How Much Freedom Do You Really Need In New World

[@TheCoreGameplay]

This took 3 days to test and figure out. Great job on putting everything together and working out the numbers 👍

[@FusionThunder]

Never again haha

[@TheCoreGameplay]

@@FusionThunder welcome to hell😂

[@Samarine]

+1 subscribe

[@PoleVault]

One of your best videos yet. Would love to know more about penetrating armor perks and how much damage they do compared to similar perks such as vorpal and rogue

[@lmcgnlztable]

Oh man, the moment i saw that light medium heavy with x number of freedom comparison, i told myself that i must type something in the comment and show huuuuuuuge respect. Thanks for the amazing content. You da best! (subscribed!)

[@FusionThunder]

Oh wow! Thank you for such a heart warming comment

[@FinchFinley]

Thanks for testing man, great way to show difference and results. Keep such awesome testing up!

[@MrYdoineedthis]

thoughtful and detailed. appreciate the recommendation and explanation for how many pieces are needed at each equip load.

[@FusionThunder]

Glad it was helpful!

[@viniciusribeiro5625]

Nice job like always bro. Can you test the new crit chance? And if worth use keen? Ty

[@DethVideos]

Hey sweet video man, glad I checked out your channel. Good content, Subbed.

[@FusionThunder]

Ty man love your content as well!

[@Jota_505]

ure actually insane, been following your nw content since before release where you listed perks and stuff, great work as always man, keep it up, the community loves you ♥

[@m4leficent-492]

Same as always top tire videos , good job to you and your brother

[@LordGank1]

New subscriber here thanks for your work I really enjoyed your last couple videos. I’m on the hunt for this kind of information as I sort out what I want to wear this patch. Cheers!

[@FusionThunder]

Welcome aboard!

[@UlfhednarTV]

Awesome work brothers! Appreciate it and thanks for the info

[@Drakoviche]

You're doing God's work here FusionThunder keep up the good work

[@MarcosPic1982]

You do good videos. Could you do one to compare fortification in all armor types in ptr and live servers?

[@hansmeier1548]

Thx for your great Work!! 👍👍 I have a question, whats the difference between physical Aversion and a Thrust Gem?

[@rikmik3046]

Bows or muskets if they're not running any elemental damage. Trust gems are just that thrust protection, so this included bows, muskets , Spears and rapier if they're not running elemental buffs/damage.

[@hansmeier1548]

​@@rikmik3046 but why should I take 3.9% over 5% or is this more a additional protection like 5Thrust Gems 25% and 19% ..... Hmm k I understand .... Thank you

[@XxkirobossxX]

Thanks for the vid, just mase a medium bruiser that has 3 freedoms on it and I was debating for 4-5. I'll see how it plays and I might bump it up.

[@Zamn-NW]

So this is not a sign of diminishing returns. Your final results, with all weight classes, actually show that freedom gets better the more you have of it according to your results. 1 Freedom in Light is 8.89% so having 5 should equate to 44.45% but your results show 45.93%. The reason for this is because your testing is waiting too long to stop the timer. You're waiting for the food buff to move to the right but you should be stopping the timer as soon as the stun buff BEGINS to fade away. You're adding around .13 seconds with each test. Looking at the 5 freedom test in light and going frame by frame waiting for the stun buff to BEGIN to fade away, you can see that the timer is exactly 1 second which is equal to 50% freedom. Another sign of the test running too long is when he tests ZERO freedom in light, you can see him stop the timer at 2.15 seconds on a 2 second stun.

[@FusionThunder]

If the buff takes the same amount of time to move on all tests isn't it all relevant? All test has been done in the exact same manner. We don't base the results of reading the description of the freedom. We base it on calculationing the time being reduced giving us percentages. Meaning it takes the same amount of time for the buff to move left or right on all tests resulting in the test being releavent to all results

[@Zamn-NW]

@@FusionThunder You'll find that the time reduced is the exact same as the description of freedom if you stop the timer correctly. Again, you can see from the begining that it's not being stopped correctly because the 2 second stun lasted 2.15 seconds on your first test in light and zero freedom. The 2 second stun should last exactly 2.00 seconds which means your timer is incorrect. The food buff moving at the same time on all tests only means that all your tests are equally inacurate. But I only point this out because you say there are diminishing returns but infact there are not. The freedom description is infact accurate and freedom is working correctly. The only thing im not sure of is if freedom has a cap which it seems to be at 60%

[@Nyce-Gaming]

Solid info 🤝🏽

[@z543]

Damn ty for these results top tier testing video n quality

[@jokeraz7545]

Solid video as always, thank you for your hard work on these

[@adamscott2391]

Sounds like the perk is multiplicative, which explains the dismisnishing returns. Each perk after the first is reducing a smaller smaller amount of time

[@Zamn-NW]

So this is not a sign of diminishing returns. Your final results, with all weight classes, actually show that freedom gets better the more you have of it according to your results. 1 Freedom in Light is 8.89% so having 5 should equate to 44.45% but your results show 45.93%. The reason for this is because your testing is waiting too long to stop the timer. You're waiting for the food buff to move to the right but you should be stopping the timer as soon as the stun buff BEGINS to fade away. You're adding around .13 seconds with each test. Looking at the 5 freedom test in light and going frame by frame waiting for the stun buff to BEGIN to fade away, you can see that the timer is exactly 1 second which is equal to 50% freedom.

[@OLLIE360ification]

thanks man :D Another video idea, could you test if you should run Elemental Aversion or Shirking Fortification on medium in the new patch? I think many people will go elemental split damage gems for melee weapons if the meta build is full onyx + elemental aversion, this has been missed/ not tested along with important damage sources like DOTs, abilities like Spike and Blade, it feels like Shirking Fort would cover these damage sources better. Light players will be forced to play elemental aversion + onyx, therefore they will be only reducing 10% of the damage from melee players who run elemental gems on their weapons. Maybe that would lead into a video on conversion gems on melee + runeglass on weapons/ armour + elemental damage on ring vs the 3 different armour weights + elemental aversion vs. shirking heheh

[@Altarknight]

thx for info! i know is take alot to test somthing good ! i'm testing " pala build " like 4 days , So GOOD JOB guys! also I would like to ask if u have time to test Conditional ( fire & ice ) if is can stuck whit ele aversion , and if is stack whit gems too is there cap ? i heard ( thx to you vidoe many ppl will Not use Ele Aversion coz not protect for all ele damage ) !

[@nefariousnw5966]

Great video, thx.

[@FuryOfTyphon]

AGS should just hire you and your bro at this point... Busy doing there job for them.

[@jjlm7345]

Fushion does the dirty work so we don't have to :) TY TY TY

[@Surxe]

There is a 250ms delay from when the duration ends to when the food buff moves

[@xxCross2]

Good work, and thank you for investigating these things for us. 😅

[@digitoss5637]

Have you compred the Freedom duration on Live vs PTR? Is it still 8.89 on Live? This is my theory. It may be caluclated as 11%, similar to how Ele aversion works. In heavy you get 20% bonus freedom. 20% from 11% = 8.8%, very similar to your result. So yes probably spahetti maths going on

[@cragor]

I don't think freedom itself is bugged. There is something that extends the stun over 2 seconds. I have no idea what causes this but previousle when freedom has been tested, it has only counted towards the base CC duration. But even in your tests you can see that the stun duration with light and no freedom is 2,15 seconds but the stun duration should be only 2 seconds. I think freedom only reduces the 2 seconds of the stun which makes the total cc reduction smaller than on tooltips.

[@lipejtoja]

so i have one question. Because this is therory, but did you tried it in real combo? Warhammer combo against Light with 2,3 or 4 freedoms?

[@electrified0]

One thing that raises my eyebrow is that your baseline does not match the tooltip. Shockwave is a 2 second stun, but your light armor no freedom receives a 2.15 second stun. This could mean a lot of things, but it appears that there is 0.15 seconds extra being added onto that stun. What happens if you control for this by subtracting 0.15 seconds from all results? I'm curious if that "extra" stun duration is not factored into freedom. It's entirely possible that the extra 0.15 seconds is entirely a visual bug and is messing with your data. Would also be interesting to do the baseline test on other forms of CC in the game to confirm if that's across all CC or just shockwave.

[@McDudes]

how are AGS math still wrong after 2years?

[@McDudes]

why don't you just run the game in 60fps and record at 60fps on a 60fps timeline (on your editing software) and then export it in 60fps?

[@kashman4251]

You do great work but AGS botches every single thing in this game. Its up to content creators like you that ACTUALY test the game, unlike the devs.

[@gamezonereactions8388]

Month Avg. Players Gain % Gain Peak Players Last 30 Days 15,951.7 -3,121.5 -16.37% 25,320

[@JesterJack]

This is just my opinion, but there's no way I'm giving up weapon perks on armor for freedom. Freedom is like the last thing on my list of importance. I would much rather have my weapon perks over freedom. I can only fit 2 freedom in my build. If your weapon perks for your setup aren't good, then yes I would go freedom. Again, just my personal opinion for atleast my build.

[@electrified0]

Armor has 3 slots, so presumably you're prioritizing something else above weapon perks. It can be worth dropping defensive perks like ele aversion for freedom since being able to break CC and will mitigate far more than aversion ever will.

[@JesterJack]

@@electrified0 That's why I mentioned it has everything to do with the build. I'm grateful for the work that was done though. I was curious about it.

[@cragor]

How is your timer working? why is the timer moving from 59 milliseconds to 1 second? There should be 100 milliseconds before the seconds increase. The seconds probably are correct but the way you display the milliseconds is wrong. 60 milliseconds != 1 second.

[@FusionThunder]

The time shows frames so every 60 frames is 1 second. I rendered it at 60 fps for youtube. So when you do your calculations you just multiply your seconds with 60 plus whatever is left to find the total amount of frames per clip. Knowing the amount of frames you can start calculating the different percentages. So everything builds on one another. 😅 It's a lot of work to do, even just doing the math behind the video

[@cragor]

@@FusionThunder Okay, thanks for the explanation. This makes sense.

[@cragor]

@@FusionThunder But I do think the reason why freedom is lower is because the stun lasts for 2 seconds and 15 frames. Something hidden seems to extend the stun duration. The numbers would make sense if freedom only applied to the base stun duration of 2 seconds. Does this hidden increase in stuns affect all stuns or just shockwave?

[@FusionThunder]

@@cragor It might just be server latency, monitor latency or who knows what else that can affect those extra frames. I really don't know. That's why I test everything so everything can be consistent with one another and I don't have to rely on the game telling me how long a stun is. I can rely on my tests to show me how long a stun is and after that I can start my calculations. - That being said I've also tested shield bash and it also has some extra frames added to the duration. I think it was 12 or so extra frames

[@MarcosPic1982]

Do you know that heavy armor users rely a lot in stun due the lack of mobility or damage right? I know you don't like stuns and i would understand if you complain about light armor users and not heavy. I think heavy armor builds will practically disappear since the gap with light and the short time of the stuns on players since everyone has freedom today day. As a heavy armor user I can barely land a stun and a half charged heavy attack.

[@FusionThunder]

I only play heavy myself

[@MarcosPic1982]

​@@FusionThunder but do you do pvp or pve with heavy? Which build do you play

[@ArjKm]

Every little thing in this game is bugged and broken. People like you are doing God's work to show people under the hood. I enjoyed this game for a few months on release. but thats it for me. This game needs a massive mega omega ultra over 9000 amount of fixes and reworks to even begin to be in a balanced state for pvp. Devs have no clue and so does most of the playerbase whats actually going on in the game lol

[@Ax-xN]

Things would be easier if they added a detailed stats page on the character tab or a new tab like other mmos like how much out crit chance is that's so helpful in other games why don't they add that shit they have like this small amount of information at bottom of the screen which tells us nothing

[@bellgrand]

I think your numbers are off. You probably used an HH:MM format instead of milliseconds. The actual results still show Freedom is messed up, but they are slightly different.

[@hanswurst1125]

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