“Dissolved under Henry VIII, not literally” gave me a very hearty chuckle
@princecharon8 ай бұрын
It's an important distinction, especially to the monks.
@Mounhas8 ай бұрын
Amazed how many use the word “literally” when it most certainly isn’t!
@princecharon8 ай бұрын
@@Mounhas In this case, it's being used correctly, though.
@ThatGeezer8 ай бұрын
Three were named by a fan of crabs and their relatives: Kings Crustacean, Charing Crustacean, and St Pan Crustacean...
@royalhero46088 ай бұрын
Every time I walk past St Pancras, I marvel at the beauty of that station. Some of the finest Victorian architecture in London in my opinion. The fact that it came within a hairs breadth of being torn down, to be replaced no doubt by some brutalist block, is actually inconceivable. God bless you Mr Betjeman!
@MrCherryJuice8 ай бұрын
As you likely know, the efforts and success of Mr. Betjeman and the Victorian Society are celebrated with a statue of him within St. Pancras Station. Though they failed to deter British Railways from demolishing the grandeur of Euston Station the Victorian Society did save St. Pancras, the Midland Hotel and also King's Cross, the latter being another touted for demolition. Today those saved edifices stand tall as icons not only of the Victorian era but also of London itself. Long may they survive and thrive.
@royalhero46088 ай бұрын
@@MrCherryJuice It's a wonderful statue of him! I wasn't around in those days, but it's only recently that I became aware of the arch which used to exist outside Euston, what a travesty they removed something like that
@brianwillson95678 ай бұрын
Barlow, AND Scott. The most beautiful building in London.
@RJSRdg8 ай бұрын
@@royalhero4608 There was also a Great Hall at Euston, but I haven't seen much in the way of pictures of it.
@stuartmcconnachie8 ай бұрын
But then you have to balance that against it resulting in The Spice Girls Wannabe.
@paulgoodman84768 ай бұрын
"the name literally means 'turning cross' which is what happens to me when my train is cancelled." --- Classic Jago!
@Cydonius17018 ай бұрын
My preferred "Marylebone" pronuniation comes from a Dutch friend hearing it spoken but never having seen it written. He thought they'd said "Marbly Bum". So that stuck in my circlesof friends 😄
@LittleKitty228 ай бұрын
Haha, love it!
@ZonkerRoberts8 ай бұрын
"Marbly Bum" it shall be henceforward, as far as I'm concerned!
@ktipuss8 ай бұрын
"Mare-lebone" seems to be fairly common too,
@Otacatapetl7 ай бұрын
I like to confuse Americans by telling them it's pronounced "Middlestraple".
@jvgreendarmok7 ай бұрын
Isn't that an Arctic Monkeys song? 😉
@mickverrall30048 ай бұрын
Charing Cross is also the place where all measurements to London on road signs are made from.
@laudermarauder8 ай бұрын
Bonus fact (international edition): the name of Rome's main railway terminus, Roma Termini, comes from the ancient Roman baths ('thermae') located nearby, and has nothing to do with the station being a terminus.
@saxbend8 ай бұрын
On a similar note, a lot of Italian stations are built as termini but do not function as such, with trains coming into them, then reversing out to continue journeys elsewhere.
@iankemp11318 ай бұрын
@@saxbend And a lot of other European cities too, notably Frankfurt. Britain still has Bradford Interchange, but most others got converted to through stations. But looks like we are getting Birmingham Curzon Street back. Most obscure reversing station has to be Battersby (North Yorkshire).
@oldtechnobodycaresabout8 ай бұрын
Eastbourne works similar@@saxbend
@caenieve8 ай бұрын
Fun fact about Waterloo being named (indirectly) after the Napoleonic Battle of Waterloo which was won by the British and allies over the French - there is a major station in Paris called the Gare d’Austerlitz, named after the Napoleonic Battle of Austerlitz. You’ll never guess who won that one.
@ianpatterson65528 ай бұрын
Even more nerdiness - there was/is Belle Alliance Platz in Berlin for the Inn where Wellington met Blucher. The Prussians proposed that for the Battle name, Wellington being Wellington chose Waterloo in his dispatch to London.
@RJSRdg8 ай бұрын
The other story about Waterloo station is that when Winston Churchill was getting towards the end of his life, a civil servant visited him to make arrangements for his State Funeral. It was agreed that the body would be conveyed by train to Hanborough (in Oxfordshire) by burial. Churchill asked for the funeral train to depart from Waterloo. The Civil Servant pointed out that Paddington was the correct station for Oxfordshire. Churchill eventually said "If de Gaulle is not at the funeral,.it can go from Paddington, but if he is, I want it to go from Waterloo!"
@ianpatterson65528 ай бұрын
@@RJSRdg Churchill also said in WW2 or after that his only cross to bear during it was the Cross of Lorraine. DeGualle being imperious and uncooperative after 1940.
@davethatcher49548 ай бұрын
@@RJSRdg...... if you watch Churchill's funeral of when the soldiers carry his coffin along a long wooden platform to enter the carriage of the Train, the carpenter and myself built that (we worked in the building department ) of Waterloo Station.
@MB-co6qj2 ай бұрын
Waterloo = Water forest literally
@lornamarie55447 ай бұрын
So I just made a comment on another video wondering about this subject and suddenly this video appeared in my suggestions. That algorithm doesn’t miss a beat 😁. Thanks JH👍🏽
@pdrg7 ай бұрын
I love that London and the whole country naming convention has so much history baked in. When you go to "New World" countries, names are often a copy/paste without the embedded lineage. My favourite has to be Knightsbridge - what wonderful images that conjures up!
@NicholasNA8 ай бұрын
There’s a literary reference to there being two stations at Victoria in Wilde’s Importance of being Ernest - as the handbag had been left at the cloak-room on the Brighton line (although Lady Bracknell considers that the line is immaterial).
@PaulMcElligott8 ай бұрын
“Oyster cards are not valid at Lake Havasu.” Oh… That explains a lot.
@ianthomson93638 ай бұрын
Another fantastic 'things you didn't know but you're glad you now do' video! I have an alternative explanation for Moorgate: When London was still enclosed by its wall, someone had to lock the gates every night to keep the undesirables out. That meant walking all the way round the city, and nobody wanted to do it because it’s such a long way. So a poor little old man who was forced into taking the job because nobody else wanted to do it, and he had to walk round all the gates with his big heavy bunch of keys, and when he got as far as what is now Moorgate he would be getting tired, being so old and frail, so every evening he’d say, ‘Oh no, more gates!’
@LittleKitty228 ай бұрын
Haha, poor chap... I know just how he felt, lol.
@artistjoh8 ай бұрын
Great story. Thank you for the laugh. The oldest surviving map of London actually depicts the moors outside Moorgate. Apparently, other areas outside the other gates became extensions of the city, but the moors at Moorgate were swampy so they remained mostly undeveloped long after other areas outside the wall were built up. Depending on which direction you little old man was going Moorgate was either the first or the last of the city wall gates. The smaller Postern Gate close to the Tower of London was manned by the Tower, so didn't count. So perhaps rather than lamenting that there were more gates, he would rejoice that 'there was no more :) Old drawings of it show that it was physically one of the largest gate structures with guard rooms, barracks, etc, and presumably a small garrison that presumably controlled the opening and closing of the gate. Perhaps those empty moors were a place where undesirables could hide out, and presumably, if the French (or Vikings)were invading, the open ground would be suitable for bringing in an army, so I suspect it was considered a security hotspot needing strong defenses. Your story does bring up an interesting question. How easy was it to enter the city after dark?
@sheltie7778 ай бұрын
One reason Brunel located the terminus of the GWR at Paddington was because of a Branch of the Grand Union Canal which terminated at Paddington Basin. He was hoping his railway would take over some of the goods traffic which had previously been going by canal boat; and the rest is history..
@calvinmarkpayne8 ай бұрын
I love that etymology is such a great word.
@NineEyeRon8 ай бұрын
But where did it come from?
@Jordan_Starr8 ай бұрын
@@NineEyeRonfrom the ancient greek "etumos" meaning true, and "logos" meaning word 😊
@JohnADoe-pg1qk8 ай бұрын
But don't confuse it with entomology.
@mikesummers-smith40918 ай бұрын
A major sub-plot of the 1940 comic novel _Don't, Mr Disraeli!_ by Caryl Brahms and SJ Simon is a committee arguing over and desperately coming up with ever sillier names for the London end of the Brighton train.
@iankemp11318 ай бұрын
SJ Simon had a parallel career as a top bridge player and writer. His 1948 classic Why you Lose at Bridge is still in print today (and still relevant I'm afraid!)
@mikesummers-smith40918 ай бұрын
@@iankemp1131 IMO the best book on the game ever written. It's one of the very few which deal with the partnership aspect (which Mr Smug understood to some extent and the Unlucky Expert not at all). _Cut for Partners_ is also worth a read - as is the out-of-print and appallingly proofread _Design for Bidding_
@iankemp11318 ай бұрын
@@mikesummers-smith4091 Yes, I would agree with you on all counts. I dip back into all those books periodically, especially after a bad result that reminds me of some of the wisdom in them, or if I've made a "Futile Willie" mistake. I managed to get hold of a second hand copy of DfB some years ago. Possibly the only book that really tries to explain why you make particular bids as well as which bids to make, and how it all fits into a system. Have often thought it would be good to have a more modern book along similar lines!
@mikesummers-smith40918 ай бұрын
@@iankemp1131 If you can find a copy, pick up _The Secrets of Winning Bridge_ by Jeff Rubens. It includes practical advice such as - in a pickup game, play your partner's concard. This has all sorts of advantages.
@dukeofaaghisle73248 ай бұрын
On behalf of any horses that might be watching this video, I would like to state that eating a bag of raw oatmeal is much more exciting than eating straw.
@proanimali8 ай бұрын
Thank you. This video is a shining star in the collection of linguistically funny videos. It certainly helped my rainy Sunday to brighten (or Brighton) up a bit.
@jimroberts36518 ай бұрын
The original Charing Cross was a short distance away at the nearest corner of what is now Trafalgar Square. The actual spot where the cross was built is now buried under a complicated traffic scheme.
@GiselleBel8 ай бұрын
Your videos often make me chuckle. You got two laughs-out-loud for the turning cross, and the oatmeal comments. Love your sense of humour, I swear it's what makes me keep coming back. Fascinating subject too, really enjoyed it!
@jumpingjeffflash99468 ай бұрын
American that enjoys these videos and I love visiting London, it's such a cool city, historical, has friendly people, the tube gets you anywhere as do the trains. You filmed from right in front of where I stay each go, The Citizen M at Tower HIll. I look forward to a return trip (and hopefully no rail strikes or drone incidents again, the latter causing me to be stuck there 3 extra days in 2018)
@lapiswake65838 ай бұрын
I've never heard the GCR/Chiltern terminus pronounced "whatever" before... An excellent video. More please!
@michaelvyse97288 ай бұрын
Re: the “Charing” in Charing Cross: Queen Eleanor, in whose memory the crosses were set up en route to her funeral (4:12) was known by King Edward I as «Mon cher Reine» (“My dear Queen”): hence Charing”, and the reason why it’s sometimes pronounced to rhyme with “airing”.
@b34m2708 ай бұрын
"my deer queen" means "ma chère reine"
@Peterwhy8 ай бұрын
@@b34m270 Would "my deer queen" be "ma biche reine" ?
@williamstringer65198 ай бұрын
Jago has one of the very best voices on KZbin. That together with the scenes of London's streets and railway stations makes his videos required viewing to this elderly ex-Londoner now living in sunny Queensland
@ash362308 ай бұрын
I heard King's Cross got its name because the King once tried to catch a train at the station, but in typical fashion it was delayed and so everyone said "Look. The King's Cross"
@LittleKitty228 ай бұрын
I have no doubt he was always cross... they are moody chaps. The current king takes after his ancestors.
@nigelcole19368 ай бұрын
I love the one named after the bear lol. and thanks for the Oyster card tip... very useful
@DavidRobinson19788 ай бұрын
Wonder if contactless works? 😂
@1258-Eckhart8 ай бұрын
Jago, the Dominican Order still very much exists and is not "defunct". There aren't many houses left in Britain, but the one in Oxford is fully functional and is even called "Blackfriars". For the record, "Whitefriars" are the Order of Carmelites, "Greyfriars" are Franciscans and Austin Friars are Augustinians, all still up and running. You once covered the Crutched Friars near Tower Hill - this order (a.k.a. the Crosiers) IS now defunct.
@highpath47768 ай бұрын
Are the Brown Friars very scared someone is coming for them?
@martinstent53398 ай бұрын
I was waiting for Vauxhall. I recently discovered that the Russian word for (railway) station is вокзал (vokzal) which is taken from either Vauxhall gardens or (more likely) the nearby Vauxhall station. Now there is a weird etymology, but a Russian one and not an English one.
@kgbgb36638 ай бұрын
Apparently the guy who built the first Russian railways took a trip on the LSW before starting, and asked his English host "What do you call _that?"_ pointing at the station they were passing through. He got his answer, and the name stuck.
@Otacatapetl7 ай бұрын
@@kgbgb3663 He was asking for the English for "station", but they misunderstood, and said "Vauxhall". It's now the de facto official Russian word for "station".
@JohnJohn-hd1pc8 ай бұрын
Re Paddington - you mentioned Peada. The reason i know about this King of the Mercians (655 AD), is due to spending most of my childhood in Padiham, Lancashire. His father, King Penda, had a nearby hill named after him (Pendle Hill) which later became famous for its witches. Hope that helps.
@DevilishScience8 ай бұрын
Are you sure about the origin of Pendle Hill? Isn't the 'pen' from the Celtic pen meaning hill, as in Pennines, Appenines?
@JohnJohn-hd1pc8 ай бұрын
@@DevilishScience Hi. No, I'm not sure, just what i was told as a child.
@karlosh92868 ай бұрын
I've seen my fair share of Bedlam at Liverpool Street station over the last 4 decades. Usually when something has gone wrong like signals, points or over head cables. At times like those I think it should be renamed back to Bedlam !
@gorkyshaw8 ай бұрын
7:10, thank you for the clarification with "not literally" at 7:17. For a moment there, I was a bit worried about the fate of the Blackfriars :D
@randomguy-tg7ok8 ай бұрын
That shot at 8:22 really got my brain whirring. 450125 wasn't one of the last ones repainted, if memory serves, and it's heading to Woking, which is a diagram that's been covered by 455s for as long as I can remember. So presumably that was shot on a Sunday at least a year ago...
@Rog54468 ай бұрын
Naming stations to avoid confusion with other stations reminds me of the ex-GWR station of Midgham, which is actually in the village of Woolhampton. The village of Midgham being about a mile away as the crow flies. GWR did not want passengers at Paddington bound for Wolverhampton getting on a Woolhampton train by mistake, hence they called Woolhampton Midgham instead.
@Julius_Hardware8 ай бұрын
Well the only problem with that story is... who would ever want to go to Wolverhampton? ;-)
@localboys74498 ай бұрын
@@Julius_Hardware😂😂😂
@hens0w8 ай бұрын
Waterloo has a problem with Weighbridge (on the edge of London) and Weymouth (about as far as you can get in one train from Waterloo) - both operating as termini On the basis of what happens in that case, I think its for the best.
@fussyboy20008 ай бұрын
I learned that from Lord of the Flies.
@Titan6048 ай бұрын
At Derby you can board trains for Newark Castle and Newcastle!
@johnholt8908 ай бұрын
Euston is actually a village in Suffolk mentioned in the Domesday Book. The Dukes of Grafton live there at Euston Hall hence the junior title of the son and heir Earl of Euston.
@stuartcoates12178 ай бұрын
21:35. London station names can cause problems for some. Some years ago, I was a rail replacement bus manager at Warrington Bank Quay, with our staff directing passengers to reach their destinations. Staff: “Where are you going please?” Foreign tourists: “Liverpool.” Staff: “We don’t have services to Liverpool. May I see your ticket?” The tickets showed their destination as Liverpool Street. They had been at Euston and no one had checked their tickets there or along the 200 mile journey. We helped them find some accommodation before their return to London the following day.
@highpath47768 ай бұрын
where was their starting station ?
@norbitonflyer56258 ай бұрын
Strange. There are trains from both Warrington stations to Liverpool.
@leylandlynxvlog6 ай бұрын
@@norbitonflyer5625 But they must not have been replaced by buses on those days.
@maestroazzey8 ай бұрын
I think we should hold a petition to rename Cannon Street (back) into Candlewright Street/Candlewick Street as it sounds so much better and gives the underappreciated station next to it a bit more rizz.
@u1zha8 ай бұрын
Candlebone
@leylandlynxvlog6 ай бұрын
I agree, Cannon Street sounds very boring somehow. Even though cannons aren't that boring, and candlewrights or wicks aren't that interesting. Just better sounding words.
@PavlosPapageorgiou8 ай бұрын
I do think of the station name when arriving somewhere. Of these the least obvious was Euston. Also I'd have guessed Charing Cross referred to an activity. Boarding a stagecoach perhaps.
@jon68158 ай бұрын
"...came online, as it were" - Nice one Jago!
@gs4258 ай бұрын
Jago...this is the BEST video you've ever done. The jokes are true Easter eggs...worth hunting for!!!
@weetjeweetje40548 ай бұрын
Thank you for this interesting video. However, I have to make 1 correction. The battle of Waterloo did not take place in Waterloo but in Braine-l'Alleud, which is about 3.5 km south of Waterloo. The Duke of Wellington had his headquarters in Waterloo. That is probably the reason why it is called the battle of Waterloo (or maybe because it is easier to pronounce than the battle of Braine-l'Alleud).
@sandy_knight8 ай бұрын
Sounds about right, IIRC they covered this on QI (that's why I searched the comments and found this answer at least) 😉
@kevinjohnbetts8 ай бұрын
The French call it _Mont Saint-Jean_ which is a farm or hamlet (depending on sources) just North of Wellington's position. The Prussians referred to it a _La Belle Alliance_ which was/is the inn South of Napoleon's position where Wellington and Blucher met as the battle concluded. Both probably make more sense than Waterloo or _Braine l'Allaud_ as neither of these are part of the battlefield. Now I feel like a Napoleonic nerd. Which, for my sins, I probably am. 😎
@leylandlynxvlog6 ай бұрын
The question is how do the French pronounce Waterloo?
@weetjeweetje40546 ай бұрын
@@leylandlynxvlog In almost the same way as the Flemish people do but with a more pronounced "W".
@englishciderlover73478 ай бұрын
To be exact, the old London Bridge is now in Lake Havasu City, Arizona. Lake Havasu is a reservoir on the Colorado River.
@araptorofnote59388 ай бұрын
The story is mostly a myth. It's true that the old bridge was offered 'for sale', but this was just the playful way that the contractors tasked with selling and disposing of the rubble used to attract a suitable tender. The bridge in Arizona was already built. It's owner won the tender, but only thin slices of the old bridge's weathered facing stones were shipped to Lake Havasu to be used as 'cladding' on his new bridge.
@brucewilliams87148 ай бұрын
Isn't it the case that the purchaser of the London Bridge to, take to America, thought he was buying the more striking Tower Bridge.
@6allmotivepowers3638 ай бұрын
Very interesting! I got to see five of the London terminus stations during my UK trip last year: St. Pancras, Victoria, King's Cross, Waterloo, and Paddington - they are my favorites in that order. For anyone following the timeline: 1) London Bridge - 1836; 2) Euston - 1837; 3) Paddington - 1838; 4) Fenchurch Street - 1841; 5) Waterloo - 1848; 6) King's Cross - 1852; 7) Victoria - 1860; 8) Charing Cross - 1864; 9) Moorgate - 1865; 10) Cannon Street - 1866; 11) St. Pancras - 1868; 12) Liverpool Street - 1874; 13) Blackfriars - 1886; 14) Marylebone - 1899.
@captainboing8 ай бұрын
Interesting fact: all distances to "London" are measured from Charing Cross
@PokhrajRoy.8 ай бұрын
I love a bit of etymology so thanks!
@paulketchupwitheverything7678 ай бұрын
The Battle of Waterloo took place in the Netherlands. The southern provinces of the Netherlands separated in 1830 to create Belgium. Terminally excellent video, nevertheless.
@markiangooley8 ай бұрын
Euston used to have a team of competitive mathematicians called the Euston Eulers…
@PokhrajRoy.8 ай бұрын
Jago eats a bag of raw oatmeal challenge.
@KevinTheCaravanner8 ай бұрын
It’s what we Jagoites do when watching these videos.
@philipwhiuk8 ай бұрын
Euston itself probably comes from "Efe's Tun" - Efe, being an old personal name and 'Tun' meaning farmstead. Euston is a village in Suffolk. It had a Hall, which was owned by the Dukes of Grafton, who then owned lots of land in North London.
@highpath47768 ай бұрын
The Grafton Arms is in that bit of South London that is north of the Thames - Victoria . I think a Mr Grafton owned it (Strutton Ground)
@SimonFairbourn8 ай бұрын
I’ve not seen another comment on the subject so here goes… It was my understanding that Charring as in the cross derived from the French for beloved Queen - chère reine - literally the one that was in transit.
@tantaf1238 ай бұрын
another video that catches my interest. With every video brings new secret facts about London and Trains, what’s not to love about this channel?
@MrScoot278 ай бұрын
I always thought that one of these termini was named after an Abba song, so this is genuinely informative.
@paulketchupwitheverything7678 ай бұрын
Knowing me, Knowing Euston?
@captaincatchy8 ай бұрын
Good stuff as usual. You could perhaps have mentioned that Euston is a place in Suffolk (not London, originally) - that's where the Fitzroys were earls of.
@orwellboy19588 ай бұрын
I'm not really interested in trains and I could count on the fingers of one hand how many times I've been on the Underground and I definitely have no interest in London, yet every time Jago posts a new video here I am.
@ferstuck378 ай бұрын
Thank you, Jago! 👌always appreciate the history you impart.
@neilbain87368 ай бұрын
No flies on your etymology! A pleasing video to end a large cup of coffee. I swear I only rent the cup...
@KevinTheCaravanner8 ай бұрын
Don’t forget the raw oats.
@neilbain87368 ай бұрын
@@KevinTheCaravanner oatymology?
@roboftherock8 ай бұрын
@@KevinTheCaravanner They call it muesli nowdays.
@andrewpinner31818 ай бұрын
Thanks Jago, an interesting field trip in every video ! Turning Cross ! 😂
@edwardoleyba30754 ай бұрын
My Mum used to look after Lord & Lady Euston’s children. Also used to look after their little dog, (a little Yorkshire Terrier), his name was Faulty. That should be Fawlty!
@adrianrutterford7628 ай бұрын
Fascinating video. Always improved by a happy “Cheerio” at the end.
@LewisCollard8 ай бұрын
A lovely watch & listen, as always. I love the Network SouthEast remnants you found at 3:40 and 8:07.
@tt-ew7rx8 ай бұрын
A very good way of making an enduring location name is to give a station a name and if the station endures and becomes a focal point a whole area will become named after that. King's Cross, Charing Cross, Victoria, Euston etc. Street names usually do not become area names without being boosted by having a station named after them...
@rupep24248 ай бұрын
And there's the terminus being built nearish (cuddly old) Paddington. Perhaps more of a (far-away) Clanger Junction than a (useful) Wombleview?
@birdbrain444512 күн бұрын
Aside: earlier today I wound up at King's Cross St. Pancras and my my. King's Cross is a fantastically robust and proud looking station for sure, and St. Pancras is actually even more magnificent in person. I always thought the name Charing Cross was directly related to the village of Charing in Kent, in some way (fitting, given the line Charing X is a terminus of.) I suppose they share the same etymology but, not directly. Also, I appreciate that you included Moorgate. I don't know why, aside from accuracy of course; I like rooting for the little guy perhaps? Great video!
@MarcDuffyTV8 ай бұрын
Another great video Jago! I laughed out loud a few times too!
@ACHowes8 ай бұрын
Hi Jago. I am working in the car park under Smithfield’s market (I believe a goods station was here previously? But on the spiral down under ground to the car park the walls appear to be protected with broad gauge bridge rails. There appears to be a wealth of railway history in this car park, all about to be erased from existence in the name of ‘regeneration’
@iankemp11318 ай бұрын
Tell Didcot Railway Centre, they would probably want to salvage them!
@Play_fare8 ай бұрын
London termini names are so unforgettable and steeped in history. Where I am, larger stations are usually just [place name] union or central or station. Not a lot of imagination. Some places actually owe their names to the post office as it expanded services into new territory and wanted uniqueness to make delivery easier. This fact has also kept around old place names long after they have been absorbed or amalgamated into other entities. In Ottawa, where I live, the post office says that I live in Gloucester, which hasn’t legally existed for almost 2 decades. The same goes for Nepean and Kanata, cities that are part of Ottawa but technically don’t exist. Toronto is has even more of this kind of thing because of expansions and amalgamations. Some of the older names for areas disappear over time as they become forgotten and landmarks disappear. London seems to retain more of its area names (albeit corrupted over time) and connections with early settlement history.
@maryapatterson8 ай бұрын
We had something similar just outside London, an area called Middlesex. Middlesex was an area long swallowed up, but we still wrote it on letters but that was about 20 years ago? Im sure a postie or some other expert will correct me😂.
@antonydennett59388 ай бұрын
Another bit of the history of London. Fascinating to learn.
There is in Cheshire UK 3 small villages one is called Peaover , Little Peaover and inferior Peaover. There are no train stations to them but if they did it some people might cause wee confusion to some people.
@PeterGaunt8 ай бұрын
'As interesting as eating a bag of raw oatmeal'. Brill: I shall use that one (if I can remember it).
@wilsonlaidlaw8 ай бұрын
Nice to see a cameo role for the Wine Library. Many happy lunches spent there, over 20 years ago.
@tubeyk71008 ай бұрын
Most entertaining, as always. Thank you. On Charing Cross, my personal mystery is solved. I’d heard that a queen once passed and it was name La Reine Croix as a result. You noted that memorials were placed where the queen had passed so we are off to a good start. Others have commented on “dear Queen” and “chère Reine”. This sounds a more plausible route to Charing compared to La Reine. Long live etymology.
@smogmonster18768 ай бұрын
Brilliant. Entertaining and educational. Thank you Jago. A lovely 9 minutes.
@roberthuron91608 ай бұрын
And now,for something completely different! There is in New York[named after the Duke of York],the leftovers from the Colony of New Amsterdam,the prior Dutch settlement! Most people will recognize some names,but there were more! So onto the foray! Place names- Brooklyn[Breukelen],Bushwick[Boswyck],Harlem,New Utrecht,Flatbush[Midwout],and many street names,and streetcar routes,and later Elevated and Subway stations! Also if you go up the Hudson,traveling on the old NYC,there are any number of Dutch names,add also on Long Island! Anyway,there is a persistence of history in the most unlikely of places! Thank you Jago,and may your linguistic hunt be fruitful! Thank you 😇 😊!
@michaelwest43258 ай бұрын
My preferred way to say it is "Mar-le-Bone" in a rather cheeky French fashion. Going from London proper to Marlow via Wycombe and nearly missing the last train always on the far track with the tube arriving so very near its departure had me needing a laugh or being quite cross!
@Batters568 ай бұрын
It’s interesting that these termini were by and large given the names of the areas they actually were in. Given that we’ve learned from your other videos that railway companies loved to claim they were nearer the most desirable places that they could claim to be serving. Even if it that was actually miles away! For example Cannon Street could easily have been City of London, for example.
@norbitonflyer56258 ай бұрын
Cannon Street is in the City of London, as are Blackfriars, City Thameslink, Fenchrch Street, Liverpool Street and Moorgate. But the only stations in the City of London called "City" were the terminus of the waterloo & City Line (now renamed Bank), and the newest one, City Thameslink, which was renamed from "St Pauls" for the same reason Blackfriars was.
@Sim0nTrains8 ай бұрын
Some of the puns were pretty epic and a lot of chuckles during the video, Also would love to see the Disused Termini video as well.
@RC5348 ай бұрын
Nice. I once visited lake Havasu. Which off-course one might also know from the reference in the movie Falling Down ;-). It's quite a contrast the old Londen bridge in the desert. They actually made a small diversion in the Colorado river thus creating an artificial island to give it a function 🙂.
@paulsengupta9718 ай бұрын
Yep, I've been there too.
@brettpalfrey46658 ай бұрын
I have never been to Marylebone, but if I ever do, I will make sure i have some raw oatmeal with me! thanks again, Jago!
@jeantremlett1748 ай бұрын
Marylebone is quite unique
@grahampaulkendrick78458 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this.
@terryough63308 ай бұрын
Good stuff! How about the same for major non-terminal stations (or rather the area where they are situated)? Stratford, Clapham Junc and Heathrow are nationally significant, but also Finsbury Park, Ealing Bwy, Richmond, Wimbledon & East Croydon - or whatever takes your fancy.
@royalhero46088 ай бұрын
As an unfortunate resident of Croydon, the name means Valley of the Crocus, there's also a link to lots of saffrons growing there in the past too. Which is about as far as you can get from accurately describing the murderous concrete jungle it's become!
@msg55078 ай бұрын
Pulling out the popcorn and subscribing for the Marylebone commentors munching their raw oatmeal...
@andrewberry61944 ай бұрын
Excellent stuff as always! Thanks.
@anthonylloyd60948 ай бұрын
Curiosity got the better of me at Moorgate last year and I had a stroll along the disused platforms.... Nice to see an original station name sign or two still in place.
@ktipuss8 ай бұрын
Note that all the Monopoly stations are former LNER stations. Victoria Street Station on the Newcastle-Maitland line (NSW) was also opened in 1857 just a few years later than London's Victoria. One of a handful of stations in NSW not named after the suburb in which they are located.
@vincenthuying987 ай бұрын
Dear Jago, love the etymological haberdashery of the London termini. Strictly fell apart at the historical explanation for the word ‘padder.’ Which our contemporary devices of inquisition so promptly mistreat into the ‘panda,’ hence ‘bear’ on your side, and ‘passer’(in Dutch) meaning compass. As the paddler of your etymological plight, I straddle towards the crosses of the iron road and found myself at the head shunt. Can’t be more terminal than that. All’s well, all’s well. Cheerio
@wtspman8 ай бұрын
Oooh! I have an idea for a video. How about all the rail termini mentioned in Agatha Christie novels?
@caw25sha8 ай бұрын
Or Sherlock Holmes.
@nigeldewallens11158 ай бұрын
I used to go to collage in the cut and there was a street called Hatfields near buy! A book we had, says it was called that, as people used to make hats in a field! That was great fun!
@Jimyjames738 ай бұрын
Very Interesting - Thanks for sharing Jago 😉🚂🚂🚂
@chrisperry79638 ай бұрын
Brilliant.
@MrGreatplum8 ай бұрын
Excellent video, Jago - some brilliant punnage as well!
@isashax8 ай бұрын
Fab video, thanks Jago!
@ZonkerRoberts8 ай бұрын
Great video. Sorry to hear about your insalubrious area. 🙂
@lynnlambert87458 ай бұрын
Loved this. Interesting, and witty
@iankemp11318 ай бұрын
Fun fact; Fenchurch Street was the London station that for 20+ years saw virtually no trains from its owning company the LNER. After the Blackwall service closed, it almost entirely served trains on the LMS line to Tilbury and Southend. The anomaly was removed in the early days of British Railways when this line was, very logically, transferred to the Eastern Region.
@hymek70178 ай бұрын
Excellent content. Interesting, informative and also laugh out loud funny. Many thanks.
@Perrygallo8 ай бұрын
Very interesting and humorous as ever!
@mattheweagles51238 ай бұрын
The remains of the literally dissolved Black Friars is what Guinness was originally made from
@dylanjohns89138 ай бұрын
You're the best Jago
@SamLyndonShow8 ай бұрын
I was actually hoping for years long arguments and legal battles between companies I'd never heard of about naming a station that was then changed 15 years later anyway