How Much Should You Pay For a Phone?!

[@simonbernlieger]

Timestamps: 0:00 - Phones vs Cars 0:48 - How much can you save? 2:49 - How are you using your phone? 4:50 - Summary

[@MwaiDennis]

Your calm content is nice to watch. It is like a lecture back at university. Or sitting around a fire in the evening. There is no loud background music and heavy bright captions on the videos. Here is another subscriber. I own a galaxy A15 because of my light and minimalistic usage of media.

[@simonbernlieger]

Wow, that is wonderful to hear - thank you so much man! :)

[@catalinpetrescu8488]

This is just so simply put, yet so well done. You really don't need an expensive phone nowadays that much...

[@simonbernlieger]

Thank you, I am glad you liked it 😊

[@dylanraythornton]

when i got myself my first iphone i was excited, until it lasted for two years and opted to never go above mid range for something that usually will get replaced every few years.

[@simonbernlieger]

Good decision!

[@Showscopemedia]

What is your midrange like in India midrange means about $300 which I think is best but few years back Midrange was used to $230 somthing

[@vicky20237]

@@Showscopemedia i'd guess about 300-600

[@jiffonbuffo]

​@@ShowscopemediaBelow 300 for me. These phones, even Samsung, sink very quickly in less than a year. Iphone users can gloat about resell value but I still view used iphones as overpriced. Not to mention the potential repairs from being a used phone lol.

[@theuchihagod1]

In my opinion 350$ is the most you should spend for a phone because you could get an s20 ultra or a note 20 ultra better in my opinion or if you want to look more modern get the s21 ultra or the s22+

[@simonbernlieger]

Yeah used / refurbed flagships are always a great choice!

[@sampath1861]

Glad to see some people like you analysing phone to price to usage instead of suggesting to buying new flagship. I am a moderate user with exceptional battery life preference. I own Galaxy M51(7000mah battery) which i bought around 250-300$ price range 4yrs back and recently tab S7FE(10090mah) for ~400$. fun part is both of them on par/outlasts current apple/samsung flagships interms of battery life. I guess this mid tier feels gifted. fast enough processors so that phone won't lag, avoids luxury features that only very few people use in reallife to save the manufacturing costs

[@simonbernlieger]

Thank you for your kind words! :) And I love how you know exactly what is important for you in a phone and chose accordingly - well done!

[@iamza1d]

You raise some really nice points and yes absolutely these questions should be asked before buying a smartphone. But you know what, most people these days are looking for everything - i mean good camera, good screen, good battery. Like an all rounder. But there's hardly any phone that have all these. And i think it's actually very intentional from the companies who make phones. That's why we have base, pro and ultra models. Let's say if any company just makes a phone that is an all rounder then it wouldn't help them.

[@simonbernlieger]

Yes, that is certainly true.

[@DrNikkhil]

Great initiative and great analogy of a car

[@simonbernlieger]

Thanks, glad you like it :)

[@andre96miller]

Thanks for these useful considerations. Could you make a video tryng to analyze the differences between investing in a cloud storage (GDrive, iCloud...) vs investing in physical storage (SSD, ...)? In your opinion, which one is actually better? Have a great day.

[@simonbernlieger]

Great video idea! I will look into it. Currently I use a mixture of both cloud storage and physical storage.

[@miheerporadiya]

Best bet is to get last year's flagship for cheap or stick to midrange phones

[@Dave....]

I'm pretty mad that I've bought this Oneplus Nord N10, back in 2021. Not because it's like a more cheaper phone. But now I've really learned and understand, much more about OS and security updates. Which I'm realizing are really the bread and butter. To seeing how many years your phone will hold up well and make it your money's worth. I had my last security update back at the end of 2023. And my phone has been pretty much struggling ever since. I'm deciding between eirehr the Oneplus 12r, A54, A35 and I've even been looking at the Moto G Power 2024. As a much more cheaper option. But the main goal is to have a phone, that will actually work well for many years to come.

[@simonbernlieger]

Yeah thankfully big players like Samsung and Google now guarantee security updates for longer and longer. And Apple also of course.

[@carlosemiralonso7997]

Instead, for me at least. The tech became obsolete at 2 years because of the processor and hardware being old. That means, no such thing as having software updates for an old device that is going to the trash anyway. And I'm currently on a samsung j7. The moment a 16 gb storage became obsolete... so many years ago.

[@ikuma021]

I wish I could see your video sooner, I recently bought a S24U...even thought it is my dream phone, sure the camera is great, the screen is large but comparing to S20FE, it isn't that much better...

[@simonbernlieger]

If you already have it..just enjoy it for as long as possible :)

[@ikuma021]

@@simonbernlieger yeah, better to be that way

[@PHUONGFIBO]

Yes, You're right. On my summary always use Samsung flagship phone ( not folding) and from 2018 to now. only take me 15$ per month.

[@simonbernlieger]

that's great

[@PHUONGFIBO]

@@simonbernlieger Change every 2 years is best, now even 3 years cause firmware stay update even longer than before

[@jejunamja]

You know I just bought a Galaxy S9 in mint condition for $75 and it does everything I needed texting, calling ,Google calendar, maps , podcasts,KZbin and it has an SD card for my 60 gigs of music and I can use a headphone jack. I think it's like a 6-year-old flagship phone and so I don't put any banking apps or Amazon or eBay or anything like that on the phone . It's also a great size phone only a 5.8 in screen with curves on both sides fits your pocket really easy it's actually really nice phone the fingerprint scanner is on the back and it works every time 100%.

[@simonbernlieger]

old flagships is where it’s at! well done :)

[@Arka_Singh]

Great content buddy. Keep it up.

[@simonbernlieger]

Appreciate that! :)

[@ricj8432]

I’ve had an iPhone 11 for about 4 years and the battery is terrible. I need something with a decent battery because I’m usually at work for most of the day and I alternate between listening to music & podcasts and watching KZbin. When I get home I do some design work on my Mac and so I’m pretty much locked into the Apple ecosystem. I am considering the iPhone 16 mainly cause it has a better battery and looks good, I’m not too fussed about the camera, sound, or ai. I intend to keep it for 3 - 5 years and figured it would cost me around £15 a month, which isn’t too bad considering I’ll be using it more than anything else. I agree £799 is expensive for a phone.

[@yashchavan9414]

You can try iphone 15 plus. It beats 15 pro max in terms of battery

[@simonbernlieger]

when you plan to keep it for 3-5 years the 16 is surely a good purchase! Otherwise as @yashchavan9414 has said it might be worth looking into a 14 or 15Plus especially if battery life is important for you

[@Franzotm]

@@yashchavan9414 Ye but it only has 60hz but it mostly matters if you've actually tried 120hz.

[@andre96miller]

Been there (iPhone 11 and then 13 mini, even worst). Fortunately, I'm not totally stucked into Apple ecosistem (I still have a Windows PC), so that brought me switching to Android with the Galaxy A55. Sincerly, I'm not regretting. 1 year usage and my iPhone 13 mini did not last more than half a day under stress situation. Paying 800€ for that triggered me. I saw that more like some lacking of honesty. That stopped me to consider another iOS model like the Plus ones.

[@ricj8432]

@@andre96millerthanks for your reply. I ended up going with the 16. The battery is miles better but still decreases quickly when watching KZbin. I am happy to only need to charge it once per day as opposed to multiple times per day. I admit it, I am trapped in this ecosystem 😢

[@JacobElordi-k4x]

I want to buy a cheap phone but i dont want to spend more than 300$ my two option are pixel 6 pro for 250$ or the samsung galaxy a55 for 300$ which one do u suggest?

[@simonbernlieger]

Pixel all the way. I enjoy stock android.

[@PeTer-x5g6k]

Nowadays the price of the phone is rarely a reason not to buy it... the basic performance is usually pretty good even in sub 100€/120$ low china budget phones for basic tasks. But I REALLY struggle to get a new phone because they are getting way too big... I used to have a Samsung J5 which was perfect with a 5 inch screen. Now my current (already kinda too big) 5.93 inch phone is about to retire but I can't find a decent compact phone in the 4.8 inch - 5.5 inch range to replace it. Tech youtubers consider a 6.2 inch screen compact already

[@simonbernlieger]

I feel you!! It really is a shame but unfortunately it seems that we who like small phones are the minority...:( That's why Apple for example stopped the mini iPhone

[@pavaomrazek]

Exacly, if you're a type of guy who likes smaller phones, you won't find anything below 500€ sadly

[@LanceAvion]

Honestly if I didn’t have my iPhone 13 Mini today, it would still get one and it can be found for less than 500€ easily. At 5.4 inches it’s a great size. Once that model is outdated though, I don’t know what I’ll use next.

[@peterpagac8607]

I bought Unihertz Jelly Star, a 3" android phone and daily drive it for a year without issues. Jelly Max 5" will be out soon :)

[@PatrikKron]

It’s the same for me. I have a 13 mini as a workphone and need a new private phone. I don’t know what to get. I would buy a 16 pro mini at 16 pro max prices if it existed.

[@pauskiedonna4983]

These are the contents i have been longing for. Pathetic as it may seem, at least I try to be more practical. You earned a sub!

[@simonbernlieger]

Thank you so much!!

[@Showscopemedia]

A $250-$300 generally lasts 4 years if you want it to You can get that after 4 years get another one and boom you got the latest tech because of competition and some sort of best features Or get the iPhone/any other for somthing $800 and hold it for 6 years ( i would personally ) and misses the latest tech on your phone and atlast you would be frustrated with this

[@simonbernlieger]

I agree with you. Especially on the second one. I currently have the iPhone 13 (bought it 2,5 years ago) and I am not planning to upgrade anytime soon. Before that I had the original iPhone SE which was getting long in the tooth..battery was horrendous..

[@carlosemiralonso7997]

You deserve more likes.

[@vas.o]

I wanted to buy A55 to change my 3-years old A72, but i don't like this glass back panel. So, i looked to S24 (7 years updatingl, but it uses Exynos, so i started looking for S23 and IT HAS GLANCE MIRRORING EDGES

[@simonbernlieger]

So what will you do?

[@vas.o]

@@simonbernlieger i think s23 is better option. So i wait for better discount or one more year, cause it cost $700 today

[@s2000.]

I think a older but good condition refurbished flagship phone is the best if you want a budget friendly option. I don't like the less through build quality and design of cheaper phones. I really enjoy an old iPhone 11 Pro with a new battery, it's a comfortable size and the screen still looks way better than many cheaper phones + has faceid. I think that it comes down to the person, I like having some premium things around, so I think it's ok to buy a expensive phone if I want to. Phones are so good nowadays it's not that bad of an idea to even buy a brand new flagship, since it will last for 5+ years for sure as long as you don't break it and swap the battery if needed.

[@simonbernlieger]

I agree 100%. Older premium > New cheap

[@azeemtics6613]

I buy my phone second-hand, don't really had issues

[@i-vernsimphonique3012]

After watching this video, I reflected on why I am currently using my iPhone 15…. I switched from a Samsung Galaxy Android phone to an iPhone because of the Apple ecosystem, Apple Family sharing for iCloud, music etc, and for the screen time features that aren’t available on Android. iPhones are more secure because of the regular software updates…. No more Android devices for me thus 😅😬. I intend to use my iPhone 15 for about 3-4 years?

[@simonbernlieger]

@MeigoGalaico whatever floats one's boat :)

[@simonbernlieger]

I personally understand it, as I am also deep into the Apple Ecosystem :)

[@i-vernsimphonique3012]

Thank you for understanding! 😄🍀

[@moriel01]

*_The last flagship phone that I bought was Huawei Mate 10, then after that I only bought midrange phones._*

[@simonbernlieger]

How long did you keep the Huawei?

[@moriel01]

@@simonbernlieger *_I still have it and it's still working, I use it as a secondary phone. It's 7 years already._*

[@rockinggautam]

I bought redmi note 7s in mid 2019, flashed pixel experience rom still working perfectly but I bought moto edge 30 this Feb, two days ago got green line issue. One of the main point I am saying is people think expensive smartphones are better but answer is not. Because if they sell it expensive then they sure want to ruin it so people buy more expensive and more of the phones.

[@simonbernlieger]

Yeah, I see your point. That is capitalism to some extent though

[@mikolizazi]

I once owned a cheap Samsung phone coming from an iPhone, and I can confidently say the experience was frustrating after a couple of weeks. Cheap Android phones with low specs and memory will ground down in performance quite quickly. I hated it.

[@djaywalebabu]

Mobiles priced above 40,000 are luxury products.

[@simonbernlieger]

I agree. Unless you have a practical application for lets say the camera (KZbin for example) it is as you say just luxury.

[@internationaltrailers2815]

If you are into iphones, always look into apple refurbished section for previous year flagships. Use them for about 5-6 years and repeat. If you are into android, you can find so many cheap deals on 1 year or 2 year old flagships and do the same as above. In conclusion, always i mean always go for previous year phones to just save and get most out of your money.

[@simonbernlieger]

Absolutely. That is a great deal

[@SproutyPottedPlant]

Cheap 4G flip phone with a reliable RTOS for basic calls and text and an iPad.

[@simonbernlieger]

Oh that explains my question above! That is a great strategy then - good choice :)

[@Rajkumar.R-kn7sb]

Seeing this video on sub $90 phone. Redmi 9A sport which bought 3 years ago.

[@simonbernlieger]

That is great to hear :)

[@andrewm.nuwamanya6447]

Same here. I've been with my Samsung A71 for 4 years and looking to squeeze another 2 good years out of it

[@0xDEAD_Inside]

Yep, I will get my current phone's battery replaced and get another year out of it.

[@mazenyasser7208]

My phones were always less than 230$ and I'm generally satisfied. I'd only pay more just for a change or exploring as a tech enthusiast.

[@simonbernlieger]

Great way to go :)

[@ciprianadrian21]

I think 800$ is the sweet spot.

[@jedolivier2688]

The OnePlus 12 has gotten rave reviews with some saying that they switched from Samsung & Apple & weren’t going back.

[@simonbernlieger]

OnePlus and Google Pixel would always be my goto picks in android world

[@SproutyPottedPlant]

iPhone screen is too small us us visually impaired so the iPad is the good option and long battery life basic phone too 😊

[@simonbernlieger]

But you unfortunately can't do regular calls on them, can you?

[@someguy4849]

Damn, i spent $1300 on a Samsung S23 ultra and its worth every penny. Got a second phone, an iphone 15 pro for $900 and its such a waste of money, an expensive piece pf crap with an inferior system that just looks nice for apple deluded fan boys, never again.

[@jiffonbuffo]

Can you buy it 2x without blinking and without being cursed to eat noodles for the next few months? Buy it.

[@simonbernlieger]

Love that!

[@gloween9151]

Or you can buy a used flagship device for dirt cheap.

[@simonbernlieger]

Yes!

[@JF-wp2rz]

Cheap Android phones are just so big usually unfortunately :(

[@simonbernlieger]

Yes..but iPhones sadly also got much bigger

[@Highest]

Me who bought a galaxy fold: 👁👄👁

[@abz7800]

i have never and will never pay more than £400 for a phone i have been an iphone user and currently using 13pm

[@simonbernlieger]

when did you get your iphone 13 pro max and for how much money?

[@abz7800]

@@simonbernlieger ebay i got it for £380 actually but i just rounded it up . also it was a 256gb model

[@nonactive3654]

They depreciate like an avacado. Stop paying for insurance.

[@simonbernlieger]

😂🥑 You are absolutely right - paying for phone insurance is rather dumb!

[@pro-hz7kx]

When the insurance ends, the phone costs less than insurance 😂 just use a good case and protection glass and you’re set unless you work in construction or smth like that

[@winxtra2892]

At most $250 every 4-years.. end of discussion..

[@iansuperchamp5451]

Samsung is only 50 bucks after 3 yrs

[@geoman1420]

Nothing... buy a cheap Android instead!

[@Franzotm]

Nah the cameras ain't good, I have both the note 10 plus and z flip 3.

[@Noa15Lv]

@@Franzotm Who will count those pixels on your fancy instagram profile? Camera is camera, at least compared to phone cameras 14 years ago..

[@gokultn72]

Better to buy cheap flagship android phones like Realme GT 6

[@newsuperbowserworld]

But people like iOS because it’s better

[@rockinggautam]

​@@newsuperbowserworld For what? What's the purpose of buying? Scrolling social media. Dumb generation is this.

[@newsuperbowserworld]

@@rockinggautam how are you going to act like that when you have no idea how old I am? You also have no idea if I like KZbin shorts or TikTok or whatever you can scroll on. Your comment is completely pointless.

[@yehor.d]

​@@newsuperbowserworldbetter for what?

[@newsuperbowserworld]

@@yehor.d iOS much more fluid, looks better, feels better, apps are consistent in design, doesn’t come with 5000 apps pre installed (cough cough, Samsung), has little details. I could go on all day.

[@koma7778]

Its not a phone, its a status symbol. The more expensive and apple you buy the dumber status you are

[@jedolivier2688]

The IPhone SE 4 will launch in March of 25 in US at a price of $499.99. This phone will offer most if not all of the features that the 16 has at a much lower price.

[@simonbernlieger]

Looking foraward to it