How Much Lithium Can I get From a Lithium - Ion Battery?

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Thoisoi2 - Chemical Experiments!

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@laboratoryofliptakov8157
@laboratoryofliptakov8157 3 жыл бұрын
In 20 minutes I know more about the chemical composition than in 2 days of searching anywhere else. One of the most useful videos for researchers. Hat off and subscribed.
@StorryGamesRo
@StorryGamesRo 3 жыл бұрын
How did you learn? This need a subtitle!
@darthlogicus
@darthlogicus 2 жыл бұрын
@@StorryGamesRo I personally found that I had no problem understanding his accent. His accent reminds of the stereotypical "mad scientist" shtick. Delightfully so, because of its pairing with his channel content. Lol Besides this guy has an amazing knack for simplifying the subject matter. Genius is simplifying the complex. Out of curiosity, what elements of his speech did you find made it hard to follow?
@bariumselenided5152
@bariumselenided5152 2 жыл бұрын
@@StorryGamesRo skill issue
@prapanthebachelorette6803
@prapanthebachelorette6803 Жыл бұрын
@@darthlogicus agree 😂
@bojohannesen4352
@bojohannesen4352 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you need to work on your research skills?
@mohamedahamedazain7076
@mohamedahamedazain7076 3 жыл бұрын
The first time that I have seen recycling method for lithium ,good done o'man
@maverick9708
@maverick9708 3 жыл бұрын
fun fact: lead/sulfuric acid batteries are arguably the most recycled items by consumption. everything except some of the paper linings can get reprocessed and made into new ones and the practice is so robust that almost every battery you find in places like america are made from some recycled batteries
@makarandrikibe3136
@makarandrikibe3136 2 жыл бұрын
Genius
@SolRC
@SolRC 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a company name? I am interested in the mass recycling of batteries. I would love to see a facility that only does battery reuse.
@maverick9708
@maverick9708 2 жыл бұрын
@@SolRC EnerSys, Panasonic, Exide Industries, Teledyne Technologies would be some of the larger companies that participate in lead-acid battery processing
@himanshusingh5214
@himanshusingh5214 2 жыл бұрын
Just like water.
@KLove89
@KLove89 2 жыл бұрын
Sssssssssssssss. That's what I call a response he wasn't expecting or wanting to hear. Lol. Love it
@thesunexpress
@thesunexpress 3 жыл бұрын
There's no doubt going to be major disasters at future car scrap-yards (~5 to 10 years) when the battery packs aren't handled properly.
@aspjake123
@aspjake123 2 жыл бұрын
This right here. A true environmental disaster awaits us.
@technovikingfan
@technovikingfan Жыл бұрын
That's a really good point....very true and scary.
@vorpalinferno9711
@vorpalinferno9711 Жыл бұрын
Someone smart will come up with a scalable Lithium ion battery recycling process in the near future.
@JJSmith1100
@JJSmith1100 Жыл бұрын
@@vorpalinferno9711 factories recycling these batterie already exist. The more batteries become available the more recycling factories will come.
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 10 ай бұрын
These are as bad as spent nuclear waste. They auto-ignite, unless buried deep into the earth.
@Nick-co9pf
@Nick-co9pf 3 жыл бұрын
HOLY SHIT I was not expecting that voice when he swooped around with the scooter.
@DigitalIP
@DigitalIP 3 жыл бұрын
lol agreed
@TristanVash38
@TristanVash38 3 жыл бұрын
Funny you say that. I got caught up by his voice too when he swooped in. I clicked this video before realizing it was a Thoisoi video.
@paulcoffey359
@paulcoffey359 3 жыл бұрын
Struth!
@M1551NGN0
@M1551NGN0 3 жыл бұрын
Only if you never saw his other videos
@ramdas363
@ramdas363 6 ай бұрын
What accent is that? I know it's European but can't exactly place it for some reason.
@vincentmarzion3183
@vincentmarzion3183 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first video I've found on this topic with sound chemistry and decent results with a real yield. Thank you for documenting your process and translating it to English, much appreciated.
@randaranatunga7259
@randaranatunga7259 3 жыл бұрын
If that intro wasn’t smooth, I don’t know what is
@LouiesLog
@LouiesLog 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen anything that cool for years. All it was missing was flame stickers and explosion.
@samsungtelevision695
@samsungtelevision695 3 жыл бұрын
Came to express similar sentiments. Dude is king of cool in my mind.
@youtube.commentator
@youtube.commentator 3 жыл бұрын
Eating a bunch of peanut butter the night before
@khunagnes1364
@khunagnes1364 3 жыл бұрын
I just love thio's voice, his facial expressions and simplicity when it comes to making a video.
@j_sum1
@j_sum1 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of your best videos yet. Thanks. And I enjoyed it because I am in the middle of a project doing exactly the same thing. Those cylindrical batteries are really tough!
@mikekokomomike
@mikekokomomike 3 жыл бұрын
So after all that, the commercial recycling of lithium batteries is actually just melting them into an alloy used for what other purposes? Does not sound too green to me unless I missed something.
@raxorlp9932
@raxorlp9932 3 жыл бұрын
its only green as long as its working, before and after its the biggest bullshit
@terryboyer1342
@terryboyer1342 3 жыл бұрын
@Andrynor Ω Most of the components of "green" wind turbines are not recycleable and will end in landfills. I suspect the same is true of solar cells. This "green clean" narrative is mainly BS. But the uninformed buy into it and feel good about themselves.
@Games_and_Music
@Games_and_Music 3 жыл бұрын
@Andrynor Ω it is pretty frustrating yeah, just today i was watching Real Time with Bill Maher, he had a guest on that said, unfortunately because of a handful of nuclear accidents, people mistakenly think that nuclear energy is less safe than coal. Coal is polluting us every day with every breath we take, but because it doesn't create headlines of terrible disasters, people don't realize it as the killer that it is, it kills more people very year than covid has so far. I mean, that in itself is not a shocking revelation, we all kinda knew this, but what i find frustrating is that Bill doesn't jump in on the nuclear, there was no response, he only wanted to hear about coal killing more than covid, but it does not seem that he is for nuclear energy. Nuclear energy is like airplanes, if one or two go down, people get scared and will avoid it like the plague, but the actual plague, eh, who cares.
@PunishedFelix
@PunishedFelix 3 жыл бұрын
I think the reason why people are so scared of nuclear is because we as citizens don't control energy production and "green" energy is a nice-sounding alternative. With something as potentially destructive as uranium/plutonium reactors its easy to see why people are scared. This was pretty apparent when the public learned that thorium could be used in reactors.
@PunishedFelix
@PunishedFelix 3 жыл бұрын
@Andrynor Ω I don't think the environmentalists are the real problem. They're just a demographic. The real problem are the people selling it to them.
@woahdudecalmdown
@woahdudecalmdown 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you back!!
@Burnt_Gerbil
@Burnt_Gerbil 3 жыл бұрын
He never left! 😛
@izzieb
@izzieb 3 жыл бұрын
A video with an important question posed the beginning. With many governments pushing for a full switch to EVs, it's important to ask what can be done with the e-waste they will create. That's ignoring issues with the availability of raw materials and emissions produced from their production.
@Catsincages
@Catsincages 3 жыл бұрын
🤦🏻‍♀️ EV's are only being pushed upon us because politicians are universally corrupt and green tech is big, big money. Green initiatives/technology exist for the sole purpose of making money and the 'green' phenomena has nothing do with 'saving the planet' and never has. Oh and E-waste recycling is a total lie, so don't expect anyone to do anything about it other than sweep it under the carpet for as many decades as can be got away with. 😹
@MrBrelindm
@MrBrelindm 3 жыл бұрын
I think this video proves there is no such thing as a circular economy.
@themidrangeplayer8518
@themidrangeplayer8518 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrBrelindm huh really
@raxorlp9932
@raxorlp9932 3 жыл бұрын
@@Catsincages totaly aggree
@giovannifoulmouth7205
@giovannifoulmouth7205 3 жыл бұрын
E-waste is a resource. All those batteries contain highly refined metals of known concentrations that are much easier to extract than from minerals. Basically baterries are like high grade ore.
@Singleraxis
@Singleraxis 3 жыл бұрын
Your professionalism has changed so much over the years I've watched you, really enjoyed this video!
@excitedbox5705
@excitedbox5705 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you gave the link for the paper you used. We need more videos like this.
@RJDA.Dakota
@RJDA.Dakota 3 жыл бұрын
Actually acting more like a big electrolytic capacitors- a slow leak capacitor. I love your channel and learn an amazing amount from your channel and videos. Absolutely wonderful‼️
@Scrizati
@Scrizati 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent and interesting video with some really relevant topics today!
@HarrySinanian
@HarrySinanian 3 жыл бұрын
That was an awesome insight into the potential future and risks with EV ideals. Messy business, thank you for sharing.
@eduardojud56
@eduardojud56 3 жыл бұрын
Is those polymeric separation membranes could be used as semi permeable membranes for electrolysis?
@Buzzhumma
@Buzzhumma 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about that yesterday but they have holes only small enough for lithium ions which are very small but hydrogen will still get through i think . Amazing material engineering in it self !
@seditt5146
@seditt5146 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure why one wouldnt use Ceramic for semi permeable membranes. The work great and mixing is minimal at best and can be all but mitigated with the most minor effort of loading the membrane first in which you basically pump it full of the ions you expect to come from the cell so what you get is ion migration but no actual mixing of the two fluids.
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 3 жыл бұрын
@@seditt5146 ceramic is only usable for some processes and can be degraded by others. Partially dechlorinated PVC is generally superior, and also not too hard to make.
@psycronizer
@psycronizer 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have used the plastic film membranes out of larger lithium polymer battery's for remote control toys , planes etc. I took a plastic vessel and cut a square hole in it, about 15 square centimeters and then sealed the hole with a sheet of the battery separator, I used silicone glue to hold it over the square hole, with about a centimeter of overlap between the vessel plastic and the separator, so it was basically like a sealed window. The rest is fairly obvious. The plastic separator material is just like ordinary plastic, fairly tough stuff, not at all fragile. Some cautions though, I found that pushing more than around 6 amps across can weaken it to the point it leaks from tiny pores forming in it, heat is an issue, an active cooling system is needed when pushing high current.
@psycronizer
@psycronizer 3 жыл бұрын
@@seditt5146 Porcelain is made especially for that purpose, Haldenwanger Porcelain I think.
@kentadran
@kentadran 3 жыл бұрын
Glad internet was made and people like Thoisoi is sharing free knowledge for people
@ZoonCrypticon
@ZoonCrypticon 2 жыл бұрын
Could you have taken a different approach @11:11 ? Instead of using NaOH you could have started with HCl(aq) to transfer the different ions (Al3+, Li+, Co2+) into solution and, after vacuum filtering, let them cristalyze. Lithium chloride has a solubility of around 80 g/l , whereas cobalt(II)chloride of 529 g/l , aluminium chloride of 458 g/l each at 20°C. So you could filter lithium chloride out quite well, before the others start to cristallyze.
@thomasmoore4576
@thomasmoore4576 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent recycling it's got to be scaled up to recycle all the new batteries that is being manufactured so it doesn't go in the landfill and reused material for new batteries
@ChadDidNothingWrong
@ChadDidNothingWrong 3 жыл бұрын
Recycling burns oil
@thomasmoore4576
@thomasmoore4576 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChadDidNothingWrong doesn't have to you can burn methane you can burn hydrogen you can use Renewables wind solar why does it have to burn oil that can pump that back down in the ground where they got it from
@thomasmoore4576
@thomasmoore4576 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChadDidNothingWrong and stop cutting so many trees were running low on O2 if you pull up a satellite picture of the u.s. from 1960 to 2021 and look at how Brown it got instead of being green
@thomasmoore4576
@thomasmoore4576 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChadDidNothingWrong if it keeps going the way it's going we're all going to have to wear space suits to breathe Outdoors from all the ozone building up
@Markle2k
@Markle2k 3 жыл бұрын
The methods and the beginnings of the infrastructure are set up for Li-Ion recycling, but car batteries have proven to be much longer lived than manufacturers expected since they are much better managed than laptop and phone batteries. And then they have a second life as stationary storage.
@cmonkey63
@cmonkey63 3 жыл бұрын
And just yesterday I was wondering how to recover the lithium from these batteries. Given the chemicals, energy, and time required it hardly seems worth it for a few grams of metal. Which is why I expect them all to become landfill for the foreseeable future.
@ameunier41
@ameunier41 3 жыл бұрын
Sometime I don't understand the trend for big electric cars, when something like a closed golf car could be a lot more ecological and make more sense for small everyday travel. I've seen video of such a car sold by Chinese for 600$.
@Buzzhumma
@Buzzhumma 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I have a feeling a punch is used to push the jellroll out after both ends are cut off on a auto bandsaw that is sprayed with cooland to prevent thermal runaway ! A big conveyor belt is full of cells getting the top and bottom cut !
@dreamoftranscendence4415
@dreamoftranscendence4415 10 ай бұрын
What if we just ground off the edge of both top & bottom cylinder faces to keep insides fully intact?
@no36963
@no36963 2 жыл бұрын
Lithium recycling should be on every researcher's mind, at least in the background, where some great innovations have occurred.
@karloscuric4457
@karloscuric4457 3 жыл бұрын
As somebody who is dealing daily with Li-Ion batteries, you are very brave to dismantle them like this. There could be a fire easily. On the other hand, love the research.
@rogerwilco8146
@rogerwilco8146 3 жыл бұрын
I think the insulation was as if new. I do get freaked out a few times at how he treats those 18650s!
@billwilliams9023
@billwilliams9023 3 жыл бұрын
@@rogerwilco8146 If the batteries are fully discharged there is no fire risk
@chris.asi_romeo
@chris.asi_romeo 2 жыл бұрын
One of the very few Channels I enjoyed watching. 👏👏
@Triliton
@Triliton 3 жыл бұрын
Good work! That took somewhat process i didnt know. Your videos are the besT! :)
@jaqueitch
@jaqueitch 3 жыл бұрын
I love your channel! I am a Chemical Engineering by education and really enjoy your content
@tophertrimmer5841
@tophertrimmer5841 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the hard work you put into this video. It’s a topic I have always been interested in and it’s very important for our future.
@4.0.4
@4.0.4 3 жыл бұрын
John B. Goodenough did not want to just be good enough, his batteries are still the best we have!
@masterplayer5982
@masterplayer5982 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when I took apart a charged lithium ion battery the anode (copper sheet) was getting warm to the touch indicating that there was lithium in the graphite. It was oxidising in air.
@shahramarya6417
@shahramarya6417 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for the formula of the lithium battery, but I did not find it, now you have discovered the secret of this phenomenon, thank you very much and great channel😍❤
@DonnyHooterHoot
@DonnyHooterHoot 3 жыл бұрын
It was cool to see you as a "regular" dude at the beginning! Great Video!
@himarei
@himarei 3 жыл бұрын
Someone should make a cell casing that is (relatively) easy to open and reuse. It would make the recycling process much more feasible at scale.
@glashio
@glashio 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, so learnful. I hope they will find a more effecient way to recycle our batteries :)
@psycronizer
@psycronizer 3 жыл бұрын
you have invented a new word ! learnful ! nice...
@johnmcclain3887
@johnmcclain3887 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an interesting breakdown of these modern lithium-ion batteries. I found it well presented and accurate.
@davidbwa
@davidbwa 2 жыл бұрын
I do not understand all of the chemistry but I enjoy watching you do it.
@xiaoshen194
@xiaoshen194 3 жыл бұрын
*Purification of metals exists* Conc. H2SO4: Did someone just call me???
@NeverTalkToCops1
@NeverTalkToCops1 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, for your next project, separate PU239 from spent uranium fuel rods.
@mikeconnery4652
@mikeconnery4652 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@bonbonpony
@bonbonpony 2 жыл бұрын
18:50 Did you verify that this white powder in fact contains lithium? (e.g. with a flame test or something)
@CLEATUS_MCGILLICUDDY
@CLEATUS_MCGILLICUDDY 2 жыл бұрын
oh man that accent! i've been trying to master it for like 2 years and still can't even come close i love it it's hilarious!!! especially with the terrible dubbing mixed with great content. you nailed it, bravo dude. my hats off to you sir!
@prakhardubey2901
@prakhardubey2901 2 жыл бұрын
Best video i found for my research purpose 🙂, congrats bro you got new subscriber!!
@tootalldan5702
@tootalldan5702 3 жыл бұрын
Great show. This reminds me the 1950s lead acid batteries and a removable top and you could unbolt a cell then replace it. Not as light but a lot more servicable.
@CookingWithCows
@CookingWithCows 3 жыл бұрын
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@marcelgaddis9319
@marcelgaddis9319 3 жыл бұрын
Is it a scam if your interest is in 1 or 2 of the 60 interactive courses? Or are you upset that they didn't offer course 76 because you really wanted to do course 76?
@goutamboppana961
@goutamboppana961 3 жыл бұрын
Care elaborate about what Ur talking about
@MrKhaz101
@MrKhaz101 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcelgaddis9319 idk what that guy is on about but brilliant honestly is kind of a scam. I checked out some of their courses and it’s really not at all what they advertise, it’s basically just a strictly worse khanacademy where you learn general overviews of stuff but not how to actually do any of it. I don’t think it’s the worst thing ever, but it’s learning in the same way watching edutainment KZbin videos is learning.
@ChurchOfThought
@ChurchOfThought 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant is pretty bad but it's not a scam per-say. It's just not a good deal.
@goutamboppana961
@goutamboppana961 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrKhaz101 oh ok
@lexidecimal9941
@lexidecimal9941 3 жыл бұрын
This was amazing. Subbed. Got me really thinking and yeah, what a nightmare this is to work with after these batteries lives are done.
@JohnnyWednesday
@JohnnyWednesday 3 жыл бұрын
Science knows no borders! love from the UK
@asifalamgir4788
@asifalamgir4788 3 жыл бұрын
Love from BD
@JohnnyWednesday
@JohnnyWednesday 3 жыл бұрын
@@asifalamgir4788 - Peace and love to you!
@nuclearmaga9694
@nuclearmaga9694 3 жыл бұрын
always interesting to watch your videos
@scientificidiot4165
@scientificidiot4165 2 жыл бұрын
sorry for coming off rather rude, but what is up with the voice-over, I find it a tad bit jarring since it doesn't match up well with lip movement, any reason for voice-over instead of recorded voice?
@Kapalek84
@Kapalek84 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! The topic is super interesting and there are companies that are recycling batteries on commercial scale. Best regards!
@lazarian4428
@lazarian4428 3 жыл бұрын
I come for the science. I stay to see the kitty. :3
@ArtFiendz
@ArtFiendz 3 жыл бұрын
like an at home sperm donor
@yooltube2022
@yooltube2022 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtFiendz what you talking about
@chubetube
@chubetube 3 жыл бұрын
@@yooltube2022 think about it
@yooltube2022
@yooltube2022 3 жыл бұрын
@@chubetube shush
@taro8956
@taro8956 3 жыл бұрын
lmaooo 😭💀
@TheShivABC
@TheShivABC 3 жыл бұрын
I want to thank you for answering the questions I've always had but people are too afraid to find out
3 жыл бұрын
very similar to mine but I forgot a lot of details. Your videos are perfect
@seditt5146
@seditt5146 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah as you discovered here, one needs to use relatively sharp pipe cutters and cut EXTREMELY slowly else it binds the inside. When done really slowly that will not be so much of a problem.
@Mysixofnine
@Mysixofnine 3 жыл бұрын
🍻 cheers from Oregon! Thanks for the videos!!
@NetRolller3D
@NetRolller3D 2 жыл бұрын
@16:50 It's not primarily for cost-cutting, rather, nickel oxide can actually withstand a higher current as well as pack more lithium ions for higher capacity than cobalt oxide. (Manganese is even better at handling high current, at the expense of capacity.)
@eternalnature1413
@eternalnature1413 2 жыл бұрын
Very well done, excellent analysis and conclusion, thumbs up and subscribed!
@excitedbox5705
@excitedbox5705 3 жыл бұрын
Well you only filtered half the cobalt nickel lithium solution, so you would have gotten closer to 13g. I always lose a lot of product in the filter discs because I am too lazy to scrape it all off. Assuming you did the same you could probably have gotten closer to 14 total. I think a few steps could be improved at scale and also cheaper reactions used, and then it would be worth recycling.
@technovikingfan
@technovikingfan Жыл бұрын
Really well done man. You just explained a very complex scientific idea to a complete dummy (me) in your second language. Takes a really smart dude to do that. Sports figures and movie stars don't impress me...smart people like you do. Please keep up the great work my friend.
@info-load7952
@info-load7952 3 жыл бұрын
Love these videos. Keep up the good work
@robotslug
@robotslug 3 жыл бұрын
The translator is using a fake accent and I'm here for it.
@brucewilliams6292
@brucewilliams6292 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Seeing science in action on real world problems is very interesting. Thank you for the video.
@thehont1
@thehont1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much bro, priviet! we needed a good video like this, finally!
@sdpfd8537
@sdpfd8537 2 жыл бұрын
Sir can you please tell us how to separate the Ni and Co from that paste like substance.🙏
@GuidoPerdomo
@GuidoPerdomo 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos so so much! Is there a chance we could get a version of the video with the original audio with subtitles?
@Burnt_Gerbil
@Burnt_Gerbil 3 жыл бұрын
His main channel is Thoisoi and is in Russian. Go watch it if you like. 🤷‍♂️
@GuidoPerdomo
@GuidoPerdomo 3 жыл бұрын
@@Burnt_Gerbil thanks! Does it have subtitles, though?
@Burnt_Gerbil
@Burnt_Gerbil 3 жыл бұрын
@@GuidoPerdomo - Nope. Either watch this video with English captions or the other one in Russian.
@mikeconnery4652
@mikeconnery4652 2 жыл бұрын
A great idea
@sahmad120967
@sahmad120967 3 жыл бұрын
great experiment...even the goal is not fully reached but it really highlight the process
@bovinespongiformflu
@bovinespongiformflu 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!
@sigataros
@sigataros 5 ай бұрын
you can reuse cycled batteries for lower power consuming processes, if you drain a used battery slowly enough, you will get nearly the same capacity, it's just that internal resistance rises, the method of recycling in the video is only needed after the batteries are completely unusable most batteries are not fully cycled, for example in a laptop, if you use the battery for long enough, one of the cells or the bms might break and the rest of the cells are sent to recycling even though they can be reused
@andrewt9204
@andrewt9204 2 жыл бұрын
Nice experiment! So it sounds like the most economical way of recycling these now is freezing them, then shred and pulverize. Easier to separate the raw elements that way apparently, and freezing the batteries is easy and is supposed to make sure no reactions will occur while shredding. Now you have high quality already refined rare earth materials that just need to be separated out. This is what I have seen recently anyway and obviously has to be done in large scale with the right equipment. Redwood Recycling says they can recover 90% of usable materials already. If true, that's pretty good. If they really have this figured out, there's going to be big money in recycling this stuff when it catches on.
@chrisfreitag7259
@chrisfreitag7259 3 жыл бұрын
I love how much I love your videos that I hit like and then watch the entire thing without worrying about anything at all. Now.. My comment is concluded. I got a video to watch 👍✨
@jefrysaxalexy-jz4nq
@jefrysaxalexy-jz4nq 7 ай бұрын
For the penultimate step, where you added NaOH and Co and Ni separated .... is it possible to use LiOH instead?
@andrewgivens5070
@andrewgivens5070 11 ай бұрын
I love this channel! I love his accent too!
@SixOhFive
@SixOhFive 9 ай бұрын
I don't like the accent
@nikbivation
@nikbivation Жыл бұрын
wow, that is some deep research, thank you!
@daleglastonbury96
@daleglastonbury96 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that was indeed well put together.
@TheExileFox
@TheExileFox 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious how the process would differ for LiPo batteries
@teropiispala2576
@teropiispala2576 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, but you should look at Tesla's recycling process. No need to wait a decade for efficient recycling because they have solved it already. The trick is to not restore the substances into they element form but isolate and reuse materials as they are. Most degredation is caused by mechanical cracking of graphite or silicon, which isolates part of the material from charging cycle. Chemically it is still intact. Sometimes there are dendrite Chrystal's from metallic lithium but typically it indicates a battery abuse like too deep cycles or charging in cold.
@quinnbrown9912
@quinnbrown9912 Жыл бұрын
I'd suggest accumulating all the spent lithium cells possible, as quickly as possible. The world as a whole is quickly becoming aware of the fact that our ability to produce lithium at maximum capacity will be overshot by our consumption (Demand) by about 100% per year over the next 5 years... Whomever discovers a viable (Effiecient) way to recycle dead lithium cells will be wealthy beyond measure, without a doubt. And those who tried but had not yet succeeded in developing a procedure to do so, will have quite a valuable store of test materials leftover.
@Fred82ndAbn
@Fred82ndAbn 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! very interesting Thoisoi2 !! Looks like a very, very complicated process nevertheless. No wonder LiOn batteries get thrown away. Personally, I can't find a single place in my region that takes them for recycling. The single company I've found that will take them charges a processing fee leading me to conclude that is not economically feasible for them to do it (yet). One would think that with all this green push the manufacturers would've come up with a practical methods of recycling lion batteries, but no. I fear this will be a big issue soon and we are literaly trading fossil fuel energy independence for rare-earth dependence mostly coming from China.
@marcusmt4746
@marcusmt4746 3 жыл бұрын
At the same time, there are much less rare-earth elements than oil, coal and gas.
@Fred82ndAbn
@Fred82ndAbn 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcusmt4746 stripping the earth for these minerals are very very impactful to the env, but is forbidden to question tech nowadays.
@timdillon4876
@timdillon4876 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fred82ndAbn basically at some point if we can't find better methods, then stripping asteroids and planets in the solar system of materials might be the only solution in a long while. It'd be great if we made more breakthroughs in nuclear energy it's by far the best source of fuel and we can literally solve the coming water crises by using the passive heat from nuclear reactors to boil and make ocean water drinkable which has been done already and shown to be very effective
@wglenbatemanjr9729
@wglenbatemanjr9729 2 жыл бұрын
So where does the economically FEASIBLE Lithium occur? Afganistan and the Atacama as far as I know.... and the excrements od psychotics prescribed the carbonate salts🙄😆
@dreamoftranscendence4415
@dreamoftranscendence4415 10 ай бұрын
Coming from China & South America from mines that have a negative impact on people working in them and on the environment.
@sirellyn
@sirellyn 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I'm surprised we aren't switching to graphene batteries. They are SO much easier to recycle and they hold a lot more (and charge faster too).
@toddkautz4979
@toddkautz4979 2 жыл бұрын
Hello thoisoi from Australia I watch your channel every day. Your cat is cute I named it " neutrino ".
@ghlscitel6714
@ghlscitel6714 2 жыл бұрын
Woud be interesting to know how the lithium isotope composition is in this recovered lithium. Is it possible to isolate lithium 6 from the batteries?
@amphibiousone7972
@amphibiousone7972 2 жыл бұрын
You are among my favorite educators. Thank you for you high level content. I respect your service to our scientific knowledge. Good Fortunes Great Successes and Many Blessings.
@Xibyth
@Xibyth 3 жыл бұрын
Remember folks, there are two additional factors to consider before dismantling batteries. One is just because it can output the amps needed for your device doesn't mean its drained. Two is surface charge exists, ground the batteries with a specialized device for your cells, using a ground rod can cause thermal runaway.
@pheelix-
@pheelix- 3 жыл бұрын
Three is to use a plastic or wooden tool to remove the spot welded strips from the cells. This way you don't arc the cell even if there is or isn't any charge in it. Tip: Put some heat shrink around the tip of some needle nose pliers to help remove the strips and not arc the cell.
@laughingman3777
@laughingman3777 3 жыл бұрын
19:14 Charge $2 extra for a spoon of that guacamole and you'll make up the difference in lost Lithium.
@bombero34fr
@bombero34fr 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you thoisoi! Recycling is the ultimate graal for tomorow. Great video. hope somebody find the right way. I 'll be the ultimate hero.
@terischannel
@terischannel 3 жыл бұрын
You are a seriously great scientist and teacher.
@PranavkumarEA
@PranavkumarEA 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I have watched
@justinlacapria2898
@justinlacapria2898 3 жыл бұрын
I have a pile of dead cells I've salvaged over the years so I'll be curious to see if this is something I can do to extract the lithium
@gyszabolcs
@gyszabolcs 3 жыл бұрын
Chemistry is awesome! Thanks for the video
@ICanDoThatToo2
@ICanDoThatToo2 3 жыл бұрын
Lithium is as common as dirt. Wouldn't it be more valuable to extract the cobalt?
@bhblueberry
@bhblueberry 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations for not giving up after obtaining the green solution :)
@bhblueberry
@bhblueberry 3 жыл бұрын
Oh and for filtering the green-paste solution you should look for proper dissolvent I think :) Just need to look in the tables :)
@VolV8
@VolV8 3 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable. Thanks for the upload ✌️
@jeffarmstrong1308
@jeffarmstrong1308 3 жыл бұрын
One of your better videos and that it saying a lot! Don't sell yourself short about yield. You actually achieved a yield about twice what you thought you did at 18:40 At 17:50 you say that you leave about half of that superfine precipitate behind to avoid burning out your vacuum pump so the yield of Lithium carbonate is the yield from about 5 cells not the ten you started with.
@zazugee
@zazugee 3 жыл бұрын
no, he compensated for that, when he weight it it was 3g something and he multiplied it by the volume fraction
@DFPercush
@DFPercush 3 жыл бұрын
If you just want to recycle the battery into a new battery, you can use the same ratio of metal oxides as the original, so you don't need to separate each metal. I would try to skip the sulfuric acid step and burn off the carbon in a hot, high oxygen environment. Maybe a good application for a tube furnace. There might be some lithium in the graphite coating on the copper anode as well, but I'm not sure if it would be enough to worry about. That might depend on whether it's fully discharged.
@chrisking7603
@chrisking7603 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great research project. Target minimal processing over purification for a new product. Surely, surely, oodles of people are working on that. Surely?? A big hurdle would be to ensure end-of-life returns to manufacturer. I've heard of only one company that has that goal.
@DFPercush
@DFPercush 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisking7603 The recycling pipeline would at least need a way to separate different brands or compositions of batteries. It may be possible robotically to flick them into different bins based on the print, if it's still readable. Or you could just break them all down, measure what you get, and add enough new material to get the ratio of metals you need. In any case, the main thing is just getting people to recycle their batteries, however it goes from there.
@7hunderstorm242
@7hunderstorm242 3 жыл бұрын
Can u show us how to get différents chemicals like lithium in batteries, or lanthanides in lighters, or potassium chlorine from salt
@陳柏廷-u5p
@陳柏廷-u5p 3 жыл бұрын
potassium chlorine from salt sounds really hard to separate
@7hunderstorm242
@7hunderstorm242 3 жыл бұрын
@@陳柏廷-u5p not that hard bcz at boilling température of water 100°c the solubility of KCl is bigger than that of NaCl
@ИвоВасилев
@ИвоВасилев 3 жыл бұрын
You are the smartest person i have seen!
@shortaybrown
@shortaybrown 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Nice work !!
@RhoGamingYT
@RhoGamingYT 3 жыл бұрын
Love your vid so much :)
@The3arecrazy
@The3arecrazy 3 ай бұрын
11:15 Can I use HCl?
@birisuandrei1551
@birisuandrei1551 2 жыл бұрын
Your voice reminds me of Steven hawking's robotic voice ngl.
@andrebuzeli111
@andrebuzeli111 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is so clever that he speaks in cursive English
@athiyamahapatra8118
@athiyamahapatra8118 3 жыл бұрын
underrated comment alert- I told my mom your joke and she laughed :D
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