How KDE Plasma 6 Was Made

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[@klaus4040]

I'm one of those Plasma 6 supporting members ;) Even updated to Fedora 40 early to get the Plasma 6 bliss on my Laptop (waiting a bit longer on my Desktop) and am super happy ;) So, Thank you and all the KDE developers and contributors!

[@IshayuG]

Me too. Donating to his Patreon and $20/mo. to KDE itself. Very happy to continue.

[@Daniel-wn5ye]

Thank you very much!

[@Daniel-wn5ye]

@@IshayuG Thank you very much!

[@no_name4796]

I was a gnome only user, as i tried kde versions before of 6 and i just couldn't live with it. Kde 6 fixed all the problems i had with the kde design, and now i understand why most people think kde is superior to gnome. Also on kde if you set the theme to dark, it's actually dark on all apps, while on gnome they aren't even able to get that right. That's probably the most infuriating thing which made me try kde 6

[@butmunchass]

@@no_name4796 Kubuntu 22.04 was stable but before that KDE was unstable.

[@esra_erimez]

I would like to thank everyone that works on KDE for such a wonderful desktop environment. I used to watch my dad work when I was a little girl and wanted to be a programmer just like him. He gave me an old Dell laptop with KDE on it. I didn't know what an operating system or desktop was but I loved it. It was like a magical land that I explored every chance I could.

[@TeleviseGuy]

This is a good update. Incremental, functional, generally good. I like the new panel configuration options and the new Overview Effect. Stuff like this is very useful and improves user experience for everyone. I also like the new beautiful wallpaper!

[@YERAFirearms]

Congratulations on the Mega release. It is now the time to encourage the developers community to port their plasmoids/themes to KDE6

[@ak49]

RIP 90% of plasmoids.

[@hnasheralneam]

I'm interested in doing plasmoid development, and porting old plasmoids, I just don't know how!!! The resources are awful or non existent.

[@iltrovatoremanrico]

You are all amazing, thank you for all your great work!!!

[@Spicysauced]

Good work guys! Looking forward to its release on Tumbleweed :) BTW big props to Nate for his sane, careful approach to design, he was absoluteley right about radical changes not being well received.

[@nategraham4027]

Thanks so much! I appreciate the kind words.

[@pamus6242]

Ah ! Tumbleweed and Fresh Coffee !

[@Maisonier]

Absolutely amazing 'documentary'. It's truly fascinating to see the passage of so many years and the intricacies involved in a project of this scale. It's a valuable lesson that endeavors like these require years of development and the collaboration of countless individuals; it's not something that happens overnight. With this update, it marks my first time using KDE as the default desktop, and it's fantastic. Greetings from Argentina, and congratulations!

[@EdToml]

Upgaded and it was almost flawless. Great job. I've been using KDE for ages (early 2000s) and some of the upgrades have been hell - this one was one of KDE's best.

[@DaisyAjay]

Plasma 6 looks and feels so professional. Well done to everyone involved, it really is a big step forward!

[@ppandgg]

THANK YOU AND THANKS TO ALL THE DEVS, NO MATTER HOW SMALL THE CONTRIBUTION WAS, WHO WORKED IN THIS PROJECT ♥

[@temari2860]

Thanks for all the work you and KDE does. And for the cat ears.

[@iodreamify]

What a big journey! Thanks for telling the story behind the scenes. And while i'm personally not as excited about floating panels and overview effects, i appreciate the hard porting work of the underlying systems, laying the foundation for further advances.

[@fowlteer]

Hey Nicco, thank you very much for your great commitment to this community project. This is not taken for granted, which is why I am more than happy to support you on Patreon. It is a real pleasure to watch your personal development - keep up this motivation! This thanks, of course, does not only apply to you, but to everyone else who contributes their great part as well. Thank you so much!

[@vadymmudryi7978]

Thank you for the great work. I do understand how much effort is needed for refactoring existing features and appreciate all volume of work you did for us.

[@archip8021]

Awesome to hear about the history! You are now my favourite KZbin channel

[@jarod3371]

Congratulations Nicco! You should be proud. The improvements are so much more refined. Great Work!

[@daapedrotti]

For the first time I'm using KDE and is really amazing DE. Congrats to all KDE team, I'm really impressed.

[@sonicsaviouryouwillnotgetm6678]

Just came here to shout a big thank you. Update from 5.27 in Arch went seemless. So far zero issues, only improvements. Thanks KDE Team!

[@only1gameguru]

Making me feel old. I started using KDE with KDE 2... It'd always been stylish and light weight

[@danielton9577]

I also started with KDE 2. Don't understand GNOME's current popularity. KDE is so much better.

[@prettysheddy]

Another great, interesting and informative video. I'm super excited about plasma 6.

[@jeffdooley5462]

I love the backstory and educational stuff re: KF6 and Plasma6. So fun and I learned a lot!

[@Nets..]

We hope that there will be further improvements to the design, interface, and various visual changes in Plasma 6.1, 6.2. I especially want to see new icons and new standard theme. It is also interesting to see a global redesign in the future Plasma 7.

[@kztuptuo7076]

KDE 6 is F*ing awesome love your work guys

[@thelanavishnuorchestra]

I'm not a KDE user, but I still enjoy your videos. I have a passing familiarity with QML from working with QT Creator. It helped me revive my 30 year old C++ skills.

[@gorilladev]

Never really used KDE even since my 1st days (late 90's early 00's) with free desktop environments my aesthetic really liked the GTK over QT , and still does. but I like to keep up with KDE even if it's not my cup of tea. I also use kdenlive so thats a thing . keep up the good work Nicco!

[@rumble1925]

Why have you stolen my face?

[@OSCrustacean]

I can't get over how amazing Plasma 6 is, taking what I considered rough edges with all the customizability that made the desktop difficult to use and making them so much more polished but just as powerful. I've never consistently used Plasma since I switched to Linux in 2014, and have used GNOME since Fedora 24, but I think this release will make me switch. Thank you to all the KDE developers for making the Linux desktop this much better! :D

[@pamus6242]

Nicco you rock! Loving KDE for 20 years since Mandrake days. Jakub Steiner is a magician but gnome is not what it used to be.

[@isoperimetrix]

Long video, but I loved it. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on a Plasma 6 release. Also cool Valve is helping. I love my Steam Deck and I'm happy it has a K desktop in the background. I run a Framework laptop.

[@flying-cacti]

I've had a wonderful experience with plasma 6 although the app store crashes a lot and the desktop layout resets sometimes after a restart. Apart from that, seems fairly stable but looking forward to some bugs being fixed. It is amazing, thanks for the excellent work!!!!

[@arnabbiswasalsodeep]

A really good insight of the dev process along with the chapters. Thanks!

[@DrathVader]

From initial testing on Fedora Rawhide it looks and feels way more polished and coherent. I expected some crashes because Rawhide, but amazingly I encountered none so far. Amazing work from the KDE team

[@unclerubo]

Congratulations on the milestone! Looking forward to installing it!

[@kaz49]

Yooo converting timezones in KRunner! That wasn't in the Linux Experiment video! Woo!

[@IshayuG]

Just installed it on Arch Linux using the unstable repo's (because they haven't pushed it out yet, but it's the release version) and I've gotta say it's really excellent. I'm actually so glad that Valve as well decided to get involved because the graphics stack in kwin was pretty dire, but now it's excellent. Huge win for Linux, gamers most certainly included. And yes, the Overview effect is fantastic. The only thing I could ask for there is the ability to group windows by which program they belong to, similar to the way it is on macOS, but it's still a huge step up and probably the best overview on any Linux desktop, and it blows Windows out of the water. Also really happy that it's not a radical overhaul but just a nice, stable rewrite with little added touches.

[@jesuschristislord6790]

when is 6 coming to arch normally?

[@GerhardADittes]

Thanks! 👍 Also looking forward to the revamped icon theme of Ken! 🙏

[@wido1085]

May I ask: What is the chat client you show occasionally throughout the video? :)

[@niccoloveslinux]

Telegram Desktop

[@dipi71]

Hope to give Plasma 6 on openSUSE a spin soon. Thanks to the KDE team and to you for all your hard work. Cheers!

[@sascha1461]

I switched my main PC to Plasma 6 today and I really like it. I was mostly using Gnome since I switched to wayland because I felt it worked better than on plasma 5, but I'm really really happy with Plasma 6, I think I'm gonna stay here for a while :) Only thing I still wasn't able to figure out is how to rebind my meta key to open the overview instead of the app launcher. It's not Alt + F1 and obviously I can't change it with the kde5 console command. Other than that I really really love the new overview, it's literally the only thing that dragged me towards gnome in the past.

[@373323]

first of all, congratulations , well done, can't wait to see the new plasma on desktop in front of me :-)

[@parlarsson5724]

Great work!

[@alternatuber6698]

Please add Wayland touchpad gestures for customizing! We need own gestures settings.

[@khaled.aldajani]

Yes! 4 fingers touchpad gestures are so uncomfortable to use for long sessions.

[@zekicay]

Hi Nicco, this is a great accomplishment! I'm just wondering when will Krfb become usable with the Wayland session? Right now it sends the entire framebuffer whenever anything changes on the screen.

[@christopherkurilla7458]

Fantastic job on KDE Plasma6

[@andyantares]

Thank you for you hard work!

[@plarpoon]

I was listening to Caparezza, noticed you uploaded, switched to your video and I see an extremely old picture of you with a Caparezza T-shit. My man!

[@temari2860]

One bit of criticism that bothers me most with Plasma (with Breeze mostly) is that it never feels coherent. Breeze is always in 3+ different styles as if always in some transition state to be modernized. Even in this release, the very new elements have very rounded corners aka mac/gnome, most other elements have slightly rounded corners, and many others go into completely sharp straight edge direction. Even just looking at the default panel: the panel itself is a round dock, the dialogs are slightly rounded squares, and running app indicators are plain squares. The overview effect is also a bit weird to me. Like it's very pretty and nice in the vacuum but it just looks out of place, and not because it's like gnome's, but because the rest of plasma looks completely different. I think the earlier mockups you showed when you were developing the overview looked gorgeous and inline with Plasma design. Some Breeze design updates went into making stuff more flat and straight, making interface less busy, which I think looks better. But some other changes go into more spacing, more rounded elements, accents and borders. Both aren't bad but they're different design directions in my opinion and the desktop looks kinda weird in the end. I personally wish Plasma would pick one design direction it wants to go with and stick to that, with some strict-ish design guidelines

[@ShaieneKun]

Great video!

[@Sharp931]

I loved the part when he said 'morbin time'

[@michadybczak4862]

It is amazing that for me, as a non-developer, this won't be of interest at all, and frankly, I didn't plan to listed to it fully or at all. However, YT played it automatically, I started hearing, was interesting and went through all of it without a problem. In short, great and interesting video!

[@wtfisgoingon535]

Congratulations for this big release :) KF6 changed lots of things for plasmoids, where can we see all the change? Because the wiki page about porting to Plasma 6 is pretty much not complete. I currently have to look all the qml files in the Plasma ecosystem to find some of them. Its always really hard to know of to do things because most things are not documented (to my knowledge).

[@abystus]

Great to see it finally released, but given the issues I'm currently observing, especially on the KDE Neon User edition (where you would expect the best showcase), it might have been wise to conduct a bit more testing before the release.

[@alexb8969]

It seems that problems in Neon are packaging issues, not Plasma 6 issues per se.

[@00REEEEE]

Legends and thankyou to KDE Plasma Team best Desktop Enviroment.

[@PDD555]

Thank you for the development! I can't imagine using linux as a daily os if Plasma didn't exist, I really like to be able to customize everything

[@simian3455]

dear god round corners is BRUTAL on overview... please tell me you guys are still doing iterative design work... but yeah looks glorious. I'm just a stickler for consistency details.

[@galisma]

Thanks for developing plasma :D

[@hcjkruse]

Thank you.

[@julesoscar8921]

Thank for this video!

[@Alex_whatever]

LoL I like how the mic dying was such a terrible hit to poor Nicco that he was unable to just re-record the section. 😛

[@niccoloveslinux]

Ahah you have no idea how long it takes to set up the recording environment

[@databug]

Please please please can you make it so that kickoff menu opens screen centered when it is placed in the middle of the panel. Like it did with KDE 5. Thank you for all the hard work.

[@Akselmoi]

It's been really fun to work with you on Plasma 6. Let's keep on hacking!

[@niccoloveslinux]

Of course!!

[@LaurentOutang-gg5yv]

Hi, I'm on Neon stable, I'm one those where the update to Plasma 6 didn't go well. Is there a way to get some help? I tried to post on the Neon forum, no answer so far...

[@merthyr1831]

KDE 6 was a pretty decent upgrade experience but I still managed to break it a few times as a Neon user. I think people who are on more stable distros will have a stellar experience!

[@vitormelo22]

Muito obrigado pelo trabalho.

[@playerone2772]

I hope KDE fixes the overview And by fix I mean: Taskbars/docks remain usable within the overview (as in gnome) An alt way of accessing apps while in overview (app grid, or a direct reflection of what you see in the start menu...) More customization of the blurring/visual effects

[@Derpingtonshere]

OMG OMG OMG He did the cat ears! I still think it should be a full time thing.

[@gibarel]

There are only 2 things I think plasma is lacking right now, which is 1) true tiling functionality and 2) better virtual desktops (like the ones found in tiling compositors, such a hyprland) So yeah, I wish plasma could be used as a true tiling compositor (or better yet, a tiling DE)

[@DCM777.]

Tilling is not the focus on Plasma. Give it some time.

[@oyora]

great 😊👍 I was reading the megarelease/6 announcement. I'm wondering, is there anything related to the plasma bigscreen in the roadmap?

[@MrAvanatiker]

Very good video!

[@sayanthtezro]

Hello nick. Would you mind making a video about how to build a linux application for KDE?

[@megadjc192]

My advice going forwards is focusing on color management and mixed sdr/hdr rendering. The feature set is really good and I think focusing on stability and robustness going forwards is the best path I think. I was on nvidia and Plasma 5 was a big fat fail. Plasma 6 actually works ootb and was actually really usable. So keep up the good work!.

[@sergeiborodin9254]

What KDE really needs is Wayland-compatible RDP server with proper hardware acceleration, compression, audio and multi-monitor support. All we have now is xrdp with crutches for pulseaudio/pipewire. GNOME did something like that. Make Linux remote desktop great again!

[@esra_erimez]

Great video! I just installed KDE Neon 6 on an old HP z640! It looks *fantastic*. It is still a little rough around the edges to replace my KDE 5 daily driver, but over all I'm super excited about it.

[@davidwayne9982]

I WAS VERY angry at first-- thought the " gnome stuff" RUINED IT.. and now after some time and watching a couple of others work it-- it's looking good. BUT-- I STILL MISS MY AUTO-TILING of Bismuth or krohnkite. I needed those. The rest looks GOOD- love the recorder, and some of the other BUILT IN things.. GREAT JOB overall.. and again- sorry for the initial anger.

[@sonphamthe2341]

will there an option to prevent the panel defloating when window is maximize / touch the panel on floating mode?

[@moenchbohne]

I asked myself the exact same

[@czhunor]

Is it possible to set up the panel widget popups, like Calendar, System Tray to always be showed in the floating way even if the panel is not floating? The panel is somehow more sensitive to be moved from floating to not floating mode when an app is closer then it was before in Plasma5.

[@Zinix_64]

Hey Nicco , Nice work on KDE Plasma I just recently switched to GNOME to KDE Plasma on Arch and i tried it out but Actually good work! Keep doing a good job on KDE Plasma 6!

[@XionicalXionical]

Great vid, love the content. Please put a bit more time into balancing your audio levels. Especially for the memes. I turn you up cause I cant hear you then go deaf cause the audio blasts out my speakers so I have to turn it down again.

[@gabrielecerini3357]

Ottimo, aspetto l'aggiornamento a kde6 dalle distribuzioni che uso

[@kremata]

FEATURE REQUEST: Transparency taskbar, Stretch wallpaper on all monitors.

[@sniper10754]

i love that caparezza shirt

[@MarceloMedeirosSoares]

Hi. My dear, could you configure mouse's scroll to run on the virtual screen (overview) like Gnome do? I think that this is a little thing to you and I think that the choice the screen on overview will be amazing. Congratulations!!!

[@tommyselbe1999]

🎉it is What it is 🎉

[@italienn]

Nvidia desktop has some issues but nothing major. My laptop running intel graphics has 0 issues I've noticed so far. VERY NICE.

[@_xolari]

Awesome job

[@DenimRojas]

what happened at 34:11? The sound is really creepy and hurts my ears and is way too loud, and from that point on the subtitles are really out of sync.....

[@bajiNdoel]

My neon got error can't logout, shutdown, restart. My krunner and widget from download can't launch to. Just waiting for fix. Many thank's for the hard work

[@pitape1822]

I got Plasma 6 with Nobara. Excellent but I stick to X11 for now. My games and pointer do play weird with Wayland...

[@Sketchuah]

You allways talk of work done for porting to new Qt version. What is done regarding to new C++version ? Thanks for your video.

[@typingcat]

Why does it have no trackpad gesture customisation? I thought it would be included in KDE 6, because Windows and even macOS have it. Someone else on KZbin complained that KDE has too many settings; I wish that were true for gestures.

[@niccoloveslinux]

Simple: no one had the time and skills to make it. I understand Windows and macOS have it, but maybe Windows and macOS devs are not KDE devs!

[@loggerboy9325]

Nicco have you've used kate in plasma 6 yet? Im on fedora 40 with plasma 6 and for the life of me I can't get Kate to recognize autopep8 I downloaded the python lsp sever and that seems to be working, Idk maybe I canfigure it out but Im considering on trying Kdevelop

[@MauriBT]

How can I change gestures with the touchpad from 4 fingers to 3 like any other DE?

[@Gskvj]

The background music is a little too loud

[@vadymmudryi7978]

❤❤❤❤❤ No more words

[@michadybczak4862]

Hopefully, the shadow bug from the panel is fixed in Plasma 6. I didn't have this issue on my old laptop, but then I moved to AMD laptop and noticed weird horizontal line flickering in the 1/3rd of the screen on all windows. It was very disturbing. My current solution was to switch to latte, which doesn't produce this effect. I recall you mentioning this bug where I haven't experienced it yet, so it was very vague and unimportant to me. I think this is the bug I experienced, but I can't be sure. Anyway, I'm still waiting till Plasma 6 comes out of testing in Arch, so I can't check how it works and if the panel shadow issue exists there or not. Hopefully, I will find out in a couple of days.

[@christopherkurilla7458]

Thanks!

[@naderz4064]

Very excited, kde on the steam deck is why after almost 20 years I tryd linux again, I like windows work flow and hate windows, I literally have everything I want with kde on linux, the number lol of "dummy friendly" customizations on kde is insane, gnome is pretty and looks solid but kde is for me, ty to all the people who work on it, and ty to value for the miracle of proton, 1.5 years into using only garuda and besides looking at other distros lol I'm staying put

[@adam91303]

A lot of different errors. Maybe in a month the situation will improve....

[@thebozzIDW]

I haven't had enough time to play with it, although I am literally using it now. So far it is a way better transition than KDE plasma 3 to KDE plasma 4.

[@yorimirus]

Wow, didn't expect the porting took this long. I thought it took like a year or when the blog post mentioning 5.27 being the last 5 version released.

[@Azarilh]

I dunno if it's added yet ( still watching the video but i dun wanna forget about this ) but i was wondering if we can get the panel that dodges the active window ( intellihide ). EDIT: Ah! You did!! Aaaaaaaaaaaa