HOW MANY LEAKS IS TOO MANY?

Well I'm back again, at what point do I stop fixing this unit? Within the last year we have repaired leaks, a compressor, a reversing valve, and now we are fixing more leaks but it's almost impossible to replace the equipment.... so we just keep fixing it.
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[@Rayfanz1]

I’m an automotive service advisor, not your target audience by a mile. That said, I don’t think I’ve missed a single video. Your channel is incredible. You are a HVACR/KZbin superstar. Thanks for sharing what you do.

[@SuperUltimateLP]

I'm a electrician from Germany. I also don't work in the HVAC industry but I like his mindset and his style of video. But I hope that the electrical work I see in most of his videos is not representative for all the workmanship of my American colleagues ;)

[@DimMakTen31]

Carrier. Job security at the highest level.

[@NorthernS0utherer]

Unless you are an American factory worker

[@erikkovacs3097]

The Dodge of the HVAC world.

[@Sagittarius-88]

@@erikkovacs3097 Lmao. I don't do commercial air conditioning repair, but I do work as an auto mechanic. The vast majority of the vehicles I work on are Chrysler products. Holy crap those things are garbage. Good to know I'm not the only one out there dealing with garbage on a daily basis.

[@markarca6360]

Tried. Tested. Trusted.

[@Falcon-eh8tq]

Their tech support is next level, if you ever want a runaround through the phone and the web endlessly they're the company!

[@rogersmith8593]

I'm the senior HVAC tech at FedEx Alliance airport and I love watching your videos. Nice to stay in touch with all aspects of the business. Watching you work makes me happy that I'm not in the restaurant business...lol

[@NotSexualAtAll]

I'm really loving the 80s and 90s production tropes showing up here.. just need a two part episode and a "catch the thrilling conclusion _next time_ on..... HVACR videos."

[@FBHSswimmer2006]

“HVACR Videos was recorded in front of a live studio audience.” Monstrosity is an understatement for that unit.

[@SproutyPottedPlant]

10 out of 10!! - The First stage Refrigeration Compressor

[@alexanderlewis239]

People design these in the ceiling jobs with no regard for service and repairs when things go wrong.... I just hate in these in ceiling jobs,,,, All those leaks were probably caused by vibration,,, A nightmare job to repair,,, even a temporary repair.

[@erikkovacs3097]

Design? An interesting use of the word for "let's put it there".

[@Android_Warrior]

Same for commercial laundry, the laundry room is always in the middle of the building and the vent pipes inside the walls to the roof with no access!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@sgt.mikebaran7105]

Building Designers And Installers Are Idiots....Dont They Know Units Need Maintenance And Service???

[@kthwkr]

@@Android_Warrior Apartment buildings are often built the same way. Very long dryer vent pipes. One I had to clean out was at least 60 feet long. Clogged with lint. I filled up two trash bags. The fire department told me fires are not uncommon.

[@sethtriggs]

Wow that is a complicated tumbleweed of a setup up there. I absolutely love the montages complete with music, that's just always a joy.

[@markcaldwell1245]

Great job. Every time I had a call at a mall it was an instant long hard day of work. Up and down ladders carrying your entire van on your back beats a man down.

[@hjd3711]

I love watching problems being solved. This channel is a great example of that.

[@jamesh6229]

Sometimes I think when they design these buildings and put these units in they give no considerations of the fact that eventually everything needs to be replaced or repaired. But as you say in the video, "we will take care of that later". Thanks for the video Chris

[@ClumsyCryptid]

I don't know how or why KZbin recommended me your channel, but I never thought HVAC would be so interesting.

[@jpcallan97225]

I did a job on a True prep table that frequently ate the evap tubing, especially at the fin-tube joint. At the risk of telling you your trade... some things you might offer the customer short of complete replacement: 1) True recommended a spray epoxy paint to protect the copper work from airborne acids (the restaurant had a lot of salsa and sauces containing ascetic [vinegar] and citric acids). The gray epoxy paint did help a lot, but was kind of brittle and prone to getting tiny cracks that allowed the acid attacks to resume after a few years. If you hit the open tubing work with a Scotchbrite wheel, then a couple of coats or spray epoxy, I think you could buy them extra years. 2) Order in a new evaporator that is factory coated with a coil protective coating like Heresite, Enviro-Shield, ElectroFin E-Coatings, etc. There are a number of other companies in southern CA offering similar services for existing coils. Epoxy paint the braze joints after installation. Perhaps the coil could be pulled in the heating season. 3) An engineer at a coil maker I use near Spokane, Washington, told me in response to a remark I made "How do evaporators in U.S. Navy submarines manage to not corrode? It's not like they can just pull over on a sand bar to vent the refrigerant, then call in a repair man." The engineer told me they actually made evaporators for the Navy. They were all copper, then tin plated. The food acid didn't bother tin. This the big-bucks eternal solution, but still no dismantling the building. Lastly, all the leaks I saw you repair were at braze joints. These joints appear to have minimal braze alloy fillets, suggesting they were furnace brazed. The rosy colored residue tells us a phosphorus-copper alloy was used. I wonder it the factory used a 0% silver brazing alloy like Dynaflow or Harris 0 (read "cheap")? I don't know about corrosion resistance, but their spec sheets says they are not good where vibration is present. I assume you used 15% silver alloy, for the repairs correct?

[@cyborgsheep6077]

Nice fix for the leaks, the heat pump videos are always the coolest

[@jacobfoxworth]

Wow man, that was a total leak fest. 😁 Great job getting them back up and running. I ran into one like that once where there was pretty much no way to get the air handler replaced without shutting the store down. Good job man.

[@kat2641]

My Hat off to you, coz that one we would of had to walk away from. We just don't have the time or man power... But this R&R falls back on the original engineers that the building was not designed to be able to service the units and change them out.. lol while it may look good on paper, don't mean it works in real life 😁.. We just have too many places to be at the same time, to take on a emergency repairs like this one... Why don't my boss hire more help? Lol thousands of reasons huge overhead involved an tons more paperwork. You understand 😃, You all done Great!! Thanks for a great video!!!!!!!!

[@jimlowndes9980]

Hey Chris.after 40 years in the trade I thoroughly enjoy your You Tube offerings, I can follow along and after the job is completed I don't have to pick up any tools......Jim From Ontario Canada.

[@zack9912000]

Depends on the customers pocket book. Honestly I would have told them it needs replaced and walk away if they don't. Some jobs that are these kind of headaches are not worth it. No one wants to be responsible for holding that shit bucket

[@Mrcaffinebean]

Hey if they want to pay him a lot of money to hold the bucket then might as well.

[@zack9912000]

@@Mrcaffinebean Yea true but at the same time being married to a bad install you didn't do and them expecting you to be there at a drop of the hat and being held responsible for the smallest issues. No thanks

[@Mrcaffinebean]

@@zack9912000 who said anything about those things? It’s important to set expectations with a customer. “This unit is old, it will break again. I have a lot of customers and am busy so when it does I won’t be able to always be there immediately. Just be aware of this risk.” Those kinds of words go a long way and sure their are going to be customers that try and push you even after you set expectations but you can remind them of that warning and if the continue to be pushy they can go be someone else’s customer but most won’t get to that point.

[@zack9912000]

@@Mrcaffinebean Yea you can say those words but the vast majority of customers ignore those words and when they are hot they don't care what they were told or agreed to. Deal with that daily working commercial and residential work. We just simply walk away from bad jobs that just scream run. We see the red flags when they say x number of companies looked at it and don't want it

[@Mrcaffinebean]

@@zack9912000 then you tell that customer they are fired and you move on. I’m not sure why some people feel that they can’t say no the customers.

[@kthwkr]

Don't need the inspirational music. Your expertise is enough inspiration.

[@nottheinternet6276]

Music is masking cop sirens.

[@EkalGGWP]

If my ac is broken im gonna call this guy 😂😂. This man is a professional worker!

[@Slugbunny]

Music + extra video speed = montage. 👌🏻

[@awesomestuff9715]

a little tip for how you do the montage, try lowering the audio of the video a tad bit (make it still audible, but have it be "ducked") the music could be like 0.5db quieter too right now the audio from the video and music are somewhat clashing and covering each other

[@0blivioniox864]

Thanks for sharing your expert level knowledge dude. Can't say I know what you're talking about a lot of the time (having no experience in the field myself) but it sure as hell is fascinating to watch you at work.

[@ernestmccollum2397]

Love the videos. Interrupted by a prostate commercial, but nothing can do about that. LOL

[@ethan12313]

Absolute expert level tech. Well done!!! Edit** I actually watched the whole video** Keeping it interesting, love it.

[@kevinschmidt3887]

Dude you are smart think about future repairs buy putting those ball valves in like that, it a shame whoever installed the system originally didn’t think of that so it was easier on you. Keep up the good work man always a pleasure watching you do what you do best!

[@kyleb1043]

Man I am so very grateful for the relentless content!

[@badzioch64]

We take care of a mall and there are hundreds of heat pumps in ceilings. One thing is common to all. They all suck

[@burningdust]

Years ago it came time to upgrade the projection system in the local IMAX theatre here in my city. The existing and new projector were absolutely massive. To make the swap, they ended up cutting a section of roof decking out and went from above with a crane. Wonder if access from above would be a viable option for some of these air handlers?

[@TwistedMe13]

20:04 Sounds like a migraine to truly fix. If replacing the complete air handler is impossible (and it sounds batshit insane and hideously expensive to boot) you may have to resort to cutting out the failing coils in those air handlers and replacing them with stainless steel ones.

[@HVACRSurvival]

Looks like a great time🤦‍♂️😁. That belt sounded tired👍👍

[@jasonjohnsonHVAC]

I noticed that myself......one problem at a time lol

[@HVACRSurvival]

@@jasonjohnsonHVAC or better yet, you can always polish a turd but it's still a turd 😁😉

[@dcwarr14]

Evacuation machine running in the background of the music, just like a real day at work. $

[@chickmagpunk]

Thanks for the upload Chris! Hope you and the fam have a great weekend.

[@markbell6864]

I feel you pain. I changed a coil on a 7.5 ton this week. It was in the vertical position and on the ground. That was enough of a pain in the ass.😂

[@viijunioriiv8512]

You’re the best ac tech I seen man I worked with a lot of dudes and just the way you approach everything is genius

[@erd675]

Honestly that looked one hardest hvac repair jobs. You guys make it look good 👍and clean.

[@briant9764]

i feel your pain when i was a working man i always wanted to do a good job helping people out but there's a limit to what you can do.

[@1948Noam]

I had the same problem due to the chemical testing that was taking place within the building! Had to replace the entire unit!

[@bradgoodale3249]

Great effort guys.Keep up the good work Chris and crew.

[@resurgensix]

Phenomenal work. Well done.

[@dylan2250]

Keep up the work mate. I get 7+ service calls a day so I struggle to teach my apprentices, I tell them to watch you vids then ask me questions honestly it’s help massive with the basic!

[@HVACRVIDEOS]

Awesome bud, glad I could help!!

[@tracyr5594]

That's kinda funny.

[@soxfan000]

Great video. As a residential installer it’s always interesting to see the commercial side of things.

[@Farm_fab]

Chris, I enjoy the content of your channel, but find the music distracts from the video.

[@michaelgomez3874]

Nice touch with the music. Don't have to hear the recovery machine the whole time. Kudos 👍👍

[@lupe6786]

Another excellent video. You are the best tube producer and have technician. Keep up the good work.

[@joshc8599]

that 80's feel good and work together montage music... LOL nice!

[@rcpasc1948]

I've said many times engineers should have to push around a tool box and work on the items they are going to design in the future. Maybe installers too.

[@BradyT918]

It's a theme that slowly sprouting up in many industries I've noticed. Such as. I went to school for machining and you were required to take a few courses on the design and then a few courses on the fabrication that way you had an understanding of the before and after process. First job out of college was like that as well. They wanted you to know and ask questions of the designers so you knew why they did something and to learn the assembly process so you knew way to make it easier for them.

[@a.t.7021]

Great job! Thank you!

[@ninamcclure2193]

I was waiting for the A-team to show up for a second or Macgyver. Anyways hats off to you for attacking that job. That's the kind of work I got to deal with at my 1.5 mil warehouse. Looks are intimidating but really it's just a days work in the end. Buy the way I ordered a hat and can't wait to receive it. Thank you Chris.

[@flatmoon6359]

This looks like the roof spaces in most supermarkets in UK,entry into them requires great care and free climbing experience.

[@fditty276]

my days of nightmares in the ceilings are over! Only Rooftops for me! GOODLUCK ! LOL

[@rich3670]

Love the 80's welding music!

[@Eddy63]

Good info as usual ... Great vid ...

[@tjrogers4079]

Great vid brother 🤘🏻

[@dashcamandy2242]

I don't know what was more shocking to me: the sheer number of leaks, or where they installed the AHU! It's probably a better idea at this point for the restaurant to abandon the units in the attic area, install new packages on the rooftop, and extend the electrical/line sets/ductwork. It MIGHT even be cheaper to do that than to go through the hassle of removing the old AHU. They'd have to shut down for a considerable amount of time to properly fix everything, and if they crammed new units in the same area, they'd have the same problems again in another 7/8 years.

[@frankmontefusco6016]

Great video that job looked pretty hard, you did good!!

[@yakacm]

I have a friend who is a youtuber in LA, and he made that only 80F comment himself today in a post, makes me laugh it hasn't been 80 degrees in my bit of Scotland 3 maybe 4 years, lol.

[@TheWoodman064]

Good work!

[@thewonky9283]

Good morning, great video and luckly I rewatched the last part last night to know whats happening

[@JakLuca]

Ohhhh reminds me of the time my boss wanted us to install 2 handlers at a church through a 2x3 foot hole... we had to complete disassemble it and carry it up peice by peice

[@simonwielinga5236]

it's a blue oval thing... everything with a blue oval in the brand leaks...

[@DavidHarsant1]

yup, every ford owner will tell you the same thing.

[@eatsleepdronerepeat2301]

Pfizer is also leaking?

[@Landofmagic678]

@@eatsleepdronerepeat2301 leaks into your body lol

[@realestateservicessaleshea99]

@@DavidHarsant1 I didn't know the other automobiles didn't have repair shops ? No? Stay safe. Retired(werk'n) keyboard super tech. Wear your safety glasses.

[@DavidHarsant1]

@@realestateservicessaleshea99 lol every ford owner stands behind their product

[@gerarddasilva9535]

Great job 👏.

[@newjerseybill3521]

I like your technical term, "fire things". :)

[@cranbers]

This video was great, I like the addition of the 80's music. So why wouldn't they just do several smaller units insteads of the one giant air handler inside? 3 or 4 smaller units wouldn't require the special order, breaking down the walls or construction company to hoist it up right ?

[@donnierobertson3088]

Nice job and video like always

[@alekmartinez3109]

Good job Chris! Heck yeah brotha I like ball valve idea.

[@acrraideredward9773]

Gotta love Sunday mornings

[@stevensrspcplusmc]

We install these in 7-11s , we just disassemble in ceiling.. leave bottom of air handler together and take top apart.. you can get evaporator out but it isn’t easy👍😊

[@universalservicetechust3578]

What a lucky guy, you get all the fun ones 😎

[@Blasterxp]

Same in it, im small company, can service a lot of station and networks. But laying 200 utp cables is not for my company. Others are much beter in this work. Do everything where your power and knowlegde is. Happy customer, happy boss man

[@johnwalker890]

Good job.

[@deanmohamed7575]

excellent video and I dig that music

[@FireAlert]

Jesus, thats a lot.

[@nathang.1744]

5:55 “these are big boys” haha

[@AMDRADEONRUBY]

Nice a new video keep going you rock

[@stevebollinger3463]

Love the Italo-disco music!

[@10minutenewhampshirebreak77]

Nice music! I'm gonna get a big speaker and crank it up while I'm brazing pipes! lol 😂 Nice job

[@Bryan-Hensley]

I can't stand that noise. Music is definitely not a one size fits all. They used music to torture people in the wars..

[@pinoyhvacrtech_australia]

We have same issue with that carrier model where we just replace new evap coil as because of repeated issue of multiple leaks..

[@mangoisback]

Had to replace the txv on one of those!!! Not fun , not fun!!!

[@AG-tg9in]

10:46 , that’s the look you get when your doing something you don’t consider work. More of a passion for doing something you don’t consider work, or a career. Yet the years I have doing the same thing, yet I haven’t reached no where near getting tired or bored of doing this everyday. This trade is something different every time no service call is the same yet ignore if it’s just a filter situation but regardless to say it’s sad to see this trade needing more technicians yet the ones that actually know a thing or two not just those that replace parts and call it a day which is ridiculous. Most of all lol coming from a 28 year old. GOOD WORK CHRIS 3rd time seeing full start to finish on your channel along with Rick, Bryant etc you know that gang lol hope your wife and family at home doing good. 👌👍👊

[@mrbyamile6973]

10:35 *Poof* black acetylene sooty smoke " are there smoke things above us?" Perhaps a question best asked prior to striking the torch... :)

[@andyhill242]

I think if it was possible, I would be looking to installing a new air handler alongside the old one. Probably totally impractical though!

[@tomoliver8498]

The music is better than gunshots and sirens like when working in Flint.

[@ehsnils]

With that many leaks I'd call that one close to being dead and in need of severe life support. 14:50 "that's just silicone", well, did look like some hesitation there. A big pan under it might provide some catch for small dripping and then just trust evaporation to take care of the rest. At worst - a hose draining into a flower pot below! 😆

[@DumahBrazorf]

What the heck do they serve in that restaurant? Aliens steaks? (Aliens the movies...)

[@hrvstmn31]

Seriously surprised they didn't do a firewatch when y'all were doing that. Did security few years back and the company that hired us would firewatch for everything, even down to the cooking vents being cleaned.

[@elijahtalbot5288]

Nice video

[@user-ou9eq9mt3b]

Smart guy

[@databoy2010]

If you suspect that the issue is airborne contaminants, would there be some sort of pre-filter that could be installed in the return duct before it reaches the unit? It would also be interesting to collect a sample of the condensate and test it with PH paper to see if that tells you anything.

[@BenTh17]

The micron gauge says good, we must be good! 😂

[@SproutyPottedPlant]

It's that musical Wet Rag again!

[@TheMaster5150]

That unit is comforting knowing it's suspended with that much weight in earthquake territory 😳

[@doumor99]

i know that area well I used to work for a company called Valley Ind. Supply Co they had a location in Ontario and Tucson. I think their current Rubber shop is Applied Industrial Technologies East of the 15 between the 10 and 60 in Fontana

[@xiar5546]

You think I should convince my store manager to call an hvacr person for our walk in freezer? It’s literally snowing inside it.

[@marcycami]

in florida is mandatory a secundary pan with a float sw. that certainly was difficult to do, I did one bigger but not as hard to access, we piece it out completely to de frame, even the 3/8 screws that hold it together, but not as hard as this, tip of the hat sir.

[@antoniofabro3759]

Thats a big sucker lol atleast you got space in the ceiling!! Nice job keep it up after a long day wanna go home lol

[@Android_Warrior]

2 words, "Big Picture" and "I really really". 👍 😆 😅 😂 🤣

[@hariranormal5584]

Always was scared of these HVAC stuff, used to see it in the roof of those warehouses like stores and always had a creepy feeling to it when i was young

[@sureshkumarc.k6534]

Morning chris!

[@theoldbigmoose]

Love your work and videos. Please no music. Not needed, and a distraction.