Walmart Has a Gaming PC Scam Problem....

[@PinkyTech]

That’s nuts that people can just hijack listings like that! Feel bad for the company that they have to constantly deal with that.

[@mannydcbianco]

Yeah it's effing absurd that it works like that and is _allowed_ by Walmart to work like that. Extremely shady. They're so desperate to compete with Amazon that they're allowing hordes of scammers to use their platform without even checking and verifying the legitimacy until they get enough customer complaints.

[@robertmurray4826]

fill bad for a company that takes pc's from old office spaces from 2003 and putting decal and rgb on it bam new pc there scum bags imagen all the people that got either one of them good for minecraft if your lucky better play lemmings on them

[@moji3812]

Yeah

[@eboyicecream1305]

@@robertmurray4826refurbing them for reuse instead of being put in a landfill is great. Not to mention all the parents who just cant afford or arent willing to invest/research in a proper pc. These guys are doing good things.

[@cherryappleproductions5822]

Feel bad for the customers

[@HyperLethal_xc]

that’s actually a very awesome interaction between two companies

[@chemj0e2003]

i have MAJOR respect for company coming to your shop to make it right/clear their name. props

[@christophert320]

Massive respect to these guys for going above and beyond to get this sorted. Really sleek looking style as well. Well done all around.

[@Joreel]

Says a lot about their integrity that they're going above and beyond to make it right. Much respect for them 😋

[@TheOmegaRiddler]

Respect for giving these guys your platform to explain the situation

[@steveseybolt]

OUTSTANDING! This is why I watch you guys. The fact that a Small company like yourselves reached out after seeing your video shows YOU Make a difference if the Space. Keep it up Bro's !

[@BowsettesFury]

This makes me so happy faith in humanity restored. I don’t buy anything from Walmart like this, and was betting that the first vid was a scam. And also to say it’s criminal is accurate not over exaggerated. It’s an out right lie to the customer and Walmart is basically catering to it by not curating their listings. It could change but I doubt it, because going to a Walmart now is basically live action wish shopping.

[@scarlettv213]

they are completely right about vinyl I work with vinyl on a daily basis and it wasn't easy at first it took me a year to start getting good to the point where I can fix my mistakes easily and be able to cut the edges nice, It really is an art form

[@DuneRunnerEnterprises]

It's the bubbles game, right 😂??

[@QWERTYQwertz852]

I feel really bad for the company that the listings can so easily get hijacked. Because the guys from the company sounds very nice

[@XplicitSoulProds]

Props to you guys and BTO for clearing up how this is happening everywhere!

[@brian_sipe]

BTO didn't have anything to do with this video, that's the company SJ computers branded their PC with/worked with.

[@AmaraTheBarbarian]

IDK man it looks the same to me, an 8 year old consumer quad core, a gt 1030, 512gb SSD, used 1tb HDD, and I presume 16gb of RAM... These guys can say what they want about the effort put into giving that PC their unique spin aesthetically when reworking it, but is it really truly any different from their listing that got hijacked? Did we think or ask about their thermal paste, or check the date on their hard drive? Nope, because they delivered something that looked like how it was listed, they gave you the eye candy, but we don't really know if they did a better job or if it just looks like they did. Hijacking their listing is super messed up especially when what comes looks nothing like what was advertised, and that's gonna upset people, but this whole making an old office desktop look new thing is putting lipstick on a pig.

[@kenthue4386]

Great Video! Glad you are exposing scammers and liked hearing it going up the chain at Walmart. The pictured computer they brought over looked great. More office computers into gaming computers please.

[@jeffreyoldham55]

Thanks for making this video. The same thing happened to me earlier this year. Purchased a refurbished gaming PC from WalMart and a computer with an entirely different case arrived from SJ Computers. I went round-and-round with them just to get them to admit that what was shipped to me was not the computer listed on-line that I bought. I had SKUs and screen-shots of everything as proof. In the end, someone finally agreed that the computer had been mis-represented, and said that they would make it right, but with a different case. I thought: how is it possible that WalMart can sell a computer and just throw a picture out there for a case that doesn't exist? I had grown weary of the entire process, and dealing with these anonymous, shady, sellers, so I finally just conceded, and kept the computer, rather than deal with these people. Lesson learned: I will *never* buy either a refurbished or new computer from WalMart ever again

[@jordanmntungwa3311]

The audacity to call that other fake computer an Upgrade

[@DiyintheGhetto]

It's great to see a Company that saw this problem and wasn't even there problem. Hurting there business then stepping in to fix this problem. I give them a lot of respect not many companies would do that. Also I'm not a big fan of RGB on computers anymore. It was played out from the late 90s into the 2000s as we use to mod everything. However I'm a big fan of taking older computers and breathing new life back into them with decal stickers and even RGB lighting as well as more memory and hard drives. I myself would love to see more videos like this.

[@annagramgaming8934]

What is infuriating is how hard it is to shop Walmart, Amazon, or any place like that. From $768-$784 price range of "gaming computer", there is 11 pages of items, of which the PC in question is but one. You see the same darn thing over and over and over, with little, if any, variation. I have no idea how anyone that takes pride in their work is to compete in that sort of environment, but best of luck to Periphio on that.

[@sneakygreenguy]

Both the "base" machines are different HP SFF PC's, I've seen plenty of them. But the real refurb PC here could honestly pass as a HP Omen with the facelift it was given, mad props for the design and keeping things out of landfill.

[@lwhite0821]

Very informative guys! Great job to the company for standing up, I have a lot of respect for them!

[@axtran]

I tried buying a laptop on Amazon and SJ was all up in there selling defective Dell laptops! Terrible experience with their support trying to make me even pay for return shipping. Took me talking to like 10 different people for them to send me a return label...

[@shodan6401]

Yup. I've been on the original big platform and had people just steal our images and literally copy/paste our text. Because our email was in our text, victims would email us about problems with the item they received from the thief. We'd scour our records and realize that they didn't purchase from us at all and have to explain it to the poor, unsuspecting victim. The problem is that those marketplaces always devolve to the point that it's simply not worth it. If someone sees that you're making a nickel, 100 people will copy you to make four cents, then three. Then there's always the noobs who you realize are undercutting you at a loss - they're actually losing money even if they don't know it. And so any margin is ruined for everybody. At some point, it's just not worth it....

[@bh0llar702]

this would be a great investigative piece on the channel to go more in depth on. So basically, when the buyer clicks on a pc and selects a different variation, graphics card, cpu, etc instead of their pc it takes them to a competitor with the same pic of their pc. they mistakenly buy the competitors pc

[@LatitudeSky]

Very cool to see them set the record straight and what they are making is a true value-add. Most VARs never go anywhere near this effort. Hats off to them for doing it, for standing up for themselves, and for PCBros for giving them a chance to come on. Technically these are competitors but clearly it makes a ton of sense to cooperate and get the word out. I knew about Amazon's comingling fraud problem. Amazon has shipped me counterfeit merch serveral times because they don't validate anything. If you say your fake is really and truly the same item, they trust it and sell it. Walmart seems to be the same. Sad. But not shocking.

[@DuneRunnerEnterprises]

Great guys, good initiative about resolving that nasty situation!!

[@desertraider]

Excellent video. Small reputable companies are being hurt by those who care about nothing than making a buck. Good for these guys coming by and explaining the situation even if it wasn't their fault. Informative for sure.

[@beauporter8440]

Love it. So glad these aren't turned into instant e-waste. More of this type of content please. It actually makes me wanna buy one.

[@holymolydonutshop3449]

That was dope asf that they were willing to come to you and explain what happened. And even cool that you guys allowed them to come and correct it.

[@thesalazars1580]

These guys need their own show they are good! Bring them on us guests more often!

[@obcdeath1]

damn smart of those guys free publicity.

[@2528drevas]

That was cool. I flip PC's basically as a hobby and to fund upgrades for my personal and families PC's. I take pride in my builds and when I see people listing dirty, dusty, musty, crusty, PC's it pisses me off. This is a whole different level though. I'm not sure "criminal" was hyperbole. Fraud is fraud.

[@mrbigrudy1605]

hats off to the real seller that stop at the TB HQ. they really do care about there customers and there business. that is what you call above and beyond.

[@blodyholy_]

Informative video. Obviously that builder/seller takes pride in their work - great to see them come by personally!

[@KiraSlith]

So what SJ/BTO is doing, is both considered a form of Tortious Interference, and outright False Advertising. They're purposefully misleading customers about what they're ordering, while actively interfering with sales of the legitimate product. Definitely reach out to real legal council.

[@ClipzzYT]

Buying pre builts off Walmart to begin w is crazy 😂

[@IAmAMonkeLol]

Many people don’t have enough money

[@RainyFoxUwU]

@@IAmAMonkeLol being smart with your money isn't up to random companies. If you're down bad like that, you can make it work with a little effort. problem is ppl get overwhelmed and buy a prebuilt when they would be better off sourcing parts themself. They give up immediately

[@ClipzzYT]

@@IAmAMonkeLol actually most ppl are overpaying for what they get from these random companies. It’s cheaper to buy the parts separate and build yourself. Anyone can do it if you just watch a couple videos. Stop seeing rgb and thinking it’s automatically a top tier computer.

[@aaronhotchnerzoltfbi8085]

Yea at first, I was worried but now I'm over here trying to learn everything I need to build a pc. Feels a lot safer to be honest plus you'll be able to find any issues and fix them. Your pc would be exactly how you want it to be.@@ClipzzYT

[@CalebGutierrez-u8c]

It’s not always I going on w with an rtx 3060 and a Ryzen 5 5600 16g ram 650watts ddr4 for only 800

[@PKGaming-cv2gb]

Wow, that's an awesome video. About 7 years ago, I used to sell stuff on Amazon for a few years The same thing happened to me, which led to me getting banned. This made a big impact on my life, and I was never able to recover from it.

[@cecilb7927]

Absolutely keep up on the RGB office computers, I find the videos entertaining and informative. I would prefer to buy an off lease office PC and upgrade it myself, but I do get asked from time to time by people I know about inexpensive, yet functional PCs, and they almost always have seen these sorts of rigs and are interested. It would be great to know which sellers are putting out a solid product, and which are selling dirty junkers.

[@samuellopez-je9nw]

Thanks for the PSA great work guys!

[@johndouglas8846]

After watching the original unboxing it was an obvious scam. For the correct company to step up and bring you the correct product was amazing. Their product is difficult to replicate and could be an opportunity for both organizations to work together and create more customization for any system. Kudos to Toasty Bros for being open, honest, and transparent with your audience. Your videos are entertaining, meaningful, and educating others all while having good clean fun for everyone. please keep posting on this or any other streaming platforms. Thanks once again...

[@SpaceGamblerJR]

One thing they should of said is we are limiting E-waste by trying to redesign these old office PCs but make it clear what you are receiving and not trying to fool anyone.

[@mr.guillotine3766]

I'm not sure that the word "criminal" was too strong honestly. I think it should be criminal. Walmart and other marketplaces should never have allowed this practice in the first place!

[@moonbladem]

So nice of Blair Tech to do that, even though it was some other company who took over their listing. I'm not sure how this Walmart marketplace works but they should fix it so people can't swoop in on someone's listing and scam customers, because all this has taught me is to not buy anything from the Walmart marketplace.

[@blakespower]

hopefully walmart executives will watch this and correct it

[@rehull1973]

Very cool. It's a damn shame companies are essentially stealing this companies customers and defrauding the customer at the same time.

[@infinitecaptchaloop6926]

They should team up with these guys

[@skylerturner6303]

This was actually fascinating content. Nice work PC Bros.

[@vereybowring]

Working the carbon fibre pattern vinyl can be tricky at first. A big part is have it warm, just above room temperature, (a hairdryer or low heat heatgun when you're going round corners also) which makes it more pliable and to get clean cuts/edges I use a scalpel and metal rulers. Make sure the suface is as smooth as possible using glass/sandpaper, you want no bumps or dips, filling dips/dents with epoxy putty can be done if you're used to it but it will also need to be smoothed down flush with the surface. Cleaning the surfaces first with 99.9% isopropyl alcohol helps as well since bubbles can partly be caused by dust particles getting trapped. When applying large areas start at one edge, detach about a centimeter (about 1/4 - 1/2 inch) of the backing, place along the chosen end firmly then use a medium firm sponge to flatten the vinyl while teasing the backing off the vinyl in a slow steady way all in one direction. Once one area is done you can cut and fold over edges quite easily to neaten up. I used to make custom vaping devices about ten years back and many used the same vinyl as a skin since it's fairly tough and gives a slightly grippy texture without being rough or spongy feeling. I wasn't great at it but was basically working on it on at my regular computer desk not a workshop area and not too frequently. Practice is of course a big thing getting it right.

[@whysoserious___3232]

Really great of them for coming out!

[@JerziTBoss]

TBH it's a criminal that someone can hijack a listing and damage original seller's reputation while also delivering a product that is different from the listing. There shouldn't be an option for other sellers to use someone else's listings. If listing shows a custom case I want that custom case and the PC I paid for. If I get different PC then I won't be happy even if it is a upgrade because it's not the product I paid for.

[@Kemulnitestryker]

i learned the hard way to never again deal with SJ Computers. They have absolutely no quality control and their customer service department is worthless.

[@NoobShiesty]

So they came to a PC company.. that sells Pcs.. to market their PC company. Toasty Bros are some nice gents to make this video

[@shanemcknight1583]

Very informative and bringing some things into the light of pc flipping. Not many have integrity in their dealings!

[@SouthbayCreations]

Now that is the definition of a real deal refurb modded gaming pc. Props to those guys doing it on a big scale. 🙌🙌

[@bloocheez3]

I was not expecting actual journalism in my silly scam PC video

[@ivanstefancic8938]

All you guys are being very calm about this... i know people that would get very aggressive about this type of bullshit

[@OutlawH2]

Like others said, Major respect for Blair Tech coming and making it right. Had a thought though, What about working with them to see if they could help design a one off Toasty bros take on the same machines for the PC bros store? What i mean by that is maybe having the side panel cut out in the TB shape and back lit like theirs.

[@97BuckeyeGuy]

Absolutely fantastic video. Thank you for letting these guys come on to explain the situation. It sounds like Walmart Marketplace is an absolute shit show. These guys seem to do a great job on their PCs and obviously care a lot about their name and their customers. Great stuff from both teams.

[@Dezrakaz]

When I buy a pc I am buying it specifically for the aesthetic and a way to get a cheaper GPU when prices are high. I can always upgrade a PC I bought if I want to keep the case, but having to buy a new case would be an unnecessary expense if the original listed one was what I wanted to begin with.

[@dylanlindsay1993]

thats crazy! id say make a few videos investigating the whole rgb office pc scam business!

[@jiggybucksington]

I mean you actually got a better computer with the first one. A G3 is definitely newer than a G1

[@MuhammadYaseen-lq1yl]

I would be happy if I get an upgraded expensive model than the one I have ordered. I hope other customers will too, but I suggest the sellers that are blair technologies and sj computers should resolve their matters between them and continue keeping up the good work.

[@brykit1972]

Such an amazing in person exchange! Classy all around.

[@NahBra_EUC]

Good explanation for the buyers to better understand some things to look out for when buying!

[@zero2dash]

I’ve bought a few mini HP PCs from Amazon that were from SJ Computers. No RGB though, and I didn’t have any problems with them. Disappointed to see this and find out what they do though with spoofing listings.

[@fourtwentynick]

Why didn’t you benchmark that Pc ?

[@MuhammadYaseen-lq1yl]

I watched the whole video till end to see that they will compare both desktops and will provide viewers with the best option between them for gaming in only $264. But didn't even hooked it up.

[@dionelr]

Look at Toasty Bros, growing up and doing exposés now. Great video on a little known problem.

[@charlesburris6314]

Even junkyards have thieves. 🤷‍♂️

[@kenny9088]

Is crazy that walmart and or amazom allows this stuff to happen. Those sellers just ripping of the picture tak ur momey and just send some pice or crap unacceptable

[@AcM.5233]

This was actually really cool to see them come with the proper PC.

[@livingretro79]

nice video i have one of these pcs i picked up a couple of years ago. good to see they are down to earth guys just trying to make a buck like the rest of us.

[@EinSwitzer]

Not bad , if I saw a heatsink on the south bridge I would of been super impressed

[@_Harlofr]

I have a computer from SJ Computers, Very Helpful Company But They Never Send The Right Thing, I got 6 pcs before they sent the right one.

[@davidmontezuma2476]

i enjoyed the colab... something different great video!!!

[@gnatsum1988]

Yes please I've been all over you say in all over the other sites looking for PCs like this and your videos have helped I would like to see more of it

[@DraftySatyr]

Not your usual style of content, which can/has become a bit formulaic, and all the better for it. Well done!

[@nicklasdamsgaard4655]

Cool story, but investing five digit number in making custom office pc cases and skins? Yeah sure refurb is a good thing, when the product is actually worth or at least decent... Office pc's isn't worth that much work, time and money, specially not when they are sold at 200-300usd a pop. If you could buy the case or re-use it for newer builds yeah sure, but i'm pretty sure you can't.

[@nedlyest]

They can get the PCs for like 25-35$ per unit and buy in in huge lots. So even if they invest up to 100 per unit, they are making a nice bit of profit at 200-300 per sell.

[@moviemakerwannabe]

How do we buy the computer that you were supposed to get without getting scammed at Walmart?

[@AlexHusTech]

*What a complex situation with a shared listing*

[@MomThemeatloaf89]

Love the roadkill Hoodie in the sponsor clip.

[@1DonFF]

That’s messed up man

[@gametime2473]

I really don't understand people's desire to have RGB on their computer. Such a strange trend.

[@WayneWatson1]

Maybe they should start watermarking their pictures & listings

[@blakespower]

I have bought stuff on walmart and they shipped it to the wrong person then when I rechecked the listing the seller no longer existed, walmart did give me a refund though

[@squirrelm3195]

The PC they brought looks really good. That’s a cool design.

[@thebest2897]

Talk about customer service! Hopefully they didn’t give away too many of their processes. They sound solid

[@NappyRB]

Buying stuff from Walmarts online sellers was the first mistake

[@itsdeonlol]

This was awesome to see them being very honest!

[@buhrdt]

So, now do a VS. competition between the two computers. I'm sure the real one could beat the fraud, but I'm just curious as to how much better it is.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Oh no, I just ordered a refurbished i5-8500 from SJ to replace my wife’s dinosaur celeron if I would have saw this first I would have passed. Hope I get a decent refurbished unit.

[@Adam-Mei]

To say its criminal was correct, the other company should have to pay restitution.

[@nebraskaninja1984]

Crazy reviewing it with them sitting there😂 13:31

[@andrewcole5662]

LOVE THE ROADKILL SWEATER

[@rickgeller6043]

BTO: Bachman Turner Overdrive.

[@tapiwachabika5023]

It's criminal. CRIMINAL CRIMINAL CRIMINAL

[@drinkypaul5235]

Game Testing Time.

[@gdoggy1678]

This guy has got to be Heavy D's twin.

[@dumpsterchild5734]

Yes it is very true I mean you could have a missed lading information of what a computer you are buying insert products you got to realize they're not always a perfect company they're always scamming companies

[@themistoclesnelson2163]

This is why I look into the companies I buy from.

[@SavageLevi-f6h]

i got this exact pc three months ago and i was soo disappointed i said F it and starting to build a 1000 dollar pc soooooo is there anything i can do to make this pc better or should i just ignore it and put all my focused on my new pc build the reason i ask this is because it will take me almost 3 months to build and no gaming

[@MuhammadYaseen-lq1yl]

Was this video about Walmart and SJ Computers and Blair Technologies or was it about the real Gaming desktop? If it was about the real Gaming desktop that you have ordered then where is the review and benchmark of the desktop? I watched the whole video to see the aesthetics and the performance of this real desktop just like you did for the other one but no luck.

[@brettsinclaire6968]

Great video 👍 I whuld love to see more of this type video great in-depth video

[@joshuahoskins8024]

I think it’s nuts it took toasty bros to take down these guys…. It’s been going on for years….. I almost bought one a long time ago but read all the negative reviews I’m glad they came to clear the air

[@nedlyest]

I was hoping they were going do some testing on the actual pc.