How London's Main Line Termini got their Names

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Jago Hazzard

Jago Hazzard

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Are there cannons at Cannon Street? What was it that made Charing so Cross? Find out in today's video.

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@elliottpartridge5542
@elliottpartridge5542 2 ай бұрын
“Dissolved under Henry VIII, not literally” gave me a very hearty chuckle
@princecharon
@princecharon 2 ай бұрын
It's an important distinction, especially to the monks.
@Mounhas
@Mounhas 2 ай бұрын
Amazed how many use the word “literally” when it most certainly isn’t!
@princecharon
@princecharon 2 ай бұрын
@@Mounhas In this case, it's being used correctly, though.
@ThatGeezer
@ThatGeezer 2 ай бұрын
Three were named by a fan of crabs and their relatives: Kings Crustacean, Charing Crustacean, and St Pan Crustacean...
@royalhero4608
@royalhero4608 2 ай бұрын
Every time I walk past St Pancras, I marvel at the beauty of that station. Some of the finest Victorian architecture in London in my opinion. The fact that it came within a hairs breadth of being torn down, to be replaced no doubt by some brutalist block, is actually inconceivable. God bless you Mr Betjeman!
@MrCherryJuice
@MrCherryJuice 2 ай бұрын
As you likely know, the efforts and success of Mr. Betjeman and the Victorian Society are celebrated with a statue of him within St. Pancras Station. Though they failed to deter British Railways from demolishing the grandeur of Euston Station the Victorian Society did save St. Pancras, the Midland Hotel and also King's Cross, the latter being another touted for demolition. Today those saved edifices stand tall as icons not only of the Victorian era but also of London itself. Long may they survive and thrive.
@royalhero4608
@royalhero4608 2 ай бұрын
@@MrCherryJuice It's a wonderful statue of him! I wasn't around in those days, but it's only recently that I became aware of the arch which used to exist outside Euston, what a travesty they removed something like that
@brianwillson9567
@brianwillson9567 2 ай бұрын
Barlow, AND Scott. The most beautiful building in London.
@RJSRdg
@RJSRdg 2 ай бұрын
@@royalhero4608 There was also a Great Hall at Euston, but I haven't seen much in the way of pictures of it.
@stuartmcconnachie
@stuartmcconnachie 2 ай бұрын
But then you have to balance that against it resulting in The Spice Girls Wannabe.
@paulgoodman8476
@paulgoodman8476 2 ай бұрын
"the name literally means 'turning cross' which is what happens to me when my train is cancelled." --- Classic Jago!
@laudermarauder
@laudermarauder 2 ай бұрын
Bonus fact (international edition): the name of Rome's main railway terminus, Roma Termini, comes from the ancient Roman baths ('thermae') located nearby, and has nothing to do with the station being a terminus.
@saxbend
@saxbend 2 ай бұрын
On a similar note, a lot of Italian stations are built as termini but do not function as such, with trains coming into them, then reversing out to continue journeys elsewhere.
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 2 ай бұрын
@@saxbend And a lot of other European cities too, notably Frankfurt. Britain still has Bradford Interchange, but most others got converted to through stations. But looks like we are getting Birmingham Curzon Street back. Most obscure reversing station has to be Battersby (North Yorkshire).
@oldtechnobodycaresabout
@oldtechnobodycaresabout 2 ай бұрын
Eastbourne works similar@@saxbend
@Cydonius1701
@Cydonius1701 2 ай бұрын
My preferred "Marylebone" pronuniation comes from a Dutch friend hearing it spoken but never having seen it written. He thought they'd said "Marbly Bum". So that stuck in my circlesof friends 😄
@LittleKitty22
@LittleKitty22 2 ай бұрын
Haha, love it!
@ZonkerRoberts
@ZonkerRoberts 2 ай бұрын
"Marbly Bum" it shall be henceforward, as far as I'm concerned!
@ktipuss
@ktipuss 2 ай бұрын
"Mare-lebone" seems to be fairly common too,
@Otacatapetl
@Otacatapetl 2 ай бұрын
I like to confuse Americans by telling them it's pronounced "Middlestraple".
@jvgreendarmok
@jvgreendarmok 2 ай бұрын
Isn't that an Arctic Monkeys song? 😉
@dukeofaaghisle7324
@dukeofaaghisle7324 2 ай бұрын
On behalf of any horses that might be watching this video, I would like to state that eating a bag of raw oatmeal is much more exciting than eating straw.
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart 2 ай бұрын
Jago, the Dominican Order still very much exists and is not "defunct". There aren't many houses left in Britain, but the one in Oxford is fully functional and is even called "Blackfriars". For the record, "Whitefriars" are the Order of Carmelites, "Greyfriars" are Franciscans and Austin Friars are Augustinians, all still up and running. You once covered the Crutched Friars near Tower Hill - this order (a.k.a. the Crosiers) IS now defunct.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 2 ай бұрын
Are the Brown Friars very scared someone is coming for them?
@mickverrall3004
@mickverrall3004 2 ай бұрын
Charing Cross is also the place where all measurements to London on road signs are made from.
@caenieve
@caenieve 2 ай бұрын
Fun fact about Waterloo being named (indirectly) after the Napoleonic Battle of Waterloo which was won by the British and allies over the French - there is a major station in Paris called the Gare d’Austerlitz, named after the Napoleonic Battle of Austerlitz. You’ll never guess who won that one.
@ianpatterson6552
@ianpatterson6552 2 ай бұрын
Even more nerdiness - there was/is Belle Alliance Platz in Berlin for the Inn where Wellington met Blucher. The Prussians proposed that for the Battle name, Wellington being Wellington chose Waterloo in his dispatch to London.
@RJSRdg
@RJSRdg 2 ай бұрын
The other story about Waterloo station is that when Winston Churchill was getting towards the end of his life, a civil servant visited him to make arrangements for his State Funeral. It was agreed that the body would be conveyed by train to Hanborough (in Oxfordshire) by burial. Churchill asked for the funeral train to depart from Waterloo. The Civil Servant pointed out that Paddington was the correct station for Oxfordshire. Churchill eventually said "If de Gaulle is not at the funeral,.it can go from Paddington, but if he is, I want it to go from Waterloo!"
@ianpatterson6552
@ianpatterson6552 2 ай бұрын
@@RJSRdg Churchill also said in WW2 or after that his only cross to bear during it was the Cross of Lorraine. DeGualle being imperious and uncooperative after 1940.
@davethatcher4954
@davethatcher4954 2 ай бұрын
​​@@RJSRdg...... if you watch Churchill's funeral of when the soldiers carry his coffin along a long wooden platform to enter the carriage of the Train, the carpenter and myself built that (we worked in the building department ) of Waterloo Station.
@ianthomson9363
@ianthomson9363 2 ай бұрын
Another fantastic 'things you didn't know but you're glad you now do' video! I have an alternative explanation for Moorgate: When London was still enclosed by its wall, someone had to lock the gates every night to keep the undesirables out. That meant walking all the way round the city, and nobody wanted to do it because it’s such a long way. So a poor little old man who was forced into taking the job because nobody else wanted to do it, and he had to walk round all the gates with his big heavy bunch of keys, and when he got as far as what is now Moorgate he would be getting tired, being so old and frail, so every evening he’d say, ‘Oh no, more gates!’
@LittleKitty22
@LittleKitty22 2 ай бұрын
Haha, poor chap... I know just how he felt, lol.
@artistjoh
@artistjoh 2 ай бұрын
Great story. Thank you for the laugh. The oldest surviving map of London actually depicts the moors outside Moorgate. Apparently, other areas outside the other gates became extensions of the city, but the moors at Moorgate were swampy so they remained mostly undeveloped long after other areas outside the wall were built up. Depending on which direction you little old man was going Moorgate was either the first or the last of the city wall gates. The smaller Postern Gate close to the Tower of London was manned by the Tower, so didn't count. So perhaps rather than lamenting that there were more gates, he would rejoice that 'there was no more :) Old drawings of it show that it was physically one of the largest gate structures with guard rooms, barracks, etc, and presumably a small garrison that presumably controlled the opening and closing of the gate. Perhaps those empty moors were a place where undesirables could hide out, and presumably, if the French (or Vikings)were invading, the open ground would be suitable for bringing in an army, so I suspect it was considered a security hotspot needing strong defenses. Your story does bring up an interesting question. How easy was it to enter the city after dark?
@pdrg
@pdrg 2 ай бұрын
I love that London and the whole country naming convention has so much history baked in. When you go to "New World" countries, names are often a copy/paste without the embedded lineage. My favourite has to be Knightsbridge - what wonderful images that conjures up!
@calvinmarkpayne
@calvinmarkpayne 2 ай бұрын
I love that etymology is such a great word.
@NineEyeRon
@NineEyeRon 2 ай бұрын
But where did it come from?
@Jordan_Starr
@Jordan_Starr 2 ай бұрын
​@@NineEyeRonfrom the ancient greek "etumos" meaning true, and "logos" meaning word 😊
@JohnADoe-pg1qk
@JohnADoe-pg1qk 2 ай бұрын
But don't confuse it with entomology.
@orwellboy1958
@orwellboy1958 2 ай бұрын
I'm not really interested in trains and I could count on the fingers of one hand how many times I've been on the Underground and I definitely have no interest in London, yet every time Jago posts a new video here I am.
@maestroazzey
@maestroazzey 2 ай бұрын
I think we should hold a petition to rename Cannon Street (back) into Candlewright Street/Candlewick Street as it sounds so much better and gives the underappreciated station next to it a bit more rizz.
@u1zha
@u1zha 2 ай бұрын
Candlebone
@michaelcallummayaka
@michaelcallummayaka Ай бұрын
I agree, Cannon Street sounds very boring somehow. Even though cannons aren't that boring, and candlewrights or wicks aren't that interesting. Just better sounding words.
@karlosh9286
@karlosh9286 2 ай бұрын
I've seen my fair share of Bedlam at Liverpool Street station over the last 4 decades. Usually when something has gone wrong like signals, points or over head cables. At times like those I think it should be renamed back to Bedlam !
@PaulMcElligott
@PaulMcElligott 2 ай бұрын
“Oyster cards are not valid at Lake Havasu.” Oh… That explains a lot.
@jimroberts3651
@jimroberts3651 2 ай бұрын
The original Charing Cross was a short distance away at the nearest corner of what is now Trafalgar Square. The actual spot where the cross was built is now buried under a complicated traffic scheme.
@martinstent5339
@martinstent5339 2 ай бұрын
I was waiting for Vauxhall. I recently discovered that the Russian word for (railway) station is вокзал (vokzal) which is taken from either Vauxhall gardens or (more likely) the nearby Vauxhall station. Now there is a weird etymology, but a Russian one and not an English one.
@kgbgb3663
@kgbgb3663 2 ай бұрын
Apparently the guy who built the first Russian railways took a trip on the LSW before starting, and asked his English host "What do you call _that?"_ pointing at the station they were passing through. He got his answer, and the name stuck.
@Otacatapetl
@Otacatapetl 2 ай бұрын
​@@kgbgb3663 He was asking for the English for "station", but they misunderstood, and said "Vauxhall". It's now the de facto official Russian word for "station".
@nigelcole1936
@nigelcole1936 2 ай бұрын
I love the one named after the bear lol. and thanks for the Oyster card tip... very useful
@DavidRobinson1978
@DavidRobinson1978 2 ай бұрын
Wonder if contactless works? 😂
@sheltie777
@sheltie777 2 ай бұрын
One reason Brunel located the terminus of the GWR at Paddington was because of a Branch of the Grand Union Canal which terminated at Paddington Basin. He was hoping his railway would take over some of the goods traffic which had previously been going by canal boat; and the rest is history..
@michaelvyse9728
@michaelvyse9728 2 ай бұрын
Re: the “Charing” in Charing Cross: Queen Eleanor, in whose memory the crosses were set up en route to her funeral (4:12) was known by King Edward I as «Mon cher Reine» (“My dear Queen”): hence Charing”, and the reason why it’s sometimes pronounced to rhyme with “airing”.
@b34m270
@b34m270 2 ай бұрын
"my deer queen" means "ma chère reine"
@Peterwhy
@Peterwhy 2 ай бұрын
@@b34m270 Would "my deer queen" be "ma biche reine" ?
@markiangooley
@markiangooley 2 ай бұрын
Euston used to have a team of competitive mathematicians called the Euston Eulers…
@NicholasNA
@NicholasNA 2 ай бұрын
There’s a literary reference to there being two stations at Victoria in Wilde’s Importance of being Ernest - as the handbag had been left at the cloak-room on the Brighton line (although Lady Bracknell considers that the line is immaterial).
@Rog5446
@Rog5446 2 ай бұрын
Naming stations to avoid confusion with other stations reminds me of the ex-GWR station of Midgham, which is actually in the village of Woolhampton. The village of Midgham being about a mile away as the crow flies. GWR did not want passengers at Paddington bound for Wolverhampton getting on a Woolhampton train by mistake, hence they called Woolhampton Midgham instead.
@tbjtbj7930
@tbjtbj7930 2 ай бұрын
Well the only problem with that story is... who would ever want to go to Wolverhampton? ;-)
@localboys7449
@localboys7449 2 ай бұрын
@@tbjtbj7930😂😂😂
@hens0w
@hens0w 2 ай бұрын
Waterloo has a problem with Weighbridge (on the edge of London) and Weymouth (about as far as you can get in one train from Waterloo) - both operating as termini On the basis of what happens in that case, I think its for the best.
@fussyboy2000
@fussyboy2000 2 ай бұрын
I learned that from Lord of the Flies.
@Titan604
@Titan604 2 ай бұрын
At Derby you can board trains for Newark Castle and Newcastle!
@lapiswake6583
@lapiswake6583 2 ай бұрын
I've never heard the GCR/Chiltern terminus pronounced "whatever" before... An excellent video. More please!
@proanimali
@proanimali 2 ай бұрын
Thank you. This video is a shining star in the collection of linguistically funny videos. It certainly helped my rainy Sunday to brighten (or Brighton) up a bit.
@GiselleBel
@GiselleBel 2 ай бұрын
Your videos often make me chuckle. You got two laughs-out-loud for the turning cross, and the oatmeal comments. Love your sense of humour, I swear it's what makes me keep coming back. Fascinating subject too, really enjoyed it!
@mikesummers-smith4091
@mikesummers-smith4091 2 ай бұрын
A major sub-plot of the 1940 comic novel _Don't, Mr Disraeli!_ by Caryl Brahms and SJ Simon is a committee arguing over and desperately coming up with ever sillier names for the London end of the Brighton train.
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 2 ай бұрын
SJ Simon had a parallel career as a top bridge player and writer. His 1948 classic Why you Lose at Bridge is still in print today (and still relevant I'm afraid!)
@mikesummers-smith4091
@mikesummers-smith4091 2 ай бұрын
@@iankemp1131 IMO the best book on the game ever written. It's one of the very few which deal with the partnership aspect (which Mr Smug understood to some extent and the Unlucky Expert not at all). _Cut for Partners_ is also worth a read - as is the out-of-print and appallingly proofread _Design for Bidding_
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 2 ай бұрын
@@mikesummers-smith4091 Yes, I would agree with you on all counts. I dip back into all those books periodically, especially after a bad result that reminds me of some of the wisdom in them, or if I've made a "Futile Willie" mistake. I managed to get hold of a second hand copy of DfB some years ago. Possibly the only book that really tries to explain why you make particular bids as well as which bids to make, and how it all fits into a system. Have often thought it would be good to have a more modern book along similar lines!
@mikesummers-smith4091
@mikesummers-smith4091 2 ай бұрын
@@iankemp1131 If you can find a copy, pick up _The Secrets of Winning Bridge_ by Jeff Rubens. It includes practical advice such as - in a pickup game, play your partner's concard. This has all sorts of advantages.
@ash36230
@ash36230 2 ай бұрын
I heard King's Cross got its name because the King once tried to catch a train at the station, but in typical fashion it was delayed and so everyone said "Look. The King's Cross"
@LittleKitty22
@LittleKitty22 2 ай бұрын
I have no doubt he was always cross... they are moody chaps. The current king takes after his ancestors.
@lornamarie5544
@lornamarie5544 2 ай бұрын
So I just made a comment on another video wondering about this subject and suddenly this video appeared in my suggestions. That algorithm doesn’t miss a beat 😁. Thanks JH👍🏽
@captainboing
@captainboing 2 ай бұрын
Interesting fact: all distances to "London" are measured from Charing Cross
@gorkyshaw
@gorkyshaw 2 ай бұрын
7:10, thank you for the clarification with "not literally" at 7:17. For a moment there, I was a bit worried about the fate of the Blackfriars :D
@JohnJohn-hd1pc
@JohnJohn-hd1pc 2 ай бұрын
Re Paddington - you mentioned Peada. The reason i know about this King of the Mercians (655 AD), is due to spending most of my childhood in Padiham, Lancashire. His father, King Penda, had a nearby hill named after him (Pendle Hill) which later became famous for its witches. Hope that helps.
@DevilishScience
@DevilishScience 2 ай бұрын
Are you sure about the origin of Pendle Hill? Isn't the 'pen' from the Celtic pen meaning hill, as in Pennines, Appenines?
@JohnJohn-hd1pc
@JohnJohn-hd1pc 2 ай бұрын
@@DevilishScience Hi. No, I'm not sure, just what i was told as a child.
@stuartcoates1217
@stuartcoates1217 2 ай бұрын
21:35. London station names can cause problems for some. Some years ago, I was a rail replacement bus manager at Warrington Bank Quay, with our staff directing passengers to reach their destinations. Staff: “Where are you going please?” Foreign tourists: “Liverpool.” Staff: “We don’t have services to Liverpool. May I see your ticket?” The tickets showed their destination as Liverpool Street. They had been at Euston and no one had checked their tickets there or along the 200 mile journey. We helped them find some accommodation before their return to London the following day.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 2 ай бұрын
where was their starting station ?
@norbitonflyer5625
@norbitonflyer5625 2 ай бұрын
Strange. There are trains from both Warrington stations to Liverpool.
@michaelcallummayaka
@michaelcallummayaka Ай бұрын
@@norbitonflyer5625 But they must not have been replaced by buses on those days.
@jumpingjeffflash9946
@jumpingjeffflash9946 2 ай бұрын
American that enjoys these videos and I love visiting London, it's such a cool city, historical, has friendly people, the tube gets you anywhere as do the trains. You filmed from right in front of where I stay each go, The Citizen M at Tower HIll. I look forward to a return trip (and hopefully no rail strikes or drone incidents again, the latter causing me to be stuck there 3 extra days in 2018)
@philipwhiuk
@philipwhiuk 2 ай бұрын
Euston itself probably comes from "Efe's Tun" - Efe, being an old personal name and 'Tun' meaning farmstead. Euston is a village in Suffolk. It had a Hall, which was owned by the Dukes of Grafton, who then owned lots of land in North London.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 2 ай бұрын
The Grafton Arms is in that bit of South London that is north of the Thames - Victoria . I think a Mr Grafton owned it (Strutton Ground)
@williamstringer6519
@williamstringer6519 2 ай бұрын
Jago has one of the very best voices on KZbin. That together with the scenes of London's streets and railway stations makes his videos required viewing to this elderly ex-Londoner now living in sunny Queensland
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 2 ай бұрын
Jago eats a bag of raw oatmeal challenge.
@KevinTheCaravanner
@KevinTheCaravanner 2 ай бұрын
It’s what we Jagoites do when watching these videos.
@weetjeweetje4054
@weetjeweetje4054 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this interesting video. However, I have to make 1 correction. The battle of Waterloo did not take place in Waterloo but in Braine-l'Alleud, which is about 3.5 km south of Waterloo. The Duke of Wellington had his headquarters in Waterloo. That is probably the reason why it is called the battle of Waterloo (or maybe because it is easier to pronounce than the battle of Braine-l'Alleud).
@sandy_knight
@sandy_knight 2 ай бұрын
Sounds about right, IIRC they covered this on QI (that's why I searched the comments and found this answer at least) 😉
@kevinjohnbetts
@kevinjohnbetts 2 ай бұрын
The French call it _Mont Saint-Jean_ which is a farm or hamlet (depending on sources) just North of Wellington's position. The Prussians referred to it a _La Belle Alliance_ which was/is the inn South of Napoleon's position where Wellington and Blucher met as the battle concluded. Both probably make more sense than Waterloo or _Braine l'Allaud_ as neither of these are part of the battlefield. Now I feel like a Napoleonic nerd. Which, for my sins, I probably am. 😎
@michaelcallummayaka
@michaelcallummayaka Ай бұрын
The question is how do the French pronounce Waterloo?
@weetjeweetje4054
@weetjeweetje4054 Ай бұрын
​@@michaelcallummayaka In almost the same way as the Flemish people do but with a more pronounced "W".
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 2 ай бұрын
I love a bit of etymology so thanks!
@gs425
@gs425 2 ай бұрын
Jago...this is the BEST video you've ever done. The jokes are true Easter eggs...worth hunting for!!!
@SimonFairbourn
@SimonFairbourn 2 ай бұрын
I’ve not seen another comment on the subject so here goes… It was my understanding that Charring as in the cross derived from the French for beloved Queen - chère reine - literally the one that was in transit.
@PeterGaunt
@PeterGaunt 2 ай бұрын
'As interesting as eating a bag of raw oatmeal'. Brill: I shall use that one (if I can remember it).
@randomguy-tg7ok
@randomguy-tg7ok 2 ай бұрын
That shot at 8:22 really got my brain whirring. 450125 wasn't one of the last ones repainted, if memory serves, and it's heading to Woking, which is a diagram that's been covered by 455s for as long as I can remember. So presumably that was shot on a Sunday at least a year ago...
@jon6815
@jon6815 2 ай бұрын
"...came online, as it were" - Nice one Jago!
@johnholt890
@johnholt890 2 ай бұрын
Euston is actually a village in Suffolk mentioned in the Domesday Book. The Dukes of Grafton live there at Euston Hall hence the junior title of the son and heir Earl of Euston.
@paulketchupwitheverything767
@paulketchupwitheverything767 2 ай бұрын
The Battle of Waterloo took place in the Netherlands. The southern provinces of the Netherlands separated in 1830 to create Belgium. Terminally excellent video, nevertheless.
@englishciderlover7347
@englishciderlover7347 2 ай бұрын
To be exact, the old London Bridge is now in Lake Havasu City, Arizona. Lake Havasu is a reservoir on the Colorado River.
@araptorofnote5938
@araptorofnote5938 2 ай бұрын
The story is mostly a myth. It's true that the old bridge was offered 'for sale', but this was just the playful way that the contractors tasked with selling and disposing of the rubble used to attract a suitable tender. The bridge in Arizona was already built. It's owner won the tender, but only thin slices of the old bridge's weathered facing stones were shipped to Lake Havasu to be used as 'cladding' on his new bridge.
@brucewilliams8714
@brucewilliams8714 2 ай бұрын
Isn't it the case that the purchaser of the London Bridge to, take to America, thought he was buying the more striking Tower Bridge.
@PavlosPapageorgiou
@PavlosPapageorgiou 2 ай бұрын
I do think of the station name when arriving somewhere. Of these the least obvious was Euston. Also I'd have guessed Charing Cross referred to an activity. Boarding a stagecoach perhaps.
@andrewpinner3181
@andrewpinner3181 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Jago, an interesting field trip in every video ! Turning Cross ! 😂
@tantaf123
@tantaf123 2 ай бұрын
another video that catches my interest. With every video brings new secret facts about London and Trains, what’s not to love about this channel?
@Chevy-jordan
@Chevy-jordan 2 ай бұрын
4:45 The charring meaning turning is in relation to the sharp bend in the River Thames, of which charring cross is sat above.
@captaincatchy
@captaincatchy 2 ай бұрын
Good stuff as usual. You could perhaps have mentioned that Euston is a place in Suffolk (not London, originally) - that's where the Fitzroys were earls of.
@6allmotivepowers363
@6allmotivepowers363 2 ай бұрын
Very interesting! I got to see five of the London terminus stations during my UK trip last year: St. Pancras, Victoria, King's Cross, Waterloo, and Paddington - they are my favorites in that order. For anyone following the timeline: 1) London Bridge - 1836; 2) Euston - 1837; 3) Paddington - 1838; 4) Fenchurch Street - 1841; 5) Waterloo - 1848; 6) King's Cross - 1852; 7) Victoria - 1860; 8) Charing Cross - 1864; 9) Moorgate - 1865; 10) Cannon Street - 1866; 11) St. Pancras - 1868; 12) Liverpool Street - 1874; 13) Blackfriars - 1886; 14) Marylebone - 1899.
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 2 ай бұрын
Many people incorrectly pronounce Marylebone. I'm told by locals its correct pronunciation is "Marrabun" Many people get St Pancras embarrassingly wrong by calling it St *Pancreas*
@caw25sha
@caw25sha 2 ай бұрын
I read about that in a book. Well actually it was in the appendix.
@roderickmain9697
@roderickmain9697 2 ай бұрын
@@caw25sha Irs been infecting people for years. Should probably have it removed.
@nielmcewen3736
@nielmcewen3736 2 ай бұрын
London wool workers moved to Dublin in the 1690s and named their new home Marylebone. The Dubliners have mangled it to Marrowbone Lane.
@andrewnorth170
@andrewnorth170 2 ай бұрын
@@caw25sha "Tumbleweed floats by"
@t.p.mckenna
@t.p.mckenna 2 ай бұрын
@@caw25sha I always tear those pages out!
@MrScoot27
@MrScoot27 2 ай бұрын
I always thought that one of these termini was named after an Abba song, so this is genuinely informative.
@paulketchupwitheverything767
@paulketchupwitheverything767 2 ай бұрын
Knowing me, Knowing Euston?
@tt-ew7rx
@tt-ew7rx 2 ай бұрын
A very good way of making an enduring location name is to give a station a name and if the station endures and becomes a focal point a whole area will become named after that. King's Cross, Charing Cross, Victoria, Euston etc. Street names usually do not become area names without being boosted by having a station named after them...
@ferstuck37
@ferstuck37 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, Jago! 👌always appreciate the history you impart.
@neilbain8736
@neilbain8736 2 ай бұрын
No flies on your etymology! A pleasing video to end a large cup of coffee. I swear I only rent the cup...
@KevinTheCaravanner
@KevinTheCaravanner 2 ай бұрын
Don’t forget the raw oats.
@neilbain8736
@neilbain8736 2 ай бұрын
@@KevinTheCaravanner oatymology?
@roboftherock
@roboftherock 2 ай бұрын
@@KevinTheCaravanner They call it muesli nowdays.
@ACHowes
@ACHowes 2 ай бұрын
Hi Jago. I am working in the car park under Smithfield’s market (I believe a goods station was here previously? But on the spiral down under ground to the car park the walls appear to be protected with broad gauge bridge rails. There appears to be a wealth of railway history in this car park, all about to be erased from existence in the name of ‘regeneration’
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 2 ай бұрын
Tell Didcot Railway Centre, they would probably want to salvage them!
@michaelwest4325
@michaelwest4325 2 ай бұрын
My preferred way to say it is "Mar-le-Bone" in a rather cheeky French fashion. Going from London proper to Marlow via Wycombe and nearly missing the last train always on the far track with the tube arriving so very near its departure had me needing a laugh or being quite cross!
@rupep2424
@rupep2424 2 ай бұрын
And there's the terminus being built nearish (cuddly old) Paddington. Perhaps more of a (far-away) Clanger Junction than a (useful) Wombleview?
@nigeldewallens1115
@nigeldewallens1115 2 ай бұрын
I used to go to collage in the cut and there was a street called Hatfields near buy! A book we had, says it was called that, as people used to make hats in a field! That was great fun!
@adrianrutterford762
@adrianrutterford762 2 ай бұрын
Fascinating video. Always improved by a happy “Cheerio” at the end.
@CeeKay42069
@CeeKay42069 2 ай бұрын
Living in east Africa, playing British monopoly as a kid, we referred to that station as Mary-Le-Bone. As an adult… that name is quite something.
@SamLyndonShow
@SamLyndonShow 2 ай бұрын
I was actually hoping for years long arguments and legal battles between companies I'd never heard of about naming a station that was then changed 15 years later anyway
@Play_fare
@Play_fare 2 ай бұрын
London termini names are so unforgettable and steeped in history. Where I am, larger stations are usually just [place name] union or central or station. Not a lot of imagination. Some places actually owe their names to the post office as it expanded services into new territory and wanted uniqueness to make delivery easier. This fact has also kept around old place names long after they have been absorbed or amalgamated into other entities. In Ottawa, where I live, the post office says that I live in Gloucester, which hasn’t legally existed for almost 2 decades. The same goes for Nepean and Kanata, cities that are part of Ottawa but technically don’t exist. Toronto is has even more of this kind of thing because of expansions and amalgamations. Some of the older names for areas disappear over time as they become forgotten and landmarks disappear. London seems to retain more of its area names (albeit corrupted over time) and connections with early settlement history.
@maryapatterson
@maryapatterson 2 ай бұрын
We had something similar just outside London, an area called Middlesex. Middlesex was an area long swallowed up, but we still wrote it on letters but that was about 20 years ago? Im sure a postie or some other expert will correct me😂.
@ktipuss
@ktipuss 2 ай бұрын
Note that all the Monopoly stations are former LNER stations. Victoria Street Station on the Newcastle-Maitland line (NSW) was also opened in 1857 just a few years later than London's Victoria. One of a handful of stations in NSW not named after the suburb in which they are located.
@roberthuron9160
@roberthuron9160 2 ай бұрын
And now,for something completely different! There is in New York[named after the Duke of York],the leftovers from the Colony of New Amsterdam,the prior Dutch settlement! Most people will recognize some names,but there were more! So onto the foray! Place names- Brooklyn[Breukelen],Bushwick[Boswyck],Harlem,New Utrecht,Flatbush[Midwout],and many street names,and streetcar routes,and later Elevated and Subway stations! Also if you go up the Hudson,traveling on the old NYC,there are any number of Dutch names,add also on Long Island! Anyway,there is a persistence of history in the most unlikely of places! Thank you Jago,and may your linguistic hunt be fruitful! Thank you 😇 😊!
@grahampaulkendrick7845
@grahampaulkendrick7845 2 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this.
@isashax
@isashax 2 ай бұрын
Fab video, thanks Jago!
@Jimyjames73
@Jimyjames73 2 ай бұрын
Very Interesting - Thanks for sharing Jago 😉🚂🚂🚂
@MarcDuffyTV
@MarcDuffyTV 2 ай бұрын
Another great video Jago! I laughed out loud a few times too!
@temy4895
@temy4895 2 ай бұрын
Following on from the "London's Many Abandoned Termini" video, one covering their etymology seems like it would be a good fit. Between this one and your general form, I have no doubt it would be a good one.
@bennetfox
@bennetfox 2 ай бұрын
Aww dang I was hoping that Piccadilly Circus would be one of the stops because I've always been curious about that one!!
@MrGreatplum
@MrGreatplum 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video, Jago - some brilliant punnage as well!
@lynnlambert8745
@lynnlambert8745 2 ай бұрын
Loved this. Interesting, and witty
@hymek7017
@hymek7017 2 ай бұрын
Excellent content. Interesting, informative and also laugh out loud funny. Many thanks.
@smogmonster1876
@smogmonster1876 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant. Entertaining and educational. Thank you Jago. A lovely 9 minutes.
@LewisCollard
@LewisCollard 2 ай бұрын
A lovely watch & listen, as always. I love the Network SouthEast remnants you found at 3:40 and 8:07.
@itsonlyme9938
@itsonlyme9938 2 ай бұрын
There is in Cheshire UK 3 small villages one is called Peaover , Little Peaover and inferior Peaover. There are no train stations to them but if they did it some people might cause wee confusion to some people.
@navelriver
@navelriver 2 ай бұрын
Great names!
@richardberechula2942
@richardberechula2942 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant. Informative. Entertaining. Upbeat & funny. Thanks, Mr. Tom! Way-to-go, Mr Tom! MORE, please!
@aoifeann1238
@aoifeann1238 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, this was so interesting!
@vincenthuying98
@vincenthuying98 2 ай бұрын
Dear Jago, love the etymological haberdashery of the London termini. Strictly fell apart at the historical explanation for the word ‘padder.’ Which our contemporary devices of inquisition so promptly mistreat into the ‘panda,’ hence ‘bear’ on your side, and ‘passer’(in Dutch) meaning compass. As the paddler of your etymological plight, I straddle towards the crosses of the iron road and found myself at the head shunt. Can’t be more terminal than that. All’s well, all’s well. Cheerio
@homeonegreen9
@homeonegreen9 2 ай бұрын
There are still Blackfriars (Dominican, or Order of Preachers) they just had to find a new priory when Catholics were legal in England again.
@brettpalfrey4665
@brettpalfrey4665 2 ай бұрын
I have never been to Marylebone, but if I ever do, I will make sure i have some raw oatmeal with me! thanks again, Jago!
@jeantremlett174
@jeantremlett174 2 ай бұрын
Marylebone is quite unique
@opathe2nd973
@opathe2nd973 2 ай бұрын
Alway enjoy my time with you. Good job as usual
@user-hy3gi9zx2m
@user-hy3gi9zx2m 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for interesting video!
@RC534
@RC534 2 ай бұрын
Nice. I once visited lake Havasu. Which off-course one might also know from the reference in the movie Falling Down ;-). It's quite a contrast the old Londen bridge in the desert. They actually made a small diversion in the Colorado river thus creating an artificial island to give it a function 🙂.
@paulsengupta971
@paulsengupta971 2 ай бұрын
Yep, I've been there too.
@Batters56
@Batters56 2 ай бұрын
It’s interesting that these termini were by and large given the names of the areas they actually were in. Given that we’ve learned from your other videos that railway companies loved to claim they were nearer the most desirable places that they could claim to be serving. Even if it that was actually miles away! For example Cannon Street could easily have been City of London, for example.
@norbitonflyer5625
@norbitonflyer5625 2 ай бұрын
Cannon Street is in the City of London, as are Blackfriars, City Thameslink, Fenchrch Street, Liverpool Street and Moorgate. But the only stations in the City of London called "City" were the terminus of the waterloo & City Line (now renamed Bank), and the newest one, City Thameslink, which was renamed from "St Pauls" for the same reason Blackfriars was.
@dylanjohns8913
@dylanjohns8913 2 ай бұрын
You're the best Jago
@antonydennett5938
@antonydennett5938 2 ай бұрын
Another bit of the history of London. Fascinating to learn.
@chrisperry7963
@chrisperry7963 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant.
@artistjoh
@artistjoh 2 ай бұрын
It should be pointed out the the probable meaning of a turn, or a bend of the old word Charing almost certainly refers to the sharp bend in the Thames near there, although it is also possible that there was a sharp bend in the road at that point. Thank you for the discussion on Cannon Street. It was already known as Cannon Street by the time of Shakespeare because it is mentioned in one of his plays (Henry IV) It is also seen as Cannon Street on the earliest surviving map of London, the Civitas Londonium. The London Guildhall has a copy from 1633, but the original drawing for the printed map was made around 60 years earlier. It names Cannon Street as such. You have to go back to 1190 to see it mentioned as Candelwrichstrete (candle wright's street). Cannon Street has a surprisingly old name, with few remembering its significant origins that certainly goes back to the Norman era, probably to Saxon times, and could possibly stretch back as far as Roman London. Candles and oil lamps have been the primary lighting source for millennia, and there was a need for the candle making industry for as long as London has existed. The only question is where it was located in the earliest years.
@carolrule970
@carolrule970 2 ай бұрын
That was fabulous
@Perrygallo
@Perrygallo 2 ай бұрын
Very interesting and humorous as ever!
@terryough6330
@terryough6330 2 ай бұрын
Good stuff! How about the same for major non-terminal stations (or rather the area where they are situated)? Stratford, Clapham Junc and Heathrow are nationally significant, but also Finsbury Park, Ealing Bwy, Richmond, Wimbledon & East Croydon - or whatever takes your fancy.
@royalhero4608
@royalhero4608 2 ай бұрын
As an unfortunate resident of Croydon, the name means Valley of the Crocus, there's also a link to lots of saffrons growing there in the past too. Which is about as far as you can get from accurately describing the murderous concrete jungle it's become!
@msg5507
@msg5507 2 ай бұрын
Pulling out the popcorn and subscribing for the Marylebone commentors munching their raw oatmeal...
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