How Many Fisker's Need Service? Our New EV | And A Destroyed Cybertruck EV80quette Ep 1

[@RodneyCurtis]

Hey, I really enjoy this smattering of news from across the EV spectrum. It’s good to get these quick hits.

[@Aslash304]

Much appreciated!

[@williamrodrigues2902]

I recently got a new job with a long commute. I picked up a 2022 Tesla Model 3 from Hertz for about $20,000 before incentives. It had 41k miles and some general dings and scratches, but overall it was in great shape. I've only owned it for about 2 months now and it is my first EV, but so far it's the best vehicle I've ever driven, and I've had a lot of cars in my time. The cost and ease to commute with the Model 3 is really great as well. There really is something to be said about being able to charge at home and just be ready to go every day without worry about fuel. I've had way more range anxiety in my ICE vehicles, because I'd run them to when the light comes on. I kept my ICE vehicle too. It's an F150, and every home owner at some point finds themselves needing a solid pickup, but if I could have afforded the Lightning, I would have just gotten one of those and had just the 1 vehicle. On your point about recycling. I've told many people that gasoline and diesel are both finite and you can't recycle them, but lithium battery packs are now being recycled with a 98% efficiency for the entire pack, not just the cobalt. So from the casing to everything in it, they are getting around 95-98% back! that's incredible.

[@Aslash304]

Thank you so much for sharing this feedback, and your experience! Great points about recycling!

[@vacommish]

Adam - we had emailed off and on about my Fisker Ocean One. I followed your lead and got out of my Ocean One. I got a Genesis GV60 for a 3 yr lease at $250 a month for a $73k sticker car (I had owned my FOO, which I turned in as a trade). My trade value was far and above any other manufacturer. So I’m pleased with the deal.

[@Aslash304]

I’m very happy to hear this! Enjoy it! Hyundai/Kia/Genesis build nice EVs!

[@JoePesos]

My 3 reason for not switching to EV is the excessive user tracking those cars do and phone home. Basic car functionality buried in software apps instead of physical buttons (I don't mind infotainment in there but air vent direction and other simple things no). Third the car has one item in the battery that if it fails is insanely expensive, with a gas car parts will also fail but no single parts is that great of a cost. Bonus, I loath touchscreens outside of phones, they always become laggy and unresponsive as apps are upgraded and time passes, electric cars that are not of the Tesla mold of a giant screen for everything are fine in this regard.

[@Aslash304]

All new cars track you. My Honda Prologue has all manual buttons and physical vents. And what parts on a gas car have a mandatory 8 year/100,000 mile warranty? Every single EV in the US have 8 years/100,000 mile warranty on the High Voltage battery. But, you don’t have to switch.

[@effingsix3825]

Thanks for the perspicacious read on the bankruptcy process Adam! 🤔 In liquidation, the process might be solely for the purpose of extinguishing the shares in existence and issuing new. If I recall correctly from the SEC website the OTC listing with a ‘Q’ post-fix are all extinguished and new shares with a ‘V’ post-fix are issued. I get more interested as time goes on in the proceeding. So if anyone is looking on with some curiosity, remember which shares have the Q or V post-fix, because these listings might exist at the same time for a short period(until the end of fiscal year, perhaps) The OTC listing will come off the expert market designation. Fisker as a company might continue if there’s a ‘stalking-horse bid’ during liquidation. My guess would be that the current management will obligingly resign, and that a two-tiered share structure will be eliminated. I have no intention of ever coming near Fisker because of the black cat that crossed their path, hopefully the erstwhile company emerging from bankruptcy has learned that they’re providing a tech platform first, then a vehicle, then a marketing scheme.

[@Aslash304]

We will have to wait and see what emerges.

[@Coolcatgrooves]

Well done, I dig the new expanded information.

[@Aslash304]

Much appreciated!

[@davidmerwin7763]

Great update. Thanks Adam! We use a 110v charger at home, too.

[@Aslash304]

This is the way. I am 100% satisfied with my 110 charger

[@davidmerwin7763]

@@Aslash304 Me too!!!

[@bowefamilyEV]

Not sure how I am only now discovering you but great videos. Just subscribed.

[@Aslash304]

Much appreciated! Thanks for watching!

[@everyelectriccars]

Man am i glad I didn’t go through with my Fisker Ocean after holding the reservation of the Ultra.

[@Aslash304]

Yes, those of us that took delivery got economically hit pretty badly

[@mzmz9355]

Hi Adam, thanks for the initiative with the FOA. My questions would be following: Will there be spare parts support for EU owners off Fisker Ocean? Talking of fair price for the spare parts, what sum are we talking about? Who will be responsible for SW updates? Is there any SW update coming within next 3 months and what it would fix? What parts are ocean specific and what parts are general - possible to buy right away and are used in other vehicles? in terms of ocean specific spare parts, would there be schematics available to outsource it or even 3d print it freely? What is forecast of the ocean future for next year? Thanks.

[@Aslash304]

I’ll address this in an upcoming video

[@DaveDarin]

I'll add this. While the Ocean and other EVs get a lot more miles per charge a level one, unless you drive very very few miles, will not cut it. I could avoid the hiring an electrician as our laundry room and garage are right next to each other. I grabbed a level 2 off Amazon that I plug into the laundry room dryer plug and the cord reaches even beyond the garage. A level 2 will give me 10% charge per hour of charging. A level one will be insane. We use about 60% electric per day so that's about 6 hrs of charging per night. We do have the back up REX engine that will get me 70+ miles of range, which is exactly why we bought the BMW i3 REX, it's genius. Nice video but I had these points to add.

[@Aslash304]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@MrJaood]

A big reason for not switching to EVs is convenience. Things like L3 charging networks, home L2 charging are often times convenience features, and you shouldn't be so dismissive about it. There's genuine merit in not having to "plan" on how to use your ICE/Hybrid car. As long as there's a road that leads to where you want to go, it can get you there. There will be gas stations along the way and is not something you have to route around. As you say, as long as you put planning/forethought into your trips and commute, an EV can do it, but not everyone wants to do that :)

[@Aslash304]

Convenience will always play a role in transportation. If you’re willing to pay the price of gas, you’ll never have to plan or think.

[@patrick7228]

I think level one doesn't get enough press. Same here. 2 years of EV ownership and my daily commute even in the winter, has never forced me to consider installing level 2. I do need to charge level one daily during the winter but that's it. Plug in when returning from work, unplug in the morning leaving. No level 1 issues thus far. I am lucky enough to have level 2 and 3 in my area if I ever need a quick charge in an emergency.

[@Aslash304]

Level 1 should be the selling point. Thanks so much for sharing your experience

[@Lorwildrose]

My UCP government in Alberta Canada chased all the renewable companies out of our province. So we’re not as bad as your state but nothing new is happening now.

[@Aslash304]

@@Lorwildrose so sorry to hear this.

[@thebairn]

10:10 the tax credit for used EVs is only $4k, not $7500

[@Aslash304]

Good catch. Should be 20k. I’ll correct this in an upcoming video.

[@ChristSotos-fy4vw]

This is the best comedy routine I've watched since catch a rising with Howie Mandel you are a riot keep up the great work lmao😂😂

[@Aslash304]

@@ChristSotos-fy4vw thanks for watching

[@drgermany001]

Thanks for the video 📹 Adam 👏🏾🙏🏾

[@Aslash304]

Thanks for watching!

[@voidthewarranty1429]

Great roundup.

[@Aslash304]

I really appreciate this. Thanks for watching!

[@WiltonLiveTV]

Dude, I was with you all the way until you endorsed that whistling diesel dude! I don’t get it. I know that you said you don’t subscribe but then you went on to say oh he did some really fair testing with two EV‘s. He absolutely did not do any type of fair scientific testing but he’s the one who gets the most views so now he gets to spread more FUD and you promoted it!!! Shaking my head 🙈

[@Aslash304]

@@WiltonLiveTV it was worth the watch though. Good to know what EV haters are saying. Or, maybe I’m a childish loser who watches filth.

[@voidthewarranty1429]

@@WiltonLiveTV Cody is an equal opportunity take the piss out of everyone & everything entertainer. So in the big scheme of things, it matters not one whit that he 'unfairly' destroyed the Cybertruck.

[@WiltonLiveTV]

@@voidthewarranty1429 blah blah blah blow it out your AZZ

[@nycplayboy78]

Adam as always you are doing the YEOMAN'S work when it comes to EV news. West Virginia doesn't deserve you :)

[@Aslash304]

I appreciate this! Thanks for watching!

[@cityblue0202]

Will future software updates for a fisker cost ? How do I know if I have a potentially incompetent water pump?

[@Aslash304]

Every Ocean has a potentially incompetent water pump. That’s they were all recalled. Water drips on to the circuit board and it fails. Unless there’s some significant cooperating and communication, there won’t be any more updates after 2.2. Everything else is a total uncertainty. The cost to get additional updates (even up to 2.2) will be in the form of time, effort, driving distance, and cash. All of which are uncertain. But you can expect the cost to be significant

[@Ryctor07]

I'm one of the idiots that is trying to buy a Fisker now that they're cheap. But all of the used car dealers around me still seem to think they can get $30k for them. Watching your videos help me remember that I making a terrible decision. But, sometimes a big gamble works out, right? ...Right?

[@Aslash304]

If you can achieve perfection with it, sure. Windshield is $2,500. A ding will total it. The Air conditioners are failing, the water pumps are bricking the cars, and the vents typically don’t move, so you may be stuck without the opportunity to move the vents, and the manufacturer that makes the vents is defunct. What is it worth? That’s your call to make. Oh, and it could be $300 a month for internet and navigation

[@K9Trixx]

​. $300 a month?

[@ugaladigala]

dude i'd be f*ckin embarrassed to drive a fisker. being seen driving around in a $16k car like you tryna flaunt your poorness or something?

[@humbertopatch6545]

Currently, my FOO is running just fine. AC works nice even in crazy heat of South Texas. Am I nervous? Yes, but at least for now it is driving really nice.

[@panchovilla6881]

I love the car! by far the best vehicle I have ever had. Knock on wood, zero issues up 2 this point!

[@scottishsunflower]

I have a third-party extended warranty on my Ocean. Will the techs sent out through FOA honor the extended warranty?

[@Aslash304]

If the court decides to use the money from the Fleet sale for warranties, there is potential for limited coverages of certain things. But the TLDR is…no

[@geraldh.8047]

9:56 ❤ GV60 - still trying to find a deal like this in Germany. So far nothing interesting on offer 😢

[@Aslash304]

It is a sweet deal, for sure! Good luck on your search!

[@cityblue0202]

I looked at buying a Tesla but the car insurance is stupid in the UK 🇬🇧. I have full no claims insurance and 1 years insurance will boat me £1200, a VW id 5 is £600

[@Aslash304]

Insurance is certainly a determining factor in a car purchase. I think you’d be satisfied with either one.

[@Derpy1969]

Keep up the good work.

[@Aslash304]

Much appreciated!

[@jaymasterflash9396]

Are all ev brands high cost for maintenance like tesla? Especially after warranty ends? How much would insurance cost for minor repairs and dents?

[@Aslash304]

Insurance is really hard to quote, because part of your cost is where you live, part is your credit, part is your driving record, and part is those attributes for your other drivers on the policy. If you file an insurance claim, you would only pay your deductible on a repair

[@jaymasterflash9396]

@@Aslash304 california? An average guess? 😄

[@jaymasterflash9396]

@Aslash304 good credit and driving record

[@panchovilla6881]

So I only have 2.0 on my ocean. What's gonna happen with my extreme? Today is the 19th. I have been driving it with no issues.

[@Aslash304]

If you’ve never had an error, or a problem, or an issue, or a freeze, or a vent failure, just drive it. You are already running on good luck.

[@mussa55]

I would like your advice about my OCEAN and Insurance company

[@Aslash304]

Feel free to ask any questions. Happy to answer

[@mussa55]

@@Aslash304 lucky and unlucky . My spouse had a fender bender with a wall and now my insurance company says it’s a total loss . I have gap 110% and new car replacement. I owe 58k and they are offering 37k . My question is am I super screwed and what size shovel should I buy 😅

[@typxxilps]

ID Buzz and ID camper are 2 different products afaik. Those are build here and especially the long wheel base has been designed for USA only . Not sure if there are 2 things mixed together cause who should buy a long wheel base van if not the americans ? It is not available anywhere else. And Camper is a term used for a kind of bigger van with 60% RV / Motorhome capabilities. That demand is even in Europe quite low for obvious reason cause weight above 3,5 ton is the killer here. Below you can drive unlimited. Above you get a 100 km or 80 km/h limit. And how to build such vehicle if the current diesel are already for years on the verge to overweight. Here there is close to no demand for such Campers llike the VW California even though I am not sure if that will be sold in the USA under the same branding which is a T7 van conversion by VW.

[@Aslash304]

Thanks for the feedback. It is my opinion that VW will literally say anything to prevent the sale of the ID Buzz. There are no versions available for sale.

[@Leawzkd]

Hi Adam, Can you ask FOA what they will do for the UK market?. There is a bunch of us who feel it US based. Especially from what we are seeing with water pump replacement plan i.e UK is still in limbo, and sorting out the 4G (which you mentioned in your latest video). Cheers

[@Aslash304]

I will do this! Thank you for the questions!

[@JP-sw5ho]

I've been listening for a few weeks now and I have to ask - is this some regional accent where you pronounce it Ate-a-kit, and I've just never heard this before, or are you rebranding the word etiquette?

[@Aslash304]

80-Quette. ev80quette.com

[@timoliver8940]

For FOA - can European owners join and benefit?

[@Aslash304]

I will ask for the specifics. Great question

[@davedempster7658]

Depends where in Europe you are?

[@EM.1.]

Adam, great that you're branching out and away from Fisker. You might want to add funny effects in the background. BTW -Trump wants the Chinese to build them in the US.

[@Aslash304]

Much appreciated

[@caraziegel7652]

I tried to explain that the open source / safety issues and someone tried to argue I was full of crap. whatever.

[@caraziegel7652]

I admit driving through West Virginia at dawn was one of my favorite things. And of course that line of Rivian chargers is on the blue ridge, right?

[@caraziegel7652]

oh and i have not yet installed a level 2 charger and i've had the car since january. i just took my first 'road trip' and stopped once each way at a large electrify america station and charged 15 minutes, just to be sure i could get to my destination

[@Aslash304]

Thanks for sharing your feedback and experience

[@timoeisenschmidt3950]

Hey Adam, I urgently need the yellow reflector on the front left of the Fisker's wheel arch. can you help me? I come from Germany. I would like to know from the FOA whether they would work with German workshops. I have a friend who would do that for the north of Germany. He has a renowned workshop. thanks for your videos.

[@Aslash304]

Send me an email [e-mail]

[@DannyFyffe]

The one Prologue video I saw from you said it was bought for your wife. You said she just upgraded to a Model 3 Tesla. Then you announced a deep dive video where you will knock Honda. Either the prologue is gone or about to be, right?

[@Aslash304]

Sorry for the confusion. I let my wife drive the Prologue in my first impressions video, so as not to add my own personal bias. The Prologue was my replacement for my Model Y and My Fisker Ocean. My wife has had a Model 3 the whole time, and she’s getting a new one to replace it. I am keeping the Prologue. I have some negative thoughts about Honda, but the Prologue is actually a GM product, so the opinions of the company and the car are a little bit separate. Great questions.

[@melvinholland9656]

What West Va. deserves or doesn't in the way of DCFCs is irrelevant. EA, ChargePoint, EVgo and the rest are making a business decision on the economic viability of placing a network in the state. Rivian is struggling to make a profit so the last thing they are going to do is place a RAN in Morgantown or Charleston that will rarely be used. Perhaps your Rivian animus is better directed to your state legislature or the state citizenry that are hostile to EVs.... reference your parody (EV Owner vs EV Hater). While you bemoan the charging desert in W.Va., please note there are one or zero RANs in real adventure states like Nevada, Idaho, Dakotas, New Mexico, Montana, etc. .

[@Aslash304]

I tried to provide evidence that the chargers would be for tourists coming from other states with better infrastructure. I tried to explain Rivian’s business decision for not adding the chargers as well. It makes sense They want 100% renewables. Can’t do that here. The “real adventure states” part was my favorite, though.

[@gilbertnau6002]

How much does that fisher owner want and is it an extreme?

[@Aslash304]

Send me an email [e-mail]

[@DaveDarin]

On your "EVs are harder to refuel". Your NOT TRUE is NOT TRUE. First off I love my EV - 2020 BMW i3 REX. The REX stands for range extender which is a scooter engine matched with a generator and that maintains the HV state of charge, within reason. If you are going up a steep elevation at 75mph with the AC on you will, I have, lost about 7% chsrge until the regen down grade. But, why do I say you are wrong? This is specific to Arizona. It's been a brutal summer, 110-118 degrees for TOO long. I do not have a climate controlled garage. Inside the garage is VERY VERY meltingly hot. If I try to charge my EV the HV cooling fans spin like crazy. They slow down in about 1 minute but they remain on at a lower speed, probably indefinitely. I do have a solution. I program the computer to turn on the charging at 3:00am when it's about 93 degrees and I park outside as my garage retains the heat and is still hotter than the outside temps. So adding to that, If I needed to fast charge, in my garage I have a level 2, but if I had to go to an Electrify America in the blazing sun at 117 degrees would my cooling fan spin out of control for the entire 30-35 charge time? I probably don't want to find out. So, are EVs harder to refuel? At least in beautiful Arizona in the time of the year we hate YES it is harder as I'm not comfortable letting my HV cooling fans stay on like our homes air conditioner which is on almost non-stop. Can my BMW handle it? Maybe but I prefer not to find out and have my HV battery cooling fans have an issue. At least it's not an Ocean where my cooling pump fails.

[@Aslash304]

Arizona is tough this time of year. Thanks for sharing!

[@harmony3138]

Why you think all-wheel drive is better than rear-wheel drive unless your wife is taking her Model 3 for off-road driving? 🤔 As I understand the best sports cars are rear-wheel drive :) So, in normal driving, rear-wheel drive cars are perfectly good, if not better.

[@Aslash304]

The roads where I live are like off road driving. Great feedback

[@JCJW101]

All wheel drive beats 2wd in all driving scenarios. If F1 cars were allowed to they'd all have AWD.

[@harmony3138]

@@Aslash304 Oh, I just remember you are in Canada. They have harsh winters. So, all-wheel drive ideal in snow.

[@harmony3138]

@@JCJW101 That's a misconception most people have. An RWD has superior braking performance because the weight is distributed among all four wheels. Traction is also enhanced as weight is moved to the rear wheels with increased acceleration. As with any car there are some setbacks. AWD vehicles are heavier than ordinary cars. Because an All-Wheel Drive car only transmits half of the drive force at each wheel, the amount of grip available for cornering forces is greater than a Rear-Wheel Drive car for the same level of engine power. Meaning that the best AWD car will lose sideways grip at much higher cornering forces than the best RWD car. And that is why what I said above about best sports cars, and no wonder F1 cars don't do AWD.

[@kengaroo-l6g]

I only have one question, would anybody trust & buy anything Henrik Fisker put out in the future (you included)? Legit question, not trying to be @$$🤔

[@Aslash304]

One has to hope not. Fool me once…

[@ugaladigala]

i will never buy a big ticket item such as a car from a company that is run by someone who doesnt have a degree from an ivy league or equivalent school.

[@LarryRichelli]

Why do you keep calling the Prologue a Honda. It is a GM car that is sold by Honda?

[@Aslash304]

What should I call it?

[@LarryRichelli]

@@Aslash304 Call it what you want but if you know how a honda feels, then you must know that this car was not made by honda. I was just wanting you to acknowledge that in the video but no big deal

[@Aslash304]

@@LarryRichellidone and done.