How Magic Johnson destroyed teams without volume scoring | Greatest Peaks Ep. 5

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Thinking Basketball

Thinking Basketball

Күн бұрын

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@MindfulAttraction
@MindfulAttraction 4 жыл бұрын
The most underrated part of Magic's game was his jump shot. The fact that the average 90% from the free throw line shows that he had the stroke to be a shooter. But he played in an era where post-play was more encouraged
@glint6070
@glint6070 4 жыл бұрын
This is my main gripe when people compare Ben Simmons to him, people legit don't understand how aggressive Magic could get they just know about the flashy passes
@thegumbojumbo2944
@thegumbojumbo2944 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, his shooting motion made shooting off the dribble difficult. But in terms of pure shooting touch he is up there with virtually anyone.
@yunan9610
@yunan9610 4 жыл бұрын
And he can score like a center too if he needed
@RealNormHall
@RealNormHall 4 жыл бұрын
Lamelo Ball better 😀👌
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 4 жыл бұрын
I was just talking today about how great and proper of a scorer players like Magic and Lebron are, people don't know how much of an impact on scoring and on offense these guys have, and especially they don't know how all around Msgic is and how he wasn't popping do-it-all stats and games with just passing.
@WhelmedButReady
@WhelmedButReady 4 жыл бұрын
I swear this series is what I'm most hyped about from week to week. Just high quality basketball content right here.
@TheSands83
@TheSands83 4 жыл бұрын
No they r really bad.. he honestly doesn’t understand what he’s watching
@mikedwyer2925
@mikedwyer2925 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! Good Analysis!!!
@EGarrett01
@EGarrett01 4 жыл бұрын
Phil Jackson said that the reason the Bulls won the 1991 Finals was that the Lakers couldn't keep the lead when Magic Johnson went to the bench. That's one of the greatest compliments I've ever heard a player receive. For the guy who had Michael Jordan to say the only reason they could beat your team was that you couldn't be on the floor 100% of the time. EDIT: Somehow the comments turned into a fight about Lebron and Marc Gasol. LOL.
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 4 жыл бұрын
Literally pulled a Lebron, Hakeem, Tim Duncan type of carry (and vs a team that had SCOTTIE PIPPEN on defense) but people only look at his Showtime teams or when Big Game was still healthy.
@veracity5977
@veracity5977 4 жыл бұрын
Dusk TheHunter MJ was better than Pippen at defense
@veracity5977
@veracity5977 4 жыл бұрын
Everett01 thats revisionist history. The truth is MJ guarded Magic for most of the 91 Finals and he held him to 0-0-0 in OT of Game 3 after MJ already hit the shot to send the game into OT. MJ also played good defense on him in Game 5.
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 4 жыл бұрын
@@veracity5977 HELL NO
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 4 жыл бұрын
@@veracity5977 In 1991 Magic was broken down already and dealt with the combo of Pippen and Jordan (and with no Showtime), that doesn't help Jordan's case over the cloner and greatest perimeter defender ever Pippen, nor over The Glove GP already.
@MindfulAttraction
@MindfulAttraction 4 жыл бұрын
You put it perfectly, magic was a better on ball passer and bird was the best off ball passer. I would have loved to see both of them play together. It would have been basketball genius at its highest level. Both of them were so unique
@BurritoKingdom
@BurritoKingdom 4 жыл бұрын
Olympics and they played in the college all star together. Magic said it was fun playing with him.
@MindfulAttraction
@MindfulAttraction 4 жыл бұрын
@@BurritoKingdom yeah I saw that clip. It's unreal watching that. Their IQ was just off the chart. And they flow so perfectly together.
@jsx7362
@jsx7362 4 жыл бұрын
They’d never lose
@lorrancelewis7120
@lorrancelewis7120 4 жыл бұрын
What's an off ball passer? Only thing that didn't make sense to me
@BurritoKingdom
@BurritoKingdom 4 жыл бұрын
@@lorrancelewis7120 at touch passing. Basically larry bird is better at passing right after the pass.
@floridagator1765
@floridagator1765 3 жыл бұрын
This guy was unbelievable!! My favorite NBA player of ALL TIME!
@jprsa
@jprsa 6 ай бұрын
my GOAT! Better than any other, except for Kareem / Wilt and Bill!
@josiahross2463
@josiahross2463 4 жыл бұрын
This video shows how advanced Magic’s ball skills are. That half spin into the righty finish on the left side was crazy
@outlander234
@outlander234 Жыл бұрын
This is what people dont understand... He was as good ball handler as Kyrie for example in todays modern game. His ability to protect the ball and change directions and speed in the way he does it has never been seen before or after.
@mattvalin1958
@mattvalin1958 4 жыл бұрын
I giggled at 'the oversized Johnson' :)
@tshimologokgosi7340
@tshimologokgosi7340 4 жыл бұрын
When he said “drive it down your throat” I was like pause
@mlkchannel5890
@mlkchannel5890 4 жыл бұрын
@@tshimologokgosi7340 nbs
@metalsadman
@metalsadman 4 жыл бұрын
Sturdy johnson
@TheSands83
@TheSands83 4 жыл бұрын
U like that do u?
@theamateurobserver
@theamateurobserver 4 жыл бұрын
Ben’s got jokes
@linusxv181
@linusxv181 4 жыл бұрын
All I knew that he was the greatest PG of all time but I never actually got to see or analyze the greatness of Magic until this video
@razkable
@razkable 3 жыл бұрын
magic led a team with terry teagle as his 7th best player a.c. green as a 6th man with starting center young vlade divac and starting big sam perkins to the finals with no bench shooting and little depth at center pg sg or the wing...lol..thats a miracle job
@linusxv181
@linusxv181 3 жыл бұрын
@@razkable I always hear about this 1991 Finals run, I still find it impressive that he won one game against the Bulls
@manuginobilisbaldspot424
@manuginobilisbaldspot424 3 жыл бұрын
Magic's 1987 Finals remains to me the gold standard. 26/13/8 doesn't seem like much in today's easy offense era. But to do that on 54/50/96 shooting, that's ridiculous. But the kicker for me was this...78 assists to just 13 turnovers. For the entire series. A 6:1 assist to turnover ratio against the champion Celtics in the Finals. No one has ever come CLOSE to that in a 6 or 7 game Finals series handling the ball at the volume he did. Magic did it while being the main scorer and setting his teammates up to where they shot a 51.5% shooting percentage as a team! Over six games in the Finals. Efficiency > athleticism. Magic at his best was better than anyone that ever lived at this.
@alexjiang6806
@alexjiang6806 2 жыл бұрын
You can argue that the 6:1 assist ratio is actually underselling it, because assists are only counted when shots go in. Given that this was the 80’s and Magic’s spamming of the “A” button, in a perfect world he could have more than 50% of what you said.
@BlueGrovyle
@BlueGrovyle Жыл бұрын
@@alexjiang6806 well this _really_ just points out why assist:turnover ratio isn't nearly as important of a stat as some people make it out to be, especially when looking at guys like LeBron, Harden, Trae, Luka, who are all passing wizards _and_ volume scorers-players turn the ball over while trying to score, too. Turnovers are only very bad outcomes when they lead to easy transition points for the opposition, whereas, if a pass goes out of bounds, it's no worse than a missed shot and defensive rebound.
@teal2913
@teal2913 Жыл бұрын
@@BlueGrovyle a defensive rebound can also lead to easy transition points anyway if its a long rebound that leads to a fast break
@bluegregory6239
@bluegregory6239 Жыл бұрын
I am an old-school basketball guy, but in my mind, the 1987 Lakers were the single best team in NBA history.
@hellfearstrys
@hellfearstrys Жыл бұрын
⁠@@bluegregory6239it’s ok we all have our opinions but 96 bulls 14 spurs and 17 warriors >
@merchantsmithimages
@merchantsmithimages 3 жыл бұрын
You'll never understand Magic's game unless you watched in real time. He could score if he wanted, Magic but understood team work leading to high production. He was Euro stepping before it was called such a thing. This is great content, because it shows the all around game of his. Also Magic wasn't old in 1991 contrary to popular belief. He was the winner of the 1989-1990 MVP awards.
@eddieG667
@eddieG667 Жыл бұрын
Not too far off his prime in 1991, but his legs were noticeably slower and his stamina started to dwindle in 88. Prior to 88, Riley would just allow Magic to handle full court press on his own and it wouldn’t affect his stamina. The Sonics used to send 3 defenders to rotate pressing him and it had almost no effect. Sharp contrast to 88 where they often had AC Green brining up the ball. And we all know the effect Pippen had in 1991z
@henrymalong4542
@henrymalong4542 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Watched game 3 of the finals and game 4 of the wcf that year live at the old gw forum. Noticed right away he lost lots of his speed already. Yet, Phil Jackson was right, the bulls knew they could beat the lakers because magic couldn't play 48 minutes. When he was on the court you could see the lakers was competitive. When he sat down, the bulls were feasting. Anyway saw him in 88 live in the reg season, he was much faster and more nimble back then.
@jOKIC1-fk5wh
@jOKIC1-fk5wh Жыл бұрын
yup 30 a game would have been no problem I've even heard it himself say something like that.
@JaGra-tm2mw
@JaGra-tm2mw 10 ай бұрын
He was still in his prime lol he was 31​@@eddieG667
@za5528
@za5528 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm not a doctor but double-teaming Magic Johnson in the post is not something I'd recommend" you can hear him laugh as he makes this joke about Doc Rivers and Jokic in the Clippers series
@demonkingbadger6689
@demonkingbadger6689 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Jordan could score on a triple team. But, magic triple teamed knows he has 2 free teammates.
@BladeintheBrain
@BladeintheBrain 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Taylor's commentary in space is his greatest weapon, with witty quips and references that leave viewers guessing, but his ability to commentate on clips in transition really unlocks the watchers understanding, and that has tremendous value. That combination of different looks in addition to the level of energy he brings to every video makes thinking basketball, in my book, the best analysis channel on the platform today ;)
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 4 жыл бұрын
Great commentating and analysis by your part as well ahhahah. And his Bird and Magic videos are instant classics.
@willhooke
@willhooke 4 жыл бұрын
I read this in Ben's voice 🤣🤣🤣
@nube_fenix
@nube_fenix 3 жыл бұрын
@@willhooke yeah, i thought it sounded awfully familiar!
@godnotavailable2094
@godnotavailable2094 2 жыл бұрын
This channel's sense of humor is so unique and honestly just as brilliant as the analysis.
@javongreen2515
@javongreen2515 4 жыл бұрын
Man this is one of the best series ever uploaded to this platform
@mlkchannel5890
@mlkchannel5890 4 жыл бұрын
Nbs💯
@LMcVann44
@LMcVann44 4 жыл бұрын
I love the way you presented his case for best offensive player of all time, supercharging his playmaking through his scoring, putting up 20ppg while in double digit assists is incredible. It's something I've never seen put into words before and it's fantastic analysis.
@MasterAppels
@MasterAppels 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of people only focus on scoring, which is sad, really.
@edp-gb6yz
@edp-gb6yz 4 жыл бұрын
@@MasterAppels 100%, and if you can score while mainly being a playmaker (magic, cp, bron, etc) then its even more impressive
@yd856
@yd856 4 жыл бұрын
Mo Shashoug Bron was only mainly a play maker this year, not in years past.
@edp-gb6yz
@edp-gb6yz 4 жыл бұрын
@@yd856 bron has always been a playmaker, his vision and iq were his best attributes out of highschool other than this athleticism
@t4d0W
@t4d0W 4 жыл бұрын
@@MasterAppels Its more like people forget that for some very skilled passers, they possess various high level skills and physical gifts to easily rack up 20 in a game. That is considering they are highlighted as a first option on offense but ideally (and to the core of their passer play style) are 2nd options at best. People forget that context in scoring and lump what legends/super stars could do to some players in the regular season having hot shooting stretches in the regular season.
@TRIBEY92
@TRIBEY92 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen much footage of magic. As incredible as this video, the editing and the analysis are, I could’ve enjoyed just watching the footage of him cut together with no audio. What a mesmerising and amazing player he was. I’ve always considered him one of the goats and I still think I’ve been underrating him...😦
@kingcam0775
@kingcam0775 3 жыл бұрын
look up "the magic man" on youtube. It's exactly what you need.
@Jahjaga
@Jahjaga 4 жыл бұрын
Pass off the spin at 16:01 is incredible.
@jasonbournesburner3845
@jasonbournesburner3845 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, I said the same thing too, I never saw that before and I was watching these games in the 80s.
@Jacev_
@Jacev_ Жыл бұрын
If Magic played in this era, he'd easily lead the league in assists by a WIDE margin. The fact he was getting these types of looks in a clogged lane is insane. With how much the floor has opened up now and shooters are much better at making their shots - Magic would be feasting.
@waff6ix
@waff6ix 4 ай бұрын
💯
@troyjohnson9123
@troyjohnson9123 25 күн бұрын
His teams were efficient. 85 Lakers shot a blistering 54%!
@tonyrigatoni1705
@tonyrigatoni1705 4 жыл бұрын
That Hakeem video gonna hit
@ReidoFutebol98
@ReidoFutebol98 4 жыл бұрын
Hakeem is probably the best two way player ever.
@prometheus3498
@prometheus3498 4 жыл бұрын
Hakeem is ridiculously underrated.
@tonyrigatoni1705
@tonyrigatoni1705 4 жыл бұрын
@@ReidoFutebol98 I’m all for new basketball fans because I love the sport but the new guys will never understand just how dominant Hakeem was
@kingcam0775
@kingcam0775 4 жыл бұрын
@@ReidoFutebol98 Nah. He's the best defender out of the best two way players, but I would consider LeBron and Jordan both as legitimate two way top ten guys and both rank ahead of Hakeem overall.
@yd856
@yd856 4 жыл бұрын
GaiusJuly I neither are top 10 defenders. Hakeem is 2 after Bill.
@lukasmyers4554
@lukasmyers4554 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you do one of these on Charles Barkley, people only see him getting teased and stuff on TNT and don’t remember how good he was when he was playing
@cryptoforeveryone2689
@cryptoforeveryone2689 4 жыл бұрын
He was an absolute beast. And yup...ppl forget :(
@kennyboy6817
@kennyboy6817 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, but I'm fairly certain chuck won't make this series primarily because of his high volume shooting. In his greatest offensive players podcast, he did not rate chuck too high, mostly because Barkley was perhaps the worst high volume shooter of all time.
@lukasmyers4554
@lukasmyers4554 4 жыл бұрын
@@kennyboy6817 thanks for letting me know I didn’t hear the podcast
@ipwaihei2414
@ipwaihei2414 4 жыл бұрын
@@kennyboy6817 how was he high volume??? He was crazy efficient in his prime averaging like 55-60% field goal
@briancandler8636
@briancandler8636 4 жыл бұрын
@@ipwaihei2414 you could count his 3pt shooting. Worst 3pt shooter by percentage of anyone with at least 1000 attempts and most attempts of anyone under 30% 3pt FG%
@pancon5
@pancon5 3 жыл бұрын
Magic, Bird and MJ made the game so beautiful.
@darrellappling9276
@darrellappling9276 Ай бұрын
Best ever magic best guard ever
@EGarrett01
@EGarrett01 4 жыл бұрын
16:01 How have I never seen this highlight before?
@trvspvrk
@trvspvrk 4 жыл бұрын
That might be the most insane pass I ever seen
@nicolaterzaghi3542
@nicolaterzaghi3542 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought! I’ve watched literally dozens of 10+ minutes videos of his highlights and this is the first time seeing that ridiculous pass
@MassimoBolognaItaly
@MassimoBolognaItaly 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicolaterzaghi3542 you're right. Allthought I have seen that monster pass before in a few other videos, it is not included in most highlights videos about Magic. He was like dancing ... insane, crazy pass, it might well be the best pass ever by anyone.
@maxseale4133
@maxseale4133 4 жыл бұрын
Damn I would pay to see this on Netflix I love it so much
@Peter-hx3im
@Peter-hx3im 4 жыл бұрын
It makes me want to give to the patreon.
@lukeramer7702
@lukeramer7702 4 жыл бұрын
@@Peter-hx3im bad bot
@Peter-hx3im
@Peter-hx3im 4 жыл бұрын
@@lukeramer7702 what?
@mlkchannel5890
@mlkchannel5890 4 жыл бұрын
Rightttt
@TheSands83
@TheSands83 4 жыл бұрын
Dude please don’t get fooled by this guy.. he’s not to bright.. go watch detail.. it’s really good and it really shows you what’s really going on..
@stevenpadilla4294
@stevenpadilla4294 3 жыл бұрын
Greatest show on earth in the 80s. No higher form of entertainment than magic v bird. Never missed a gain. Wish i could still remember them.
@santinodellacroce2079
@santinodellacroce2079 3 жыл бұрын
his passing ability and being able to play every position 1 - 5 is legendary
@jaystarrio7629
@jaystarrio7629 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy to see the differences in offenses back then- where literally no one is outside the 3pt line
@1vaultdweller
@1vaultdweller Жыл бұрын
3 pt line was a new addition then and players simply didnt understand its value for like... 30 more years lol
@pep2st8p64
@pep2st8p64 3 жыл бұрын
Love the way you explain Magics greatness,,he's my favorite player ever,it was funny watching Magic do magic on the court.
@frankr111th
@frankr111th 4 жыл бұрын
I have been watching NBA ball since the early 70's. Magic is the only guy I've seen who could dominate a game while scoring 2points. I didn't see Russell in his prime but I understand he also could dominate while scoring very little.
@Getloose360
@Getloose360 3 жыл бұрын
I would add Jason Kidd to that list. 2000- 2004 J-Kidd was on some other ish akin to Magic
@razkable
@razkable 3 жыл бұрын
the closest guy is ben wallace i would say..he could score 2 get 20 rebs 5 blocks 2 steals and 2 assists and it would feel like he really changed the game just by being out there 39 minutes or whatever despite shooting 2-3 shots getting 4 fouls 2 turnovers and going 0-2 from the ft line...hard to talk about..you just had to watch him play..he was unique..if he was on the court for about a 6 year stretch there from 2001-2006 he made his team better period......ben could score 0 and still control a game circa 2003...it was odd...a 6-9 245 lb. center who was undrafted and had no offense for years and lacking skills on that end most his career...ben could just have a 0 point 0 assist 1-2 steal 3 block night but just by grabbing 15 rebs he felt like he made a big impact...he made sure bigs worked and he kept smaller guys away from the rim because they were scarred of him...period..
@domination4892
@domination4892 3 жыл бұрын
Dennis Rodman too
@SteelNight7
@SteelNight7 3 жыл бұрын
Ben Wallace. When he would start kicking it into high gear the pistons would go on defensive runs that completely shut down teams. I've watched games where Ben Wallace was such a defensive force he took over games the way some of the offensive greats do only he did it with blocks, steals, shot changes, taking charges. He would just run off a huge cluster of making things happen defensively and suddenly the Pistons were dominating the game instead of being down. Just noticed the post that Asmosis Jones put, so he beat me to it a month ago but I'm leaving this here.
@domination4892
@domination4892 3 жыл бұрын
@@SteelNight7 Same with guys like Dennis Rodman and Rudy Gobert
@williammccabe2895
@williammccabe2895 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite video in the series. I didn't realize how fun it was to watch Magic play. Literally laughing out loud at these plays
@springfieldbearpatrol2937
@springfieldbearpatrol2937 3 жыл бұрын
You can find dozens of good NBA players, in Magic’s height range, that can score - but do nothing else. Those players are a dime a dozen. Magic put passing and team-play first, and that made everyone better. Pat Riley was an absolute Xs and Os genius who brought out the best in Magic. He challenged Magic to be a leader in all categories of the game. If Magic had wanted to, I have no doubt he could have had several years scoring 25+ a game. But that would not have helped the team. Worth noting his career was cut short.
@encinobalboa
@encinobalboa 2 жыл бұрын
Remember when Kareem could not play game 6 in the 1980 Finals against the Sixers? Magic scored 42 and made it look easy. He could have averaged 30 if he wanted to but that was not his style.
@Andre-cl2qt
@Andre-cl2qt 2 жыл бұрын
People were too concerned about scoring but nothing else, but Magic changed that !
@bluegregory6239
@bluegregory6239 Жыл бұрын
The best passer in basketball history.
@natrix3759
@natrix3759 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the mention of James Worthy. One of my favorite players
@sonegreat
@sonegreat 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think I have clicked on a basketball video this fast since Game of Zones.
@ryubatsoy2268
@ryubatsoy2268 Жыл бұрын
Your attention to details are one of the best that I have seen in a basketball analysis
@stevehof
@stevehof 4 жыл бұрын
Constantly refreshing youtube every Monday to see if the next episode is out...
@Justice098
@Justice098 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was a kid watching Magic. His name was fitting because it was the greatest show on earth game night. I still enjoy watching his highlights.
@drichardbailey
@drichardbailey 3 жыл бұрын
That transition play at 4:09 is one of the smartest basketball situational reads I've ever seen. I've never not seen magic listed as 6'9 FWIW
@patchworky
@patchworky 4 жыл бұрын
best basketball channel on youtube, keep it up man!
@MerkinMuffly
@MerkinMuffly 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't hurt to have a top five ever player with the most unstoppable shot in history as your center.
@magichands135
@magichands135 3 жыл бұрын
And they had Jabbar too. Jokes aside, Worthy is in Jordan's starting 5, that has to account for something.
@mdl2jc
@mdl2jc 3 жыл бұрын
Take nothing away from Kareem but I believe Magic was the motor behind those teams. Their talents speak for themselves but Magic took those guys to another level. He really made folks better same as Bird/Zeke.
@FuShengAlex
@FuShengAlex 3 жыл бұрын
And he whined like a baby at MSU just to get in the driver's seat as a rookie. At least your hero Bird and some other greats were willing to go to less than favorable circumstances from the get go without hesitation.
@dimex3362
@dimex3362 3 жыл бұрын
Ye... and it doesnt hurt to have the best head coach ever as your head coach... everyone that is amongst the best had major help #stopthe excuses
@leonardoyi3183
@leonardoyi3183 3 жыл бұрын
to be fair, Kareem wasn't a top five player on the nba for most of magic career. I don't think jabbar was even the best center of the 80's, I consider moses malone to be the better center of the 80's.
@aidanl3137
@aidanl3137 4 жыл бұрын
The best series on KZbin
@TheSands83
@TheSands83 4 жыл бұрын
A guy who said off ball passer? 🤣 dude this shit is really really bad
@michaelulbricht9438
@michaelulbricht9438 3 жыл бұрын
His game 6 performance in the finals when he played center and scored 42 points, grabbed 15 rebounds, & dished out 7 assists is still awe inspiring!
@michaelulbricht9438
@michaelulbricht9438 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to add for years after he entered the NBA teams still were looking for another 6'9" point guard with Magic's skills. We've yet to find one.
@daredevil8179
@daredevil8179 3 жыл бұрын
Played centre? You mean he did the jump ball at the beginning!
@michaelulbricht9438
@michaelulbricht9438 3 жыл бұрын
@@daredevil8179 Yes, he played the entire game at center from the opening tip on. He was only 20 years old. A legendary performance!
@daredevil8179
@daredevil8179 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelulbricht9438 So he didnt bring up the ball he played in the low post and inbounded the ball etc ?
@michaelulbricht9438
@michaelulbricht9438 3 жыл бұрын
@@daredevil8179 Just look up game #6 1980 NBA finals and there are plenty of videos on the game. He played kind of a point center. He won the opening tip over a 7 foot Caldwell Jones, and also threw in a number of baby sky hooks while scoring 42 points. Truly one of the greatest individual championship performances ever!
@chrisbo3493
@chrisbo3493 2 жыл бұрын
His smile and visible joy to play makes him so positively unique among the best. His Rookie season with the hugging of Kareem after the first win and his MVP center performance in the 1980 NBA Finals make him my personal GOAT of heart even if MJ in sum is better.
@chrislombardi3968
@chrislombardi3968 3 жыл бұрын
Not a word about "leadership"? This is the deep magic of Magic. He elevated everyone's game on the court. So often he didn't take shots that he could easily make in order to pass to a teammate and pump their confidence and get them into the game. He kept the energy high, encouraging players, chiding players in a positive way, stepping in and taking control when the game was slipping away. NOONE has taken command of a team the way the Magic man did.
@swageyamatobiyolo8068
@swageyamatobiyolo8068 3 жыл бұрын
it's a film study and stats channel, i wouldn't expect many discussions about leadership and other narrative-driven skills on here
@jacobreeves3110
@jacobreeves3110 2 жыл бұрын
His editing is superb. Great script, great stats. Just awesome critiques.
@T.H.E.O.R.Y.
@T.H.E.O.R.Y. 4 жыл бұрын
I love your understanding, appreciation, and promotion of the understanding of the *nuances* of the game because the game is rife with it. Magic may not have been a volume scorers but he scored nearly 20 a game, which is the unstated baseline for all great scorers. However, he *could* score and efficiently because he was virtually unstoppable on the break. In that regard he's like the inverse corollary to Bill Russell: a low volume but inefficient scorer relative to all time position and history. All this without even watching the whole vid yet. Will pop in after to give my final thoughts.
@svlemm9794
@svlemm9794 4 жыл бұрын
“oversized johnson” “drive it straight down your throat” ayo?
@ashilpatel5456
@ashilpatel5456 4 жыл бұрын
Biggest thing I learned from this video is how much magic loves a fist pump
@willhooke
@willhooke 4 жыл бұрын
GOAT fist pumper? 🤔
@15lesson
@15lesson 3 жыл бұрын
Not really. He just happened to be always winning😉
@oregonguy13
@oregonguy13 3 жыл бұрын
Then you need to learn to pay attention
@brysonsinonda7293
@brysonsinonda7293 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Magic played in today's league in his prime. He would be a perfect position less player, probably would average a triple double
@jasonbournesburner3845
@jasonbournesburner3845 3 жыл бұрын
probably? plzz, HE WOULD AND A HIGH ONE AT THAT.
@razkable
@razkable 3 жыл бұрын
he would be luka...
@SteelNight7
@SteelNight7 3 жыл бұрын
Only question would be his rebounding. Points and assists would be very easy for him to average a double double on in todays league. His lack of physicality and leaping ability would probably give him a rebounding average shy of 10.
@alx767
@alx767 2 жыл бұрын
But if that would happened we have to remember that nowadays players like magic can't be touched, he would have more liberty, in past years at least with hand check they slowed him down, even tho you don't notice.
@truthiscensored
@truthiscensored 2 жыл бұрын
@@SteelNight7 You don't get rebounds off of leaping ability, it is all about position...also that leaping to get rebound will get you called for "Over the back" real quick
@DomClancy
@DomClancy 3 жыл бұрын
After the Jordan Doc and exempting vintage SB Rosenthal Beef History,, this is probably the best content on basketball out there. Bravo
@JohnDeWill
@JohnDeWill 4 жыл бұрын
Please do one about D-Wade! Love the series and the channel in general!
@jaredhyatt537
@jaredhyatt537 3 жыл бұрын
This video is a year old and I’m still watching it again. Great content!
@Edd1e8
@Edd1e8 3 жыл бұрын
The TIMING of Magic’s passes is something very overlooked. Worthy explained this on a Lakers roundtable show. It’s just as important to get the ball in stride or in rhythm. They used Kurt Rambis as an example when he’d receive the ball underneath. Split second too early or late, he’s going to travel or get it blocked. He also got the ball to guys like Jamal Wilkes exactly where they wanted it.
@josiahjohnson375
@josiahjohnson375 2 жыл бұрын
as a 90s baby I missed this era by quite a bit. thank you for explaining his greatness over video while detailing his traits
@ljlawver
@ljlawver 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid about a truly great playmaker. Magic and Birds court vision were the best. They made passing as exciting as scoring. Bird has to be the all time assist leader, as far as making them from the seat of his pants.
@treystyles3760
@treystyles3760 Жыл бұрын
This is the man who made me love basketball, I'll never forget in '83, even tho Lakers lost, Magic wowed my 7 year old self. Compared to how everybody else passed, I really thought he was doing magic... After watching over 40 years of basketball and playing I now realize... He WAS doing MAGIC✨✨
@chester7222
@chester7222 4 жыл бұрын
11:22 who turned a +2 regular season offence into +11 in the playoffs? That’s an insane jump
@pursuer24
@pursuer24 4 жыл бұрын
95 rockets possibly?
@MM-bx1ei
@MM-bx1ei 4 жыл бұрын
@@pursuer24 It's a 5 year stretch, not a single season, which makes it crazier.
@jordanrioscreations
@jordanrioscreations Жыл бұрын
The moral is you don’t have to be the most athletic just have to know how to maximize how well you use your body, there’s such an art to protecting the ball and drawing contact while also being aware of everything happening on the court. Great video!
@ruchpat1
@ruchpat1 4 жыл бұрын
Magic Johnson is the greatest point guard in nba history.
@NewEraaG
@NewEraaG 3 жыл бұрын
After seeing this it’s confirmed that Steph Curry is the greatest point guard of all time
@skdkdn9142
@skdkdn9142 3 жыл бұрын
@@NewEraaG cap still magic Steph can’t win without his bitchass super team and he’s not even a proper point he’s an undersized sg who was forced to play pg to get his draft stock up compared to the other greats at the pg position he’s pretty average at playmaking
@reginaldpeters5142
@reginaldpeters5142 3 жыл бұрын
@@NewEraaG nope you're wrong.
@jasonbournesburner3845
@jasonbournesburner3845 3 жыл бұрын
@@NewEraaG pfft that was funny. Steph nowhere near the best pg. Steph can never pass like that. Magic control games WITHOUT volume scoring and the scary about it is. Magic if he wanted to. could avg 29-12-10 for his career. Steph was a better scorer and that's about it Magic much better passer, rebounder, blocker, and steals. Magic was a better winner, better vision and he has more titles at 5 for 9. More MVPs Name me one player who won in his first year a chip? don't worry we won't wait. Magic is the GOAT OF PG. www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/stephen_curry_vs_magic_johnson.htm
@joeltorre2200
@joeltorre2200 3 жыл бұрын
@@NewEraaG Fuck off casual. Magic never had a losing season in his career. Even with an old Jabbar and an old team, he still won MVP's and led the Lakers to the playoffs and finals. Kobe couldnt do it. Steph definitely is a scrub right now without KD and Klay. But low key, Steph is the 3rd best pg behind the GOAT pg MAgic and the Big O.
@aurianna123
@aurianna123 2 жыл бұрын
This breakdown is nothing short of incredible..To say appreciate it ,is a major understatement
@maxk6780
@maxk6780 4 жыл бұрын
Love this series! Keep it up
@bigJNY
@bigJNY 3 жыл бұрын
This man is the blueprint for today of what we now know as Lebron and Giannis (and a few others, but these 2 are the most notable comparison to what Magic did in the past)
@jlrob85
@jlrob85 3 жыл бұрын
Magic is my GOAT PG and my starter on my best team ever
@Mzee1084
@Mzee1084 3 жыл бұрын
Best Basketball channel by far. You give very good, and in depth analysis, and don't just come across as another commentator that just rehashes the same stuff over and over like everyone else.
@TheRealKevLarDaDon
@TheRealKevLarDaDon 4 жыл бұрын
"Offense wins games. Defense wins championships." -Julius Caesar (circa 2002)
@dicethenicest1
@dicethenicest1 3 жыл бұрын
Jason kidd used to push like this as well, relentless on make and misses and constantly put pressure on defenses
@ej11481
@ej11481 3 жыл бұрын
Magic was really ahead of his time. The lack of spacing in '80s basketball often limited what he could do out of halfcourt sets. He'd put up monster numbers in a modern pace-and-space offense.
@truthiscensored
@truthiscensored 2 жыл бұрын
actually Spacing would hurt his game. Players like Magic need players constantly moving, setting and coming off picks to confuse the defense so he can make the pass for easy lay-ups Spacing the floor is NOT good basketball and it turn great creative players into catch and shoot/ spot up shooter... Look at Lebron offensive system, James Worthy would suck in that catch and shoot style
@ej11481
@ej11481 2 жыл бұрын
@@truthiscensored Disagree. It's easy to see how Nash, CP3, Trae, Luka and other great PGs of the modern era have benefited from superior spacing. Magic would have too. Also, shooters don't have to be stationary. Guys like Steph, Klay, Hield, Duncan Robinson, etc. do a lot of damage moving off the ball and popping free thanks to back screens. And they can attack close-outs or cut to the rim occasionally too.
@creatorsremose
@creatorsremose Жыл бұрын
If I may be so bold to compliment an odd aspect of this brilliant series... the music. The NBA had become synonymous with the most vile specimen of prison music in the last 20 odd years, which I loathe with a passion. Your series sporting (no pun intended) fantastic Synthwave is a perfect complement to these brilliant videos. Thank you again!
@lnd1998
@lnd1998 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about his breakdowns is how he includes misses off elite finds. I hate that it’s not a highlight if there’s not a make like it’s stupid because the elite guys like bron harden luka cp and others have so many crazy passes and finds that end up misses but are still poetry in motion and should still be seen by millions in highlight form
@JasonWindsor88
@JasonWindsor88 4 жыл бұрын
I know it’s been said many times but I’m officially going to concur: this is the best basketball analysis channel on KZbin
@BLKBKLN
@BLKBKLN 4 жыл бұрын
That pass at the 16:00 mark is pure Magic.
@castilloricky85
@castilloricky85 4 жыл бұрын
I swear you are the GOAT basketball channel.
@Peter-hx3im
@Peter-hx3im 4 жыл бұрын
So nice you said it twice.
@darrellappling9276
@darrellappling9276 Ай бұрын
LeBron James ain't nothing never be magic he killed the 8:15
@darrellappling9276
@darrellappling9276 Ай бұрын
Magic is goat
@Loris71734
@Loris71734 4 жыл бұрын
The best thing to ever happen on mondays. Edit: The Converse Weapon commercial killed me lmao
@lupodelupis3672
@lupodelupis3672 2 жыл бұрын
Magic was a huge unresolved riddle for every NBA defense. With a basket IQ off the charts, perfect fundamentals, and his 6'9, he destroyed the opponents....but with a shining smile 😁
@wc4201
@wc4201 4 жыл бұрын
Man I miss those bird vs Magic days. I felt bird was better overall by the slightest of margins but saying Magic wasn’t as good as Bird just doesn’t sound right. I still remember seeing that baby hook in the clutch in the 87 finals. Magic was a man on a mission and wouldn’t be denied. Straight boss. Love your analytics!!
@loo0oop
@loo0oop 2 жыл бұрын
Magic was slightly better than bird….in the intangibles, i mean….leadership (magic is a true 4-star general, bird is a 3-star), galvanizing the troops, & his playmaking (he made every1 better & involved)……sorry im an military veteran….lol
@wc4201
@wc4201 2 жыл бұрын
@@loo0oop hard to argue against your opinion. I feel bird was better mainly due to the clutch factor and his scoring ability while being a really good passer, rebounder and underrated defender. Magic was also really good and I can see how many people would take Magic over bird as he too was clutch AF and the best floor general of all time. Magics ability to keep everyone on that 87 lakers team fed and happy was amazing.
@loo0oop
@loo0oop 2 жыл бұрын
@@wc4201 bird & magic wer equally clutch….magic was just more “funky” with his game winning shots….lol… bird was a better shooter, no doubt….better “scorer”….idk…..we havent had a big sample size for magic….but there was that one season magic lead the league in scoring….for a point guard! He won league mvp back to back for that….only steve nash matched that…in league history….only 2 point guards did that….winning b2b mvps….lol At the end of the day, bird & magic’s rivalry MATCH jordan’s goat status…..these 2 on their own dont match jordan’s goat title….but “together” they match it & maybe exceed it…. bird & magic are the best to me….just magic slighly more to me….bird slightly more for u….👍 its all gud, brutha…nothing but respect for bird, larry legend….just dont 4get the respect for the magic man too lol…
@jamiahwilson3901
@jamiahwilson3901 Жыл бұрын
What i love about Basketball is that every single person to ever pick up the Ball have their own unique style that your never see once they put the ball down for good..Appreciate Greatness once its gone its gone.
@MindfulAttraction
@MindfulAttraction 4 жыл бұрын
Do Kevin McHale. I think he's the most underrated player in the '80s and in general
@MindfulAttraction
@MindfulAttraction 4 жыл бұрын
Or Bernard King. Either of those two guys. They were the most efficient scores of the '80s
@carusohighlightreel4275
@carusohighlightreel4275 4 жыл бұрын
Also ‘04 Kevin Garnett needs to be done soon!
@TTFMjock
@TTFMjock 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe for a Patreon donation.
@CarbonComs
@CarbonComs 4 жыл бұрын
@@carusohighlightreel4275 I'm almost positive that KG is coming up in this series once we get to the 2000s.
@carusohighlightreel4275
@carusohighlightreel4275 4 жыл бұрын
@@CarbonComs Ah true, it’s in chronological order. That means Jordan is probably next, then D Rob or Hakeem. I’m most excited for KG and Curry’s tho!
@donaldpriola1807
@donaldpriola1807 2 жыл бұрын
One thing you touch on is how underrated he was as a ball handler. He's one of the better at the position, even if he wasn't fancy with his dribble, it was always perfect, and exactly where it needed to be.
@brrryyyy
@brrryyyy 4 жыл бұрын
Right on time while taking my break from work 👌
@Mr.Wilcox87
@Mr.Wilcox87 3 жыл бұрын
Some people choose Jordan, some choose Lebron.... but Magic is my goat!!!! and has been since I was born "in 87"..... Thanks Pop!!!
@mdl2jc
@mdl2jc 3 жыл бұрын
These clips are great! Hopefully you do one on Isiah Thomas. Greatest small man/pure PG ever!
@Solitude102
@Solitude102 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are a step above most other NBA channels. Amazing content.
@masterGAWK9
@masterGAWK9 3 жыл бұрын
This post unintentionally confirms that Magic is the creator of the "Euro" step.
@tengen3613
@tengen3613 3 жыл бұрын
There's also a rumor that he created the high five.
@lawrencejahanfar2957
@lawrencejahanfar2957 3 жыл бұрын
Stop it Elgin Baylor created the euro
@brandonarnold5322
@brandonarnold5322 4 жыл бұрын
The For Real GOAT!! I heard that a Great Coach said if you want to know how to play Basketball....Study Magic Johnson!! Period!!
@JamesJackson-oo7sj
@JamesJackson-oo7sj 4 жыл бұрын
Magic could've scored 30 a game but chose to be the greatest passer of all time instead
@willhooke
@willhooke 4 жыл бұрын
He did everything well 👍 Even added a Jumper as time went by
@MikeJones-lg4xn
@MikeJones-lg4xn 4 жыл бұрын
No
@andrewm7351
@andrewm7351 4 жыл бұрын
@@MikeJones-lg4xn the guy once averaged 23.9 points on crazy 52% shooting while still leading the league in assists with 12.2 in 86-87. Of course he could of scored 6 more points per game that season if he shot more and passed less
@niceasf7038
@niceasf7038 4 жыл бұрын
Not 30, but it could’ve easily been like 25
@Josh-sk5xd
@Josh-sk5xd 4 жыл бұрын
@@niceasf7038 You put Magic in today’s era with today’s rules he’s averaging a TD and would be a wayyyy better version of Lebron. He would also be a wayyy better scorer then Lebron as well! Lebron is highly overrated!
@DFWTB9506
@DFWTB9506 5 ай бұрын
1:50 “to stop the oversized Johnson” 😂😂
@t-god2439
@t-god2439 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for that kg episode
@kingcam0775
@kingcam0775 4 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the order is going to be: Jordan, Barkley, Hakeem, Robinson, Malone, Shaq, Duncan, Garnett, Kobe, LeBron, Paul, Durant, Curry, Westbrook, Harden.
@jacopopispola9925
@jacopopispola9925 4 жыл бұрын
@@kingcam0775 He's not going to do Russ and Paul, he already skipped Doctor J and Moses Malone and Westbrookisn't better than them, but he'll maybe do Nash, Dirk and Miller beacuse he always shows appreciation to this kind of players
@bartkeller8994
@bartkeller8994 4 жыл бұрын
This comment has been deleted because of my misunderstanding :)
@davispo7550
@davispo7550 4 жыл бұрын
@@bartkeller8994 As in the order of release
@kingcam0775
@kingcam0775 4 жыл бұрын
@@bartkeller8994 it's the release order.
@seanmcclure
@seanmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
If you did not grow up in this era and watched it happen live you really can’t understand the amazement you felt seeing somebody do what he did.
@MeechYaboy
@MeechYaboy 4 жыл бұрын
The thing you gotta appreciate about playing with magic was that the ball was always ontime
@XanderXel91
@XanderXel91 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not entertaining any goat conversations with anyone unless I know theyve watched this series. It's the most in depth, unbiased, factual, statistic based but also eye test based analysis of basketball players I've ever seen. Can't wait for LeBron's video.
@darrelljones3965
@darrelljones3965 4 жыл бұрын
Magic handle was soo tight he had the ball on a string frfr
@2kmichaeljordan438
@2kmichaeljordan438 3 жыл бұрын
Why are you saying fr to yourself, that’s some shit from “psycho”
@darrelljones3965
@darrelljones3965 3 жыл бұрын
@@2kmichaeljordan438 man stfu
@harrishoward5924
@harrishoward5924 2 жыл бұрын
Great piece that shows magics great flashy skill level at 6 9. Some of the in depth look highlights you present are staggering in that they show the inordinate skill Magic had at seeing the whole court including the opponents eyes. When he had the ball he could do everything at once. Players seem to not be able to count and dribble now days in terms of basketball.
@cyrillesu
@cyrillesu 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh, imagine the '87 Lakers in today's game. They'd be dropping 150 every night.
@jasonbournesburner3845
@jasonbournesburner3845 3 жыл бұрын
hell yeah, and thats on avg. what about on a hot night..200!
@kevinbunn7915
@kevinbunn7915 3 жыл бұрын
and anybody who says they couldn't because they didn't shoot a lot of 3s is full of shit. We don't even know how many threes they would've made if they played today. They had shooters though.
@kibabalefobaki9725
@kibabalefobaki9725 3 жыл бұрын
Lol 150 every night? Lol💀
@alx767
@alx767 2 жыл бұрын
With today"s defense I have to agree.
@truthiscensored
@truthiscensored 2 жыл бұрын
With all the long 3 pt misses in today's game they would probably average 175. Those long misses, along with all the celebrating after a made shot plays right into Lakers Fastbreak and 4 second shot (Reason they took the ball out so quick after made baskets like in the video)
@shottashabazz6721
@shottashabazz6721 2 жыл бұрын
Even in college he had magic. He played two steps ahead of everybody when he played in college and when he transitioned to the pros his ability to attack the defense whether scoring or passing didn’t change. On of the greatest basketball players in history.
@boldus9293
@boldus9293 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite player ever❤️
@youngkevinjay
@youngkevinjay 2 жыл бұрын
I’m honestly obsessed with your channel
@Raj.Sakaria
@Raj.Sakaria 4 жыл бұрын
5:04 “This Guard”, Poor Isaiah Thomas
@kickin477
@kickin477 4 жыл бұрын
Always nice to watch this for refresher and then go watch next week’s on Patreon
@yd856
@yd856 4 жыл бұрын
The biggest “what if” in NBA history is what if Magic Johnson wore a condom.
@EmacMac-ph2zd
@EmacMac-ph2zd 4 жыл бұрын
Biggest conspiracy in NBA history was them making us believe he had AIDS.
@bepe4279
@bepe4279 4 жыл бұрын
@@EmacMac-ph2zd what would be the truth?
@glint6070
@glint6070 4 жыл бұрын
@@EmacMac-ph2zd Tinfoil hat detected 😴
@Blunder03
@Blunder03 4 жыл бұрын
@@EmacMac-ph2zd Right, how could a man who participated in group sex possibly get an STD I wonder?
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 4 жыл бұрын
@@Blunder03 By having group sex with people who were free of stds? Was that a purposely stupid question?
@michaelharder3055
@michaelharder3055 Жыл бұрын
This series blow my mind. Amazing analysis
@MindfulAttraction
@MindfulAttraction 4 жыл бұрын
I still think bird was better. But magic is not far off.
@Sdee179
@Sdee179 4 жыл бұрын
debatable
@MindfulAttraction
@MindfulAttraction 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sdee179 I know. I don't mind if you pick magic or bird.all I can say is that bird was three times all defensive team. I think that makes the difference. But I don't mind if you pick magic.
@willhooke
@willhooke 4 жыл бұрын
Bird was better, imo Johnson was the leader of a better team This makes Johnson look like a superior player Swap Bird for Johnson and I think it would be Larry with more rings 💯 And people would think he's much better
@Sdee179
@Sdee179 4 жыл бұрын
@@willhooke nah magic had a post prime Kareem and James worthy however bird had Kevin mcHale and Robert parish who both play in the interior so bird could play around them in the mid range and long range and bird had great role players just look at the 91 final magic had to play against a prime mj with little to know help with pipen guarding him
@willhooke
@willhooke 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sdee179 regarding the 91 finals I'm not convinced the Bulls would have won if Worthy and Scott hadn't been injured Worthy would have spoiled the Bulls plan of putting Pippen on Johnson (the Bulls had another big Wing on Johnson, who also did a great job, no one mentions him and I've forgotten his name - lol!) But injuries are part of the game too, so fair play to the Bulls 💯
@raymondsmith8027
@raymondsmith8027 3 жыл бұрын
Just discovered this channel today!!! WOW!! As a basketball junkie, I've been seriously missing out!!!
@jugbrewer
@jugbrewer 4 жыл бұрын
After watching this video and the Larry Bird one, I don’t really get how almost everyone has Magic above Bird on their all time list. Bird was all defense, the best shooter of his era, in the same league as Magic with his passing, lethal in the half court and transition, and an excellent rebounder. Even though he has fewer rings he was able to beat every other superstar of his era in the playoffs and won 3 straight MVPs. I’m surprised it’s almost been unanimously decided that Magic was better. It seems like it should be way more even, and I personally would give the slightest edge to Bird.
@williamkoscielniak820
@williamkoscielniak820 4 жыл бұрын
I've felt that way forever. Bird's injuries and the injuries and deaths of his teammates decimated the Celtics after '87 while the Lakers just kept on rolling. That and the fact that Magic has two more rings and beat him 2-1 in the finals seems to be the reason. So it's mostly narrative. At the time most people had Bird over magic as it was pretty damned visible who the better player was when both were healthy.
@Thanosdidtherighthing
@Thanosdidtherighthing 4 жыл бұрын
Rings
@rollotomasi4045
@rollotomasi4045 4 жыл бұрын
I remember Magic was able to post up and score against legit 6'10" power forwards like Horace Grant and Cliff Robinson on switches. So, imagine Magic towering over guards in the post during his era, and he happens to be the greatest passer ever. It was always a huge mismatch when the opposing guards had to guard Magic and that's what made him such a unicorn during his day. Unless a team has a young in his prime Pippen without the playoff mileage, there was no one who could slow Magic down back in the day because he was too big and strong for guards/wings and too quick and crafty for bigs. And Bird (who was a natural 4) was able to post up and muscle traditional wings. And bigs could never keep up with him when he started running around curls and routes for catch and shoot opportunities. And Bird was always moving around on defense since McHale and Parish were there to provide rim protection. And he was able to make plays accordingly. So all in all, Bird had more all-around skills as a scorer and was better off ball, but Magic was a bigger mismatch at his position and was better on-ball. It's pretty much even all things considered.
@jugbrewer
@jugbrewer 4 жыл бұрын
@jaydexe if that's the case then I'd probably put Tim Duncan over Magic
@jugbrewer
@jugbrewer 4 жыл бұрын
@@rollotomasi4045 thanks for the explanation. I wasn't around back then so I unfortunately missed out on seeing the nuance
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