How Matter Changes YOUR Smart Home (made easy!)

[@SmartHomeSolver]

If you don’t know who Mr Socky is or follow Paul’s channel yet. Go check it out! kzbin.info

[@TenshiR]

Mr Socky is a rabid Alpaca in a ski mask.

[@topperdude2007]

WHAAAT - 2 great videos in the same week! Is there a long weekend around the corner?! LOL. Looking forward to the deep dive on Matter (although I am guessing that might not happen until it is more widely available?). Would be so nice if manufacturers (at least those that have committed compatibility with the standard) would update their products (at least recently released products) with a firmware update - would help with the adoption of the standard. Versus if they make customers angry by expecting them to buy newer versions of the same product. BTW, I hope you are OK I pointed one of your viewers looking for Smart Projectors to Rob's recent video on the topic.

[@dab42bridges80]

I already have a Unicorn, thanks.

[@paulhibbert]

You wil be hearing from my lawyer... My lawyer is Mr Socky. He also doesn't argue things in court, he just strangles people to death! 😬

[@SmartHomeSolver]

Bring it on Mr Socky! I'll rip your face off! Well... by taking the sock off the hand.

[@djrensvandeburgt1236]

@@SmartHomeSolver watch out Reed Mr socky is good at that haha

[@AlexTeo]

🤣🤣🤣

[@mirrteam8146]

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[@mirrteam8146]

Anti matter.

[@KairosGaming]

Those matter puns were amazing haha

[@omairbhatti685]

Kairos!!! Love your videos

[@ronm6585]

Thanks Reed. You always bring great information to your videos no "matter" the topic.

[@letsgoiowa]

What do you think about Paul's video on why he believes Matter will be another failed standard? It's been a while since I've seen it, but the main takeaway I had was that it doesn't create standards or requirements for devices to actually be compatible with each other.

[@SmartHomeSolver]

It's been a while since I've seen it too but I partially agree with Paul on it. At the time he made the video Apple may or may not have been on board with Matter but if they were, they definitely were not as much as they are now. So I think at the time of Paul making the video it seemed more of a hopeful wish that Matter would happen. Whenever Apple decides to do something adoption rate across the industry goes up for whatever that is (for better or worse on some things). Like I said in the video there are solutions like Zigbee already out there. I remember Paul saying that we don't need another standard because we have OHhh the Zigbee. I agree it feels like we are supposed to buy Thread devices because it's the shiny new thing. But with Matter, all of its benefits it can justify the need for change in my opinion. I didn't mention it in the video but I spent some time on the Matter github project looking at all the progress and it's pretty cool to check out. Seems like developers from Apple and Amazon are working on it which is pretty sweet. Collaboration like that is not easy.

[@ailivac]

I'm sure it will take some effort to get it started but it will be hard to stop once things get moving. After all, inertia is a property of Matter.

[@JohnVanderbeck]

Truth is you will NEVER get Apple, Google, AND Amazon to all agree to something that has blanket requirements. It should still vastly improve the landscape and if you are like me using Homekit and Home Assistant then you are already operating locally anyway which is the biggest thing.

[@espressomatic]

It won't be possible to make Matter devices that "don't work with each other," regardless of how you interpret the spec. I'm a fan of Paul's but he's either being goofy here or just didn't look into it enough. As long as your automation platform has the required radios and can talk to all the devices, everything is a green light. And every major platform is going to support it (Apple, Amazon, Google, Home Assistant). What one shouldn't lose sight over however is that not everything will be Matter, including Philips Hue - that is, their bulbs are supposed to continue with Zigbee (instead of moving to Thread) and their HUB will support Matter/Thread. You can think of Thread as pretty much an IP-based Zigbee and Matter will run on top of that - but it can also run on top of WiFi. And while Matter can work locally (hey, so does plain IP over WiFi), you'd better believe that some companies will still have cloud-connected services tied to their devices (Ecobee, Nest, etc..) The two main benefits are what was mentioned early in the video. Works with all home automation platforms: don't need to shop around for that special version for your platform. Easy to add to your platform: scan a code. The other benefits already exist with other products: local mesh, low-power. You shouldn't replace any of your existing devices if they're working well for you. If I had any, the only things I'd get rid of are cloud-only devices like Tuya, etc. And that really has nothing to do with Matter coming later in the year.

[@MrWinston1337]

@@espressomatic same was said about zigbee devices yet we see lockout and unsupported device codes all in it. And the same industry players were behind it. (Minus apple I think?)

[@magic7s]

I’d really like to see Home Assistant be a Matter bridge so all HA devices can work with and Matter Controller right away. But they are prioritizing being a Matter Controller first.

[@espressomatic]

And they're on the right track. HA can already bridge any supported entity to any other platform like Homekit, Alexa, etc.

[@browntigerus]

Thread advantage: much faster/lower overhead networking in comparison to Zigbee, also not congesting your wifi. Matter advantage: universal enrollment, CASE sessions (sessions resuming), less power usage for lowpower devices [batteries could last a lot longer], IPv6 based, mDNS, multipath BorderRouters internet connections, universal casting. Events are similar to Zigbee: Custom and Cluster. Matter over thread is much more advance than Zigbee, +added [hopefully universal] casting protocol.

[@yichaohan6317]

Most of my smart home devices don’t support homekit. Whether they will support matter 1.0 is questionable. They still work fine. I guess I will upgrade then when matter 5.0 releases.

[@ZillionPrey]

Funnily enough, my current zigbee stick uses a cooadinator chip which is freely programmable and there are sources that already say I just need a firmware update for Matter to work. So I think it won't *Matter* much for me.

[@rapjul]

Same. Looks like my Zigbee USB stick from Sonoff will support Zigbee and Thread being active at the same time. Not sure how important Matter will be this year, but I imagine it could be next year.

[@SmartHomeSolver]

That's great to hear! Also nice use of the word Matter!

[@Bigglare]

Matter,, its just like zigbee and zwave, but now with Super-Battlegrip IPV6. I have z-wave devices that are 20 years old that still work great.

[@johnchan6191]

As a matter of fact, I was thinking about what matters in a smarthome. Thx 4 the gr8 vdo, & sharing in Utube.

[@yanzhang-jk4rq]

Matter is fantastic, all our new products will support Matter.

[@pretor706]

Running everything locally without cloud delay, that's the most important matter.

[@SmartHomeSolver]

It's definitely no small matter!

[@espressomatic]

That's not an inherent feature any more than it is with Zigbee however. So yeah, it's local so long as you're using a local-capable platform. So using manufacturer's hub with manufacturer's app might hit the cloud. Using Home Assistant all local. Using Homekit, local control but voice commands hit the cloud, etc...

[@elmedia1532]

Don't need Matter, I have had HomeKit for years working flawlessly. Works local, easy to setup HomeKit devices, privacy guaranteed, Millisecond response times!

[@valberoliveira]

Shelly products also work locally without a cloud service.

[@garryk6208]

Great video now this whole matter makes more sense to me. Sounds like a win for most smart home users. Thank you Reid.

[@RichardSwift]

Thanks for that link to Paul's KZbin, I've only seen a few of his videos and couldn't remember the name of his channel. Now I'm subscribed to you both. much appreciated, it really matters... 😂

[@SmartHomeSolver]

Glad to hear you subscribed to Paul too! Great use of the word matter too!

[@tomshyrus7965]

My biggest doubt for long time is.. how matter works without a cloud server? Can we control devices from outside the network? Then, how the command will be transferred to border routers? Is the cloud connectivity taken care by the matter itself?

[@cloudyview]

I was one of those that asked if I should wait for Matter a few weeks back. Appreciate the content, is made me recognize some ways to 'smarten' my home in simple and obvious ways 👍

[@SmartHomeSolver]

Thanks for the suggestion!

[@georgecharrison]

Guys get this man to 500k he deserves it

[@philipperostin]

so far, matter makes both Smarthings and Alexa act like 2 unsexed teenagers !

[@BrandonDoyleMN]

It is just a matter of time before matter matters.

[@chris]

As a matter of fact, I just got matter slapped by Reed & his wife!

[@Musafeer360]

Thank you. Your explanation are so clear. Have a blessed day.

[@PedalBikePete]

Ooohhh, Paul's gon' be maaaaad.

[@ppen62]

Great video probably the best 1 yet on this issue. My question is if matter doesn’t use the cloud. So will still be able to control a device if not at home. Like turning on a light manual that is set up not a timer. Once again great video

[@bulolo_wilber]

Great video, as a matter of fact, matter makes more sense making everything uniform and much easier to use and manage

[@kelyanlaudat1044]

Well put together

[@NonstopWorship]

Yesssss! I’m so glad that you got your wife to participate in the shananigans lol I love it!

[@witblitsfpv1265]

Puns were awesome! 🤣

[@paristhewabbit]

Automation: I put an nfc tag on my echo dot, so when my iPhone taps it, it turns on Bluetooth and sets the playback destination to that echo! This is just like handoff with HomePods and also works with any other smart speaker.

[@kenneth_jensen]

A Matter of fact, it was a great walk through 👍😁 I'm on Home Assistant and all devices are controlled locally. I will first replace devices when they break. It doesn't Matter if they are running Zigbee/Zwave or Matter 🙂

[@adedayod-one7470]

🤣😂🤣

[@andreamitchell4758]

Still not understanding how it works like what are the hardware requirements? I see that home assistant dongle for the Rpi it looks really tiny though but what exactly is inside? how come the pi needs additional HW? and is additional HW only need on the hub or "border router" end? do end devices need new HW too? what does this mean for IOT makers can we make our own devices like we can with ESP devices and tasmota but using thread/matter? can we use boards like the esp8266 based ones or esp32? or will there be nee boards coming out that support it? and can we update our existing bulbs like wifi , bulbs?

[@Floormat212]

I’m here just for the great outros. Lol No that it matters!

[@KevinKaiguara]

Loved that matter pun!!!!🤣

[@circuitdotlt]

I don't get it. Is it another hub? Will automations run on it? Does it connect directly to devices, or their hubs? So it's basically a competitor to home assistant?

[@patricknelson]

Nice, ok. So, simply put it sounds like: Matter is the high level standard and Thread is one of the newer lower level protocols that devices (utilizing the Matter standard) may use for communications.

[@RetroAdz]

Thanks for the quick summary! I've been meaning to read up on it but the delays have been delaying my research 😄

[@ANOXanubis]

What I'd like to know is that if I don't have to use multiple apps, 5hen what about automations? Will Alexa Routines, IFTTT, Samsung and other automations be on par with each other?

[@Cecemel]

Hey Reed. Could you say what that smart remote is in the front of the video thumbnail please ? Thanks !

[@Infigo96]

What ive seen, your first 3 points you listed only is a thing if the devices are running thread. And people confuse thread for matter to much. For most people I think thread won't be a part of their smarthome as they already use another standard as zwave, ZigBee or similar. As those only talk through the hub and already support homekit or whatever, matter don't really add anything. Philips had already shown signs that they will continue to work in their existing ZigBee ecosystem, so we will not see an abandonment which would have been worse. So we now have 3 big smarthome low power ecosystems. Can matter simplify acces to and through Alexa, ha homekit etc? Maybe and that is where I think matter may have its core feature for most people. Then maybe they add cameras etc in the future, sat 10 years in this speed they might get easier to integrate. But we already seen companies in old industry like Samsung create their own for washing machines and similar so before it's released we are looking at a fragmenting market. Although AC units and washing machines did not integrate good in the first place so win for those devices....maybe.

[@TeamGB-Diving]

From what I have read on the net, some of the smart home accessory manufacturers will not be updating existing accessories with Matter. They will only be selling new accessories with Matter comparability. Also I wouldn’t be surprised if you had to buy a hub or pay a subscription. There is an old saying “no one does something for nothing”.

[@espressomatic]

Watch the video again. If you've bought one of many products in the past couple of years, you've already got your "hub" or border router or controller. Like Homepod Mini, Eero Pro routers, Echo speakers, etc.

[@TeamGB-Diving]

@@espressomatic I have mainly Echo dots 3rd gen, 2 Echo Dots 4th Gen, Echo Show 8 1st gen, 2 Echo’s 3rd Gen (New Version), and a HomePod Mini. TP-Link say they will not be rolling out a firmware update to existing devices, we would have to replace our current gadgets. Not sure about rest of the manufacturers. Only time will tell.

[@johnchan6191]

Wow, all the components is locally stored is gr8 news. Need 2 convert all my light bulbs & switches 2 matter. As a matter of fact, not depending on the internet is wonderful. It won't matter if yur wifi is out. Now that's what I called mind over matter. Can't w8 2 c what comes out, & it won't matter if Samsung decide 2 close their Smarthings hub. Thx sharing on Utube. Btw, what's the matter w/ yur Mrs, she's not excite about Matter coming out. Guess it doesn't matter bcuz she can always go 2 U, the Mastermind of all Matter.

[@SaruEMSEducation]

Can you do a video on all the SYSTEMS? HUE vs APPLE vs HOME ASSISTANT?

[@brandonhorn6218]

Great video I know this might be off topic but do use any govee products with home assistant? I am trying to set up a scene with mine but it will not remember the brightness and color I set. Dou you have any idea why?

[@williamfalch17]

will it be possible to use and iphone and an android phone for homekit, with the help from matter?? can´t seem to find any information about this. please help me out with this one

[@thetinkertechlab]

Awesome video!

[@billblack7840]

I was wondering if I could get your opinion. We're going to remodel the kitchen in the near future and I'm wanting to put in a few smart switches. Should I wait on Matter or just go with something out there now?

[@salvocagliari5797]

Interesting video! I have a question: When my smartthings hub will be updated to matter, could it be connected to the apple home app together with all the sensors connected with it?

[@VPSmartTech]

Great ending as always 😂👍

[@gabiruman]

In my opinion, it's pointless to wait for something that no one knows when will be released specially if there's no secure reason to believe the utopia Matter proposes, when Matter itself is composed by the same companies that were into Zigbee Alliance and they used to promise basically the same thing. Furthermore, as stated in the video, even if it does come out and it is what everyone expects it to be, your "old" smart home products will still work just the same, so you might as well start now.

[@nacnop]

after i set up my whole house with google, i feel like amazon echo is better than google

[@ScottRobertson4523]

No one is still doing a video on how to set it up and getting started. All the videos start after that setup point. Need some resources on hubs or apps needed to leverage this cuz I'm not understanding the overall benefit

[@willread3294]

Awesome video! What keyboard is that in the background?

[@browntigerus]

Matter has a support for UDC doorbells. While casting support/modes for other apps are limited (only manual commissioning) - I believe visual doorbells are covered.😁

[@mailinh770]

The lighting changes in this video hurt my eyes 😩 useful info tho

[@AdhirajDogra]

This video doesn't yet matter. But I will matter once as soon as I can!

[@nev0076]

Been waiting whole year for the Matter. When would they release it? Cant wait !

[@artbyjs]

You're so corny but you're still awesome lol.

[@hessmo]

A question. Does Matter mean that you will be able to use all products together with a hub that supports Matter regardless of brand? So you will probably need one hub in the future for everything? Or I've got it all wrong...

[@camolotrzr4204]

as a Matter of fact, i did like this video 🙂

[@NateS10]

I currently use Z-wave for all my smart home stuff so in terms of Matter it doesn't really "Matter" much to me. Mainly use it to help decongest the 2.4 ghz band which if Matter is wifi based might be problematic. I have not researched much about it yet but seems like it might be good. Atleast from any info of what I have heard from any videos

[@NicCrimson]

Yh to me it doesn't seem like it's adding anything new, unless I misinterpreted the video.

[@espressomatic]

@@NicCrimson It's a bunch of old, best-in-class concepts, a little bit of new, all packaged together in a new box that everyone will support. So, overall, ya that's "new" and it'll bring a lot to the table long-term.

[@MorbidGod391]

The big win for the consumer is when Android or Google fans wyzing up and switch to Apple HomeKit/iPhone they don’t have to buy new smart home devices! Lol😂 jk about why one would switch but the idea is the same.

[@shawndasilva]

All Matter jokes just made me madder and madder… 🤣

[@ghfmcr00]

good, it is just a matter of time to have it

[@kylegamwell]

Would love to see unifi pick up support for this

[@D3nn.s]

From where is that light in 0:37 ? I like the style and want more special bulbs in my house. I think Matter will change a lot for everyone, atleast that's what I hope.

[@GreeniusGenius]

Nanoleaf Essentials I think.

[@D3nn.s]

@@GreeniusGenius thanks! Found them.

[@PatHiggins-Mayo]

Great guide, thanks for this

[@TrevorV]

Liked for the matter puns

[@trutris124]

So will matter be something that just works with things like 4th gen echos or will there be an application that will be used to get your smart home devices to work?

[@joejoe6949]

The head line i want to know is when ? When ?

[@paragjyotideka1246]

So it's like bluetooth/wifi?

[@noshyeohara]

where do you buy it

[@rob-toolsandtech2521]

lol, it made me laugh that Kroger is on the list of companies supporting Matter. If Kroger gets me cucumbers that peel themselves with an Alexa routine, I’m in. 🤣

[@espressomatic]

Isn't the peel the only part worth eating on a cucumber?

[@Hamisback]

Engineer having a slow mental breakdown as he has to re-optimize his entire smart eco system

[@KennyMacDermid]

Interesting video. For random video suggestions, I would love to know more about how it affects the more DIY smart home crowd. Will I be able to connect Matter devices to my existing Thread network? Is there any BLE Mesh inter-connectivity? Will the new Pi Zero W ever work with it? etc.Thanks, and keep up the great work!

[@espressomatic]

In order: Yes, No, Maybe with custom software.

[@asokfair]

Matter works at my home

[@matts1978]

Last 20 seconds omg 🤣🤣

[@thb5505]

To me smart home technology is still too complicated for end users. What I would like answerd is if Matter is going o change the fact that we need hubs for all companies (or do we?), for as long as this is the case I will not use smart devices, since I will not spend money in hubs for every company, that is ridiculous.

[@workhard2belazy]

I think you are wrong. I think thread enable devices will be more expensive and that is because manufacturers are no longer able yo subsidize the hardware cost by selling your information. But i might just be cynical…

[@ChrisMak1]

Sweet t-shirt.

[@user-jm8ho2hy8g]

I can not wait..... To see how much companies will screw these things up.

[@andrewcbartlett]

This video was extremely matter-of-fact.

[@dBager]

Could you do a video about Thread devices?

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I think when Matter is released it could be good to cover it more. Everything Smart Home did a video recently on it and did a good job if you haven't seen that yet.

[@dBager]

@@SmartHomeSolver Thanks, will check it out! : )

[@espressomatic]

@@SmartHomeSolver Definitely worth waiting for official Matter release and product availability before bothering to cover Thread. By that time so many of your viewers will already have Thread-enabled devices even if they didn't already know it.

[@KrispKiwi]

Alexa Local commands seems the big play here. Other than that the benefits appear to be everything home assistant can already do.

[@espressomatic]

HA already works with everything. Matter was really a solve to make devices that work equally well with the three big platforms, Apple, Amazon and Google.

[@keithsummers1889]

The membership and certifications costs are going to sink this standard. The number of products produced are going to be small... Small vendors will not be able to afford thousands of dollars per year and the number of products will be so thin that there will be obvious holes in the types of products offered. The number of competing products will be small and more expensive. There seems to always be someone or something messing things up for everyone -- except for a privileged few with deep enough pockets.

[@EsotericArctos]

It will be awesome if Matter is actually implented the way it is designed. Unfortunately what I have read so far is that it is going to be a bit like Zigbee and allow manufacturers to only partially implement it, or allow propietary functions.... I hope I am wrong there, as that is what hobbled ZigBee up until 3.0, and even Zigbee 3.0 is not 100% guaranteed. I am even more cautious given all the companies in the Matter bed are the same ones that were in the ZigBee alliance, and made the same promises when Zigbee was released. As I said, hope I am wrong

[@espressomatic]

Think of it as Zigbee with IP, because that's who's driving the alliance. Proprietary functions? It's IP, so they won't be proprietary for long. Exclude any of the main platforms and your product is doomed.

[@EsotericArctos]

@@espressomatic Sounds good in theory, but even on Zigbee 3.0, proprietary functionality is still allowed and there is already talk of a Matter v1 that will not have all the implementations of Matter v2 and nothing has even been officially released yet. Sorry, call me skeptical, but given the same alliance that allowed zigbee, zigbee LL, zigbee HA and even some of Zigbee 3 not to be fully inter-operable I will need to see it to believe it this time.

[@plebetopro5786]

So... It's basically the same as ZigBee/Z-Wave... If you don't use the hub, and just do Conbee on HA...

[@RubenKelevra]

Well, that's the same companies which gave the same promises regarding Zigbee years ago. So why trust them now?

[@cosmoslawlss]

you sound like a young version of tim cook

[@Crimly989]

I don't get it, it's zigbee with a different name? Why do we need this?

[@mvmhughes]

Just wondering about security with Matter. Will there be any issues?

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I haven't looked into it whole lot but the Connectivity Standards Alliance says security is a main priority.

[@saesii]

Nice

[@burprobrox9134]

The standard is the standard

[@curtisbme]

Missing a "*Might Eventually*" in the title.

[@yonutz333]

Sorry, but i don't quite agree. None of the big companies involved want a single hub to control everything. Yeah, it might make things easier but Apple, Google, Philips, Amazon will still want to sell you their hubs, probably at a premium since it's new and shiny (and you'll be their unpaid tester)

[@chrisa.8175]

My concern. Is why keep talking this up..? Without a release date or when?? I feel it MATTERS..

[@Mr.Pingvin]

ah you needed 6+ months to be have the MATTER released!

[@richardkurtz9661]

I love and watch all of your videos Reed, but why don't you pronounce your "T"s?

[@LetTheTruthBeTold8324]

i thought alexa will not communicate with any device if the internet is down