How much money I make as a new grad Physician Assistant working in the Emergency Department $$

[@J.I.0]

Love the pay transparency. Do another video and show the difference when you do a lot of overtime and if it's worth it to you or not. Keep the content coming

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

Okay! That’s a great idea! Thank you 🙏🏻

[@TheToxicMegacolon]

I enjoy people who are transparent about their salary! Looking forward to more vids man

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

Appreciate you!

[@stunart]

33% deducted is crazy dude. Appreciate the video

[@mirakleee]

This is sooo helpful! EM has been my top choice for specialties. I start PA school in May! Thank you for getting straight to it!!

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

That’s awesome! Let me know if there is anything else you are curious about that I could cover. Good luck!

[@JohnstasBACK]

Awesome bro. Thanks for the input for us grad students

[@OutLoudJB]

Great video dude! I’m also a new grad in the ER - been practicing 5 months now and your numbers are pretty spot on👌 I hope you’re enjoying your job. There’s good days and frustrating days for me, but I’m enjoying it right now. Good docs to learn from is key🔑!!!

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

Hey glad you are enjoying it! The docs and PAs/NPs I work with teach me soooo much!

[@pheengaming9240]

Great video! If anybody wants to be a PA, you got to really want to take care of patients. It can’t be about the money because There are a lot of other ways to make good money that are easier, less stressful, and less debt. I made 130k as CT travel Tech in 2022 (have no debt) and the crazy part is only about 56k of that was taxable from the hourly wage. The rest was from the tax free stipend. As a Pa, the entire paycheck is taxable. Pa is a great career but you are selling your time to make decent money in the long run.

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

Thank you! Yes, I agree it can’t be entirely about the money or you will probably have a miserable time. However, I do believe to do this job you should be fairly compensated.

[@chipotleismylife4824]

Thank you for this!

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

Glad you liked it!

[@Deardhra]

Very helpful! Thank you!

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

😁😁😁

[@carapencak9502]

Wow so helpful thank you for sharing

[@J.Davila_NP]

I'm confused by your math. I'm a Nurse Practitioner paid hourly, and I make $80/hr. At 40hrs per week, that comes out to $166,400/yearly (Gross income). Is the $128,000/yearly income you mentioned your take-home pay (Net income)?

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

Your math is right for working 40 hours a week. In the ER we don’t work a regular 40 hour week. We usually do about 11-12 12 hour shifts a month which puts us at our contract hours. We sign a contract for 1,600 hours/year which is about 133 hours a month. And the agreed salary is $128,000/year. So $128,000 divided by 1600 hours is $80/hr. And then any overtime worked is just the hourly rate at $80/hr.

[@J.Davila_NP]

@@keldendelvecchio6932 I work ER too, in Texas. We do 12hr. shifts also. I typically average about 11-13 shifts per month, so I actually work about 36hrs. per week. But you're way underpaid brother! Get a year experience and get out of there.

[@J.Davila_NP]

That doesn't include overtime pay or our quarterly bonuses! I'll actually be closer to $190k, this year all together (Gross pay). I hate how ER's take advantage of new grad PA's and NP's. Hopefully you can get some good experience and get the heck out of there man. Good Luck.

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

@@J.Davila_NP thanks for this advice and sharing how much you make! I’ll hit my year mark in September which is exciting!

[@MotherEarth573]

Is it hard to get admitted to PA program? What do you think of online PA schools?

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

I would say it is pretty competitive. It is definitely attainable though. You just have to look up the requirements and try to exceed the minimum. My program was mainly online due to COVID. We were in person for a portion of didactic. I would say you will definitely benefit more from in person for clinical skills. I’m not sure if online programs like Yale have in person opportunities for clinical skills or how they go about that. I would have to look more into it.

[@Patherfinder1234]

Hi @Kelden, I am enjoying you're videos! Mind giving me insight what is a realistic number of patients per hour as a new grad starting out in EM?

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

Hey 👋🏻 great question. I would say it depends on which hospital you work at and if you only see fast track type patients or if you also see more critical patients as well as how high/low the census is usually at the hospital. My hospital has been having a lower census so we have been cut down to 8 and 9 hour shifts. I also just hit my year mark in the ER, so with that I would say for the past several months I have been averaging anywhere from 13-17 patients in a 8 or 9 hour shift. And those are a mix of higher acuity complaints and fast track complaints. If I were to only see fast track patients I could see way more. I don’t know exactly when the title of new grad goes away haha but my first 2 -3 months I would say I was probably seeing under 10 in a 12 hour shift because I was still getting used to the EMR and charting and learning where everything was and I was also asking a ton of questions and running every single patient by someone more senior than me. I still run patients by docs and other PA’s/NPs to get some input here and there and I still ask questions everyday. Hope this helps!

[@princessjazz5767]

Kelden I am assuming this pay is for 2 to 3 shifts a week after 2 weeks (as u said bi weekly cheque)?

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

Yes, I work about 2-3 shifts a week and get paid every 2 weeks!

[@tafarihowe3277]

Ppl don’t understand when you make over a 100k how much hands go into your pocket lol. I make 6k a month (take home) as a respiratory therapist working 4 days a week. Every single time I look at how much I pay in taxes I get sick to my stomach.

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

For real though! I get that same feeling. I understand we have to pay taxes, but it’s freaking robbery how much we have to pay. Also, that’s pretty good take home pay!

[@mjfreespirit]

I'm thinking about becoming a PA. As a truck driver I'm making about 4k after taxes. I just need to figure if 2k more a month is worth the cost of going back to school.

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

Have you shadowed any PAs to see if that’s something you would want to do? Also, to take into consideration - I’m making pretty much the exact median of what PAs make so you might make more or you might make less. I would do some research into what specialty you would want to do and the area you want to live in to get a ballpark idea of what you would be making.

[@mjfreespirit]

@@keldendelvecchio6932 I have not done any shadowing. I guess the other consideration is I work 70+hours a week to make that 4k. I'm really interested in specializing becoming a psychiatric physician assistant. My research led me to get my bachelor's in Psychology, while adding on the required course work for PA School. The plan would be dual licensure as an LMHC/PA-C. Then after I graduate as a PA-C, going back and getting my PsyD. Haven't found many resources that would support this path. I could just try to get into med school and do psychiatry, but I'm not sure i would get enough counseling/medication balance as a provider. Certainly I'd have to focus on becoming a PA-C first then go back to school to get a second masters in counseling. Then work towards my PsyD. I'd love to work in a State Psychiatric Hospital.

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

@@mjfreespirit if you are that passionate and set on working in psychiatry and that’s ALL you would want to do I would recommend just going to med school and pursue becoming a psychiatrist instead of trying to get multiple degrees. You would be spending probably close in student loans to get these different degrees and it would also probably take the same amount of time to just bite the bullet and go to med school.

[@mjfreespirit]

@@keldendelvecchio6932 Thank you. I will give psychiatry a try. I was just figuring as a PA i could get to working sooner and making money than the psychiatrist track

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

@@mjfreespirit you definitely would be working a lot sooner, but you don’t want to work that hard to become a PA and have second thoughts on if you should’ve went to med school. I think becoming a PA is really attractive because you aren’t locked into a certain speciality. That’s why I said if psychiatry is all you would want to do then that perk of being a PA wouldn’t apply to you. I would recommend trying to shadow people in the field before making any big life altering decisions so you can see what it’s like and pick that person’s brain to get all of your questions answered so there is no doubt in the decision you end up making!

[@xosanaz]

thank you!

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

😊

[@dpaper7962]

In your opinion is it worth going to PA school if you are already making $120,000/year as a Technologist by the time you graduate PA schoo assuming you get in on the first application?

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

The way things are going with inflation and mortgage and auto loan rates I would not recommend putting yourself into near $100k into debt to be making the same amount of money. Luckily my school was paid for by the military, so if you are able to do it debt free then I would say go for it!

[@jancalvinsinay6883]

Same question, been a tech/MLS for 13yrs.. Thinking of going to PA school, but I am already earning the same amount, which makes it more difficult to decide.. Thanks for your insight! really helpful!

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

@@jancalvinsinay6883 yeah if you are making the same amount then there is no reason to set yourself back with loans and time! Just my opinion though!

[@njpme]

​@@keldendelvecchio6932something was telling me you were a veteran and I said naaah. It's probably the beard 😂

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

@@njpme it’s my freedom beard 😂

[@spencerdean4181]

Your federal income tax is crazy low… you must have dependents or something. I lose that much every week with half your income.

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

Nope no dependents. I believe it is set up so I’m paying the exact amount to where I won’t owe money but also to where I won’t get a refund at the end of the year. I also think it’s still pretty high haha

[@BRiT297]

thanks for this!

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

🫡

[@MrRazorback1975]

The simple answer, not as much as a doctor, the end

[@chipotleismylife4824]

I live in sac, california and nurses get more than this pay -- but not sure how much PAs, I am assuming (and hoping) that it will be more!

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

I’m sure PAs get paid more in Sacramento, Ca than where I live. The cost of living is comparatively low where I’m at currently. Also, travel nurses where I’m at are getting paid like $150/hr because there is such a shortage. (I don’t really think that is going to last forever, if so they will definitely need to also bump up the APPs rate) So, cost of living and supply & demand are big things to take into consideration. Are the nurses where you live working a lot of overtime or is their hourly rate just higher? I would also be curious to know what exactly PAs are making in Sacramento, Ca!

[@chipotleismylife4824]

@@keldendelvecchio6932 What area do you live in? Im sure many nurses work overtime, but their starting base pay is just a few dollars short of what PAs make.

[@elizabethdadds7727]

how long are your shifts? or if they vary how many hours a week or pay period do u typically work?

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

I usually work 12 hour shifts, but lately we have been doing 9 or 10 hour shifts due to a lower census which is expected to increase with the warmer weather. I get paid every 2 weeks and work about 133ish hours a month. Sometimes I have like 4 or 5 days off in a row so the hours a week varys a lot.

[@ChristianPA]

Are you on TRICARE for your insurance? How is it so cheap?

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

No, just blue cross blue shield from the job. It is really cheap though!

[@Themedinsights]

Hello PAs

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

Hello 👋🏻

[@Mstechgf]

Nurses in Cali makes 90 an hour

[@MotherEarth573]

Fresh grad?

[@yuliaaaaaaaaaaa]

yeah but cali’s cost of living is high

[@musaddiqsiddiqui7535]

What are the basic qualifications for physician assistant

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

Each PA program has their own specific pre requisites, but to get in a PA program you basically need a bachelors degree with specific course requirements, patient care hours, volunteer hours, shadowing hours, personal statement, and references.

[@ag2158]

Can you talk about also your student loan monthly payment.

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

Hello 👋🏻 I fortunately do not have any student loans. My schooling was paid for by the VA. I could ask some of my friends that I went to PA school with about their loans. Are their any specifics you would like to know about?

[@ag2158]

@@keldendelvecchio6932 Hi yes that would be helpful info regarding their student loan payments. Also any insight about NP vs PA? They both seem similar in their job duties.

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

@@ag2158 okay I can make another video on that and talk about NPs and PAs as well 😃

[@ag2158]

@@keldendelvecchio6932 thank you so much

[@arkyboy14]

Seen a P.A. recently in their office and the visit lasted approx. 10 minutes. All we had was a verbal conversation. My insurance was billed $600.00.

[@njpme]

Pennsylvania is like let me take everything 😂

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

I know right🥲😂

[@cameronponte1121]

can I ask what state you live in? I live in Cali and I would not be able to live here with that salary :/

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

Pennsylvania. Yeah, I lived in California for a few years. It’s pretty expensive in some parts. The pay I would imagine would be more in California. But good luck in whatever you end up doing!

[@yuliaaaaaaaaaaa]

Np’s/Pa’s get paid way more in California.

[@jackwilloughby871]

what was your undergraduate degree?

[@keldendelvecchio6932]

Public health with concentration in pre-med

[@sammathews6634]

Any loan repayment benefits? family medical insurance or your insurance benefits? Any other benefits?