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HOW MUCH DID I PAY FOR MY WIFE? - LOBOLA STORY - African tradition - Lempies

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We hope you are all happy and safe at home, today in our couple talk we discuss one of the most famous African tradition. Lobola! how much did I pay for my wife?
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@mandandi
@mandandi 4 жыл бұрын
I am from Botswana. Paying lobola as a practise is carried out here. Our family decided to not charge this so my sisters were married without it being asked. But of course, the husbands were surprised and paid what they wanted.
@pearlleerodgers6049
@pearlleerodgers6049 4 жыл бұрын
My husband who is Irish never paid for me. He owes me big time. I'm so fascinated with various African culture as it is part of my own heritage. I'm mixed with every race. I'm hooked on these videos with interracial couples. Fantastic!
@Lempies
@Lempies 4 жыл бұрын
Happy you enjoyed our content like we have mentioned a monetary payment is not necessary but i think it is a nice gesture to give a thanks present to your parents inlaw 🙌🏿🥰
@Lempies
@Lempies 4 жыл бұрын
Happy you enjoyed our content like we have mentioned a monetary payment is not necessary but i think it is a nice gesture to give a thanks present to your parents inlaw 🙌🏿🥰
@unyanyembe7844
@unyanyembe7844 3 жыл бұрын
Now you are misunderstanding and misusing the culture. The lobola is not paid to you, and you would never be even in the room where it was being negotiated. He owes them nothing since Lobola is not their culture
@Vrzz12
@Vrzz12 Жыл бұрын
probz to your husband. It such an outdated culture. also most of the women want to live in the west and europe and have nothing to do with their culture. but here when it comes to money you have to pay. top regrett of dying people: "I wish I'd had the courage to live a life true to myself, not the life others expected of me."
@sebentilezanini1085
@sebentilezanini1085 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion another reason it's done is to solidify the relstionship between the two families...my hubby who's German was happy to do so...also the cherry on top is he is highly respected in my family. 🇸🇿🇩🇪
@lainandeshi6561
@lainandeshi6561 4 жыл бұрын
I must say i am really loving this quarantine content...keep it up guys ❤👍
@marilynlawson8216
@marilynlawson8216 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, intelligent and humorous content is Lempies' trademark!
@joyce1784
@joyce1784 4 жыл бұрын
Here’s a thought that comes to mind about paying for one’s wife. It might help show the family that this person is serious about our daughter. Having to pay lobola might be enough to scare the wrong person away. Also - Parents really want to know that their daughter is marrying the right person. The fee might help reassure them.
@valerieshinia8526
@valerieshinia8526 Жыл бұрын
Facts facts
@zmkhize
@zmkhize 4 жыл бұрын
According to my understanding in Zulu culture it is a very important process to unite both families as well to show the parents of a bride that you as a groom will be able to provide for your wife and your children. In Zulu culture 11 cows for a virgin. But nowadays, money is used to replace cows. Also the bride gives some gifts to the family of the groom.
@lifewithnosibusisodingaan6411
@lifewithnosibusisodingaan6411 4 жыл бұрын
Lol ngisaba noku xelela boyfriend yam ba kuzome ibhatale Andaz zoyqala phi ngiyaz ngizobe ngibuzwa into eznng
@mariamary1116
@mariamary1116 3 жыл бұрын
11 cows 😲😲? That's a lot
@ayodeler39
@ayodeler39 4 жыл бұрын
Love your hair Lempies. Thanks so much for this. I think it’s a respectful and fair tradition. Even in marriages that are not necessarily cross cultural there are comments of marrying up or marrying down. Ciao ciao. 🇬🇧
@nelagotulelanashandi5719
@nelagotulelanashandi5719 4 жыл бұрын
One thing I know is that ladies without children were also more expensive than those with kids
@nataliaamupolo8507
@nataliaamupolo8507 4 жыл бұрын
No, "you don't want to show appreciation to the parents" the parents expect you "to show appreciation to them"
@edsoncalunga6025
@edsoncalunga6025 Жыл бұрын
in Angola 🇦🇴 we call "alambamento" or "pedido" like asking for permition. it is very important, it shows that the man has respect of her culture and her family
@volenew
@volenew 4 жыл бұрын
Alex have a wonderful worldview and is a very wise guy. Very understanding
@not-even-german4892
@not-even-german4892 4 жыл бұрын
It's a Symbol... She has a PhD.. Priceless 💕💕💕💕
@sandraatkins2539
@sandraatkins2539 3 жыл бұрын
📣❤AMEN
@w.worldwide9473
@w.worldwide9473 3 жыл бұрын
It's not really about that but sometimes families with daughters with higher qualifications tend to up the dowry
@suamaabiatar5625
@suamaabiatar5625 4 жыл бұрын
I think we need to learn to respect the cultural significance of what lobola is, it is not a price, but gifting as an appreciation. The other thing is that we have this developed false narrative that african cultural practices are backwards instead of just accepting them as they are, this must stop. Granted there are people that have taken advantage of the lobola practise and pimped their daughters out, but they should not be looked at to the example for the culture.
@unyanyembe7844
@unyanyembe7844 3 жыл бұрын
Pimped? be more respectful
@bbbryant3892
@bbbryant3892 4 жыл бұрын
An Asian couple, that are good friends of mine, explained to me how he (the husband) had to pay his wife’s family some money when they got married. They told me that in their Laos culture, if the woman is a good cook & takes good care of the home, she is worth a lot more. Very interesting topic!
@tamarajoseph6377
@tamarajoseph6377 4 жыл бұрын
This outfit looks great on both on you, luv it. I really don't like this lobola price. Sometimes I think they're asking way too much. I'm from the Caribbean so there is no bride price. I respect the African tradition though, it'sa culture thingand I get that. If there was interest, Ale got the doe to pay the rest of his life (he's Italian). The skin color thing, I'm against that one, it's racist. Black people keeps on discriminating against their own race. Dark skinned women are very beautiful.
@tammygreen8962
@tammygreen8962 3 жыл бұрын
Their tradition yes a GIFT is necessary. The village depends on every member to keep it flourishing, like we pay Taxes for our society. LOVE costs... like every good or bad thing.. Emotionalism won't milk the goats. Whatever you paid, it wasn't ENOUGH Kind Sir. MONEY CAN'T BUY LOVE OR A HUMAN BEING. Wishing you both a long happy marriage 🇱🇷💖💯
@Lempies
@Lempies 3 жыл бұрын
The payment is neither for love nor to buy the person. It is a sign of appreciation 🙌🏾
@tammygreen8962
@tammygreen8962 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I'm learning different cultures lempires 🤗 I meant no disrespect for I'm on a learning curve because I enjoy your channel I weighed in because here in America we say The African proverb" it takes a village to raise a child" I just related to the words of course appreciate is showing mutual bonding of Families. I hope I understand Looking forward to your next vlog 🇺🇸👸🏽👑👐🏻💛
@unyanyembe7844
@unyanyembe7844 3 жыл бұрын
It is not about that. It is about appreciation and respect
@BF-bb5us
@BF-bb5us 3 жыл бұрын
@@unyanyembe7844 I'm from an African nation and I understand the initial comment. Monetary value and respect is not in tow.
@IamBrendaMarie
@IamBrendaMarie 4 жыл бұрын
Loving your matching outfits 😍
@adelaosterloh68
@adelaosterloh68 4 жыл бұрын
It is a symbol of respect to the family
@Lempies
@Lempies 4 жыл бұрын
Correcto a nice thank you for letting me in your circle. It is a nice a gesture 🙌🏿💯
@moderngrandma3452
@moderngrandma3452 4 жыл бұрын
Please remember that it is not a must in Wambo culture, there are Wambos who do not ask / charge for lobola regardless of your qualities. No culture without change, in some cases now is all about affordability. In some cases they link it to an abuse in marriages etc. Is history.....don't worry you survived it. Your outfits look perfect.... !!!!
@friedashifotoka6556
@friedashifotoka6556 4 жыл бұрын
In my family as well. Dad in Ndonga and Mom is mbandja and they personally do not accept anything when their daughters are getting married. and when I say anything I mean not even cattle that people often get
@Keegodd
@Keegodd 2 жыл бұрын
Lobola shouldn't be to strange, its essentially a dowry, Lobola now a days is more about the understanding of families coming together. I'm a white S. African, lobola is common but now a days family just wants to know that you're going to look after their girl child. Respect African customary law and the traditions of society
@ruthdawang9915
@ruthdawang9915 4 жыл бұрын
You are always fun to watch. I learned a lot about your culture from watching your videos. BTW You rock the matching outfit.
@amakagenevine6360
@amakagenevine6360 4 жыл бұрын
Am new here but am loving this couple bcos they r honest. Yeah in Africa paying bride price good . It's show that d bride is properly married.
@Lempies
@Lempies 4 жыл бұрын
Yhea, it's about culture
@IamBrendaMarie
@IamBrendaMarie 4 жыл бұрын
I see it coming up all the time in channels with KZbinrs from the African countries
@theitembufamily8782
@theitembufamily8782 4 жыл бұрын
You can give as an appreciation but remember you are priceless you are not worthy of the material they ask thou.
@carolynrice-davis4525
@carolynrice-davis4525 4 жыл бұрын
I found this video very enlightening and interesting. The subject matter really generated interesting conversation in the comments section! If nothing else it showed the diversity of marital arrangements and how those arrangements are viewed across the continent!
@iredlougher4123
@iredlougher4123 2 ай бұрын
In the olden days my grandmother said what muttered most was 1.good.character 2.hard working Nowadays Education counts.Some poor families make it like a way of making money. High lobolas can become a hindrance for young men to get married .
@AzizanYunus
@AzizanYunus 4 жыл бұрын
She is worth to buy for, you are lucky man to have it.
@Lempies
@Lempies 4 жыл бұрын
🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
@Lempies
@Lempies 4 жыл бұрын
Thusbsounds like money can really buy happiness 🤔
@hlengykhambule3456
@hlengykhambule3456 4 жыл бұрын
Lovely outfits💞💞💞I always love your topics I enjoyed this being African as well...❤
@Ndapewa1988
@Ndapewa1988 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting discussion Lempie and Ale. Oilombola (iilombola- Oshindonga) mOshikwanyama is quite different. To this date it generally does not involve money but you offer one ox, an ox in particular. This ox is likely to be slaughtered during the first wedding ceremonial day at the girl’s house, which is usually the biggest day. Even in the case they already have oxen to kill, this cow is not necessarily for parents although it is kept in their kraal. Usually, they would always refer it to “ongobe ya ondwa lyeelyelye”. Theoretically, even if it remains with them, the owner is literally the bride.
@Lempies
@Lempies 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this informative comment. I learned something new the cow belongs to the Bride and not to the family. I know that in my culture, traditionally it was only cows but time have changed and some people prefer money because they live in the city. Otherwise I think the traditional meaning was really a good gesture 🤗🥰
@Ndapewa1988
@Ndapewa1988 4 жыл бұрын
Times have changed indeed. It really was (in some occasions remains) a lovely gesture. ❤️❤️❤️
@geminimademoiselle3261
@geminimademoiselle3261 4 жыл бұрын
« Lobola » sounds like a « dowry » it existed in European cultures (a few centuries ago). So not « exclusively » African... I suspect there is something similar in Asia too.
@leahrubia9853
@leahrubia9853 3 жыл бұрын
african culture is so rich
@stillhere2297
@stillhere2297 4 жыл бұрын
It's referred to colorism in the U.S.
@Emmimmaculee6892
@Emmimmaculee6892 4 жыл бұрын
Rubola, bride price or Dowry whatever you call it, is the gifts can be money or cows a man give to bride parents as an appreciation, so there's no specific amount, you pay as you can according to your wallet. Much love from Rwanda 🇷🇼
@unyanyembe7844
@unyanyembe7844 3 жыл бұрын
Not true where I come from. The families negotiate the amount
@IamBrendaMarie
@IamBrendaMarie 4 жыл бұрын
I did not see any ads this time guys. I will watch again Incase I missed them
@helviniita
@helviniita 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Lempies. Great content👍keep it up. But, in an Aawambo culture in general (despite many clans with their differences) we do not hold lobola negotiations per se. The bride price is set flat across all the 8 aawambo tribes to be equivalent to one (1) cow = 1500NAD as per latest Aawambo traditional law. This one cow is standard price whether the lady is more beautiful, highly educated bra bra or not. Our aawambo culture is also considerate of the circumstances of both the intending bride and the groom. Thus, if the groom cannot afford to gift his bride's family a cow, then a male goat or a sheep would do. This latter decision would then depend on the specific clan to which the bride belongs. Oshiwambo culture bears in mind that a man's contribution to the bride's family is in the long-run until death do you apart. So giving a cow or not before marrying an Omuwambo bride is really not a big deal. Just be good at taking care of your wife and supporting as much as possible both families (yours and that of your wife) and blessings from the elders will pour your way.
@helviniita
@helviniita 4 жыл бұрын
@@ndatitangitomasnalukaku8740 You are right. But I being an Omuwambo woman who have respect for our culture and customs I would limit how much info I pour out in public. That said I will answer you in private. What we have shared here is enough for public consumption. I have to protect my culture, despite critics out there.
@MSMDLSKAM
@MSMDLSKAM 4 жыл бұрын
Good info. It would have been better if they just focused on the Aawambo culture and discussed the general lobola in other cultures separately because the video was on “how much I paid for lobola”. In the Aawambo culture, bride price is standard. Now the video leaves an impression that exorbitant amount might have been paid.
@hndakeva
@hndakeva 4 жыл бұрын
Its not so necessary but the elders demand of it so we follow what our parents say...
@namitalasharon3193
@namitalasharon3193 4 жыл бұрын
It depends on how much u love her and it's a symbol showing that parents of your wife have given you a permission to be with their daughter and it shows that they know u as a hasband of they daughter . After pay u are allowed to be with her but if u don't pay u are not allowed to be with her
@sandraatkins2539
@sandraatkins2539 3 жыл бұрын
She is beautiful, classy, articulate, and most importantly, she has a doctorate degree, so I know he paid a fortune. Rightfully so he should follow the vfc tradition.
@Phillymall
@Phillymall 4 жыл бұрын
Alle, what you are describing is what is referred to in America as dowry. We still have the idea that the brides family should pay for the wedding.
@reginamodelo761
@reginamodelo761 4 жыл бұрын
Hi guys!hope you're okay! I guess that is a African tradition and if a non African man want to marry a African woman they will show respect and agree with it ,but me personally i don't agree ....am black Brazilian and we don't have that tradition there ....in a family in Brazil what counts is if the man will treat their daughters right and with love ,respect,if a parent accepts any money 💰 for the daughter that would be really strange and bad ,but is a culture thing ....it is understandable !!!😌 it is a normal thing for a African country ,👍😊
@oma7698
@oma7698 3 жыл бұрын
Many African women won't even marry you if you refuse to pay the bride price (lobola). She will be laughed at for being with a 'cheapskate' and her family for 'dashing' away their daughter:) If a woman goes to live with a man without these marriage rites, it is said that she gave herself away 'cheaper than crayfish,' which you can't take from the market without paying. Some modern families, understanding that the couple is just starting out, will reduce the amount of money to a token (a few pounds/dollars). But you also bring gifts (from a provided list). So, you start saving up from the moment you decide that you will get married one day!
@unyanyembe7844
@unyanyembe7844 3 жыл бұрын
As a black Brazilian, you are 80% likely to have come from Southern Africa. You may not follow our customs now, but you would, if you ancestors had not been taken to Brazil. The culture is for Africans. It is not something everyone not involved has to support.
@migks37
@migks37 4 жыл бұрын
She is beautiful...
@19dulce68
@19dulce68 4 жыл бұрын
Im a Mozambican, yes I Know what it is. In Maputo people do that. But I m from Zambézia, almost in the North, in Alto Molócuè. We don't do that.
@GreenOrchid9
@GreenOrchid9 3 жыл бұрын
It shows that you can take care of the wife and family.✊😷
@Lempies
@Lempies 3 жыл бұрын
Aha 🙌🏾🙌🏾
@Lempies
@Lempies 3 жыл бұрын
But if the price is too high, how much would you have left to take care of your own fam🤔🙆🏾‍♀️
@GreenOrchid9
@GreenOrchid9 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lempies ...that's when elders negotiate and they would have investigated the worth of the family before they choose the girl because it's an offering🤔. That's why they arrange it (before) the couple meet. You are using generational thinking🌱 speak to the elders of your village and get their point of view. Your wonderful 90+ grandma❤ and auties or grandpa would be valuable sources🤔
@shihepopetrina921
@shihepopetrina921 3 жыл бұрын
Hie guys! Nice outfits indeed, you really looking good!
@marilynlawson8216
@marilynlawson8216 4 жыл бұрын
This is the earliest I have been. Uploaded just 10 mins ago!
@beverlyhosein2830
@beverlyhosein2830 4 жыл бұрын
You two are tooo cute! ♥️
@monicahansle2266
@monicahansle2266 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, funny video. Sounds like the same or similar principles in the Bible..Ale is honorable man, respecting the culture, no problem.
@valeriewilliams410
@valeriewilliams410 3 жыл бұрын
There is a verse in the Bible that says.. They will sell their sons for Harlots and their young women for wine..(Joel 3:3).
@tamarajoseph6377
@tamarajoseph6377 4 жыл бұрын
Ale, please pay the interest on the 4 degrees. Bring out that Italian dow 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤣🤣🤣. I just love you guys.
@rendrakw7103
@rendrakw7103 2 жыл бұрын
There is the similar (if not the same) culture in my place, West and South Sulawesi of Indonesia. That is like appreciation to woman's family and as the sign that the man really ready (mature) to shoulder the family needs. Men are not consider to be ready for marriage when he could not bear the family needs. And, it is can be seen from "labola" men give to their bride.
@softlife4700
@softlife4700 Жыл бұрын
Oh wow, interesting perspective but great
@bellateriini9506
@bellateriini9506 4 жыл бұрын
Ali you are very understanding and respectful toward Loyola. You lovely husband, and yes I agree what the hell, but that's culture difference.
@Lempies
@Lempies 4 жыл бұрын
Somethings about culture can't be changed one has to accept and move on. I also dont take cappuccino in the afternoon anymore since I met Ale 🙉
@samogavorto8763
@samogavorto8763 4 жыл бұрын
Does Lobola mean that a young African man cannot marry unless he has a wealthy family.? Now I understand the song "Malaika".....pesa zasumbua roho yangu
@unyanyembe7844
@unyanyembe7844 3 жыл бұрын
Well... How many families would encourage their daughter to marry a homeless and unemployed man in America?
@samogavorto8763
@samogavorto8763 3 жыл бұрын
@@unyanyembe7844 If the young man has not yet the money needed to be able to marry, that does not mean that he is homeless and unemployed. Of course he most probably is not the man the girl's family would want to marry her.
@unyanyembe7844
@unyanyembe7844 3 жыл бұрын
@@samogavorto8763 I do not understand the judgementalism; where they come from, they buy expensive rings which do little other benefit than ostentation
@samogavorto8763
@samogavorto8763 3 жыл бұрын
@@unyanyembe7844 Different priorities
@IamBrendaMarie
@IamBrendaMarie 4 жыл бұрын
Have a beautiful day
@mafunxumalo2634
@mafunxumalo2634 4 жыл бұрын
You go girl you are highly educated USbari should pay lot of lobola
@sandraatkins2539
@sandraatkins2539 3 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@BF-bb5us
@BF-bb5us 3 жыл бұрын
People are people. Your worth should not be attributed to certain factors.
@sandraatkins2539
@sandraatkins2539 3 жыл бұрын
In many parts of the world and in many classes, it is still required.
@gigiamharic468
@gigiamharic468 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm the negative effect of colonization and colorism....The term is colorism as a result of colonization and hatred. ...Hopefully, hubby paid a prime price because of your advanced degrees PLUS PLUS PLUS beautiful dark chocolate skin tone....Loving the matching clothing.
@adassastone670
@adassastone670 4 жыл бұрын
What is Lobola? Are you interviewing me? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I love you guys as always
@maxinelongley6680
@maxinelongley6680 4 жыл бұрын
Alessandro has been an integral part of your posts for a long time. Why don't you consider changing the name of the channel?
@lesleykhamuseb1331
@lesleykhamuseb1331 3 жыл бұрын
I think its okay the way it is, "Lempies".. How else would you suggest they call it?
@marigoldbeam5475
@marigoldbeam5475 4 жыл бұрын
Correction, in India, Bangladesh and Pakistan it is women who must provide a dowry to the man's family. There have been dowry linked deaths in these communities wherever they are in the world, where the husbands' families have apparently abused women and made unending demands for money and jewelry. It appears to be an issue in their communities, how much of an issue I do not know. Is the press sensationalizing it or is it in fact under-reported? If you have any subbies from these communities perhaps they can enlightened us?
@sebentilezanini1085
@sebentilezanini1085 4 жыл бұрын
By the way, love your outfits...have more cloth from Ghana coming through 🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭
@IamBrendaMarie
@IamBrendaMarie 4 жыл бұрын
We don't have to how much you paid Alex. That's your business 😂
@damaq2889
@damaq2889 4 жыл бұрын
I think those are old traditions! Back then you were basically paying for the daughter. It’s the same for many other countries. Honesty people really need to get with the times! Woman being sold! Period! I trade you my daughter for $$$$! Sorry but not sorry! It’s sad it’s still going on and they coloring it with pretty stories!
@Lempies
@Lempies 4 жыл бұрын
I dn't think it is a trade because the amounts that is normally paid is too little. I think there is nothing wrong with giving a gift to your parents in law be it money, cattle or maxbe the best gift would be a worker to do the chores that the other person used to do 🙊
@keokeditswefeliciaphiri638
@keokeditswefeliciaphiri638 4 жыл бұрын
If you understood the meaning behind paying lobola you would know that it’s not a trade it’s deeper than that. It’s a way of connecting two families it’s done like that in African cultures(those who practice it)
@sbusisiweshaba1715
@sbusisiweshaba1715 4 жыл бұрын
You have it wrong, we pay lobola in my culture and it symbolises gratitude. We pay cattle, some of it is used as food at the wedding, some of it is killed and stored as food for the new couple, the other as a gift to the brides parents, when a calf is born it is given to grooms parents as a gift.
@unyanyembe7844
@unyanyembe7844 3 жыл бұрын
That is your opinion. We do not come to your culture to tell you what to do. Respect ours by staying out of it.
@aheughan
@aheughan Ай бұрын
I also think its good because if you have to pay enough, you now respect the relationship more because you had to make a sacrifice to create it. you wont as easily just leave her for something small when you had to pay a certain sum of money. People dont respect things they get for free and dont have to make any sacrifice for.
@sheilasylvain6669
@sheilasylvain6669 3 жыл бұрын
You 2 are soooooo cute. Al what ever you paid she is worth it and more.
@Moshito_m
@Moshito_m 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand lobola. We could have used the money for other important things.🙄
@unyanyembe7844
@unyanyembe7844 3 жыл бұрын
I am sure you do thing differently where you come from
@nabwamimariam9705
@nabwamimariam9705 3 жыл бұрын
Wow I just meet this video but I got too much interested, even in Uganda you have to pay to the family not less than two cows and beyond it depends on the family they asked for you. And when the bride is more educated e. g Doctors, lawyers etc you pay more than two cows and together with other stuffs but most case it also depends on the bride's suggestion because they ask her before they make decision for this and in Uganda is called okwanjula.
@Lempies
@Lempies 3 жыл бұрын
Is a common practice in most of the African continent I would say, in Italy instead back in the days from the bride side there was "dote" the money and the groom side needed to provide the Hause.
@IamBrendaMarie
@IamBrendaMarie 4 жыл бұрын
Ok. You answered my questions. Now I understand it more. Thanks for the explanation
@jenacellos614
@jenacellos614 3 жыл бұрын
So how much usually that the groom must paid to hes soon to be wife family
@Lempies
@Lempies 3 жыл бұрын
Depending on the value that the family place on their daughter, her accomplishments and most important on the role that the person played in the family. If you are taking their only breadwinner.... Be prepared 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
@lettysirkkaiyambo4186
@lettysirkkaiyambo4186 4 жыл бұрын
Its is very very fair enough. My Wambo tribe is cheap, comparing to other cultures. Some Wambo native dont even ask anything.
@paulaachleitner739
@paulaachleitner739 4 жыл бұрын
I dont go with that 😏😒 Many guys cant afford to pay Lobola, It must be cancelled I wont demand any money for my daughter iam not selling my CHILD 🤢🤢🙄🙄
@ndatitangitomasnalukaku8740
@ndatitangitomasnalukaku8740 4 жыл бұрын
At Lettie: you are right..I wont say for us aawambo lobola is cheap:but it isnt also expensive:it is fair. By the way:which native Vamboes don't ask for lobola?shaashi for many vamboes they ngaa ask for a cow..i heard for kwambis:even one cow thigh(oshitako shongombe)can be used as lobola..Then back then people used to add tobacco, and hoes(cultivating tools)and other items for lobola..Nowadays:money can be used as lobola in addition to a cow..I think a cow is still a must..unless pamwe muli muushimba..sorry for the vernacular...
@helviniita
@helviniita 4 жыл бұрын
@@ndatitangitomasnalukaku8740 You are right. Aawambo people do not ask a lot from the groom as a bride price. Basically, a cow is the flat bride price across all aawambo tribes thus far. If one cannot afford a cow, then any other gift that a groom can afford e.g a goat, sheep, chicken, 2 metres textile, a blanket, dry tobbaco, or even nothing at all is acceptable. Just to highlight that if a groom cannot afford to gift the parents of the bride for having raised a good omuwambo woman for him doesn't mean that the parents will deny him the bride. Thats how lenient our culture is in the short run. But long-run the groom becomes part of the bride's extended family and is expected to support the family where he can.
@tavongamataruse5186
@tavongamataruse5186 4 жыл бұрын
wamboo cheap than Zimbabwe lobola
@ndatitangitomasnalukaku8740
@ndatitangitomasnalukaku8740 4 жыл бұрын
@@tavongamataruse5186 tell us abit more about it that side,please...
@hyacinthreno
@hyacinthreno 4 жыл бұрын
No it's not fair.
@charlenelegerton6288
@charlenelegerton6288 4 жыл бұрын
Some people ask for unnecessary material and take advantage of the groom.
@musumorris7891
@musumorris7891 3 жыл бұрын
Very good is not much about the money , showing respect to mom and dad and the rest of the family
@denisewalker7217
@denisewalker7217 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard & have seen some videos with African weddings, where this tradition is done. I have some questions; 1) what if the family does not have enough or any money to pay? Does the wedding still go on? 2) besides the education of that person , each family can decide what they want? I saw a wedding where the bride had to bring over 100 blankets to the family , they requested them. So can it be clothing, animals etc, instead of money? I suppose when one gets involved in a multi-culture relationship , these are topics that differently will be brought up. Great topic!
@ndatitangitomasnalukaku8740
@ndatitangitomasnalukaku8740 4 жыл бұрын
1...Umhmhmh,the family of the groom have to try as much as they can to pay the dowry(lobola).I think negotiations can be made between two families(groom and bride families), but it is very important that as a man he pays lobola..If they are not able to pay:it shows he wont be able to provide a good life for our daughter:and we will be skeptical in giving her out for marriage to such a coward groom..I feel like that reason has kept some men in cohabitation ,they didnt marry maybe because they cannot afford.. 2. I have heard that people in Sri Lanka for instance:its the bride that pays the lobola to the groom family.Like what Ale said that back then in Italy:the bride was supposed to be having a house or so.I think in India:it is the bride that pays dowry too.. Countries like Nigeria bring a long list of things they demand from the groom..so, it varies from culture to country..
@unyanyembe7844
@unyanyembe7844 3 жыл бұрын
They have to negotiate, but honestly, you will not insult the woman's family by saying that you cannot pay lobola.
@charlenelegerton6288
@charlenelegerton6288 4 жыл бұрын
You was that living at home at the time you met your husband.
@__popo99
@__popo99 4 жыл бұрын
Notification 🔔 gang
@valeriewilliams410
@valeriewilliams410 3 жыл бұрын
He acts like He want a return of purchase. .. Does He want to Return to Sender?
@matfejpatrusin4550
@matfejpatrusin4550 3 жыл бұрын
I'm all for being open minded for other cultures, but some things just need to go. If you can't agree with something morally then I think it's just authentic to express it. If cannibalism was part of a culture, would you also do it out of respect? I doubt it. I find this particular custom something that would mean no loss if abandoned completely. But it will not vanish until people start to stand up against it.
@IamBrendaMarie
@IamBrendaMarie 4 жыл бұрын
Good morning from my country to yours 🤗
@sindypetronella
@sindypetronella 2 жыл бұрын
What is your Husband culture ? In Germany the family of the wife pay for white wedding
@Lempies
@Lempies 2 жыл бұрын
Good question 🤔
@aishamuktar157
@aishamuktar157 3 жыл бұрын
This was a really good and interesting discussion. In my Somali community we do it the same too.
@hilyakanikysarah8141
@hilyakanikysarah8141 4 жыл бұрын
Paying Lobola is an old practices even from our ancestors Isaac and Jacob..So it's biblical.
@Lempies
@Lempies 4 жыл бұрын
It was used even in Italy but on the contrary the bride was bringing (la dote) some money or propriety to start the marriage.
@lawrencehammersley4945
@lawrencehammersley4945 3 жыл бұрын
In America we use to do this to but the wife was a Virgin. The family kept her honest . That was considered of value so you did not want your daughter to have bedroom experience. She could get a man if she waited no man back in the day worth marring would want experience woman. So how they figure value of many one she gave her her most Prized possession to someone else for free is beyond me. White use to mean pure . Only pay if they raised good woman . If she is been in the streets let that be her value
@paulaburgess9157
@paulaburgess9157 4 жыл бұрын
For Alex; Because you paid Lobola. Do you now believe you own her? For Lempie; In African culture what happens in the case of divorce, does the wife have to return Lobola?
@paulaburgess9157
@paulaburgess9157 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t be fooled in the western world it was called a dowry. When became the property of the husband’s after marriage. Concept was the same though the details were different
@Lempies
@Lempies 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Paula, who says that I paid lobola? We were trying to stimulate the conversation between our subscribers.. in African culture if you divorce you don't get any money back!
@paulaburgess9157
@paulaburgess9157 4 жыл бұрын
The idea of Lobolas sounded as out dated to me as dowries or arranged marriages. Lempies’ explanation of the honor and respect aspect is very enlightening. A college friend was disowned by her father when she refused his marriage match from the ‘old country’ as she described it. The pain her father’s action caused her was devastating, yet not enough to make her accept an arranged marriage.
@rue80
@rue80 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lempies so you didn't pay lobola? Im really confused. You made a video about something you haven't done
@unyanyembe7844
@unyanyembe7844 3 жыл бұрын
Unlike in your culture, divorce seldom happens. Further more, all this sanctimonious yakking is belied by the fact that as an expectation of marriage, you expect the man to buy you an expensive ring, so do not pretend as if your marriages are free, in the rare cases that they happen
@marilynlawson8216
@marilynlawson8216 4 жыл бұрын
Alle, I think Lempie is worth more than any amount of Loyola could be.
@Lempies
@Lempies 4 жыл бұрын
I will copy this and send it to my uncle 😅😉🤗
@marilynlawson8216
@marilynlawson8216 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lempies Yes, do it😊😊😊
@user-wt4wj2ig7r
@user-wt4wj2ig7r 3 ай бұрын
Yes u have to according to the tradition
@hopudesu9655
@hopudesu9655 4 жыл бұрын
yea it's colourism
@tinkieie4585
@tinkieie4585 3 жыл бұрын
i love different culture, thank god for the melting pot. truly a gift from the lord.... god bless you 2 .
@jimmiekemp6753
@jimmiekemp6753 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I thought you were telling us the price, why have that in the title?
@eleonorarensch2978
@eleonorarensch2978 4 жыл бұрын
I have the feeling Ale didn’t pay anything 😂😂😂😂
@sandraatkins2539
@sandraatkins2539 3 жыл бұрын
I never thought he was going to tell the exact amount. It is not our business.
@mickyb2907
@mickyb2907 4 жыл бұрын
Funny ending! 😅
@benmarx1179
@benmarx1179 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's ok to pay for your bride. need to be open minded about every culture
@valerieshinia8526
@valerieshinia8526 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@maghomafaustinus3254
@maghomafaustinus3254 3 жыл бұрын
lobola its like buying someone or selling someone
@Lempies
@Lempies 3 жыл бұрын
I can understand what you are saying. Sometimes people make expensive demands that in the end the bride has to stay married no matter what 🙆🏾‍♀️
@unyanyembe7844
@unyanyembe7844 3 жыл бұрын
Your opinion not our. You do what your culture does, we will do what ours does
@marthamagaisa1112
@marthamagaisa1112 4 жыл бұрын
You didn't say how much you paid for your beautiful wife Alex 😄
@IamBrendaMarie
@IamBrendaMarie 4 жыл бұрын
The light skinned thing is colonial thinking. We have it here too. Light skin and a certain texture hair. In certain Caribbean countries girl bleach their skin to feel beautiful and to be accepted. They feel being light skin gives them better opportunities which might be true because here it does.
@marilynlawson8216
@marilynlawson8216 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, bleaching their skin might give better opportunities to a girl, but, it certainly gives them a close acquaintance to skin cancers! I guess the exchange is worth it for them?
@IamBrendaMarie
@IamBrendaMarie 4 жыл бұрын
@@marilynlawson8216 Girl they n thinking straight 😭🤦. Years from now they will have big regret 😥
@enitsdickerson398
@enitsdickerson398 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you Brenda, this light skin and good hair thing didn’t start with us. Personally, I am dark skinned and my hair is kinky. I am Beautiful and so is Lempies. What else can I say, Dark skin ROCK🤗🤷🏽‍♀️
@eleonorarensch2978
@eleonorarensch2978 4 жыл бұрын
@Brenda Benthem The lighter skin is Indeed colonial thinking. Some African girls in the Netherlands are also bleaching their face/skin. This can cause cancer.
@marilynlawson8216
@marilynlawson8216 4 жыл бұрын
@@IamBrendaMarie ,before leaving Jamaica in 2008, I read in the Jamaican newspapers of women flooding theUWI hospial in Kingston where there were not really enough doctors or resources to treat those cases. I guess most of them needed a whole body skin transplantation and grafting,if such a thing was possible! I really don't know. What a situation!
@mirandabisnou1307
@mirandabisnou1307 4 жыл бұрын
But who determines the price the man pays?
@nnanakebopile
@nnanakebopile 4 жыл бұрын
Inlove with the afro hair and the dress.
@namasebo231
@namasebo231 4 жыл бұрын
My husband is African but Lobola is not part of his culture, but my friends and I educated him about this part of my culture . In the end my husband and I paid for my lobola.
@mickylky9710
@mickylky9710 4 жыл бұрын
Not fair at all u paying lobola for ur self incredible if he doesnt follow ur culture he should make a plan even paying one thing ukangaziwe for him to be known only
@mickylky9710
@mickylky9710 4 жыл бұрын
Hes an african he knows about kangaziwe he should make a plan
@namasebo231
@namasebo231 4 жыл бұрын
micky lky Yes he is African but the concept of Lobola does not exist in his culture.
@mickylky9710
@mickylky9710 4 жыл бұрын
What type of culture is that
@charmainej4820
@charmainej4820 2 жыл бұрын
@@namasebo231 what culture is that please👀
@PinkPortal
@PinkPortal Жыл бұрын
3:15 I personally don’t think it’s fair. I understand it’s a tradition but to basically buy a wife makes her seem like an object. To especially pay the parents for what? To prove you love her. You committed to marrying her. Nobody should be paying parent to get with another person that immoral and especially treating the man like a credit card. Not like a human who loves a women and wants to spend his life with her not a new asset they got to suck off of
@damaq2889
@damaq2889 4 жыл бұрын
🤣 I love you guys💞
@kevinriley5736
@kevinriley5736 3 жыл бұрын
HE NEVER SAYS!!! that was a waste of 15 min
@IamBrendaMarie
@IamBrendaMarie 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for not telling us😂😂😂. It is enough to know that you are a poor man now😂
@marilynlawson8216
@marilynlawson8216 4 жыл бұрын
😆
@marilynlawson8216
@marilynlawson8216 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@IamBrendaMarie
@IamBrendaMarie 4 жыл бұрын
@@marilynlawson8216 😂😂😂
@eleonorarensch2978
@eleonorarensch2978 4 жыл бұрын
Brenda Bentham 🤣🤣🤣
@rhondae8222
@rhondae8222 2 жыл бұрын
Judging women according to skin color is colorism. This is wrong. Black women deal with colorism within the Black community all the time. Lempies, please don't try to justify this, because it dehumanizes dark-skin Black women.
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