How Many Bad Albums Before Giving Up On An Artist? | AskDEHH w/ Sophie

In this new Ask DEHH episode we were asked: How many bad albums does an artist get away with before we lose hope on their music? Be sure to let us know your take in the comment section.
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[@DuncanUdaho67]

LMAO. They hate Big Sean so much they had to have a long text debate on if they should review it or not? I'm dead.

[@Joela393]

dallashood67 so pointless lol

[@frankhaggar97]

dallashood67 Dark Sky Paradise and I Decided showed Big Sean had grown more as an artist and a person, but I guess some still see him as corny and so on.

[@devonteMdavis]

dallashood67 at least they found it worthy to text back and forth about

[@lakiog1938]

frankhaggar97 ...its rly depressing Big Sean is actually dope

[@kratosgow2]

S7at Blakk LMFAO

[@WoozyYami]

1 bad album- disappointment, hope for the next to be good 2 bad albums- fear sets in, excitement for next album minimal. 3 bad albums- pretty much a guarantee I won't listen to the next album, unless it's an artist who has some serious classics. 4 bad albums- I would have to be told by someone that a future album is super dope to check it out.

[@kidbino8120]

Immediately thought of Cudi when I got the notification :(

[@mageIIan]

KidBino same lol

[@chiefmiyagi9802]

I thought the same

[@kidbino8120]

Chief Miyagi SBTH is his only his bad album imo , indicud was painfully mediocre doe

[@chiefmiyagi9802]

***** true. He went from a kid named cudi, then motm1&2, then the drop came after that

[@musiq3109]

KidBino yup first thought was kid cudi. and i gave up

[@lurkingsoldi2107]

I want to see the long text message debate regarding Big Sean- I Decided

[@ChillCollins92]

Lurking Seal lol me too

[@urineanxiety]

to be honest, i'd take that over the video

[@supernintendochalmers1948]

gross guy I'm gay and if anyone has a problem with Big Sean they have a problem with me which makes anyone who hates on Big Sean a homophobe

[@urineanxiety]

Harold Jones nobody cares

[@JonConstruct]

I love Modest's messages at the beginning of the video.

[@ModestMediaTube]

Jon Construct appreciate it!

[@allenhenderson6138]

+tainty b get the ringtone😂

[@jaimemartinez7122]

Why Big Sean gotta be the Guinea Pig for hip hop? He not that bad he got some lackluster songs I admit, but is far from trash.

[@myname8635]

Jaime Martinez true

[@aaronperry445]

Jaime Martinez I agree. His album was okay.

[@BenjerminGaye]

he's average. that's why.

[@SYMShutYoMouth]

He is whack as fuck. His lines are terrible. All he has is beat selection. Big Sean is the definition of whack lmao.

[@manny24lal]

He's so painfully average

[@Joela393]

0 albums. Artists can surprisingly progress within time. Like look at Mac miller old stuff. I would have given up on him until 2013 when he started to mature and progress as a rapper.

[@chiefmiyagi9802]

CJ alicéa before macadellic I didn't like him, but macadellic and after that, I'm a fan

[@DreDaDon16]

CJ alicéa Mac is white Big Sean for me boring voice boring flow but his beats are amazing unlike Sean's

[@GhostMikey0]

I feel you exactly, his whole style change with WMWTSO made me a huge Mac fan.

[@Historicutuber]

CJ alicéa well said

[@myles6917]

CJ alicéa faces is a masterpiece. good am is amazing

[@EB5005]

Wiz Khalifa has never had a good album....Kush and OJ his best work..ever

[@TheAudazity]

shotput4life facts

[@tobieolson242]

shotput4life Rolling Papers, ONIFC, and Blacc Hollywood are all fire wtf

[@marcdoesmusics]

Tobie Olson nah fam those are all hot garbage.

[@FrancoisDressler]

Tobie Olson All dogshit

[@MiLLz830]

flight school...

[@WhoaNellyJake]

Whoa...Lupe's Tetsuo and Youth was great.

[@TypoDan]

they all liked it when it came out, but there was a run of bad albums in between

[@Historicutuber]

WhoaNellyJake damn str8

[@Paperbagman555]

Is it? Tbh I listened to that album once or twice and never returned. I remember his lyrics and flows being fire but don't remember the production being special at all.

[@TheEnigmaticBM39]

TypoDan such as what? Lasers ? Or FAL2:TGARA?

[@franknitti100]

Paperbagman555 you're sleeping

[@davidcamino713]

Drake: "Yea.....turn the 9 upside down it becomes a 6.....yea......yea.." Drake fans: "😱😱🔥🔥🔥"

[@Christopher._M]

Hahaha I want to smack them sometimes but it wouldn't be worth the effort

[@oglesbytimothy11]

Sophie looks gorgeous as always btw

[@sodipap8786]

Tim the Gambino Stan soft ass boi

[@oglesbytimothy11]

Trenton bc I compliment a woman lmao? you sound like a dumb ass nigga

[@sodipap8786]

Tim the Gambino Stan I'm joking fam she cute af

[@Rapsvalzod]

Tim the Gambino Stan I'm telling your girlfriend Tim... ⚰⚰⚰

[@oglesbytimothy11]

Jeremy Brown lmaooooo bro she watches these videos with me

[@wupize]

is it a coincidence the title is "How Many Bad Albums Before Giving Up On An Artist?" and they give the update they're reviewing big sean new album in the beginning of the video???

[@urineanxiety]

ye

[@deedizeldafreak]

wupize his only bad album honestly is hall of fame

[@thagemiini2531]

DeeDiZeL Finally Famous is terrible too. Dark Sky and I Decided are his best thus far.

[@deedizeldafreak]

Dichotomy finally famous I think was pretty decent , admit it, it at least had better production than hall of fame.

[@Jon155mt]

Dichotomy People actually like I Decided? How bruh? I just don't get it. I liked DSP, but ID is horrible imo

[@usernameof5]

Review Migos, it will be Ken and Myke's favorite album of the year

[@justpaul6949]

Jamo Say No "Shit bumps in the whip" Feefo

[@tronxcat001yt9]

Just Paul fefo would t know what to expect

[@sodipap8786]

Jamo Say No I like it tbh for a trap album

[@FANKANable]

I feel like you don't know Myke's taste at all.

[@vriggin56]

FANKANable he was joking

[@jaimemartinez7122]

Never give up on an artist look at Common. Hip Hop almost threw in the towel with him, never know when they have a "Be" album that might surprise you.

[@legalcake6125]

this discussion boutta be lit

[@alexlara4424]

well drake had about 20 bad album and he still popular

[@usernameof5]

He had one bad album

[@duncansiror5033]

alex lara People treat Drake just as much pop as hip hop so it's different.

[@mageIIan]

Jamo Say No True, Nothing Was The Same was ass. All his other albums are about or above average.

[@usernameof5]

N I K E NWTS is great, Views is the ass album

[@mageIIan]

Raisean W Tuscan Leather and Pound Cake are the only two tracks I fuck with off NWTS, everything else was ass IMO.

[@Punjabispitta]

Nas and Lupe both went through this in a parallel way, 2 great albums (Illmatic + IWW/ F&L + The Cool), 2 ehh albums (Nastradamus + I Am/ Lasers + F&L 2), then they both came back with some of the best work of their careers (Stillmatic +T&Y)

[@Fr3shTiger]

Harnoor Singh that's cool thinking

[@kooleyBear]

I think at the least F&L2 was good. I think the biggest issue with that is the reason they all agreed on. The placement of the three love songs close together messes up the albums flow. But apart from that the songs are really good and some damn great. I am interested to hear Drogas Light in full and see the response of others.

[@Punjabispitta]

kooleyBear Yeah F&L 2 was pretty good imo too. On popular opinion most people weren't vibing with it, but I think for only half of an album, F&L 2 pt 1 was real nice, one of my favorite Lupe projects.

[@kooleyBear]

I am glad you are aware that this was half of what he was planning to do. And the one song he dropped from F&L2 pt 2 Atomic Misphilosphy has me wanting to know what the rest sounds like.

[@Leodoesthings23]

l l yeah I was gonna say. I am. is great

[@20DollarGoldPiece]

I dropped off B.o.B

[@edwordturner8484]

MK ULTRA SOLDIER II aye all them elements mixtapes slap tho

[@resurrectedplayer7746]

MK ULTRA SOLDIER II B.o.B wasn't good to begin with.

[@AboudiObeidi]

no he dropped himself off because the earth is flat

[@hueyx791]

Edword Turner thank you! Wasn't too big a fan before those but earth,wind,fire and water all dope projects Ppl sleep

[@duncansiror5033]

MK ULTRA SOLDIER II That was painful for me. B.o.B used to be my favorite artist, not necessarily as a rapper, but as an artist period. The Adventures of Bobby Ray was the first CD I ever bought along with How I Got Over. I figured he was a little corny but still talented and interesting. Even felt that the comparisons to Andre 3000 were justified. I really enjoyed the No Genre mixtape and I went back and listened to his older stuff. I even went to Grad Bash at Universal Studios just to see him perform. But after the Strange Clouds album and other projects I quit. The pop rap mix was no longer appealing. Hated the song with Taylor Swift. Then it's like he was doing trap music almost. I was very disappointed.

[@BlackHood_1]

this is big Sean in print

[@bigdr33gtst]

i think dmx fell off around grand champ. that was his 5th album. the great depression was dope.

[@christophersheppard9825]

Dark Fantasy, Graduation, 808's, College Dropout and Late Regeneration .. Are all great classic records, so I will forever check for Kanye..

[@kylejeboss1469]

Dehh convo > dehh reviews

[@mykectown]

I agree! Tell the rest of these guys that shit!

[@Leviathanrko]

only because everyone's reaction to the albums on whether they like it or not is super obvious except for myke. He stays an unsolvable enigma so i just check the reviews for his input.

[@prodigy2244]

I'd love to hear longer discussions from them rather than just 15-30 min videos cuz I love their opinionated statements

[@afrozentric9532]

Busta Rhymes had 2 classic albums and a bunch of mediocre albums

[@MarkanVaran7]

it's debatable busta has one classic album and you say he has 2 lol

[@PesterFester1966]

The Coming, When disaster strikes, E.L.E..... Fuck the rest.

[@MrKing8050]

it all depends on who releases the album Nas is the perfect example during the late 90s

[@_hub]

Ill never give up on lil wayne, hes had some great features despite a handful of shitty projects

[@958FaizanKhan]

Nahom Kinfu ill never give up on wayne too his still better then most rappers today anyway?

[@stuartkeating6508]

I feel like with Eminem, it's kinda a weird situation. His rapping has been top notch in terms of world play, rhyme scheme, punchlines (for some people). And so for that reason, there is always a potential he'll release a great album. He just needs better beats and hooks. He's friends with Dr Dre, and Dj Premier right??? It can't be that hard for him

[@Paperbagman555]

It's not about just about beats and hooks; he's probably run out of stuff to rap about. I don't blame him either - everyone peaks at some point. Em had three great albums when he was young, hungry and emotional. He had lots to say because he hadn't released much material and had lots of tension in his life. Some musicians get better with age, most don't I feel. It's hard for a musician in their 40s to recapture that magic and tension that made us fall in love with them. His new punchlines suck by the way, whoever thinks they're good sets the bar very low.

[@majinkaaz]

Eminem had great albums, but Marshal mathers 2 wasn't that good to me imo only a couple of song were enjoyable. Relapse was ok, but I can see why people wouldn't like it. I like Recovery quite a lot tbh. I just want him to rap like his older albums, this aggressive screaming style gets tiring to listen to especially if it's like that damn near every song.

[@MarkanVaran7]

problem with MMLP2 was that it had some bad production and hooks were straight wack

[@thagemiini2531]

I think it's safe to say that 2Pac's living discography and OutKast's discography are the most untouchable.

[@TheAceXSatan]

Damn, Eminem has the most intriguing catalogue. I mean, it's interesting to see the crests & troughs of his career. Starts off with Infinite, which failed, I liked it though, it was like 5.5/10 for me, then he comes with SSLP, MMLP, TES back to back 3 straight up classics, then he shits bad with Encore, but still has a few good cuts on there, then he moves forward to release a really dope horrorcore project, damn awesome, Relapse, I don't care what ya'll think about that project, I just love that one, then comes with a mainstream poppy, yet great rap album, Recovery, a 7/10 album, then I really loved the MMLP2 though, there weren't any fillers, but yeah, a bunch of bad bars, however I can skip that under the light of other dope stuff on the album, a solid 7.5/10 he scores there, then he shits again the hardest ever, with Revival (Framed, Believe, Arose & Castle were the only songs that I fucked with, on there), then Kamikaze, I liked that one too, but the last three songs on there were bad as fuck, a solid 7 there, then he comes with MTBMB, I just didn't like it as much, like DEHH group said, it was a super okay project at best, like a 5/10. A bunch of bad bars there too. His discography scores around 7/10 at best, considering his three 10/10 classics. I would say, Nas is on the same page too. 3 classics (Illmatic, Stillmatic, IWW), 2-3 bad projects, and a few with 6s & 7s, today his new shit dropped, King's Disease, and I listened to it, and there for me he scores around 6.5. So, his discography scores around 7.5 at best. On the other side, Jay Z is more consistent than anyone of the late 90s in the commercial rap scene, I'd say, his discography as a whole gives us a solid 8.5 mark, damn I love his catalogue. But that doesn't make him any better. Well, in the underground scene, MF Doom & Aesop top the chart for me. Doom hasn't ever released even a single bad project till date, that dude is phenomenal, pick any project from the hat, and you'll find a masterpiece, I mean, Mm..Food, Operation Doomsday, Madvillainy, or whichever. Aesop jumps in the same discussion too, he is just unique, Skelethon is fucking incredible to me, I love the Impossible Kid one too; there isn't even a single project from them, which I can is not upto the mark, their discographies are strong as fuck. I'd throw a 9 or even a 10 for them lol. They are just different.

[@Shaolinmike1994]

I just think it’s hard for Eminem to keep up these days. He gets a lot of hate even though he is still incredibly good at rhyming. I think he struggles with trying to please a lot of people, and what to write about because he done rapped about everything possible. He gave us so much good work in his early albums. He still come back with great story telling, example “darkness” from MTBMB. I personally love that album because there was a lot of different glimpses of Eminem’s career that I hear in that album. I think if he came out with an album that had a concept it would be really great. Or if he went back to some hard 90s beats like on infinite or how he rapped on “don’t front” from MMLP2 bonus track, and brought back that raw style it would be a great album. But then again he would still get hate for “not progressing”. Idk I’m always here for an Eminem album though. A lot of rumors going around about a new project dropping this year and a possible “MMLP3”.

[@hashoar.8752]

Hopsin is one for me. Raw was dope, knock madness was okay, Pound syndrome is horrible. He had so much potential but just fell off

[@Storyofarose]

Kendrick Lamar is 4/4 so Far

[@kb4231]

Anthony Rose Agreed. Although some people didn't like to pimp a butterfly because they didn't understand it.

[@Storyofarose]

Keywan Bernard yeah sad that people don't get the message into that album and the meaning of the title Top to Bottom is amazing still listen to it everyday of the week

[@SeboHyatt]

I feel like that album will take time. The sounds of it weren't nice to me when I first heard it as well. Still trying to be able to listen to Summertime 06 from Vince Staples. Didn't really like the production so most of the album was forgettable to me.

[@Coolkid5800]

Do you count untitled?

[@Storyofarose]

Simple Complexity if haven't got into TPAB by now then you my friend just need give up I got stuck on the album 3 listen

[@yungforensics]

if kendrick ever gets to the point where we have to give up on him, i'll actually cry

[@FabulousResults]

Relapse was good as hell once you get past the strange style Em is going for. There's some very, very dark shit on that album and once I got into it I was hooked.

[@CasualGamerJay]

"What did he do after Great Depression? Crack." LMFAO SHIT HAD ME ROLLING IN THE LIBRARY

[@cdimitr0v]

Why would you give up on Kanye?? TCD, LR, and Graduation - all amazing. Then you have 808s which some people love, some people hate. Then MBDTF - again, amazing. Then you have Yeezus, which is meh. Then there's TLOP, which is pretty bad lyrically but has great production and is a fun listen. How does that progression warrant giving up?? :(

[@Paperbagman555]

It doesn't warrant giving up at all! Even though I'm not feeling some of his stuff, he brings a fresh sound to each new album he creates. It's great.

[@Slesaint17]

C D I think people just hold him to a higher regard than a lot of other rappers so expect more from him. Also because his personality is so eccentric and unpredictable that people just don’t trust him. In literally the past 2 years, he’s released 3 albums. Ye, which was meh. Kids See Ghosts which was incredible and now JIK which was bad and so random

[@HipHopIsDead0603]

I don't care what anyone says about 50 Cent's Discography I thought Before I Self Destruct was a good album, and Feefo is tripping the Massacre is a Classic.

[@kratosgow2]

Remedy Me too. BISD is mad overlook. IMO BISD is better than Curtis and animal ambition

[@kratosgow2]

Remedy Yeah. I know the massacre sold well, but I'm not sure most niggas heard that album, for some reason the massacre is mad slept on.

[@agc3865]

Remedy I like get rich or die trying the most from 50

[@Wheres-my-toes-bro]

The Massacre was actually really good, in my opinion one of his better albums.

[@MarkanVaran7]

The Massacre is a classic, I mean it's not as good as GRODT because In my opinion it was too long , it's funny because they both have almost the same number of tracks but The Massacre FELT too long, if it was cut down by 3 tracks it would have been certified stamped classic but it's still a classic,those 3 tracks do not dimish the whole album because they aren't terrible. BISD was OK and yeah better than Curtis and Animal Ambition.

[@soberhippy8240]

Mf Doom is a perfect example of this. He had a great 4 album run and then started releasing meh albums. I will still be hyped for a incoming Doom album

[@sldoom1066]

Those 4 albums were so damn good though! we can never give up

[@christiancristof491]

Not just great 4 albums, 4 THE BEST album.

[@shades4385]

Was Born Like That after the 4 or not? Because that is easily the most underrated album he has.

[@pophall5522]

So we gonna act like Sophie not fine

[@-kxvin-5239]

No ones denying that

[@GewoonRood]

Two shitty albums and I'm done

[@urineanxiety]

what are kanye's two shitty albums? i can't think of two

[@darrickfranklin7096]

gross guy Yeezus was bad TLOP was okay which is bad for Kanye standards

[@urineanxiety]

i don't think 'kanye standards' are necessary, but to each his own. watch the throne is the only album of his that i don't really care for

[@vriggin56]

Raisean W yeezus was dope and tlop was pretty alright

[@thegooseinator9614]

Yeezus was amazing and TLOP was just straight up bad.

[@DreDaDon16]

artists like Big Sean I will never like because his voice and he never has anything interesting to say, this is a loaded question because some artists you might not just like

[@DreDaDon16]

Romy Taylor I did wasn't impressed

[@MindBodyandMusic]

DreDaDon__ Thank you! I thought i was the only one who didn't like his voice. And his flow annoys me. I tried to give i decided an earnest listen and halfway through i was just like "I guess I will never like Big Sean", and cut it.

[@DreDaDon16]

MindBodyandMusic same way I feel man

[@Christopher._M]

Have you listened to his Hall of Fame album?

[@latesha2008tyrese200]

Wu tang ? After Wu forever they never made another great one

[@kratosgow2]

PAUL GIZZLE Word. Everything after Wu Tang forever is nothing close to their standard. Their only have like 2 dope albums, and the rest of them are meh..After WTF everything is mad average or really bad.

[@anthonyanderson9303]

The W and Iron Flag were both solid efforts. The absence of ODB was quite glaring tho. Honestly the best Wu Tang stuff is all in the solo efforts ironically enough.

[@tronxcat001yt9]

i'm right on that edge with tyler .. i wish he wouldn't fuck around as much & take his music more serious cherry bomb really put me off

[@justina5688]

indeed quintbig I think Tyler is different in this case since every album he's put out is completely different from the last. The only 2 close ones were bastard and goblin but they had a whole different saline at the same time. Tyler is tight but personally I'm not looking out for him, his new style is good and all but his first 3 albums were where I became a big fan. Cherry bomb was meh for me but was a different type of sound, so it's not bad it's just not what you want to hear from Tyler.

[@tronxcat001yt9]

justin a he's a very inconsistent artist bastard was good goblin was bad wolf was good cherry bomb was bad

[@justina5688]

indeed quintbig it's just depends on your preference. But I think bastard is his greatest and will remain his greatest project. But idk I liked goblin and cherry bomb was meh but the tracks that were good were really really good. I can't say that he's ever, in my opinion, released a legitimately "bad" project.

[@JustDraysonTV]

Lupe slipped with L.A.S.E.R.S. and Food And Liquor 2 but made a strong comeback with Tetsuo And Youth.

[@franknitti100]

Just Drayson I have it being damn near a Classic

[@JustDraysonTV]

Frank Nitti It is in my book. I still play it to this day.

[@tonyjuarez6296]

And his current one is VERY good album too he still got it

[@ThePdmd1]

The big sean disclaimer lmao!!!!! yall already know that album steady trash

[@jaywilliams1483]

ThePdmd1 the album's great

[@hellhathnofury1398]

Jay Williams No it is not.

[@Bizzybanks24]

ThePdmd1 the albums actually good but if they ain't like dsp I'm sure they won't like this one either

[@Pemchas]

I had such disdain for Big Sean when he did that "Show Out" verse a couple of years ago. I hated him ever since.

[@Bizzybanks24]

Pxxzy that showout verse was heat

[@OfficialKrazyKrew]

I think Lil Wayne is the perfect example. How many weak projects have we heard since Carter 3?? But I know the second Carter 5 drops everyone and they mama will be listening

[@bolomitejr1]

y'all reviewing da migos? curious to your thoughts, actually thought it was decent this time around

[@myles6917]

bolomitejr1 ken and B will hate it lol

[@n90900]

bolomitejr1 sounded like a dam mixtape, plus it was annoying how much Quavo was using Travis Scott's style

[@prodigy2244]

milez the caption chronic but you don't know if you'll like it unless you listen to it

[@robertkirby5955]

Feefo stopped checking for Em? He was overall the main one that highly praised his last "MMLP2" 3+ years ago.

[@GhostMikey0]

Robert Kirby he said if you fall off he's not gonna check for you but if someone says "listen to that shit" he'll bump it.

[@robertkirby5955]

+DistantProjects But when it comes to Eminem's last album, Feefo praised it, so that means right now he's implying that Eminem bounced back after falling off. Based off that, he currently should be excited for what Eminem comes out with next. If he was actually disappointed with his last LP, then what he said in this video would've made since.

[@PhilosophyofGoats]

Thank you Lol

[@agipson101]

Robert Kirby I think he was saying that he was checking for em and he was giving em a pass..there kust giving example of an artist career

[@robertkirby5955]

I guess that make sense; I wonder why he doesn't like The Massacre by 50 Cent, though. I understand if he doesn't like the club tracks like "Candy Shop" and "Just A Lil Bit" (even though I don't mind them) if that's even the main case, but it's not like the whole album was flooded with that shit.

[@faroukabbas3261]

btw i really dont see any point why you will review I Decided. if yall gonna shit on it anyway. 4 album reviews of pure hate is just pathetic. let that man be.

[@relevanttwitterbeef6749]

Farouk Abbas myke has praised big sean for certain features. they're more objective than you might think

[@En4cer2K9]

I thought Recovery was better than Relapse

[@soulboyinc]

En4cer2K9 bruh Relapse was so much better than recovery

[@958FaizanKhan]

En4cer2K9 both are trash

[@En4cer2K9]

Soul Boy so you actually liked crack a bottle?

[@qusigh]

Cause it is,it's a matter of opinion after all u know that right?

[@Jordanehan]

These Days is extremely overhated. Might be my favorite Ab-Soul album.

[@DMAN4922]

THANKS MYKE!!!!!!! DMX had one bad album... Year of the Dog, Again... his 1st 5 albums were absolute fire from front to back... FYI, the album after The Great Depression was Grand Champ, and that shit was fire too.

[@mykectown]

Thank to these fools, man!

[@Mass_Supreme]

Guess my dudes aint heard The Blue Carpet Treatment. Snoop was snapping on that album. Shit was hard.

[@Demsky83]

R&B is making the best albums right now. Gallant,DVSN,Daniel Ceaser, H.E.R. phenomenal music.

[@youngking1497]

The Massacre was definitely not trash tf he talking about straight up this the same nigga who said he liked Animal Ambition and as a 50 cent fan I'd say that album was trash it only had like 3 or 4 songs I liked on it but to say The Massacre was trash boy stop

[@Tanmanhologram]

These guys have never heard Blue Carpet Treatment. There's no way you can say that album isn't what you wanted from Snoop

[@MalikEKC]

Depends on the type of rapper. Some dudes just keep making the same album for the rest of their careers. I'l always check out a Kanye album because I know it's going to sound mad different than whatever he just did last. We all know what a Game album is going to sound like going in and what he's going to rap about and how he's going to rap.

[@TheEnigmaticBM39]

MalikEKC game has switched up a lot of times on his albums. His first two albums don't sound a thing like L.A.X. Nor does L.A.X sound like the RED Album (where he was constantly biting the features flows and shit) and etc.

[@marcobazan4187]

and I'm sitting here thinking why they're bringing up Kanye when he has one of the best, if not the best, discography in hip hop. Hasn't put out one bad album yet, yes some are better than others but nothing remotely bad

[@FrancoisDressler]

marco bazan The only one of his albums I'd consider bad is TLOP, and even then it's better than a lot of these new rappers best work.

[@marcobazan4187]

TheVideoInvader TLOP isn't even bad. I'd give it a 7, possibly his worst work but given his discography the standards are already really high. Especially after all the edits and added songs, the album is damn solid

[@relevanttwitterbeef6749]

marco bazan *yeezus

[@marcobazan4187]

Relevant Twitter Beef Yeezus wasn't bad either, lots of great songs on it. Maybe 2 songs that I'd skip

[@relevanttwitterbeef6749]

the whole middle part was rough for me but bound 2 is my shit

[@alvarobendezu8452]

The one after the great depression is grand champ which was better than GD, but then X really fell off

[@londeck]

Currren$y... this man puts out more music than anybody. After like his 2nd or third average mixtape, I stopped caring about another curren$y release

[@0ne0f0neMusic]

What about Ludacris?

[@14192jn]

I think effort comes into it as well. Like, if someone brings out fire, fire, fire then a few shitty ones were they clearly aren't trying then, nah but if someone brings out fire, fire, fire then a few were they are trying something new with the same effort put in it just happens I don't think it worked then I'll still check. Anyone agree?

[@DaOtisElevator]

If a rapper made something I loved in the past I'll literally never stop listening to the artist. I still have hope that Weezy will come back one day and bring back that heat.. He gives us hope on certain features, I remember when he dropped that verse on ASAP Rocky's track and thought he was back, but nope. Even if I have to listen to 20 dog shit projects if he brings one that's on that Carter 2 level it'll be worth it.

[@skabzemortal]

Studying hip hop shows that Jay has never followed a great album with another great album Reasonable Doubt (1996) Blueprint (2001) Black Album (2003) [i dont count it as a great album] American Gangster (2007) 444 (2017)

[@itsStawny]

I decided was actually pretty good

[@massiboutou3631]

itsStawny lol

[@pullupthen5073]

It's just like Myke said, it depends on how good the previous music was. If MF DOOM puts out a wack album then I'll never stop checking. But if someone like Drake puts out more than two then I'm completely done. Not that I hate Drakes music, I'm just not really a fan of his even though I can vibe to some of his songs

[@DclGamingPurple]

whats wrong with kanye??? Dude had 5 incredible albums (classics) he has 1 dud and you dislike him??? but 5 minutes ago you say artists with a first run of great albums get a pass.

[@kooleyBear]

The issue with Ye isn't about the quality of the albums he put out as much as it is the things that go into how he has created them. That is my guess for why for them. But for me he has four classics. I feel his first four are classics. MBDTF was okay but I was disasppointed with how it was and I have noticed that from then on that is when he has had short albums. And with Ye I don't think he is able to make the same amazing projects like his first 4 unless he has more time to expand on it. Being short gives him less to work with on a project.

[@DclGamingPurple]

kooleyBear first person ive heard who considers 808s a classic and not MBDTF.

[@kooleyBear]

For me 808s was great sound wise and lyric wise. And him being helped by Cudi and inspired by T-Pain's use of autone helped bring about the template for many like Drake. To me fantasy was cool but most of the songs were okay. Monster didn't have the amazing bars that I was told it did while Power and Runaway were amazing in each capacity.

[@DclGamingPurple]

kooleyBear​ i can respect that, but the majority of hip hop listeners would consider MBDTF an incredible album. In most definitions a classic is just a timeless album a lot of people love, so for that reason I would consider it a classic. Not trying to discredit 808s by any means though, just saying its substantially loved a lot less.

[@kooleyBear]

That's cool if you go by that. For me I am looking at it from the standard that Ye has set for us as well as impact. To me his creative genius was complete as a project on the first 4albums. The others are fine but they aren't on the same level.

[@Ell0llE]

While I agree Doggystyle is Snoop best album but I mean my favorite of his has to be The Blue Carpet Treatment you can't just call that album a dud I agree about the rest of his catalog tho but ill defend Blue Carpet

[@R30LLnControl]

2Pac alive has no bad albums. Flawless run.

[@kb4231]

Pharaoh Monk Agreed to bad they fucked it up after he died. Although I did like better dayz.

[@R30LLnControl]

Keywan Bernard I try to blind myself from his posthumous work. Rumor is most of it is Tha Realist.

[@tobeyisspider-man5795]

Some people talk shit about his first two albums though, especially Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z.

[@eoseclipse3275]

Sophie forgetting that Lupe most recent album besides DROGAS was fucking stellar? Tetsuo and Youth was The Cool/F&L quality

[@manuel21090]

Why do I feel like this is referring to Big Sean lmao

[@Jon155mt]

manuel mendez Because Myke & Beezy hate that nigga lmao

[@MichaelJimenez416]

At least someone like Kid Cudi had a great album like MOTM, so when he puts out an album like speedin' bullet, we at least can say something good. I will concede, all of big Sean's records are better than speedin' bullet, but he does not have anything good in his discography

[@casulrekr6340]

Hold up Kanye hasn't put out a single bad album

[@tylerblair318]

I feel like it depends. Eminem had a couple great albums and at this point I just groan when I see him. Kendrick Lamar could drop a shitty album and I'd still want more. I didn't like any J. Cole's albums except for Forrest Hills and I'm still game. It just depends I suppose.

[@rickyspanish3053]

Nas has put out 5 "meh" albums his 1999 albums and the ones from 2004-2010 But illmatic, iww, stillmatic, gods son, life is good were great *My first 5 albums were solid b* 😎

[@kratosgow2]

Cam Ron Stop it 5. Nas only have like 3 meh albums.

[@hellhathnofury1398]

Cam Ron Nas has 3 Meh albums and 8 good ones.

[@TheEnigmaticBM39]

Untitled was dope plus that collab album with Damien Marley

[@rickyspanish3053]

ShowTime Oh yeah that too

[@ericlegend95]

Hip Hop Is Dead came in 06 and that's a classic in my book.

[@Damphouse]

I love how the video about "how many bad albums they can listen to before giving" up starts with an announcement saying they're gonna listen to another Big Sean album lmaooooo

[@IxGinOxI]

notification squad

[@coldheart96]

For me that's B.o.B after Strange Clouds. His project after that was not working for me. Hopefully he'll come with something next time.

[@AirUpHeer]

Rhythm & Gangsta had Drop It Like It's Hot, Vato and Beautiful, not Sensual Seduction*

[@TheEnigmaticBM39]

Shaheer Lanier beautiful was paid the cost to be the boss bro

[@TheEnigmaticBM39]

Shaheer Lanier vato was blue carpet treatment too

[@TheInfamousThey305]

The hate for Sean is ridiculous lol. I enjoy his punchlines

[@Flip_The_Lens]

Damn yall struggled with my name bad, but thank you for answering my question tho. I think I already sent this tweet out but next question I really want to know is - Who's better LYRICALLY Outkast or Run The Jewels? Thanks again

[@MoveTowardsTheLight]

Felipe Banks Great ass question, who would you choose though?

[@darrenpopovich3671]

I'd go with Outkast, they had a steady evolution on their albums, moreso Andre but Big Boi did too. They damn near invented new genres. Run The Jewels are one of the best doing it currently but I don't feel they've changed hip hop nearly as much as Outkast did in their heydey. They had such a variety of sounds they worked with, their songs got better and better, they experimented with the form and usually had success. They're just one of the best groups to ever do it and in my mind have done more to elevate the genre to higher levels. Run The Jewels are vets that are masters at execution. They're like a really excellent film like...The Town for example, masterful execution, no one is going to say you've reinvented the wheel but you've done a crime film that stands with the great crime films of the past. Outkast is more like No Country for Old Men for example, where it plays with the genre conventions of a crime film but comes out with something that feels wholly different in execution because of the personal manipulation and experimentation of the form so you felt like you saw something new instead of a really well-crafted crime film. Idk if my rambling makes any sense but that's my take on it.

[@Flip_The_Lens]

Darren Satchawan I agree with you 100% but you're talking more about impact than lyricism. So let me rephrase the question...Which group duo would you go and listen to more based mainly off of their bars Outkast or Run The Jewels (albums & features)

[@Flip_The_Lens]

JOE CooL Honestly idk but if I had to choose I would go Run The Jewels

[@darrenpopovich3671]

Felipe Banks My bad bro, def missed the lyricism part lmaoooo. I'd still give the edge to Outkast because of their more expansive variety of moods and topics, ranging from political to meditations on mundane life, reminiscing about the past, social commentary and humor etc. I just feel they have a much more varied and rich body of work in all criteria including lyricism that reflects that diversity. So with more topics to cover, there is more opportunity to come up with witty bars relating to different things to be clever about. I mean I could get back to you after I've gone through their bars extensively I suppose lol I just remember when I would listen to an Outkast song, chuckling to myself over clever lines like "We come together like flour and water to make that slow dough, Colder than a polar bear's toenails" and then having my mind blown by shit like this: "Conceived under the influence of toxic wasted doctors, computer buggin' debuggin' device-a and vice versa And various viruses performing with laser light precision and verbal incision For a linguistic ballistic lobotomy Mind-fuckin' you, a psycho-sodomy Of the medula oblongata Accept your mind down your spine and out your behind Fuck you" back to shit like:" But the niggas around the Ave. and the hoes, they love me They wanna be me and my family too Because the money that I make be puttin cable off in every room" to other stuff like " :I'm fascinated by the way yo Nipples peak at me through yo blouse Freaky me, freaky you Can't help but be aroused 'Scuse me, Lord lustful thinking But that's the way we was brought up Sneaking to watch Playboy at night We all must be caught up in worldly ways" "And he kept asking me, "What kinda car you drive? I know you paid I know y'all got beaucoup of hoes from all them songs that y'all done made" And I replied that I had been going through the same things that he had True, I've got more fans than the average man, but not enough loot to last me To the end of the week, I live by the beat, like you live check-to-check If you don't move your feet then I don't eat, so we like neck-to-neck Yes, we done come a long way like them slim-ass cigarettes From Virginia, this ain't gon' stop, so we just gon' continue" So for me all of that variety plus the clever wordplay and not to mention delivery and flow, just makes me choose Outkast in the lyrics department as well. Sorry for the novel lol

[@SupahKamiGuru]

This is old heads having a clinical bias towards an artist just because the way his music was early in his career. A lot of hardcore review channels do this. Half of you guys gave Kid Cudi's new album at least a fair chance. Aside from a few songs, that album was a long ass experimental garbage can. You should at least give this new Big Sean album a chance.

[@godmelanin2676]

Great topic, well over due.

[@Theorychad99]

Kanye never put out a bad album. Yezzus was his worst album but still was not bad. Kid Cudi on the other hand had 2 Amazing albums and 3 HORRIBLE albums after. His new one is alright tho

[@veksone77]

Snoop only has a career because he's a pop icon not because of his music.

[@iAintSayDat]

I stop caring when it seems like the artist had stopped caring. Lasers may have sucked but Lupe was still writing and rapping his ass off. Wayne quit trying after No Ceilings so I quit paying attention

[@Historicutuber]

You never give up on an artist....never

[@urineanxiety]

you could give up paying attention though... just don't dismiss them if they come back with better music

[@dabossman5650]

2 in a row-if its not in a row I wont give up

[@CodysFavorites]

Grand Champ by DMX is a great fucking album

[@MarkanVaran7]

HELL NO!!! that shit was too damn long, 25 damn tracks ain't no one listening to that gtfoh

[@ericsmusic5927]

ArnoldFTW97 W

[@tobeyisspider-man5795]

Grand Champ was his worst album.

[@J0RDAN23xXx]

Damn, No Mercy was my favorite T.I. Album he ever had. It doesnt bump in the whip though so ill give feefo a pass lmao.

[@elijahstiles3012]

Snoop suffered in the late 90s but came back as soon as he left No Limit

[@shawnorjiakor]

Elijah Stiles No Limit Top Dogg and The Last Meal got great albums.

[@elijahstiles3012]

Shawn Orjiakor they were mediocre at best.

[@shawnorjiakor]

Elijah Stiles Not The Last Meal tho.

[@elijahstiles3012]

Shawn Orjiakor in comparison to his whole discography with the exception of The Doggfather it is

[@shawnorjiakor]

Elijah Stiles The Last Meal, to me, is one of his best.

[@RALF0691]

DMX was never an album artist. He only had good singles.

[@angelferrer892]

Kanye never fell off for me, tlop and yeezus aren't bad, it's just bad compared to the other 5

[@BermanTV]

tlop is not bad , but for kanye standars it is not that good , IMO that nigga made 5 classic albums in a row

[@FrancoisDressler]

I think TLOP is garbage, but Yeezus is a masterpiece.

[@ColdJoeGaming]

Before I watch the video, I'd say after 2 albums

[@MultiDashing123]

Hope Y'all View This Guy name Locksmith His album Olive Branch is coming out 3/1/17, Trust me this guy is worth the listen

[@kratosgow2]

Ricnes Alliance Word. You heard that new track he dropped? 🔥🔥🔥

[@MultiDashing123]

Dragon Ballzzz Deep Yeah "Agenda" That shit go hard

[@kratosgow2]

Ricnes Alliance Yeah, it does,I can't wait for that album to drop.

[@misticpepe9703]

Seeing an artist like a product with an expiry date is ridiculous.

[@trebennett9545]

y'all said y'all liked relapse but didn't like recovery ? lol howwwwwww

[@kratosgow2]

Tre Bennett Word. I thought recovery was better than relapse.

[@trebennett9545]

I thought It was kind of a general consensus that relapse was pretty bad. I liked recovery. bars were focused with topics , word play was there and the flow was sharp

[@kratosgow2]

Tre Bennett Me too. I was so happy recovery have those things you mentioned. Recovery might be "em" most overlook album. IMO

[@trebennett9545]

it really is tho. it's almost like when people talk about em albums no one touches on recovery. I'm just like wow did people really listen to this ? my favorite album from him. that 25 to life, not afraid , no love , talkin to my self , almost famous, etc. there were really some great songs on the album . really slept on

[@merrickcassian5044]

Relapse may have had an odd sound and atmosphere, but that album boasts possibly the greatest series of rhyme schemes in the history of rap. That was Em at his technical prime. Even if you weren't digging the horrorcore, you can't deny the lyrical ability showcased there.

[@advocatefish3562]

For me a big reason I stop listening to an artist is when I feel like I've heard everything that artist has got to say.

[@elijahstiles3012]

Eminem is definitely one of them for me

[@xSalamz]

I agree but Early 2000's Em was incredible.

[@elijahstiles3012]

xSalamz his first album was alright, his second was arguably his best, his third was good and after that it's been a slow downward slope

[@myname8635]

Elijah Stiles it wasn't slow Encore sucked, his last 3 haven't been bad though

[@elijahstiles3012]

My name Encore wasn't terrible imo. Relapse was corny, Recovery had potential and MMLP2 could've been executed alot better.

[@stray3rdborn36]

@@elijahstiles3012 how was relapse corny?

[@lhodges1502]

They clearly don't know music sorryb

[@jaywilliams1483]

It's ridiculous how much they hate on big sean,he's way too talented for that.

[@shyguyx1219]

talent isn't everything obviously. you could have talent and waste it.

[@Bizzybanks24]

Jay Williams it's subjective it's not like basketball where he's averaging 30 and people still say he can't score

[@jarenyoung9389]

Jay Williams lol no