How Jurrien Timber Will Fit into Mikel Arteta’s Arsenal

[@captainnana3870]

I think one dynamic that Timber could help is we are playing KT on lb as more of a overlapping fullback like Ben white and then putting Timber on the inverted role that Zinny plays but on the right side, could be good to mix up the system

[@kariswangugi1985]

No, Tierney is not an Arteta type of defender, I forsee a central defence 3 of White Saliba and Kiwior when Timber is inverting and a central defence 3 of White, Saliba and Gabriel when Zinchenko is inverting.

[@kazielbonn]

​@@kariswangugi1985 To be fair if Tierney is not sold, what the OP said can be a tactical option. But yea, the much much more likely is our predictions. Kiwior for sure will usurp Zinny as first choice left back as he is by far a better defender. Both Timber and Kiwior have good passing range and accuracy, however TImber is a much better ball carrier. Both could start and take turns inverting. If both invert at the same time, that could give Rice the opportunity to be really high up the pitch to both press/cut off counters and be a goal threat. Having both start could really be a spectacle of flowing total football AND defensive solidity. Really exciting season ahead.

[@charliedavey3257]

Bet you were waiting a while to post this mate

[@StatmanDaveClips]

Yep

[@tobby_fabulous]

​@@StatmanDaveClipsniceeee 😊

[@mrp1127]

You can tell from what he said about Saliba. He's already played a pre season game

[@pung4759]

He might also be utilised as a inverted fullback like zinchenko so they can do both there in game in case the opponment marks out zinchenko. He could also potentially do that role and use kiwior on the left back for some more size potentially

[@fluff2027]

Yeah man - your videos are top notch Dave, as a fellow Dave it's to be expected obviously. Wonder what the best all time 11 of Daves would be. Seaman in goal obvs

[@soorajs5735]

Love your effort and work for this mate ❤

[@paulyoung7561]

Given that Saliba played yesterday, this video must have been recorded days ago. Still accurate analysis of Timber though 💯. Arteta is going to make Arsenal another dominant team like Man city.

[@kybroome]

I think everyone including Dave knows that Saliba is first choice but Timber will be probably back up RB and RCB alongside Tomiyasu basically ending Holding and Cedrics time at Arsenal

[@kazielbonn]

​@@kybroome I foresee a starting back four of Kiwior-Gabriel-Saliba-Timber. White will be 1st backup to both Saliba and Timber, Tomiyasu 2nd for both. If Gabriel needs to be replaced for whatever reason, then Kiwior takes that position and Zinny takes over at left-back. White, Zinny and Tomiyasu are so versatile that they will get plenty of game time. You're right in that Holding and Cedric are not needed and likely will be sold. Tierney's a tough one though, although not versatile like the others, he can be a good tactical option for when Arteta wants a classic touchline full back to provide width, but I feel sorry for him not being a starter at a top team and maybe should be sold this month if the offer is good.

[@kybroome]

@@kazielbonn I could see that happening but that's probably a good 18 months away.

[@grahambirch8563]

Nice to buy another player like Trossard who can play in 3 different roles, and good enough to challenge for starts in those positions.

[@ToddParker]

Statman Dave. You are great, right now though my face is in the palm of my hand. No. He will be The Arsenal's right sided back in competition and rotation with Ben White. Ben White will default early in season as Timber gets acclimated and training will determine who takes the job by default once Arteta believes Timber is finding his way into the team tactically; remember Arteta's positional play takes longer to learn. It is the type of system new signings need more time, there is no coincidence that Arteta year 3 had his team starting to "bang" just like he said the project would when he took the job. In fact, White is more likely to backup Saliba than Timber; yet both are versatile enough to offer tactical adjustment and depth chart rotation in 4 comps. This is just not going to happen the way you say it is unless Arteta needs to respond to major injury with Saliba; Kiwior is starting to show promise 1 year later and the timing is not coincidence as teaching positional play queues is more complex than people think if they have not coached it. Timber is higher quality, yes, yet it will take time and it is not happening at CB...this deal was made because of injury concerns to BOTH Tomiyasu and Saliba; Arteta likes versatility yet there will be a default and I don't for one second think he is coming in to take Saliba's job. His versatility with champions league will see rotation into the squad for all players listed, yet the default will not be Timber at CB. Wait and see. Either way, a proper signing; very excited as an Arsenal fan with the business they are doing.

[@brownistani]

He spent most of the video talking about Timber playing RB, so don’t know what you’re on about

[@ToddParker]

@@brownistani no, he really didn't. Watch it again. The graphic defaults him to RCB where Saliba is next to White and late in the video he even suggests he is coming in for Saliba when he asks, "what do you think, get in to the comments....will Jurien Timber come in for William Saliba"? It is quite literally the major premise of his entire video. Short summary of what I am getting on about: Timber's ball progression stats are 99% elite. He is being brought in to become the right sided Zinchenko. Statman Dave is covering this signing as a Man United Fan as though this is the same as Lisandro Martinez and it is not. Arteta will not use him the way Ten Haag uses Martinez. Here is another fact: Jurien Timber in the Dutch Eredivisie was 12th percentile on heading. For Statman Dave to say he is "not bad in the air" and say "there is room for improvement" is hilarious. 12th percentile. He is not a premier league CB. Can he cover with the right tactical balance deployed, perhaps. The eye test and statistics with understanding of what Arteta is looking for says this video is wrong. Let's watch some football, we can wait and see. If I am wrong, come back to me and tell me I am wrong...I will be happy to agree with you then.

[@brownistani]

@@ToddParker didn’t ask for an essay. Please take a class on succinct writing

[@ToddParker]

@@brownistani Then choose not to read it, this is a discussion forum and I responded. I didn't ask for your correction, yet I still got it.

[@brownistani]

@@ToddParker see, that’s the perfect length KZbin comment. A+

[@commentarytalk1446]

You're right Squad tactical flexibility is probably where Arsenal fell short and where they should boost this season. In addition all 3 are robust players able to play a full season with high energy levels which also bodes well. I'm still sceptical about their ability to equal their goals scored stat again this coming season without a central forward striker option of 10-15 goals at least contribution potential. Sometimes a team just needs the odd x-factor player who plays above the stats in critical moments. I think Pep Guardiola appreciates this too.

[@briansmith975]

What’s the evidence of need for concern re goals in the new season

[@briansmith975]

U don’t mention that white is more than capable of playing rt centre back ???

[@briansmith975]

Sorry meant for stat man

[@commentarytalk1446]

@@briansmith975 If Arsenal lose Saka or any of the forward players to injury, who comes in instead? So long as they have Martinelli, Jesus and Saka they have some decent goal-scorers but one injury will almost certainly reduce that. In addition, I think teams will probably adapt to them this season. Be interesting to see if Arsenal can become more balanced: Score when they need to and control the match when they need to.

[@murena10]

Our formation is 3-2-2-3 when attacking. One left back moves to middle and other stays CB. We saw that last season with zinny as inverted and White as RCB. With Timber we can do the same with otherside of the pitch making Arsenal more unpredictable. With RB moving to midfield you need your LB be more defensive and thats where Kiwior comes in. Kiwior Gabriel Saliba - Rice Timber - Havertz Odegaard - Martinelli Jesus Saka . 3-2-2-3

[@paulwhitehead1190]

Great video. I’m very interested to see how Arteta will use Timber

[@FinsburyPhil]

Definitely gives us more options - 4 centre backs (as Man City did towards the end of last season) and three at the back.

[@mrdillion9551]

This guy is the real deal.. your post is top-notch

[@darkkuspang]

At the start of last season I wanted CL football and real signs of improvement. This season I want to see quality squad depth to build on the foundations we have built. If we get a certified gunman up top we will win the league

[@islandnominees7386]

Evening. The notion that Timber is short is erroneous. I think his build confuses people. He is 6'. Martinez his former mate is 5' 7½".

[@richardtbrown756]

He's not 6ft 😂 Do some research 🙄

[@islandnominees7386]

@@richardtbrown756 Hi. Please take a couple of spoons of your own 'research' medicine. Timber is 182cm which is 71.64 inches. This is not short. 6' is 72 inches so no need to be unnecessarily pedantic and state he is 5' 11⁶/¹⁰", Bottom line is Timber is not short.

[@billoneill79]

Its going down We're yelling Timmmbbbeerrr

[@yamasama1]

I think Timber needs to be the one replacing Partey in central defensive midfield!! He has similar qualities to Partey! Ben White is the best RB and just as talented or more so he starts!

[@qwerty1994ize]

Thank God you’re not my coach. You sound unhinged.

[@Proteus1one]

Awesome analysis, Statman Dave! Thank You!

[@SilverSurfer5150]

Fantastic analysis, mate! You got my subscription!

[@wills.1978]

kiwior is surprisingly good technically

[@Maj1794]

Wouldn't be surprised if Arteta sees him play a similar role as john stones does for Manchester City.

[@Rwatcham]

That was fast

[@Baldur452]

The timber announcement was the worst-kept secret.

[@StatmanDaveClips]

@@Baldur452 maybe not quite as bad as Rice...

[@Baldur452]

@@StatmanDaveClips Rice will play one game and retire from football at the age of 34 if the lawyers keep the pace.

[@stephenwandete4465]

So the announcement also kept you waiting

[@StatmanDaveClips]

Still waiting on Rice I see...

[@omogboladeajayi5172]

@@StatmanDaveClips Saliba's back is back!!!!

[@markant9534]

@@StatmanDaveClips He`s working on his tan on some beach.

[@richardtbrown756]

​@@markant9534 🤔 He's at a training camp in Portugal 🙄

[@saheedadebayo7775]

This is scary 😮

[@mrlionrocks]

What else do arsenal need then statman?

[@makwenamashamaite5064]

Hey Stateman which signing are we missing after Timber and rice

[@daveryan2473]

Striker, RB, LB, backup 10 & the wing cover on both sides is weak. 200m this window and you could argue only a marginal improvement in one position for all that money.

[@slingshotdave6437]

Always worry about a centre back that is under 6ft in the Premier league. I also don’t think you can do a comparison with the stats from the Dutch league to the Premier league. Timber does sound like a solid, technically gifted player. I really hope he does well. Like the idea of him at right back or the base of midfield. I totally agree about how the squads shaping up.

[@virupakshawalla5734]

Martinez is actually good in air. Timber is actually poor. Timid and no timing Martinez is excellent in both timing and bravery. I imagine coaching will help but probably not playing as traditional CB. Can see us with 4 CBs at back like City at some point. And even change one out in game. Kiwior Gabriel Saliba and White or Timber looks likely in some games . In fact starred with that but White in Germany.

[@richardtbrown756]

Did you not see him/Ajax play in UCL under Ten Hag? Don't need to be brilliant in the air if you control most of the ground play/possession and attacking play. Arsenal only looked vulnerable when tired (lack of depth) or because of injuries (again, lack of depth). Timber helps massively!

[@rcmanization]

"he's got a decent ability in the air" Eh...he wins less than 50% of his aerial duels, which is a terrible number for a CB

[@事実陳列罪]

Timber will play left back more than right back. Essentially a younger Cancelo.

[@odairmonteiro5185]

No he wouldn’t, he covers for CB and RB or even DM.. he’s not left footed to play him at LB when we have Tierney and Tomi even Kiwior. He’s basically Saliba cover and able to replicate was Zinchenko does but on the right side

[@briansmith975]

No he has played left centre back but not for quite some time - 34 games at rt cb last season

[@honestarsenalfan7038]

I cannot lie, I thought we would go for someone talented but lower profile like Kiwior who would be less fussed with fewer minutes. This is a wonderful deal. With the risk of Saliba becoming Real Madrid good you want to have someone who can take over already present.

[@joeklin2712]

Finally we are buying tested and trusted players

[@FreddyMacT]

Lisandro Martinez is not good... let's not stretch here.

[@daveryan2473]

There’s a reason why both Arsenal and United went for Martinez last season and nether bothered with Timber…

[@jetfitness7975]

@@daveryan2473ummmmmm united wanted timber and went HARDDDD for timber last year. I’m a united fan dude. We spent the whole summer on timber and only went for martinez when timber said no. And arsenal went for martinez on her timber cause timber didn’t express any interest in them. That being said….. Lisandro martinez is world class and that dude is an idiot if he thinks otherwise

[@FreddyMacT]

@@daveryan2473 there's a reason Lisandro looks like a break dancer when he's absolutely embarrassed defensively.