How Much Home Can You Actually Afford in Canada?

[@VitalySidorok]

You forgot about FHSA

[@MakeThatChange]

thanks for highlighting that 🚀

[@User12345fan]

@@VitalySidorok FHSA loans? That’s in the US.

[@MakeThatChange]

First home savings account. It’s a new account type introduced earlier this year. It’s a hybrid of TFSA and RRSP.

[@AlexKasper]

FHSA, too little too late.

[@matts0717]

I know, I was shocked that TFSA and RRSP was mentioned for savings but not the FHSA, the one deliberately setup to buy a home

[@TruthFile-c2y]

Great Info! Thanks!

[@MakeThatChange]

🙌

[@isaiahsmith8523]

Great video! Well done 👏🏾

[@MakeThatChange]

Thanks for watching

[@sjwwmmprabodhanaweeraseker332]

Excellent !

[@JeffWilliamfick]

Living in Oshawa here and the housing market here over the last 7-8 years is unlike anything I’ve ever seen. Homes that were bought for $130K in 2015 are now being sold for $590k. I’m talking about tiny, disgusting, poorly built 950 square foot shit boxes in quite mediocre neighborhoods. Then you’ve got Better, average sized homes in nicer neighborhoods that were $300K+ 10 years ago selling for $750k+ now. Wild times.

[@EdwinBoettcher]

Purchase (2) modest investment rentals. (I own 4.) It is a part-time hands-on business and a ticket to a comfortable retirement if you are willing to deal with the headaches. I buy clean low-mileage cars in cash and I carry no balance on credit cards. I "retired" 10 years ago and my portfolio is worth more now (inflation considered). I will not outlive my resources if I live to be 100.

[@LSnew1224]

Canada has become so expensive to live in. Its not worth coming here. The term they use for the lack of jobs is competitive. Even experienced workforce can't get an interview right away. You might get 2 or 3 interviews a month if you are lucky. Until then what do people do? Do minimum wage jobs, oh wait now Tims, starbucks, walmart get people in through referrals, so thats also impossible applying online. Go to downtown Toronto and all the crazies and the druggies are out. Buying a house is the last thing on anyones mind right now 😅

[@seanothepop4638]

I was making 37 an hour when I looked in the mirror and faced that if I continued in Toronto I (and two pets) would be homeless. I moved to a smaller city where family and friends are. There are no jobs nowhere. None. Negative gain jobs. People saying there's jobs and no one wants them, are bad people on the inside, judge them and then avoid them, complete stranger danger. I did find work here, so that's good, great actually, even at minimum wage. But I know my future, as you've said, and that of anyone in Canada, is fucked. It realllly is.

[@chinonsomichael9839]

Everyone is shouting Canada is expensive,but is cheaper to stay in Toronto than in London Amsterdam Copenhagen Zurich new York, California Dublin, Edinburg, Singapore

[@MakeThatChange]

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[@jwlafferty]

But then you still have to live in Toronto, and not those other cities.

[@ByronVersion2]

Is Toronto Cheaper than Vancouver and other big cities in BC, Canada ❓

[@infernozeronityclan5850]

​@@ByronVersion2google it

[@TanTho-h2p]

2 wrongs don't make a right

[@gingi453]

Good summary, but it has many other dimensions than just affordability. Cavity wood frame homes are unsafe, can burn and could be blown away by high wind, so one needs a good insurance too, and renovate it regularly to avoid the mold infect the indoor, if the paint/vapor barriers start cracking etc. I would also offer a review of the step by step process how to move into the starting home, use first time home buyer credit etc, and move on later..as ell as the security of an own apartment relative to a rental..or wood frame home..as well how a home costs can be reduced by finishing a basement and renting it out..and energy bills? Lots to talk about..

[@User12345fan]

I would never want to buy a house in Canada. I bought my home in Houston, major city, for 42k(with tax and fees) in Houston Texas, in a central location in 2019. 42k was the total purchase price.

[@MakeThatChange]

these are the magical numbers we will never see again in the developed world. Congrats!

[@User12345fan]

@@MakeThatChange Yes, but Canada is on the most expensive side in the developed world too. Really, I commend Canadians like you that have made it possible for them. I could never.

[@seanothepop4638]

Don't buy a house in Canada. Practice self care.

[@murraytown4]

But Houston is in Texas.

[@ByronVersion2]

Never Say NEVER 😎 Justin Bieber

[@noseboop4354]

That two out of three canadians are homeowners stat is misleading. If you live in your parent's house rent free, Statistics Canada will count you as a 'homeowner' even though you don't actually own a home. Same if you live in your brother's or cousin's home.

[@MakeThatChange]

That’s not a bad thing, you’re likely going to inherit that property when they die or inherit the capital gain from the sale. That’s generational wealth. Such individuals have an overall lower motivation to buy a home or have greater opportunity to save on their own, since their future is partially funded by the parents wealth. Census also accounts for scenarios “living in parents house or cousin’s basement” and specifies by asking additional questions eg mortgage payments, dweller’s relationships and household size. For instance, average household size in Canada is 2.5, assuming that there are typically between 2 and 3 ppl living in households. There are obviously inaccuracies given how the survey is conducted.

[@pacoflores5059]

Great Information!! Thank you.

[@MakeThatChange]

Glad it was helpful!

[@pjell]

You have just described, very well, how out of reach buying a home is for the vast majority of people.

[@funtimes7305]

Great info. Only if Canadian government encourages building more houses, this will get easier. We have so much land. Yet not enough houses

[@Johnny.Reb13]

do you know what the cost of even building a garden shed is in Canada?

[@Saturn7747]

The cost is too high now, builders can't make money if they build so they stop doing so.

[@funtimes7305]

@@Saturn7747 buying also expensive.

[@Saturn7747]

@@funtimes7305 so that's why builders stop building, since they KNOW people can't afford what they build, even if they build crap and make little money

[@vinderdosanjh1606]

if you make $100,000 yr income just purchase 300k to 350k apartment outside city lol. so you got more money to invest and play with ...

[@MakeThatChange]

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[@Axiasart]

And they telling me renting is more expensive than buying a house

[@MakeThatChange]

Depends on your financial situation. Make sure to play with the NYT calculator we shared to see what's best for you.

[@gregchoi584]

Is there a reason why you used average income rather than a median income in the video?

[@MakeThatChange]

Knew this question would come up! Average income number was more recent than median income which was updated in 2021.

[@Droxal]

So, if the average salary is, let say $70,000 in Canada's most expensive cities, then most COUPLES shouldn't buy a condo worth more than $420,000. And most single people shouldn't buy a condo worth more than $210,000. Which is to say that Canada's real estate is way over valued. Interesting.

[@MakeThatChange]

yup larger savings and a min 100-130k salary for a couple is the way to go if you want to buy a home. Alternatively, most Canadians are lucky to simply inherit real estate from their wealthy boomer population.

[@raulsardinas2584]

yep, my wife and I make over 320K combined and are about to follow this very conservative 30-30-3 rule, but 95%+ of people buying homes for the first time today can't follow it. People can't understand that we don't want to spend more than 950K on a house, when some people making 200K are buying 1M+ houses.

[@elai3147]

expensive, not over valued, because the canadian dollar is becoming worthless

[@Sominadi]

We shouldn't be paying more than $2000/month and we're renting for $2900 because we have no choice. And I don't understand why you all act as if the mortgage, taxes, garbage, maintenance and renovation costs aren't included in the rent? When you rent out a house, of course all these costs are included in the rent, otherwise there's no point in any landlord having a second home to rent if you have $800-1200/month to pay on top of your personal home loan

[@MakeThatChange]

It’s included, you just don’t have to think about it as a renter

[@gentlegiants1974]

In other words most of us will never own real estate...

[@MakeThatChange]

Not at all! Just make a goal, save, and be smart with your finances. The barrier for entry has raised, so you can’t keep doing what everybody did for the last 20 years; adjust your approach.

[@Saturn7747]

You definitely can, just not so easy to own a house in Toronto or Vancouver. Buying a condo in Calgary is still quite easy.

[@KevinLaswisis]

There is a place most people over look a little city. called Regina SK most likely the cheapest place in Canada right now for rent & buying homes

[@MakeThatChange]

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[@gonchicab21]

why 32% of gross income and not 32% of after tax income ?????

[@MakeThatChange]

Net (after tax) is more likely to fluctuate, and therefore more unpredictable to anchor to. Your net can be impacted by different voluntarily and non voluntarily deductions, as well as tax returns and deductions. When they look at gross, they already assume your basic income tax.

[@whatdoyouwantfromme1029]

Canada has always been unaffordable. " not becoming "👈

[@seanothepop4638]

Yeah I'm closing in on 60 and I know I won't ever be able to retire and will mostly get part time minimum wage contract work for the rest of my life. Tentatively. Canada has never really been prolific. Maybe a month or year but then a slew of negatives to punish us for that. And we cope by pretending to be so fucking austeric and judging the less fortunate as we "suffer" when we're just a bit less poor lol. And that's a good situation I'm in. Most Canadians are even more fucked, and such actions that come from that will erupt beyond any general control the government thinks it has on it's populace. It's always a surprise, historically.

[@Ваня-н4ь]

I never buy this paper house and pay all your live this fake

[@MakeThatChange]

Sounds like a plan you’re happy with!