSquare Ай бұрын
The Xbox version had color edit Which would've been hella neat to bring back considering the game only has 2 colors per character It would also give the game an argument over fightcade Wish SNK saw more value on their old console ports instead of only looking on how to repackage arcade ports Still glad this game is back Lets hope XI comes back, and the Ps2 version
@jvibexd
@jvibexd Ай бұрын
Basically the Steam one is the arcade version (with Rom and Emulation) with an new UI in the menu screen.
@KimSamaVideos
@KimSamaVideos Ай бұрын
You forgot to mention the HUD. The PS2 and Xbox versions has transparency which the Neo Geo hardware could not do
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
That's why I left a message for anyone to add anything I missed out on. 🙂 thanks
@mariomario7379
@mariomario7379 Ай бұрын
I like the arcade effects more. I just miss color edit mode. The port wasn’t terrible.
@gamma_dc8289
@gamma_dc8289 Ай бұрын
This game is at my local arcade, and while I love the xbox version, I appreciate the re-release removing the changes the xbox one had, im used to the arcade version lol. It sucks the extra modes and color swapping is gone though.
@patriciacarreon2192
@patriciacarreon2192 Ай бұрын
I Just suscribed, GREETINGS from MÉXICO
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
thanks for watching 🙂
@NMRH258
@NMRH258 Ай бұрын
0:56 Incorrect: the Steam port is the home Neo Geo AES version, not the arcade MVS version.
@PsychoticLuke
@PsychoticLuke Ай бұрын
Sooo... the 2024 has NO palette/name edit, NO survival, NO Athena/Red Arremer tranformations, NO stage select for practice mode, ONLY 3 continues, and crappier more hard-to-read movelist... How after nearly 20 years of tech evolution, a company can fail so utterly fucking miserably in reviving a games most basic functions is beyond me..but I guess only Crapcom knows. How hard can it be to do your job proper? They could have fixed all this and added an RPG mode like SFA3 on GBA if I am not mistaken, and boss damage for players playing as bosses. Thanks for the video. I am sticking to my superior Xbox version of the game.
@Ifalvarado
@Ifalvarado Ай бұрын
its like the Ps2 is sort of rebuilt/remastered....to some degree
@yauyuso
@yauyuso Ай бұрын
I remember in general the home ports of the SNK games like King Of FIghters series would have more transparent projectiles. I usually thought it was because the consoles have strong power than the SNK gameboard. I think it was 16bit when majority are 32 bit like the CPS2 Capcom uses.
@cireza_
@cireza_ Ай бұрын
Survival would have clearly been great in this re-release, Color Edit as well it was very fun on Xbox, especially at such a high price. PS2/Xbox were ports, not emulated, this is why they could adjust many things, including transparency.
@Cluelesstheremake
@Cluelesstheremake Ай бұрын
I remember playing chun li like god tier on the arcade machines, but on the PS4 using de controller feels kinda clumsy
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
maybe cause arcade has square gates to where to can feel the diagonal points easier but controller pads n joysticks (more rounded gate) can be a bit harder to get inputs correctly
@mlgxxx808
@mlgxxx808 Ай бұрын
Forgot about that sec choas was on original Xbox
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
some color edits were crazy 😆
@ricardo8252
@ricardo8252 Ай бұрын
¿Why the uppercut input is so difficult to perform on Demitri and Dan? its a bug or it was a fail on the arcade. I got the Switch version.
@4501Kevin
@4501Kevin Ай бұрын
I thought was the only person had difficult to put it, bro im telling you i put the game in my phone on GGPO and the input,combos y uppercut are very smooth than the switch version and i sense a little delay in some attacks
@VaiFiz
@VaiFiz Ай бұрын
Also Ryu's...
@jasper9291
@jasper9291 Ай бұрын
@@4501Kevin Emulation is illegal
@4501Kevin
@4501Kevin Ай бұрын
@@jasper9291 i know, but i buyed the game i think i have the ríght to play it in another hardware or return to the arcade machines and play the same game
@dnmstarsi
@dnmstarsi Ай бұрын
While it was cool to see this return with some new features, they really should've focused on either porting the console versions or taking those features and putting it with the 2024 version.
@captaincz5763
@captaincz5763 Ай бұрын
I think you don't even get to fight Athena/Red Arremer at the end and therefore don't get to meet "God". This port is just straight up missing content, and that includes the untranslated text between Athena and Red Arremer and their finishing transformations. I also believe you can't even get the characters' endings, at least I didn't when I beat single player as Terry. SNK seriously needs to get work on fixing this port's issues. Hope they can add unlimited continues bc this game hard af too
@ChiefMedicPururu
@ChiefMedicPururu Ай бұрын
Wait, don't you need specific requirements to meet these two?
@flinten7485
@flinten7485 Ай бұрын
Main draw for me is the online play! And the 2024 version has far superior options and a much better online experience than the Xbox version I played online back when it was new. Also, it's official and legal as apposed to fightcade which has questionable legal concerns.
@TCI_YT
@TCI_YT Ай бұрын
Transparent life bars and the better resolution on the intro, portraits and endings are also not present on steam 😔
@GojiGuy
@GojiGuy Ай бұрын
Great video, but I do wish the games weren't "stretched" to 16:9...
@LuminescentShine
@LuminescentShine Ай бұрын
The content doesnt bug but, what does bug me is that we didn't get the minor tweaks from the xbox version. Otherwise this port runs great
@rafaeltelez6178
@rafaeltelez6178 Ай бұрын
ps2 looks better than steam
@HoroJoga
@HoroJoga 27 күн бұрын
You guys talk like the steam version isn't just the neo geo arcade rom running on a hidden emulator. The PS2 was an actual port, which made more sense at the time.
@xkenzox2431
@xkenzox2431 Ай бұрын
So basically steam version, is a ROM for M.A.M.E in console mode, with a gallery extra to $20, so disapointed, i still prefer ps2 version. Ty for sharing comparative.
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
Yes it is. I try the PS2 version and it's fine but I prefer having Online than no online modes. I hope they patch these features into the game in the future. Color edit would be fun. I saw some crazy colors on xbox version. some were just silly but fun to see 😎
@IanGouki
@IanGouki Ай бұрын
Not to nitpick but the game is back. I can ignore these missing items. Just my two cents. 😊
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
Exactly. I already bought the game to support the devs. I'm not complaining about missing content, I'm just showing the differences so people know extra features that would be nice in this game. 🙂
@AdamJDM1
@AdamJDM1 Ай бұрын
I bought the Pixnlove limited edition release of this that comes in a Neo-Geo snap box and some cool extras like a aluminum plate poster... They only made 100 copies of it, so glad I got my pre-order in before it was sold out. However, I don't think I'll actually open the game up ever. I can see this is kind of crap release. The PS2/Xbox versions had some cool extras and improvements, which this version doesn't have. If I want just an emulated version of the arcade release, why would I pay for this? I'd rather just play it physically on my actual Neo-Geo, which I think I'll do now. What a weak release.
@LuminescentShine
@LuminescentShine Ай бұрын
I am mixed. I like the modes, tweaks, and some bonus dialogue on the console versions. But the fire ball attacks look better and worse on the consoles. Plus the console port has some input lag if I play it on my tv. I own the ps2 version, ordered the switch version, and bought the GOG version. I might pick up the xbox version and sell my ps2 verison in the future.
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
I couldnt get a hold of the xbox version to test out how it reads input delay and get a clear view of every menu. I had to settle for PS2
@Shahars71
@Shahars71 Ай бұрын
What a shame that it's just a barebones aes version port. I hope Code Mystics updates the game with survival and color edit modes to put it more in line with their other snk rereleases content-wise.
@clonedbraixen
@clonedbraixen Ай бұрын
We need to talk to Code Mystics
@Blas4ublasphemy
@Blas4ublasphemy Ай бұрын
Cool info, I really think this game is cool to have but forgot just how broken and clunky it is. Playing SFA3 and KOF 13 directly afterwards like a mouthwash lol.
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
lol 😆 well all games have their fun moments. I didn't play much of KOF
@Blas4ublasphemy
@Blas4ublasphemy Ай бұрын
@@AcidGlow KOF 98 is still so good, maybe my favorite game ever...
@Jahn_Pah_Jonz
@Jahn_Pah_Jonz Ай бұрын
​@@Blas4ublasphemyKoF 98 is my favorite fighting game and of one my 4th favorite game ever. However, I actually like this game more than Capcom vs SNK 2 and play it every now and then. I wish more fighting games, particularly the crossover ones, focused on the story and fanservice.
@markg5480
@markg5480 Ай бұрын
Yeah, I mean why focus on controls, streamlined mechanics, and animation fluidity when you can focus on what Mai wears at the weekend and what Kyo's dating preference is 🤣 SNK fans in a nutshell
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
@@Jahn_Pah_Jonz the story was mostly flushed out in the manga. which is really hard to get a hold of. i never read it
@MaycolGamer026
@MaycolGamer026 Ай бұрын
SvC Chaos is better in PS2 and Xbox.
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
Depends what you like in it. I like the stage select and survival mode but not the visual changes to sprites
@The_WIll_OF_D99
@The_WIll_OF_D99 Ай бұрын
PS2 always had it shitty when it came to sprites ​@@AcidGlow
@kreana02
@kreana02 Ай бұрын
I checked the files of the 2024 version. This is an arcade rom being emulated. The rom files are there. Maybe running in console mode?
@Gamesackfan-bn6eg
@Gamesackfan-bn6eg 14 күн бұрын
Street Fighter 2 V music, hell yeah.
@dbzeh6837
@dbzeh6837 Ай бұрын
That means that much like KOF 01 and 2002 Ps2, the Svc one for Sony's system is far superior. SNK/playmore was rushing its MVS/Aes games, and they had a very unfinished feel. It's kinda sad that the new version is basically the MVS one... This game has gorgeous sprites, but desperately needs new stages and music. I would love a new 2d version, with more stuff and a less depressing feel.
@SickleSlash
@SickleSlash 13 күн бұрын
Don't know if anyone pointed this out yet or not but the Xbox version had a different announcer and the recent version fixes the Genjuro typo. Anyone know how to get this port running on Linux/wine?
@AlphaProto
@AlphaProto Ай бұрын
I'll stick with the PS2 version I imported.
@Kakeen
@Kakeen Ай бұрын
The PS4, switch, and steam versions definitely need a color edit mode, this game only has 2 colors, default and alternate. And quite frankly some of the alternates suck. One of the negatives I can say about xmvsf, MSHvsSF, and MvC1. Let us have options.
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
some secondary colors are not good. color edit mode would be fun
@Kakeen
@Kakeen Ай бұрын
@@AcidGlow Yes definitely, while some people really shouldn't be making their own colors (looking at you SFxT with your super bright neon color shades), there are some great alternate colors you can make.
@shawty10ize
@shawty10ize Ай бұрын
I was playing the PS2 and arcade versions and comparing just the other day. PS2 has a lot more transparency effects in the projectiles and Overall looks a tad better. But some of the complex moves are even harder to pull off somehow. Chun Lis exceed move is damn near impossible on PS2. I can barely ever land it. I do love the ps2 survival mode though.
@huevonesunltd
@huevonesunltd Ай бұрын
I think they straight up forgot a console version even existed so they didn't even consider it. Fighting games are for some reason notable for lacking very basic features that are not hard to implement, maybe tedious but not hard to enough as an excuse to not put them in, i mean, come on, how hard can it be to have an option to change the stage in practice mode?
@geebeepman
@geebeepman Ай бұрын
so smooth image filter just makes the character blurry.
@cesarinfashion1
@cesarinfashion1 Ай бұрын
The arcade version doesn't have voice for Zero like the console versions as well.
@ChiefMedicPururu
@ChiefMedicPururu Ай бұрын
Wait, they don't have lines for Zero??
@cesarinfashion1
@cesarinfashion1 Ай бұрын
@@ChiefMedicPururu The arcade version doesn't. Though I'm not sure if they were added later or they were exclusive to the console versions but the arcade doesn't at all.
@NightmarishPT
@NightmarishPT 25 күн бұрын
I think visually the PS2 version is superior. A shame that they weren't able to improve the PS2 version. And maybe throw 4 or 6 new chars on it.
@HAGZ0483
@HAGZ0483 Ай бұрын
New version seems mostly inferior (slow moves being subjective, sf6 made me hate slow/long supers ) with the only upgrade been the netcode.
@n64fan60
@n64fan60 Ай бұрын
The only thing I hate about the arcade version is the 15 second fighter select time limit
@hugoc.robles156
@hugoc.robles156 Ай бұрын
I hate either 🙁
@johnlund3088
@johnlund3088 Ай бұрын
Thanks alot for this 👏👌👍😊 super informative ❤
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
thank you for watching 🙂
@antonio_carvalho
@antonio_carvalho Ай бұрын
Love these in-depth comparisons
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
thank you
@israelrivera2836
@israelrivera2836 Ай бұрын
For me works fine and my ps5 I love playing this game
@jeremyhall2727
@jeremyhall2727 Ай бұрын
5:50 i like the PS2 normal filter the best out the four 🤔 the smoothing filter on the steam version is all wrong. They turned the smoothing up too much
@Wolfedge75
@Wolfedge75 Ай бұрын
Between this and the KOF 2000~2003, I just think that (SNK) Playmore reworked their NeoGeo games from the ground up in the PS2 ports. Because I remember '01~'03 looking way different from their arcade counterparts. (But yeah, the limited continues are just _egregious_ given previous AES ports from CM don't have this BS)
@chengfu7063
@chengfu7063 Ай бұрын
The difference between is that it's playable on the PS2 Japanese and the Xbox original where is this is following the arcade but infinite supers as shown make the possibilities infinite for victory very good but at this point a boss syndrome isn't lol and both crossovers have a syndrome although by completing the Boss Rush on the CVS version it does unlock everything Middle East here on the SVC version you have wind boy Goentiz 🌪️🌪️🌪️ his ultimate defense is the best projectile in the game
@SunDownBrown
@SunDownBrown Ай бұрын
Athena and Red Arremer needed to be unlocked in the ps2 version by beating them in survival mode.
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
yup 😃
@therelaxingcgi
@therelaxingcgi Ай бұрын
Basically steam owners paid for a rom you can download for free.
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
That has online mode and you support the dev and publisher to release older games to give more people on other platforms a chance to play them. Not everyone wants to do emulation.
@therelaxingcgi
@therelaxingcgi Ай бұрын
@@AcidGlow Online? wow now I understand.
@KevinElliott-cn1nw
@KevinElliott-cn1nw Ай бұрын
Will stick to the ps2 version
@jased8727
@jased8727 Ай бұрын
What is that kickass track in the art gallery at 2:08,anyone.?
@newswatcher-rf2up
@newswatcher-rf2up Ай бұрын
3:41 that’s not “slow moves” nor does it “animate faster”. the moves aren’t slow, and the animation speeds are the same. it’s just longer *hitstops*
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow Ай бұрын
well I guess I worded it oddly but you know what I mean 😃
@eduardoandre5357
@eduardoandre5357 Ай бұрын
A versão de PS2 é a melhor !
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