How Much Does It Cost To BUY and REFIT a boat ?? [E28]

[@ssartune]

I truly hope you gain more subscribers and viewers. Your channel seems under appreciated at the moment for the content you bring. Best of luck with the rest of the refit.

[@sailingsqualo]

Aawww 🥰 how kind.. Thank you 🙏

[@patrykmatkovic5965]

You are really honestly peoples which I know on this life.. I'm really happy you are showing to new buyer's how is looking to buy from someone, really you have very hard work and everything what are you doing is preopley on high standard ! If I'm gonna buy for myself small boat, would to come back to your channel, many tip and things how to do !you are deserve for 100.000 subscribe ! Greetings from small room in Jewish House, one day leave and travelling in small boat, Love ya you channel ❤❤

[@stormeagle4524]

Hi. Great project. Love your approach. I own Oyster 39, hull 26 and I'm in the middle of total refit. Know what you talking about:) But it's the boat that will repay all with the safty, beauty and seaworthiness. Love from Slovenia,Emanuel&Andrja

[@sailingsqualo]

Hi 👋☺️nice to hear from another Oyster 39 owners! Welcome to our channel!! we are of the same opinion, she is a great boat, all the work will pay off eventually. Have you come across any major problems? What are your plans when you guys are done with the refit? Best, Ziggy&Nat 🥰

[@nick.caffrey]

Thank you for your honest and clear setting out of the financial outlay. I'm surprised the survey didn't catch the keel issue. From what you are saying, my guess is that you have 18 months' work ahead of you. Health, strength and energy to you both!

[@sailingsqualo]

Hi Nick, the survey.. 🤦🏼‍♀️ we will talk about the survey another time.

[@nick.caffrey]

@@sailingsqualo Oh. It was one of those...🤕

[@sailingsqualo]

@@nick.caffrey yup..unlucky

[@kevinmartin3859]

Although the cost so far is climbing at the end of the day it is yours and you are doing the work that will help you have a boat to give you your dream of sailing the world I wish you fair winds and happy sailing together

[@sailingsqualo]

Yes, it is. No regrets here as just like you said, this is money spent towards our dreams. And she will be our home for the next 15-20 years let’s hope 🤞

[@FredrikLarssonPhoto]

Great video! :) One thing that I would like to add is that if you refit and go through your boat like you do now.... you will get some knowledge you could not get in any other way. Like you will know Squalo inside out, know for sure she is "good to go" and have put your own personal touch to her. If you would buy a "newer" boat that is already "good enough" you would not get that. Two thumbs up for all the love and energy (and money) you put into this project!

[@sailingsqualo]

Awww thank you ☺️ you are absolutely right in saying that we get to know the boat inside out during the process. That’s priceless 🙌

[@reellove6710]

Very well done and direct to the point. Thank you for your candor.

[@sailingsqualo]

Thank you 🙏

[@robertmcgregor7233]

Love the video as usual, I know the work needing to be completed before your back in the water won't be done overnight and some weekends will have you ripping your hair out. Just please take your time and visualise the stunning and perfect boat you will end up with at the end of all your work. Please take us all along for your journey. 👍👍😁 Rab

[@sailingsqualo]

Ripping our hair out 😂 at times that’s exactly what we wanna do Yes, one step at the time. Thank you as always for your support 🥰

[@bozenagaecka1071]

Hej! Policzyłaś mniej więcej wszystko z tym, że najważniejsza i najcięższa jest Wasza praca a tego nie da się przeliczyć na funty! Z drugiej strony czego się nie robi żeby marzenie stało się rzeczywistością! Tak trzymajcie! 🥰🤩

[@sailingsqualo]

Racja, tego nie da się policzyć.. dzięki za wsparcie 🥰😘

[@sharkmentality9717]

I bought a perfectly maintained Freedom 21 (F21) for the inside passage BC to Alaska. I spent $10,000 US dollars refitting for the trip. Went perfectly!

[@sailingsqualo]

I’m guessing that for a perfectly maintained vessel it is quite a lot, so imagine having a vessel that hasn’t been maintained over the years..at all, no wonder the cost of refitting our boat is growing by the day. BTW in Europe, you would have probably paid double that!

[@MondoRockable]

This is not a surprise for a 40-year-old boat. For every sail boat it's not unknown to need: standing rigging (every 10 years or so), running rigging (every 5 years or so), sails (every 5 to 10 years), deck, teak (every 20 years), main engine (every 20 - 25 years), underwater fittings (every 5 to 10 years), electronics and sensors (maximum every 10 years), rudder bearings, autopilot, steering gear elements (10 to 15 years), HVAC (10 to 20 years), refrigeration (15 to 20 years), etc. So it's either pay more upfront for a younger boat, or pay $$$ for a refit on an older vessel. Age/condition vs replacement/refit defines the cost tradeoff. Quite frankly, your costs are not exorbitant for the work you are undertaking.

[@sailingsqualo]

You are absolutely right. Thank you for your input 👍 Since we don’t have that much money upfront for a younger boat which wouldn’t need much work, we opted for a refurb of an old one. Some of the projects we didn’t plan or anticipate doing. Yet here we are, with a boat stripped out and a huge list of projects ahead of us. But hey, we are trying to stay positive and we set ourselves a goal that we gotta finish her. And that’s what we got to do. This is our last call, we are not getting younger 😉 we want to live a little, experience a bit of freedom before we..expire 😅 So if that means we pour all our hard earned money into this boat, so be it. Best, Natalia

[@markdubbert6326]

Hi, don’t give up and you will have a ripper time when sailing away👍

[@sailingsqualo]

Thank you Mark 🙏🙌

[@jaapBooij-rz1id]

Hi, just to give you an Impression. I bought a daysailer in the Netherlands . 27 ft. Victoire 822 from 1977 . Price 150 €. Yes , it should have gone to the scrapyard . As a retired oil-rig mechanic I had the skills to do most of the work myself as overhauling the engine and a lot of epoxy/ polyester work. Yes, i had things made new like the sails, all the rigging, furler and sprayhood and ofcourse the navigation instruments etc. Took the gas cooking away and went to solar cells and battery pack. Now almost ready i spent after 2,5 years around 24000 euro. Yes, still money and with a boat market at a bottom , price wise, i could have bought ?? Something else but again if you buy a boat older as 15 years you still need new rigging, mattresses , curtains, woodwork etc etc .etc . On you tube project 822 by j.booy. Take care and keep up the good work, regards, jaap

[@sailingsqualo]

It sounds like you’ve had an interesting project on your hands. A lot of work by the sounds of it. The good thing is you got the boat pretty much for free. And the money you spent doesn’t sound too bad at all. Well done you for sticking with it, I am sure you had moments where you thought “what in the world I got myself into..”

[@jaapBooij-rz1id]

@@sailingsqualo hi, yes , especially when bills come in for the 3 th party insurance and fees for berth. Invest in good tools . It saves on the long term money and time. I went over to battery tools and a battery power pack to reload them as well . The powerpack is a small one of the brand ecoflow . It has also 4 - 220 connections and takes a starting power of 1600 w. So enough for a circle saw . Go your own way and stay with your plans , do not react on remarks like, when are you ready, etc. In holland we have a saying that says, the best captains stand on land. Keep up the good work . Grtz. Jaap

[@silvanocometta9760]

You are doing very well with those costs. Really reasonable and well spent.

[@sailingsqualo]

Phew.. and I though we spent a fortune. But to be honest we really were buying only whatever was needed at the time. Everything adds up though. :) Nat

[@islandman9619]

Aloha! I don't think you've spent too much; in fact, you seem to have been quite frugal. I don't know much about that particular model, but the brand is of course very well known and I'm thinking of pretty high quality. I'll follow along on your journey as I'm about to start full time sailing in 2023. Cheers!

[@sailingsqualo]

That’s right, we were frugal, buying only what we needed at the time, but still it seems a lot. But tbh we don’t mind spending it on Squalo. Every penny we save goes towards that lady 🥰 What boat will you be sailing? And thank you for following 🙏

[@Tkdmaster1991]

I have also went and bought an old boat, but in my case I haven't seen the need to do near as extensiveof a refit as yours. I was sad to see the beautiful classic interior gone, that's my favorite part of boats of that era..

[@sailingsqualo]

We are planning to keep some of the classic interior, some will be more modern though. I will be honest, as the time goes by we appreciate more and more the classic look on the boat. Well, some of it is gone now..but we will see what we can do to combine the two looks. So stay tuned! And congrats on the boat!! 🙌

[@jonunya3128]

good video! thanks for doing this

[@sailingsqualo]

🙏 thank you Jo

[@andrewfranklin302]

It’s a Labour of love , and I am sure it is going to be worth it.

[@sailingsqualo]

Yasss 😃 absolutely!

[@petephills4626]

Nice video and it's a real pleasure to see you preparing things in the best way possible for you. Too many people are buying old "cheap" yachts and taking off on a cruise inexperienced on a yacht that is less than sea worthy and downright dangerous. They do this in the hope that KZbin will pay for their lifestyle... Mistakes everywhere and a disaster waiting to happen. It's totally refreshing to see people such as yourselves taking your time, doing things the right way, learning as you go and so passionate. Lovely! Don't need to wish you luck as a good preparation brings all the luck you'll ever need. Subscribed and clicked!! Haha 😀

[@sailingsqualo]

Thank you Pete 🙏 how nice of you 🥰 I have to agree with you, we have seen few channels doing just that. But luckily there are others that make sure the vessel is sea worthy. We want to be certain she is safe before we set off. This is going to be our home for the upcoming years 😊 we better get this right! Best, Nat

[@urfuturo6467]

Many thanks for you great story and candid view. It has helped me alot with understanding the cost break down of buying an old boat. Many thanks for your help.

[@sailingsqualo]

Thank you 🙏 Yes, every little thing adds up. Hence we do it gradually, if we were to wait for the moment when we save enough money to buy a yacht well equipped and one that doesn’t need a refit.. well, we wouldn’t be sailing any time soon that’s for sure. Working full time and then spending every penny on this project somehow works for us. 😊

[@silvanocometta9760]

Hello. I also had those push buttons for the bow thruster. They kept stucking in their seating. I replaced them with the joystick an all was ok for years.

[@sailingsqualo]

Oh no..we thought it looks better hence we got the push buttons. It’s more pleasing to the eye.. but if that’s gonna be the case we will probably do the same. Thank you 😊

[@silvanocometta9760]

@@sailingsqualo In my case it happened during the warranty period and the Vetus dealer replaced it free of charge.

[@sailingsqualo]

That’s kind of lucky.

[@jessefalsone1247]

$60K USD seems very low to me compared with my own refit costs on a 37ft boat. Of course you still have a lot more equipment to buy.

[@sailingsqualo]

That’s right, the costs will add up quickly once we get to buying electronics including batteries, getting new rigging, or adding fancy stuff like water maker etc.

[@verne5770]

Good content!. You will end up with a great boat and much cheaper than new. IMHO do not get a wind generator. Noisy, inefficient and high maintenance. Go with bigger Alt and more solar and as much lith as you can afford.

[@sailingsqualo]

You’re probably right. In terms of the wind gen, you are a third person mentioning it..🤔 we are going to have high output alt and plan on quite a substantial battery bank..so perhaps we need to rethink the purchase of wind gen. Thank you 🙏

[@lukefay2464]

Well done Sailing Squalo, thank you for sharing your story

[@sailingsqualo]

Thank you 😊

[@rimasmeleshyus9486]

Incredible great story ,thanks for sharing ⛵️

[@user-mj6sl9qv8j]

good job, and those costs are not major for an older boat this size and getting into a shape you can trust with your lives for long range cruising. check, check and check :-)

[@sailingsqualo]

Thank you 😊 to be honest to us it did seem like a huge sum at first, but like you said, it is worth it, considering we have to feel confident she is safe for offshore cruising. We estimated how much it would cost by the time we finish, then we looked at yachts for sale within that range..and all of them would still require a big investment before they were as well equipped as Squalo will soon be.

[@user-mj6sl9qv8j]

@@sailingsqualo yes and thats what you might think you know about what those other boats needed! You know your own boats secrets now and of course great accommodation, safe and comfortable in a sea. Looking on- line right now I don't see anything likely to be more boat for less money. You would have to be very lucky - id rather save my luck for the lottery than the hopes of saving a few thousand on an old yacht!

[@justinf1343]

Thanks for sharing. Thinking of doing something similar myself.

[@sailingsqualo]

Thanks! All the best! If you wanna do similar refit, we find that money is definitely no.1, but time goes pretty much hand in hand .. time needed to do such project. Something we definitely struggle with 😓 so best of luck with your project! 🤗

[@bendaves77]

30k is a pretty good deal... she needed work but alot of it had to do with sitting in the water for 2 years and there's things that you have chosen to do that weren't necessary or mandatory right now..

[@sailingsqualo]

That’s true, we didn’t have to take her apart this far..we could have done less and she would still sail and serve us nicely for many years to come. Ziggy is the kind of man who prefers to have extra insurance and peace of mind that everything is done like he wanted. Our house when we bought that “fixer upper” was best example of that. I think I should post some photos at some point to show how far he had taken that house apart to renovate it. I will compile whatever I can find of the ‘before’ and ‘after’ photos. I think this would explain a bit more in terms of his approach to the boat refit. I can definitely see similarities. I will post it on Patreon and make it available to everyone to view. ☺️

[@bendaves77]

@sailingsqualo I understand Ziggys madness quite well. I'm the same way about any project I take on.. I can't just put a bandage on it and then make it look good knowing that it's done half a$$ed as they call it.. it frustrates my wife because she just wants the nice end result and doesn't understand that in needs to be done correctly and left better than I found it.

[@horacioruigomez1137]

muy buenos videos y bien explicadotodos los detalles del trabajo, y los costos. Mucha suerte con eso. Falta menos. Consulta: No hicieron una inspeccion antes de comprar el barco? Un saludo.

[@sailingsqualo]

Hola! Gracias por tu lindo comentario 😊 We did have a surveyor on our sea trial, he "inspected" the boat (although with our limited knowledge at times it felt like we knew more than he did) but he never gave us the report, a complete waste of time he was (we obviously never paid him in the end, that's why survey was not included in total). We still bought the boat without the survey report, took a risk there for sure.

[@TheSailorSchool]

Great honest video! Miss you guys

[@sailingsqualo]

Hey Miles 😊 thanks 🙏 you are still in the UK? gotta grab a cold brewski together and catch up for sure! 😉

[@c.a.mcneil7599]

Agree with black cat hope you get more subscribers. Your content is excellent. 750 for sand paper you both are having way to much fun😳

[@sailingsqualo]

🥰 thank you so much. And yeah.. sandpaper is the equivalent of gold during boat refit. 😁

[@philiporourke7896]

Great vid, thanx.

[@sailingsqualo]

😊 Thank you!

[@rdm4475]

You said in the beginning of the video that near the end you would provide the total cost in US Dollars. Did I miss that? Ron

[@sailingsqualo]

@14:04 😊 apologies if it wasn’t clear enough 😅

[@AndyL31]

Really informative video. Thank you!

[@sailingsqualo]

Aww thanks! ☺️

[@JHK66]

You definitely want a AIS Transmitter. Or at least an active Radar Transponder. Better both.

[@sailingsqualo]

Oh yesss, 100% we will have an AIS transponder. Radar is also on the list 🙌

[@briandale8386]

In America the place for marine Perkins is Trans Atlantic diesel. The old Manicooler or heat exchanger for a Perkins6354 you can’t get anymore . Its 500O grand to get a refit kit . Ridiculous , the people there are the most knowledgeable about Perkins in America

[@sailingsqualo]

That’s right, they were on the top of the browser when I was searching for Perkins spares etc and thought they were based in the UK. I contacted Perkins in Peterborough, not far from us. The prices are also ridiculous but anyway they don’t have most of them in stock and no longer manufacture them either ..

[@briandale8386]

@@sailingsqualo is their a sister company in England . I know they get parts from England. When you pull it up from England does it route you to a Trans Atlantic Diesel in England . The address here will say the state of Virginia. I’ve been their . There’s half a football field of old Perkins engines setting outside. Its a cool place . Wow there’s is a lot of Perkins in Peterborough . Thanks

[@Seahorn_]

You forgot one major cost..... count all the hours you spend on working on the boat and multiply it with your normal hourly salary.....😅

[@sailingsqualo]

That’s true, that’s the time we would have normally spend at work. 😉

[@hanselito2416]

Could you not have restored the teak rather than replaced it?

[@sailingsqualo]

We are actually restoring it 😊 Replacing it is waaaay too expensive, so not an option.

[@eddybalentien4263]

Hi. I am in the boat as you are (same problems). Don't buy a wind generator. Invest in good lithium batteries and a good alternator. Could you provide me with the contact that made the panels for you?

[@sailingsqualo]

Sorry to hear you are facing similar issues. Is it with the keel as well? We will be getting high output alternator from Mastervolt :) will rethink the wind generator. You are not the first one who actually suggested that.. 🤔 The panels were put together by a friend, we will ask him if he is interested in making another 😉 Best, Ziggy

[@eddybalentien4263]

Hi. Fortunately the keel us fine. But I had major upgrade with rudder and the column. But I have a polish that is helping fix the boat. The panel is for his boat.

[@kirk9671]

If I got a used catamaran I would budget 100K for fixing stuff. So any old boat cost money.

[@sailingsqualo]

I reckon your estimate sounds about right.. especially these days everything has gone up tremendously.

[@kirk9671]

@@sailingsqualo most people would have to pay for labor too.

[@sailingsqualo]

Precisely 👍

[@From_Refugee_To_Yacht_Owner]

Tell me about it.

[@sailingsqualo]

I hope the cost doesn't put aspiring boat owners off :) those on a tight budget especially.

[@joetml]

Money well spent

[@sailingsqualo]

🙏 I think so too 😉 Nat

[@Chris-kq9lb]

I did not like this video you didn’t illustrate any of these with pictures

[@MrCubansurfer]

For that kind of money, you could have gotten a 2017 Beneteau Oceanis 38 with no work having to be done at all… What about the cost of all your upgraded NAV systems?

[@sailingsqualo]

And where did you find Beneteau Oceanis 38 from 2017 for that kind of money? And to be honest, I still wouldn’t trade our boat for it. The Nav systems.. well, that depends how far we want to take the upgrade, but we would have done it probably on any boat we would get. Systems are usually outdated or even though the list of nav equipment is usually very long during sale, most don’t even work.

[@nevilledesmond451]

forget wind gens, go for large output alternator, batteries wait and see AGMs with a good batteries monitor and solar . good for 8 years, lithium too much money and still a fire risk .my sailing buddy says and he used to work for batt tec NOKIA. heavy batteries and water tanks on a oyster39 do not make much diff to boat speed.I have 150 gallons of water in two tanks under saloon seats and 150 gallons of fuel . 900 miles at 6.5 kn . sails at 5 kns in 12knots of wind 7.5 in 15kn plus. you can allways refit electricals as needed as you go. lith phos power pack may work for filming { FAIL ISLE} UTUBE

[@sailingsqualo]

Large output alternator from Mastervolt is on the list as well, forgot to mention ;) Wow! The tanks on your boat for both water and fuel are enormous. Ours aren’t too bad either, 105 gallons of water (475-litres) and 100 gallons of fuel (450-litre).

[@blacksmithjohn6880]

Looking good. Great work so far 👊 we are looking at having a generator running off the hydraulic power take off on the gear box.

[@sailingsqualo]

Don’t know much about this sort of setup. Sounds interesting, could you share more info/links on this please?

[@robertbed]

Great job! Greetings from Barbados! Bela and Rob ;)

[@sailingsqualo]

Hey Bella and Rob! 😃 lovely to hear from you! Barbados you say 🙌 have fun in the sun! 😚