How much does a VW Golf R cost to RUN?

Hey guys! As requested here is a cost breakdown for my Golf R. Like mentioned in the video, some of the figures may vary but if you're looking to buy a Golf R these are some realistic ballpark figures of how much it'll cost you to buy & run one!
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[@JPOW94]

Liked that you mentioned finance mate loads of videos dont mention that and pretend they paid cash

[@alexiO21100]

True indeed

[@alexiO21100]

@Jamari Turner the fuck does this have to do with the topic of the comment

[@anthonynjiewf1]

Finally someone that speaks facts. Love it lad 🙌🏿cheers

[@DSGDemons]

💯👊🏼

[@keli8857]

10/10 guy. Someone finally talking about the things we actually want to know.

[@karldaniels1888]

Glad to see a youtuber who says things how they are without the bullshitting. 💪💪 most vloggers talk shit and say they pay cash straight out 😂. Your golf R is looking 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@liam5064]

Great to see someone talk about finance finally

[@sulemanqayyum8149]

Keep up the good work, that Golf R is beautiful.

[@DSGDemons]

Thank you bro 🙏🏼

[@mx7999]

May be talk about declaring mods with ur insurance and how much it costs

[@XclusiveAaron]

Love the honestly and clear facts, decent video👍 it's funny I have always paid high Insurance but these days it's like £600 a year on my 2018 Mercedes a220d, and I've realised I'm 27 I'm not really a "young driver" anymore lol, had a license 10 years

[@yusafmalik5171]

I'm 21 and I can't wait for that day. Insurance is still horrible but that's cuz I got no ncd but I didn't get that because the prices were horrible 😂

[@Mattyleeds07]

Cambelt? MK7/7.5 R is a chain driven engine non- serviceable so in theory should last the life of the car. Nice to see you been honest with insurance/fuel.

[@DSGDemons]

Matt_Leeds_89 not sure pal Inchcape VW website recommends you this if you check it... & nice one

[@512460]

Incorrect sir, they say that but it's stupid. A chain is most definitely a serviceable part as its stretchs (as chains do) if you've ever owned a pedal bike youll know this. Example when i bought a new chain for my bmx after riding a bit it stretched then just had to re adjust the chain. So moral of the story chains stretch. No digging at you just stating facts. And to be fair is VW's fault for saying such silly things.

[@mohammadkhan8567]

@@DSGDemons Yeh mate hes right theres no cambelt on these ea888 gen 3 engines its chain driven, but chains stretch and thats when you get cam correlation faults many golf rs S3s get this when the service interval isnt followed properly, theres a little spindle thing thats fill with oil pressure that controls the variable valve timing on the intake and exhaust and these get stuck and so when the cars idling its starts jumping revs etc, but changing a chain is a ballache

[@zezzzz1650]

Looking to buy an MK6 next year and this vid has been super informative. Really appreciate how much detail you went into!

[@Stryka365]

Did yu get the mk6

[@zezzzz1650]

@@Stryka365 ended up getting a mk6 gti and holy fuck it has been a money pit. Timing chains, engine leaks, gearbox leaks, PCV valve and there’s water leaking into my cabin somehow. I know I’ve just gotten super unlucky but my god I’ve spent over $8k in repairs and I’ve only owned the car for 10 months. I also bought a low km one only had 75,000 kms on the clock was the lowest on the market

[@josh8136]

@@zezzzz1650probably hadn’t had the major service done which is usually around the 80,000km mark

[@tylersmith1533]

bro that’s crazy ur insurance seems blessed. i’m 17 and saved up and bought a mk6 gti cuz i couldn’t afford the r and i love it, (stratified stg2) insurance doesn’t know that ofc but i’m paying 400$ a month on my moms policy🙄they said if i did it under my own policy would’ve been sum crazy like 650+ each month on a gti🤧. jus thought i’d share lol loved the video g

[@marcusrashford3409]

2l for a first car jeez

[@samanson2001]

@@marcusrashford3409 literally wtf

[@yusafmalik5171]

How can you be surprised to expect to pay prices like those 😂 it's a 2ltr with sports badging already making it cosy more. Second your 17 meaning no ncd which is the biggest contributers to discounts. There's a reason why people get shit cars first to get ncd down then go to nicer cars. Hope it works out well for you tho, they are nice cars

[@spiritwalkeres9196]

This is a fantastic video, I’m 20 and I’m aiming to finance a Golf R within the next 2 years. Knowing that you’ve financed yours makes me feel a lot less ashamed

[@MachonaVideos]

ashamed? Honestly, it's that mindset that is the problem. Big respect to Bilal for even mentioning it in a society that is so hung up on trying to look rich.

[@CaliRoccco]

If you haven't already got your golf r, I would suggest looking at bank loans as well, they typically have lower % interest

[@esuohelyk]

@@CaliRoccco what??? is this because they hold their value, or are you messing around with spiritwalker??

[@CaliRoccco]

@esuohelyk Not messing with anyone, if you have a good credit rating a bank loan can have lower interest rates than car finance. It also allows you to own the car outright, meaning you can modify it if you wanted to

[@esuohelyk]

@@CaliRoccco ahhh. I misunderstood. I got it.

[@santana9537]

Finance definitely makes more sense. I’m 21, bought my second car recently on finance, paid cash for my first car and it took a huge chunk of my money away in one hit. With the finance I got a good deal, and I save vat + more from corporation tax as I bought it through my business. At the end of the day what goes out of my own pocket over a period of 2/3 years is only slightly more than what I paid for my first car even though this newer car is worth over double the price 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@jordanwombat7181]

Really helpful video man! Nice to see Somone on KZbin who actually talks figures and breaks it down. Top video mate✌️

[@DSGDemons]

🤝❤️

[@J7CKYT]

That’s decent I’m 19 and have a 320d and it’s 2000 a year with one year no claims and a family member on the insurance

[@abdallahbonne]

same

[@markbrelandcomeback8604]

Really bright kid you are. Keep it up bro

[@Qr-zc6dd]

Your channel is actually sick bro, keep the uploads going !

[@DSGDemons]

Love bro! Will be back with the new car soon

[@mattsturt5017]

A great watch and really enjoying your channel. Keep it coming bro 👍

[@MisticDW]

I've got a 2017 GTE advance, I was thinking of changing it for an R, after hearing your petrol usage.. I don't know man 😂, I get 200 miles from £20 of petrol and with the electric motor the car still feels rapid

[@oliverakatwisty7044]

Just to say I’ve got the 7.5 on a 67 plate and it’s £155 tax for the year 🙌🏼

[@ryanhogg6556]

I 100% like this guy very straight person

[@kaz4397]

If only I could afford a golf r

[@diallo1347]

Love your honesty. No shame at all. I'm looking to finance just because I don't trust the used market. Too many red flags on carfax to take a chance.

[@omarhenry3900]

How about a price break down on your friends polo gti?? Looking at getting one in the next year👍🏾

[@DSGDemons]

100%! We’ll get it done

[@1Cee__1884]

I’ve got a GTI plus, 22k but borrowed 17k over 5 years, 1k insurance for a year, 240 tax, and gets around 20-25 mpg so depends how much you drive for fuel costs. Haven’t serviced it yet so we’ll see what that comes out at

[@Umar_1994_]

I took the 2018 Polo GTI on lease for £199 per month including maintenance, 9 months deposit, 8,000 miles per year and 3 year contract. I don't know any trustworthy garages or mechanics lol, so maintenance is was a must for me (luckily offer at the time was £1 a month extra for maintenance 😂)

[@omarhenry3900]

@@Umar_1994_ got a polo gti myself now haha, got Volkswagen main dealership servicing etc.🔥

[@Umar_1994_]

@@omarhenry3900 nice, how are you finding it?

[@taiyyabali]

£3K+ on a 1.6 golf here in Bradford pal 🤣🤣🤣

[@DSGDemons]

Holy shit 🤣 that’s a madness

[@antop4597]

When i had my golf r i got a service plan for 99 quid from vw, covered me 2 minor and major service, no brainer

[@DSGDemons]

Cheap as chips that

[@selbzino5814]

How you get it for £99 mate

[@antop4597]

@@selbzino5814 haggled with the guy mate

[@mattmcgrath5852]

Really rate this video respect bro 🤞🏻

[@DatGuy]

This acc a sick video! KZbin randomly recommended the video to me and I'm glad it did. Do you mind letting me know what insurance you use.

[@maxduke00]

Real interesting, thanks for this vid man. Would mention I’m 23 my insurance for my R with a declared cat back exhaust is £830

[@xanzfx2502]

Per month 💀?

[@maxduke00]

@@xanzfx2502 per year

[@maxduke00]

@@xanzfx2502 naa per year

[@xxxjohnblaney]

150-220miles per tank?? Mk7GTIDSG getting 350-410miles per tank

[@tyranic1]

Golf R has a timing chain, no servicing, change if it starts to rattle besides that some good info.

[@VeX00786]

Bro we need more of these videos. Thanks

[@steven9186]

I’ve got a Skoda Fabia Monte Carlo, pay £63 a month insurance and on HP £202. £20 a year tax 😳

[@chasedwar2]

The reason most peeps don’t talk about it is because they are rentals. No one buys expensive cars for cash, nearly every car on the road is a finance deal. But wow that insurance is crazy, a grand a year is a figure I don’t want to cross, just out of common sense. But then I don’t drive crazy fast cars. I guess it’s the price you pay to feed the need for speed! 😂

[@iankonstantino6648]

In Canada, insurance is so expensive, I pay 3 grand a year, or like 1600 Euros per year.

[@panditbadit]

You can get a 2020 R for 300 a month 2800 deposit. PCH though

[@DSGDemons]

panditbadit yeah I know! Lease though so can’t mod it and 300 is for entry spec once you start adding a few extras on the price starts flying up

[@ZEN43D]

Great vid, thanks for sharing. When you say good speakers do you have the dynaudio or do you think the standard speakers are good enough? cheers!

[@DSGDemons]

I have the standard factory speakers and I’ve made a few adjustments in the settings and they’re more than good enough! Plus half the time you turn it down to enjoy DSG farts anyway 😂😂

[@ZEN43D]

@@DSGDemons haha thank you :)

[@tariqmiah4470]

I got my R when i was 19 and paid £2800 for the insurance 1year no claim

[@DSGDemons]

That’s a banging price at 19

[@Skiinye]

What insurance ?

[@joshheately7254]

I’ve just turned 20 and had my r for about 8 months and my insurance is £1100 but then again I do live in the south west so it’s a lot cheaper to get insurance down here

[@amaansharih8589]

Josh Heately which company was that with?

[@jacobdolega3372]

I got quoted £1600 for the whole year I live in London 1ncb

[@samanson2001]

Im only 20 and the insurance for me on a Golf R is only 1.5k for the year without blacl box and 1 year no claims. Not sure if that is area related or what not 🤷‍♂️

[@yusafmalik5171]

Most definitely area related. That's the biggest factor with insurance. Have you added a second driver with experience as well?

[@Marko-hr4rj]

Two fuel pumps, three water pumps, haldex pump problems, head crackle, etc... This is problems with this car in my service shop, Good luck.

[@807oreo]

65 quid to fill the tank? I'm American and 65 quid is equal to 82 dollars. 82 dollars would fill my tank over 3 times here is america.

[@pauldevine2932]

Great info 👌

[@jordanlever7667]

'Does drink alot more than others' doesnt help racing at mmm meets 😉😉

[@DSGDemons]

Ahahahahaha #ItWasntMe

[@MegaUsmanZ]

These cars don't have a cambelt. Think you mean thermostat, which is a common fault. Haldex is around £99 at VW but they don't clean the filter gauze which is needed imo so you should go independent circa £120.

[@DSGDemons]

I got quoted £250 from VW Preston for haldex service

[@xST33L3x]

24 and £700 to insure my R 😅

[@xST33L3x]

@@na51m57 yea.. rather drive a Prius than pay that 😂

[@samanson2001]

20 and £1500 for me

[@samanson2001]

@@na51m57 depends on how many years you have been driving and how much no claims you have. If you have no named driver experience and no NCB, its likely still going to be very expensive. Either wait till you are 21 which is when insurance prices start dropping significantly or build up some experience/NCB.

[@samanson2001]

@@na51m57 4.5k insurance? Dammm. My first car was an older Seat Ibiza 1.2 and I paid 2.1k on that. This is my second year and now I have a 2018 Civic Sport Plus 1.5 Turbo and thats only 1.7k despite being almost triple the power of my previous car.

[@samanson2001]

@@na51m57 yeah yours is roughly the same as mine then. Look at RaceChip online if you're looking for a way to bump up the power without needing an irreverible remap. And tbf the GTD aint half bad a car. I'd hold onto that until the insurance on the R drops to at least under 2k

[@jubjub.]

Black golf r's hit different

[@Cripinub1]

Cambelt ? Or chain

[@Skiinye]

Great video 👍🏽

[@DSGDemons]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[@samuelhebberd6831]

For a 19 year old I’m looking at 2.5k insurance. But was shocked when you said you took it on a pcp. I thought you have to give the car back at the end of the term? And if you decide to pay the balloon are you not paying more in interest?

[@erwinaps840]

Great video! also tax on a 7.5 R is £150

[@samanson2001]

Depends on the amount of options. If it was specced to above 40k, can be £500 a month

[@TurkishBenAirsoft]

Once you go over 40k then its £500

[@novas1204]

im 20 with 1 year no claims and it’s £1,500 yearly for a golf r

[@samanson2001]

Exactly the same with me

[@spiritwalkeres9196]

Where are you two from then!?!? I’m from the south west and I’m over here looking at £3.5k😢😢

[@samanson2001]

@@spiritwalkeres9196 west midlands for me

[@spiritwalkeres9196]

@@samanson2001 ahh man, lucky you dude. Your area must be lovely and peaceful

[@samanson2001]

@@spiritwalkeres9196 its literally just OAPs round here so yeah I suppose it is 😂

[@M1.942]

Love the car bro, how come you decided to PCP it because I thought thats when u give the car back after like 3 or 4 years and how come you can modify it on PCP I thought most finance company's don't?

[@DSGDemons]

Yeah bro I always go for PCP because I’ve never kept a car for more than 12 months, so the modifying rule doesn’t apply in that case as you sell the car to either a trader or another seller before the term ends! PCP actually makes more sense than buying cash, as you’re essentially paying 20k for a depreciating asset when you pay cash and anything could go wrong with it and you could lose a lot of not all of your money. With pcp you have consumer rights protection and buyer protection

[@M1.942]

@@DSGDemons oh right i didn't know that thankyou,

[@tizaglikosh4590]

Hey bro. Love the video......But surely you'll have to contact the finance company that your settling the outstanding loan early before the term ends as you can't sell a car on to someone else with outstanding finance on it? If the finance company own the car and are the registered keeper, they'll know if you sell it on without them knowing?

[@DSGDemons]

The finance company aren’t the registered keeper bro, you are. It’s only with a lease deal where you are not the registered keeper. If you sell the car as long as you clear the settlement figure in full you can pay it off whoever you want, even one day after buying the car if you really wanted! And nice one for the compliments bro

[@jagjourdan]

DSG Demons thing is when you buy a car through pcp with the intention of selling it after a year you run the risk of the car falling into negative enquity whereby the value left on the finance after 12 months is more than what you can sell the car for. Especially if you’re doing a lot of miles

[@Sean-tj5cu]

I dont know whether or not you will see this! But im looking at a Golf R and i have seen one with 33k miles 16 plate for 20k bang on. is this a good price? I havent seen many at the moment that are relatively close by, with the spec i want, bar this one!

[@ysfh]

Prices are super inflated right now. Best bet is to wait it out for a couple months in my opinion.

[@M1.942]

Euro car parts are rate good i get all my car shit for the car from them

[@user-ck4qr4qv1r]

Doesn't the golf R have a timing chain not a belt ?

[@anthonyshackleton6178]

So in your case how much did your insurance increase by from your bmw to the golf r

[@dss3973]

Your the man

[@DailyDrivenCarss]

The Golf R has a timing chain!

[@xiDynazty]

Do they do this alot in england? Borrowing money to buy a car?

[@MachonaVideos]

Yup. You can have really bad credit and still be allowed to finance certain cars. But when you want to rent a house, they won’t let ya hahaha.

[@simeonselmon8318]

I've been driving for 40 years it would not cost me much

[@T29RAG]

Hi mate can I ask which company financed your golf R, only asking as I have poor credit if you can message me privately that’s fine thank you

[@DSGDemons]

Drop me a message on insta pal I’ll help you out. My username is @dsgdemons

[@abdallahbonne]

did you get a reply?

[@seifyboy2832]

What was the mileage when you got it?

[@michaelrohandodds1850]

I have just subscribe, you are a no lie no pretence man.

[@AdamGrange1]

I’m looking at getting one I have a stage 2 fiesta st now I’m 19 insurance for me is £2500 on a golf r

[@Bijanbani79]

thats actually very good im 19 aswell and i was looking at buying a c class and the insurance was 8000 lol

[@amaansharih8589]

Which company did you get that quote from?

[@AdamGrange1]

Amaan Sharih go compare and I can’t remember the exact company for that quote

[@ronaldoguthrie252]

Yeah on my seat bonetanegra it’s expensive

[@undisputedtruth2075]

Question for you. Why have you modified this car if its on PCP? i was under the impression you cant mod at all as the car does not belong to you ?

[@ryantaylor5482]

You can if you change it back to stock before you trade it in or you pay the finance off

[@nigel4442]

Wow.... That's a big chunk

[@aa.media_]

Are you from birmingham area? Feel like I’ve seen this car around

[@DSGDemons]

No Manchester but I was in Birmingham like 3 weeks ago

[@ImranKhan-bx8sv]

Brother nice car are you free need more information about golf r going too pick one up on Tuesday

[@DSGDemons]

Imran Khan how can I help, dm me on Instagram @dsgdemons

[@ImranKhan-bx8sv]

DSG Demons I don’t have Instagram if il give you my number can we talk

[@Biotorn]

22k?? i payed for two year old 50k almost :S

[@simonfearing4907]

Euro car parts brought the name brembo and pass of cheaper pads and discs as brembo when there not

[@spiritwalkeres9196]

I hate how there are other 20 year olds getting insurance quotes for £1.5k and I’m the only poor mother f***er who is over here looking at £3.5k 😭

[@1cb877]

More vids pls

[@alonzoa8442]

I’ve put brembos from euros on my mk7 r they were shi.. creaky felt like i was driving a shed, went back to originals from tps bham.. Originals are v good Get em changed independent garage but get the original brakes from tps (trade part specialist)

[@rh9224]

Brembos from euros aren’t actually brembos

[@alonzoa8442]

@@rh9224 ye i agree i don’t think euros got the official ones either.. brembos are legendary in my mind

[@OmarAli-tx7dn]

Is there like a 6k payment at the end of the PCP? Because the maths for your finance doesn't quite add up. Thanks for all the info, love the car!

[@DSGDemons]

Yes on a PCP deal you get a “balloon” payment which is basically the “guaranteed future value” of the car at the end of the term. If you keep the car that long, at the end of the term you have the option to pay the “balloon” payment and keep the car or you can hand it back and if the car is worth more than that balloon payment (it usually is) then you keep the positive equity or you can put it into your next car. Hope this helps!

[@OmarAli-tx7dn]

@@DSGDemons That's very interesting, so you're not necessarily losing money from taking the car out on finance vs paying 20k cash? Or are you because of the interest

[@DSGDemons]

Yes essentially. The payments are calculated so you pay the depreciation and interest within the payments themselves, so at the end you are always positive basically. But you only pay interest on the payments you make and in my case I never keep the car longer than a year so I only make maximum 12 payments of interest on the car, when you settle the finance there is no interest included in the settlement figure; only in the monthly payments you make

[@monkz_1004]

Can you mod a finance car?

[@xKingzenity]

Just search it up, I’m sure you’ll find it.

[@fadinoufal1991]

bro as a daily I am tanking every other day

[@TurkishBenAirsoft]

Who would take a Golf R to Halfrauds lol. Ive just bought a 2019 Golf R and road tax is £165.

[@MachonaVideos]

I wouldn't take my 1.2 TSI there but he's not saying that, he's saying that having a reputable dealer on the service history as opposed to some random garage looks better to the next seller

[@JsvnSl]

Nice trim 😂

[@DSGDemons]

😂

[@nickdurkovic9039]

don’t understand how i asked u the finance question about a month ago and u said u didn’t talk numbers

[@DSGDemons]

I didn’t, but many people asked for it for advice on what to look out for etc, hence why I spoke about it on here 👌🏻

[@nickdurkovic9039]

DSG Demons fair enough, great video though bro! looking forward to more

[@LLIIVVEEWWIIRREE]

Whiplash tax on your insurance mate 😆

[@alex.2alive]

Me a 14 year old looking at cars to know

[@sharnchapman5552]

£1,300 for my golf r 20 year old with 2 years no claims isn't to bad aha

[@Mo_R9]

Lucky for some I’m 23 yrs old with 3 years ncd and would cost me £4k insurance

[@Guidance2islam916]

Dsg kind of looks like @AMRmotors

[@jagjourdan]

Be careful about showing your number plate if you’ve got a PCP car doing mods. Check what happened to living life fasts m4. The pcp company found out and made him pay the balance as the car.

[@DSGDemons]

Yeah I’m aware of mate haha cars on sale soon anyway

[@levente4424]

if you want something quality don't get Brembo , get ATE. If you want budget Pagid.

[@DSGDemons]

I thought brembos were a good brand? Nice one for telling me

[@dafyddgreen9282]

Pagid ain’t cheap they’re good quality

[@amshgamer9499]

Car parts 4 less are alot cheaper then euro car parts

[@rihaad1998]

🙌 👌

[@callumnickless9680]

Jheez insurance is steep! Me at 19 on a golf R is £1872 a year😂

[@DSGDemons]

You smashed it. My postcode fucked me 😂

[@_tobz]

£1872??? Me at 19 is 9k

[@jamieg2159]

I’m 20 and my insurance was 1000

[@ronaldoguthrie252]

Where tf do you live to have it that cheap 😂

[@hassanmahmood5823]

Tobzzz - I’m 22 and it’s 1300 4 years no claims

[@officialmunroe5036]

Gd video😉

[@tezerbotheredflea6486]

Maybe get the Vw main dealer prices right first?!

[@DSGDemons]

terry mills quotes that I’ve received from VW main dealers and from their websites, may vary in your area. 👍🏼

[@tezerbotheredflea6486]

DSG Demons I get that man 😉 I work for a Vw main dealer. The dsg service (auto trans) is £199, the Haldex front and rear is £79 each also it can very between the 6-7 speed. 👍🏻

[@DSGDemons]

terry mills how come VW Preston quoted me £250 for haldex? They trying to have me on?

[@tezerbotheredflea6486]

DSG Demons there is some “Vw set prices” as in “fixed servicing ie servicing,brakes,can belts obviously some excluded gte/Touareg/Passate etc however the 4x4 servicing is advertised on the Vw website as 4 wheel drive service £79 front + 79 rear. 👍🏻

[@antonyv8171]

Tezer Botheredflea what did u mean front and rear Haldex? Isn’t there the one Haldex filter (that u don’t replace, just clean) / oil resovoir (oil that u do change) ?

[@512460]

Jehhz £205 a year road tax my r32 57 is £565

[@DSGDemons]

Wtf that’s mad

[@5staribby729]

I live in bolton lol

[@themadnessgti9079]

Golf are for rich people not for poor guys 😆😆

[@james-oo7qj]

They not exactly rich are they when they get everything on finance and most likely live at home with parents 😂

[@xiDynazty]

I dont get financing a car, is it your car at the end of the day or not? And why not save money its cheaper no?

[@KING0SISQO]

Damn. Your car is more than what I agreed to pay monthly plus my insurance combined. I think it was £280 all in. But of course it’s not a golf R. It’s a 308 gti. But performance is not far off.

[@KING0SISQO]

@@glasgowsgreen3942 lol what’s comical. Do the maths. The golf r (mk7/7.5) is 300hp. The 308 gti is 270hp. Like I said not far off. So explain why’s that far off. But now I’m looking for a comical explanation 🤣🤣🤣

[@KING0SISQO]

@@glasgowsgreen3942 pal. I’m talking about stock cars. Plus rolling there’s not much in it. You are talking about remapping to make it look far superior. I know all about the golf r. I don’t need a lesson about it. That’s the reason why I stated there’s not much between them when you take launch control out and dsg when both are rolling. Your comparison needs to be apples to apples. Not on variable what ifs.

[@KING0SISQO]

@@glasgowsgreen3942 yes. But your basing times which includes launch control. A manual golf r is over 5 seconds with 4wd drive. It’s a big difference over dsg. That’s why I said your comparison is not apples to apples. And then after that I said rolling is where they are pretty much the same. I’m not trying to say it’s as quick from 0-60. But it’s only 30hp slower and against a manual it’s not really quicker. A cupra is faster than a golf r rolling even the 280s as fast as a golf r but with slight edge. But these are all stock figures im referring to rolling. I would never try and and race a 4wd vs fwd. the race is finished before it got off.

[@burakkabadayi8860]

Bro come on , I’m 19 and paid 1250 for the year insurance for an R

[@spiritwalkeres9196]

Was your mum or dad the named driver?

[@burakkabadayi8860]

@@spiritwalkeres9196 both of them are mate

[@spiritwalkeres9196]

@@burakkabadayi8860 that might be why then. It’s just by myself, even if I put my mum on there it still doesn’t go down by much