How Lucas Got Into Long Range Shooting and Why

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@ImmaSaveUFromMe
@ImmaSaveUFromMe 6 ай бұрын
The infringement isnt removing the ability to buy, it is preventing you from ever having the cash to buy. Imagine what you could get with 40% of your income (taxes) back.
@f308gtb1977
@f308gtb1977 6 ай бұрын
Great point
@Porkchopexpress391
@Porkchopexpress391 6 ай бұрын
Amen!!!!
@xxxlonewolf49
@xxxlonewolf49 6 ай бұрын
EVERYTHING IS AN INFRINGEMENT
@McGloin349
@McGloin349 6 ай бұрын
@@xxxlonewolf49Your comment is an infringement on my natural right to not read BS.
@McGloin349
@McGloin349 6 ай бұрын
Lucas doesn’t seem to be infringed in that regard. Don’t blame your lack of funds on the government. Maybe if you stopped drinking Starbucks and wasting your money on the latest iPhone, you could afford a decent rifle. #bootstraps
@user-cm6tj2he4b
@user-cm6tj2he4b 6 ай бұрын
Admitting that you don't know everything, and you're willing to learn, is a sign of intelligence. Greatings from across the pond.
@dammain1068
@dammain1068 6 ай бұрын
Some basics in case a kestrel isn’t available: Higher temp equals less dense air and a faster velocity Higher elevation equals less pressure and a faster velocity Humidity matters least of all. Shooting in a high desert environment (hot, low humidity, in the mountains) has my rounds going way faster than they would at sea level on a cold coast.
@Fadaar
@Fadaar 6 ай бұрын
Yep. Hell, baseball alone can teach you that with all the moonshots you get in Denver vs east coast ball parks.
@kenchang619
@kenchang619 6 ай бұрын
***Higher humidity equals less dense air and a higher velocity More water in the air = more space between air molecules = less dense air. But, yes, you can pretty much set humidity to 50 and ignore it for most shooting scenarios.
@dammain1068
@dammain1068 6 ай бұрын
@@kenchang619 thanks. I’ll edit the comment. I couldn’t remember exactly how it worked.
@paultoth7853
@paultoth7853 5 ай бұрын
I think about it in terms like I was jetting a two stroke dirt bike.
@trentmckenzie343
@trentmckenzie343 5 ай бұрын
@@kenchang619 That is not accurate. The higher the humidity, the denser the air. “Air” is a mixture of molecules, mostly nitrogen. Water vapor is denser than all the other gases present in atmospheric air, so by all logic more water in the air = more air.
@PA_LF
@PA_LF 6 ай бұрын
I love how Lucas throws around “nerd” like he isn’t one of them
@zeke2095
@zeke2095 6 ай бұрын
Be a nerd but not a dork
@FXIIBeaver
@FXIIBeaver 6 ай бұрын
That is the joke.
@davidreisig9618
@davidreisig9618 6 ай бұрын
😂 nerds for the win
@ShastaBean
@ShastaBean 6 ай бұрын
especially when he comes to realize that CBTO and the amount of bullet-jump is a thing - - and how deep factory ammo is seated; and what that means for precision. There's a reason precision shooters hand load. They have tuned their seating depth to some number like .012" off the lands. Whereas that factory ammo he's settling on could be .110 - .190" (in his chamber)...within a single box varying by 80 thou or more. And a high S.D. is going to be "good luck, nerd" when you are talking about a 2.5 foot difference in bullet drop at 1000 yards - if your box of ammo is giving you an ES of in high double-digits. Regardless of how much money he's sunk into all of that other gear. I predict he'll be turning towards hand-load development, sooner or later. Probably sooner.
@jeremythomas8889
@jeremythomas8889 6 ай бұрын
There’s also quite a few very accomplished shooters in the competition realm, for instance Eric Cortina who if I’m not mistaken doesn’t believe in chasing the lands. Would really depend on an individuals obsession for perfection and what level of the spectrum they’re on 😂
@Jethro3898
@Jethro3898 6 ай бұрын
Getting training from Bryan was the best foundation you could have ever started with. So many “personalities” in the precision rifle world. Bryan is a phenomenal teacher and an even better person. I have the utmost respect for him and was fortunate enough to take an entry to precision rifle class with him several years ago in FL. One day I hope to get out to Hat Creek to do some high angle and crazy wind stuff. Glad to see T.Rex getting into the precision rifle space……to me that’s where the fun has always been.
@Steven-js8yk
@Steven-js8yk 6 ай бұрын
Lucas, long range shooting is the most demanding shooting discipline and skill set there is. Even with the advantages offered by all of the high tech equipment that is available this skill demands countless hours of range time sending literally 10's of thousands of rounds downrange for years before it is truly etched into your soul. You can spend a lifetime sharpening your skills and still continue to learn each time you send a round downrange. There is no substitute for knowing that if you can see it, you can hit it.
@viper2165
@viper2165 5 ай бұрын
was just out at my second ever long range competition here in Montana and i was in a group with some experience dudes and our crazy wind and constant wind changes was even challenging them and their shots.
@rushthezeppelin
@rushthezeppelin 5 ай бұрын
Good comment. It's honestly making me think about selling my more budget long range setup. I love to shoot it but honestly haven't in 6+ years. I'd probably be more of a liability with it in wrol. There is the thought of having it and giving it to someone with experience but they would probably already have a good setup if they are experienced. Probably better off just sticking to pistol and cqb rifle stuff.
@farastray1
@farastray1 5 ай бұрын
It’s all relative.. anybody can learn their dope and get hits at 500m with a decent 5.56 and optic… doesn’t take some mythical effort.
@viper2165
@viper2165 5 ай бұрын
@@farastray1 i watched guys with a lot of experience miss some 500 yard shots with much larger rounds due to the crazy wind we get here in Montana. dont act like its super easy at all times.
@aleksanderenoksen1325
@aleksanderenoksen1325 5 ай бұрын
If you kan shoot 1 moa group at 100 metres you are ready for long range. No magic required. If you are seroed at 100 metres you will hit at your first shot at a 1000 metres, as long as your data and windcall is correct. I rapeat, is you can shoot 1 moa or better at 100 it is good enough. I won my first long range match with two shots taken at 500 metres.
@RustyEast
@RustyEast 6 ай бұрын
I appreciate your willingness to speak the facts about the situation our country has found itself in. 🍻
@KevinWood44
@KevinWood44 5 ай бұрын
replied by mistake
@dewineon101
@dewineon101 5 ай бұрын
the speaking is very simple: ''GAY''
@RustyEast
@RustyEast 5 ай бұрын
@@KevinWood44 is that directed to me?
@RustyEast
@RustyEast 5 ай бұрын
@@dewineon101 are you cumin out
@ryanknoup6288
@ryanknoup6288 5 ай бұрын
@@dewineon101as in, it is a gay situation we’re in. You are correct. It is SO gay.
@brockedandloaded6034
@brockedandloaded6034 6 ай бұрын
Autistic reloader here. Lucas, keep going. Youre sticking a toe into the long range precision world, and you may not see the value yet in reloading, but keep going. You will. Your standards arent high enough yet. But keep going. Love watching the learning
@d.r.sandbo1570
@d.r.sandbo1570 5 ай бұрын
Truth, Lucas you will find a quality rig with quality reloads is where you will end up. Keep up the great content.
@SpecOpsGear
@SpecOpsGear 5 ай бұрын
You really do need to hand load to get where you wanna go with precision shooting.
@whiterabit09
@whiterabit09 5 ай бұрын
Match ammo will do for popping watermelons.
@zulu_delta09
@zulu_delta09 5 ай бұрын
He still doesn't know what he doesn't know. It is great to see the change happening. Knowing his type of obsessive compulsive personality in how he does things, I'd bank on seeing him start handloading and probably some content within the next 5 years. The frustration alone of constantly dealing with lot number variation and wandering poi will get him there as it did most of us.
@brockedandloaded6034
@brockedandloaded6034 5 ай бұрын
@zulu_delta09 totally agree. He's not a "half-assed" kinda guy, but right now doesn't know enough to realize how important it is. His money will help offset getting into it, because he can buy the best ammo and a ton of it from one lot at a time, which will help, but in the end if his goals are high enough, he will reload.
@T20-c8f
@T20-c8f 6 ай бұрын
Not going to lie Lucas, I am so happy to see the NX8 2.5-20 get love from you. Long story longer, I built my dream AR build over the last 7 years. If I had the money at once ida got an LMT MARS but I don’t have that kind of money being the bread winner for a family of three. I have to save and be patient. So it’s an aero lower. My dream however was a do anything 14.5” SPR build of premium parts (if money were no object if you will). Last year I got a bonus at a job I was working at and it was finally time to spend coin on an optic. I was torn between a Vcog, mark 5 2.5-10 or 3.5-18, or an NXS 2.5-10. Vcog lost because I learned about 2x per 100 meters, nxs lost because the 24 and 34mm are discontinued, and I don’t want 42mm or second focal plane. The leupold lost because I couldn’t justify 500 extra dollars for illumination. So I found an NX8 2.5-20 mil-c FFP demo model for 1800 which was just within my budget along with a Badger 1.54 condition one mount. I got the scope and loved it! But then I kept reading negative ass reviews about eye box and sensitive parallax. I tried finding KZbin reviews and Cdoes was the only creator I could find doing in-depth review on it and he had wonderful remarks to say. So I love my scope a ton but I’ve always had that small buyers remorse feeling thinking maybe something else would have been “better” but because I don’t buy expensive scopes often I just don’t know what I don’t know. Seeing your channel rep the scope has definitely made me feel better about it despite the 30mm tube, parallax, and eye box being tight. I wanted an end all be all scope i could place on various builds in the future, something as versatile as possible and I think I made a good decision seeing you use it on bolt guns not just ARs in 556. Thanks big dog!
@grantshepherd4387
@grantshepherd4387 6 ай бұрын
I have a nx8 2.5-20 on a 16” SPR. Absolutely amazing scope. Love everything about it. Probably bit overkill considering my 308 for hunting has a 3-15 vortex viper on it 😅
@KretinD
@KretinD 6 ай бұрын
Mpvos on sub 16" barrels are a vibe
@lasvegashelipilot
@lasvegashelipilot 6 ай бұрын
One of the fastest ways to accelerate your knowledge when it comes to precision shooting (and gear selection) is to start shooting competition: PRS for bolt guns or Quantified Performance or similar for gas guns. Competitors are always really eager to help new shooters and you'll get your hands on just about every chassis, scope, bipod etc all in one place. And then when you start buying your own gear, shooting a match with it will reveal strengths/weaknesses very quickly. Anyway, great video Lucas. Happy you are finally going down the precision shooting rabbit hole.
@GummeeH3
@GummeeH3 6 ай бұрын
and if you don't want to spend tons of $ on ammo, there's always 22 PRS. I won't say 22LR rifles are less $ cause the rimfire PRS rabbit hole goes as deep as centerfire PRS.
@hueco5002
@hueco5002 6 ай бұрын
No joke. At some point, you send your rifle off to get lot tested and start buying .22lr ammo in thousand dollar increments. But yea…chose NRL because it’s…cheaper…yea…😂
@crownember560
@crownember560 6 ай бұрын
Would love to do this but my area being alberta canada only has 2 prs matches once a year from what i can find and i have allot of trouble timing it with my work.
@BDKR
@BDKR 5 ай бұрын
@@crownember560 Come to the states! At the rate Biden is letting in folks, you should be fine.
@crownember560
@crownember560 5 ай бұрын
@BDKR would love to but i couldn't afford it.
@trentgriswold
@trentgriswold 5 ай бұрын
As mentioned in a couple of my videos. One of the reasons I've made both long range and precision shooting my life work is, if you look at it as a fighting style, it's arguable the most proficient gun fighting discipline. In many real world combat scenarios, creating distance between you and your opponent is key. Precision shooting allows you to use that distance but also be devastating from such distance with obvious other advantages. Great content here and awesome to see you in this discipline!
@spyplane8
@spyplane8 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Lucas! One of the most informative videos regarding stepping into precision shooting on the internet. Most other videos completely skip the fact that most people have no idea where to get started.
@TorresTactical
@TorresTactical 6 ай бұрын
Straight badass! I love everything TREX ARMS stands for!
@handled99
@handled99 4 ай бұрын
D rider
@BeeHiverson
@BeeHiverson 4 ай бұрын
@@handled99 pecker checker
@johnkeisterelquattro2553
@johnkeisterelquattro2553 4 ай бұрын
Just don’t make any jokes. And oh yeah…. DON’T BE POOR!!!!
@TheVvolfgang
@TheVvolfgang 6 ай бұрын
Lucas, idk if you're able to, but prairie dogs are great for precision shooting training. They live in windy locations, with longer ranges which are unknown, it helps farmers/ranchers to remove them, lots of fun, good to learn communication with your spotters, etc. Very very useful.
@Dyneemadrone
@Dyneemadrone 6 ай бұрын
We have ground squirrels- excellent practice!
@Marisa_enjoyer
@Marisa_enjoyer 5 ай бұрын
Not cool
@TheVvolfgang
@TheVvolfgang 5 ай бұрын
@@Marisa_enjoyer what? Did you respond to the wrong person?
@Marisa_enjoyer
@Marisa_enjoyer 5 ай бұрын
@@TheVvolfgang Absolutely not, you sicko.
@chrisresnikoff1741
@chrisresnikoff1741 5 ай бұрын
​@@Marisa_enjoyercry about it, weeb
@kevspss
@kevspss 6 ай бұрын
Back in the 90’s I collected the parts to make a M40A1 including the Unertl optic and mount. I called George Gardner of G A precision to build it. After I gave him my idea, he said you know I can build you a better rifle. Milspec isn’t always a good thing.lol
@f308gtb1977
@f308gtb1977 6 ай бұрын
I like clones and am quite jealous of your glass. I have a complete M40A1 I had built in the 00’s, except for no Unertl.😭😭😭 And yes there are way better options. It’s just cool.
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz 5 ай бұрын
M40s arent bought, they're built by Marine Corp gunsmiths. Its hard to get better, mechanically, than a blueprinted receiver with a clip slot bedded into a fiberglass stock.
@kevspss
@kevspss 5 ай бұрын
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz it was built by probably the best Marine gunsmith, Eric Reid. Built on a Remington 700 from 1966 with a USMC contract barrel. Mcmillan smeared Camo stock that was a USMC return. He used Winchester bottom metal, machined exactly like the RTE did. The Unertl scope mount I bought from Mike Green, who was the guy that bought Mrs Unertl out. I would say it is as close as you could get to the original.
@CuppNFall
@CuppNFall 2 ай бұрын
@@kevspssyes Eric was great. Sounds like you have a shooter..
@selfrelience9384
@selfrelience9384 6 ай бұрын
Love this kind of content and I love that you are one of the few guys willing to discuss the reasons why.
@neilbaker7679
@neilbaker7679 5 ай бұрын
Most if all, I love that Lucas freely admits his mistakes, shortcomings and gaps in his knowledge. It means that to the normal bloke on the range, if he is struggling, he can look back at a T-Rex arms video and think to himself "Well if Lucas struggled with this, then it's not me, and I can overcome this" There are FAR too many content providers that "never" get it wrong or make mistakes. They become unreachable idols that cause many people to give up because they believe "I'll never be that good"
@darionvacher9841
@darionvacher9841 6 ай бұрын
I've been obsessing over precision shooting for about 4 1/2 years. It's a very demanding skill, quite addicting and expensive down the line. I learned to manually log all my velocities in temperatures from 0-90 in 10° increments and make a table for each, then print and laminate, it's important to allow your ammo to reach the ambient air temp. Just one drop in the bucket but it's been a very useful habit for me.
@ronaldholverson257
@ronaldholverson257 6 ай бұрын
It's awesome to see how you're evolving your company to support the regular guy.
@dammain1068
@dammain1068 6 ай бұрын
A couple of other tips: A round sitting in a hot chamber will have a higher velocity. Ammo left in the sun on a hot day will have a higher velocity. If possible, the kestrel should be left suspended in air in the shade (like hanging on a branch). If the kestrel is in the sun on a table, you will have an artificially high temp.
@hunterprokurat9909
@hunterprokurat9909 6 ай бұрын
Knew some guys who would mess with other people at CMP matches and tell them to leave their ammo in the hot truck...
@Herezjush
@Herezjush 5 ай бұрын
Windmill it, wait a little bit, get actual temp. Also keep it togheter with ammo;)
@chrishuntley8369
@chrishuntley8369 5 ай бұрын
I thought my rifle was 338LM. It’s actually chambered in $10 bills.
@CDNR711
@CDNR711 4 ай бұрын
I thought 338L was the $20 bill LOL
@Stephon723
@Stephon723 4 ай бұрын
Lol
@Hawaiianbro10
@Hawaiianbro10 Ай бұрын
😂😂
@Hawaiianbro10
@Hawaiianbro10 Ай бұрын
Love my 338LM but I only shoot it to verify scope holding zero still once a year. Lol
@GnarlyCharly1988
@GnarlyCharly1988 19 күн бұрын
so true...45-70 and .458 are the same.
@ThePewski
@ThePewski 6 ай бұрын
I would encourage anyone getting into PRS to learn how to reload. Something like Lapua brass with Berger bullets will result in far more consistency and accuracy, yes, I said accuracy. Being able to control what ammo you're shooting is a game changer. It's important to remember that not every rifle is the same. What works in my rifle will not necessarily work in your rifle.
@tyonidus9337
@tyonidus9337 6 ай бұрын
hey brother, what would you say is my best option for a magnum cartridge bolt gun for not 10-15,000 dollars like the ones in this video? lol the tactical precision chassis look sooo cool and I love it but man I could never acquire these guns he's got.
@Manwich526
@Manwich526 6 ай бұрын
@@tyonidus9337 Built your own on a custom action like Curtis, Terminus, Tikka, etc. get a 24" bartlein or brux barrel, and any chassis or stock you want. Bottom metal and trigger is subjective. You can really be closer to the 3k-7k range depending on optics if you build your own
@Pepe46873
@Pepe46873 6 ай бұрын
My favourite combo
@brockedandloaded6034
@brockedandloaded6034 6 ай бұрын
​@tyonidus9337 don't let price deter you. Check out my channel for budget based long range. You can do a lot with a simple Ruger Precision Rifle, Tikka, even cheap Savage 10/110. People get caught up on how much a gun cost. If it's got a good barrel and shoots well, you're going to be the limiting factor. I'm more scared of a guy with thousands of rounds and new barrels through his Savage than a guy with 200 rounds through his Surgeon. (Not being funny)
@ThePewski
@ThePewski 6 ай бұрын
@@tyonidus9337 What Manwhich526 said and you can get a Vortex Viper II 5x25x50 for less than a 1k with a MRad reticle.
@AllAboutSurvival
@AllAboutSurvival 6 ай бұрын
long-range shooting essentials and gear selection is incredibly informative.
@TheCobaltKingYT
@TheCobaltKingYT 6 ай бұрын
Great video! definitely already watched the entire thing...
@THERIFLEMAN1124
@THERIFLEMAN1124 6 ай бұрын
With trex arms you don't have to watch the whole thing to know it's quality
@larrybodyfelt9380
@larrybodyfelt9380 6 ай бұрын
An informed, talented and entertaining presentation and presenter. As a 74 year old Fud, I don't often hand out kudos to youths, but you have well earned them. 😊
@AldoSchmedack
@AldoSchmedack 5 ай бұрын
Indeed he is a good teacher!
@EidolonTactical
@EidolonTactical 6 ай бұрын
Hey Lucas, great intro video! Keep up the education and reps! Quick clarification on your velocity concerning trueing. Just like environmental changes impact the intermediate ballistics (from the rifle’s muzzle to the target), they also impact some of the internal ballistics (ignition to muzzle). Without getting overly granular, ammunition temperature is probably the most likely to cause those changes in muzzle velocity from the two environments described. Otherwise, air density for example, and others will also cause their own deviation from zero between low to higher elevations. These kinds of details help create both the draw and challenge of precision shooting for many of us as no two environments are equal. I hope you really enjoy this journey. Reach out if there’s any way we can serve you.
@hawknessrising1
@hawknessrising1 5 ай бұрын
I picked up a IPR Scout from Granite Rifle Group LLC and it really let me get into the realm of precision shooting without having to kill myself over the details of it. I simply got to go shoot and start learning. Highly recommended.
@wquon2007
@wquon2007 6 ай бұрын
tyberisourusrex has a great long range 101 playlist
@brockedandloaded6034
@brockedandloaded6034 6 ай бұрын
THIS. His videos literally taught me enough to sit down and get first round impacts out to 900 yards on the first day. Got on 1000 eventually. Can't recommend him enough. People hate on him but it's hard to argue with how comprehensive his video series is. That and you can listen to it passively (in shower, driving) in places you can't read Cleckners book
@Herezjush
@Herezjush 5 ай бұрын
I started on it as well. Two years later I qual for my first time PRS world chanpionship.... (IPRF)
@Herezjush
@Herezjush 5 ай бұрын
​@@brockedandloaded6034why people hate on him.
@wquon2007
@wquon2007 5 ай бұрын
@Herezjush he had cancer, survived, but gained some weight. I think new ppl just see him as a fat fud because they're ignorant of the above. He is pretty heavy christian based too, that could be part of it as well.
@brockedandloaded6034
@brockedandloaded6034 5 ай бұрын
@Herezjush I think what he said. He's a super nice guy, kinda goofy sometimes with that northern accent, and Christian. That's a recipe for haters unfortunately. What gets me is his teaching is spot on. People may not like him but can't really what he's teaching. Maybe it's because it's free and comprehensive. They see it given away for free instead of selling you on their long range 101 class where they show you how to zero a rifle.
@ValidSurvival
@ValidSurvival 6 ай бұрын
Long-range and precision shooting are crucial aspects of responsible gun ownership, and it's great to see Lucas sharing his experience and insights on gear selection.
@stevecochran9078
@stevecochran9078 6 ай бұрын
I'm glad to see someone with reach thinking about these things too.
@jason91notch
@jason91notch 6 ай бұрын
Great video overall. I'll add, I think you are underestimating the power of precision reloading, especially with an extremely high end rig like you've got there. You may shoot .5-.8" groups with factory loads, but you'll never get as consistent velocities as you can with reloads, which pays huge dividends at long distances.
@FPSsuper
@FPSsuper 6 ай бұрын
I agree.
@joearledge
@joearledge 4 ай бұрын
If you're sticking with factory ammo, that's fine. Be aware that manufacturers, especially nowadays, change primers, powders, brass, and even projectiles on a pretty regular basis for what appears to be the exact same ammo. Obviously the current state of things makes this worse. If you find "the perfect ammo" buy enough of the exact same lot number to burn out the barrel. This can be an argument for hot rod cartridges with barrel lives below 2,000 rounds. Otherwise, try to buy the same stuff all the time, have a couple of alternate choices, and like he said confirm zero every single time you shoot, because that's the only way you will know if the manufacturer changed anything.
@BrassAngels
@BrassAngels 6 ай бұрын
Glad theres a company building the 2nd ammendment from knowledge, to each individual, to industry, to actually providing gear. Cheers & Rock on to Lucas & Family for making TRex Arms, Armory, etc. You guys must have one doozy of a fam reunion! 🤘
@russellnewmexico1
@russellnewmexico1 6 ай бұрын
Great content here. As well, the "Sniper 101" playlist by tiborosaurus Rex on KZbin is a great resource for anyone starting out in long range shooting. A lot of the videos are dated due to equipment advances, but principles remain the same. I am unaware of a better free resource for study on the topic.
@f308gtb1977
@f308gtb1977 6 ай бұрын
Agreed, his (TR’s) series is fairly comprehensive, especially for free on the Tubes.
@Isaacbway
@Isaacbway 5 ай бұрын
Bubble level helps a lot- shine a light into scope- line up vertical reticle shadow with a plumb bob, then lock down the bubble, if you are canted windage turns into elevation and vise versa
@puddingspy9837
@puddingspy9837 6 ай бұрын
I never get tired of looking at 2010s, what an artifact
@ballisticintegrity9741
@ballisticintegrity9741 5 ай бұрын
Yes they are beautiful rifles!
@cousland58
@cousland58 5 ай бұрын
I've been doing prs for a while. I just put together a 24in barrel 6mm arc. I only have about 200 rounds on it. But it is a seriously impressive cartridge. Easy repeatable impacts out to 1200-1300 yards is awesome out as AR platform.
@JoeHeaton-p7r
@JoeHeaton-p7r 6 ай бұрын
i don't even own a rifle, but i found this amazing! way over my head, but it's definitely learnable.
@averageshot
@averageshot 5 ай бұрын
Lucas, I too got into long range shooting 2 years ago. I’m learning as much as I can through my own trials and tribulations and I’ll tell ya, WOW what a headache this can be. But in all my years of shooting USPSA at a high level I can definitively say there is no greater high than that of cleaning a stage at a PRS match. This year shortly after my wife and I have our 4th child I’ll be attending the mammoth sniper challenge where my shooting partner and I will be using IDENTICAL 308 builds with Nightforce optics. I’ll be carrying the Vortex impact 4000 on mine and we will also have the Sig kilo 10k’s for spotting/ranging. I too have grown to love my Sig kilo 10k’s, the last match I shot I never even took my kestrel out, I simply used my Sig kilo’s for ranging and ballistic solutions and I had great success even on targets as far as 1100 yards away. Great stuff man keep up the content!
@Xavieus
@Xavieus 5 ай бұрын
Hope you win brotha
@christopherjames1453
@christopherjames1453 6 ай бұрын
The cost of that chassis and glass..... Nice.....
@biggtubbz
@biggtubbz 5 ай бұрын
what chassis is that
@AldoSchmedack
@AldoSchmedack 5 ай бұрын
​@@biggtubbzSurgeon
@bluesclues1911
@bluesclues1911 5 ай бұрын
Look into getting a "precision 22" rpr, b14, b14r...etc. it helps build fundamentals a a significantly reduced cost. Shoot from barricades, or weird positions. It's different than prone with bags and a bipod. Shooting a half inch plate at 70m is pretty similar to shooting centerfire at distance. Wind, drop, and stable platforms all come into play especially if you don't have access to a longer distance. D.f.a.t. is something to look into as well, you can practice in your living room.
@rarelyaccurate6252
@rarelyaccurate6252 6 ай бұрын
Hi Lucas, folks can get into decent optics in the sub $500 range that will give them 95% of the capability of a much more expensive scope. Look at Arken for example. For less than $500 you can get a scope that absolutely won't limit your performance at all out to 5-600 yards. It's not going to have the resolution, color accuracy or perhaps durability of a $3000 scope, but I guarantee that at 100 yards out to 500 yards you will see no degradation in hits. I would love to see you test something like that to see if you can prove me wrong. I tested an ep4 years ago and immediately sold my nxs due to the opportunity cost.
@Pepe46873
@Pepe46873 6 ай бұрын
Lots of very good options out there. Primary Arms seems to be same or better then scopes 2x or even 3x the price. I didn’t expect much and was very surprised
@ITS_THE_EXTREME
@ITS_THE_EXTREME 6 ай бұрын
Arken optics makes excellent scopes price is not always indivitavie of quality.
@joeygreen7854
@joeygreen7854 5 ай бұрын
Arken makes a decent scope especially for the price. Where the issue comes in is you might get one or two out of ten or twenty that have a 98% tracking accuracy. The others can be anywhere in the spectrum. Also someone isn’t going to spend what it cost to be competitive or “ accurate “ at distance in a rifle platform then stick a budget optic on it. They might but it just doesn’t make sense. After all the name of the game in long range precision is limiting variables in your shooting system. Also based on the fact that Lucas is using factory store bought ammunition I’m not sure he’d be the best to accurately perform such a test. There would be things that would influence his test outside of his control. Any of you ever take a box of Factory Match Ammo and pull each cartridge apart? I challenge you to do so and see that you find… check the bullets base to Ojive length on each…. See what the percentage of difference there is in a box or 20. Then measure the powder volume in each case…. What’s the difference in a box Then do the cases check the length and weight… all that will explain why most but not all factory ammo has higher standard deviations in shot to shot speed and the extreme spread of the speeds throughout the entire box of ammo. Just one reason precision shooters load their own ammo.
@MiaogisTeas
@MiaogisTeas 5 ай бұрын
To whomever did the lighting and color grade, I see what you're doing, and I appreciate it. Nice work.
@ballerrdj
@ballerrdj 6 ай бұрын
I’ve never been so early. I’ve watched content this year from the last 5 years
@rwinter14
@rwinter14 5 ай бұрын
Lucas I hope you get in to reloading and load development! Watching how different loads react to the individual rifle and seeing your groups tighten up with the right load is a mind blowing experience I think you would enjoy.
@hajduk_lives
@hajduk_lives 6 ай бұрын
Joyce Lee Malcom’s book “To Keep and Bear Arms: The Origins of an Anglo-American Right” is worth a read. It talks about how the citizen’s right to bear arms does indeed include an individual right to bear arms for self protection of the home and in public. Though it does also exist for the right of the citizen to defend themselves against Government as well, undoubtedly.
@goosecouple
@goosecouple 6 ай бұрын
No book required. "People deserve the government the get." -- The Ancients.
@hajduk_lives
@hajduk_lives 6 ай бұрын
@@goosecouple I’ve heard that attributed to quite a few folks, which i learned reading books. Ones inherent right to self defense supersedes any document, nonetheless the book I mentioned provides the contemporary context and political/social conversations/situations that would have informed the founding fathers. Those pieces are important when defending the 2nd, and other Amendments in the world today.
@curling87
@curling87 6 ай бұрын
LFG Lucas, stay motivated, stay passionate, you're a very important, highly influential person. Keep it up.
@betovargas2098
@betovargas2098 6 ай бұрын
Perfect timing, I’m just now getting into long range.
@fishbone470
@fishbone470 22 күн бұрын
Great video. I got into long range about a year ago and have learned a lot. Looking forward to your content.. Precision shooting is a different beast and super nerdy if you want to go down that route.. being an IT guy, I love it.. Cheers!
@mckimmym
@mckimmym 6 ай бұрын
Arken scopes have been my go to due to my budget. I use it for PRS comps and they hold up well
@nateferguson6366
@nateferguson6366 6 ай бұрын
found them a couple yrs ago now have 6 of em on various guns they track true return to zero everytime and first focal plane at that price point is on point.
@peterdumond6999
@peterdumond6999 5 ай бұрын
Putting out your imperfections up front. The reason I watch your content. Respectable!!
@joeygreen7854
@joeygreen7854 5 ай бұрын
Lucas, As you well know, the name of the game in precision shooting is limiting the variables in your shooting system. This is one reason why shooters load their own ammo. This could also be something that limits your ability at distance. While doing dot drills at 100 meters, your ammo inconsistency will not show itself. However, as you take your platform to farther distances this is where those inconsistencies will show. From a training perspective, this can really hurt the shooter. How can you evaluate your performance? How do you know if you made an error in your performance or your results are due to data that’s not consistent? This is why majority of precision shooters eventually end up loading their ammo. When you go to a class or competition, spend the money to attend, the travel cost all that high end equipment you’ve purchased to attend to only be frustrated because you’re chasing your tail due to inconsistent ammo. It’s like having a high end performance race car and putting locally bought unleaded gas in the tank. It’s not going to perform to its capabilities. Test a box of Factory Match Ammo . Measure the case head to ojive length then pull each cartridge apart. Check the bullets base to Ojive length on each one …. See what the percentage of difference there is in a box or 20. Then measure the powder volume contained in each case…. What’s the difference throughout the box? Then check just the case length and weigh them… you might be surprised how with what you find. All these things matter down range. Obviously they matter more with certain caliber choices over others inside of 1000 meters. Any inconsistencies you find will explain why most factory ammo has higher standard deviations in shot to shot speed and the extreme spread of the speeds throughout the entire box of ammo than those an individual would hand load with tier 1 quality components . Just one reason why you might want to keep an open mind when it comes to loading precision ammo if you want to get the most out of your system and your shooting experience. Like you said in your video, this isn’t blasting 55gn ball at 25 yards. I wish you the best of luck on your new endeavor. It’s a craft, you won’t learn this in a few months or even a year… the rabbit hole is deep. Enjoy the ride 🤙🏼
@ignitionSoldier
@ignitionSoldier 5 ай бұрын
That was very well explained. The reloading rabbit hole is quite deep, but when you find a load that the rifle likes 🤌
@alwarberigai5955
@alwarberigai5955 5 ай бұрын
The gun itself is pretty awesome. Talking in depth about your thoughts and the gun itself is much needed to educate people. Thank you
@AlexThompson
@AlexThompson 6 ай бұрын
To touch on the scopes, I personally have Nightforce, leupold, vortex scopes and the Nightforce is by far the best build quality and class clarity with excellent and accurate parallax adjustments as well.
@f308gtb1977
@f308gtb1977 6 ай бұрын
Worth the extra money then?
@AlexThompson
@AlexThompson 6 ай бұрын
@@f308gtb1977 Absolutely for precision shooting. If you never shoot beyond 300 yards/meters though you would definitely benefit from saving the coin for something else like ammo or other accessories. Parallax and glass quality are crucial for precision shooting out to distance and Nightforce has that for sure! I will be getting a Schmidt and Bender soon to get my own eyes behind that tube of glass as well. Downside to nightforce is at higher magnifications you tend to have a very tight exit pupal, but that can be overcome by backing off the zoom just a touch.
@Calcapwn300
@Calcapwn300 6 ай бұрын
@@f308gtb1977 easily....if you use it.
@3enzym3
@3enzym3 6 ай бұрын
Cool flex. We already know Nightforce is good. Cool flex though.
@3enzym3
@3enzym3 6 ай бұрын
@@AlexThompson tell us about more premium Gucci scopes you’re “getting behind.”
@rivercityracer3683
@rivercityracer3683 5 ай бұрын
+1 for Criterion barrels. I've gotten sub minute groups using their 13.9" core series + headspaced BCM bolt with IMI 77gr Razercore and AAC 69gr OTM's, and comfortably tighter than 1.5" with IMI 55gr FMJ, Winchester 62gr "RED223" and AAC 75gr sabre black tip 5.56 so far. I haven't tried any loads with monolithic/machined bullets either. An often overlooked factor with those barrels is that they chrono fast too. In 80 degree temps/50% humidity near sea level, Razercore out of their 13.9" was getting me 2,747 feet per second, AAC 69gr was 2,800, IMI 55gr was 3,059 feet per second, etc. So their 13.9" barrels chrono just as fast if not faster than a lot of 16" barrels out there. Makes for a very capable AR that can flex into recce or SPR roles just as well as it can perform as a handy Aimpoint/Eotech equipped fighting rifle, but in a smaller package that is not hilariously long, especially suppressed.
@Boblong445
@Boblong445 6 ай бұрын
Christ is king. Great content.
@xxxlonewolf49
@xxxlonewolf49 6 ай бұрын
Amen!
@CAARaeed
@CAARaeed 5 ай бұрын
What's he the king of? Pedarists?
@garrickr5084
@garrickr5084 5 ай бұрын
I recently finished a Daniel Defense build in 6ARC with a Proof carbon fiber barrel. After you shoot the first few boxes to break it in, the accuracy of the barrel is outstanding! Such a great barrel and caliber. Not to mention how light it is. Worth every penny, in my opinion.
@rybaneightsix5085
@rybaneightsix5085 6 ай бұрын
4:50 it’s simultaneously relieving and troubling that there are others seeing the same writing on the wall.
@McGloin349
@McGloin349 6 ай бұрын
I’m honestly confused and don’t see what everyone is all worked up about. The Supreme Court has reaffirmed our individual right to bear arms. Religious rights have been expanded to a greater extent than ever before. The unemployment rate is very low and the economy is humming along. Feels like people are stirring up fear unjustifiably. Why would they do that? Well, if everything is going great, I don’t need to buy the latest and greatest equipment. But if we are teetering on the brink, I better go buy this rifle and this equipment and these supplies, $$$, who would benefit financially from that?
@djphillips109
@djphillips109 6 ай бұрын
​@@McGloin349it sure is an expensive hobby. Although it seems there has been a massive uptick in the marketing and sales of everything 2A related. Thanks to Old Joe and his ever backfiring agenda implementation. Brilliant, isn't it? Yeah, I too wonder who is making a profit behind the scenes. Politicians do indeed seem to be getting awfully stinking rich above their salaries, aren't they though? Thanks for igniting my flash pan.
@mynamejef7963
@mynamejef7963 6 ай бұрын
@@McGloin349 inflation is at like 40%, and the government is trying to allow non citizens to vote in our elections, our border is being flooded with millions of undocumented illegal savages from Africa and South America while agents of foreign countries enter as well, and our infrastructure is so much worse than you think it is
@jimmycharlene
@jimmycharlene 6 ай бұрын
​@McGloin349 The dollar is dead. The economy is doing awful. Part time minimum wage job growth. They don't want people armed when the bail IN happens
@hotcakesism
@hotcakesism 2 ай бұрын
​@@djphillips109Nancy pelosi is one of the worst offenders in terms of corrupt politicians using their office to turn a profit.
@05Dmax_LLY
@05Dmax_LLY 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic video Lucas, and a great addition to the library of shooting knowledge. I just want to add a couple things from my experience getting into PRS over the last few years. First, there are A TON of accurate rifles on the market that are not expensive. You do not need a full custom precision rifle worth over $8k to shoot well. In fact, many people probably already own a good rifle like an R700 that, with a few customizations, can easily shoot well out to 1000 yds. I started with a factory Ruger American, put it in an MDT XRS chassis (~$500) and an Arken 5-25x FFP scope (~$550) and shot my first two PRS seasons with that setup. Only this year did I upgrade the barrel to something longer and heavier for balance and velocity. Getting started does not have to be expensive. Second, on the topic of cost, deals are EVERYWHERE! For all my vets out there, most optics companies have huge MSRP discounts that still put you below street price. Always look out for discounts and deals, but do not cheap out on certain things. Glass is one of those. Finally, PRS and subsequently NRL, has made me a better, all around shooter. I've learned not only how to shoot precisely, but also how to do it in weird or abnormal positions. In the real world, you'll rarely have the opportunity to set up the "perfect" prone position. Knowing how to build a solid, stable shooting position in any environment is critical. This carries over to hunting as well. For anyone interested in learning more about precision shooting, there are A TON of resources out there. If you're looking at shooting matches, go for it! Everyone I know loves watching the sport grow and will help whenever possible. If you need to borrow gear the first few times, people are willing to share. All this is to say, precision shooting is just another building block in being a prepared citizen. Shoot Straight!
@benbreakfast4314
@benbreakfast4314 6 ай бұрын
I've bought and been issued all kinds of stuff and I'm about to buy my third Arken. For people on a budget they're worth a look and on sale right now.
@jwv5540
@jwv5540 6 ай бұрын
I second that. I got two of em and I love em.
@danielstoner6159
@danielstoner6159 5 ай бұрын
I agree! Love mine, love the extra cash in my pocket also!
@TheCoatedmidget
@TheCoatedmidget 5 ай бұрын
I've only got two things on this too add. Bushnell, yes the budget scope company, makes a line called the Elite Tactical. I have the DMR3, which is 3.5-21 I believe, and it's great for the price. Made with Japanese glass, clear reticle with minimal chromatic apparition, and great for reading mirage at distance. My favorite "budget scope" is still $1500 though but less than an Atacr if you can't swing a Night Force. Also in your video I heard you talking about transonic and subsonic. I may have misunderstood what you were saying, but you said subsonic to transonic. It goes from supersonic, to transonic, to subsonic. My .308 goes transonic at 878 yds in my rifle and subsonic around 1175 yds. Only thing wrong with the video I could find. Keep up the amazing content Lucas. You and T.Rex do the shooting community a favor every time you post!!!
@leejohnson2024
@leejohnson2024 6 ай бұрын
I started using arken optics a couple years ago and now every hunting rifle I own now has arken optics on them. They can't be beat for the price.
@christaylor9484
@christaylor9484 5 ай бұрын
Great video and information. I’ve fairly new to the PRS world with only 5 years in that discipline, but everything that Lucas is saying is spot on. Practice, practice, practice will get you to where you want to be.
@MEDICIERIC
@MEDICIERIC 6 ай бұрын
Strike Eagle FFP, 34 mm tube, MIL tree reticle 5-25 and 3-18 scopes are quite good for under 7-800. I’m not sure that the NF optics are 2-3x better at their price points. And if you’re concerned with durability, the vortex warranty is well known as one of the (if not THE) best
@joeygreen7854
@joeygreen7854 5 ай бұрын
Vortex is a great company. A persons budget and needs should drive their purchase. For those that depend on their optics because they have money or more riding on weather the optic will perform the best warranty is one you don’t ever need to use. You get what you pay for in life an it’s no different with quality optics. Vortex makes amazing quality products but your Strike Eagle isn’t remotely in same area code as a Razor. Dang sure no where near that NX 8. But if a person shoot twice a year or is half blind, they could look through a Tangent and not be able to recognize the difference.
@MEDICIERIC
@MEDICIERIC 5 ай бұрын
@@joeygreen7854 I’m not saying strike eagles are the same as a NF. I’m saying a NF is not 2-3x as good relative to the price being 2-3x. At some price points, you’re paying a premium that does not correlate linearly with performance. You’re paying double or triple for marginal improvements/advantages. I believe most people can spend less on a vortex and their PRS/long range experience will not be all that different from someone who paid more for a NF. I also believe that a company that offers a warranty similar to vortex’s has to put out quality and durable optics that 90% of the population can rely on. If not they would be bankrupt. The other 10% are trying to to trijicon things to a vortex and then need to utilize their warranty
@joeygreen7854
@joeygreen7854 5 ай бұрын
⁠Ok, that’s a fair statement… Yes, there is a level in optical quality where you reach the a break over point and the juice may be very little for that squeeze… I’ll agree with you totally there and I will also agree that most entry level shooters wont see or know the difference. Also as you said, Nor will it make any impact on their performance. However this is only because of their performance level and inexperience. There is a marked difference in the performance quality. If pointed out by an instructor or professional even the inexperienced shooter will see the difference. However do they really need the quality? That’s only a question they can answer. You are only handicapped by your equipment once you’ve reached your proficiency level with that system. I think we are totally in agreement here 🤙🏼
@jimbobborg22
@jimbobborg22 6 ай бұрын
Prior to the PRC/Creedmore bandwagon, I decided to pick up a precision bolt gun. I ended up purchasing a used Remington 700 Sendero II in 300 WinMag. The rifle comes with a Bell & Carlson stock and a 6 lb trigger. Had a smith drop the pull weight to 4 lbs and thread the barrel for a brake. Did a barrel break in since it was a stainless steel barrel. After 100 rounds of whatever I could get my hands on, I loaded up some Remington Core Lokt hunting ammunition. I shot multiple 1" groups at 100 yards with it. The rifle came with a basic Leupold II in 4-12x. All in, it cost me $1100. At some point, I will get a good scope, but right now, this one is sufficient.
@raphmcafee
@raphmcafee 6 ай бұрын
Something that doesn't get talked a lot in regards to the 2A is sovereignty. Here it's summarized by an AI on the relationship between the two: The relationship between sovereignty and the Second Amendment is a complex and multifaceted one, rooted in the principles of individual rights, government accountability, and the maintenance of a free and representative democracy. Sovereignty is the ultimate authority and power vested in the people, which is the cornerstone of a democratic system of government. The Second Amendment, as a key component the Bill of Rights, plays a crucial role in upholding and protecting this sovereignty. At its core, the Second Amendment recognizes the inherent right of individuals to bear arms as a means self-defense and protection against tyranny. This right is on the belief that the ultimate power and authority should rest with the people, and that an armed citizenry is a check against government overreach and abuse of power. By ensuring that individuals have the means to defend themselves and their liberties, the Second Amendment serves as a safeguard against any threats to the sovereignty of the people. Furthermore, the right to bear arms under the Second Amendment is seen as a crucial aspect of individual sovereignty. It empowers citizens to take responsibility for their own safety and security, rather than relying solely on the government for protection. In this sense, the Second Amendment reinforces the idea that sovereignty ultimately resides in the hands of the people, and that they have the right to defend themselves and their rights. The Second Amendment also reflects the founding fathers' belief in the importance of an armed citizenry as a deterrent against foreign aggression and domestic threats. By arming the people, the government ensures that they can protect themselves and their communities in times of crisis or emergency, further strengthening the sovereignty of the nation. In conclusion, the relationship between sovereignty and the Second Amendment is one of mutual reinforcement. The right to bear arms enshrined in the Second Amendment serves as a crucial protection of individual and national sovereignty, ensuring that the power remains with the people and that they have the means to defend themselves against any threats to their freedoms and rights. It is a fundamental aspect of our constitutional republic and a vital safeguard against tyranny and oppression.
@dentontxflatearthguy2903
@dentontxflatearthguy2903 6 ай бұрын
America is a Constitutional Republic. Constitutional Republics guarantee specific rights per their constitution, unlike a democracy which is rule by the mass media which convinces average people they are well informed. The two forms of government are on the opposite ends of the political spectrum.
@raphmcafee
@raphmcafee 6 ай бұрын
@@dentontxflatearthguy2903 You are right. I looked in to it a bit with the help of an AI: The Founding Fathers used several descriptors to describe the United States instead of "democracy" or "democratic system." Some of these descriptors include: 1. Republic: The Founding Fathers often referred to the United States as a "republic." This term emphasizes the idea that power is held by the people, but that the government is not a direct expression of the people's will. Instead, the government is a representative body that is elected by the people to make decisions on their behalf. 2. Constitutional Republic: This descriptor emphasizes the importance of the Constitution in limiting the power of the government and protecting individual rights. It highlights the idea that the government is not a pure democracy, but rather a system of government that is bound by a written constitution. 3. Federal Republic: This term emphasizes the idea that the United States is a federation of states, with power divided between the federal government and the individual states. 4. Limited Government: The Founding Fathers believed in a limited government, with powers strictly defined and limited by the Constitution. This descriptor highlights the idea that the government has only those powers that are explicitly granted to it by the Constitution, and that all other powers are reserved to the states or the people. 5. Constitutional Liberty: This descriptor emphasizes the idea that the government exists to protect the liberties of the people, as defined by the Constitution. It highlights the idea that the government's power is limited by the Constitution, and that the people have certain inalienable rights that cannot be taken away by the government. 6. Self-Government: The Founding Fathers believed in the idea of self-government, where the people govern themselves through their elected representatives. This descriptor highlights the idea that the people are the source of government power, and that the government is accountable to the people. 7. Federalism: This term emphasizes the idea that power is divided between the federal government and the individual states. It highlights the idea that the government is a system of shared power, where the states and the federal government have distinct and separate powers. These descriptors highlight the Founding Fathers' belief in a system of government that is limited, accountable, and based on the principles of individual liberty and self-government. They emphasize the idea that the government is not a pure democracy, but rather a system of government that is designed to protect the rights and liberties of the people.
@raphmcafee
@raphmcafee 6 ай бұрын
The Founding Fathers did not use the term "democratic society" to describe the United States. Instead, they used terms such as "republic" and "constitutional republic" to describe the system of government they established. The term "democracy" was not a widely used or well-defined concept during the Founding era, and many of the Founders were skeptical of pure democracy as a form of government. In fact, the Founding Fathers explicitly rejected the idea of a democratic society in several important documents, including the Constitution and the Federalist Papers. For example, in Federalist No. 10, James Madison wrote that "democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention;" and in the Constitution, the Founders established a system of government based on representation and checks and balances, rather than direct democracy. Instead of "democratic society," the Founding Fathers used terms such as "representative democracy" or "constitutional republic" to describe the system of government they established. These terms emphasize the idea that power is held by the people, but that it is exercised through elected representatives and a constitutional framework, rather than through direct democratic decision-making. Therefore, while the Founding Fathers did not use the term "democratic society" to describe the United States, they did establish a system of government that is based on democratic principles and values, such as representation, individual rights, and the rule of law.
@dhena8112
@dhena8112 5 ай бұрын
I’m loving these series. One thing I have to say is for a small frame ar15 unless you have the budget just go with 5.56 the 6mm ARC while having better ballistics is a lot more expensive to train with. If you’re new it’s better to learn how everything precision shooting works before chasing the next greatest cartridge. Next thing is go get some training scoped carbine/spr classes are readily available now. Most instructors will have some of the other equipment available that are together cumulatively expensive like the kestrel, spotting scope, LRF, tripods, etc. Precision shooting is what I love doing now.
@TurboCarlos
@TurboCarlos 6 ай бұрын
Great timing thank you I needed this video
@StrugglesWithWords
@StrugglesWithWords 5 ай бұрын
Lucas spent the 100k in gear to tell us what's working. Can't overstate how valuable this information is.
@THERIFLEMAN1124
@THERIFLEMAN1124 6 ай бұрын
Great stuff (im here to try and help the algorithm)
@skillsgaptrainer
@skillsgaptrainer 5 ай бұрын
Hey Lucas / T-Rex Arms, we loved this deep dive into precision shooting! Your breakdown of the gear and the training considerations was super insightful. The content is getting a little more educational and more intricate, versus all the action that you did in the past of great athletic prowess, which is great to see, and as a result, we will have to watch it again as now there are a lot more details to try to disentangle and figure out and remember! It really resonated with us, Ion and Valentin and some colleagues, who are now practising on all the platforms, and thanks to you and recent news from 2015 or so, we now all believe in the importance of responsible firearms ownership and the skills it takes to be truly proficient. We were inspired by your video that, when seeing this nice bolt action rifle in the video, we quickly wrote an essay about the connection between shooting sports with primary rifles and bolt action Cadex and Canadian identity and the hidden fabric in Canadian society, the 'warrior ethos'! Canada needs info like this too! In Canada, we all keep telling each other that we don't do American style shooting, only shooting that is as friendly as possible. But this does not seem well aligned with the concept of performance and reality or the future requirements. So we chose to do the essay more like your style, to challenge and push back against people here who want to ruin the quality of training in sports shooting by using fictional philosophical structure, and then to send this essay to our leaders here so that they don't pretend that good logic and authentic philosophical analysis and representation, shouldn't be a Canadian thing. You can find the essay on our KZbin channel "The Rifle and the Soul: Why Shooting Sports Are My Lifeline to Canada" kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHqtoqttmKZ3jJY We could easily envision you as a guardian in this essay as a video. But a guardian in America, not Canada. We are not so lucky to have shooters like you in Canada, since they worked for a hundred years to stop people from rising to performance athletic standards as they did to Bruce Lee, when they stopped him from advancing the martial arts in China, to prevent their human potentials there as well.. to stop the citizens there as well! But not in America! In America, people can become better at capabilities! The only place we know can reliably allow this. Not too familiar with many other countries, but seems like this is the way. Keep up the great work! Keep inspiring! And Educating!
@brandonwilliams7371
@brandonwilliams7371 6 ай бұрын
Great content. Learning how to shoot long range accurately is a skill all prepared citizens should have. I’ve been on the same journey the last 2 years and it’s a blast. It takes time, patience, and practice to become proficient at this sport.
@bradyhopkins8309
@bradyhopkins8309 6 ай бұрын
Best channel on KZbin change my mind! 🤙🏼
@chips9092
@chips9092 6 ай бұрын
Its the only 2A channel i watch. Trex must not have monetized their channel or something because its the only one with no ads every four minutes. Amazing.
@f308gtb1977
@f308gtb1977 6 ай бұрын
@@chips9092correct they’re still non-monetized.
@tombo3425
@tombo3425 6 ай бұрын
@@chips9092 With their content type, there is no way KZbin would monetize their videos.
@chips9092
@chips9092 6 ай бұрын
@@tombo3425 yeah but garand thumb has ads, which is why I stopped watching his stuff.
@OFFICIALUND
@OFFICIALUND 6 ай бұрын
How about one that actually understands the purposes of the 2nd Amendment?
@bradwells5774
@bradwells5774 5 ай бұрын
One of the most informative videos I have seen on the topic! This is getting saved an archived. Would enjoy a follow-up vid on this once you get more training and personal experience on the topic.
@Calcapwn300
@Calcapwn300 6 ай бұрын
saying that magnums belong in bolts while implying that 308 doesn't show you have lots to learn. thats like saying 223 doesn't belong in a bolt gun. You're basing it off recoil it sounds like when you should be basing it off of the precision needs of the shooter. gas guns are getting better thats true, its exciting to see them get this competitive
@papaswoodshop4873
@papaswoodshop4873 6 ай бұрын
Sir. you did an excellent job presenting this topic. Thank you.
@prometheus-l5u
@prometheus-l5u 6 ай бұрын
interesting!
@zulu_delta09
@zulu_delta09 5 ай бұрын
Couple key points. Use the chrono not only for your avg velocity but more importantly your extreme spread. Generally speaking, every 10fps in Es translates to .1 mil of vertical stringing. This allows you to start milling your targets to know what your hit probability is on any given target. Secondly learn how to use a rifles mphvalue. What mph will translate to .1mil correction per 100yds at full value left to right. Your 6.5 at 700' and your velocity is a 6mph gun. So if you have a target at 600y, your baseline correction is .6 tenths. Then you can apply the angle of the wind to draw a proper correction but it comes from the baseline "gun number" or "guns mph" Hope this helps get you going. Its great seeing you get into the precision game.
@christofrini
@christofrini 6 ай бұрын
lol @ 7:11 where Lucas goes on a tirade about how the proper name is “precision shooting”, not “long range shooting”… on a video with “long range shooting” in the title
@McGloin349
@McGloin349 6 ай бұрын
Lol
@TREXARMS
@TREXARMS 6 ай бұрын
Something something clickbait
@aj897
@aj897 6 ай бұрын
I don’t get how this is precision shooting but if you fire from 5 yards away it’s somehow not? All shooting is precision shooting imo.
@christofrini
@christofrini 6 ай бұрын
@@TREXARMS Is it clickbait, or did Lucas just fail to communicate what he wanted the video to be about with your editor? Lol
@armeddiver
@armeddiver 5 ай бұрын
This was an awesome video. I sincerely appreciate your transparency and honesty. I learned a lot from this video. Despite having an interest in precision shooting since 2017, I am pretty sure you have forgotten more about it than I have ever known. I am a 100% recreational shooter. I would really like to get some training in precision shooting one of these days, but at 70, I would like it to be somewhere close to home and so far I haven’t found any close enough to me. Now with that said, here is my two cents worth. Please forgive me, but I am probably going to be using the phrase, “I am a huge fan”, several times in these comments. I build all of my precision sport rifles (PSRs). The first one I built was a 24” gas gun in 2017. It was built on an Aero Precision M5 Receiver Set. It is the PSR that I shoot the best. I believe some of the reasons I shoot it the best are; 1. The barrel is solid with some weight to it. I will say more about it later. 2. The weight of the gun, which helps with recoil. 3. The fact that it is a gas gun. The buffer system absorbs a lot of the recoil making it much easier to recover and stay on target. I have several guns with Proof carbon fiber wrapped barrels, both bolt and gas guns. While I am a huge fan of Proof carbon fiber wrapped barrels, I don’t think they shoot as flat and as consistently as the barrel in my Aero Precision M5. The barrel in the Aero Precision M5 is the least expensive barrel I have ever bought. The barrel in this gun is a Ballistic Advantage AR 10 Premium Series 24" 6.5 Creedmoor with rifle length gas system and a 1:8 twist. As I said, this was the first gun I built and my ignorance about precision shooting was high. I heard that barrel burnout on 6.5CM guns was around 1,500 rds. Having no experience with a PSR, but a lot of experience with handguns, I imagined burning out a barrel in a weekend. I bought the Ballistic Advantage barrel because it was cheap. I paid just over $300.00. Despite being so inexpensive it is a great barrel. All of my Proof carbon fiber wrapped barrels were around the $900.00 mark. The Proof barrels are lighter, but they are not as rigid as a solid steel barrel. According to Proof, their carbon fiber wrapped barrels are supposed to dissipate heat faster than a steel barrel, consequently “reducing” erosion and cranking in the barrel. Several people have commented that they question Proof’s claim or flat out disagree with it and they really question my use of a carbon fiber wrapped barrel in a PSR. I’ve never shot multiple rounds in rapid succession thru any of my barrels, so my barrels have more than enough time to cool down between shots. Based on my experience up to this point, and quite a bit of research, it is [my] opinion that I should be able to get at least 5,000 rds out of my Proof barrels before I notice any significant expansion in my MOA. You mentioned 6mm ARC. Despite there being only one manufacturer (Hornady), the prices are pretty reasonable. The 6mm ARC has become one of my favorite calibers, just behind 6.5CM and 300Blk. It has several advantages. First it can be used in a standard AR15 platform. All you need to do to take a standard 5.56 AR15 to 6 ARC is replace the bolt (6.5 Grendel), use different mags - again 6.5 Grendel, and replace barrel. I personally have both an AR15 and a PSR in 6 ARC. It has a much greater barrel life than 6.5CM or 6CM. It is a very flat shooting cartridge and can comfortably reach out to 1000 meters (1093.61 yds). Lastly, it has a mild recoil in comparison to .308, 6.5 CM or 6CM. My very personal belief is that it will evidentially be the new service cartridge of the U.S. Military, not the 6.8x51, but that is a different story for a different day. On the issue of scopes. All of my scopes are under $1,500.00 and they are all Vortex or Leupold. While I can afford higher end scopes, I haven’t seen such a difference in optical clarity or features that justifies the significantly higher cost. You can get really good first focal plane (FFP) scopes with really good reticles for a lot less than $3,000.00. While I would love to have a NightForce scope I doubt I ever will. I really appreciate hearing about Federal Gold Metal Match. I personally have had really good luck with Hornady Match and Superformance. I will be getting some Federal Gold Metal Match and trying it out. I shoot exclusively factory ammunition. Reloading ain’t my thing. FYI, most, not all, factory ammo for rifles is tested through a 24” barrel. As for choreographs, I am a huge fan of the MagnetoSpeed V3 and the Garmin Xero. I use them both pretty much interchangeably. As for price, I think it is pretty much a wash between Garmin Xero, LabRadar, and the MagnetoSpeed V3. With the extras I have bought for the MagnetoSpeed there is only a $50 difference in price. I think the MagnetoSpeed is a little more accurate and consistent, and that is because it is mounted to the gun. With the Garmin Xero there will be some variance because of placement. I am a little surprised that you will baulk at paying $500 for a choreograph, but don’t blink at paying $3000 for a scope or laser range finder. Because I use mostly Hornady ammunition my Kestrel is the Hornady 4DOF. I also use the Hornady app. I really appreciate you going over the Kestrel and the app as thoroughly as you did. I have a lot to learn about both. I would really like to get some training in both. There is no question that the majority of the shooting bags out in the wild are Armageddon bags, but I am a huge fan ColeTac bags. I have had great success with them and have quite the assortment. I really appreciate the paracord hack you showed us for carrying the shooting bag on your plate carrier, that was pretty cool. Really Right Stuff (RRS) has awesome tripods and accessories. I think everyone should checkout rrssoar.com. I also highly recommend checking out Vortex for tripods. I have two of their tripods and love them. I also use Manfrotto tripods, because I have used them for photography for a very long time, but I really don’t recommend Manfrotto for precision shooting. you need to change either the mounting plate on the tripod or on the gun. RRS and Vortex are the easier and better way to go in my opinion. The MDT CKYE Pod is truly the king of the hill in bipods, especially with the BTC ( both Picatinny and ARCA compatible) head. I also really like ACCU-TAC and Atlas bipods. I am not a fan of Harris bipods. They are sturdy, but they don’t have the adjustability/flexibility the others have. While I definitely wouldn’t use or recommend MagPul bipods on a PSR, they have greater adjustability than the Harris. I’m sorry this was such a long comment, but you said you wanted to hear from us. I really thank you for making this video. I learned a lot from it and it validated some of the choices that I have made in the equipment I have bought. Again, a very sincere thank you for making this video.
@ericday2072
@ericday2072 6 ай бұрын
A KZbin video series that has been very helpful to me is TiborasaurusRex Long Range 101: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqiqXndmfc92eLM
@SpacemanSpifff
@SpacemanSpifff 6 ай бұрын
One more thing to consider if you're on a budget when trying to decide between a bolt gun and a gas gun is you'll probably consume less of that pricey precision ammo with a bolt gun just due to the nature of the platform.
@QKuKier
@QKuKier 6 ай бұрын
I don't have money for this shit
@ChocolatteDee
@ChocolatteDee 6 ай бұрын
Get three minutes into the video and he starts talking about that.
@ChocolatteDee
@ChocolatteDee 6 ай бұрын
3:23 / 5:20
@QKuKier
@QKuKier 6 ай бұрын
@@ChocolatteDee not US citizen, it's x5 prices for me than your dollar equivalent
@ChocolatteDee
@ChocolatteDee 6 ай бұрын
@@QKuKier ah, I apologize then
@uh60ce1
@uh60ce1 6 ай бұрын
It would be awesome if you could get Ray Helms on the podcast at some point. Great job btw, I don't think I could have explained this subject this well and I've been doing it for over 25 years.
@ZuckMihoff
@ZuckMihoff 4 ай бұрын
Is this what happens when you don't have any friends?
@meejmuas8686
@meejmuas8686 4 ай бұрын
I used to have friends, superficial ones. This sniper setup made sure I dont anymore
@EriMCardenasRC
@EriMCardenasRC 4 ай бұрын
Affirmative
@CoolCalmAnddConscious
@CoolCalmAnddConscious 3 ай бұрын
Yes, you end up in a KZbin comment section hating on other men
@ZuckMihoff
@ZuckMihoff 3 ай бұрын
@@CoolCalmAnddConscious Lukas will never know who you are. No matter how much you boot lick
@joshuagabaree
@joshuagabaree 6 ай бұрын
I shoot PRS both center fire and rimfire, for your centerfire guns you should definitely give Area 419 or Masterpiece Arms a look for muzzle breaks they are some of the best on the market and reduce recoil like crazy! Also another great factory ammo offering is Berger ammo I personally shoot the 140g Berger hybrid target out of my custom built 6.5CM and they are insanely accurate out of my rifle!! Long range precision shooting has always been my passion! It was your videos that got me into training with my carbine/handgun a lot more so it’s awesome to see you getting into this kinda stuff!! Awesome videos guys keep it up!
@OFFICIALUND
@OFFICIALUND 6 ай бұрын
0:50 - Ummmmmm, Someone doesn’t understand the basics of the 2nd Amendment, and needs to go back and read D.C. Vs Heller. Countering tyranny is certainly ONE OF the reasons for the 2A, but Scalia expressly includes protection of family against “bad guys” as another reason. You should take down this video, educate yourself, reshoot it and then upload. Just embarrassing.
@swagismund
@swagismund 6 ай бұрын
Gay nerd
@lytening79
@lytening79 6 ай бұрын
Yep. D.C. vs. Heller's PRIMARY holding was that possessing a firearm was an individual right UNCONNECTED with service in the militia TO INCLUDE defense of "hearth and home." Not sure how someone who consistently bashes people for not understanding and appreciating the 2A could get it so wrong, but Lucas somehow managed.
@OFFICIALUND
@OFFICIALUND 6 ай бұрын
@@lytening79 Exactly. The three reasons provided in Heller (with a full recitation of the History of the 2A) are 1) Defense of hearth and home, 2) defense of country from foreign invaders, 3) defense of country against tyrants. The law challenged in D.C. vs. Heller was one that prohibited/restricted firearms ownership IN THE HOME.
@dimemmo
@dimemmo 6 ай бұрын
The constitution was born off the back of fighting a tyrannical government. I really doubt he is saying that you cannot defend yourself against individuals and more so expressing the fact of what the constitution was originally intended for since so many people refuse to recognize that.
@xxxlonewolf49
@xxxlonewolf49 6 ай бұрын
Except no. The Heller case is added ret-con. The 2A, AS WRITTEN & INTENDED, is 100% about countering an oppression & tyrannical government. So NO the video doesn't need pulled down & changed. YOU need to unfuck yourself.
@OshoRamseyGump
@OshoRamseyGump 2 ай бұрын
It's cool to see how much of this gear was inspired and developed within competitive shooting.
@Mosin_Chad
@Mosin_Chad 6 ай бұрын
You can get a sub one thousand rifle (barreled action and chassis) but not a sub thousand setup. For example, you can get a barreled action Howa 1500 for 450 and get either the mdt field stock for 300 or the oryx chassis for 430. Then invest into good set of rings and glass. In my experience, the Howa 1500 has done pretty good for me
@shawnclark1576
@shawnclark1576 5 ай бұрын
All we need now is a range finder/ballistic computer that integrates with the scope and automatically changes the reticle/point of aim!
@EricVernor
@EricVernor 5 ай бұрын
It's a THOR. They correct your shot and night vision!
@RobertSmith-xh4lx
@RobertSmith-xh4lx 6 ай бұрын
The lock time of the bolt gun is faster than the gas gun...also I've yet to see a gas gun that can hold 1/4 moa...your right on about bolt guns for magnums, and gas guns for 308/6.5.....but a 308/6.5 bolt gun is honestly perfect for 90% of situations you would want a rifle for.
@silentfox8
@silentfox8 6 ай бұрын
i bought a well taken care of second hand ruger rpr in 6.5 creedmore for 1400$ and an arken 6-24 for around 500$, both of those together costs less than a brand new rpr, you can absolutely get the tools you need without breaking too much of the bank if you look hard enough, its not the BEST setup by any means but the rifle is capable of mile shots and the glass is crisp and it gets the job done, get out there and train train train, build a good dope and train some more
@chuckb3489
@chuckb3489 5 ай бұрын
This is your best video yet, thank you Lucas.
@SkillCollectors
@SkillCollectors 5 ай бұрын
Next thing yah know, you're going to be reloading your own precision rounds. Love seeing this. (There's also tuner brakes which can tune the gun to a round)
@davidross8668
@davidross8668 3 ай бұрын
Living in the USA for the last 20 plus years, I have recently gotten interested in precision shooting but the gear is just too expensive to get started so I'll just watch others do it. Great video by the way.
@sargonbebla5815
@sargonbebla5815 6 ай бұрын
Something TRex Labs could dive into is the collection aspect you mentioned early in the video. How a shooter/spotter sniper team with the right camera equipment, laptop with photoshop software, and comm setup could operate as a ground reconnaissance asset. I manage/plan these ops for a living, let me know if you need more insight.
@DJ-jq8if
@DJ-jq8if 5 ай бұрын
Great video, Lucas. I’d also say, learning to range find off of something that doesn’t emit a laser is even better and cheaper. There are various range cards to help gauge distance without being spotted.
@davidnelson5728
@davidnelson5728 6 ай бұрын
Great video. It's definitely a great prospective from your experience. My son and i got into precision shooting a few years back. My son runs the NEMO Arms omen in 300 win and an NF 12-42x56. At 16, he is already doing the 1 mile milk jug challenge. His preferred training is hitting golf balls on a string at 800 and 1,000 yards. I have been fortunate in life to make very good money and can afford the upper tier firearms. But I definitely don't have the connections like you to train with top tier shooter's. We are self tought and still learning. Thanks for your support of the 2nd and all the great content.
@brandonchandler9032
@brandonchandler9032 6 ай бұрын
I have a NEMO arms omen as well it's incredible. I have the recon 18-inch barrel model with a nightforce atacr 5×25×56. Phenomenal semi auto rifle in a big magnum cartridge. You could go get a bigger caliber, but your options are bolt guns.
@neilbaker7679
@neilbaker7679 5 ай бұрын
Personal training with top class instructors is NOT very expensive. In many cases, 3 days with a top instructor or teacher (there IS a difference) will cost you less than a new rifle. There really is NO excuse.
@wendigoarms2297
@wendigoarms2297 6 ай бұрын
I'm excited for a follow up video in a couple years to see how/if your mindset has changed on the topics in this vid
@ChemistyStudent
@ChemistyStudent 5 ай бұрын
420-460yards is the range where AR15 ballistic drop gets a bit wonky; it's just the nature of the beast and something that once you experience it, you'll understand what I mean. The best advice i heard for precision shooting was to learn your reticle and plan ahead. For example, the Primary Arms Hud/DMR reticle I use has multiple ways of auto-ranging based on human characteristics. 10in head, 18in shoulder, etc. Get a list of other common objects that you can use to range based on what's built into your scope. Soda cans are roughly 4.5inchs tall for example. . Magnification isn't the most important element of a scope, the quality of the glass is.If you hit your max zoom, and you can't figure out what you're looking at, you have a couple problems. Likewise, the higher you dial your magnification the worse your mirage is going to get. 20x is fine if you're made of money, but a 10X scope with good glass is going to serve you just fine. You can throw money at precision shooting, but taking a Class with decent gear, will serve you the best in figuring out what you actually need and want.I really liked the fact my scope had lower zoom when I was shooting movers for example, I could zoom out, hold where I needed and have plenty of time to see the target coming, read the wind, and break the shot at my respiratory pause. As others in the comments have stated, there's a lot of things that make your bullet travel faster, it's better to hit low than to miss the target entirely and go over since you won't see the splash. Chronographs are fine, but you can kill two birds with one stone by hitting the known/unknown distance range. Build a dope card on write-in-the-rain paper, double stick tape that to the stock of your rifle. Finally practice shooting while sitting cross legged even dry fire. Prone is easy, but grass exists and mandates you get higher to see targets at times. Shooting while cross legged is excellent from a utility point of view, and you can build a position around it, rest the rifle on a chair, your partners shoulder, a desk etc. It's excellent for teaching you how to read your respiratory pause as well.
@n0tcher
@n0tcher 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video, I'm totally falling into the precision rabbit hole, thanks Lucas. 👍🏾
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