How much extended scale is too much?

How much extended scale is too much? | Subzero Rogue VI 30"

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@himawarii_gg Жыл бұрын

people buy this expecting a 30" baritone guitar like the popular Squier one, but in reality it is a Bass VI (it is even marketed that way, in the name Rogue VI) it uses a standard 24-84 Bass VI string gauge, most standard bass necks actually has a 22mm thickness on the 1st fret (25mm at the 12th, so this one actually runs pretty thin), maybe even the pickups are voiced that way intentionally (although I doubt it, most likely it's just cheap humbuckers to fit the price)

@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy Жыл бұрын

Fender has a Bass VI string set, which is a 24-100 gauge. It works wonders for the Fender, so I suggest trying it on a Rogue VI.

@cagedoctaves Жыл бұрын

Doesn't work I'm afraid because Ernie Ball "trim" the A string (5th) to suit a Bass Vi (which doesn't have a reverse headstock) my guitar tech had to re-use the string it came fitted with at the factory. I've bought a couple of sets of D'Addario EXL156 for the time when I come to change them (these are the factory strings if you read gear4music web page).

@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy Жыл бұрын

@@cagedoctaves Not Ernie Ball. D'Addario is who makes Fender strings, so the Fender Bass VI set would be the best replacement. Plus, the Fender set has a 100-gauge. The 84-gauge is precisely the problem with the actual D'Addario set. You need a 100-gauge.

@cagedoctaves Жыл бұрын

@@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy sorry didn't know these existed (Fender Super 250 Bass VI Nickel) but thanks this has solved my problem with the SubZero Rogue VI - cheers.

@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy Жыл бұрын

@@cagedoctaves You are very welcome!

@TheLowest Жыл бұрын

Just incase anyone else is thinking of buying a baritone for lower tuning, what you're buying when you get a longer scale isn't more tension on the strings, it's purely intonation. String gauge has a far bigger effect on tension than scale does, hense why a bass at 34" scale still needs like 105 gauge strings. As well as the fact that when you get lower the distance between notes is spread out more so you'll need to make an bigger changes for literally like 1 semitone.

@justaamateur6533 Жыл бұрын

A longer scale also helps with intonation though. You can put an 80 gauge string in drop E on a 25,5' scale guitar, the intonation will be inaccurate though

@godsinbox Жыл бұрын

can you dumb down the explanation? wha, about wha?

@Not_Andrew_Huberman Жыл бұрын

The longer a string is the more tension it needs to reach a note

@non-continuum Жыл бұрын

On the contrary! Scale length is by far the best way to get higher string tension. Just use string tension calculators and change the scale length at the same gauge and tuning. Using .072 on a 28inch compared to a 26,5inch with similar specs is like day and night. Increasing string gauge will only give you intonation problems and turn your sound dull and flobby.

@gustavomazonave8536 Жыл бұрын

@@non-continuum What he is saying is that a longer scale still needs a bigger gauge to feel right. The longer the scale the more tension, but the longer distance the string is more flexible too. Think of it as a slack line, the tension is great but it is still flexible...

@stndrd3608 Жыл бұрын

24-84 is the standard daddario set for Bass VI type guitars. And those are notoriously to light on the low end for the E1 standard tuning you should use. Strings I know will work with the Harley benton Bass VI are: The Pyramid strings for the Loathe Drop E variant. The Ernie ball 20-90 in drop D#. Those work really nice und sound amazing. Keep it mind I‘m using a Seymour Duncan nazgul though.

@Tempo1337 Жыл бұрын

I was about to say, thanks for pointing that out. He's using way too light gauge strings.

@eXSPLY Жыл бұрын

30" and 84 too light for E1? Absolutely not true at all

@floodstate Жыл бұрын

@@eXSPLY the issue isn't the tension on the low E really, a lot of people like how the 84 feels. The issue is that relative to the rest of the strings it's far too loose. It's just not comfortable to play having to account for the flubbiness of the low E constantly while every other string is debatably too high in tension. I personally use the Ernie Ball 20-90 set which has a better balance across all strings in E1. I play in F standard and drop D# most of the time, but E standard is fine and drop D is just bearable, a .100 would probably be best for that though. A note for anyone considering the Ernie Ball set for the Rogue VI though - the .74 for the A string is just barely long enough to reach the tuner, I have locking tuners so it's not too big of a deal, but if you don't you'll maybe need something to help bend/kink the short piece of string that fits through the tuner to hold it in place. I also suspect if you get very unlucky and the string is a few millimetres shorter than normal it might not reach at all, I've bought quite a few sets now and had no issues though.

@zaxzumu4605 10 ай бұрын

I use the Stringjoy 26w-95 set on a gretsch jet baritone and I love them.

@stndrd3608 9 ай бұрын

@@zaxzumu4605 stringjoy sets are really nice, very balanced 👍 Yeah as others pointed out in general a 84 on 30“ is plenty for E1. But the rest of the set feels really off. I now just use the set I use for Drop F# on my 28“ baritone for Drop E on the 30“ and it works well enough (pyramid 14-74)

@tobyempire9502 Жыл бұрын

Very well explained. For me 28“ is the perfect scale for a baritone. It combines everything you want to have for low tunings. Of course it depends also on the guitar model 😉

@PuRExCoNVerSiOnx Жыл бұрын

Stringjoy sets work on this guitar too and they have some pretty crazy gauges to choose from

@Jorgetime Жыл бұрын

The guy in Loathe that used this guitar quit the band :( He now collaborates with bands like Consvmer and fromJoy

@larsdanielsson193 Жыл бұрын

I put an EMG 81 in the bridge position on mine. It made all the difference in the world. The muddiness is gone now.

@ej1_drew 11 күн бұрын

all excellent points from your experience. good video review

@loki3292 9 ай бұрын

I have a Schecter Hellcat VI. These things are great- good to see them finally getting some love. I dig that black/white theme with the block inlays and binding. Really a nice lookin axe.

@nicolasaraistrujak208 3 ай бұрын

thanks for sharing your experience and opinion, I shall consider it

@FATHEROFALLWORMS Ай бұрын

I was looking at buying this and you're making me think twice lol, still a good video

@stephanwilliams9622 6 ай бұрын

As far as strings go, I tune down to Drop D1 woth a custom set of string from StringJoy amd the gauges are .090XL, .060, .046, .032, .024p, .017 I find them to be super balanced compared to other bass vi sets.

@TheCrumpers53 Жыл бұрын

I bought this guitar and it came shipped in standard tuning a whole octave down. That is a bass 6 guitar. The squire is a baritone. They are not the same thing.

@marvinrockon Жыл бұрын

I have one. Had a Seymour Duncan Nazgul in it, now a Lundgren M6. Tension is bad on drop e, its stock tunings, with the strings it comes. The Fender Bass VI 100 gauge is doing just fine here, i tuned mine lower to double drop d tho. Works fine with e as well. I prefer the tension comparable to a 25.5 e standard one. I pick hard, so i cant have them wobmle around. The neck for me is pretty decent. I have ultra thin necks and vintage baseball bat guitars, this one is totally fine. I actually like the width, you can dig in deeper without things getting in your way. No problem. I also play bass, so the scale length is totally no problem for me. Overall, i think some of the problems of it are on you. I calculated the string tensions with gauges and stuff. The string set i mentioned is the one i can recommend. Gauge is way more impactful for low tunings than a few inches. 100 btw is the thickest you can fit through the body, a 105 bass string i tried, didnt fit. ( Surprising that the pyramids didnt fit through yours.) With a better tension and heavier picking, you get a lot back of what you think could be lost by thicker strings. I even think they sound pretty good considering how thick they are and i like bright sounds. Even if so, nothing a treble and presence knob cant fix anyways, after my tests. No big deal. But there wasnt too much lost after all, not as much as i thought. Bit i didnt tried these strings with the stock pickups. Maybe thats the thing. For me, it does what it does, intonation is good, tension is rock solid and when you embrace it being a little different and have all the different aspects in mind, you could be golden. :) I love it, but i agree on the unglued ferrits, the okish fret ends and in my case the not very good tuners. I thought the pickups were ok for the price. Not very bad. (Keyan has a comparison with BKPs) I think its just not for you very much and thats ok. :) like you said, its an opinion thing and sharing experiences. I wanted to share mine too in case someone is interested in one. But i get it, its a blend of bass and guitar, its not for everyone.

@DALILAVEY 7 ай бұрын

I want to put an m6 in my squier bass vi bridge, how do you like it? I’m trying to go for a more stringy meshuggah-ish tone.

@marvinrockon 7 ай бұрын

@@DALILAVEY it's pretty damn good, love it. It's not the only thing that would suit that kind of sound, bare knuckles polymath and legendary pickups has one, that was on this channel as well. Don't remember the exact name, I think it was the Zeus tho. For me tho, the Zeus goes into that character a bit too much tho and I don't like that. For some setups and rigs, that could be a bit too much. But yeah, Lundgrens. Great pickups, all across the board. Terrible marketing, if any (not really any) but damn good sounds.

@Patrick-rf7vx Жыл бұрын

I play a 84 for E on a 28“. 72 is way too light to go low. I toyed with the idea of buying the rogue and get a 90 and put it im drop D, but getting the right strings is what kept me from pulling the trigger.

@ishay777777777 Жыл бұрын

Vildjharta is using 0.70 on drop e with 27.6 inch Lighter strings sound better. I recommend switching to thin flexible picks and moderate the way you are picking. .84 is way too much. I use either .74 or .80 on a 27 inch

@escapegulag4317 9 ай бұрын

The guitar comes standard with 24 - 84 strings on it. It comes tuned in E1 Standard. What did you expect in terms of tuning with a 72 ? F would probably be tight enough with an 80

@giominor88 Жыл бұрын

@Milian is the spacing of the poles normal or F-type? Asking to know if I buy it whether I can upgrade with BKs or Lundren. Any advice will be so helpful!

@steverolfeca Жыл бұрын

Go with what YOU prefer. I just went through the same decision process, and went with a 27” Squier w/P90’s. The shorter scale made it feel more agile, but it was the uniquely voiced P90’s that sealed the deal. The wider range of string choices was a plus as well. Also, B-to B, A-A and drop A are about as low as I am likely to go.

@steverolfeca Жыл бұрын

Oh, and both Squiers (P90 and Classic Vintage) felt more alive and resonant than the Gretsch, Danelectro, etc.

@stephanwilliams9622 6 ай бұрын

I love 30" scale length guitars. This SubZero was my first one (thanks Loathe), and since then, I've owned a total of 5 different ones..with my 6th expected in the mail today. The ones I've owned outside of this one are the Ibanez SRC6, Agile 630 Intrepid Pro, OLP MM5 Baritone, Harley Benton JA-Baritone, and I have the Firefly FFJA VI Baritone arriving today. ..all of that to say that 30" scale length guitars are all VERY different from each other. My favorite so far being the Agile, but even it has faults that the other models don't have.

@mostlyspace3175 Жыл бұрын

Loathe tunes in drop-E, using this guitar. With all the problems you listed, how do you suppose they do it?

@FATHEROFALLWORMS Ай бұрын

The lower you tune, the more exponential tension loss gets. I got the HB JA baritonr, also 30" and my low is a G at .66, which is excessively light. A .72 is also really light for F#.

@athmaid Жыл бұрын

Loathe uses a bass VI set with 105 in the bass afaik. I always thought the string gauges on 8 or 9 string guitars are comically large but you really need it if you tune down that much. Or install an Evertune like Keyan lol

@thedroptuner1448 28 күн бұрын

The interesting thing is scale makes more difference in tone than tension. People greatly exaggerate the difference in tension. The tone changes drastically though.

@ondzin Жыл бұрын

The 28" Chapman sounded gnarlier unplugged tbh.

@ethereal8655 Жыл бұрын

I was hoping you'd do a review of this guitar - you delivered as always! And those demos... Once again I have to say it - your style, your approach to writing music, accenting certain parts in riffs are just an instant stankface to me. It literally took me 5 seconds to get chills down my spine on clean demo.

@braceta Жыл бұрын

Would love you to review the Harley Benton JA baritone 30” inch scale to see how it compares

@7171jay 10 ай бұрын

The Harley Benton is also a Bass VI which is a 30" scale intended to be tuned to E1 (one octave below standard guitar low E) so he is going to have the same problems with the Harley Benton as the Rogue SubZero. The deal is that you just can't have everything. These are Bass VI instruments modeled after the original Fender Bass VI not baritone guitars so to tune down to E1 or anywhere near that lighter strings than 24-84 just aren't going to work very well. Actually many people who enjoy a Bass VI go with an even heavier low E string like a 95 or 100. With baritone strings (rather than Bass VI ones) even with 30" scale you would need to stick to baritone type tunings not bass tuning unless of course you happen to enjoy floppy and muddy. There is a lot of misunderstanding about Bass VI type instruments as they are rather odd and unique beasts and are not necessarily for everyone.

@hardtobearit Жыл бұрын

that thats why i love my Jericho guitars Fusion 6. they did baritone right. they give you a extended scale but offset it into the body so it feels normal.

@TheNikkelman 8 ай бұрын

Would 13-62 be ok for drop A? I think maybe the .013 will be too tight?

@aebious8886 10 ай бұрын

imagine a 30 scale 7 string.... the ultimate djent machine

@gonzoengineering4894 8 ай бұрын

Been praying for one of these!

@rain_kd_kd1 Жыл бұрын

Love your reviews man!

@PaulHirsh Жыл бұрын

I'm hesitating between this and the paradigm bari. You helped me decide. Thanks.

@Elliotwavs Жыл бұрын

Stringjoy has really long strings. I play mine in drop Ab, and use their standard Baritone set.

@KahruSuomiPerkele Жыл бұрын

I played a Musicman Steerling 30" guitar, I can't remember the model name, probably MM5, but it played easily despite its 30" Also, older reviews from the subzero were pretty bad regarding the finish, so I don't know if you're lucky or they fixed their quality control issues, but it's pretty cool that you received one that is in good shape, despite everything.

@carlosjbaez3228 Жыл бұрын

Did you have to replace the nut when going to a lighter string gauge?

7 ай бұрын

pyramid strings had a awesome custom shop for strings, hmmm i check that out ! Thanks for bringing that to my mind ... and there is a string tension calculator

@worldaswar3784 Жыл бұрын

i am wondering how can you get only Fsharp tunning... every other video i saw on this guitar they played E1 or D1 or Dsharp tunnings with stock strings...hm... they could be lying :D

@brokenhead6018 Жыл бұрын

Hi! Try to remove tone from the circuit. I did it on my schecter omen 8, and it added presence and clarity to it's stock pickups.

@tonytaormina4759 3 ай бұрын

what tuning are you using?

@spongebobhr818 8 ай бұрын

Whats another guitar that can give that loathecaster sound around the same price point?

@marzbitenhaussen 10 ай бұрын

On mine replaced the hardware with Hip-shot locking cylindrical tunners and Tune-o-mattic style bridge and bridge post plus Classic Fishman fluency pickups, for strings, the D'Addario EXL156 (24 to 84) sounds like a thermonuclear explosion, best and most fun instrument in my studio

@madsam7582 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for demonstrating it clean, with skill. Djent is fine, but not a good guitar test.

@nathanminert3119 Жыл бұрын

I think you need bass vi strings to go down to drop E or lower.

@TheMassdistortion 6 ай бұрын

do you really need 24 frets on that?

@aftertheendtimes 5 ай бұрын

Got a guitar from gear4music at the same way of package, wich came in one piece, but it is a miracle =)

@KaiDown Жыл бұрын

24-84 is a pretty unbalanced set, especially for drop tunings. Winspear strings are my choice, all of their strings taper off at 37" so it works great for long scale guitars. I personally need an 80 gauge for Drop E, so Winspear's 15-80 gauge set works great. Great prices too, I've been using their strings for 5 years or so. As for your comments regarding tension, the longer the string length, the less perceived tension you have, so you usually need to raise the tension a little more than you'd expect. Pair that with the fact that 3" extra scale length is only equivalent to 2 semitones tension-wise and you'll realise that string tension isn't really the main sell of a baritone. For me, I find that long-scale baritones are more about getting a great intonation than getting the right tension.

@CTG-TV Жыл бұрын

Great comment! Tottaly on point!

@AlfredNazGates Жыл бұрын

Took about 2 weeks to have mine sent back for an exchange, the first one they delivered had signs of droppage on the main box. But the Outer box was unscathed. Making me think it took a big fall before it left their warehouse and then they still sent it to me. It broke the scarf joint at the headstock and significant damage showed the tip of the headstock actually went through the box.

@sebsteezy 8 ай бұрын

mine got a huge ding and crack in the finish behind the bridge.. arrived in 2 half boxes like yours barely taped together and open on the actual guitar box the sunburst one i ordered aswell arrived in proper packaging and was in mint condition. returning both as i wasnt sure which one i liked more colorwise.. decided to wait for a amarok baritone from harley benton

@TheAverageGam3r Жыл бұрын

dude i ordered a bass from them and got it in the same exact way... hole in the corner i could reach in and grab it. somehow no scratches at all

@gonzoengineering4894 8 ай бұрын

Those sound like really light strings for what you're trying to do. Increased diameter for tuning gets diminishing returns as you get lower and lower. Compare normal sets, the e string get a world of difference with only 1 thousandth of an inch while a 58 vs a 56 low E won't feel very different at all If you want a baritone guitar 30 inches is probably too long. If you want a short scale bass you can play your guitar licks on 30 inches is magical.

@naivedays5421 Жыл бұрын

I just got mine but there's so much buzz when I tuned it to B standard. I still have the strings it came with.

@Lutzifer31337 Жыл бұрын

i have the brown-burst version of it and love the pickups

@ryancarrollguitar 8 ай бұрын

The high strings often have WAY too much tension for me, which adds a twang to anything above the 12th so i had to get a custom set from stringjoy. Using tension the way i like (16-18 ibs per string) i ended up with a .014 to .072 set

@adriagil5041 10 ай бұрын

u have many baritone sets, what i do is use a 8 string set 9-80 and just remove the 9 and 11.. and voila and u have even more thicker calibers. Ernie ball 8 pack costs 13 so... no problem at all

@tomsisson660 3 ай бұрын

At first, I thought that it sounds too much like a bass. So just buy a bass. But the more I heard it the more I heard deep moody sounds. Definitely worth having one of these guitars in your guitar collection. But I suggest the Schecter 30 inch. Tom Sisson

@soulriffer 8 ай бұрын

génial ! i love this album !!!

@sitrusbrio4101 Жыл бұрын

I ordered mine 4 weeks ago. After 1 week of issues with the delivery the package finally arrived, but the package was in terrible condition. Not only that, but there was a huge hole in the packaging that went all the way through to the guitar. I had to send it back because of the damage the body of the guitar had. Last week I got a new one and luckily this time it was packed properly and arrived in good shape. Only issue that the new guitar has, is this really weird "chicken foot" shaped indent in the paint and the finish. I might repaint and finish the guitar at some point. It definitely has fair share of flaws and I'm not sure if it was worth the money and the hassle.

@michaldivismusic Жыл бұрын

Agreed, this is too long. I tune to DADGAD but dropped to F on my 27" Evertune guitar and it works great. I do have to buy single strings for the weird tuning but both Ernie Ball and Daddario offer singles with the right gauges for my use case. Btw, I'm using a .72 for the low F string. My goal was to go down to drop E, which the Evertune doesn't allow as a .72 is the thickest gauge that fits the bridge but I bet a 28" scale length might get me that extra semitone. And honestly, I find anything longer than 28" kinda pointless as pitch shifters have gotten very good and you can easily achieve double drop Z or whatever using those on top of already being tuned low as hell. It's mostly strong noise at that point anyway, albeit a very cool one.

@aebious8886 10 ай бұрын

Cope

@denislavdenchev2572 Жыл бұрын

For some reason I feel like playing some Vola on this

@user-ho4fv8vd6x Жыл бұрын

I have the same problem with that guitar that it feels oddly loose tentioned, even with super thick strings. I have a .100 on a low d/e on mine. But I have friend who owns the squier jazzmaster 30" and he has a .080 on e which legit feels like it has more tention than mine which doesnt make any sence at all but that's how it feels🤔

@gingerjam2192 Жыл бұрын

30” must feel like a short scale bass and not a guitar anymore. For a low E on a guitar 28” is fine.

@aebious8886 10 ай бұрын

Cope

@jotunbjorn Жыл бұрын

I use custom Ernie Ball 8-72 in my 28" 8-string. They're little over 1 meter long in total. You could try their EB-2624 Skinny Top Heavy Bottom 009-080 and just leave out the top 2 strings.

@lgcovers1 Жыл бұрын

I've heard that the ernie ball bass vi set fits this one too?

@kuben1k748 Жыл бұрын

can we get ur presets for Gojira?

@MadDjentah Жыл бұрын

24-84 goes well with low A, like drop A octave below

@DiamondLifer Жыл бұрын

I’m using a 20-90 on my custom Jazzmaster 30’. I’m in drop E1.

@spastickitchen Жыл бұрын

Longer scale length means higher tension, but longer string length means lower stiffness. The reversed headstock also factors into stiffness, even if not for tension. A standard headstock would give better stiffness; headless would be even better. Also, 30" is two frets longer than 27", so, even if it feels super long, tensionwise, you are talking about a whole step difference. If you get something with better balance and pickups and better stiffness, a longer scale length could be a net positive, but it depends on personal preferences. Of course the tension is all that matters to get clear, linearly harmonic, bright tone.

@Potatoenfuego 10 ай бұрын

this or the harley benton ja hh?

@MilianMalivukMusic 9 ай бұрын

Absolutely the Harley Benton, for me at least.

@thebunn Жыл бұрын

Pyramid strings are notoriously VERY "dead" on arrival (sound and feel). Stringjoy sound a lot brighter / livelier. Also, a .080 to 13 set would be better.

@dougb3854 Жыл бұрын

Kalium strings for the win

@cagedoctaves Жыл бұрын

My recently purchased Ibanez M80M has a 30" scale length and a wizard style neck, however it comes fitted with the most rediculously skinny strings for the 7th and 8th strings. From your "My problems with it" section I think your problem is you're expecting it to play like a guitar (when it "nearly" plays like a bass) this could explain why gear4music have 5 returns in their "nearly new" link for the SubZero baritone VI (players like yourself expecting a guitar and getting a "nearly-a-bass-but-not-quite-a-guitar") I think you need to experience a Warwick bass neck and weigh that against your Ibanez wizard-neck preference.

@rhitosparsha Жыл бұрын

Yeah the Ibanez 8 string set has extremely thin string gauges. I got one because it's cheaper than all the other sets where I live. On my custom multiscale 8 with a 27.5" scale length on the bottom string, I find the 0.065 to be quite good for F#, but I'd prefer heavier strings for anything lower. What tuning do you have your M80M in?

@cagedoctaves Жыл бұрын

@@rhitosparsha "standard" Meshuggah 8-string tuning (F standard) so what you're using (F# standard) with all strings tuned down by one semi-tone. I've got some sets of Ernie Ball "Skinny Top Heavy Bottom" and "Slinky" so I'll use the heaviest of both sets (but not sure they'll fit as these didn't fit on the SubZero - we'll see how they work out).

@bleh8789 Жыл бұрын

Scale length barely affects tension so I'm not surprised you're having issues tuning it much lower

@Cpmnk Жыл бұрын

what? wtf do you mean

@Seven7Pain1 11 ай бұрын

Thats cause it is a Bass VI thats why its Subzero Rogue VI

@ericnicolleau4331 Жыл бұрын

I wonder how short scale is too short. Shawn Lane's Vigier is 24.75 with 24 frets and it's the easiest guitar to play according to Marshall Harrison. Why we not see more guitars like that?

@gingerjam2192 Жыл бұрын

That’s the scale length for all the Gibson guitars! That is a fine scale length for standard tuning or Eb but for lower tunings it is too short IMO. Mastodon disagree with me though.

@espltdec1000vbk Жыл бұрын

@@gingerjam2192 A lot of Doom Metal bands actually prefer this scale length for low tunings. Les Pauls and Sgs are quiete common. But of course they are going for different sound than modern metal bands.

@thedeepend7530 Жыл бұрын

The dullness problem can be said like that lol, cheap bridge, cheap plastic nut and cheap pickups...

@EDCObsession Жыл бұрын

that color is so much nicer than the jazzmaster looking one. also a shame about the packaging, makes me really not want to order it from that site, especially since i'm in the US

@justaamateur6533 Жыл бұрын

I honestly find the polar white pretty boring, ive found that the sunbursts look really pretty. But hey, thats just me

@EDCObsession Жыл бұрын

@@justaamateur6533 well the sunbursts you see everywhere for jazzmasters, but not so much the white with maple board

@14ohms Жыл бұрын

i just bought the harley benton ja baritone. 30" too with some 0.80 ghs strings. i hope i'll not have the same problems..

@motoxjosh29 Жыл бұрын

how was it? looks like a fun one to toy with.

@14ohms Жыл бұрын

@@motoxjosh29 it is still in delivery my bad 😅 i'll tell you when it arrives, next monday i think

@justaamateur6533 Жыл бұрын

Hb generally have better qc than subzero, woud reccomend swapping out the crap tuners when you get it

@14ohms Жыл бұрын

@@justaamateur6533 yeah that's what i'm gonna do. I have some plus à hipshot bridge. Maybe i'll swap the p90 for a single humbucker from hapas guitar but i wanna try them before

@justaamateur6533 Жыл бұрын

@@14ohms Awesome! Im considering on getting one but the all black look really doesnt bite me, im hoping hb will add some more colours like in their 62 lines

@Not_Andrew_Huberman Жыл бұрын

The loathe caster? Not the loathe master?

@johnnyhickey1312 6 ай бұрын

Lmao I was thinking the same thing

@duschendestroyer Жыл бұрын

"I put thin strings on it and for some unknown reason I can't get a low tuning" :D

@Seven7Pain1 11 ай бұрын

Its not a baritone its a bass 6 i bet tuning is EADGBE whole step down though not BEADF#B more than 28" scale its a BASS VI

@escapegulag4317 8 ай бұрын

14:27 its a longer neck so obviously it sounds darker. Apart from that the wood hs no effect on the sound as soon as you plug the guitar in. so thats nothing but a brainfart there bud. Currently running this guitar on Drope E with 14-68 strings and it sounds good. No worse or better than other guitars. Intonation is more than decent. Muddiness comes from a) strings that are to thick or cheap bass strings which sound even duller than dead guitar strings. b) pickups height set too high c) bad preset building

@CountSpatula666 5 ай бұрын

Great video, but I want to hit this from a different perspective. This is a short scale six string bass and not really a guitar. While I will not be one to tell someone that you can't do something the bass vi was not meant to be a guitar and played like one. The history of the bass vi, from my understanding, was to accompany the upright bass and help it stand out of the mix. I think if you look at it like that then this thing might make more sense. However, this is a great deal on a bass vi if you've ever wanted to try one out. Get one and have fun with it! Never hurts to try something new...might be your next gig.

@kevin-sr41p 11 ай бұрын

If u want to get rid of it let me know

@TheCrumpers53 Жыл бұрын

This is not a baritone guitar. It's a bass 6. It's not a regular guitar it's a hybrid. You need to approach it differently than a regular tuned guitar. Chugging isn't the same. You need to play differently. It's nothing like a 8 string or other baritones.