How is This Possible? | AlphaZero Shows Us the Way

[@josephrose8920]

I love when it's like - you could move this pawn one forward but....proceeds to show an entire alternative game showing how much of a fool you are for even considering it.

[@brunesi]

Yes me too. However I'm rarely able to see this deep in the tree, that's very informative.

[@compulsoryevacuationdevice]

Bruno Marchesi You do realize that agasmator has the chess engine moves on the screen in front of him right?

[@silentoccasion4359]

Yep, just goes to show the level of play in the 3500 area of classical chess

[@Safwan.Hossain]

@@compulsoryevacuationdevice yes

[@SMail_stats]

One day Alphazero will start beating its opponents with Evan's Gambit

[@groussac]

More to the point, if we keep watching Alphazero videos, maybe we will start beating our opponents with the Evans Gambit. Or if that doesn't happen, maybe we can last longer when we play it.

[@dejavulearning121]

There is a game that A0 won playing Evans Gambit.

[@graphixkillzzz]

@@dejavulearning121 vids or it didn't happen >_>

[@SuperSaniyat]

lol for now let alpha-zero remain an English genteel...!

[@dejavulearning121]

@@graphixkillzzz Lets wait for the Aga's video o you just can look for it, it is in the 100 games with opening book that Google deep mind shared on their web page, this way dude deepmind.com/blog/alphazero-shedding-new-light-grand-games-chess-shogi-and-go/

[@gyokeres31]

"Alpha doesn't mind" I see what you did there

[@MalikBux]

Does Alpha have feelings?

[@clivewarren3403]

Chess is Alpha's talent, but is it really Alpha's passion?

[@everettworld1765]

@@MalikBux No, Alpha is made by company called Deep *Mind*

[@iwilldefeateverysinglejust3826]

@@MalikBux if alpha does its *Detroit become human* irl

[@erikhjortsater5461]

Malik Bux - Deepmind

[@Harriet1822]

"However white plays this, this will be a winning endgame." You've never seen me play.

[@jamessteale805]

Stockfish says it’s a draw

[@alon3304]

@@jamessteale805 that's why it lost

[@stevebuhrt3504]

Even 2 years later, I still cannot fathom how Alpha was up a WHOLE PIECE against Stockfish.

[@AIWRLDOFFICIAL]

What about another 2 years?

[@mikemoore2791]

Alpha is better duh. 😂

[@jacksonpope3955]

I have a silly idea on how to determine the World Champion: whomever lasts the most moves against AlphaZero.

[@luciferlight5082]

I could beat alpha zero with my eyes closed and no Queen

[@bruceward9412]

You mean like a pinata?

[@gdal6961]

AlphaZero vs AlphaZero would be interesting

[@evasivoarcane744]

Go ahead, let me hold your beer

[@lipikadebnath9846]

@@luciferlight5082 how?

[@nickmueller1301]

My favorite four words: “Stockfish resigned the game”

[@niterainbow47]

I like, "now stockfish is trying to escape with its King"- more fun when it thinks it still has a chance.

[@MegaUnwetter]

But until now Stockfish is much stronger

[@thepanchamcode]

How does an engine resign?

[@sergeantecho3587]

pancham singh It has a resign function lol

[@medexamtoolscom]

@@niterainbow47 Well it doesn't know what it's playing against. So why wouldn't it think it has a chance.

[@humanrightsadvocate]

3:40 Alpha Zero approves GM Ben Finegold's imperative "Always play Kb1!"

[@dyssemiamoeba718]

And "Rawr"

[@thewiseguy6750]

The AlphaZero style of play refutes the common ground of our era that one has to play safely and defensively like the engines pre-AlphaZero. This makes me hopeful that the least interesting and most boring era of chess will be over soon. Great job once again @agadmator, show us as many games from AlphaZero as you can, we love this machine!

[@focusaddiction3460]

Chess is over, the WC was proof of it.

[@comicbutserious263]

The Wise Guy Actually i wonder, what happen when alpha play itself, does he still play aggressively or does he only play aggressively because of stockfish innacuracies

[@motazal-hyari692]

@@pandabear-k7e i think if we reach a perfect game then who ever is white will always win

[@thewiseguy6750]

@@focusaddiction3460 AlphaZero makes me believe

[@thewiseguy6750]

@@comicbutserious263 That is a great question and I was thinkinh about that too. I think that this is not because of Stockfish inaccuracies because many of AlphaZero's sacrifices come from pure positional, intuitive play and not from accurate calculations.

[@bruceli9094]

Alphazero is the spirit of every great Chess player who has lived.

[@brunesi]

It's great and surprising in being exactly the opposite. _We_ have been granting values and points to openings and pieces, whereas it is fully oblivious to that.

[@Amer1kop]

the Ultra Perfect Cell of chess

[@florin.lupascu]

"I don't think that an artificially intelligent system that has superhuman intelligence will be violent. I do think that it will disrupt our culture." - Gray Scott Well, no... but AI will not hesitate to sacrifice some of us in order to get some activity or a better postion! :D

[@inikous58]

AI is definitely scary..But also very helpful to our civilization..

[@scowell]

Read The Forbin Project... they dealt with this in sci-fi way back. Movie 'Colossus' was great too.

[@MatsMatsuo]

very scary if you are a chess piece

[@inikous58]

@@scowell Check in youtube Neil deGrasse changes his mind about AI.

[@inikous58]

@@MatsMatsuo xD for sure! Maybe i would love to be AI's King no homo

[@ondravisek463]

Would love to see game Carlsen vs Alpha, courious how much moves could Carlsen stand

[@firhanstyle8271]

Yes

[@mrmarkstv6585]

If Carlsen came really prepared he would hold I think to move 30-40

[@adriantura7227]

i think he can maybe hold it to a draw, since stockfish relies on pure calculation, but carlsen besides calculation has very strong intuition and natural talent.

[@dixitjain1726]

@@adriantura7227 Draw with Alpha !! You high or something? You don't need intuition when you have each possible move and its counter move in your memory ...

[@K4inan]

@@dixitjain1726 It doesn't. That's like a trillion trillion trillion moves lol

[@wreckim]

This reminds me of my friend/tutor for calculus, some 30 years ago,; when he'd do an example with me, it was like...."of course that's how I would integrate that problem!". Then the test day would come, and I'd be back to scratching my head. What's incredible is how easy this looks, and no human would probably find these combinations....even from Stockfish, let alone AZ. Thanks for posting.

[@yo4156]

he didn't practice enough

[@danwinters3397]

It’s amazing how alpha made stock fish play passive and use the queen as a defensive piece the whole game

[@mikewilownu]

I like the first move after the opening, where he retreats his bishop back to e1. It almost like he just joined the table at that turn and is like: "Sigh, what have you morons been doing up until now. For god sake, what is my bishop doing at c3 you morons?" And instantly moves it back to safety. This really convincingly shows that Alphazero really disagrees with what we consider "optimal" opening book theory, that has been studied endlessly.

[@terryqu4822]

lol!

[@brunesi]

I've seen more than once Alpha preferring to retreat bishops, either for better repositioning or declining knights exchanges.

[@judahbenschar6911]

When did it make that move?

[@CalmaxFilm]

Absolutely agreed, I even find the bishop move funny.

[@shan_2933]

​@@judahbenschar6911 the first move out of the opening book around 2:30-2:40

[@apaajaboleh104]

You know something's wrong when SF is running away with the King.

[@WannesMalfait]

When stockfish started to run with the king, I started to laugh.

[@GuanTones]

i love how alphazero takes stockfish out of his opening prep everytime. maybe i should aim to do this more often in my games

[@benjihuynh2970]

Can you analyze the game where Stockfish plays super aggressive and wins?

[@chair3736]

Benji Huynh those were the games where alpha had to play bad openings

[@joeb4142]

The analysis was so fast paced and thorough my brain hurts 🤯

[@richardfeynman5560]

I was positively surprised to see a new video on your channel today, Agadmator, despite the fact that you are not feeling really fine. I hope you will soon feel better and thank you very much for showing this interesting game!

[@nate.t1739]

It's so refreshing to see an engine that prioritizes space and mobility. Stockfish, like karpov, prioritizes constricting the opponents mobility. It gives me the impression that there is at least room for us mortals to gambit pawns for initiative.

[@Varney_of_London]

Lol!!!! Once freed from the prepared starting position, Alpha IMMEDIATELY started playing different moves than the human grandmaster played before. This is one of the reasons why some of Stockfish's wins over Alpha are bogus; they are making Alpha play garbage openings that it hates (like the French and Sicilian Najdorf; Alpha has decided these are bad and won't willingly play them, but Alpha is being forced to play them anyway)... Alpha immediately going in another direction from what the humans set up in this game makes me believe that Alpha doesn't like this opening/starting position either.

[@scowell]

From the description it was unclear to me which engine used the book... was A0 forced to be on book?

[@Varney_of_London]

@@scowell Yes...book openings were forced upon both engines. In this game, for example, the first 12 moves for both sides were forced upon them.

[@kimcheekumquat]

Alphazero without opening book plays Berlin defense near 100% of the time against e4 and white is usually always c4 or d4. Doesn't like e4 that much. Seems like e4 e5 is too drawish because of the berlin

[@terryqu4822]

lmao

[@terryqu4822]

@@kimcheekumquat berlin play rates probably tripled after alphazero

[@alijaafar5673]

the truth about alpha : it's Fischer in heaven

[@jacksonpope3955]

Lol nice one

[@07aniketdeysarkar26]

No , not only Fischer. Fischer , Tal , Steinitz , Botvinik , Morphy , Alekhine , Nezmedinov , and blah blah blah blah. Alpha is insane , just insane.

[@janehrahan5116]

@@07aniketdeysarkar26 Alpha zero is using one for all, channeling all the powers of previous chess attackers.

[@kasparov9]

+52elo on 1000 game match is hardly insane. They had 839 draws, it shows how strong the older stockfish is too, Stockfish 10 has like 110 elo over stockfish 8, so maybe this can be the next match. @@07aniketdeysarkar26

[@palakneelansh9290]

NO NOT FISCHER . ALPHA WOULD BEAT FISCHER IN 10 OR 11 MOVES . MIGHT BE PAUL MORPHY AS ALPHA STYLE OF PLAY RESEMBLES MORPHY'S STYLE OF PLAY . YOU CANNOT COMPARE FISCHER WITH ALPHA.

[@teslathejolteon8007]

I've seen all released games of AlphaZero starting with the initial board position. As white, it only plays 1. d4 or 1. Nf3. It also likes to take on a certain position every game, really cool to see. Before watching the games, I thought that AlphaZero would always fianchetto is black fianchetoed on black's queen side, but AlphaZero does not always do that. There were four games where Stockfish 8 played black and AlphaZero played white and where Stockfish 8 would use 1. d4 or 1. Nf3. In two of those games AlphaZero used the King's indian defense! I did not know that it used the Kings Indian without the book of opening. There are a lot of enjoyable games!

[@dcwadu6126]

I want the quote on 7:27 on my shirt when I go outside "No mate threats are available"

[@jeffw8057]

The future engines will eventually adjust to account for AZ's willingness to sacrifice pieces in exchange for movement. Currently, this unique priority gives AZ a huge strategic advantage. It's going to be fun watching the future engines have to mitigate sacrifices versus movement advances.

[@RadishAcceptable]

Maybe the future engines will be coded by machines that are better than us at making chess engines.

[@jeffw8057]

@@RadishAcceptable Well, that might be true for software coding in general. Imagine even further in the future...when quantum, or whatever it will be called computers, are able to calculate every possible move in chess...and the game becomes equivalent to tic-tac-toe to computers.

[@bruceli9094]

@@jeffw8057 That would suck

[@Suho1004]

You are a hero, my friend. Please get some rest and feel better soon!

[@jeremiahblum7833]

Really loving this series, very exciting things happening in computer chess illustrated by these fascinating games. But agadmator you can take a day off you deserve it! Get well soon

[@madgick3]

Jeremiah Blum he took Saturday off already. He can't risk anymore days. AI are already trying to take over his channel!

[@Azraelfromgamefax]

Whenever I'm playing chess, sometimes I analyse it in your voice with your words 😅

[@preparedsurvivalist2245]

Alpha seems to keep available two separate ideas, one being pushing his center pawn, and the other creating a menacing mate threat on the corner square. Stockfish then needs to calculate these lines simultaneously, which is an daunting task. In the end alpha holds for a slight material advantage which will be winning in the end game. That is how a stronger engine grinds out a win with computing power.

[@DylanZapf-dm4mh]

I think what I most enjoy about these games is how I often naturally intuit some of Alpha Zero's moves, but I can't exactly explain why.. It sees the moves that I do, but it knows why it will make them as I don't necessarily. Brilliant games

[@abhir7823]

Could you analyze games where stockfish won ... There is the game where sf plays hyper attacking game with huge sacrifices

[@comicbutserious263]

abhi r Didn’t u already see that game though as u mentionned? ;-)

[@abhir7823]

Comic but Serious Er... Not seen any such game on Agadmators channel... Feel free to share link if you have ... Thanks

[@benjihuynh2970]

@@abhir7823 ignore him he's being mean. He's saying, "why ask for the game to be analyzed if you've already seen it yourself"

[@abhir7823]

Benji Huynh But Im telling him whats the point of watching a channel if you can analyze a game yourself 😀

[@HotBusDriver]

#suggestion

[@thomaskayfabian]

All the Alpha Zero Videos are fascinating. Please bring more of them!

[@MeediaArtur]

Oh man Agadmator loves chess so much. You can see the pride and joy of saying as of move .. we have a completely new game on the board :D

[@kyoopihd]

I just got done watching Anna Rudolf's analysis of another Stockfish AlphaZero game. I can't get enough of AlphaZero so here I am.

[@parkertownley-smith6109]

You my good sir are by far my favorite chess commentator of all time. Thank you for the content during finals!

[@geckomaniac3]

This makes my every day better. Thanks a lot for your daily content man :)

[@xDanKaix]

I would be very interested in seeing a line at 9:10 where black queen captures on h8 because you can’t simply block that check with rook or queen because then queen captures with check mate, so white queen would have to recapture but then rook to f7 would come with an attack on the other white rook and stop queen from checking on d5, plus queen would be trapped on the first row for the moment because if she moves then either rook to the first row would be checkmate. I’d be interested to see how it ends up playing out or if I missed something that would lead to a white checkmate.

[@ACR96]

Hey 4 years later, if black tries to defend checkmate with something like Qe5, then white can just play Qh7 checkmate!

[@wayneanddonita3857]

How can we be sure this AlfalfaZero ain't cheating? Maybe he's got Stockfish in his lip balm

[@PSspecialist]

@Richard Vaughn Or maybe, female players can simply be as good as male players and grasping at outrageous conspiracy theories makes one look dumb and irrational.

[@zaimwaqar2788]

@@PSspecialist I'm very sure machines don't have gender.

[@PSspecialist]

@@zaimwaqar2788 You missed the point. He was referencing a game where a female player beat a male player and some people accused the female player of hiding a computer in her lip balm.

[@zaimwaqar2788]

@@PSspecialistThere are people who think that someone cheated in a game of chess using lip balm? How would you even use a computer the size of lip balm?!

[@PSspecialist]

@@zaimwaqar2788 Yup. Then again there are also people who believe the earth is flat and that vaccines cause autism so why not. Preconceived notions can be powerful motivators despite overwhelming evidence.

[@trigintatres9787]

Svaka ti čast brate :) pozdrav iz šibenika

[@GoldenDragon1999]

You needn't apologize for being sick agadmator. Take care of yourself so we can have more quality chess content videos from you!

[@yacinmessaoud186]

i love what you do..i only hope you focus more often on Alehkine,Capablanca,Paul keres matches..thank you

[@osamaghunimi5118]

Get well soon man , thanks for the effort

[@SoB_626]

I wait for the day when Alpha will be able to inconspicuously hack into Stockfish's algorithm and alter SF play in a way that will allow Alpha to win spectacularly, through unbelievably complex combinations.

[@AstralS7orm]

Nah, SF is pretty well written. What it might find is some way to exploit Stockfish's defensive and reactive style.

[@copoftee1914]

It feels good to watch your videos Well today is my birthday but I wanted to watch an agadmator video😊

[@scottalbers2518]

Your analysis of these games is just fantastic!

[@jootpepet]

I feel almost the same way when im watching a Magnus game. Almost like watching Alphazero while everyone else is just Stockfish.

[@thejuggler42]

Your commentary is fast but also really clear, cheers.

[@yuyurtrtrt2160]

Glad you're feeling better! Also, can we please see some games where Alpha loses? Would be incredibly interesting to see how exactly they defend.

[@swampwiz]

I remember my chess club moderator in high school (80s) saying about the then new computer chess games, "it's pieces are dangerous". Alpha0 is like nuclear bomb level dangerous.

[@Rozq]

This has to be one of the best analyses I have ever seen on your channel Antonio. The flu must have a positive impact on you ;p ;p kiddin', hope you'll feel better soon!

[@unisloth]

it's amazing to see how alphazero chose to keep the bishop pair after the opening, while stockfish chose the knights. stockfish's knight was not very strong in the end, while the bishop pair ended up winning the game for alphazero.

[@davew4304]

5 years later Agadmators analysis on Alpha is still the best

[@DippStickk]

I noticed alpha often castles last to see where stockfish castles. Aplha then castles on opposide side and then starts pushing pawns to stockfish kingside to create weaknesses.

[@italixgaming915]

9:11 Actually you can avoid Qh8# but it's obviously still a forced mate for White: Qxh1+ Qxh1 (threatens Qh7#) Rf1+ Qxf1 (threatens mate in 2 with Qf7+ then Qg7#) Rc1+ Qxc1 and now there is nothing against Qc8#. There are similar lines with Rc1+ and Rf1+ first or Qe1+.

[@abominablesnowman3494]

Aplha seems to use the bishop pair a lot. Learning a lot watching it.

[@bobjones4562]

In all of these videos the consistent element is that Alpha gets stockfish to take material to its detriment

[@scowell]

I think Jerry calls it 'fishing'... if you just let A0 train on SF it would end up being a SF-killer, not perhaps the best path to best play.

[@bobjones4562]

scowell can you explain more

[@scowell]

@@bobjones4562 Bob, Jerry explains it through this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWbIeH6tabmKmLc

[@purple_turkey]

It would appear that Alpha Zero’s moves “flu” over Stockfish’s head.

[@ezergilechimekazikura6855]

Alpha pushes hidden new meta into the world of chess. Magnificent.

[@vikramsrinivasan8176]

Strange game. Agadmator you are pushing yourself even during fever. Appreciate your commitment.

[@rjp63vip789]

Get well soon my friend! And keep posting these Delicious delightful chess videos faster than the speed of Light! Awesome work! I'm becoming a grandmaster of chess because of your plethora of chess masterpieces you share! You da man!

[@srend5510]

alpha's positioning is just flawless.

[@janxeh]

Hilarious when Alpha is dominating your position so much your absolute best calculated move is to run with the king.

[@aliazmat7665]

Wonderful, yesterday Suren showed a game where stockfish simply crushed Alpha zero by offering to sac its queen, rook and everything. Alpha failed to handle this and resigned on only move 22. Yes, you read it right, Alpha zero resigned. Don't skip that game.

[@dejavulearning121]

it was when alpha zero gave the 100/1 time odds to Droidfish that Strange things started to happen.

[@StephenBriggsby]

He commendably apologizes for coughing a bit but refuses to banish the dog from the room.

[@GlowingCrystalGirl]

where is the happy face with sunnies?!

[@07aniketdeysarkar26]

They have resigned in this position.

[@GlowingCrystalGirl]

lol - i get they resigned.. where is the happy face sunnies pillow? last seen on Dec 5th...

[@palaceofwisdom9448]

@@GlowingCrystalGirl I think that last defeat when Medo knocked Smiley off the couch with his butt was too much and Smiley has refused to continue the match.

[@fullMontyist]

Antonio sacrificed it for the Evans' Gambit.

[@johnnyspousta3136]

Got captured.

[@weoweoteo]

3:45 A prophylactic move indeed! Nice choice of words there :p

[@dhanarputra555]

Modern chess era will ended soon. We'll back at Mikhail Tal era at least.

[@ericoschmitt]

Maybe there will be more people playing 960 then

[@empessimiprimal1040]

Great video as always, please make another video of just the chess game without com because i would like that.

[@willdemeyer6397]

How can you not like this video. Well done Ant👍👍

[@konraddapper7764]

When looking at alpha's games I can't help but wonder. Do current gm focus to much on the matiral on and not enough on aktivity of there pices? They definitely dont screw this up in a similar way as new players. But maybe decades of looking at stokfishes recomodations as the "best " moves scewed their perception. If that is the case i cannot wait to see what madness will be on the board in 10 years from now when the worlds best player used alphas recomidations in training for an extended period of time. Am I going crazy or is this actually going to cause a massive shift in playstyle

[@thriquinox]

Good to see you not sick.

[@jonathanwalther]

Before the vid youtube provided me an adhesive cream ad. WTF?! Maybe the algorythm is concerned, viewers might crush their teeth watching our new AI overlord Alphazero.

[@Nagantios]

Really interesting offense from Alpha Zero. Hope you're feeling better, Agad!

[@spmcdade901]

Thanks for the fantastic game. Hope you feel better soon!

[@graphixkillzzz]

Alpha is hilarious, i feel like it's just playing with Stockfish lol xD i hope you feel better soon homie ^_^v

[@noahcrow8982]

#suggestion The German-British champion Jacques Meises, gets destroyed by the Caro-Kann playing against one of the founders, Marcus Kann. Jacques Meises v. Marcus Kann (Hamburg) 1885

[@apaajaboleh104]

I remembered when you were coming down too with the flu or something in the middle of A0 series. GWS, sir!

[@Jojo-xe5nb]

I love how in this channel Stockfish seems bullied by A0 even though it is among the best and most used engine

[@-zelda-]

Because video of sf losing = views

[@botflysimon3616]

Great game! Thanks for the analysis. Love your channel. Get well soon.

[@simontimothy7051]

7:37 what if Rd8 and making an escape route for the king and also the pawn is defended twice @Agadmator

[@michaelbergman1708]

One thing that I have noticed about every game I've seen from Alpha Zero is that Alpha Zero prefers to keep both of its bishops. I wonder how Alpha Zero would play without one bishop.

[@josephrejive4081]

It would be interesting to see how Alpha does when it's down material in the beginning.

[@MadMax0407]

You should add an evaluation bar.

[@christopherbrand5360]

Going for the family harmony points with: it seems my father-in-law was right all along… Brilliant!

[@abhijitchavan7950]

Alpha zero games were awesome.....I want some suggestions from you...As my son strarted playing chess since 6 months....It's regarding... Which books should be followed for chess, what we should do for improvement etc. He is 7 years old....

[@Requinix17]

AlphaZero's chess is so fun to watch

[@htmlman1]

Von Neumann proved a while ago that chess and games like it could be "solved" with a sufficiently advanced set of rules...I wonder if AlphaZero is actually calculating or simply approaching this set of rules from its training. Though granted I haven't bothered to read the white-paper for AZ...

[@richardfredlund3802]

Agadmator I have been experimenting with a line of the Caro Kann against Stockfish (level 8 on Lichess). I found a line which draws against it quite often. In ultra bullet against Stockfish level 8 the idea is to premove the lines, and get a time advantage, with reasonable position. It's possible to beat it this way.

[@richardfredlund3802]

for example: lichess.org/5U4HX5dLB7ov

[@richardfredlund3802]

in time controls longer than ultra it tends to follow this drawing line: lichess.org/hwugjyiBfP6d

[@anugataghosh7014]

Get well soon Agad...best of luck🤗🤗🤗

[@rain-kq9qs]

Whenever I watch your videos I hit the like button before watching them because I know that your videos are good.

[@stormbreaker7166]

"Alpha is just a beast" It plays like Paul Morphy!

[@victory_jade]

Hope you feel better agadmator! :)

[@WayneReich]

Hey, Agadmator - Did you get a new couch? Place is lookin great!

[@ComradeVissarionovic]

This channel is addictive....

[@SpaceCadet4Jesus]

@agadmator Would you consider changing the board color when going into variations and back, see how that goes? Unless one is paying absolute attention constantly, it's impossible to separate the actual game progress without replaying sections over and over. Or maybe some wording to that effect? I can`t be the only one here that gets confused..

[@flyingpenandpaper6119]

3:14 about removing the Black knight, why is Ne2 not possible? Sorry for the rookie question.

[@oldeconomist4235]

Great analysis. Thanks.

[@anteantekeert8235]

What about at 5:31 dxe4?! For Bc2 Ne5, for Rh1 exd3, gxh7 Kh8, looks much better for black than what was played