How Kubrick Made 2001: A Space Odyssey - Part 5: Jupiter Mission [B]

[@angrykermit3192]

I hope everyone appreciates the amount of work that went into these documentaries. To get all those stock photos, sound bites, interview clips and then to edit and narrate it so well... Just amazing! CinemaTyler, thank you so much for all your hard work!!!! Oh, you know he did a good job when the thumbs up to thumbs down ratio is 1000 to 3... yup, you read that right, 1000 to 3. That has to be some sort of record.

[@cf6282]

I was amazed by the film. Really enjoyed the explanations behind it all. Never knew how it was done.

[@lucasoheyze4597]

I don't appreciate it, not one little but.

[@angrykermit3192]

@@lucasoheyze4597 Go troll somewhere else. Also, learn how to spell.

[@angrykermit3192]

Fuck off, Flixzone bots.

[@sasanvideoprod.6548]

Nice job man keep up the good sports you have done a beautifully

[@justimagine2403]

The scene where Dave turns off HAL is so amazing. Even when I was young I remember that sound of air in a vacuum and the slow memory glass drifting out of their slots. I can remember thinking, "What am I seeing?" Just stunning and amazing.

[@CinemaTyler]

I totally know what you mean. Such a powerful moment.

[@urdnal]

Imagine if it was made today, HAL would have had an avatar (because people can't connect with him otherwise right?) and he would have had all sorts of new abilities and controls over the ship all of a sudden, to throw obstacles at Dave on his way to the memory core to shoehorn an action scene. Ick. Instead, he does all he really could be expected to be able to do; locks Dave out and vents the ship's atmosphere.

[@sbonel3224]

@@urdnal Depends on the director ofc. If someone like Nolan would do it, I'm confident it would be really good. Whereas someone like Joss Whedon would surely add some of his comical nonsense to it.

[@3oldman]

Good to learn how these effects were done. I was always fascinated by the floating in space (9:09) stunt and how that was done. The most realistic, well-done space movie ever, and no annoying sound to cheapen it up.

[@abfsc]

This series really inspired me to go back and re-watch 2001 with immense, newfound appreciation. Thank you !

[@CinemaTyler]

+William Posner Glad to hear! Thanks for watching!

[@SpuddySpud]

I've watched this film dozens of times, and I still find it profoundly moving

[@francopedro4910]

I know Im kinda off topic but does anyone know of a good site to watch newly released tv shows online ?

[@phoenixmekhi6001]

@Franco Pedro i use Flixzone. Just google for it =)

[@kareemcallum4690]

@Phoenix Mekhi Yup, have been using FlixZone for since april myself =)

[@MrDoofbooble]

Why in the hell does this not have 10 million views? I can't imagine the amount of time and effort you put into making this. Thank you for putting out such quality content!

[@markloveless1001]

I always found HAL's "emotive behavior" quite consistent with the fact that the astronauts were selected based on their lack of emotional reaction, because that is is exactly what keeps you alive in high-stress situations as well as what NASA was quite deliberately testing for at the time. Test pilots were preferential for just that reason, keeping calm and distant while alarms rings and gimbals (and G's) tumble. Although Kubrick cut the exposition of that, those of us following the NASA program at the time (raises hand) knew that point well, as Walter Cronkite reminded us repeatedly. Oh, yeah, I spent the "summer on 69" on a blanket watching every last bit of the coverage. Wrote a letter to NASA asking about the "ghost effect" of the images - got a really awesome personal replly about how Slow Scan Tv worked.

[@SueBobChicVid]

The old computer singing 'Daisy' sent shivers up my spine.

[@objectivereality5613]

It has the affect Kubrick wanted. A superior intellect with child-like frailty that is the product of emotion. Exactly the same curse that burdens humanity.

[@michaelminch5490]

"I'm half crazy..." Not an accident.

[@xBINARYGODx]

@@objectivereality5613 that OP meant the real stuff, not the movie

[@rickharris323]

I don't know where to start. The film itself is a masterpiece, but your videos are nothing short of masterpieces as well. I'm in awe of Kubrick and what he accomplished, but I'm also in awe of your video series, the production quality, your analysis, your attention to detail ... nothing short of masterful and remarkable! Bravo to you sir! I first saw this film in the theater when I was 3 years old. By the time I was 10, I had read and re-read the novel several times. I've owned the VHS, DVD, and now Blu-Ray versions. There is something about this film that is greater than the sum of its ingredients, and magical ingredients they are. Time to watch the film again ...

[@richardmattocks]

As a dedicated 2001 fan and cinephile I absolutely love this series of videos. Great work and packed with great details that left me admiring your fantastic research and the film even more.

[@CinemaTyler]

Thank you! I really appreciate it!

[@heavymetalrybakina]

Where's part 6?

[@stephenericberry8920]

Absolutely agree! Fantastic series.

[@lanceforrest3634]

Do you realise, your admiration for Kubrick is making you Emulate his depth of detail these videos are the most sincere Hommage to Him I have yet seen... Rock on Brother..

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Interesting... I had no idea a human could actually survive in a vacuum for up to a minute. That makes an enormous difference in my appreciation of that scene! Loved this series. Thanks for your videos, CinemaTyler.

[@CinemaTyler]

+Vesuvi Timeaux It's amazing how scientifically accurate everything in 2001 was. We have to thank Fred Ordway and Harry Lange for that!

[@auntvesuvi3872]

+CinemaTyler They really did their homework, huh?! :-)

[@MattMcIrvin]

Clarke had also written a very short story exploring brief survival in a vacuum; while the scene doesn't appear in his novel, he may well have suggested it on the basis of that. I suspect that in reality, Dave would have been in rather worse shape than we see him in the movie, requiring immediate medical attention--but he could have made it across.

[@AvengerII]

Contrary to what you see in anime and other science fiction films, people DO NOT blow up in space when their suits or spaceships lose pressurization. Most space suits we use now are pressurized to 5 psi which is about one-third NORMAL atmospheric pressure at sea level which is roughly 14.7/15 psi if I remember correctly. A vaccuum/near vacuum (in other words, space) is ZERO. It's not that abrupt or a great a change so the body would NOT explode. It's FAR more dangerous to go down into the ocean in a minisub because the atmosphere doubles every so many feet. At the depth the wreck of the Titanic is at, for instance, the atmosphere pressure is 6000 psi (3 tons per square inch!), or 400 atmospheres. Contrary to what people think, too, bodies DON'T get automatically "squished" at 12,500 ft so long as they have time to adjust to pressure. They've found intact bodies of dead whales at many thousands of feet below on the bottom. (They suspect the victims' bodies were intact around the Titanic depth for up to three decades before the local wildlife and chemistry at the bottom consumed them. That's judging by the position of the shoes and surviving clothing that's been photographed.) The reason WHY we don't find bodies many times in military sub wrecks that are that deep is because these ships passed far below their crush depths too quickly and the internal crew compartment sections DIDN'T have time to adjust to the pressure. The abrupt change in pressure heated up the air inside those subs so quickly that it flash-fried the crew like a nuclear weapon does a person near ground zero. The crews were vaporized instantly which is why no human remains were found at the wrecks of the Thresher and Scorpion. 5 psi was normal pressurization for space vehicles (Mercury, Gemini, Apollo; Soyuz are still pressurized to 5 psi I believe; the ISS is probably 14.7 psi but don't quote me there) until the space shuttle era when they built that vehicle to 14.7psi spec. The reason why the shuttle was 14.7 psi was to make it easier for astronauts readapt to living on Earth after returning from flights up to 30 days in the Shuttle (they NEVER flew a Shuttle that long; I think the longest Shuttle flight was 18-23 days). You remove at least one factor of life on Earth that people have to readapt to after being in space for several weeks. The space suits themselves stayed at 5 psi because A) at 14.7 psi, they were inflated too much and became very stiff; it's difficult enough to do any kind of fine work with your hands in gloves without making the astronaut use more muscle again harder inflation! B) The suit has to be that much stronger to withstand tighter pressurization and people can live and work at 5 psi so long as they've had at least an hour or two to adapt to 5 psi in an airlock chamber before they spacewalk. Now, if the spacesuit failed or a hole got torn in it like 2001? Now, what would happen is the body would be alternately cooked and cooled over a wide temperature change (plus-minus 100 degrees in orbit as you go in and out of sunlight; this is after the suit's environmental system failed) if someone died during an EVA. It would be like repeatedly thawing and freezing meat. The flesh would suffer freezer burn and discoloration. It wouldn't be a pretty sight after a while. The blood WOULD boil if you didn't suffocate first. It would be a VERY painful prolonged death. That happened to a trio of Soviet cosmonauts after they suffered loss of cabin pressure in their capsule (Soyuz return module) when it was returning to Earth after the first manned space station mission. BTW, we STILL can't conduct space missions far from the Moon just because of the radiation hazards. It's far too harsh for our current technology to keep people alive that far out. They found out the local radiation at Jupiter was EXTREMELY harsh during the first space probe missions to Jupiter in the early 1970s. The radiation nearly fried the electronics of Pioneers 10 and 11 and they had to reinforce the electronics shielding for later space probes. People would die from radiation sickness OR be dying from radiation sickness/cancer/etc., etc. by the time they reached Mars. Unless someone has developed lightweight shielding and much better protection for people than we have now, a flight to Mars is NOT happening anytime soon regardless of what Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos say. If they have enough problems keeping to production schedules for Tesla's, I somehow doubt they've made the technical breakthroughs to keep people safe from radiation sickness that far out! In the words of a skeptic: "After you, gentlemen (Jeff and Elon)!" I somehow doubt either of these billionaires are going to be passengers on their ships' first manned spaceflights! Commercial payloads will hopefully get cheaper than $10,000 per pound of payload to orbit but manned spaceflight to Mars let alone Jupiter ain't happening soon. They have to make significant breakthroughs in shielding and life support than they have now. Nuclear power is the most practical propulsion method for interplanetary travel but the scares at TMI, Chernobyl, and Fukushima have stifled rocketry work on nuclear propulsion which hasn't been a high priority since the mid-1960s.

[@TheDutchGuy110]

yeah but you will be unconsciouse within seconds

[@ChadMichaelSimon]

I was born in ‘72. My stepfather was an extremely cool, laidback hippie factory worker who was enraptured by the film when it came out, and he shared his enthusiasm and reflections on it with me when I was very young and before I was able to see it. The advent of home video allowed me to finally watch it, and I was transfixed. His primers for the story and detail set me up to devour it over and over. One of my favorite details he pointed out to me was how the helmets were designed to look like insect heads when viewed from above, with the circular valves being the eyes. They always reminded me of grasshoppers, and the image further dehumanized the astronauts into being little pests that were infesting Discovery from HAL’s point of view. When Poole is in his death throes, he looks like a dying insect writhing in space until he goes still. Chilling stuff.

[@terryhickman7929]

I know I've found these videos years after they were posted, but I have to say, hearing the original "Daisy" from that early computer took my breath away. That scene of dismantling HAL's brain was fantastically emotional, and hearing that song from a real computer kind of put me back in the first time I saw 2001. Excellent video series, just superb. Thanks again!

[@markrandle9025]

22:28 Daisy

[@HorridDave]

You need to write a book on this. Hell, write as many books as you want on these topics, I'd buy 'em all!

[@CinemaTyler]

+HorridDave Hehe, thanks!

[@dangibson906]

Back in 1968, I first became aware of 2001 in a remarkable Life Magazine pictorial. I knew I absoutely HAD to see it. The film opened in (I believe) 7 cities in the south on the same night. Four of us drove to Raleigh to the Capitol Theater to see this EPIC film. I have never forgotten that night. Most notable was the final scene in the first half, when all of us watched the astronauts discussing Hal's pending disconnection. The moment we saw thru Hal's "eyes" that he was reading their lips, there was a distinct GASP in the audience. Then the screen went black, and all it said was INTERMISSION. ... absolutely unbelievable.

[@omgwtfbbqstfu]

The 4k release proves his focus on focus was well worth it.

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

Yeah, that was an absolutely incredible shot now that I think of it. Where he explodes into the airlock. When you're watching it, you're so immersed that you actually believe that these people are astronauts in space so you take this sort of realism for granted but now that you mention it, it was an astounding shot.

[@BinaryDood]

If I were asked, if we were to send one and only movie to space in order to represent mankind, then I would not be able to answer anything else other than "2001 a Space Odyssey". This movie is poetic in the sense it captures our fears and ambitions and wraps them up in a way I've yet to see another movie surpassing. This is the overall best analysis I've seen on it.

[@Miss__Understands]

I completely agree with you.

[@lucasoheyze4597]

Happy Gilmore for me.

[@RCAvhstape]

22:53 that IBM computer singing Daisy gives me chills.

[@lesleycamplin1689]

Great series of videos - 2001 is my all time favourite film! Having said that, even with Kubrick's legendary attention to detail there are a couple of technical errors, and I consider the greatest one to be that after Bowman re-enters the Discovery by blowing the door off the pod, the pod itself is still shown as being next to the Discovery - the reaction from the explosive decompression would've blasted it away from the ship. Having said that, it's still an incredible film and really doesn't look dated at all.

[@hagerty1952]

You are correct, in general. I noticed that as well. On the other hand, you can believe the pod had an automated "station keeping" mode that would keep it in place (that's how Boman could have retrieved it by remote control later and explains why there are still two pods in the bay when he takes one out to meet the monolith). Back on the original hand, you should have at least seen the pod shudder and bobble some as the air goes blasting out along with Bowman.

[@JuanMartinez-qw7px]

These videos are great!!! A few years ago, when I heard that James Cameron was just about to make a documentary about how 2001 was made, I get very excited, I thoght that all my questions were just about to be clarified, but I was very dissapointed. It turns out, these videos were exactly what I was expecting to see. Thank you very much for doing them, CinemaTyler. Just one suggestion: try not to rush too much the narration. Great work!!

[@dancaffee9654]

This whole 2001 series is incredible! Bravo!

[@scottmumford8295]

Seeing 2001 in Cinerama in 1968 during it's initial run blew my 16-year-old mind. It was almost literally a religious experience. I went on to watch it over 30 times--and always in a theater. (To this day I've never watched it on TV.) You've done a remarkable job, and give it the honor and respect it deserves. Congratulations, and thank you!

[@CinemaTyler]

Thanks! I can only imagine how great that was! I've only seen it in the theater twice, but I'm seeing it again soon!

[@zapillofilms]

Man, I don't know how to thank you for this magnificent work! These videos about 2001 are beyond words... I hope Kubrick was alive to see them. My deepest congratulations!

[@CinemaTyler]

+zapillofilms Thanks! I really appreciate it!

[@MrSontaran3]

Keir Dullea is such a fine ambassador for this now historic film. It is also, correspondingly, the film he is most associated with.

[@VadiaRotor]

amazing how much thought was put into this

[@JeffreyBurtonYT]

Tyler, this is an astounding series. It really needs to be put into a DVD and taught at film school. It might just save cinema.

[@kingv911]

I wait with baited breath for these 2001 vids from CinemaTyler. So well done.

[@CinemaTyler]

+kingv911 Thanks!

[@StreetsOfVancouverChannel]

Superb audio quality used in these videos.... BRAVO!

[@CinemaTyler]

+Streets of Vancouver It's funny you should mention that. I just bought a new microphone after I recorded the voice over for this and the new mic sounds pretty bad compared to the super cheap mic that I'm using now (an MXL990 that I got bundled with another mic for $60). I'm going to return the new mic. I think I'm starting to figure out how to master the audio finally. You can totally hear the difference between this video and my first video, which used the same mic.

[@tnavassac]

+CinemaTyler The audio is, indeed, quite good. One minor criticism I have is that you may want to watch out for some of the "saliva sloshing" sounds that come out a lot during your narration. They can be a little distracting. Helps to make sure you're drinking plenty of water during recording sessions. Again, just a minor criticism. I just found this series yesterday and am thoroughly enjoying it. Excellent work! Happy to subscribe to your channel!

[@CinemaTyler]

+tnavassac Thanks! I totally know what you mean. I always have such a tough time doing vo. I pretty much do at least three readings of every sentence. Whenever I listen to what I've recorded, it always reminds me of this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2amqZSNp5Z5itk Thanks for the advice. I'll keep it in mind going forward.

[@slorznovitch]

Fantastic documentary! I knew the film was complex, but I had no idea just how complex it was. Excellent work!!!

[@kahl777]

You have done a fantastic job making this series! By far the best fan made documentary I've ever seen! I'm a big fan of 2001 and the facts that you have in these videos are really astonishing and I can tell that you've put a great deal of an effort into research and production. You've certainly earned my sub! Keep up the great work!

[@CinemaTyler]

+kahl777 Thanks! I'm constantly amazed at how much great info is out there.

[@Nonsuchhill]

I want to thank you so much for that series on 2001. I was looking for so long to find out how it was made. Kubrick is a real genius. I just wanted to mention that at 15:12 min. There is a picture of the québécois actor Gilles Pelletier that appears when the commentary talks about Claude Rains. Thank you very very much for posting those videos.

[@jeffwads6158]

Dude, this documentary is every bit as well done as anything I have seen on TV. Excellent job.

[@eardrumbuzzer6477]

Your comments and visions are brilliant. Of course, I have all of this in print but to hear your narration, it brings this ALL to life!

[@CinemaTyler]

Thanks!

[@Bahia320]

Thanks so much for putting this together. I saw this movie during the first run as a boy at a theater called the HARWAN in MOUNT EPHRAIM, New Jersey. IT HAS ALWAYS FASCINATED ME.

[@SceneComparisons]

great video as always

[@CinemaTyler]

+Dimitri Bitu Thanks!

[@betaneptune]

12:53 - Look how the _Discovery_ is looking down at the pod, showing it being the stronger of the two. It even looks angry at the pod. Good work, Kubrick!

[@stephentillman8617]

I've never seen so much work go into a single film. It seems that you have literally peeled back the curtain that ever so discreetly concealed the sheer magnitude of 2001. What an entertaining & informing group videos these are. Thank you for this treat.

[@CinemaTyler]

+Stephen Tillman Thanks! I am constantly amazed at every little tidbit of info I find on the film.

[@Miss__Understands]

Hi Tyler, Here's what I think of your ASTOUNDING work. First of all, I've studied this film intensely since I was 14. I've certainly read every book and hopefully, magazine article; though websites are another story. It's hard to read everyone's crackpot theory, of which the schizophrenic Wheat's is the most crackpot. I wrote that devastating review of his book on Amazon. Currently, I've taken about 70 hi-rez screen shots and am making animated gifs for a future website exploring haunting, recurring patterns in the computer displays in the film, and how they influence my interpretation of it. ► Other than the novel, Agell's book, and the film itself; your incredible work is by far the most fascinating, information-dense, *useful* 2001 resource ever made in 50 years. I didn't know there WAS any new information, stills, footage, quotes by the production team, or insight to be had; but by God, you just showed me 27 solid minutes of it. I found myself taking screen shots and skipping back to watch parts of it repeatedly before continuing. I cannot imagine how you possibly collected this much new material. Are you Vivian Kubrick's husband? I saw this Part 5 first and it took nearly an hour. I will now watch the rest of your presentations. I'm sure I'll be back to watch this one again. THANK YOU, "Luxi Terna" My internet name, after the Ligeti piece.

[@CinemaTyler]

Thank you so much for the kind words! Your website sounds fascinating! My greatest resources for these videos is the website called "2001italia," which you would love as well as an out of print book titled "The Making of 2001" that was uploaded to the internet by Cinephila & Beyond. Definitely make sure to check those out!

[@lou1958]

I still have that book in paperback, although it's a little dogeared due to its age and heavy use.

[@fullcircle2340]

'ey

[@DennisMHenderson]

😬

[@ivyssauro123]

9:36 yeah! that scene is just so well made It always baffled me too, it's very impressive. Thanks for revealing to us how this was done!

[@JackTorrence237]

This Fucking kick's ass! You are a stickler for details much like myself. And is not my pal Stanley the ultimate example of this. He has joined us here at the Overlook if any of you were wondering. He and others wanted to thank you so much for creating/posting it! We don't have a lot of entertainment choice's here. Grady send's his appreciation also. Thanks again....

[@CinemaTyler]

Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!

[@TTweten77]

very excited for part 6!!! my favourite sequence of all time is "Jupiter and the Infinite" and I cant wait to see it analized subjectively and objectively in great detail

[@CinemaTyler]

Part 6 is on the way!

[@ZesPak]

I was very young when I first saw this film and I was in awe. I had no idea that the film was that old (I probably saw it in the mid '90s), and this video series has given me new perspective knowing that this film was made not only before LED or TFT were a thing, but even before man landed on the moon and the iconic Earth Rise picture were taken. Incredible. The amount of work you illustrated that went into each scene....

[@AndyJarman]

Marvellous, this will be invaluable in decades to come. So much of the technology used is obsolete, the amount of innovation used to overcome limitations is a lesson to every craftsman with complains about his tools.

[@ryanhrovat]

Thanks for making such a comprehensive video series. Your thorough use of sources and labeling those sources are a fantastic help in understanding the information. The series feels so much more significant being built by hundreds of quotes, video interviews, and behind the scenes photos, instead of just being some-guy-on-youtube's interpretation (though, I like when you lace your opinions in there too). You're making a really special thing here. Thanks.

[@CinemaTyler]

+ryanhrovat Thanks! I really appreciate it. Make sure to check out some of those sources. There is a fair amount that didn't make it in. I'm blown away by how much research 2001italia has done for his site. I'm glad and relieved that you liked my added opinions. I keep attempting to dissect this film to try and make sense of how something so legendary was made, but I keep realizing that Kubrick was just unlike any other filmmaker.

[@KidFresh71]

Your detailed analysis and breakdown of the special effect elements only makes me appreciate the magic of 2001: A Space Odyssey even more. Fantastic effort. Kubrick would be proud of your attention to detail.

[@faterock9876543]

Watched all your 2001 videos twice over. Thank you so much!

[@CinemaTyler]

+faterock9876543 Glad you liked them!

[@gdillard1]

I first saw this film in 1968, at the Uptown Theater in Washington DC. You've created the most thorough and fascinating 2001 piece I've ever seen. Thanks a billion, man.

[@smokinjim5885]

Wonderfully produced videos. I thought I knew all there was to know about 2001 but was surprised to find out there was so much more. I'm very glad I stopped to watch all the show. Thank you for making this!

[@ThomasBaxter]

This is just fantastic, the entire series. It is akin to dissecting a great poem down to its constituent images then showing how they are all interrelated.

[@CinemaTyler]

+Thomas Baxter Thank you! I really appreciate it! There is something about this film that seems almost mythological. I keep tearing it apart trying to make sense of how such a film could exist and I just keep revealing that Kubrick was just absolutely brilliant and unlike any other filmmaker.

[@Miss__Understands]

> There is something about this film that seems almost mythological. No "almost" about it; that was his explicit, stated purpose!

[@NightMedicine]

I gotta say, this series as a whole is the best piece of informative Kubrick media I have ever seen. Thank you so much for making it.

[@zcosmos9]

Good technical detail and awesome stills

[@richardp1522]

Just discovered your site so well done the level of detail is commendable. 2001 is my all time favorite film first viewed it in 1968 still nothing else (including 2010) even comes close. Watched it well beyond 100 times still as taken by it today as was that 7 year old in 68. The plot, set design, detail and musical score so appropriate nothing else would have worked as good. Thanks for producing this series I learned so much so interesting simply not you average film.

[@Rahatlakhoom]

This 6 part series is totally mind blowing. Thank you so much for putting this together. This is a revelation into Stanley's work.

[@Eamonnito]

Thank you for the documentaries. They're excellent. 2001 is my favourite film. Hoping to see a 70mm screening of it shortly. I was so disappointed when Douglas Trumbull's documentary was cancelled. Thank you for uploading yours. Much appreciated.

[@CinemaTyler]

+Eamonn Lally Glad you liked them! I finally got to see 2001 in 70mm a few months ago and it was like watching it for the first time all over again. Absolutely stunning. I was super disappointed about Trumbull's doc too-- that's actually why I made these ;)

[@Eamonnito]

Well I'm seeing it on 13th April, which just happens to be my birthday. Have it booked. It's going to be emotional. 70mm is the ONLY way to see this movie. So glad you enjoyed seeing it. As you say, like seeing it for the first time. I still have hope that Douglas will be able to make his documentary. Can you imagine what he has access to !? :-D Anyway, once again, thank you for your superb documentary. just wish other film makers could aim as high as Kubrick. but I guess there's a long way to fall.

[@TheAE35Unit]

This series you created is excellent! Thank you so much for your time creating them. I'm a big fan of 2001 and I thought I had seen everything from previous documentaries but I saw and heard many new things uncovered from your research. Kudos.

[@CinemaTyler]

Thanks! I was blown away about how much info on the production I was coming across online that I just had to make this series!

[@nathanieldrake6658]

I've always thought HAL had decided ahead of time to create a false malfunction so as to divide and destroy the crew and take over the ship. HAL predicts malfunction only after entering into a conversation with Dave in which it appears HAL is attempting to determine what Dave and by extension, Frank know about the mission. When Dave evades giving a clear answer HAL immediately detects the malfunction. This mirrors the pattern of a chess game. The opening(what had happened before and up to the malfunction) the middle (malfunction as gambit/HAL determining by the reaction of Dave and Frank --their plan to disconnect as a way they can be subsequently eliminated..and endgame (anticipating Dave's rash reaction to Frank's plight by forgetting his space helmet) which should lead to mate..but didn't because of Dave's cunning--something HAL could not anticipate. Explaining it this way then suggests the lip reading is important not just in HAL learning of Dave and Frank's intent but also giving HAL a tool in in which to kill both of them. For the story isn't just showing us as humans (and supposedly computers) as killers but also why we kill.

[@CinemaTyler]

What a great take! This has the makings of a great analysis. I definitely remember how odd it seemed for HAL to detect the fault in the AE-35 at such a perfect moment in their conversation. Knowing how meticulous Kubrick was, I doubt this was a coincidence.

[@tricky2k]

Actually, I'm here almost 3 years after Tyler made this video to say exactly that. The honest to god error theory makes little sense, and even less HAL's drastic reaction of killing everyone (or trying). Instead, that was HAL's plan all the way, or at least as they were getting close to Jupiter, since HAL knew all the details of the mission and, at the time, he (can we call it a "he"?) sees himself as a superior to the helpless humans. The first malfunction is a test to what the crew's reaction will be Also, HAL was probably aware of what was going on, what that signal was and what meeting with the monolyth will mean to himself, the next step on evolution for the humans and he'd be back to be just a tool. "Kill them all" was the only way to go. That's also the reason (imho) why HAL is the most "human" character in the movie, it's the only way to show his superiority over the real humans

[@brianaple]

Right. It was Hal's orders to lie to the crew about the real mission but also being programmed to give true and accurate information that drove him crazy. Two conflicting orders that can never be resolved. To an intelligence entirely based on logic and following programing this conflict caused his breakdown. The book and 2010 directly say this.

[@lawrencet83]

Everyone has missed one major flaw when Bowman goes to the hatch to shut down HAL. One can very clearly see that his left glove is NOT attached to his suit when he opens and goes through the hatch. You can see his bare wrist. I'm puzzled that Kubrick didn't noticed it, or if he did was it too late to re-film that piece.

[@tylisirn]

@@lawrencet83 It can easily be rationalized, since in the finished movie HAL never vented the inside of the ship. Once Dave was inside and had access to a helmet, there wouldn't be any point to it. If HAL had now tried to vent the ship, Dave would just lock the glove. Why did he have it unlocked? Perhaps he felt more dexterous with the glove unlocked.

[@edwardleclair8883]

This is phenomenal. I just finished watching the first five and was inspired to go back and watch 2001 again, keeping in mind the great info you put together. I can hardly wait for your next video.

[@CinemaTyler]

+Eddie LeClair Thanks! That makes me very happy to hear. Finding out all of this info on the production has really given me a new appreciation for the film and even more awe at its scope.

[@markhuber8105]

Stumbled across this series a few days ago. Will wait impatiently for the final episode. Great work!

[@CinemaTyler]

Thanks! Working on the final episode now!

[@sailingboriken5468]

This is one of the great dissections of a movie I have ever seen, this is a Master's thesis on this great piece of cinema. 2001 was a fantastic film, got a bit trippy at the end there. I also enjoyed 2010 a great deal and the interplay of the crew with HAL. This is a first class effort man, congrats!

[@CinemaTyler]

+Sailing Boriken Thanks! I really appreciate it!

[@XMarkxyz]

What a fantasticly accurate serie of video this is; I only want to add a thing: Kurick said multiple times that his favourite voice for HAL was that of the Italian localization which didn't sound as butler-like as the original.

[@ThinkingManNeil]

Just wanted to say I'm genuinely enjoying this series. Like you, 2001 is my favourite film, period. I'm as in awe of it today as when I first saw it on the big screen - 70mm - at the old University Theatre (now long gone) on Bloor Street West in Toronto way back in the 1970's. To me, it is one of the most engaging and poetic motion picture films ever created, giving us not only a vision of where we've come from through millions of years of evolution to where we are (capable of our own annihilation as a species) to where we could go and what might await us beyond that - the unimaginable. There are a couple of scientifically inaccurate mistakes Kubrick made in the film, but other commenters have probably raised them, and they never really take away from the grandeur and magnificence of the final piece. While I'm no film maker myself, I love learning how the film was made and finding out the techniques, methods, and tricks that went into making it. Thanks very much again...

[@MrPhotodoc]

The Polaroid camera Mr. Kubrick used for his tests appears to be a 110A or 110B. Highly prized today for their fine German optics.

[@brianarbenz7206]

CinemaTyler, you have given us a treasure trove of 2001 information, speculation and lore. Thank you. Excellent work!

[@Miss__Understands]

I'm back two years after my comment below to watch all 7 parts for the third time. Thank God you collected all this vast information in one place, or research on the film would be next-to impossible.

[@CinemaTyler]

Thanks! I'm glad you liked it!

[@nikiv116893]

THANK YOU for your hard hard work, this is a great compilation of all of the material anyone can find about the film. Your 2001 series might be the definitive collection of all the data out there about the production of the film

[@CinemaTyler]

+Vlad Nikitin Thanks for the kind words! I was really surprised at how much info is floating around online. The only source that I actually paid for was the blu-ray, which I mainly used for the commentary. Part of the reason why I made this was out of disappointment that Douglas Trumbull's doc got cancelled. The resources the acquired eventually got turned into the Taschen book, which I have yet to get. I have to offer up my sincerest thanks to 2001Italia's site and the post on Cinephilia & Beyond for all the great info and photos.

[@klipkultur2951]

That's funny, at 15:11, you're not showing us Douglas Rain but Gilles Pelletier, grand acteur québécois.

[@Jamminn555]

Absolutely love your videos!! Thank you so much for the detail and effort in explaining how the effects were done, as well as other little known facts and anecdotes about Kubrick and the filming. I watched these five how-Kubrick-made-2001 videos with some friends and we had one common suggestion for your own narration, which is excellent but we felt lost some impact in how fast it goes from sentence to sentence, and segment to segment. Brief pauses could help to make your narration a bit more natural-sounding and easier to digest.

[@CinemaTyler]

Thanks! Yeah, I've been getting that a lot. I'm working on Part 6 now and I have been making sure to space the narration out a bit more. I might try to space out the narration in the previous videos after I finish Part 6 and put them all together into one big video.

[@Nephilim667-j9d]

I just watched the whole thing... excellent videos!!!

[@grommy1234]

Very nicely done! I saw 2001 in London during its premiere run, and have been fascinated with it ever since. Your exceedingly complete and painstakingly researched work is every bit a monument that this film deserves. Thank you very much!

[@dpmcnevin]

Really great work! 2001 is one of my favorite movies as well and this series gave me so much more insight into it. Can't wait for the next part to be released!

[@CinemaTyler]

Glad you liked it! Part 6 is on the way!

[@TomTimeTraveler]

The special effects in this film are a work of genius. Special effects today are cheap and without the impact of those in 2001.

[@ludeman]

And this is why this peace of art will still hold up 100ys from now

[@Basilzaharoff1]

Blooming Marvellous

[@CinemaTyler]

+Basilzaharoff1 Thanks!

[@joseangelhernandez5274]

wow! amazing work! I didn't think I could love this movie more but u proved it to b possible, for that my good man I applaud you and your hard work, and the other people that must have helped you on this detailed analysis.

[@CinemaTyler]

+Jose Angel Hernandez Thanks! The more I research, the more my appreciation for this film grows. I really couldn't have made these if it wasn't for the amazing resources on 2001italia and Cinephilia & Beyond.

[@michiohome123]

Can't wait for part 6. Thank you so much.

[@CinemaTyler]

Thanks for watching! Part 6 is on the way!

[@sanddab]

Your level of detail in these videos is truly great, thank you!!!

[@petermarsh4578]

I absolutely adore this series! It's a fantastic tribute to such an astonishing film.

[@CinemaTyler]

+Peter Marsh (breadloaf64) Thanks! The info I come across while researching never ceases to amaze me as to the amount of thought that went into this film.

[@lloid6619]

Agreed.

[@Datadog-1]

Just astonishingly beautiful. It’s always so inspiring to see true genius.

[@Persikan9]

This is quality content! My notifications for you are up. Can't wait until the next episode!

[@CinemaTyler]

+Ad Hominem Thanks!

[@Trunkfish]

Greatest documentary I’ve ever seen…helps that this is my favorite movie. On my 3rd viewing of this documentary. Incredible

[@flamesphere3144]

I hope you know this series, as well as your videos on Blade Runner, and the What Learned From series, are endlessly watchable and rewatchable, as calm, informative and inspiring pieces of documentary. I've watched every episode at least 6 times. Love and success.

[@Shoshana-xh6hc]

Fantastic! One of my all time favourite films, when it came out I bought the sound track ( on vinyl of course) and played it endlessly to the annoyance of my parents. 😍😃💖🙏💥✨

[@jimw6659]

Amazing work. Thank you for these.

[@46raulfull]

Loving this series! I started watching because i wanted to know how they filmed the astronaut jogging while the other one was eating seated xd but i've enjoyed it a lot! Appreciate the commentary on the meaning of the angles and the camera positions.

[@TheGrandWazoo]

Excellent job on these videos, sir. Keep up the good work. Eagerly anticipating Part 6.

[@CinemaTyler]

Thanks! Part 6 is on the way!

[@dukejohndecker]

These are awesome! So amazingly informative. My one piece of feedback is that it your narration feels like all the natural pauses have been edited out, and as a listener I felt that I needed the briefest of moments to assimilate all your great information. You can really hear the difference in pacing between your voice over, and when you switch to documentary footage of other people talking.

[@CinemaTyler]

Thanks! I've been getting that a lot on this video in particular. You'll notice that the later episodes are a bit better. I'll make sure to fix the narration in this one when I finally stitch all the parts together into one big doc.

[@SpanglySundew]

I really like this series. Thanks for uploading! I also really enjoy your channel. Keep it up!!

[@CinemaTyler]

+SpanglySundew Glad you're enjoying it! Thanks for watching!

[@UnlimitedFilmMakers]

This, that you've made is a pure work of art, CinemaTyler. Congratulations and thank you. I am really enjoying a lot this series, through which I've just discovered you. I'll pay attention to your other documentaries here. As a filmmaker, years ago, I was even thinking of making some day, a fiction movie, about the Making of 2001 (*). This is the closest to that I've seen. And perhaps this work of you - among others, of course - it can bring inspiration to the feature film, that probably someone else would make if ever. (*In the style of RKOR 281)

[@sevensilverflowers]

Well done. Going to watch 2001 after I finish part 5. More insight to this fantastic film. Thank you for you making this!

[@CinemaTyler]

Thanks for watching!

[@Molnboman]

Wonderful series you have created. Thank you.

[@Someoldguycoding]

amazing and highly polished series. Very Enjoyable! I think I was eight when I saw this movie, and being a fan of lost in space and star-trek, I was a bit confused with this movie (apes, lack of dialog, what's with that black thing, 10 minutes of breathing in a space suit, etc.). A friend and I sat through it twice (with little increase in understanding for my part). It's been a movie I've rewatched and enjoyed many times since. Thanks for all the magical details of this amazing series!

[@spiritmolecules]

Awesome technical & creative analysis CinemaTyler - loved this documentary from start to finish.

[@dirtyths]

This is an amazing piece of work. The amount of research here is fantastic. Just one little thing, though, the actor shown as Douglas Rain at 15m10s is in fact french Canadian actor Gilles Pelletier.

[@CinemaTyler]

Thanks for the correction. I knew I'd mess something up. Someone mentioned that soon after I first uploaded it and I added an annotation with the correction, but I don't think it shows up on mobile.

[@dirtyths]

Ok, I see it now. Again, fantastic piece of work!

[@DonJoyce]

Fantastic job, Tyler!

[@patcunningham9222]

some of the best content I've seen. well done sir.

[@CinemaTyler]

+Pat Cunningham Thank you!

[@salomore]

Great work, man! Looking forward to your next Kubrick video.

[@CinemaTyler]

+Никон Соломатин Thanks! It might take a little while, but I'm also working on a little Kubrick series for the odds and ends that don't fit into larger videos, so stay tuned!

[@salomore]

Good luck with that, bro.

[@MrGlere]

Gorgeous work, One of the most accurate and detailed documentaries I've ever seen

[@anthonypocetti]

This is content of the highest level. Thank you!

[@orlyplate]

Just watched the movie couple of days ago for the first time, and couldn't stop thinking throughout "how the fuck was this made in 1968". Thank you so much for your hard work! Can't wait to the conclusion of this amazing series

[@CinemaTyler]

Thank you! That same thought led me to make this! Stay tuned, I'm working on Part 6 now!