Keep these video's coming 👍 I'm stuck at home in lockdown and these video's really cheer me up .
@ut000bs3 жыл бұрын
Why are you stuck inside, armed guards? I was joking unless you're in like the UK or Australia then I'm sorry and I love you.
@deborahhopkinson52432 жыл бұрын
That was neat. I learn so much from your videos. Thank you for taking the time to explain even the smallest detail. Lots of fun!
@xobaby38626 ай бұрын
sir, you have the best videos for everything metals related. i appreciate you so much. thanks.
@michiganprospectors2 жыл бұрын
Good to know cause I had no idea how many other metals were in lead wheel weights. I often thought about buying them for some projects needing lead. Thanks for sharing this.
@philbartoli20114 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Have you done a video on recovering the lead from the cupels?
@RalphReagan4 жыл бұрын
I keep asking myself is it more valuable to recover the precious metals or mold bullets with that lead?
@ManMountainMetals4 жыл бұрын
is that enough silver content to kill werewolves?
@TaintedMojo4 жыл бұрын
I came here just to make that comment. I would assume the total mass of lead itself would be more valuable on it’s own merits than the value of whatever paltry sum of silver you recover.
@barryfields29644 жыл бұрын
Recycled lead sells for about 50¢ a lbs 300 grams would be about 33¢. .04 grams of silver is worth about 1.9¢.
@garymucher95904 жыл бұрын
Bullet making hands down. You can easily sell molded bullets for a heck of a lot more then the trace silver...
@phillipbainbridge91074 жыл бұрын
Bullets, hands down. Once you get a knack for which ones are pure soft and which ones have tin and antimony in them you can get a perfect mix by adding your own linotype lead, soft, tin, antimony, nickel, etc.
@pappy374 жыл бұрын
Love the videos and learning, keep em' coming.
@EddieVBlueIsland4 жыл бұрын
I was told by the first metallurgist I worked with that cupels made from human bones worked best - at first I thought he was joking - but looking at how the lead oxide is absorbed by the cuple -- human bones must work good.
@nullsnaggle51983 жыл бұрын
Its not human bones but it is bones
@ThomasJamesArt2513 жыл бұрын
Question: do you have to keep buying cupel cups or are they reusable??
@beebob12793 жыл бұрын
And how much do they cost? I've seen dry cement used as the cupel also. I would imagine that would be cheaper still
@TheRealWeirdoC3 жыл бұрын
If there's a lot of white material left, you may be able to use it again. If it is all discolored, it is saturated with litharge (lead oxide) and can't absorb any more.
@rickdoggr3 жыл бұрын
Can you recover the lead from the cupel?
@TheRealWeirdoC3 жыл бұрын
@@rickdoggr Yep. Use a reducing flux and melt the whole cupel. The lead oxide ("litharge") will be reduced back to elemental lead. It will be impure, though. Other base metals and their oxides will keep following it through the smelting and cupellation cycles.
@55metalmonkey2 жыл бұрын
@@beebob1279 Since no one answered your question on cost a mining supply shop near me sells smaller cupels for $1.25 ea. They only absorb up to 45g but the larger ones don't cost much more.
@MakingUsThink7 күн бұрын
Jason, I would be interested in the math of the cupels; before and after they absorb the junk? Could this assist in actual data numbers for the whole smelting of metals process. Does anyone ever do weights on cupels?
@badideametals11 ай бұрын
Jason, do you like using that QuickFire Pro furnace still? I am curious how well it holds up to cupelling
@jtsimmons31334 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool vid. Be sure to wear your P100 respirator when you're melting lead. That vapor is vicious.
@bobedwards88964 жыл бұрын
not any p100, gotta be organic vapor type
@mauserdave4 жыл бұрын
I was over by Conconully in Okanogan county. Looking at the old mines. There is literally tons of Galena laying around. I bet most of it is argentiferous. Doesn't take much room to make a ton of Galena. Even at a couple percent silver I seen enough laying around in old mine dumps to turn a good profit.
@madshephard2boots157 Жыл бұрын
My question is.. Could you melt the lead openly and take the slag off the top then do the cupelling process?
@jackking55674 жыл бұрын
The oxides could be from brake dust and the iron oxide that forms with it as the brake discs wear away? Surprised to see silver content in them because I always thought silver was extracted from lead ores? I know that here in the UK in the early lead mining operations they went to great lengths to recover silver from the freshly made lead metals. Silver percentages varied lots between mining areas but they still made a hefty profit on the silver they removed.
@larrytischler5702 жыл бұрын
Quite a bit has been written about wheel weight composition since they are frequently used to make cast economy hangun bullets. They used to have up to 3% tin in them but now they often have about 0.5 % arsenic. The antimony may be more toxic than the arsenic.
@vicroc4 Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, one of the reasons that clip-on wheel weights specifically are so useful for cast bullets is that the alloy gets just hard enough to hold together when used in pretty much any pistol cartridge. They have just the right mix of tin and antimony. And the arsenic content helps the hardening process.
@scrapmandan2453 жыл бұрын
the lead is worth more in scrap than the silver recovered, great video, thanks for sharing
@workingken42683 жыл бұрын
One thing i know that back in the day the electrical contacts the flat large actual plates were made of pure silver
@markneilson63804 жыл бұрын
Very few lead weights in the UK. Mostly Zinc and iron weights.
@alyxiastarling79904 жыл бұрын
good to know wheel weights are a good place to start for lead collector metal, though I would bet there is more in older lead from weights and stuff that isnt run through a modern refining process before its cast into weights.
@savannahbanana31834 жыл бұрын
Man, you are way over my head on this. but I appreciate the lesson, Thank You
@jasonwilliam21254 жыл бұрын
Such a metals nerd. Subbed. Great vid.
@JohnnySwedishScrapper4 жыл бұрын
realy intressting that lead can do that great video ;) as usual ;)
@MMProspecting4 жыл бұрын
Would like to see full process for silver ore
@fullpushmetals67114 жыл бұрын
Ill take a seat n watch! 😊 Keep Pushin!
@tomkeehn4 жыл бұрын
Codyslab has good content on that
@SabreCycles Жыл бұрын
Drill 2 holes for air flow. One 2" lower than the other. Use the lower one with a shut-off valve.
@jamest.50019 ай бұрын
At, 9:11) that could be brake dust also. Awesome video.
@paulmoore70644 жыл бұрын
Considering the cost of electricity, this doesn't look like a good way to add to my stack. Worth the information though.
@TheRussell7474 жыл бұрын
Gotta have the ability to go large scale for it to be worth it. Natural silver is very hard to find so it's actually very common for this to be done on a large scale as an alternative means of adding to the silver we have
@murlbailer37554 жыл бұрын
You solved the mystery of how much for me,thank you.
@ez19134 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jason. Very cool. That furnace needs a window. 😉
@karimrazak37983 жыл бұрын
Is the green color with quartz indicating the presence of gold?
@mindofmadness55933 жыл бұрын
Now I understand what the Cuppel is-asked on a different Vid last night. Zinc weights have a 'Zn' stanped on them. Easy way to tell.
@TaintedMojo4 жыл бұрын
What do you do with the saturated cupels?
@ManMountainMetals4 жыл бұрын
@J D powder them, mix with carbon, heat to 1600 degrees, lead sinks to bottom. 1 video back.
@The_Shoebill3D4 жыл бұрын
Throw them at neighbors
@patricknewlun79283 жыл бұрын
Nice video. God bless America!!
@nathandean16873 жыл бұрын
have you tried ball milling those wheel wieghts?
@beercanburr40583 жыл бұрын
We caught two guys using lead slugs on a dollar machine. They had the weight just right so they work. They got extradited to Jersey the next day. I guess Atlantic City wanted them worse than we did. Thanks
@arcanecrisis Жыл бұрын
This is an interesting concept iv never considered.
@JimNichols3 жыл бұрын
Another UTubered (sic) I watch likes the chemical approach to the same end. The heat creates oxides which are absorbed rather hungerly by the magnesia cupel. Great video sir, thanks for the time and effort each of these take!
@CoinSilver8004 жыл бұрын
I'm not doubting you but if you were to zap that button with your XRF and show the results it would be very helpful to prove that this button is silver or another precious metal, pgm
@superdave548114 жыл бұрын
Enteresting experiment. Not worth trying to recover silver from wheel weights though.
@RiskyMethods.812 жыл бұрын
Touching that little bit of lead won't hurt you, but if you're making any kind of dust as all you should definitely have a good respirator on.
@irwintatyana90663 жыл бұрын
thank you so much!
@markselten49854 жыл бұрын
Well, I would never have thought! Cheers for the eye opener
@mbmmllc4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@markselten49854 жыл бұрын
@@mbmmllc my pleasure.. I think you had fun too 😁
@donh47503 жыл бұрын
After you figure out how much it cost to do that "test" to get that small bead of silver, probably cost prohibitive, it's probably cheaper just to buy silver.
@arthurhardy4 жыл бұрын
Remind me to never let you borrow my tin snips.
@mbmmllc4 жыл бұрын
:)
@kennethkustren93814 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a pair of Linesman Pliers, or Sidecutters.... Aviation snips are for sheetmetal.
@justme4373 жыл бұрын
I'm new to this...can u recover the lead from the cupel???
@ShipperChick4 жыл бұрын
Genuine question (not trying to be snarky) but is that work and the cost of the electricity worth it to recover that little silver?
@samuraichad3433 жыл бұрын
Very cool. I’m guessing those cupells are a one time use and throw away thing?
@CandSMINING4 жыл бұрын
Great video.👍 Never would have checked lead for silver.🤔✅ Thanks for sharing the info.😎👍👍👌👌
@briandrew26894 жыл бұрын
tjanks for letting me know the ratios brother i really appreciate all the info you put out!
@DeliciousDeBlair4 жыл бұрын
Wow ! I had a WHOLE BUNCH of those in the past! Not sure what happened to them, but I had over 100 lbs of them originally. ~( ,m,)~
@MikkellTheImmortal4 жыл бұрын
Strangly enough, I just picked up some to remelt for fishing
@downyourtube3 жыл бұрын
In old homes the windows had lead bar counterweights hidden within the frame works. I wonder if there is any silver in them?
@sueyoung21153 жыл бұрын
Hush whisper, I once had a conversation with an old fellow who liked to metal detect old buildings. He told me that during the civil war, in the us, the plantation owners sometimes made "dore' " bars of their precious metal items to keep them from being stolen . They were cast into... Window weights! So, always check them.
@downyourtube3 жыл бұрын
@@sueyoung2115 I will and thank you. If I find anything You'll be hearing from me. Thanks!
@rhondav100 Жыл бұрын
Jason , great videos but how long did you leave the cupel in the fire??
@jwilliams83202 жыл бұрын
can you do a video on recovering lead from cupel?
@garymucher95904 жыл бұрын
I have to admit, I certainly didn't know there were precious trace metals in wheel weights. However, the amount you're getting is certainly not worth the effort. Especially if you factor in the energy used to heat the oven up. Could be break even or in the negative. But certainly interesting anyways. Thumbs Up!
@mbmmllc4 жыл бұрын
Oh its for sure a money loss exercise
@stephenfowler41153 жыл бұрын
Typical recovery of gold and silver from lead uses zinc. Zinc is insoluble in lead while precious metals are 3000 times more soluble in zinc than in lead. After mixing the zinc in molten lead it floats to the top and can be skimmed off.
@larrytischler5702 жыл бұрын
The remaining lead is not good for casting though according to the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook, it does not form out well.
@coreyfenn88562 жыл бұрын
every little bit adds up.
@arashiimoradii26904 жыл бұрын
Hello. How much flux to bury in thy soil ? for exumple how much carbonat does b kilos af soil and how much borax does it need plese expluin. It is very importuntto know plese
@shaneyork3004 жыл бұрын
I had no clue there was silver in lead wheel weights!! Have a GREAT Day!!!
@5roundsrapid2634 жыл бұрын
There are trace amounts of a lot of metals. Silver, tin, arsenic, etc.
@Gompiebert4 жыл бұрын
Nice video Jason
@chrisferrante9699 Жыл бұрын
How would you recover the lead from the cupel? Reusing the lead would be ideal for me.
@MrNigel13404 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video, thank you.
@mbmmllc4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@georgeabraham72563 ай бұрын
Has anyone tried the Betts proccess using electrolysis to purify lead from bullion? Id like to see a practical if it is possible on small scale and what you could expect from it.
@Drewsroofingandhomerepair3 жыл бұрын
Is the Q Paul able to be used more than one time
@mbmmllc3 жыл бұрын
Nope, just one time. Then they are waste
@josephbowdoin5514 Жыл бұрын
That's trippy
@sluggou812beotch10 ай бұрын
Those weights that were hard to cut were zinc. That's what junked your lead.
@gefginn36992 жыл бұрын
Very Very interesting
@oompaloompa72802 жыл бұрын
Will stainless steel oxidize and be absorbed by the Cupel or do you have to use another method to remove that metal? Electronics sometimes uses stainless steel pins that are gold plated.
@UnderDuress3 жыл бұрын
Great vid' question can the lead be retrieved from the cupel? And how much waste is produced?
@burnroe66113 жыл бұрын
You shoul do a 02 sensor recovery for pgms
@mackb.82622 жыл бұрын
So if you melt at different temps you can't pour out the different metals since they have different melting temps? I'm a noob and want to play with melting different metals as a hobby. Zinc lead tin melt at different temps for instance, if i melted wheel weights lead should pour out at 621f and leave the zinc untouched? zinc melts at 786f and silver 1640f so if you some how poured the lead and zinc out the silver wouldn't be left in the bottom?
@BrianStocking4 жыл бұрын
What is the structure you are standing in? Is that a greenhouse and who makes that? Thanks.
@atmm893 жыл бұрын
I have a question, if you melt gold with a welding torch at a very High temperature, will the gold evaporate??
@marcelgaddis93193 жыл бұрын
Silver does oxide, ag2o is silver oxide, just saying. ag2o the blackening on silver exposed to air or black silver dust is silver oxide.
@davidhaykus15683 жыл бұрын
Given the current ammo shortages, the wheel weight alloy is more desirable to resell to bullet casters or gun shops rather than the microscopic possibility of silver. Also, Zinc wheel weights should be left out since it ruins the alloy for casting.
@victorluc663 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!
@daniellong4153 жыл бұрын
Could you use this method using scrap carot gold to remove copper and zinc, then calculate the yeild of gold and silver remaining.
@inglwud56254 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much silver is in the lead sheets I recoverd from an old steam engine tractor, probably smelted 100 years ago.
@douglas7874 жыл бұрын
I have some buckets of number 2 copper that was cut from air conditioning coils. Mostly these are the 180 degree elbows that connect the copper tubes in the coil together. Most ac braising is done with 15 percent silver solder. Could the silver be recovered from the salvaged elbows? I just turn it in as number 2 copper.
@johnpepin53734 жыл бұрын
I looked through your videos and didn't see any about recovering silver from old keys? Have you made one or are you going to? Would this method work to oxidize off the base metals in keys to recover the silver?
@whatthefunction91403 жыл бұрын
Why does the cup absorb the oxide but not the molten metal? Is the end weight higher than the stating weight?
@wetstreamsprospecting27812 жыл бұрын
It's hard times, now everyone's about to have out of balance wheels 😄 hooray gas pumps Lol. Great video though. Daydreaming of buying MBMM equipment one day 👍
@shekharmoona5443 жыл бұрын
Do old electrical outlets really have silver? I tried to find a place to recycle and I felt so bad throwing them away.
@kennethkustren93814 жыл бұрын
Perhaps some REFRACTORY INVESTIGATIONS are worthy of a show. DIY SODIUM SILICATE.. Plaster of Paris / Gypsum / Fireclay... and Silica Sand ... should be a good start. Who doesn't need a trusty Firebrick Forge ??
@kennethkustren93814 жыл бұрын
Unless You have a local professional in-situ... We have provenances of truth in your words.
@abdallhfnalzntane18464 жыл бұрын
Mr , I want to ask you, does the black sand that you melt there contain iron or magnetic metal?
@doccarmouche95932 жыл бұрын
Where are you getting your cupels from?
@BrianStocking4 жыл бұрын
I've heard that wheel weights also have Tin in them. How would that effect your end result?
@cesgin25657 ай бұрын
What's laser thermometer you recommend for melting lead?
@doccarmouche95932 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried to recover silver from soldering rods with 15% silver??
@cditzler63134 жыл бұрын
can you recycle the cupels and if so do a vid on that
@nickford55493 жыл бұрын
Use silver as a collector metal. Easy to chemicaly refine that way
@jeffreybamford73653 жыл бұрын
Well bugger me I collect them to make sinkers so I've been throwing silver in the ocean for years now I wonder how much money I've thrown overboard all these years.
@Gex1214 жыл бұрын
Wow, i didn't know that lead oxide is corrosive? I thought lead is a very anti-corrosive metal. Will it be possible to recover the lead from the cupel?
@TheRussell7474 жыл бұрын
It confused me also so I looked it up and I cant find a single source that says it's corrosive. I'm actually finding the opposite every time; that it has good corrosion resistance. Also, yes it is possible. I havent watched it myself but some other comments said that he has a recent video on his channel about the process of recovering the lead. But they also summarized the process as: smash the lead-filled cupelle -> reheat -> lead remelts and sinks to bottom, smashed pieces float on top -> skim the top -> repeat until you've removed all the pieces you can
@Gex1214 жыл бұрын
@@TheRussell747 If i had to guess, that's exactly how i would do it also. Thank you for replying.
@jackrodgersjr4 жыл бұрын
Quite interesting. 1.50 in electricity and an hour of time plus a few hundred for furnace and other stuff to get $0.003 in silver. Sounds like a government funded project. Kidding. Enjoyed it as I didn’t know anything about smelting.
@mbmmllc4 жыл бұрын
Haha, glad you enjoyed it
@Slightquills2 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to recover the lead from the cupel?
@thejll3 жыл бұрын
Does the power cut off automatically in that furnace, when the door opens - or are those coils live?
@KK-xz4rk3 жыл бұрын
Those are live. You cannot cupell in a furnace that does not allow you open the door by cutting power. You just be mindful that those wires are live (not full power tho because they have really high resistance) and work with caution. You cannot be safety freak when working with hot metal and oxides. It is for professional use not home grade electronics.
@scmafia7515 Жыл бұрын
Wow so 18,000,000 lbs will make a silver ring. 😅😅😅
@TheEcofarmer3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a metal shredder manufacturer you reccommend?