How is this Gaming PC only $175?!

This is one of the few times we are having trouble figuring out how there is any money to be made on a gaming PC sale. For only $175 we got a fully working computer with an Intel i7 4790K and a GTX 960… with free shipping!?
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[@matthenderson94]

For $175, as long as it's an actual computer, and not just a box of confetti, that seems like a win.

[@schneeball2384]

Nah for 175 I would expect something pretty decent if you were to take your time to do it yourself

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

That system is only worth around $175. It has a 9yr old cpu that is 8 generations old and an equally old graphics card. There isn't much special about this.

[@DBDRFzero]

@@JamesSmith-sw3nk A 4790k is like $50-60 though on ebay, the only time I would recommend getting a Xeon

[@TechGenshi]

$250 on ebay now

[@taibro1]

@@schneeball2384how high are your standards lmao thats about the best u can get

[@aisle9]

I had a 4790K/GTX 960 system for a long time. The 960 definitely felt underpowered, but oh man I had some fun Skyrimming away on that old thing. I still have the 960 and use it in a retro XP build now, because it is the very last NVIDIA card with XP support. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. :)

[@LordSeventh.]

lol

[@lucasrem]

aisle I use 1080 Ti in Xp too, it support older DX versions too ! What did you do, were did you go wrong, drivers you can't find ?

[@jesussuperlightchris5797]

Guess you'll double the price?

[@PrjctWRX]

LOL I use a 4790K with a 3060 Ti 💀 I know I know crazy bottle neck but it still hangs with the AAA titles at higher res

[@GK_Squid]

I love how you guys feature systems that will be on your site. Do you have any signature builds you guys prefer in house? Have you made a video on one yet? Keep up the great work

[@thundr_dwn_undr7864]

Gotta love the 100 degrees on the CPU. "Toasty" is right. No thanks

[@DraftySatyr]

🤣🤣🤣

[@BREEZYM6015]

Even my FX8320 never got that hot. 😂

[@pinksnootgaming]

Wow who woulda thought not having a cpu cooler all the way mounted woulda mattered... hmm😂

[@BenB810]

lol

[@BigBeef]

So you applied thermal paste, screwed the heatsink down, and replaced the SSD with one (512 GB) that cost maybe $25, and are charging more than double at $400.00 plus shipping at PCBROS. I remember when you guys didn't jack up the price of on air feature PCs. Try changing the price to $325 to be reasonable, and it may sell.

[@Rem0ve2]

I'd pay 175 easily for this to be shipped to me. That is a great deal for what it is. I'm astonished actually.

[@jurpo6]

Anything under a 6700k is useless for gaming. A 960 is barely faster than a 750ti. E-waste.

[@ChefSora]

@@jurpo6bro not for $175. That’s crazy!

[@DBDRFzero]

@@jurpo6 You thought that was e-waste? Try buying dell optiplexes, I bought 3 of them, 2 died from some weird 3,2 amber light bug(that's impossible to fix due to the bios I think), and the last one wouldn't accept my Wifi card.

[@zerocal76]

​@DoctorFreeman0 weird. I've bought about 12-13 Optiplexes in the last couple yrs and only had a problem w 1(had to dig around for video drivers for the old graphics card I put in it)

[@DBDRFzero]

@@zerocal76 I think it has to do with a bios problem, I updated to the latest bios and then boom didn't work anymore or I just have bad luck.

[@PatientXero607]

eBay really needs to get a handle on 16 year olds selling garbage. Selling off your 10 year old pile of crap isn't a business, it's a scam.

[@richardfarmer6570]

For $175 that is hard to beat, especially with an old school Lian Li case.

[@ogbenchmarks7127]

throw in the dust for free - what a bargain

[@dianaalyssa8726]

The dust and thermal paste eww.

[@DireNeeds]

I think you got a good deal. Your investments were the initial cost, testing and bench marking, some time cleaning it up, and a little thermal paste. Even if you had to have replaced the cooler I think it still would have been worth it. Good deal!

[@zac3996]

Found a PC with a i7 3770, 16gb, 256gb ssd and a gtx 1050ti in it all for 80usd cant wait to test it out

[@zerocal76]

That 1050ti alone is worth about that much. Nice find. What site, m

[@John-m3k2d]

Good find

[@MakWill-x4k]

Right as I put my phone down a new video comes out and it doesn’t disappoint me🔥

[@LordSeventh.]

lol

[@jamesevans3492]

That Little Lian Li Computer Case, Reminds Me Of A Micro Fridge, Which College Students Use In Their Dorm Rooms For Beer . . . lol . . . Good Catch On Finding The Loose CPU Fan, Which Was Barely Sitting On, And Barely Connected To The Mainboard, With The Absolute Minimal Thermal Paste Connected To The CPU . . . Wow, What An Oversight By The Company, Who Supposedly Tested That Computer, Prior To Offering It For Resale . . . ;-o

[@Blind-Ambition]

Those temps, oof. Decent price though overall. I recently built a similar specced system (except with a 4790S and GTX1650 instead of the 4790K and GTX960) for around £125 ($152) and with the 960 being much cheaper along with the combination of maybe ebay seller fee reduction weekends, you could extract a reasonable margin from that $179

[@luisgoncalves2864]

Wow that is an awesome PC for 150

[@Blind-Ambition]

@@luisgoncalves2864 It was, but part of it was also luck, with winning the base system for £20 in an auction as a "for parts or not working" system; only thing that was needed to be replaced was the fan inside the PSU as the bearings had gone, came with an i5, 16GB RAM and a 1TB HDD, just slapping in a 128GB SSD along with those other 2 parts is why it was so cheap innthe end.

[@Dassick89]

I literally picked an alien aurora r4 off the top of a dumpster at my job one day (apartment maintenance). This was in 2017, and the pc was already a few years old. Needless to say it would turn on and power cycle with no display. Pulled off the "cooler master" 120mm aio... the guy installed the bracket upside down so it had no contact. Had decent gaming specs and booted right up afterwards, wiped it and installed fresh windows. Ended up selling it to my friend pretty cheap. If i remmeber correctly it had a i7 3620, and a decent radeon gpu. I couldnt complain. Got it back when the power button stopped working and still have it because of the story behind it...

[@FishyToast8]

Could you recomend or /do a complete i5 or i7 build of readily available parts. (not one off special find prices) pre built ok but case swap. I want to build a PC that looks like a gaming PC with lower specs for emulation up to Ps3 high end build not needed. The first one I built cost 100 all ebay. I have been buying older dells at $18-23 i5-i7 16g ddr3 w/ Os win10 pro 256g ssd

[@rikogarza1729]

It’s a goodwill auction pc based on the sticker you found, so basically one man’s junk

[@Can8ian.]

That system is totally worth $175 bucks. It would be a great starter gaming PC as long as the person has a friend that can help them with thermal paste and cleaning, maybe some driver updates and such. I'd buy it if I needed a cheap gaming PC.

[@Jason-fv5my]

Do you have any recommendations for a starter pc around 200/250 range kinda like this? Because I’m looking to sell my Xbox 1s and use the money for a pc that can run the same games as my Xbox and more, thanks for your time bro 🙏🏼

[@TronixGuy93]

I have worked with OEM's for over 29 years and PSU's as low as 165w Low-Profile are still being manufactured. I recently helped another business owner source NEW (MFG date 12/20/2022) 285w, 375w & 440w Power supplies for custom fabricated and integrated systems. When I asked the 7 MFG's if they ever plan on discontinuing or increasing the low-end wattage components, they resoundingly said no. There is still high demand for such things.

[@ToyotaTrucks9]

I’m still using the 4790k overclocked to 4.5 ghz with a RTX 3060ti and 32gb of ram, it’s a beast system even though some specs are outdated.

[@dangerous8333]

Nice! I’m using a 3930k OC’d to 4.5 and a 2070s ftw3 w/ 32 gb ram and zero bottlenecks. Still a total beast.

[@JimNichols]

Where I live in Thailand there is this one guy that must never sleep and builds PCs all the live long day as his specialty is a PC with a dual E3-1230 v5 with 64 gig ram for some unbelievable pricing. Stuffs some nice case he bought full of RGB fans and uses the all in one liquid coolers and bang you have a system that to the ohhhh and ahhhh crowd is amazing. 8 cores and `6 threads with 64 gigs of ram sounds impressive to the less than average Joe here in Thailand.

[@Machistmo]

FSR that badboy. It wasnt running like that its whole life. It got drop kicked in drop shipping process. It was added to replace a more capable $$ valuable cooler, cooler, after the testing with the old solution this stock coller was added and it was shipped.. I would imagine the cooler It had was harvested for resale or use in a system that needed it more.

[@gosh.o505]

The thing with used pc’s/ parts sometimes people are just selling them because they are taking up space not because they aren’t working so while it’s a hit or miss there’s nothing wrong ever with buying used parts. I was able to build a decent rig for under 170 and it holds up pretty well. Just gotta look for those good deals and know what your looking for.

[@mkps1988]

Over week ago I pick dell inspiron 3671 from 2020 with i5 9400, 16gb ddr4 ram, m.2 sdd 1tb for $5 at estate sale so far still run good

[@Jwalker76]

If you're prepared to clean and reapply thermal paste to the CPU and GPU then this could be a really good buy. There's plenty worse prebuilt PCs being sold on eBay for more money that $175 USD. Also you could spend a little more and get a better second hand GPU like a Rx 570 8gb, Rx 580 8gb, GTX 1060 6gb.

[@PieceOfSchmidtt_Games]

what about a gtx 1080? (8gb)

[@Jwalker76]

@@PieceOfSchmidtt_Games this computer could use a GTX 1080, PSU just has enough juice for it. If it's worth buying a GTX 1080 I don't know. A newer AMD 6600 is faster than a GTX 1080 so I would want the 1080 to be cheaper than one of them.

[@RoosterCogburn]

I'm still running a 4790K in my secondary rig. That's a HOT CPU. Damn thing has always idled at 45C even with a Noctua DH-15, even with an AIO with 240mm rad. I've kept it at the max stable overclock all of its life (4.4 Ghz) It didn't run much cooler stock clocked. Just one of the features of some of the old hardware, you can heat your house with it in the winter. Especially here in Florida.

[@pjtorres91]

Actually, this is a win. I'd buy this for my son since he wants to be a gamer and he's only 7. Living paycheck-to-paycheck certainly does hurt because I cannot get what he wants. Soon son... realy soon I will get you one of these for the first time. Leaving comments for support and remembrance to come back to. Thanks for your help in showing these builds. Stay Toasty, bros!

[@luisquinones993]

Great stuff guys always , i have learn so much in this chanell two weeks ago i build a pemtuin g 6400 pair with a xfx 570 4g on a msi 410m pro mobo 600watt thermal take smart series psu 16gb hp ram 2667mgz kingston ssd 512gb on atx case dont remember the brand , got everything on facebook market place for 150$ was able to play fornite 1080p low settings drx12 with avg fps of 80, 7ms latency plug on the vga port on a acer 24 inch monitor also oncluded on the facebook market place 150$ full set up monitor and preriferals had it for a couple days then i sold it on fb market place for 300$ thank you guys best teachers ever peace.

[@carlosandres8974]

4c/8t still has a sweet spot in my heart great cpus even today

[@dangerous8333]

Just for gaming though.

[@gregarmstrong552]

One of those heat sink clips isn't locked. They should all be in the same orientation. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[@danmcmahon1656]

I like what you guys are doing. BTW, it looks like this seller is right down the road from me in Sacramento CA. They apparently do have a bricks 'N mortar warehouse there. Lots of 6th gen stuff in the same price range as yours.

[@guidancefromjah]

dope! hope they ship to Toronto!

[@Kemulnitestryker]

When buying an older pc, it's always a case of "buyer beware.". If you know how to deal with any problems that come up, then you got a deal.

[@DBDRFzero]

I bought 2 Dell Optiplex 3020 SFFs and they both died due to the 3,2 amber of death. As long as it's not a Dell computer before 2016, you should be good with older office PCs.

[@flamespear86]

Either stolen, repossessed, or they have so much inventory that they have to take a loss to make room on stuff they can actually make money on.

[@HairyScrambler]

9:08 This should be considered a crime again PCs everywhere. Literal torture. That cooler could at least hold the thing back around the low 80s at least

[@TheHalofivebroken]

$175 on this is a great deal add a GTX 1650 or 1660 and you turn it into a $400-$500 PC. Ditch the small SSD for a 1tb or 2tb ram is great

[@0o9ijnbhytgr]

i build these often but with a GTX 970, total cost for all the parts is like 150 / 200 euro

[@chincemagnet]

You’d be surprised how long a CPU will last thermal throttling. A system I had at work thermal throttled for years before anybody bothered to mention it to me. It was a P4, I actually snagged it for myself when we retired that PC, and it died shortly after.

[@xBruceLee88x]

I currently have a Gateway with i5 4440 3.1ghz, 4x 4gb random sticks ddr3, 750 GB hdd, RX 560D 4GB. So far total cost to me... Maybe $65? 45 for the gpu I just put in. Like $15 for the monitor, Dell FP1707 or something, and $5 to replace a bad ram stick. 😂

[@immortaljellyfish1051]

For an upgrade the 960 could be sold for $20 and buy a $50 rx 580. It would improve it no end

[@ronhorne4930]

That case alone would be worth the money. As far as the system itself it would be a great first PC for a younger kid. You can take it apart and teach them about how to clean and install the parts.

[@JPack-cs9mw]

On the systems you buy to show and sale through your videos do you do health test on the hard drives to inform future buyers of it's health to let them know ???

[@t3mpl3tw3]

I think they test the hard drives. They have to warranty the computers for up to one year so it wouldn't make sense to ship out computers with bad hard drives or they would be dealing with a lot of returns

[@jimcachero]

I just did that price with a Xeon-980-Chinese ssd and a 2016 mb, ram has went down to 20 for 16gb new on Amazon… it did take a full week to find parts on marketplace but it’s doable

[@Fenrirsleash]

LOL 4790ks are some hot boys for sure I'm surprised it did so well with the stock cooler

[@DBDRFzero]

4790ks literally were the 5800x3d of their time. 100 degrees in 20 seconds.

[@michubern1444]

​@@DBDRFzeroliquid metal

[@RuruFIN]

The board may actually support overclocking. I had a Gigabyte H81 board and Pentium G3258 overclocking with it worked as fine just like with Sabertooth Z87 I got later.

[@raym7441]

This is a win even with it being dirty in the right hands, if this got in the hands of a noob to PC's this would have been a loss. They probably would not have realized the cooler wasn't mounted properly.

[@DBDRFzero]

The PSU is 12 years+ old though, I would be careful and try to replace it ASAP.

[@galaxy_ryzegaming2189]

Decent deal but I paid $360 for my pc. Which has a Has Ryzen 5 3600 RX6600 Eagle 8GB 16GB DDR4 Ram 512GB SSD 500W Bronze PSU Gigabyte B450M Wi-Fi Montech X1 RGB Windows 11 home

[@309electronics5]

Not bad!!!!!

[@richardkeith7571]

I have an Antec power supply from 2008 still going strong

[@AphelionSamuel]

Sounds like a great PC!

[@Lon1001]

it's all used parts, older ones that nobody really wants anymore except for the cpu since they are time tested. And they didn't spend anytime cleaning, tuning or tweaking it at all. Exact opposite of quality control. That's why its cheap.

[@gerbilkill]

I just built a pc with a 13 year old cool Max power supply . A gb- ab350n mobo( 6 years old.) A ryzen 5 2400g. Not windows 11 compatible , but used rufus. Ordered a 7600 rx. And 32 gb ram. But times are tuff. But still need to game. I spent 401$

[@thenoobreturnz8968]

Bro 1:38 i literally am doing that right now bought a i7-3700 pc with 8gb ddr3 for $52, and i bought a mining rx 470 8gb for $50, and i also bought an extra 8gb of ram for $12 then a 8tb hdd for $110 this is going to be my next personal pc until i decide to upgrade to a ryzen system 😂 thanks for the vid toasty really glad i found this channel

[@alarmedbbg3339]

Selling it for $400 is crazy though 😭😭

[@DBDRFzero]

Did they actually sell it for $400? Bruh Toasty Bros scalping moment

[@alarmedbbg3339]

@@DBDRFzero yeah😭

[@wolfiecoo]

These look like bulk internet cafe systems

[@Qusal777]

Good video, but maybe add a 3060 to this i7 built and Steamos and retest it, I believe a buyer will have a great gaming experience for years to come, especially with the ITX form factor it is a great living room pc.

[@nonyanks2510]

Would have been nice to see the performance numbers after you cleaned too....dust and cigarette smoke can really mess a computer up !

[@chrissoto4878]

You're definitely going to have to get extra storage for a machine made for gaming; 128 GB is not enough for modern games anymore (for reference COD Modern Warfare is around 175 GB before updates and DLC)... But the storage I suppose is appropriate for the GPU it comes with; as a GTX 960 is not going to be enough to run visually demanding modern games at even the minimum settings anyways. You'll likely be playing games from 2012-2016 which typically took less space unless you're going to play the likes of Fornite/LOL/WOW/or CSGO. Beyond that; that motherboard is going to the be the largest setback as far as upgrading. It only supports DDR3 memory, and it has an outdated CPU socket... Meaning you can't make any upgrades that'd matter for modern games with that board. You'd have to essentially replace just about every component including the PSU as it won't be able to power the likes of an RTX series GPU. Sure this is a BEAST as far as out of the box dell optiplex's and other PC sellers go; but this is definitely a subpar build for gaming in 2023 if you're not planning to flip it. Not bad for an office/light indie gaming setup tho! I've seen office pc's from dell go for more than that and many of them don't even have dedicated GPU's lol Edit: added more information for clarity

[@РоманГурник]

Good job! but would like to see goafic frametime

[@JPack-cs9mw]

I enjoy your videos and find them helpful at times . Thanks ...

[@DraftySatyr]

"... find them helpful at times." Talk about being damned by faint praise! 😂😂

[@jandkwhite6459]

That psu was released 12 years ago lol. Wow. Hope the ripple isn't as bad as the bulging caps😂

[@DBDRFzero]

I would replace that PSU ASAP, anything more than 10 years for a PSU is asking for trouble.

[@smlatifmd]

How do y'all get the stats in gameplay? I'd love to be able to check that out on my own system. As always, really enjoy your videos.

[@pauldacus4590]

Their eBay store is shut down..

[@Lee88-q5q]

for that money no problem il clean and put all missing screws all day long

[@FunWithAJ]

Can't find these on the ebay store for under $250

[@I_SuperHiro_I]

They run an ewaste recycling business.

[@bumbaclot813]

I really like that case.

[@DraftySatyr]

Agreed. It looked very respectable once it had been cleaned up.

[@phr3dmcc0y]

I think its good. Im not sure if thats a dd3 or 4 board; im leaning towards 3 because I think ddr4 didnt start till 5th gen intel. but I have a gtx780, i7 2nd gen w 16 gigs ddr3, and its been very adequate for what I do: minecraft, wow, and Star trek armada; which is an older game, but a favorite.

[@michubern1444]

Its ddr 3 yes

[@sirzembla4512]

If it has Win 7 installed , it's a no brainer deal ....

[@keancv]

Well done to you for scoring the pc so cheap. Possibly the symptoms of the cpu cooler being loose is why it was so cheap, just too bad that the seller is not as clever as you

[@marlbro-2473]

"I don't necessarily know if that's going to make a difference..." Welcome to PC gaming bro. 🤨

[@craftymulligar]

Maybe they got the parts donated to them from people no longer with us. Lot of people leaving and coming in to the U.S.

[@Thumper68]

A 970 and 4 sticks of ram and this would be entirely different pc for same cost more or less

[@cogYo]

Love your content!

[@gametime2473]

Great price for what you are getting. The heat sink being held on by plastic clips is super sketchy though.

[@aaronmcneal1698]

Buy the computer, sell the GPU take that money and put into at least a 580 x or higher and you still have a good 1080p rig for most esports games

[@Sonic_1000]

Yall should add a cheap tower cooler and a used 1660 and see how it performs.

[@Thumper68]

Dude I have like 30 pcs with 3770,4770,4790, many with aftermarket cases and boards I need to sell this stuff!

[@stevemercure902]

An outstanding deal in my book.

[@MiKu-roProcessioni]

Why didn't you check what motherboard was used and other specs, apart cpu and gpu? It would've be interesting.

[@bleachcheeks4837]

Man imma get a cheapo with a compatible motherboard, put a used i9 in it, grab a new scuff or PS5 pro controller and input swap on apex and stream. Literally my whole goal in gaming

[@k9-punchline738]

50 to 100 dollars for cleaning? Bro you ok ?

[@christophergonzales5474]

hello i am a pc noob, can someone please tell me what is at the top left? the little info panel with the stats.. id like to use it to run some tests.. thanks in adv..

[@christopherbearerofchrist9775]

THE POINT IS YOU DONT NEED TO SPEND 100000 DOLLARS ON A PC TO PLAY GAMES ITS NOT ALWAYS ABOUT FRAMES

[@NonLegitNation2]

this honestly isn't a bad system. Spend another $15 on a cheap tower cooler and clean it up and you have a competent little e-sports gaming machine. The only downside is that it's not going to be able to be upgraded to Windows 11.

[@DraftySatyr]

Windows 10 supported until October 2025, so potentially two years of use for $175. Not so shabby, bearing in mind that you could reuse the hardware with Linux afterwards as a home server or similar.

[@someguywithmtndew5691]

Windows 10 iot enterprise will be supported for a long time

[@zeroturn7091]

I put W11 on a Sandy Bridge platform.

[@Majin-DooD]

I’d actually love a pc case like this! Any recommendations???

[@TheWancer]

why would you let the cpu run at 100 c

[@itsdeonlol]

$175 is INSANE!!!!

[@akachucknasty]

Still runs cooler than my ROG laptop

[@RanByKrisp]

To people who don’t read Celsius… 72 degrees in Celsius is like 140 degrees Fahrenheit 💀

[@LordSeventh.]

lol

[@BREEZYM6015]

Did I get a good deal on this $300 PC despite it not coming with a PSU or storage? MSI Z370-A PRO MOTHERBOARD i7 8700k ASUS GTX 1060 6GB Turbo 16GB Patriot Viper DDR4 RAM at 3000MHz Corsair H100i 240mm AIO cooler Kediers C570 open air case with 7 RGB fans

[@michubern1444]

Good deal.the 1060 shows its age but you could even upgrade the gpu because the 8700k is still a nice cpu.

[@309electronics5]

7 rgb fans, Aio, 8700k i7 and 16gb ram is a good deal

[@Nobody_2024]

I just got a Digitsl Storm i7 9700F with an Asus Gtx1650 32 gigs Corsair RGB 3200Mhz Ram, Asus 27” gaming monitor K70 keyboard, headset and gaming mouse with a 1TB SSD and 2TB storage drive. Mastercooler RGB cpu cooler and a few more RGB fans. $300. Good deal?

[@LanzkiTgaming]

Its a steal where can u buy 175 with full set PC.

[@mmd_ger6087]

i got a i7 4790 with a gtx 1070ti 32 gb ddr 3 1600 and i play that game on high dx12 80 to 120 fps

[@ixenslva5992]

Should I buy a windows key from gvg mall idk it looks kinda sketchy?

[@stringsC]

for that spec and usedI think it is hard to sell even for $50. for $175 I can easily get at least ryzen 1700x pc with at least 1060 gpu.

[@nightblood9462]

Well that because the old specs that sill runs I can call that is not a scam it is worth it for 175 dollars it performs better than the Chromebook’s at least.

[@highroad446]

The poor kid who gamed on that thing for 5 years and just thought he was terrible at video games...

[@Zeroneii3]

you can get way better for 200 or so dollars 1650v4 z440 with ram for about 110$ rx580 8gb for 50-80$ ssd for 20-50$ 180-240$ realistically closer to 200$

[@michubern1444]

Case? Fans? Power supply?

[@Zeroneii3]

@@michubern1444 z440 is a prebuilt it comes with fans, a 700w power supply, etc

[@rob52381]

Lol they raised prices!

[@shanonopperman3066]

What app you using to see performance of ur hardware?

[@lonzofalonzo13]

It's $249 now