I have been working on my own bows for years, but I have learned something from each of your videos. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and experience.
@MrBhowren4 жыл бұрын
Hey, Thanks for setting up my new RX4 for me yesterday!!! And all the great instruction and service! I know I had a Lot of questions about a Lot of different things! Always trying to learn! Keep up the Awesome work!
@CJLiveFromTheOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You are consistently putting out really useful information and you deliver it really clearly. Thank you! This video covered a topic I've been wondering about for a few months as I experiment with new arrow set ups!
@TheEverLovingOutdoors Жыл бұрын
I have a short draw length. Everything says I should shoot 400 spine arrows but at 70#'s there way to much flex in the arrows so I just go with 340 and the fly great. Appreciate you taking the time to explain this stuff because Im just learning now how to build my arrows.
@avidwaterfowler75228 ай бұрын
I’m a 27.5” draw and I use the same arrow for hunting and target. My arrow cut length is 27” and my insert/outsert is about 5/8”. I’m pretty comfortable running a fixed broadheads, but I could see it being an issue for some. Good content.
@joshsinglefooter4 жыл бұрын
Man you think of everything. I always wanted to know this!
@BigT9622 жыл бұрын
This is a very helpful channel for me. Just got into archery and am trying to learn some things.
@matthewbearden23084 жыл бұрын
Good topic. Never seems to fail. Can’t talk about arrow length without touching on arrow spine.
@paulgroniger44944 жыл бұрын
Like you I cut a little longer for a hunting arrow @ 3/4" in front of the riser.
@dillonbutler60984 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the help man 🤙
@russelllieser42264 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your time. Great info.
@joelow60863 жыл бұрын
You're right about arrow length. This applies to the present day bows. However, I am still using my 1995 Hoyt Alfa Tech for hunting occasionally . It has a 3 inch overdraw and my draw length is 28 inches. A 25 to 27 inch arrow suits me fine and I have shot several wild boars within 75 feet distance. No problem at all. A shorter and lighter arrow fly faster.`Thanks for your review.
@dadtrap2 жыл бұрын
So on my hunting bow I cut my Easton Axis 1 inch over my draw length even though I use mechanicals. It doesn’t effect spine weight. On my target bow I cut my Pierce 400 arrows 1/2 inch past draw length.
@chenoabryan84584 жыл бұрын
We couldn't get to The Bow Rack this year from LC, OR but we will be there next July....Thank you for getting a family a 4 shooting together as a team:) y'all ROCK
@ratherbeehunting4 жыл бұрын
I've been shooting for over 12 years now (self taught) and can't believe how much I've learned and how much I need to work on from your videos. Keep them coming! Also I'm having trouble finding your anchor point video? Thanks alot!
@strongmakeit62442 жыл бұрын
Ok here is one for you Misson Switch bow 65 pounds draw is 28 1/2 what would be a good arrow cut for hunting arrow ? 29 1/2 are ?
@InsideOutPrecision2 жыл бұрын
Yeah 29 would be good
@InsideOutPrecision2 жыл бұрын
In a 340 spine
@twc67713 жыл бұрын
Yall put out some very good information.
@kdsberman4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Question though, as long as my arrow is somewhere past my arrow shelf without being TOO far past it, will it matter too much if its maybe 1/4-1/2" one way or the other? Thanks!
@mrwildman26072 жыл бұрын
Better to have it a litte to long than short imo. Better for consistensy to get the draw to your correct anchor point. Can also shorten the arrow if you want.
@Buckfever7184 жыл бұрын
My son's bow Bear cruzer g2 shows 26" on the cam. At full draw measures 24 1/2" to the biscuit. Draw weight is 42lb . What size and length arrows?
@cpreit88624 жыл бұрын
I would run 26 1/2" cut with a 450 ish range arrow the lower the number the stiffer the arrow. But talk to a bow tech when you buy your arrows
@Buckfever7184 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir
@DarxusC4 жыл бұрын
Why don't shelfs extend out over your fingers to keep them out of the way of broadheads?
@willhunter23874 жыл бұрын
I have a draw length of 28" and when I first got arrows the shop cut mine to 29.5". They are still in the same spine range but is my only disadvantage really only speed if it is 1" longer than where it should be?
@mr.skeptical30714 жыл бұрын
I'm a 28" too. My arrows are 27" 340's
@GTX104 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a 32inch draw length, shooting a 55lb DW. What arrow do you recommend I use for hunting deer? Probably going to use a 100gr mechanical Broadhead.
@jobykelly46094 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks! Can I buy a bow from you and get it shipped. Live in Mississippi?
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately no, we can't ship new bows due to dealer protection rules
@woodyousley27124 жыл бұрын
What inserts are you using on the 4mm Injexions?
@zhickman3384 жыл бұрын
Looks like Iron Will collars, so probably Easton Deep 6 HIT
@trevormacable4 жыл бұрын
@@zhickman338 iron will have inserts as well
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
Theyre made by Ethics archery. The only ones easton makes that won't bend or break are the titanium ones and they're $80/dozen
@trevorfrandsen79494 жыл бұрын
Does an arrows spine affect the durability, for instance hitting a tree. Just wondering if the stiffness makes it more susceptible to breaking?
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
No it does not
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
Any arrow that hits a tree is usually toast
@pathfinder5094 жыл бұрын
I've heard people say measure the arrow from the end of the nock, to the cut, as well as saying the arrow length is the actual arrow, no nock, no tip. Did I miss your interpretation of arrow length? You talked about what you feel is too short, what about too long? Also a visual of the two different arrow options on your riser would be nice.
@tyronesmith3812 Жыл бұрын
What's the cheapest way to cut arrows
@jimbob7332 Жыл бұрын
So if im at a 29 inch draw length and I use a half out insert can I cut to 29 and the insert makes up that half inch?
@tford874 жыл бұрын
When you were gradually cutting down your target arrow to stiffen it, you said you would pull the points, cut, shoot and repeat until satisfied. Did you have to glue the points each time or was the insert and point in without glue until you reached final length ?
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
I use the low temp hot melt so I can easily pull the points and re glue them after cutting them down.
@wesfletch78263 жыл бұрын
Hey I just started hunting with a bow went with bloodsport judgement arrow I'm at 55# 27 draw was Gunna use 38 grain brass incerts 100 grain broad head should I use 350 - 400 spine arrow
@InsideOutPrecision3 жыл бұрын
Yeah id go with the 350 with those spec. Should shoot really well
@Kyrodan0224 жыл бұрын
29" draw..cut arrows with knock or without at 29 3/4?
@cHoLoM3oW4 жыл бұрын
Same, throwing message in here to wait for reply, kinda missed that small point there lol
@feyrband3 жыл бұрын
Without the nock. That is more or less what he suggests here, but if you want to check you can take an old arrow you already have and pull back in front of mirror or ideally have someone help you to see how far past the shelf your arrow is, and then mark/note where you want it and measure from there, carbon to carbon. Some people will take it clear back to just in front of their rest just make sure any outsert isn't sitting on the rest.
@miragexl0074 жыл бұрын
Question.....starting back with compound after a year off and a crossbow....shooting 30 inch, 62/64 lbs with fingers/tab (thought about release but like the feel of the string still) always used 4 inch veins....still recommended/good? And if so....I can't seem to find them anywhere (pre-made. I find factory glue superior in the past). Any input guys? thanks
@WalkAboutWithShia2 жыл бұрын
If you shot an arrow of one length and another longer will it affect the housing or sights
@InsideOutPrecision2 жыл бұрын
Not at close range, but at distance yes. Even if the arrows are the same spine, the shorter one will be stiffer and lighter causing it to react differently off the rest
@GarrettOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2016 Hoyt Powermax that I use for hunting. I Want to switch to fixed blades… my draw length is 29.5 inches and I want the arrow to be about .5 inches out in front of the riser. The insert on the arrow I am ordering will add 15/16 of an inch. Does that mean I should order 29” arrows?
@InsideOutPrecision2 жыл бұрын
Correct!
@MattMacKo3 жыл бұрын
I just had some arrows cut to 28.5. My arrows are 28 3/8 not counting the knock. They're are apparently cut to center of knock. So, I think im now 1/4in short. Is this a big deal?
@slobodandan38374 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial,I just got my new RX4 turbo with 30'' DL and almost accepted suggestion to leave the arrows on full 32" length-300s fmj,that would be fail,I will shot G5 montec,so question once again:It should be OK if I leave me on 30,5" or 30" even,what you suggest guys?Thanks to all in advance!
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
Cut em at 30.5
@chrisMc19724 жыл бұрын
What brand are you using for target arrows,spine and what poundage?
@seannehmeh49364 жыл бұрын
Why do you chose to add the insert to your hunting arrow? What are the benefits to that? I have the same draw length and was curious.
@matthewbearden2514 жыл бұрын
Do you change the cut length if you are installing an out-cert or half-cert that would extend the total length of the arrow? I.E. arrow normally 29.75 inches/ 29.25 inch arrow with half/out-cert that adds 0.5 - 0.75 in.?
@widanelagedemel45893 жыл бұрын
Hi , I'm Arosh , my bow is trx 38, bow is 52 pounds , my draw length is 27.5. please let me know what spin can I use for my arrows, and what length can I cut my arrows
@InsideOutPrecision3 жыл бұрын
400 spine cut to 27.5"
@widanelagedemel45893 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision thanks for the quick reply!! I use Easton indoors 23 diameter 2315 aluminium. My draw length is (68.898÷2.5= 27.55) .Actually now I'm shooting with 32 inch arrow (aluminium) with 210 point ....what is your advice. thanks!
@InsideOutPrecision3 жыл бұрын
@@widanelagedemel4589 that's going to be really weak. Cut it like 28 and run 150 up front
@widanelagedemel45893 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision thank you so much brother!!
@malinoistraining4 жыл бұрын
Great video and thanks for useful information. Quick question.my bow is 35lbs recurve and trying to get new arrow so I got Easton spine chart indicated 500 spine 29inch arrow. So I purchased Easton traditional 500 spine and cut to 29inch with 100 grain tip.but honestly I'm not happy with that fly arrow. So should I switch to 600 spine?
@D-money173 жыл бұрын
I have a 31.5” draw and I plan on going from 70 to 75 pounds of draw weight. What arrow length and spine should I be shooting?
@InsideOutPrecision3 жыл бұрын
Id shoot a 250 spine cut to 31" with 150-160 grains up front
@MarkPicc863 жыл бұрын
Hi man, great videos. Question: ¿besides spine charts, How do you understand that the Spine is too weak? And can you actually be over-spined? isn’t it safer to just be a bit over?
@chuck.schildhauer724 жыл бұрын
I have a 29 inch draw and shoot between 55 and 58 lbs . Currently shooting 400 spine,but experimenting with 340 spine. Total arrow weight is 500 gr. Where do you think I should start with arrow lenght.
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
400s should be fine cut to like 28-28.5". 500 grains is really heavy for a 340 or 400 spine though...are you running lots of point weight??
@chuck.schildhauer724 жыл бұрын
leng I HAVe a point weight of 150
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
@@chuck.schildhauer72 yeah a 400 with that much point weight is probably a little weak. I think 340s would group better for you.
@jadem48932 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision Hey bub just a quick question? I'm shooting a Hoyt 33 Ventum pro at 65lb at 28.5" DL. I'll be shooting a G5 Montec 125gr fixed broad heads. Should I get the arrows cut at 29"? Also are 300 spline ok? Or can I get way with 350? Appreciate any info. Thanks so much for all your content. You rock ✊ Keep doing what you do. Love it :)
@hootiesfilms64462 жыл бұрын
My arrows were long rnough to not get my hand in the way to begin with, but I recently shortened my draw length by an inch so now they're a solid 1.5 inches out in front of my hand and I really don't want to get new arrows. Any issue with them being too long? I think I still have the correct spine
@InsideOutPrecision2 жыл бұрын
No they’ll be fine.
@tjblackforest694 жыл бұрын
I really like the way you explain things. I shoot my Hoyt vantage with bare fingers. Any differences in spine recommended then? Your opinion?
@MickyMouseLimited4 жыл бұрын
In your opinion is going with 2 inches over the draw length too much ?
@Luccimatic11 ай бұрын
I have a 33 inch draw length. I am having the hardest time finding a seller that even offers arrow shafts over 32 inches.
@InsideOutPrecision11 ай бұрын
The black eagle XImpacts in the 200 spine are 33 I believe
@itsdierszn67174 жыл бұрын
hey this is gonna be a LONG and interesting question but i hope you can get to me i bought my first bow last summer as a beginner bow and have always intended on upgrading eventually but i figured i’d still get a year or 2 more out of it. from the beginning i’ve had problems with my anchor points and my peep was always a little too high and i just dealt with it and ended up killing a deer last year with it but it was not comfortable enough for me to keep it like that. so over the last couple weeks i’ve been upgrading everything on the bow from strings to stabilizers and my buddy who was a former tech at a bow shop help me set it up. and once we started getting to the nose button and peep sight we kept having to bring it down and down and down and down so far down that my spot hogg fast eddie double pin could never go down enough to even reach 50 yards without getting contact with my arrow. i have a Diamond Edge SB-1 and it caps out at 30” draw length and we ended up figuring out my draw length is closer to 31”. do you think that’s the main reason i am having such a problem with my peep sight? because the draw is too short? or is there any other possible reason i’m finding my view of the sight to be so low once i’m anchored in? and since i think i’ll have to get a 31” bow are there any specific bows you recommend for a 31” draw length? i would REALLY appreciate a reply but this question was long so i hope you were able to stick with it and hope i explained clearly 😂
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
There could be a lot of reasons, but yes, if your draw length is too short you will have to duck/scrunch to get in your peep. Get your draw length dialed first then set your peep when you're in a comfortable anchor
@greenhoodedvigilante4583 жыл бұрын
1" pass the riser, easy equation. Spacially for trad. Shooting arrow off the shelf, closer to hand than compound which has a rest, need longer arrow.
@glennprince99834 жыл бұрын
On your target bow, how many pounds you pulling
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
60
@tweety2bird14 жыл бұрын
Where do I find the spine chart?
@cpreit88624 жыл бұрын
I got 28" draw and I cut my arrows to 28 1/2 puts me eight in front of riser
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
Thats the idea...
@KowboyUSA3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the weight of the point also affect shaft flex?
@InsideOutPrecision3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@JoshSmith-md8cd4 жыл бұрын
I’m a 27 inch draw I shoot 27 inch arrow... I shoot rage ... works for me...
@GarretTowneAMS4 жыл бұрын
What tools are you using to cut the shafts?
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
An arrow saw
@garrettowne4 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision Not a chainsaw... ok. :) Is there a model that you like?
@TheDiamonddust14 жыл бұрын
I don't worry about cutting my GoldTip arrows I use the full shaft my draw length is 32 inch's so it just saves time .
@skyleroutdoors84244 жыл бұрын
I got my arrows cut to 24 inches but that is also my draw length and I don’t know what to do because I am a kid and do not have the money to get more
@InsideOutPrecision4 жыл бұрын
They'll be okay!!
@skyleroutdoors84244 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision can I shoot them?
@jonathanhatfield59622 жыл бұрын
Are you the one on the untamed zack
@InsideOutPrecision2 жыл бұрын
No never heard of that
@wendellhendrix47254 жыл бұрын
My draw length is 28 and I’m shooting the bone collector 29” arrow and my bow is at 70lbs is that to long or do I need shorter arrows and my bow is shooting at 300 ft per second thanks for the video and info and by the way I shoot rage 100 grain and a qad ultra rest drop away rest
@mr.skeptical30714 жыл бұрын
You can go 27-28" it'll stiffen you up sum too
@stevehuffman74533 жыл бұрын
How long should your arrow be? 2 inches longer than your draw length so you can't/won't cut yourself when drawing a broadhead. is my guess. That would also eliminate any excess arrow length. (Though I do remember years ago they had over-draw shelves so you could use a shorter than your draw length arrow with a broadhead without injuring yourself.)
@bpdp3793 жыл бұрын
Is there a disadvantage to a longer arrow? I can’t find why it seems most are trying to get a short arrow.
@GregVasquez7774 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks!!
@ken2443 жыл бұрын
very important info specially for a noob like me Thanks
@geminidream43474 жыл бұрын
I love how you give safety tips. I never would of thought about losing a finger to an arrow as I am really new to archery. I have not even got my bow setup due to the lockdown. So thank you so very much for these in your videos. I did hear of shooting yourself in the hand with an arrow and I almost sent my bow back because of this. Only when I saw a video on this did I realise it was because of a blatant safety issue that the person ignored. It's things like this that scare people so they don't even try so now I have seen people wearing chest guards, is this another shoot yourself case? If so, could you please address this issue for me to know again, if archery is the thing for me. Thank you.
@rockymummert76584 жыл бұрын
As long as you take care of your equipment you'll be A+ safe. I'd say most injuries come from arrows that are cheap/overused, or a string breaking or tearing
@geminidream43474 жыл бұрын
@@rockymummert7658 Thank you for helping me with this concern. It does help me to get over my fear hearing from experienced archers that have probably encountered every experience there is that can happen. Or even seen it happen, as I did on that video.
@rockymummert76584 жыл бұрын
@@geminidream4347 anytime, always need more people to sling some arrows. I try so hard to find people around who are into it and it's hard.. but always remember never dry fire your bow. if you do by mistake check it 110%. Also when beginning I suggest an arm brace people do tend to snap there forearm when beginning dont let it scare ya. I was on a budget when I was young so I've used socks already
@ngnmech4 жыл бұрын
Keep your fingers below the shelf on the bow and you have almost no risk of injury. Been shooting 40 years and went through the overdraw craze back in the 80-90's . Don't worry about a broadhead extending into the shelf area because you are still well protected, The overdraw bows would put the broadhead in the area of your wrist. I have a 28 1/2 in draw length shooting 27 inch arrows but 26 still stops about 1/2 inch in front of my rest.
@DarxusC4 жыл бұрын
Chest guards are for keeping your shirt / boob out of the line of the string. Don't worry about it.
@colinsymonds904811 ай бұрын
Ideally you should move the rest so that the front node of the arrow, at full draw, is sitting on the rest.
@InsideOutPrecision11 ай бұрын
For target archery, yes.
@colinsymonds904811 ай бұрын
Sorry, I should have mentioned that I'm from the UK, so we only do target and 3D/Field archery here. Bow hunting is illegal in the UK and much of Europe, so we have no use for broadhead arrows.@@InsideOutPrecision
@52Pablo4 жыл бұрын
Perfect tutorial as I'm just starting to make my own arrows
@Alan_Edwards3 жыл бұрын
Generally speaking, if the target arrow configuration I am looking at puts me right between a 340 or 400 spine, which way is better; an arrow slightly stiff or one a tad weak? Great video btw.
@manuelchaidez15613 жыл бұрын
Go with the heavier spined arrow.
@davidhall88744 жыл бұрын
For someone wanting to know what length of arrow, chances are, they don't know many of the terms nor any of the model names. I got a recurve bow for Christmas. The last time I shot was 1975. You told me nothing which would help.
@livingadreamlife14284 жыл бұрын
You’re like a first grade student that can’t read or write that mistakingly walked into a 5th grade class. Yet, you and your parents blame the teacher because you didn’t learn anything that day.
@jayytee80623 жыл бұрын
@@livingadreamlife1428 Hahaha that makes so much sense.
@dougbarabe7861 Жыл бұрын
Mathews should make a bow ,,, just like the v3x 33 with the lower poundege ,,, 45 -55,,, ,,, why did they shorten up the Image ,, ATA ,,, or are they waiting tell next year to do it ?? A perfect bow would be a v3x 34 with an " 34 ATA" ,, and a draw # of 45-55 ,,,, I would buy one tomorrow ,,,
@InsideOutPrecision Жыл бұрын
Just put the 60# mods on a V3X 33 and take one turn out of the limbs and it’s at 55#…
@shadyp-zv3uf4 жыл бұрын
I've got my bow set at 30 inch draw but my 29 inch 350 spine arrows stick out almost an inch past my riser shelf any reasons why
@CheetahBigKitty4 жыл бұрын
Remeasure both.
@shadyp-zv3uf4 жыл бұрын
The draw was on 29 1/2
@Mountaineer5062 жыл бұрын
I have no clue why you’d have a practice bow and a hunting bow that are (clearly) entirely different set ups and Entirely different shafts. Why? This makes no sense to me at all. I was tracking with this video until that came up and nothing else made sense.
@InsideOutPrecision2 жыл бұрын
It’s not a practice bow and a hunting bow. I was talking about a target bow, set up for competition. Totally different than a hunting set up
@Mountaineer5062 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision ohhhhh that makes way more sense. I need sleep haha long day
@jimbob7332 Жыл бұрын
Oh yea 29 inch draw length and 60 pound pull.
@mr.skeptical30714 жыл бұрын
One inch shorter than draw!!!!
@GovnaBuckingham4 жыл бұрын
what
@mr.skeptical30713 жыл бұрын
I shoot 28" with a 27" arrow. Takes it back just before my rest
@RKLIFE173 ай бұрын
Baker mayfield is that you?
@jimmyraybeagle58153 жыл бұрын
This guy is michael waddels lost brother
@InsideOutPrecision3 жыл бұрын
Lol you aren't the first to tell me that!
@jimmyraybeagle58153 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOutPrecision hehe
@NastyN8thegreat26 ай бұрын
It should hang an inch over your rest hope that saves you a bunch of time watching this 😂
@donmcdowell1314 жыл бұрын
I saw his mouth move but NO good info was delivered.