How Libya was Overthrown is Worse Than You Thought

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Over a decade after the war in Libya and nation is still ruled by warlord factions unable to build state institutions or hold free elections. The vacuum of power in Libya directly led to weapons and terror funneled into the Sahel region which contributed to a string of recent military coups. The instability also caused a migrant crisis that reached all the way to Europe. The collapse of the Libyan government led to a rise in extreme groups inside Egypt that then spilled over into Israel.
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[@Taskandpurpose]

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[@scottbattaglia8595]

And the libyans were basically kidnapping and enslaving Italian fisherman.....they were not good cross sea neighbors. The U.S. also had an issue with people being kidnapped and enslaved or ransomed back.......to the halls of Montezuma to the seas of Tripoli......

[@tucoramirez9557]

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[@arknowledged5647]

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[@keimolantio]

And it played out exactly how Gaddafi described it would

[@wedgeantilles8575]

Yeah - and what a HUGE surprise this was. Not. Like in we had tons of examples in quite recent history (most of them started by the US...) where exactly the same scenario led to exactly the same results. Not sure if the US got exactly what they wanted or if they are utterly incompetent and insane.

[@franciscomap75]

Gaddafi was a dictator and a monster. Remember, he loved sharia law.

[@G_Zero127]

Gaddafi was the only one holding shit together until Obama went in to de-stabilize the region to create an Islamic state.

[@Christian-lh7ux]

I often ask myself, beside all the pain and sorrow dictators like Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein brought over their country and the world, would there be overall less suffering with them instead of without them? It seems to me that unfortunately some cultures need a heavy hand to maintain civilization.

[@AhmadM25]

@@Christian-lh7uxgaddaffi was an evil dictator, saddam wasnt

[@diggernick901]

Enforcing a no-fly zone is a great euphemism for providing aerial support to one of the sides by doing pinpoint airstrikes on the other's strategic objects. It used to be called "joining the war" before the newspeak.

[@neongenesis8499]

They even admitted supporting a specific side afterwards. United States keeps thinking that the whole world is like South Amrica, that if they get or rid of the ruling leader they can put their own dictator puppet in place. As bad as the previous one but atleast (for now) alligned with the US. And every time again they find out they lack context and fail to notice they are not the only player in countries outside of the American continents.

[@alexanderd6793]

Um, a no-fly zone is just that, nothing flies in it. It's doesn't allow the nations enforcing it to bomb shot lmao

[@jojothepolyglot1866]

Like the way Israel did in Syria when the Syrian government was bombing ISIS rebels in Southern Syria. You cannot make this things up! How that will come to bite Israel is everyone's guess

[@ColoradoStreaming]

"No-fly-zone" = Air superiority.

[@longiusaescius2537]

Yup

[@misteroughtright5557]

Ultimately, Gaddafi’s downfall came when he stated that his oil would be tied to the gold dinar instead of the petrodollar

[@marvinfok65]

It doesn't matter now, Petrodollar is now history. Gaddafi should have waited out till now for this to happen.

[@highdefinitionstanleytm9614]

​​​@@marvinfok65will never happen in the near future as the $$$$ holds all the cards and is stable and held in trillions by china, Japan etc so why would the most powerful country's cut of there nose to spite there face.

[@RandyMarshSP]

I actually had a long conversation with a libyan in spain in 2018, he said that propaganda was all over the universities but no one he knew had stood against gaddafi they were all foreign actors involved in all the protests, he spoke about how libyans had it better than even Spain, and that any sort of resentment held by libyans was based around not having kfc, nightclubs or mcdonalds but they stood by gaddaffi and many of his friends fought for him when this was going on.

[@andycai1986]

One of the race/faction supported Gaddafi, others are against. So they can only describe what they feel while others rebelled

[@Noqtis]

@@andycai1986 Not really. most people in libya were on the side of gaddafi. the ones against him where mostly us propagandists. libya wasn't nearly as fucked up before the war as us propaganda told you. and the current state of the country is the fault of the west, mainly the usa.

[@andycai1986]

@@Noqtis if a nation is united, and everyone is focus on one unity, no other countries can make it become warzone and multiple factions. US Europe is one factor, while the Russian Iran another factor, basically Libya becomes proxy war nations, even now there's two states in Libya. Under Gaddafi of course it's better, without anyone to oppose him, under peace, at least growth can be there even if it's slow and hard under dictatorship.

[@guestofearth]

@@andycai1986 Except it wasn't slow or hard under Gaddafi. They had oil wealth, and Gaddafi was competent enough an administrator to see that at least some of that wealth went to providing a decent baseline of infrastructure and benefits to the nation's inhabitants.

[@higherresolution4490]

Thank you for the insightful comment. At a popular French bakery in Newport beach, Ca, the flow of employees are mostly North African and French with relatives in North Africa. They say exactly the same thing. Gaddafi was the president of the African Union, and was right on the threshold to having a united front of oil payments in the gold dinar. It doesn't take too much to figure out what really was going on when one follows the money trail, particularly all those emanating from United states, France and Great Britain.

[@frankbieser]

You mentioned the large amount of gold and silver Gaddafi amassed. As I understand it, that was to create a gold backed Dinar currency, as part of his greater Africa plan. Interestingly, it was about the time Gaddafi told oil buyers that he was willing to sell oil for gold, rather than USD (aka the petro-dollar), that the US suddenly became willing to "back" the rebellion with military force.

[@donohirst]

I'd heard it was him wanting an African "euro", he certainly wasn't persona non Grata when we took him down. Blair had been running around as Bush' poodle sucking up to him years before. Certainly was weird timing how the free world turned on a dime and got him out, caused us no end of grief doing it, in the UK we have Brexit and whining old people complaining about brown people near continuously because of the old slave routes being used as illegal immigration routes...

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

now we know why.

[@bluemarlin8138]

Tinfoil hat a bit tight?

[@holden5478]

I think the fumes from your MyPillow might be getting to you.

[@feekalphabeet9217]

Correct

[@adamkg3215]

Small correction: the USS Enterprise (CVN-65) was not a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier. It was a unique class of its own that preceded the Nimitz-class.

[@Taskandpurpose]

great catch!

[@V.B.Squire]

​@@Taskandpurposeone thing about the postwar decolonisation period is Russian involvement gets overlooked and left out of the equation. It was official foreign policy to cause chaos to weaken and tie down western powers, they were not helping to liberate the people and that's according to their own documents and interviews of ex KGB after 1990. Soviet money weapons and propaganda should not be left out of the equation of local political resentment and the ability to act on it

[@JKS_Crafting]

@@lukevaxhacker7762 silly goose, its a star faring ship?

[@MauricioGarcia-yv2in]

He doesn't have a clue WTF he's talking about anyway.

[@ripvanwando]

Another small correction, R2P was the UN world summit, not the Nato world summit. "The Responsibility to Protect populations from genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity and ethnic cleansing has emerged as an important global principle since the adoption of the UN World Summit Outcome Document in 2005".

[@33stryker]

"We came, we saw, he died." US (and EU by extension) foreign policy can be inconsistent at best and hypocritical at worst when it comes to dealing with authoritarian regimes. Iraq and Libya must go while Saudi Arabia and Egypt are "friends." IIRC Gaddafi was delisted as a state-sponsor of terrorism but that didn't help his prospects of survival.

[@charlesscott4722]

Yes, it's also interesting that majority of the terrorists behind 9/11 were Saudis, yet Saudis faced no punishment while countries, that had nothing to do with it, were bombed

[@higherresolution4490]

Excellent comment. I hope many people read it. There's so much more to the story, including the fact that North Africans and the French called this war, "Sarkozy's war". The former French president was the galvanizing force for this war because he owed billions of dollars to Gaddafi. Britain was the other Force involved, both of them collectively convincing the Clinton State Department to pay them back for reluctantly getting involved in Iraq. Don't forget that ISIS and Al Nusra were both fighting side-by-side with NATO troops. In the first two weeks of the war, a reported 40,000 civilians were killed. If you pull up photographs of Tripoli before and after the war, the jewel of North Africa, you will see that this was radical punishment of the country, and not simply taking out a dictator.

[@adamm1151]

Barry and Killary doing what they do best.. destabilizing the world.

[@tsubadaikhan6332]

I'm a bit late here, but I think @highres is right here. This was more French Foreign Policy than US. Gaddafi was also paying off debts to France from former French colonial rule, and encouraging an African Union that traded in Gold, rather than US Dollars or the Euro. Looking at the Countries in the Sahel region of Africa that are currently having coups, and throwing the French out, this theory does make a lot of sense.

[@_Wai_Wai_]

The toppling of Gaddafi, by the CIA, has caused as much harm and misery as American invasion of Iraq. And it was done, for similar reason. GW Bush invaded Iraq when Saddam Hussein tried to sell Iraqi oil for Euros instead of for the Petrodollar. Similarly, Gaddafi wanted to created a Pan African Economic Bloc, using the Libyan dinar as a currency for international trade. American intervention is more about the preservation of the Petrodollar reserve currency status than anything else.

[@WQuantrill]

Gaddafi’s Libya is a classic case of not knowing what you have until it’s gone. He has a complicated legacy, but I think he was a net positive

[@andrewgates8158]

Lol. Lockerby

[@WQuantrill]

@@andrewgates8158 Yeah but I mean you could find something fucked up that every world leader has done. I meant overall, for the people of Libya.

[@Lardum]

Hahahaha positive? Fuck no. Was he better then the power vacuum? Sure! Doesn't mean his rule was "positive"

[@WQuantrill]

@@Lardum Yeah it does, his rule was better than the alternative (a power vacuum) which makes him positive in the context of that country

[@GuyWithBeardButNoMoustache]

@@Lardum not really, even we on Tunisia were supportive of the libyans and Gaddafi, you don't know how it was under him besides the selective narrative you've been fed, I've been to Libya under his rule and everyone from rural areas to the main cities loved the guy, but no matter how much the CIA spreads seeds of a cout in countless countries, y'all are still following like sheep, the CIA ousted many very good elected and non elected leaders by using so many strategies, from Iran president, to the hundreds if not thousands of attempts in south amarica alone!!! the US ousted a government, killed millions just to secure banana exporting rights, for damn bananas they brought misery and terror upon a whole nation, you'd think they wouldn't do more for OIL!!????

[@leeboy26]

One simply does not invade a place called Chad and expect victory.

[@NewsThatMatterUsa]

Is your name Chad ? Have you been invaded? 😂 sorry wake n bake n I swear that sounded funnier before it was written out in words .

[@fredm.2699]

Things Chad wins in: wars, women, STDs and death

[@salj.5459]

The country itself kinda of looks like Gigachad

[@MLHMODZ]

@@NewsThatMatterUsaput the joint down

[@tayzonday]

A lot of scholarship also attributes the Arab Spring to the rise of mobile Internet devices and social media. Totalitarianism that worked in the 1980s could not control information in a cell phone ecosystem.

[@PotatoBearRawr]

Good point. It is interesting that there was this few years of seemingly unregulated social media and mobile internet in dictatorships, before they realised how to shut it down, control it, and finally use it to their advantage (surveillance and social control).

[@alexkatc59]

Blah-blah-blah-blah, "Arabian spring" strangely has only taken part in USA opponent's countries. For example, UAE and SA have no such things. Strangely. And yes, they kill him intentionaly. I remember: "We came, we saw, he died.'"

[@bigglock5478]

I see you everywhere. We must have similar interests

[@fidel-3470]

In addition, American-backed social media that may (or may not) have had a significant amount of sentiment analysis manipulation by the CIA. For example, in Egypt videos showing police brutality were (allegedly) amplified in people's facebook feeds, while opinions trying to cool the situation were suppressed/given less visibility through AI.

[@adamdodda3751]

CHOCOLATE RAIIIIIN

[@hukague6264]

USA: We need to free Libyans. Gaddafi: You just want my oil. North Koreans: USA, why not free us. USA: You don't have oil.

[@youngnick1800]

Facts

[@youngnick1800]

And North Korea got nukes nato not fucking with that this why they scared of Russia

[@evenbet9603]

​@@youngnick1800facts hurt. No one cares about feelings.

[@wrestlinganime4life288]

More like they got nukes

[@patriotenfield3276]

@@wrestlinganime4life288 10 Nuke tipped ICBMs vs 1000 nuke Tipped ICBMs + Anti Missile Defense is not a competition. Reason is North Korea has China and now Russia openly backing them .

[@TheGrenadier97]

I'd rather have Gaddafi instead.

[@DarkRei7]

A small clarification: common reaction to Saddam's execution on a religious holiday (Eid Al-Idha) made him a martyr in the eyes of most Sunni muslims and further made the US like butchers because of the timing of his execution. His prior crimes were slowly forgotten over time, though Shia muslims and Kurds still do not see him in a favourable light (understandably). The Arab Spring started because of Ben Ali's actions (rigging elections, turning the country into a racket for his family to run, cracking down on protests and opposition, a fermenting economic crisis, rising unemployment... ) and the first seeds of it were planted in 2008 which later exploded in December 2010 until his ousting on January 14th 2011, following a street vendor burning himself in protest, not because of a sentiment birthed by Saddam's death.

[@tomriley5790]

The US was not involved at all in the exectution of Saddam, it was scrupulously left to the Iraqis. (Had the US beein involved the hanging would not have been as botched). Sunni Muslims would have made whatever they wanted to out of him anyway, but it was muslims that he tortured and abused for most of his life. The overthrow of Saddam showed that the old dictators who had held power for so long in the middle east could be toppled and whilst it wasn't the immediate cause it did give inspiration to those who wished to do similar things.

[@DarkRei7]

@@tomriley5790 I was talking about public perception among Sunni Muslims. Nowadays Saddam is viewed as "the last leader in the Arab world" by many.

[@asscheeks3212]

Funny that Suddam is a staunch Anti Communist since the Kurds are pro Communist

[@Beyonder1987]

@@tomriley5790without US capture and sending him to Shias he wouldn’t have died the way he did. US did this knowing this would happen. It was trying to please shias which was a big mistake, another the US kept making. The shias went to Iran and Sunnis supported militants.

[@jamesogden7756]

So, a fight between Irish brothers is a good analogy? Don't get involved? Sounds about right.

[@DrDemented9885]

The CIA spring you should call it. Wasn’t nothing about that organic.

[@TD1237]

100% the truth. And yet some people fell for the US propganda. It's unfortunate how these things always play out.

[@marcello1821]

Only the real ones know

[@breckenridgelong7692]

It's become obvious that Twitter and other social media sites are basically an arm of the CIA. Gaddafi was opposed to the petrodollar and refused to allow federal reserve banks and the IMF into his country. For that he was overthrown. It's not a conspiracy theory the CIA has admitted to doing similar things in the past.

[@LucaZ283]

This channel has grown so much over the last few years, well done Cappy!

[@ranjaxwolf9725]

I lived and studied in Tripoli for 1.5 years before having to evacuate in Feb2011. One or 2 minor mistakes pointed out by other commenters but overall fantastic analysis, thank you.

[@trumanhw]

...if you believe & repeat our media's lies as if you're a paid Smith Mundt act recipient: While pretty good 'til @13:00, he then claimed the Arab Spring was GRASSROOTS. When it was planned by the DIA, CIA & State Dept who then helped orchestrated it. @15:00 _"a no fly zone to STOP Libya's aerial bombardment."_ Is that why we have carriers near Israel? (granted, I support what Israel's doing, it's just no diff.) Also, what was NATO's need to destroy WATER INFRASTRUCTURE that Gaddafi created..?? Then, here's the quote in that AUMF document: _"The main objective of the responsibility to protect is to prevent genocide, war crimes, serious and persistent violations of human rights, providing greater attention from the international community on preventing violations of human rights."_ Which must be why we saw the US use diplomatic pressure and then a similar AUMF to intercede in stopping Ukrainians shelling + BOMBING their own civilian population for the past ~9.5y..? We helped Syria, too, right..? The civilian population of Syria..? Oh wait, we freaking armed ISIS via the CIA and Al Qaeda via the DIA who then began fighting each other!?? As if either were the "moderate rebels" in order to overthrow the Syrian gov. Surely Syria blew up an airliner and failed to buy its' citizens HOUSES too, right? Surely Syria must be guilty of some heinous crimes.... no??

[@cyberft]

What were your thoughts of that society?

[@YourSocialistAutomaton]

​@@cyberftmuch better than it is now for sure

[@cyberft]

@@YourSocialistAutomaton whenever I speak with Africans who have been there they act like the streets were paved with gold.

[@YourSocialistAutomaton]

@@cyberft it felt ljke it

[@oliverborromeo8460]

I'm glad you're doing more historical current events content. Just a small correction. The toppling of Saddam was not likely the inspiration for the Arab Spring. The first spark and proximate inspiration so to speak came from the self-immolation of a street vendor in Tunisia that got them to oust their dictator and it rapidly spread from there because of social media.

[@Cba409]

Obama said it was because some cartoons the muslims didnt like.

[@tomriley5790]

I disagree - the toppling of Saddam showed that the "forever dictators" could be toppled, it wasn't the immediate cause but it did give inspiration to the idea which was then sparked by the events you describe.

[@golDroger88]

That's a fairy tale.

[@bzipoli]

​@@tomriley5790fact is we'll never know tbh what started bc there were so many reasons at the time

[@arthas640]

@@tomriley5790 You're ignoring the "whys" of the Arab Spring. There were multiple causes but a major one was the fact that most of those dictatorships were various forms of Arab Socialist but did almost nothing to actually help the people. They wasted a ton of the oil revenue on pointless wars, military spending, and on corruption. They were _barely_ maintaining control of their countries and there was instability and increasing resentment/resistance before the Iraq War. Saddam even dealt with a coup attempt in 96 and there were numerous attacks and assassination attempts through the 90s and Saddam maintained a handful of body doubles to thwart attempts on his life, not to mention the fact he had a series of wars with the Kurdish population. The whole reason those dictators needed large militaries were due to all the instability in their countries that had existed and was largely due to colonialism, shitty borders, and ethnic/religious tensions. That's all without even getting into things like the increasing religious fanaticism/fundamentalism across the Muslim World or the cold war between Iran and Saudi Arabia and their funding of various radical groups that started waaay before 2003.

[@AshavanRatu]

Rest in peace and eternal Jannah brother, Thank you for supporting our own struggle for freedom, Love from Ireland 🇮🇪

[@CalicoJoeJoe]

LOL

[@higherresolution4490]

@@CalicoJoeJoe Lybia Omar Legend? Interesting comment.

[@Lardum]

Lol Lmao Kek The IRA of the Troubles wasn't fighting for Ireland's independence dude. Whether you like it or not NIR wants to be British. Should it have been given to Ireland back when the rest got its independence? Absolutely, but it's too late now

[@AshavanRatu]

@@Lardum let's see in the next referendum so buddy, we WILL be re united in my lifetime, we are rapidly outbreeding ye my friend, do your research mate, scales already tipped in our favour TIOCFAIDH AR LÁ!!!

[@Doomer_Optimist]

​@@Lardum why was reunification acceptable immediately following Irish independence but not now? If anything the appetite for unification is greater in the North now than it was after the Anglo-Irish war.

[@onnmusicofficial8211]

You didn't mention the fact Gaddafi was going to change Africa to a single currency.

[@Hunterylx]

All africa with in into a single currency? That will take dacades to happen

[@RedXlV]

No he wasn't. That was just one of Gaddafi's megalomaniacal fantasies. None of the other nations of Africa had any interest whatsoever in Gaddafi's "single currency".

[@ianbeddowes5362]

@@Hunterylx It worried the French and it was Sarkozy that were concerned and pushed the destruction of Libya.

[@user-ck3xc3ev8b]

Thanks

[@wyatttyson7737]

I remember reading about the Libyan Civil War back in 2011. It was right when I had just started to pay attention to politics, and I remember it being a surprisingly big deal here in the US. If I remember correctly, then President Obama had to either ask for a declaration of war or cease US involvement after 90 days, and when that 90 days was up he basically said “too bad, not gonna change anything” and continued to order strikes without a declaration of war.

[@ShredCo]

Zionists killed Gaddafi because he was mulling introducing the gold-backed African Dinar and he was telling the world about Israel being responsible for the 9/11 attacks. He was also killed, like Saddam, because he could have posed a future threat to Israel.

[@mrvwbug4423]

A war declaration isn't needed, congress merely needs to pass an "Authorization for use of military force" aka a AUMF. The US has not fought a formally declared war since Korea.

[@jamesscott2894]

@@mrvwbug4423 Since WW2 actually. Which fun fact, wasn't the Dec 8th Declaration of War against Japan after the previous days attacks, no against Germany or Italy later that month (Dec 11th), but June 5th, 1942 Declarations of War were made by the US against Axis members Bulgaria, Hungary, and Romania. That was the last time the US formally declared War.

[@AfricanLionBat]

Did you not watch the video like at all, you know the whole part about the UN resolution and NATO having an agreement to protect civilians? Seriously.

[@wreckincrew2714]

Yes you are basically correct! Obama for his entire Presidency went far beyond his Constitutional Authority and Legalities, consistently. "Change" was never going to be for the betterment of America and We the People and we are seeing that play out in front of Our eyes now more than ever. He used to be the worst most damaging President We ever had until Biden somehow topped him in less than 2 years.

[@asimdeyaf]

That Bedouin saying at 10:10 describes the current conflict in Libya pretty well. “I and my brother are against my cousin, I and my cousin are against the stranger.”

[@arthas640]

Sums up many post colonial states pretty well. Many groups united against the colonial government and often against the post-colonial government but then went at each others throats. There were even weird situations where communist and capitalist or monarchist groups united for a time.

[@DamirMaatar]

You gotta mention the agreement between the Transitional National Council and France that said that France's companies could have 30% of Libya's reserves if France conducted strikes on Gaddafi's positions.

[@clickytheblicky9895]

Loved this! Please more videos like this. Love to see you and the channel evolve

[@leashsb]

Great episode ! I appreciate your insight and curiosity in geopolitics. Your work to understand and explain without agenda is refreshing.

[@Non-ya-business]

I have to be honest Mr. Purpose, You guys have really started generating some great content. I love it.

[@MrNajibrazak]

if not the best military analysis channel anywhere on any platform. i like the fact that all that he reported is verifiable but no one would talk about in detail.

[@mm-gu9of]

This man's mamma named him Task Purpose??!? 😂😅

[@LaplacianDalembertian]

Exatly what Russians and Chinese said to Obama "you don't know what you are doing", he and Bush neocons caused entire region to fall into turnmoil and now ruled by radicals. Qaddafi was not radical.

[@Dude-yo5ec]

I like your videos, very informative, very close to correct events, and unbiased. It’s hard to find content like this.

[@VoidSurfer9]

Gaddafi gave a speech where he accused Israel of playing a part in JFK's assassination. He wasn't scared of the jackals

[@DominicNweze]

That's part of why they didn't help him when he sent an envoy to Israel telling them ot use their diplomatic relationship with US to make NATO stop the bombing on Libya. ISRAEL quickly said NO.

[@whyAzami]

Conspiracy

[@alonzojones6995]

​@@whyAzaminot a conspiracy you dolt

[@reece42069]

I mean he wasn’t scared of much because he was a delusional tyrannical dictator who believed he was untouchable (he was not 😆)

[@VoidSurfer9]

@@reece42069 the laughter emoji as a response has become a mark of respect to me. Anyone who laughs/scoffs at something without refuting it factually is making their own reward

[@Sinvx]

Ghaddafi predicted this back in 2009, and even told Assad, after me is you.

[@JJDelft]

Wow, he predicted that people would not appreciate repression? Shit, he the new Jesus

[@tetraxis3011]

He predicted the collapse and civil wars. @@JJDelft

[@JJDelft]

@@tetraxis3011 Of course you do if you're in his position lol, what are you gonna say? "If I get removed, everything will be better than it currently is!"

[@earlthepearl4161]

​@@JJDelft When Gaddafi reached the power in September 1969 Libya used to be occupied by five melitry bases. Two American in the western part of the country and two British in the eastern side the fifth was French in the south. Libyan oil used to be run by British and American companies. Libyan banks used to be owned by foreign banks. Over 100 thousands of Italians used to own and run Libyan economies in agriculture and Libyans used to work for them as slaves. The illiteracy rate was over 90% among Libyan population. According to the UN reports in 1967 Libya was threatened by genocide. Libyan did not have any schools and hospitals. They also used to live in tents or tin houses. As soon as Gaddafi took over the equation changed. He closed all the military bases and nationalised the oil and banks sectors. He also kicked out all the Italians and authrised Libyans who used to work for them to own and run their businesses. Gaddafi brought Egyptian companies to build house school and hospitals for all Libyan in all over the country. He made Education is free and compulsory for all Libyans which made the illetracy changed from highest in the region to the lowest in the Arab world just in ten years of his governing. He also started the begist agricultural project by planting over 40 million trees in all over the country as well as the biggest water project in the world which is known as the Hand Made River. Polically Libya used to be devised into three regions before Gaddafi as soon as Gaddafi took over he united the nation in one state. Under Gaddafi revolution Libyans used to have things that Europeans and Americans do not have such as Free education and healthcare from the gradel to the grave . Libyans also have tax free system. The government provides free house with free electricity and gas for all Libyans. Those who have limited income they recieved support from the oil reserves every month or on annual bases. You should enjoy such repression in our freedom loving " democracy "? Are you really that ignorant?

[@patriotenfield3276]

@@JJDelft CAN'T MOSSAD THE ASSAD.

[@randomdude8877]

The mediterranean Sea is just such a history hot spot, it's amazing. Literally thousands of years of written history to be found around that area.

[@pjdepaolisii]

The Sahara desert was not a desert millions of years ago, or even 10K years ago. The lack of economic development in Africa has more to do with the lack of navigable rivers than anything else, as described by Thomas Sowell.

[@GODHATESADOPTION]

Worlds greatest economist

[@Parabellumjohn215]

Always great videos, thank you!

[@eschdaddy]

Congrats for taking on this extremely difficult topic. Your videos are maturing beautifully.

[@jimatkins2980]

Glad to see you making more content Chris. This job fits you. I enjoy your content. keep on keeping it real.

[@Taskandpurpose]

I'll keep doing it for a bit more

[@jimatkins2980]

I like seeing something you can learn from. All these other fake ass people don't have the knowledge to put together good content. I hope you do it for awhile!

[@1982rrose]

​@@Taskandpurposea couple more weeks would be good. The world will be fine after that.😂

[@boomer7851]

Pls let the 'bit' part be sarcasm please@@Taskandpurpose

[@bowencreer3922]

@@Taskandpurposea lot more!

[@leoshell9399]

Great video, with ton of facts, really appreciate it. On the personal note, we need to keep out of all these conflicts as much as possible, to prevent horrible unintended consequences.

[@bargainbintactician]

Easily my most watched channel on KZbin my man! Always intrigued by your insights and I love the way you put together your content. 10/10

[@Tlailax]

You're a great content creator and communicator - thank you for your service (to the online community)

[@Mustacheman17]

another great video. the quality lately has been amazing. much more informational than anything you’ll find on mainstream news.

[@Tsukonin]

Most Libyans aren't Bedouins (arab nomads), they are either sedentary arabized Berbers, Arab-Berber mixes (like Gaddafi, whose paternal line is Berber) who adopted arab or bedouin customs or just plain Berbers. Bedouins (and arabs) are also more geographically restricted to the eastern parts of Libya (Cyrenaica) and are the result of more recent migrations (last few centuries) from Egypt, Sudan and Arabia.

[@paulfairchild8942]

Very informative content as always

[@gwgrote5]

I'm new to your channel. You're a natural at this......and I appreciate what you are teaching or reminding us of what is going on in history.

[@themodernancient6073]

I watched this video earlier today as I was boarding my flight and I just have to come back to it to leave a comment. This was a well done video Chris! Incredibly informative, very educational, and currently relevant. Well done on choosing this content but moreover, very well done on doing your homework. Good presentation. Your content has been on a steady incline, and though more serious now, it's significantly better as it progresses. Thank you for all your hard work and diligence.

[@Nutinwrkz]

I did not expect this level of honesty. This builds credibility.

[@georgearias4606]

Love this channel. Keep it up brother!

[@Hdudjfjdiduegsgxbxjcifirhwbagd]

Your geopolitical videos are your best work. Keep em coming

[@Joseph-dj9pi]

Great videos always!

[@lacygorman9154]

This was an excellent vid. Thanks.

[@frankedwards3860]

Interesting and informative, thank you

[@thefivewoundsofchrist]

Great job, thank you for tying things together so well.

[@Traumawarrior77]

Well done Cappy. There is a much bigger story and picture that needs to be looked at to really make educated positions of why we are, where we are today in the world. It’s all very complex, And It’s all connected. Thanks for helping people understand these situations better.

[@heinzerbrew]

Sounds like you understood it all. Can you tell me why the civil war was worse than we thought?

[@Tehui1974]

I found that video to be informative and well organised, my bro.

[@nickandersonco]

I really appreciate your nuance when reporting on these difficult subjects.

[@Barnie-pi7mk]

As jfk famously said “those who look to the past and the present are certain to miss the future”

[@billguernsey6419]

From someone who had so much to hide I can see why he’d say that.

[@thetruthispotenza3602]

Love your content brother. Keeping us updated and educated. Much love

[@Taskandpurpose]

thanks for watching really appreciate the support good sir . right back at ya

[@thetruthispotenza3602]

@@Taskandpurpose thank you. And I know you do. That's why you're the man!

[@patricklloyd1797]

​@Taskandpurpose one thing this video could have delved into more was the actual reasons why conflict continued in Libya, and the foreign influence that made it happen. The proto-proxy conflict between Turkey & Qatar's Muslim brotherhood ideals vs. the KSA & UAE dominated faction which played out in many other countries, notably Syria, was one of the single biggest contributors to continued conflict from 2013-present. With the sides, and other outside powers like France & Russia, establishing relations with the factions they wanted to dominate Libyan politics, a political solution became less and less likely as the violence escalated. This era of Libya, while a result of the internationally recognized 2011 intervention, should be separated from the direct causes of the intervention as it is the result of very different political factionalism & also had some incredibly interesting dynamics to it. There's not many conflicts worldwide in the past decade where a NATO country (France) & Russian special forces have fought on the same side, but in Libya that was the case. Overall a good assessment of the history leading to 2011, and of the intervention itself, but to just skip from 2011 to present without touching on the massive foreign involvement throughout that period ignores a lot of the reasons on why Libya is in the state it is today.

[@tw8464]

Excellent run down on this. Keep up the good work

[@jGoodmantv]

Totally ignores the move towards African banking system and the U.K.’s insistence he was overthrown.

[@lordMartiya]

Something to keep in mind is that Libya didn't really exist before the Italians invaded. There were three provinces of the Ottomam Empire inhabited by various tribes that mostly ruled themselves and paid some tribute to the Sultan, then Italy arrived, gave everything the name the ancient Romans used for the coastal regions, and forced everyone together, and after the war the winners kept them all in the same arbitrary country. Just like in Somalia, right down to the Italians showing up (but not the name, Rome never arrived there).

[@mrvwbug4423]

That is literally how the entire borders of the middle east and Africa were established. The modern borders of the ME and North Africa were arbitrarily dictated by european countries after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, so they basically were "how does europe want to divy up their new colonies" Sub-saharan African borders are based around the borders of the european colonies in Africa. During the Ottoman era they largely left existing tribal/feudal borders alone as long as the local Emir or Sultan pledged loyalty and paid tribute to the Empire, and those that refused were simply crushed and placed directly under Ottoman control.

[@lordMartiya]

@@mrvwbug4423 I know. But somehow the video missed this about Libya. And being Italian, and having read about how Italy was on track to establish the same kind of control over the three provinces in 1914 only to throw everything away because of a single embezzler, I decided to point it out.

[@anthonybullard4441]

Yeah, arbitrary ahistorical borders created by former colonial powers fuel a LOT of the discord we see in the world today.

[@big_bird8597]

bruh what? libya existed lmaoooo theres always been people there, the drawing of borders in africa and asia was not a good thing is a cause for the many issues these places suffer today the drawing up of borders of the likes of the italians germans brits dutch french so on

[@lordMartiya]

@@big_bird8597 The physical place existed, sure... But it certainly wasn't called Libya. And a country is more than a piece of land.

[@SlinkyTWF]

Great to watch you evolve into a wiser man as you and your team try to process complicated and often nuanced events into a digestible and reasonably accurate format for people who didn't take degrees in history and political science. Keep up the good work!

[@heinzerbrew]

Any idea why the civil is worse than we thought? I made it all the way to the end and I don't get it.

[@Ocker3]

Excellent work!

[@jamesfarrell8339]

Fascinating video Great job

[@AdvantureZach]

Really loving your geopolitical analysis videos. Very well done, and fascinating.

[@bearmerica6668]

It took about a year before I knew they got rid of Gadaffi because I was busy getting my masters. I was shocked because he was turning around. These strong men are ruthless but the middle east will be worse without them. Taking out Iraq, you get crazy Iran.

[@johnyewtube2286]

Maybe Hilary had it done to improve her chances in the election.

[@robgrey6183]

Best to stay out of these s***holes. Do business where you can, but let them sort themselves out.

[@angrydoggy9170]

@@robgrey6183 The issue with that is that lots of these countries become a hotbed for terrorism.

[@randomhuman5525]

Oil oil oil.

[@cptant7610]

Libya was worse with him. His rule is what caused the Libyan civil war.

[@iykenikoro6607]

This was great reporting

[@Dgenz24]

Top 3 favorite channels. Great work

[@ssnydess6787]

Chris, I love your analysis. I am curious why you left out a huge issue about the F-111 strike against Gaddafi; How it came about and what the fallout afterward.

[@thenaiam]

Thank you for continuing to take on difficult and challenging subjects, Chris. I greatly respect the amazing work you do. Keep it up!

[@hagestad]

Its actually pretty simple. gaddafi was killed by French special forces and all main stream media told us it was some opposing factions or rebels.

[@badmonkey2222]

​@@hagestadnobody cares who whacked him as long as he was gone is all that matters the same with Saddam and it's two worthless sadistic sons.

[@dmsasso]

Thank you. Very informative and even handed.

[@mojewjewjew4420]

I love the comment section, it points out facts cappy missed accidentally or intentionally, points out new info and his mistakes.

[@RyanTheEatingwarrior]

Fun fact: The Obama Administration’s actions in Libya led to the largest open air slave market that’s still active to this day in 2023. Freedom!🎉

[@Kunfucious577]

But they don’t care about that kind of slavery.

[@effu9375]

💯💯💯💯🧂🧂🧂

[@pickerooni6247]

I’m sure that’s a unique consequence of American intervention and not a product of instability

[@PostingCringeOnMain]

@@pickerooni6247it’s a consequence of a nation unique in its inability to take responsibility for its actions abroad

[@pickerooni6247]

@@PostingCringeOnMain You say while being among the vast majority of people in said nation who acknowledge its involvements, even going as far as to say that the United States caused slavery in the middle east when the United States has only existed for 200 so years and slavery has existed for all of human history 😐

[@ricardoospina5970]

I had a friend that was a veteran of the War between Libya and Chad, he was part of the French Foreign legion, the stories he told were horrifying. Having to kill hundreds or thousands of child soldiers and having to bury they in mass graves with bulldozers, it really messed him up.

[@darthmaul8912]

Sorry, but your friend seems to messed up long before that happend. Otherwise he would have considered to leave the battlefield instead of doing such horrible things. I mean good for him that his conscience got involved at some point but a little late.

[@Cyberpunker1088]

@@darthmaul8912 High horse.

[@robertduluth8994]

@@Cyberpunker1088to not kill children? Really? I guess if it’s at a public school then it’s normal in your culture

[@SusCalvin]

France shows up on the continent more than people think. There is/was a string of french clients who could count on french security assistance.

[@Kannot2023]

​@@darthmaul8912maybe ghadaffy should not used children. French did a good thing to protect Chad and then overturn him.

[@rumchjoe]

Interesting but avoided France and Italy issues. I'd like to hear more about the Gas Deal Khadafy made with Italy and France's disagreement with Italy over Libya issues. Libya is still a mess 10 years later.

[@dulankak]

Great content, your reporting is well balanced and unbiased.overrall great work chris

[@terbospeed]

Nobody: CIA:

[@grenmoyo3968]

@7:00 little correction. The biggest reason geographic determinism fell out of favor is because it only looked at one aspect of a state to see how it would and has worked out. There were too many exceptions to the rule, nations in the past in europe with the same climate and resources being worse off than their next door neighbors ect.

[@arthas640]

It's still fairly common, but the issue is viewing it as a sole determinator in geopolitics. "Why Nations Fail" by Daron Acemoglu and James A. Robinson and "Prisoners of Geography" by Tim Marshall are both good books on the topic. But like you said there are tons of exceptions to the rule, some countries contract "Dutch Disease" due to discovering valuable resources while others dont like various petro states compared to Norway, some countries like Russia and Saudi Arabia become extremely militant and aggressive due to a lack of geographic defenses leaving them vulnerable while others like Botswana dont.

[@maykito14]

Our government had a specific reason and deciding factor for taking out Gadaffi He advocated for the Arab world to adopt and solely accept the Gold Dinar for oil sales in place of the US controlled dollar, and this idea was gaining enough traction for our government to see it as a serious threat to our nation’s interests This was the straw that broke the camels back for our nation’s relations with him, but wouldn’t be widely accepted as a valid reason to get rid of him Thankfully for our government, he had a habit of doing all types of other stuff that we could claim as our reason to step in and help out the Libyan people I’ll keep my personal feelings out of this though. I joined the military knowing that a variety of actions fit into defending our nation and it’s “interests”

[@eviLempire2013]

A few points that cemented Gaddafi’s demise: -Gaddafi wanted to make a currency backed by gold -Gaddafi was working on the Great Man-Made River project, which would’ve connected the sub-Libyan desert fresh water to the rest of Africa Pop quiz: which country was helping Gaddafi with this water project?

[@bingobongo1615]

Tinfoil head alarm… Both projects were quite old and he always brought them up with no chance of both ever happening…

[@anthonyyawtwumasimensah197]

​@@bingobongo1615of course a project like that would be old, do you know how long that would take. Also why did NATO forces need to bomb it if it were inconsequential.

Call Mr Beast.

[@jdeedoo]

Man am from Syria and I live the absurd reality, all I want to say is that you are the most responsible voice from western point of view even if the reality may be different and difficult to have a clear idea,I respect your work I hope your voice of reasoning be heard

[@darthimperius8057]

Removal of a leader that had decades of building the "Yes man" structure around himself will always lead to his minions clapping each other for power afterwards. Same happened in Iraq after Saddam was ousted.

[@knoll9812]

Vacuum

[@adrianapostol8360]

Arab Spring was created by your beloved State Department because the world was unipolar, other superpowers were not anymore(Russia was weak).

[@ryannolfe9051]

Former Marine CBRN here. Love your videos, man! Keep it up!

[@lonnieholcomb2078]

FYI, USS Enterprise CVN-65 was an Enterprise Class Carrier, not Nimitz, essentially a one off and in many ways testbed used By Navy to confirm or educate naval architects on how to build a nuclear powered aircraft carrier, that is why "She" was commissioned in 1960 and the learning phase was the following decade, followed by USS Nimitz joining the fleet in 1974, after that learning period. major differences being Enterprise had 8 reactors of the type in service on Submarines , Nimitz have 2 reactors designed specifically for a large Carrier sized vessel. This story would be worthy of telling in its own right.

[@Taskandpurpose]

thank you for the correction greatly appreciate you guys catching that error

[@jeffbeck8993]

Soon as I heard that, I kept thinking to myself, "Did he just say Enterprise was Nimitz class?" .😄 All good, shit happens. Great episode. 👍

[@tomriley5790]

@@jeffbeck8993 it's an average infrantryman not an average sailor...

[@vteck9]

biggest lesson: literally nothing good ever comes from a us intervention and we should just mind our own business

[@QronoZ713]

Ww1, ww2, Korea, Ukraine???

[@miah146]

hows Ukraine going?

[@randot6675]

​@@QronoZ713 South Korea is propped up by US money and is still a shithole under all the glitz and glamour perpetuated by the chaebol, what are you on?

[@sus527]

Moreover you should never intervene in a Islamic country conflict or issues no matter how much one side cry for international help ,they are always complicated clustered issues ranging back to historical conflict let them handle it themselves

[@HighlandUrgentCare]

Hey Chris, excellent job. It's been great watching you evolve from the average infantry man to an important source of well researched information. Keep up the good work!

[@byronharano2391]

Nicely done.

[@xiohntaylur9496]

Every few years or so, the U.S. can somehow find a mad dictator somewhere in a resource rich country. The Arab Spring was a color revolution, Libya had one of the highest standards of living in Africa, and the Libyan government was planning to drop the U.S dollar for oil sales. By the way, I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that slavery of African people is going strong in Libya after the U.S. intervention.

[@Flyingmikey62]

And funny how he didn’t mention how Killery Clinton laughed about how we went in and killed him. I believe the quote is “We came, we saw, he died.” They left the country in ruins and look at it now. Is it a better place without him? I don’t think so.

[@ColoradoStreaming]

Saddam tried to sell his oil in Euros before Iraq was invaded. The Petro-Dollar is a hell of a mandate.

[@juliankraus1011]

Not like the task of finding a mad dictator is particularly difficult. Gaddafi met the criteria by far.

[@xiohntaylur9496]

@juliankraus1011 True, it's not hard, especially when behind the scenes, you are the one that funding and arming them in the first place.

[@juliankraus1011]

@@xiohntaylur9496 You are talking about Gaddafi here, right? After all, he armed and funded terrorist and rebel groups all around the globe for decades. Call it even.

[@mr.normalguy69]

This is probably one of the rarest occasions where I actually felt bad for a dictator.

[@theotherohlourdespadua1131]

Don't. He did this to himself at the moment he chose to shoot at peaceful protesters in 2011. Besides, he supported terrorist groups all over the world. Ever heard of the Moro National Liberation Front and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front in the Philippines? He funded and sent them weapons for 40 years staring in 1973 that caused plenty of security concerns in my country even to this day, the biggest being the fringe groups becoming allies to ISIS...

[@tokebak4291]

@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 USA still looking for those weapons of mass destruction loll

[@shelbyspeaks3287]

@@tokebak4291 they already found them... in Israel. 😆

[@KennyNGA]

but thats something different theyre allied with the world police so theyre allowed to!!! just like if youre friends in nigeria with the police chief you can do everything@@shelbyspeaks3287

[@wedgeantilles8575]

More importantly: You can feel bad for the citizens. The huge majority of the common folk lived WAY better und him. They had more material wealth and most importantly had a way safer life. What exactly has changed for the better? Nothing. They have less stuff then before, there is a ton more crime and murder then before. Hey, it's almost like in Iraq or Egypt, seems like we see some kind of pattern...

[@Raichle9]

Thank you for this. I learned so much through this reporting

[@thatfkingreakreezy010]

Half of what he said is wrong. I'm Libyan and I know .

[@ericgutzat4567]

I am incredibly impressed with your insight, research detail and presentation, not to mention your apparent proficiency of disengaging from bias and emotion. These are all incredibly challenging tasks, and I find your mastery of these tasks to be downright inspiring. As an "Average Infantryman" myself, I can recognize your obvious experience. That experience and insight is hard won, and can change perspective and behavior, indeed thought processes, forever. It is incredibly encouraging to witness your exceptional ability to balance those effects with meticulous analysis and intel. Thank you for your outstanding work.

[@hotttt28]

Thanks Cappy .Another great history review .Unbiased and straightforward!

[@salj.5459]

Definitely not unbiased

[@Hfil66]

I totally agree about the risk of mission creep. Aside from that is the problem that it is not enough to win the war, you have to also win the peace. If the only plans you have is how to win the war then you are doomed to perpetual war because you have no plans fo peace. Winning a war gives you a strong position to win the peace, but it is not itself a sufficiency, and if you are not willing to go that extra step then you are doomed to getting 90% there and falling at the final hurdle.

[@StayFreshMyFriends]

Good point. The Marshall plan and Japanese economic miracle, and bretton-woods won us the peace after WW2. We have yet to replicate that success

[@JacobNoelz]

outstanding work

[@rileymosman2808]

Great video! The only thing I'd add is that when a leader nationalizes an industry that once fell under the umbrella of the private sector (especially a foreign controlled industry) it makes the country seem like a bad investment going forward. Basically you don't wanna set up shop in a country without adequate legal protection for your business.

[@geno92308]

You always make great videos.

[@rayoflight62]

Great historical analysis Mr. Cappy! Every thing you said matched exactly what I recall from that time. Thank you! Anthony

[@singular9]

Recalling western propoganda you mean.

[@StevenSheridan31416]

Same. Except: it's missing something I've learned subsequently, which is that the conflict after the fall of Gaddafi was not due (solely) to organic tensions. Early on, Russia supported a faction opposed to the internationally recognized government. Later, it became a proxy war between Russia and Turkey, with complications, eg France supporting Russia's man, Qatar getting involved.....This leads to at least three important points: 1) sometimes, things aren't as they look - and we should understand that without falling into conspiracy theories. 2) it isn't all about the USA and the locals. The regional proxy war flew completely under our radar, since it didn't involve the USA, and it involved historical connections eg Turkey being the former colonial power (as the Ottoman empire) which we Americans were just ignorant about. 3) the Libyan democratic government didn't fail because new Arab democracies never have a chance, or anything like that; it failed because we set it free to be consumed by regional powers' interests. In conclusion: if we want to support a nascent democracy, we need to commit to stick around acting as training wheels for years, with the understanding that it still might fail. I'd support that, but if the American people writ large aren't prepared to support it, then maybe it's better not to get involved.

[@mhick3333]

Great presentation

[@Tirana-qg1ft]

Great video

[@chomper720]

We broke it and refused to fix it...

[@PrivateerCrew]

Great take for showing both sides , when I saw Gaddafi overthrown I knew that it probably was going to be bad for the people and probably worse without him, Grass isn't always greener on the other side

[@user-py7hr8ni8h]

Grass is never green long in the middle east

[@tomlxyz]

I think this approach is like using a tank to get over the fence that separates but in the process destroying the grass

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

​@@user-py7hr8ni8hactualy the sahara were green a few thousands years ago.

[@mrvwbug4423]

Lybia was fucked either way. Their choice was either Gadaffi's brutal dictatorship, or endless infighting by various rebel groups.

[@uchennaabosi7651]

​@@mrvwbug4423order is better than chaos, at least with him, there was a semblance of order. Two key fact missing in this video is: (1) NATO flooded the entire country with so much weapons that years 20:56 later, Libya was the major arm sellers in the black market. (2) most of the rioters where not even from Libya, they where imported from Egypt and Tunisia. Subsequently, the killing of Ghadafi spooked the Russia so much that they intervene against NATO in Syria. the west was seriously offended with Russia for Saving Asad in Syria that project Ukraine was activated in full force and the sanctions where slapped on Russia with reckless abandon. With Russia bugged down in Ukraine, project Syria and Iran will be activated (right now US carrier is closed to that vicinity)

[@aleue]

This is a good video, it's hard to find objective analysis like this

[@Rasidawg77]

Good job on this vidio