How Much do People Make in Spain?

[@blurayffan66]

It's a shame salaries are low in Spain and so many leave the country. But even those who remain are super people and so intelligent. The young people of Spain are amazing...and Spain is incredible. The country is ruined by it's Government and corrupt and unqualified politicians. So much potential in Spain if only they could find good politicians.

[@StuartMedinaMiltimore]

The country has been ruined by the euro

[@andersnielsen6044]

The people have the politicians they vote for..

[@Javifoto]

Expecting anything from a politician is the mistake.

[@lukasx543]

@@andersnielsen6044 But there is no good ones to vote for, so we simply vote for the less bad one...

[@Lacteagalaxia]

As a Spaniard i do not acept that a fpreigner says exagerated and catastrphically that wages are low depending on how you look in France the life minimum is 30% or more expensive that here and Great Britain more; and the global quality of life ranking that includes salaries Spain is n16 place above USA 17 UK 22 or France 30 and Italy 37 for exemple

[@SalanIsmail]

I'm new zealand person. I have been living Spain with more then 18. Years .I love Spain 🇪🇸. God bless Spain ❤

[@Musclehustlerz]

But can you speak spanish?

[@Ali-qc3ym]

you’re definitely not a newzeland person with that English

[@asenaspov]

I loved that the video had both Spanish and English subtitles because I’m learning Spanish ♥️

[@-xw3bd]

me too

[@sukumaranr8114]

Could you teach me

[@irdcs]

What people don't realize is that once you add the cost of education and of health related expenses etc, 2000€ in Spain equal 4000$ in the USA. I've lived in both places and it's a pretty fare estimation.

[@ernestuz]

I was going to say the same, $600 per month for health insurance, $750 pension and insurance and $1500 for education are quite average in the US.

[@CarlosPerez-zf1uy]

The difference is that when you pay that in the US at least they got nice education and good schools not like the ones we got here that look like prisons, also they dont have to wait for 6 months to have a check with the doctor, so we are paying for nothing.

[@dansan9858]

@@CarlosPerez-zf1uy Good schools in US? Are you on drugs? The schools are a disaster in the US. Full of propaganda and bad teachers. Like, what?

[@chychywoohoo]

Lol no

[@dansan9858]

@@CarlosPerez-zf1uy Since when? LoL.

[@Heellooo_]

Por si repetís la encuesta, aquí va una sugerencia: Pienso que en las encuestas de salarios siempre es importante preguntar si la gente se refiere al sueldo neto, bruto o si el valor mensual lo reciben en 12 o 14 pagas, porque si no, la información está incompleta. Es decir, yo preguntaría: ¿cuál es tu sueldo bruto/neto anual?

[@miquelcm5136]

No tiene ningún valor, la gente miente más que habla. Que risa los comentarios del típico americano que gana 100 mil al año, se cree que es mejor que el resto.

[@canariasman]

@leonardodiaz Correcto

[@pedrofmc0000]

La mayor parte de la gente habla de salario neto. La gente en general mira lo que le llega al bolsillo y punto.

[@Heellooo_]

@pedrofmc0000 sí, pero precisamente para no tener que confiar en un "la mayor parte de la gente", es mejor preguntar a qué se refieren exactamente y así no hay dudas. Simplemente se trata de hablar con rigor y precisión.

[@pedrofmc0000]

@@Heellooo_ No conozco ni una sola persona que diga lo que gana en "bruto", al menos no en España.

[@discinfiltrator]

I would like to see this same questionary made at a smaller city like Burgos or Albacete or Caceres and see what happens. Madrid and Barcelona are really exceptions when it comes to pricing and salaries

[@alejandrop.s.3942]

If you have an stable, reliable job, you live much better in a small province capital such as Soria rather than in Madrid. The biggest cities are best for entertainment and spend a weekend from time to time, not for living. They're hell-like when it comes to house-pricing, horaries, traffic jams...to each his own, but that's my opinion.

[@pprey6599]

At the coast you get the worst of both worlds, high prices in housing because of tourism, low wages because it is seasonal and not highly skilled. The result is long hours!

[@lepoldbuttersstotch]

This would be the case in many countries I imagine, when the cost of living doesn't eat up half your salary

[@bigbubba0439]

Yes, and I think even Oviedo would be interesting to see, since that's somewhere I might think of living. It's small enough to not have the money issues that the big cities like Madrid have, but it's not so small that there aren't any economic opportunities or there's a lack of people

[@malon4441]

So i am from Murcia, there is even harder to find a job, and in most of the cases the salary is usually the legal minimum and the conditions are poor. There are some exceptions, if you have more than 5 years of experience, if you have a technical degree or have had experience abroad.

[@Morzo97]

I live in a small city in Spain (not everything here is Madrid or Barcelona) and with little more than 2.000€/month I can have a great life, buy a house, travel around the world... Not luxury, but the rest it's all at my hand. Together with my girlfriend we spend less than 15% of our income in rent, and that's fair

[@Marius-vs4yj]

en qué ciudad por curiosidad?

[@Morzo97]

@@Marius-vs4yj Gijón, pero el estilo y nivel de vida es igual en Oviedo, Coruña, Vigo, Santander, Vitoria... Ciudades de menos de 0'5 M de personas, muy habitables y con la naturaleza al lado. El clima no es tan bueno pero de todas formas mucho mejor que en Alemania 😂

[@booby163]

2000 netos?

[@Streleny]

Netto?

[@Morzo97]

Sí, netos

[@llw2606]

Spain is a very beautiful country with friendly people. I would love to go there again.

[@hayajnehsdiaries9405]

I'm going there soon. Planning to settle there tbh

[@dannmm6745]

Some people talk about how low salaries are but nobody talks about how ridiculously high taxes are. Example: the employer pays 40,000€ annually but the worker gets less than 1,800€ a month.

[@Heellooo_]

With a gross salary of 40k € you get a net monthly salary of 2475 € (about 30k € annually)

[@dannmm6745]

@@Heellooo_ If the worker’s gross salary is 40k the employer pays more than 54k… you didn’t understand my comment. The worker’s gross salary and the amount the employer has to pay are 2 different things…you are missing 35%…

[@EduEspasa_]

​@@dannmm6745you are the one who explain it poorly. You stated that the employer pays 40k (gross) , this means that the employee will receive around 2350€ net per month. Which it is a lot of taxes anyway, but less than you mentioned.

[@dannmm6745]

@@EduEspasa_ The employer pays the worker’s gross salary PLUS “cotizaciones sociales” which is 36 % of worker’s gross salary… This is the main the problem, many people like you, don’t even know that…

[@EduEspasa_]

@@dannmm6745 a ver, te lo explico en castellano, porque no te enteras en inglés. El problema es que te explicas mal, si tu dices que el empleador paga 40k al año, te estás refiriendo a que tu cobras alrededor 2400 euros al mes netos, punto. Si resulta que te estabas refiriendo al bruto tras impuestos de la empresa, eso es algo totalmente distinto de lo que trata el vídeo y de lo que cualquier persona normal entiende de tu mensaje inicial. A partir de ahí, yo soy muy consciente de lo que pago yo y lo que las empresas pagan, y puedo estar más o menos de acuerdo en lo que se supone que quieres decir, pero no te has explicado bien, no es una cuestión de números o impuestos, es saber expresarte.

[@khrystynahrynkevych7440]

I did study in Spain , people are amazing ! We had scholarships like people’s minimum salary, was really good for us for normal life .

[@zull2281]

how to study there, i wanna study in spain to next year 😌

[@khrystynahrynkevych7440]

@@zull2281 Erasmus

[@TheHolyActivist]

It's always important to clarify if its before or after tax. I think some people gave their net salary, others their pre-tax salary.

[@hbidal]

People was tslking after tax

[@arnie9913]

I think it's only in the US that people think by gross salary. Because you can deduct stuff from your taxes and it depends on your state.

[@mellamofields4275]

In Spain, normally when people talk about monthly salary is after taxes, and if they talk abour year salary it normally is gross salary

[@whispie.]

​@@arnie9913in the Nordic countries everyone talks about gross monthly salary

[@frederic6998]

It's what they get every month before paying their yearly taxes.

[@Sergi.Galiano]

I'm 100% Spanish but living in Dubai. I'll tell you, Spain has a LOT of money, but our government is borderline retarded. Zero future thinking and more corruption than people want to admit. Our best people are forced to leave the country and this keeps our economy down. The mentality at work is also much more relaxed which is both good and bad. If you want to make money leave, if you want to enjoy LIFE stay.

[@Afrocreolebombshelle]

Is this the same issues in London ?

[@dexagalapagos]

I'm from the US and can confirm our government is borderline retarded also.

[@هانيبشري-ص7س]

What do you do in Dubai for living??

[@dino9434]

Bro, I'm from UK but half spanish love spain and would like to move there for the quality of life, weather, food, culture which is a million times better then here, I'm also considering Dubai though but I don't think the culture will be as authentic as it's quite an artificial place what's your opinion how do the two compare? Let's say I have a job already sorted.

[@andersnielsen6044]

@@dino9434 Dubai is for the people who support ISIS and the Islamic world.. Spain is for those who support freedom and human rights.

[@DMJ-01]

Spain is a great country. It can be hard at first to settle down. But where it isn’t? Cost of leaving? I come from London and it is hugely expensive there. I moved to Madrid, after a month I got a job and after two years got a mortgage. Right years has passed and I’m still happy here.

[@l0p3z4r]

the Argentinian journalist was so nice to listen to

[@ogbkballa]

The job market is rough, I have some GENERAL observations as someone living in Spain: 1. The housing market is insane in Barcelona and many areas of madrid as well 2. Andalucía has almost NO decent jobs.. just tourism and hospitality.. except Malaga which has a growing tech industry 3. In areas of Northern spain, Barcelona, Madrid, Valencia, and Malaga you can earn a good salary (by spanish standards). 4 if you live outside of Barcelona/madrid and make over 1,400 a month youll live really well

[@O1012-u7q]

How could you possibly live well on 1400 euros? In costa del sol, I have to pay half of that to get 4 palm trees trimmed annually - an afternoons work for a couple of guys. Locksmith charges 100 to re-key a door lock. Gas is 75 per tank on an economy car. Food is not particularly cheap, either. The only cheap things i’ve found in Spain is various types of insurance, and body repair on a car.

[@ogbkballa]

@@O1012-u7q generally in areas with large British/german communities it's expensive as well like certain places on the Costa del sol, mallorca, alicante

[@eprof8230]

I agree, even these small job charges in Spain are shockingly expensive, even compared with the UK. Veterinary in Spain is also insane, the general medical system doesn't work, so, you Have to buy a private one, etc., etc, etc @@O1012-u7q

[@andreii_v9908]

​@@O1012-u7qim a forest ranger in the Alto Tajo zone (guadalajara), i live in a small town there and i earn 1500€ per month and i can save every month 300€. Its all about the zone and knowing how to live according to your economy level.

[@Dontgo5]

"the housing market is insane" doesn't mean or explain anything

[@flanker6282]

The problem of underpaid jobs is very very big here in Greece too. Thousands of competent and skillfull young people abandon Greece each year and move to more organised developed countries!

[@nikitazogas3676]

Are you folks doing anything about it?

[@info781]

Nothing wrong with that, going to other counties in the EU to gain experience coming back home when you can work remote, save capital or have a business ideas

[@sa.377]

Reminds me of italy and greece! Lovely mediterranean countries

[@JerreMuesli]

Where tourism is king. I wonder what those countries will do when everyone starts visiting colder climates due to climate change and forest fires

[@1badmotheru]

@@JerreMueslinever happening

[@Andre-kf8iq]

@@JerreMuesli Where did you get that tourism is king as far as Italy is concerned? You do know that Italy has the 8th largest economy in the world right? And with a nation poor in resources and high in corruption. Imagine that mate. And the climate change angle? Really?

[@carlomontecarlo7881]

You're mixing up very different countries

[@elenaizquierdo9060]

"0 HOUR CONTRACTS" DO EXIST IN THE UK. There are airline workers who suffer, not knowing when work will be available and how much money they'll earn. I know 2 people in that situation. As a Spanish Brit I live and work in Madrid. I've been here for many years and am very happy. SENDING LOVE AND SUPPORT TO THOSE WHO ARE STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET WHEREVER YOU ARE.

[@kameel28]

Work-life balance in the Netherlands: currently working 4*9hours = 36 hours and 3 days weekend. 3/4 days working from home and 1/4 in the office. Love it.

[@anselmo4952]

Nice and too is a narco-state, acording with claims of one of his police chiefs.

[@peperodriguezalcaraz2609]

Can I ask how much you get paid yearly?

[@goncalo.ferreira]

Tell me which company and I'll steal your job

[@Tom-vm2nm]

@@peperodriguezalcaraz2609 Same here (Netherlands) but only from home I guess since I live in Valencia and work for a Dutch company. Average salary in the Netherlands is 3300eu a month without taxes taken off, which would be around 2600 - 2700 after taxes.

[@ionutmarianrichea5138]

@@Tom-vm2nm really curious about that.. isn't it "ilegal" to permanently live in X country in you are hired in Y country? that's what I heard at least

[@geri1024]

One of the best countries to live with the coolest people's in the world respect to spanish people from 🇦🇱

[@toniomz1205]

Soy de venezuela y recuerdo que para mi hablar de euros era inalcanzable oir salarios de €1k o €3k al mes sonaba a riqueza pura...ahora vivo en USA y trabajo como ing y a pesar que los taxes en California son brutales ya €3k al mes no suena a tanto.

[@Blood4gains]

Con mil euros en españa apenas te da para vivir tú solo porque todos los alquileres ya valen eso a noser que te vayas a un zulo, de riqueza la verdad que nada aquí los salarios no llegan a 3000 ni de coña, lo normal son 1,100 , 1200 y sin poder ahorrar nada

[@casanova8762]

@@Blood4gains ese el salario mínimo, no el normal - y en España puedes ahorrar incluso con el salario minimo, con una habitacion de 200-300 euros

[@Zelielz1]

Con 3k en California eres pobre.

[@angelfeliz4632]

This is depressing, me tengo que volver a España por x motivo desde Bélgica y estoy cagado pensando en tener que ganar esa m*erda, es que como está el alquiler es literalmente imposible vivir cómodamente.

[@azuresa5356]

@@angelfeliz4632 da mucha rabia, verdad?

[@fumingmars]

Landed in Spain just few months before the onset of Pandemic. 3K salary - outstanding quality of life. Missing the country now 😢

[@abdullahbutt4166]

3k salary in which profession?

[@fumingmars]

software profession@@abdullahbutt4166

[@jakearanas3017]

how much do you save per month after you pay the bills (electricity, rent flat, foods ,etc)

[@fumingmars]

1000-1300 euros

[@yasefmiomo9128]

No existe la previsión a medio ni largo plazo para las incorporaciones. Los europeos acostumbrados a incorporarse a meses vista, es ciencia ficción en España. Además, la organización, el cumplir tu horario sin ser mal visto o exigir un mínimo de planificación son aspectos utópicos. Lo de pagar lo mismo por un apartamento en Madrid que en el norte de Europa, cobrando la tercera parte, ya deja sin palabras. España es maravillosa para las vacaciones.

[@Azog150]

It's true that wages in Spain are lower. But it is at least party balanced out by two things: 1) Lower cost of living (even in the big cities like Madrid and Barcelona, AFTER rent is paid). 2) Great public sphere. There is so much you can do in Spain whilst having little money, compared to countries like the UK where practically everything is privatised and requires some kind of entrance fee. Here in Spain you have public festivals, plazas, playas, mountains, petanca courts, football and basketball courts, all within easy reach via walking or cheap public transporrt. Even someting as simple as public benches are seriously lacking in the UK. Here they are everywhere. Of course this doesn't mean some people don't struggle, but salary is not the be all and end all to a good life. I earn less here in Spain than I would in the UK, but my life is better.

[@CarlosPerez-zf1uy]

1 lower cost of living is a lie, rents are all time high and people are unable to buy or rent nothing, that is why the stay at parents home until 30s, also great public sphere is also a lie, 6 months for a check with the doctor, half of the populations has a private insurance because otherwise you just have to wait months.

[@quentin.aventure]

The cost of living isn’t that low compared to other European countries. The public infrastructures are way better in France for example. ( free education, aids, free healthcare system

[@Azog150]

@@quentin.aventure I don't know how good the free Spanish education system is (although I will be having kids here so will find out) - let alone compared to France. Uniiversity degrees are heavily subsidised compared to the UK. But the Spanish healthcare system is very good. It is consistently ranked one of the best healthcare systems in the world, and better than that in France. It is one of the reasons Spain now has the highest life expectancy in the world (perhaps THE ultimate indicator of quality of life). As for cost of living, I'm sure there are other cheaper countries. But even in Barcelona, a beer in a bar does not cost me more than €2.50 (at least double in France), eating out at a restaurant rarely costs much more than €20 a head for a nice meal with drinks (you're lucky to get one dish for €20 in France), it's about €1.50 for a coffee, and so on. My electricity biills are also a fraction of the price of the UK. I don't own a car or drive here because I don't need to, due to the public transport and cycling infrastructure being so good. That's another large expense removed.

[@javixuPichus]

Si eres extranjero te recomiendo que vivas a las afueras, unos 40 km del centro de Madrid, porque tenemos un tren de cercanías maravilloso y muy económico en caso de que no dispongas de vehículo propio. Vivirás en un piso bien hermoso y grande pagando lo mismo que los que viven en Madrid centro para muy pocos metros cuadrados. No hay que vivir en Madrid ciudad si quieres prosperar.

[@alejandrofernandi1317]

Totalmente. Salir de Madrid, aun dependiendo de Madrid, te permite ganar en calidad de vida... A menos que te puedas permitir un apartamento cerca de tu trabajo.

[@alejandrop.s.3942]

Y si consigues trabajo en una capital de provincia con buena calidad de vida y servicios decentes, mejor que mejor.

[@pilarubedapuerta6367]

Mi primer sueldo fueron alrededor de 800 euros por 2004, trabajando unas 36 horas y al pasar los años lo máximo que te ofrecen por 40 horas son 1200/1300. Si te suben la categoría o te especializas en un trabajo de carrera un poco más pero ya me dirás hacienda el palo que te pegan. Pues como han subido los precios...sobre todo en comunidades autónomas de turismo pagas lo mismo que si fueras un turista. Prepara el 50 % de tu sueldo para alquiler sin agua y luz.

[@catalintentea]

​@@andres.giacominise refiere a horas semanales.

[@MBlueBrother]

@@andres.giacomini No sé que parte has entendido mal, pero sin título ganar 800/1000 semanales es una FUMADA absoluta. Nadie, absolutamente nadie gana eso sin título (tal vez, alguien dedicado a sectores artísticos y con mucho éxito, o digital, como influencer o programador). El salario MEDIO es de 1000-1200 euros MENSUALES en España.

[@BlackHoleSpain]

@@andres.giacomini En Alemania siempre se ha ganado 2-3 veces más que en España

[@MarichuPuhl]

@@andres.giacomini Trabajo en la costa del sol los sueldos aqui de un trabajo normal (tiendas,camarero,supermercado,conseje,limpiadora) ronda 1200, un alquiler de un apartamento un solo cuarto ronda ahora 700 a 800 e calcula...

[@MarichuPuhl]

@@andres.giacomini mi novio tiene 2 carreras y ni de eso a podido trabajar vivo en un sitio turístico porque es donde nací. Pero ojo esque aquí se a puesto caro hasta lo sitios donde vivía gente normal como yo. Aquí un dejártelo no está por 450 esta por 900

[@DavidPerez-eu1tt]

This video would be very different in smaller towns. People will think that 2k or 3k is a usual salary here.

[@mikicerise6250]

It's not even usual in Madrid. These are privileged people.

[@BlackHoleSpain]

When you check the statistics, the most common salary in Spain is 1350 euros

[@pneron2032]

I lo e Spain. What a fantastic country. I always feel happy in Spain

[@Telexx4]

Vivir en Madrid a dia de hoy es un horror a nivel económico. No se puede ganar 1000 euros y pagar 900 euros de alquiler+ gastos. Hay que compartir piso, pasar frío para no pagar calefacción y comer basura que cueste barato. NO se vive bien en Madrid. Se sobrevive.

[@Felipedethe]

Eso es lo que pasa cuando todo el mundo quiere vivir en la capital

Es que en madrid no puedes vivir independizado si ganas el salario mínimo, es como querer vivir en nueva york cobrando el mínimo que se cobra en los EU, hay que ser consecuente y si el curro solo lo hay aquí pues te toca vivir a las afueras o en comunidades vecinas y moverte hasta conseguir mejores salarios, lo que deberiamos hacer igualmente es exigir que las demás comunidades empiecen a atraer a las empresas con buenas politicas fiscales para que no todo el trabajo venga a Madrid, Barcelona o Pais Vasco y detrás venga todo el mundo, que dején de perder población joven y en cambio la atraigan con bajos precios y ofertas de trabajo, pero en vez de hacer eso se persigue lo contrario, putear a Madrid y subir impuestos para subvencionar todo. Es una pena para la gente que no llega a más del salario mínimo, pero es lo que hay.

[@eduardo7562]

Claro, y tampoco te puedes comprar un Ferrari, ni un yate, ni un avión privado, si ganas 1000 euros deberás adaptarte a ese dinero, o ganar más.

[@wehrwolf1933]

​@@eduardo7562claro, porque comer todos los días y tener un techo donde dormir, es un lujo, igual que tener un Ferrari. Deja de decir tonterías anda

[@piloto88ed]

El salario promedio de Madrid es casi de 2000 euros en 14 pagas, si tú eres un inútil que sólo vales para ganar el salario mínimo del país no es culpa de nadie más.

[@anemacicior1017]

Tengo 27 años trabajo de administración, trabajando 40h a la semana, EN SAN SEBASTIÁN. Y sí, soy una de las que cobra 1000€. No llega para vivir y menos en la ciudad más cara de España.

[@alejandrop.s.3942]

Cómo es que ganas menos del salario mínimo?

[@oritoab3069]

@@alejandrop.s.3942 1000 netos en 14 pagas es aprox el smi

[@ComandoGallego]

1000€ trabajando 40h a la semana teniendo experiencia literalmente imposible, estás mintiendo o hay algo mal ahí... Si es así cambia de empresa...

[@mr-vet]

My wife and I (live in US) plan to retire in Spain or Italy-or split time between both in the next 5-8 years. We’ll be able to live more comfortably than in the US on my military retirement & disability and her pension-and later on n]both collect social security retirement.

[@O1012-u7q]

Make sure you understand how Spain treats US pensions. It can be brutal.

[@GerardC75]

Keep in mind that most people are answering with the net monthly figures, you also have to take into account that in Spain is common to have 14 and even 15 payments a year, so it is NOT equal to your countries, for example 2400 in Spain could equal 3000 in a 12 period payments in other countries

[@mmd8075]

Not 15. Spain pays 14 months which is mostly equivalent as paying by the hour in the US, thats why the 14 months was created.

[@GerardC75]

@@mmd8075 aprende a leer antes de responder tonterías

[@mmd8075]

@@GerardC75 wtf? Spain doesnt have 15 payments wtf you on about.

[@Tareek23]

That was in the past, now a days most of us gets a 12 wages a year. So they are counting 12 wages, not 14

[@missl.3343]

​@@mmd8075Yes we do. I have 16 pays a year and I work in a very well known company with an average salary. 2 extra pays in june and december, and the other 2 are prorated.

[@antoniopajaronmartin8371]

El salario mínimo son 1080 ,como son 14 pagas serian 1260 euros al mes , y depende de donde vivas si ye vas a un pueblo a las afueras de tu ciudad uefes vivir aceptablemente y con mayor calidad de vida

[@kararkhan8720]

I have been Spain many times and have interest there as well. While this video make it seem the situation bad in Spain in terms of salaries in reality things for most part is balanced out due to the low cost of living. Generally speaking i would rather to make $1500 a month is Spain than $3000 in the US or Canada. The value you get for low salary there is 10 times superior to the carp you get for your money in the US.

[@camillainsonshine]

I would agree! I know it may sound crazy to people outside the US but $3000 is insufficient to live in the U.S, rent is over 50% monthly pay and that’s without even spending money on frivolous things like eating a good meal out or paying for Netflix. This is just only basic necessities. If you are single with no children , Uncle Sam ( el gobierno) will raid your pay before it hits your bank account.

[@McGrogansSchool]

I’ve lived in Ireland, London, Munich, New York and San Francisco and I have to say Spain is the hardest place to make a buck. However, having said that the quality of life is amazing if you can make ends meet. Very good for families.

[@JavierSuarezJournal]

No shit, you are comparing it to some of the most top cities of the world

[@zull2281]

​@@JavierSuarezJournalin USA even security can make $7000+/month 😂

[@capybaraponque611]

cut the crap@@zull2281

[@Lavabug]

@@zull2281 Security for the president maybe. It took me a PhD and a government job in meteorology to make $7k

[@marcsteppi2192]

Life in London or Munich is much more expensive than every place in Spain !! Daily costs in Spain very very less

[@e.h274]

Love Spain, Greetings from Azerbaijan

[@FriiInfo]

As I usually say to people: don't come to Spain for the money - come to Spain in spite of the money 🇪🇸

[@triky5384]

I can see why. I knew salaries were low, but not that low

[@FriiInfo]

​ @triky5384 It's interesting really, because if you're employed on a regular contract, your employer pays the social security on your behalf. And that is a LOT of money. So in a sense, the salaries appear to be artificially low due to these payments that you never see. At the end of the day what matters is your take-home pay, but most people have a chock when they realize just how much their employer is paying to have them employed.

[@zull2281]

​@@FriiInfowhat about for study, i have plan wanna study in spain next year, and im still learning spanish 🙂

[@FriiInfo]

@@zull2281 I think Spain is a great place to study

[@jaire511]

​@@zull2281You shouldn't go to Spain

[@Zeequencha]

A lot of those stated salaries are Gross which is before all deductions. Most would be getting 1500-2000 NET.

[@Answersonapostcard]

Surely it depends on the city, the industry, level of experience a person has, job role, many different factors. Young waiters will earn less than experienced medical surgeons, etc. Compared to the Uk where salaries can be higher (although depending on the company, age, experience, industry etc- there are lots of people on 'zero hours' contracts and people working as food couriers), property in Spain is a lot cheaper to buy, and you can find a 3 course meal for 10 euros or less, where as in the UK this will cost £20-30 and it won't be as good as the food in Spain.

[@BlackHoleSpain]

Those prices are over. Nowadays you won't find anything for less than 14-15€... and that's only Mon-Fri lunch meal. No dinners, no weekends for that price. The problem here is that skilled white-collar jobs, like an engineer or a physician, hardly get over 2500€/month. And when you're over 50K/year, you're considered a "rich" person by the Treasury, and thus taxed some confiscatory 46% of your wages, making your life even more miserable. That's why underground economy is huge over here.

[@Answersonapostcard]

@@BlackHoleSpain During my time in Spain this year I saw plenty of 'menu del diá' 10/11 euro offers. Maybe they are more expensive during high season. It is still a lot cheaper than food prices in the UK. It's very difficult to find good quality, freshly cooked food over here. Every time I go to Spain I lose weight! As for the salary difference, maybe this is why some people choose to live and work in the UK (even though cost of living is arguably higher than in Spain and our weather is awful so there's less actual quality of life...)

[@Heellooo_]

@@BlackHoleSpainwith a 50k € gross salary you pay 28.7% of taxes, don't exaggerate/lie

[@BlackHoleSpain]

@@Answersonapostcard The last time I saw those prices was around 2010

[@travelvideos]

@@BlackHoleSpain Interesting. I am Eastern European and underground economy is big here too (wages in envelopes, rent in cash only etc.). What are some examples of underground economy there ?

[@monikaszustak8727]

En Polonia, la media nacional es de 7.500 PLN, o aproximadamente 1.600 euros (40 horas a la semana.

[@MataGigantes]

If someone wants to find out about salaries in a country it is always better to consult official data than to ask people's subjective opinions. The average salary in Spain is 25,896 gross per year. The minimum wage is 1,080 euros per month (but in 14 payments), 15,120 euros per year.

[@akademivetoplum3764]

I agree. can you send me the link of the source? Median salary what really matters

[@BlackHoleSpain]

@@akademivetoplum3764 What's the difference between "average" and "median"? In Spanish it's the same word.

[@vukasinnn]

@@BlackHoleSpain average is when you sum everyone and divide by number of people. Median is what most people earn (like what ~ 90% of people earn) lets say 9 people earn ~ 1000$ and 1 earns ~ 5000$ Average is 1400$ but median is 1000$ cause most of people earn 1000$ now you see why median is muy importante!

[@Lavabug]

People stating their own salary is not a "subjective opinion". The bulk of the population is "mileurista" (~1000 euros/month for the non-Spaniards) which is way below EU average in purchasing power.

[@kuba6156]

@@vukasinnn sorry to say that, but you're wrong. What you're talking about is dominant (most often paid). Median is actually the middle value. Average is sum divided by number of people. Median is the value that divides values in half. Let's say that there are 5 people, earning: 1000e, 1300e, 2000e, 2500e, 3600e. Average is 2080e but the median is 2000e because it's in the middle. 50% earn less than 2000 and 50% earn more than 2000. That's why it's better than average because 70 or 80% of people could earn less than average also dominant can be the minimum wage because it's most common while other numbers can differ by 1,2,3 euros and don't count as the same. Examples: Let's say 1000e is minimum wage. People could earn: 1000, 1200, 1300, 1000, 1000, 1000, 1205, 1302, 1000, 5000, 6200, 8310, 1000, 1325, 1300, 1305, 1315, 1310 Now the average is 2059 Median is 1303,5 (we have 18 values so middle is (1302 + 1305)/2) Dominant is 1000 So 15 of 18 people earn MUCH less than average And dominant is 1000e even thou 6 people earn it, while 7 people make 1300-1325 (if it was even 1300 then 1300 should be dominant). So 1300 is closer to what most people earn...

[@Kukuriku23]

Love Spain,best country for living

[@larsjohansson660]

the gdp in spain is 30100 usd. so devided through 12. It would be 2500 usd minus taxes.

[@wp8022]

But GDP is not the same as income.

[@oritoab3069]

xd

[@2kool4myskool]

Cost of living is very affordable in Spain offsetting lower salaries, excellent healthcare,very good infrastructure,high life expectancy and great outdoor lifestyle, study and work hard and you’ll be surprised how wonderful living in Spain can be.

[@xavierStark84]

It's not about how much you earn, it's about where you do you live.

[@nikitazogas3676]

These are correlated, if you live in a small town there won't be a lot of jobs offering big salaries. Once there are big salaries - the cost of living will increase. It's not a rocket science to understand that.

[@04mdsimps]

I’ve never really had time to observe spanish life but recently I spent a week there solo just minding my business and exploring. I did notice there is next to no poverty in spain but there is also not a lust for material goods like in US/UK. They’re a very content people I found, I think their simplicity is shown in their cuisine and style too

[@alioshax7797]

Of course there is poverty is Spain. Classic idealization coming from tourists. The poverty rate is higher than in the UK, and lower than in the US.

[@AzertyAzerty-fj2bj]

As someone who hasnt got a job, here in Belgium i get 1,200€ from governement allowances. Crazy to hear that some workers get less than that

[@williamswayuk]

😮😮

[@BlackHoleSpain]

I used to be an IT Systems & Network admin. Due to the *huge* ageism in Spain, I've been unemployed 16 years so far. I have *NO* rights to receive any welfare at all, because I was farsighted and have savings in my bank account.

[@zull2281]

come to my country in indonesia you will be more shocked if you know our minimum salary is only 200-300 😂

[@efimc1714]

Haha, hello from Belarus where 400-500USD is avg salary and people are working much more hours than the ones from Spain

[@Nico-rw1uo]

But the cost of living in Belgium also is very high, compared with Spain. 1200eur, if the apartment is not yours, you will definitely pay for a rent at about 500-800 euros

[@Iriskacatpurr]

I absolutely love Spain and surprised about the salaries!

[@biankaionescu496]

A mi me gustaría tanto trabajar y vivir en España. Es mi sueno de hacer esto.

[@Many_Rivera]

No lo hagas, mala idea, hay muchos países mejores para elegir

[@elramon]

Eso piensan todos los que emigran aqui, y luego cuando ven la realidad se llevan las manos a la cabeza y se preguntan donde se han metido.

[@mikicerise6250]

​@@elramonBueno. Hay sitios peores. 😂

[@zull2281]

​@@mikicerise6250is that bad living in spain bro?

[@piloto88ed]

@@Many_Rivera 8º país con más inmigrantes del mundo ¿a tu insignificante paísucho-vertedero va alguien?

[@lohengrinknight]

Salaries in Spain are terrible. I've met so many Spanish people who can barely buy a car and can never think about buying a house.

[@JP-en7cc]

It depends on where you live and your professional sector. As a Junior Software developer not living in a big city i live fairly well (I live on my own and I don't have to mantain anyone ofc no children so the situation might be diferent). I make around 1.5k on 14 pays a year. It's true that buying a house is something that seems really far for young people, and we tend to rent instead. If you are still studying its common to rent a student house with more students if you don't want to live with your parents and also have a part time job. My rent is around 350€ a month and I don't waste a lot on oil since I use public transportation mostly (unless big distance in town or outside ofc). Cars are not that expensive, I've never hear anyone who knows how to save money and doesnt have a complicated finantial situation not being able to buy a car. New cars are around 30k (Seat is a pretty common branch that has this range, my car itself is a Seat León from 2019) and second hand cars are around 1k-2k if you just want something to drive. 3k-5k to get a decent car and 10k to get a cool car

[@JP-en7cc]

Electricity is expensive tho. Really really expensive

[@eslifestyle1428]

Hahaha you must come to Greece 😂👍

[@barbedienne1407]

Home ownership in Spain- 75.8 percent, well above France, the UK and Germany.

[@lohengrinknight]

@@barbedienne1407 how come? What about the millions of people renting pisos all over the place? What's your source?

[@MoveAlongGo]

Espanha esta a ficar muito parecido com Portugal em termos económicos,mesmo assim Espanha estará uns anos a frente de Portugal em tudo

[@castronator-mu3ye]

Eu trabalho na Espanha, temos um departamento dedicado a Portugal (eu trabalho pro departamento espanhol apesar que estao me chamando pra Portugal) e o pessoal me fala que as condiçoes aqui sao muuuuito melhores que em Portugal, infelizmente. Dizem que em Portugal encima tudo está quase ao mesmo preço que aqui, mas com salarios bem inferiores. Aluguel anda pesado por ai pelo visto.

[@goncalo.ferreira]

Aluguer está ao mesmo preço ou pior que em Espanha. Salario mínimo não são 1000€, são 760€. Salário Médio anda nos 1100 €, arrendamento de T2 em Lisboa anda por volta de 650€

[@shashanks7088]

@@goncalo.ferreira Wait what? T2 in Lisbon is 650? I live in Lisbon right now and for 650 you'd be lucky to get a rat hole. A min of 1000 for a decent T2. 1200+ for a T2 in liveable conditions.

[@goncalo.ferreira]

@@shashanks7088 in the outskirts of Lisbon that is. Be prepared to pay around 1000/1200 € for a good one. Also take into consideration the burden of having a way smaller salary compared to someone working in the UK

[@red4666]

are these before or after taxes? and how much tax does spain usually take?

[@SpainGuru]

Really interesting video. It would be great to do interviews in other regions/cities of Spain and compare. Thanks for sharing!

[@angelangelangel4116]

A ver. Los sueldos son bajos. Pero hay cosas baratas si las comparamos con otros paises. Transporte publico, por ejemplo. Luego claro, hay una diferencia muy grande de precios de unas zonas a otras del pais. Con 1000 euros en Madrid las pasas canutas. Y con 1000 euros en un pueblo de Extremadura, pues te da para mucho mas

[@tomxhardy]

Frankly speaking I'm shocked. In Warsaw (Poland) 3k eur for the corporate job is considered as a low salary. Most people (not manager) makes at least 3.5k

[@jakapaka]

Bear in mind that the national health service and retirement pension quota has already been deducted from your salary. Although, yes, salaries have not changed in accordance to corporate productivity, nor inflation, in at least the last decade

[@Liubomyr7]

Wow so you live even better than Germany. Good to know, good to know

[@tomxhardy]

Nah, Im talking Warsaw specyfically. Other parts of Poland are different story. In Germany you can still earn twice more than in PL.

[@QLMTA]

Then why do so many polish people come work in western European countries?

[@tomxhardy]

@@QLMTA they used to 15 years ago and they stayed there. Uk is not a deal anymore. You can still earn more in Germany, Benelux and Nordics but apart on that moving west makes no sense.

[@raulruiz6165]

Esto es muy variado y lo digo desde mi experiencia propia que con 25 años he trabajado de mecanico, camarero, pizzero, mozo y programador. De media un pizzero / camarero a jornada completa 1000 - 1200, mecanico 1000 - 1300 (sin exp, con exp mas pero no aspireis a mucho mas), mozo de 1000 a 1200, programador de 1200 para arriba (sin exp, con exp de 1-2 años 1500 o mas)

[@davidzarzuelafernandez8362]

It's a pity that many of us need to leave Spain to find better jobs. And I'm not talking only about wages but other characteristics like less toxic environment, more opportunities to keep growing, etc. Spain will blow up soon because is not sustainable, only pensionist (not all) and public works have decent conditions. Spain like other Mediterranean countries are the paradise for those european with higher salaries who retire or work remotely here. Good weather, food, healthcare system, facilities...easy for them to buy a house but difficult for young people which salaries barely get them to pay a rent so no chance for saving.

[@alejandrop.s.3942]

This is gonna blow up when the boomer generation die and then all of a sudden they'll tell us that we've been paying for a retirement that we won't enjoy.

[@rockinit99]

5:45 en ciudades grandes si, en algunas pequeñas no cuesta tanto el alquiler

[@Mamuschka1987]

As a foreigner working in Barcelona for the last 8 years…salaries are a joke…most businesses even international companies are predominantly managed by Catalans who will never let you advance unless you are Catalan

[@romanabramov5273]

Are they xenophobic?

[@quentin.aventure]

@@romanabramov5273They are

[@Keirosqeen]

The Spanish people are so open and not afraid to reveal their salary. While on channels like Easy German, when asked how much money they make, almost every German was like "uh that's private"

[@komwhatseed4746]

Gracias por el video fue bastante útil

[@AhmedAbdinasir-v2o]

I live in Spain the salary is not good enough and getting the job is little bit hard but when they said is good county to live is really and Spanish people are so cute Love it😇

[@DefensisIndus]

Unfortunately...that's the sacrifice you have to make. I keep hearing how hard it is to live here in the USA because our lives are centered around our jobs... Would love to live a more relaxed life such as the way you guys live in Spain or places like Italy, but there's less work to be found...just a reminder of the polarity that exists on our planet. Great video, would love to see more. Cheers from San Diego, CA 🇺🇲 a heavily Spanish/Mediterranean influenced city in the USA :)

[@LEKIPE1]

They don’t have the chance to live in the US so that’s not a sacrifice, they just don’t have the choice

[@alejandrop.s.3942]

Work for living, or live for working. That's up to you.

[@LEKIPE1]

@@alejandrop.s.3942 it's not. Not everybody was born in the US

[@alejandrop.s.3942]

@@LEKIPE1 Indeed, I was not born there.

[@LEKIPE1]

@@alejandrop.s.3942 so what?

[@Zeioth]

This is a very good video and I would add getting into the job market in the first place is by far the hardest thing to do. This is not a place of "I just go there and get a job". That's UK, not here.

[@Travelaround4]

I love spain 🇪🇸❤️ best regards from Finland 🇫🇮🎥

[@pawelsto9801]

I am surprised about the salaries, I have heard about people migrating from Spain and Italy to Poland but I couldn't believe they can earn here more. In fact, they can.

[@chris27725]

Of course a resident of Spain or Italy, who have a gdp 3 and 4 times higher than the Polish will be eager to migrate there to work for 1/2 or less of the average salaries they have in their countries. Sure mate, sure… Poland is evolving very well, but do not lose touch with the reality: right now it is still among the poorest in Europe. Even at the average gdp growth, Poland would take more than 100 years to have the same gdp that Spain has now. Spain will always be a rich country due to the amount of skilled people, the tourism and the trade with latinamerica. Plus it has sun, sea and safety. But it needs better politicians for sure.

[@diegosense2833]

@@chris27725 I don´t usually post comments on KZbin, but I´m from Spain, living in Kraków, Poland for almost 2 years and the conditions that I have here and my salary is way better than the one I would be receiving in Spain with my experience and skills. Young people seems to have future in this country, most of them working for big corporations and studying at the same time. People under 30 seems to have a higher power of purchase than their Spanish peers, at least in the big polish cities. For unremarkable jobs, like waiters, or cashiers Spain still seems to pay better, but certain sectors are literally broken in Spain. Not to mention the lack of opportunities, while Poland has hundreds of booming sectors and unemployment rates closer to 0 than 10. Btw, there are plenty of Spaniards working here, also Italians.

[@nikitazogas3676]

They (Spanish and Italians) probably will earn about the same but in Poland everything is WAAAAAY cheaper.

[@pawelsto9801]

@@nikitazogas3676 It used to be "waaaaay" cheaper, but these days people go on vacations abroad because polish prices are so high. I was recently in Norway, some prices were 2x higher (e.g. eating out) but I did not have an impression that is "waaaaay" more expensive than in Poland (at least major Polish cities, smaller ones are a different thing).

[@mytek998]

A sumar tambien la mierda de horarios de trabajo con paradas para comer de 2 o 3 horas. Empiezas el dia a las 8:00h y sales a las 18:00h. Añadiendo el tiempo de transporte llegas tardisimo a casa. Casi no ves a tus hijos. Totalmente estupido. Y hay gente que lo defiende.

[@alipla78]

Love the content / the double subtitles :)

[@gokoz5423]

Honestly it is much more than I thought. I thought it is about 1300-1500€ netto, but probably because it is Madrid, it is higher. In Germany/Holland half of society is earning less than 1800€ net anyway.

[@nachoespejobatiste6300]

The people of the video who are earning 3000€ or 4000€ are privileged people, that's not the normal salary in Spain. The average wage in Spain is 1800€ (net).

[@ronnie9187]

Salaries are generelly low ( worked meself in Netherlands and Switzerland ) but cost of life in general is also low in Spain compared too those countries. So it is difficult to judge if the wages are fair or not. I know Spain only as a tourist and prices in groccery shops and eating out in restaurants or drinking a caffee on a terrace is certainly 50% lower then in the Netherlands and 75% lower then in Switzerland where a Cappuccino cost about 6 euros an appartment 2100 euros and healthcare insurance basic 350 euros a month pp, just to name a few costs outside Zürich or Geneva where the costs are even much higher.

[@halapunjete]

These videos make me feel extremely grateful and appreciative for living and working in the USA where I can make a decent living and have a good quality of life. Interesting to see that even a McDonald's worker makes more money than an engineer in Spain.

[@andvfx]

I will doubt a mcdonalds worker in US has a better quality of life than anyone with a low salary in spain. People doesnt get in dept in spain to study or to get medical treatments. Food is way cheaper too.

[@goncalomartins2421]

People are so dumb, especially Americans 😂😂 it's actually funny

[@felipeeusebio6313]

If in spain a McDonald's worker go to a doctor is wayyyyy cheaper that USA where you can go homeless because of medical bills, USA you earn more, but enjoy less

[@oscarcrespo5660]

No way 😂 and then check the quality of life. I have lived in both countries and and by 0 chance I think life quality balance is better in the US

[@felipeeusebio6313]

@oscarcrespo5660 I live in the US and right now the quality of live is really bad, people can't afford anything. They only way for many is having 2 jobs, thousands of people are moving from big cities to smaller towns looking for lower rent, a McDonald's combo is now over 12 dollars, every single day is a mass shooting, road rage killing all time high, robs, breaks in, you may earn more in the US but you don't have a quality life, you just surviving

[@zdravkobelinski4627]

i pack boxes in amazon UK, i work 2 days per week and earn over 1k per month after tax

[@j.m.b5441]

España me encanta pero no se me ocurriria vivir alla, es muy dificil empezar y no se gana dimero, me jubilaria con gusto, eso si. Soy chofer de camion en USA y mi salaries neto es de unos 6000 dollars al mes, esonen España ni soñarlo.

[@merylp1570]

También ten en cuenta q aquí el nivel de vida es muy distinto a USA, es decir aquí con 6000 al mes eres rico un alquiler promedio son 600€ y quizás la comida de un mes 100€ como mucho (para una persona)

[@NodeNomad]

100 por persona al mes como mucho en comida? dónde?

[@miquelcm5136]

Pero tu trabajas para vivir o vives para trabajar. No todo es el sueldo, lo importante es la calidad de vida que tienes en cada país con un trabajo normal, y en europa (no este) se vive mejor que es USA

[@papaking6754]

No puedes comparar un país social capitalista como España donde la deuda aumenta anualmente, los desfavorecidos tienen seguridad, educación y sanidad (en su pretensión) , con un pais autoritario donde la seguridad depende del arma que tengas en casa , los colegios tienen puertas de seguridad por si entran a tirotear y la sanidad depende de lo que desenfundes al año (7500$ anuales aprox, si no tienes jodete). Las Universidades en España valen entorno 1500€ publicas y 15000€ privadas Usa tiene un minimo de 20.000$ para las publicas. Comparar dos paises por solo lo que se percibe económicamente es muy sesgado. Ahora voy a decir unas palabras de mucho valor: Gazpachito andaluz ,Ternasco asado aragonés, Fabada asturiana, Sobrasada Balear, Papas arrugadas con mojo Canario, Cocido montañés Cantábrico, Cochinillo asado de Castilla, botillo Leones, Queso manchego, Paella de Cataluña, Migas extremeñas, Pulpo a la gallega, Zarangollo Murciano ,Pimientos del piquillo Navarros, Bacalao al pil pil (version PaisVasco), Patatas a la riojana , Fideuà Valenciana, Pastela de cordero Ceutillense. Como entenderas los chofers en España no estamos por el dinero. Estamos por la calidad de la comida independientemente de donde te tengas que desplazar y la seguridad de dejar a la familia en un entorno seguro y que los chiquillos tengan posibilidad de estudiar lo que quieran. Además si hay algo injusto montas huelga y te escuchan en su medida. Como dijo nuestro antiguo y emblematico presidente Rajoy: "E.T.A es una gran nación, España perdón, es una gran Nación"

[@j.m.b5441]

@@miquelcm5136 eso depende, trabajo unis 45 horas al dia, tengo 5 semanas de vacaciones al año, me voy de vacaciones 2 veces al año, no se, me parece que en cualquier pais hay que trabajar para vivir.

[@19piolin82]

El sueldo mínimo es de 1080 euros mensuales por 40 horas semanales, un mes de vacaciones y 14 pagas al año. Es decir, prorrateado son más de 1.200 euros netos al mes.

[@swicheroo1]

Gosh. To survive in my city--Los Angeles--you need to make 60K. But at that salary, it will be hard to compete for decent housing.

[@carlosgarciahernandez7239]

Life is much much much more affordable in Spain. Generally making 35.000 € net you can pay rent for a medium size appartment, eat out, travel, and save money.

[@BlackHoleSpain]

With current tax brackets in Spain, you're labeled as a *RICH PERSON* by the socialist state when you reach 60K, and your taxes will jump to the maximum 48%

[@carlosgarciahernandez7239]

@@BlackHoleSpain You will pay 45% taxes on the money you earn above 60.000€ and 47% on the money you earn above 300.000€. It doesn't mean that if you make 60k you will pay 45% taxes on that. With 60.000€ yearly income you would typically pay 22-25% depending on many factors.

[@Elemiousy]

I am surprised that the salaries are more or less similar to Turkey. Waiters here make 600-1000 EUR net in average. Teachers 1300 EUR net. Average white collar jobs 900-1200 EUR. Doctors 2500-3500 EUR, Engineers and Architects starting from 900 to 3500 EUR (depends on the experience and qualification). But Turkey is really expensive right now, I am not sure if it is more expensive than Spain but I am pretty sure not much differences.

[@evasanchezinche1067]

Me encanta la argentina soy fan jajajaja muy real todo lo que dicen

[@SoSo11]

If everyone had an UBI ... No one would stress about salaries and no exploitation for people who need a job will occurs This concept is really growing on me ...

[@alvarotorres9057]

No, because UBI will increase inflation and the inflation will cancel out the UBI. For example, let’s say you and your friend want to buy a coat that is being sold for 35 Euros. You have 20 euros and your friend has 25 euros. The government gives each of you 100 euros a week. You and your friend will compete for the purchase of the coat. Therefore, the seller will increase the cost of the coat. The seller will increase the cost of the coat to $125 Euros. Your friend will be able to afford the coat and you will be left with nothing.

[@SoSo11]

@@alvarotorres9057 sorry we already have the means to mass produce any kind of goods .... So the price will go down anyway... Moreover we have the necessary technology to monitor and supervise the whole process... I hope you understand what i mean my dear

[@tomassantostefano5979]

Me encanta este canalll

[@demetriusm8221]

Seems like a good place to go if you have remote income. Nice small village somewhere close enough to a city but far enough from the hustle and bustle you would get in any city.

[@andersnielsen6044]

These remote job salaries does not pay enough to get a healthy life in a country like Spain. Then you have to go to the 3rd world countries where you can have a sustainable life for 3-4000 euros per month.

[@demetriusm8221]

Mine does.

[@alexandrejeannin1869]

With 3000€/month you can live MUCH better in Madrid than in Paris

[@ramses4321]

Net or.....?

[@peterselers]

Well average salaries and life costs are far higher in Paris than Madrid…so yes, and you can live MUCH better in Santa Cruz de Tenerife with 3K

[@alexandrejeannin1869]

@@ramses4321 Net, of course... It's very difficult to live in Paris if you earn under 3K€ net

[@alexandrejeannin1869]

@@peterselers Really? Life on French islands are not that cheap!

[@gipszjakab7437]

I bet the cost of living is a lot less in Spain than in the USA. As a teacher in the USA you make around 40k a year and this is considered low , but it is more money than the economist salary at the bank in Spain.

[@papaking6754]

En España no se vive bien por el sueldo, se vive bien por los contactos y amistades que uno tenga. Tienes contactos tienes trabajo , no tienes contactos te pagan una mierda.

[@theoxln]

exacto

[@pablochavez5392]

Igual que en México 😢

[@alejandrobarrio8731]

Igual que en el 90% del planeta. Cuiden sus relaciones!

[@spaghetti996]

País de juntas. Es una forma española de mafia

[@mike7920]

O sea el enchufismo

[@Pigui900]

Para vivir en Madrid "normal" sin preocuparse mucho por llegar a fin de mes (siempre y cuando tengas una economía con cabeza y no dilapidando el sueldo en gilipolleces) son 2000 euros, creo que ganar menos de 2000 en madrid te limita muchísimo, el alojamiento es de las cosas más caras y vas a tener que compartir o pagar una millonada por una mierda de sitio. Soy funcionario y con mi sueldo (2.2k/mes) comparto piso para poder ahorrar un poco y tener un poco más de ocio/compras al mes, si no es casi imposible, además, buscar buenas ofertas y dedicar un tiempo a mirar diferentes sitios, mi compañero de piso y yo desde antes de terminar la academia ya estábamos buscando, encontramos un piso de 60 metros cuadrados, dos habitaciones, cocina-salón y dos baños por 1050€ en nuevos ministerios, pero estuvimos casi dos meses buscando, aunque es cierto que en ese momento teníamos tiempo ya que faltaban meses para coger destino.

[@JoseRCampillo]

Si está sufriendo no es clase media... no hay misterio.

[@alejandrop.s.3942]

La clase media fue destruida en gran medida durante la crisis de 2008. La plandemia ya terminó de rematarla.

[@owenriddle1572]

I'm an immigrant here but more and more people are coming and working teletrabajo "online" and is driving prices of everything up. Spanish salaries remain the same

[@migovasquez0303]

I love everything about Spain. I hope that the salary will go up. I am debating of retiring either in Portugal or Spain but I still have 20 more years. lol

[@purplehaze779]

Las azores

[@likorsuz]

Spain is really a beautiful country but everything is so tricky, i recently moved to Spain to work but to even open a bank account i had to have a work contract. I’ve been to almost all banks in the city with my job offer which stated my annual income and that it’s an indefinite contract but they just wouldn’t open an account. Without a bankaccount i couldn’t rent a house and without a house I obviously couldn’t work because I had nowhere to stay as I can’t live in a hotel. Fortunately I was lucky to find a bank that would open an account with only the job offer and shortly after I found a house after going to every immo in the city and getting the answer the flats are rented from october to may due to the city being a touristic place where the flats are rented daily or weekly for a higher price. So if you want to move to Spain be prepared for all the frustration. I’ve been living in Spain for a month now and I can say it was worth all the effort.

[@TheLiebde]

Why do you think is it worth? What do you like in Spain to think it is worth after so much frustration? I am not being hostile, just the opposite, I ask precisely because I am Spaniard living in Spain and it produces me curiosity your observation. Cheers x

[@unbreakable0327]

La pregunta mas importante: Bruto o Neto?

[@hwiwo]

Exacto

[@Heellooo_]

Y si lo dan mensual, en 12 o 14 pagas?

[@skillfuldabest]

4,000 euros after tax (28%) is like 2,895 EUR.

[@SpardaPSS]

Algún español que este en mi misma situacion? Soy español de nacimiento, pero he vivido en Colombia practicamente toda mi vida, actualmente estoy pensando en irme a España a probar suerte basicamente ya que no tengo familiares allí, seria basicamente como si "emigrase como un colombiano" pero con los papeles al día, no tengo carrera profesional, solo un tecnico en Aulixiar Administrativo y "soy bilingue", que consejos me darian (¿Dónde vivir?, ¿De que buscar trabajo? Etc) o que harian en mi posición? Agradezco de antemano a cualquiera que me ayude

[@king-manu2758]

Con suerte conseguirás trabajitos de mil euros si llega si no tienes estudios de nada. En una ciudad grande podrás compartir una vivienda con más gente y te quedará apenas para la comida y salir a tomar algo el fin de semana.

[@SpardaPSS]

@@king-manu2758 y que hay de compartir vivienda en una ciudad más pequeña?

[@king-manu2758]

@@SpardaPSS también puedes, pero en una ciudad más pequeña las oportunidades laborales también son menos.

[@SpardaPSS]

@@king-manu2758 que hay de la industria de los Call Center? Se gana decente con eso?

[@king-manu2758]

@@SpardaPSS no tengo idea. Lo dudo mucho que se gane bien en eso.

[@Wes-Tyler]

How much is their rent payment? Their monthly pay is less than my rent payment in the US

[@luistor4510]

1000 euros al mes. Eso es muy poquito.

[@alexarihani2902]

No creo que es bastante vivir Lo siento englais is my idioma primers

[@PetreMihai94]

Everything gets more expensive, but salaries stay the same. I wonder how waiters, cashiers the regular job people get to the end of the month with the crappy salaries and conditions. I'm a truck driver and you barely make it to the end of the month. And if you manage to even put something aside, Hacienda (Tax Authorities) will take care to get whatever rise of sunshine you still own.

[@mercedesontanon5337]

Salaries are in general ridiculous in Spain! That is one of the reasons why lots of us are working and living abroad (me for already 8 years)! 😢

[@cristiansain8012]

Is really bad there? Spain is my favorite country and I would reallly like to live there someday:)

[@zull2281]

​@@cristiansain8012yes, and i have plan wanna study in spain too next year, because im still learn spanish now 🙂🙂

[@piloto88ed]

29.000 euros per year (average) is ''ridiculous''? where are you from?

[@oritoab3069]

@@cristiansain8012 its not good but not that bad, some people just want to live in a good house of 200k+ and have a 50k+ car, that in spain is quite hard with a normal job. But if u want to live a normal life, u can pretty much do it in spain.

[@dragosdinu7130]

Is it normal to refer to the net monthly salary in general in Spain? Since in other countries, when asked about your salary, the default is to consider the annual gross salary.

[@Dario989898]

I do not think I've never spoken about monthly net, but always about monthly gross. Rarely yearly. I'm from Spain btw.

[@dragosdinu7130]

@@Dario989898 thanks for your reply. So these salaries from the video are gross? (If not explicitly specified otherwise)

[@pejo620]

I always refer to net salary here in Spain, and most people I know do it like that (and if they refer to gross salary, they specify it's gross, not net). Why would you tell your gross salary? It's not really what you are making. Also consider that different countries and different income levels may have completely different income tax %, so it doesn't make much sense to refer to gross salary

[@imnobodywhoareyouu]

In Argentina we also speak about salary saying the montly payment

[@discinfiltrator]

Yes, this is completely normal in Spain

[@wallstreetlegends]

I didn't realise people make so little money.

[@mikegarcia8412]

Una curiosidad, como consiguen comer o vivir con solo 500-600 o 1000-1200? En mi caso somos una familia de 4 y solo en comida gasto mas que eso, creo que como 2000.

[@Michelle_641]

It turns out that the Spaniards receive a salary as in Moscow, but at the same time they have more expensive food prices and you can rent something from $1000. Low standard of living, but at least you live by the sea

[@snlvl]

Piso normalmentr comparten y te sale a unos 100-200 al menos, y el resto para comer. Da solo para vivir compartiendo comer y poco más

[@matadorsalas2736]

@@Michelle_641 WTF???? HAHAHAHA the average salary in Spain is 29.000 euros per year. Russia has not even 10.000 euros per year of average salary. ''Low standart'' LOL the infrastructure, public services, food, low crime rate, life expectancy, etc in Spain looks from a paradise compared with the poor and undeveloped Russia.

[@Michelle_641]

@@matadorsalas2736 I'm talking about Moscow, not Russia.Reread the comment By the way, in other cities you can rent for $100-500. With a salary of $500-970 In addition, it will be an apartment in a new building. Food is also cheap, especially compared to France and Germany . In Moscow they get much more, but the costs there are more expensive . So you don’t have to look at the numbers you gave. They don’t show the real picture because our prices for everything are much cheaper than yours.

[@matadorsalas2736]

@@Michelle_641 ''Numbers''??? LOL Moscow and all Russia is a poor scumhole compared with Spain, Madrid or whatever you want. The average salary in Moscow is 850 euros, in Madrid is 2050 euros. WHAT THE HELL YOU TALKING ABOUT? and i repeat Spain (and of course Madrid) has one of the best infrastructure, public services, etc. And in other cities in Spain you can rent a home with 300-500 euros, of course. A sub-being poor inferior from Russia talking about ''low standart'' in Spain is the most crazy thing i see in my life...

[@josea.lluciarodriguez1453]

Los sueldos son muy bajos. Las empresas no pueden pagar más. Un contrato de trabajo de 20000 euros anuales, te quitan casi el 50% de tu sueldo el gobierno. El gobierno te quita irpf, y otras ... y sevtevqueda en 1000 euros al mes. Además por tu contrato la empresa paga tu seguridad social, o sea que puede pagar de más unos 600€ mes o más. Es imposible que se puedan subir los salarios con este gobierno que no entiendo porque nos esta llevando a la ruina.

[@HarunaMaurer]

vaya puta inventada chaval. no te quitan el 50% con un sueldo de 20000. Aprox en impuestos es un 12-15% lo que se va en impuestos

[@miquelcm5136]

Mientes más que hablas

[@josea.lluciarodriguez1453]

@@miquelcm5136 De mentira no es nada. Eso es asi. Yo soy español y esto es una realidad. Te lo demuestro con documentos. Informesen que esto es una pura realidad.

[@libropetete9830]

Las cosas salen bien , si te lo curras un poco

[@king-manu2758]

​@@miquelcm5136en que miente? Tu lo que no quieres es admitir que tus paguitas están arruinando la economía.

[@tamogubai2812]

Lower salaries than I expected. But also a lack of understanding other languages which I found surprising in a big city like Madrid. Without disrespect Spain is probably the only one that is somewhat rich. So what are the other Latin markets that can make you money for the ones that don’t take the gamble of being a company owner